Late Night Open Thread: It’s All Fun & Games, Until Someone Shoots Up A Baseball Game

Looking on the bright side, if Ted ‘Pantload’ Nugent is edging away from “hateful rhetoric”, that’s one more indicator that the right-wing media fevers may have reached a point where, having burned through all susceptible victims, it’s no longer profitable for a D-lister like Nugent to make a noisy public display of his ammosexuality.

But you can count on the lower ranks of wingnut welfare recipients to keep singing from the same old hymnbook…

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    Odd that the Nuge is being less of an asshat than Jenner, given that the latter at least has/recently had some of a career.

    But in brighter news across the Atlantic

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    NotMax says:

    Prefer to grab a muscat.

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    Heywood J. says:

    I thought Walsh had to pawn his musket to pay up his back child support.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Wait a minute. Which Joe Walsh was this again?

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    Suzanne says:

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Jenner is in the running for The Worst.

    I got embroiled in a debate with a jackass contractor I work with about being transgender, and he just looooooved bringing up Caitlyn Jenner. It made me feel gross to defend her, as I think she’s awful and I wish she would go away. I wholeheartedly support her right to identify however she chooses, but everything and everyone in the Kardashian orbit is awful.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Amir Khalid: The one who never had a Maserati that could do 185.

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    While heaven knows we have a plague of violent rhetoric specifically of the kind to incite extremist action, I’m pretty confident ‘grab your musket’ is metaphorical, and not even metaphorical for grabbing a different kind of gun. If he meant violence, even a violent fantasy, he wouldn’t have used such a goofy, antiquated weapon!

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    efgoldman says:

    So the saga continues…
    Some of you may remember that mrs efg’s sister was shot and killed by her murdering bastard of a POSSLQ. He has been held without bail in VT since February 2016.
    You might also recall that the DA told us in May that they are offering a plea bargain: plead to murder 2, 25 years in state prison. Since the case really is a slam dunk, we assumed he and his lawyer would take it.
    However, his harridan of a mother is the one paying for the attorney. She has always run his life even when they lived hundreds of miles apart. So he has demanded a jury trial. Pretrial conference is July 19, Jury selection begins July 29.
    Now, in the intervening months, we have found more details.
    When it happened, he called his mother FIRST, then called 911. The medical examiner reports that she was shot once, in the upper lung. If the asshole had called 911 first, she likely would have survived. By the time he did, she bled out.
    Now, it’s always possible that a jury won’t convict. Parts of Vermont are a gun humper state.
    BUT: If they acquit, Federal marshalls will be waiting for him in the courtroom. The US attorney has filed a number of weapons charges, the most serious of which is they found a .45 caliber submachine gun – an actual, full automatic Tommy gun, in working order – when they searched the house. The serial number was filed, which is a major charge. Illegal possession, illegal transportation across state lines, illegal purchase – and that’s just for the one weapon. Other modified and filed weapons found too.
    If anything, the federal charges are more of a slam dunk than the state charges. The bastard is going to spend most or all of the rest of his miserable life in prison.
    Wish his mother could go on trial, too. Doesn’t work that way.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: A shotgun that broke at the breach would be more effective. Then again, Walsh is a moron.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Then again, Walsh is a moron.

    Is he really that smart?

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    @Suzanne: Kim at least seems rather shrewd (although I refuse to watch her stuff on principle), but didn’t Kanye’s artistic backsliding up his own ass (more than it already was, anyway) start around the same time he got romantically involved with her?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @efgoldman: Good point.

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    Chris T. says:

    Looking on the bright side, if Ted ‘Pantload’ Nugent is edging away from “hateful rhetoric”, that’s one more indicator that the right-wing media fevers may have reached a point where, having burned through all susceptible victims, it’s no longer profitable for a D-lister like Nugent to make a noisy public display of his ammosexuality.

    No, it just means that the president is no longer black.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @efgoldman:

    The US attorney has filed a number of weapons charges, the most serious of which is they found a .45 caliber submachine gun – an actual, full automatic Tommy gun, in working order – when they searched the house. The serial number was filed, which is a major charge. Illegal possession, illegal transportation across state lines, illegal purchase – and that’s just for the one weapon. Other modified and filed weapons found too.

    Thank goodness for the gun-grabbers, then. Holding Mrs. EFG (and you, of course!) in the light, as the Quakers say…

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    Chris T. says:

    I think my comment got eated. (Perhaps it was a tasty cookie.)

    Anyway, I think the only reason some of the wingnuts are toning things down is that the president is white (well, underneath all that orange anyway) and male.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    It’s all fun and games until someone attempts to impose a “Second Amendment Solution” on some GOP congresscritters who have voted to remove health insurance coverage from millions of Americans.

    Then it’s beyond the pale.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Chris T.:

    the president is white (well, underneath all that orange anyway) and male.

    And the fantasy wet dream of every mouth-breathing, knuckle dragging, racist RWNJ voter.

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    Suzanne says:

    @efgoldman: Good. Glad to hear that he’s going down, one way or another. I am all for letting nonviolent drug offenders out to make lots of room for fuckers like this guy. They can rot.

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Yeah, not to be all Yoko about the whole thing, but it really does seem like getting together with Kim coincided with a significant downward artistic slide. It’s too bad. He’s very talented.

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    piratedan says:

    if the latest anti-Oddoff ad is any indication, it really doesn’t matter what the left does, it’s certain to scare the ever-lovin shit out of any Republican, be it from buying guns and shooting them or taxing rich people to pay for shit that needs to get done. It’s alll volume up to 11, life will end as you know it time.

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    efgoldman says:

    @piratedan:

    It’s alll volume up to 11, life will end as you know it time.

    I’m not there, and don’t see the commercials. Are Ossoff and the Dems attaching Orange Orangutan to Handel’s ass with superglue, and if not, why not?

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    rikyrah says:

    @efgoldman:
    Sorry to hear about the trial. Was hoping that your family could find resolution already.

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    Woodrowfan says:

    @efgoldman: hope they nail him to the wall.

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    @efgoldman: FFS. I’m so sorry this evil woman is dragging this out.

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    efgoldman says:

    @rikyrah:

    Was hoping that your family could find resolution already

    mrs efg will have some emotional upset, but will be OK. Their 86-year-old mother? Not so sure. She and mrs efg were going to go up for the plea and sentencing. One day and back home. For a trial? I’m not sure we can afford hotel rooms, in Vermont, in the summer, for as long as it takes. The state’s victim’s advocacy office does reimburse, but because it’s government, it’s awfully slow.

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    @Omnes Omnibus: But the one that did lost his license and now he can’t drive, though he has a limo and rides in the back.

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    cs says:

    Anyway, I think the only reason some of the wingnuts are toning things down is that the president is white

    It’s because they’re cowards. They suddenly got a reminder that a civil war means people on their side will die too. Those idiots thought the shootings and beatings would be inflicted by their side only. Scalise, and to a lesser extent Spencer’s punching + “bash the fash”, was a huge wake up call to people like Nugent. He clearly saw himself becoming a target after all the shit he’s said. He did what Republicans always do when they finally have to face the consequences of pretending they’re badasses.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Suzanne:

    it really does seem like getting together with Kim coincided with a significant downward artistic slide.

    But did Kanye lose his grip because he got together with Kim, or was getting together with Kim an indicator he was beginning to lose his grip?

    (Not that I know much about either of those two, but I’ve known many people, some of them family members, whose acquaintances could predict they were starting another manic episode / psychological ‘spiral’ when they took up with *yet another* out-of-context love interest… )

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    Redshift says:

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    If he meant violence, even a violent fantasy, he wouldn’t have used such a goofy, antiquated weapon!

    He’s invoking an antiquated weapon because he wants his mouth-breathing audience to think of themselves as the equal of the Founders, and specifically the violent revolution part, not the arguing for the rights of man part. I think you’re giving him too much credit, though he certainly has plausible deniability on that.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    But did Kanye lose his grip because he got together with Kim, or was getting together with Kim an indicator he was beginning to lose his grip?

    I was going to say that, too. Most people say that his slide actually started when his mother died unexpectedly, because he was very close to her.

    I can’t remember if it was just a rumor or confirmed, but I remember hearing that he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. Whatever his issue was, it was very serious — they don’t admit you to UCLA Neuropsychiatric for “dehydration and exhaustion,” or whatever the current PR-speak is.

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    Anonymous patient says:

    ArchTerix, who’s nym I am probably mangling the speling of (sic) made what I think is the best point about the Senate’s super secret health care bill passage (or not).

    It will, as described, be a genocidal crime, deliberately composed to kill people of a specific variety, by the millions, of various horrible deaths. From mundane illnesses like a heart attack, or untreated diabetes resulting in slow death by amputation of your extremities, to more exquisite deaths by Crohn’s Disease, or glioblastoma or cancer that could have been treated if diagnosed, but without health care can’t even be treated.

    And the people who die. slowly, miserably, will be people who tend to vote Democratic more often than not. People not at the top income brackets, people who didn’t vote for Major Trumpet. People who are darker in complexion or more recently arrived to US citizenship, people not like those voting for the bill.

    People like the people who were sent to camps from 1938 to 1945 in Europe, to die faster than the people who will die in the near future. A Republican genocide, rather than a German Nazi genocide. Taking health care away from a carefully designed segment of a population, isn’t that like racially based gerrymandering, kind of? Let those people die, inexpensively, they don’t vote for us anyway.

    Now I’m beginning to believe the real crime may be allowing this travesty of politics to continue, rather than attacking the criminals before they can complete their crime.

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    Suzanne says:

    @Anne Laurie: I have no idea if the relationship with him and Kim and his artistic decline is correlative or causative. I just don’t like celebrity, but I like his music, at least when it was good. I’ve seen Kanye perform live and he is undeniably one of the biggest talents of the last decade or so. I want him to get back to that, and I want all things Kardashian to go away.

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    JR in WV says:

    @cs:

    This, I think they realized that there are actually liberals who will fight back. And many of the most verbal SOBs are also the biggest bullies, and the secret cowards. Like CatScratch Fever Nugent, the one hit wonder from Detroit.

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    Aleta says:

    @efgoldman: I’m sorry for this nightmare in your lives, and I’m glad very very glad the sentence will likely be much longer.

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    @Anne Laurie: Maybe an accelerant?

    Artistically speaking, Cruel Summer was OK if a bit of a misstep, and while I found Yeezus good deal more obnoxious I can definitely see why people would like it (and “Bound 2” was one of the better songs). The Life of Pablo is incredibly douchey and Kim owning Taylor Swift aside 2016 saw Kanye-Leste thoroughly beshiznit himself.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Anonymous patient:

    Let those people die, inexpensively, they don’t vote for us anyway.

    Except: huge numbers of those on subsidized Medicaid are, in fact, the unemployed WWC, never to work again, and their families. They’re on multiple kinds of benefits, many of which the RWNJs are also trying to cut or eliminate. Yes, poor minorities in blue states will suffer, but so will millions of rural, racist, ignorant white people – the people that waste their votes on RWNJ assholes.

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    Inventor says:

    It never occurred to Nugent, Scalise, or any other right-wing gun fetishist that they themselves may become targets.
    Nor did it occur to many liberals (self included) that a left-wing gun fetishist would turn terrorist and target right-wing pols.

    We as a nation better find a way back from the brink.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @cs:

    He clearly saw himself becoming a target after all the shit he’s said. He did what Republicans always do when they finally have to face the consequences of pretending they’re badasses.

    A parable about horses and open barns comes to mind.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Inventor:

    Nor did it occur to many liberals (self included) that a left-wing gun fetishist would turn terrorist and target right-wing pols.

    We as a nation better find a way back from the brink.

    You better sit down and have a lot of drinks.

    Or borrow a page from the Doctor and rip out that last page of this story.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    It’s all fun and games until someone attempts to impose a “Second Amendment Solution” on some GOP congresscritters who have voted to remove health insurance coverage from millions of Americans.

    Then its just funny. Joker style.

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    Aleta says:

    Oh come on (Bloomberg)

    Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump’s senior adviser and son-in-law, will travel to the Middle East this week to push for a peace deal between the Israelis and the Palestinians, according to a White House official.

    Kushner plans to travel to Israel on Wednesday for meetings with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Jerusalem. He will also meet with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah, according to the official, who requested anonymity to discuss Kushner’s plans.

    The trip comes as Kushner was said to be considering hiring criminal defense lawyers to represent him in a widening federal probe into Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election, the New York Times reported on Sunday. Kushner’s meetings with Russian officials and business executives have come under scrutiny as the investigation has probed links between the Trump campaign and the Russians.

    The visit to the Middle East will be Kushner’s third since Trump was elected. It serves as a follow-up to the president’s visit to Jerusalem and Bethlehem in May, when he called on Israelis and Palestinians to pursue a peace deal. Kushner, 36, also visited Iraq in April.

    The White House official said Kushner’s visit is likely to be one of many trips before significant progress is made toward a peace deal. Jason Greenblatt, the White House special representative for international negotiations, will arrive in the region Monday, according to the official. The two will work behind the scenes to advance direct talks between the parties, the official said.

    Oh, the two will work together behind the scenes? And might Kushner conclude that peace in the M E will require staying abroad for a long long time? Because clearly his brilliant and sacred work to end war is more important than any contribution he might offer to the investigation. I hope we learn that he received important secret briefings at Camp David this weekend and pulled Anwar Sadat’s sword out of the stone that Menachem Begin wrote his name on.

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    Hkedi [Kang T. Q.] says:

    Sorry to sound cynical, but unless his trend for not inciting political violence continues after Republicans lose a house in the legislature, or the Presidency, I’m not assuming it’s anything but tactical for two reasons.

    First and foremost, right wing republicans lie. They also lie twice as hard to anyone who is not their tribe. Currently I see this as a tactical move to de-legitimize the anger of anyone not their tribe.

    Second, forgiving too soon often leads to enabling bad behavior in adults. I’ve discovered through brutal personal experience that with people who push boundaries forgiving too soon is a bad idea. They take it as a sign that the boundary was not really that big a deal and that’s it’s a reasonable risk to go for the next one. If they really want forgiveness they are going to have to pay some serious dues to get back in my good graces.

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    PIGL says:

    @efgoldman: it may be the most justice we could hope for….that at least some of the guilty suffer along with the innocent. Just this once.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @efgoldman:

    Ugh. I’m sorry that you and Mrs. efg and her mom are going to have to deal with this. I suspect that, at this point, it’s not so much the trial itself that’s going to be stressful, it’s that you thought it was over and now it’s going to drag on.

    I hope mrs. efg and her mom are mentally prepared to have their loved one dragged through the mud at the trial. Unless his lawyer tries to go for a claim that it was an accident, the only other rational defense would probably be to claim that your sister in law was the abuser, and the guy’s mom seems like a big enough asshole to push for that defense if it might save her murderous babykins from prison.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Suzanne:

    I think a comment of mine about Kanye vanished. Weird.

    Anyway, most of what I’ve read from fine media outlets like Us magazine is that Kanye’s mom was the one who kept him in check and directed his career, so when she died, he was rudderless and got hooked by the Kardashians.

    I also remember hearing a rumor that he has bipolar disorder, but I don’t know if he’s ever confirmed it. He was admitted to UCLA Neuropsychiatric last year, which locals here can tell you is a lock-down psychiatric ward that they only send you to if you’re seriously ill. My friend’s husband was a nurse there until he went into the less depressing field of cardiac ICU.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Aleta:

    Kushner plans to travel to Israel on Wednesday for meetings with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Jerusalem. He will also meet with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah, according to the official, who requested anonymity to discuss Kushner’s plans.

    They’ll be at war again by Labor Day.

    Everything these idiots touch turns to shit.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Hkedi [Kang T. Q.]:

    First and foremost, right wing republicans lie. They also lie twice as hard to anyone who is not their tribe. Currently I see this as a tactical move to de-legitimize the anger of anyone not their tribe.

    You’re not alone.

    This is classic IOIYAR.

    Next rightwinger with a gun is going to get the “Evil Liberals did it first” excuse/defense from the right.

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    TenguPhule says:

    Man. even being +2 isn’t really helping tonight.

    Trying to stay positive is exhausting.

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    Hkedi [Kang T. Q.] says:

    @TenguPhule: Here, have a photo of a refrigerator full of fresh mangoes and beer. hope it makes you feel better.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Aleta:
    Middle East diplomacy is obviously not something to be left to a tyro like Jared Kushner. People there will be polite to him, but they are not going to take seriously any promises from him. Indeed, they would be unwise to take seriously promises from any emissary of the Trump administration’s — including President Trump himself.

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    @TenguPhule:

    Man. even being +2 isn’t really helping tonight.

    Trying to stay positive is exhausting.

    Being +2 might be part of the problem.

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    The kid took me out for Lawry’s for Father’s Day, wonderful meal.

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    janelle says:

    I legitimately hope Joe Walsh gets cancer and dies.

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    EBT says:

    I am feeling very pessimistic about the Ossoff, Handel election.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    People there will be polite to him, but they are not going to take seriously any promises from him.

    You’re assuming Jared’s actually gonna meet any of those “officials” in the first place. My first bet would be that he’ll do a few press opportunities, possibly with a mid-level Israeli diplomat or two, and announce another Major Study Group.

    My backup bet is that he’s frantically trying to get some back-channel assurance that he and Ivanka will be allow to use their Right of Return, if/when the various Russiagate investigations get too close to Kushner’s own various ‘improprieties’.

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    Origuy says:

    I may have missed mention of this earlier; another police shooting, this time in Seattle.

    A 30-year-old woman is dead after suffering a gunshot wounds to the chest and abdomen. The incident took place at 6800 62nd Street near Magnuson Park in Seattle Sunday morning.

    The victim’s family is now demanding answers.

    She was pregnant, had mental issues, holding a knife, and known to police. Her name was Charleena Lyles.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @Chris T.: The only reason Nugent and ilk are “moderating” is that the president is Republican. A White male Democratic President would still be subject to abuse. They still hate President Clinton.

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    Sloane Ranger says:

    I don’t know if it’s been mentioned before but there was another terrorist attack in London last night. A man mowed down worshippers leaving Finsbury Park Mosque. One dead and several injured. The driver was held by passers by until police arrived.

    Witnesses report that when asked why he had done it he replied that he wanted to kill Muslims.

    There are reports that other occupants of the car fled the scene but these are unverified. Teresa May to hold COBRA meeting re attack.

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    TenguPhule says:

    Finally, some humor from the other side of the world.

    A thing of beauty,

    Since 8 June’s Ragnarök, the Conservative party has resembled not so much a dog returning to its own vomit as a dog returning to its own vomit, putting on a nice dinner suit and tucking into its own vomit with the finest silver cutlery, as if its own vomit were in fact a delicious treat it would choose to eat willingly, over and over again, even if had it the option of consuming the finest Pedigree Chum instead.

    Waking up at the weekend, it appeared to my blurred eye that the Conservatives were about to enter an arrangement with the Plague Monks, the parade-loving, rat-faced death-cultists from my 10-year-old’s Warhammer game.

    “Driven into battle by their frenzied faith, the Plague Monks of Clan Pestilens are a repulsive tidal wave of filth… each model can be built as a Bringer-of-the-Word, clutching a Book of Woe, an Icon Bearer with a Contagion Banner or as a Plague Harbinger carrying a Doom Gong.”

    But the Tories’ proposed partners were in fact the Democratic Unionists, doom gongs in hand, who appear to be lead by the Gruffalo from the popular children’s book of the same name.

    Why can’t we have political commentary of this caliber over here?

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    Gator90 says:

    @Hkedi [Kang T. Q.]:

    Democrat: If this healthcare bill is enacted, millions of Americans will lose their health insurance.

    Republican: That is exactly the kind of hateful, uncivil left-wing rhetoric that led to the shooting of Steve Scalise! SHAAAAAAAAAAAME!!!

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    Kathleen says:

    @efgoldman: So sorry you, your wife and her family have. to continue to deal with this.

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    gene108 says:

    @Chris T.:

    Anyway, I think the only reason some of the wingnuts are toning things down is that the president is white (well, underneath all that orange anyway) and male.

    Actually, it is because he is a Republican. All those militias that were running around in the 1990’s got very quiet after Bush, Jr took office.

    Replacing the black guy is just another reason to tone it down a couple of notches.

    I do not expect it to last.

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    Hkedi [Kang T. Q.] says:

    @Gator90: hence the not believing them until they lose some power due to their utter idiocy and f***ery, and not spouting off like the rabid weasels that they have been over MY ENTIRE F***ING LIFETIME…

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    @efgoldman:

    Sorry the ordeal continues.

    But what is an SLQ? (I get the POS part.)

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    rikyrah says:

    @Anne Laurie:
    He has not been the same since his mother died.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Sloane Ranger: the victims were Muslim …So it’s not a terrorist attack, didn’t ya know?

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Steeplejack (phone): Not this time, true though it is. But the Census definition: Person of Opposite Sex Sharing Living Quarters.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @TenguPhule:

    [. . .] who appear to be lead led by the Gruffalo [. . .].

    Why can’t we have some copyediting up in here? I know that copyediting has been mostly budgeted out to the point of near extinction, but this is the fucking Guardian, a major national newspaper. It has long been famous for its typos, but not for grammatical own goals.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    Okay, didn’t see that coming.

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    AxelFoley says:

    @Hkedi [Kang T. Q.]:

    Sorry to sound cynical, but unless his trend for not inciting political violence continues after Republicans lose a house in the legislature, or the Presidency, I’m not assuming it’s anything but tactical for two reasons.

    First and foremost, right wing republicans lie. They also lie twice as hard to anyone who is not their tribe. Currently I see this as a tactical move to de-legitimize the anger of anyone not their tribe.

    Second, forgiving too soon often leads to enabling bad behavior in adults. I’ve discovered through brutal personal experience that with people who push boundaries forgiving too soon is a bad idea. They take it as a sign that the boundary was not really that big a deal and that’s it’s a reasonable risk to go for the next one. If they really want forgiveness they are going to have to pay some serious dues to get back in my good graces.

    100% agreement.

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    aimai says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: I’m pretty sure “grab your musket” is a euphemism for something naughty.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Steeplejack: I only remember it because there was so much agitation, back in the 1980s, about picking the “correct” euphemism for a couple living together, not blood kin, who weren’t married or even pretending to be in the process of preparing for marriage. The unwieldy POSSLQ acronym was a compromise — no indication that the persons of opposite sex might have reasons to be sharing living quarters beyond thriftiness or a local housing shortage. And (IIRC) it put off the terrifying prospect of having to describe Persons of SAME Sex Sharing Living Quarters as — well, you know — for at least one more census cycle!

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    aimai says:

    @efgoldman: How utterly horrifying. I am just so sorry, ef. I can’t imagine the pain Mrs. ef is going through having to relive these terrible details.

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    Haroldo says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: But life’s been bad

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Steeplejack:
    @Anne Laurie:

    I think I first heard the term — certainly retained it — via Charles Osgood’s wonderful poem:

    My POSSLQ

    Come live with me and be my love,
    And we will some new pleasures prove
    Of golden sands and crystal brooks
    With silken lines, and silver hooks.
    There’s nothing that I wouldn’t do
    If you would be my POSSLQ.

    You live with me, and I with you,
    And you will be my POSSLQ.
    I’ll be your friend and so much more;
    That’s what a POSSLQ is for.

    And everything we will confess;
    Yes, even to the IRS.
    Some day on what we both may earn,
    Perhaps we’ll file a joint return.
    You’ll share my pad, my taxes, joint;
    You’ll share my life – up to a point!
    And that you’ll be so glad to do,
    Because you’ll be my POSSLQ.

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    Blueskies says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: And I think you travel in elite circles. The folks I deal with (not out of choice) — people of the land, the common clay of the new West– you know…morons — THEY are being told by this GOP dingleberry that we’re in the new civil war and that it’s time to get a gun and shoot someone.

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    Jack the Second says:

    @Steeplejack: I wonder if you had a third party news aggregator that copy-edited and fact-checkers articles, but published them in full, if you could pass that off as fair use, I don’t know, satire.

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    @efgoldman: I’m sorry this is going to trial. You all didn’t need to have this dragged out. Thank goodness it sounds like the killer will not go free no matter what happens.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @efgoldman: Best to you and Mrs. efg and Mother in law efg. Sorry to hear you are getting dragged through an extended trial that could have been prevented, and hope that justice will prevail. It’s reassuring that federal charges await in event he gets off (too lightly, even) on the murder. Very sad situation.

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    Blueskies says:

    @efgoldman: Of course not. They’re Democrats. Every fucking one of them runs like they’re Al Franken running in blue Minnesota. And even HE barely beat Coleman.

    Here’s some free advice, in case any Democratic party bigwigs/sycophants read this blog:

    In a very red district in a red state, you run someone like Tester. He needs to look like Tester and he needs to talk like Tester. Ideally, he has a similar background as Tester.

    I’ve got nothing against Ossoff, but like Hillary, he is a terrible campaigner and candidate. Unless the Democrats suddenly wake up and start running adds that are effective for THAT district, I think he’s going to lose badly, way outside polling. Worse, I predict that the national Democrats will learn absolutely ZERO about the loss.

    I hope I am wrong, wrong, wrong.

    But I’m not.

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    jake the antisoshul soshulist says:

    @Origuy:
    Fetal murder? Might get the shooter on that. More likely, that had the woman survived,she would have been charged with child endangerment

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    Yoda Dog says:

    @Blueskies: It’s too early for a take this shitty.

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    Blueskies says:

    Yeah, the first cup hasn’t kicked in. Sorry ’bout that.

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    sdhays says:

    If Joe Walsh is willing to agree with me that the (alleged) all encompassing right to bear arms applies solely to muskets available at the time of the signing of the 2nd Amendment, we may have just solved the gun crisis…

    Strict Constructionalism for the win!

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    Steeplejack says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Funny! Even though “POSSLQ” doesn’t scan quite right and jangles a little bit. (I keep wanting to throw out the L when reading that poem.)

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    Jack the Second says:

    @Steeplejack: The also rhyme “love” and “prove”.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Jack the Second:

    Looking for the slant-rhyme waiver.

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    Noncarborundum says:

    @Steeplejack: it scans if you pronounce POSSLQ as Osgood did when reciting the poem: possle-kew.

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    Noncarborundum says:

    @Jack the Second: it’s a take-off of a poem by Marlowe, which (IIRC) was written when “love” and “prove” did rhyme.

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    wuzzat says:

    @Jack the Second: You’ll need to blame the 16th century poet whose work Osgood is parodying for that one.

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    wuzzat says:

    @Noncarborundum: Ah yes, “The Passionate Shepherd to His Lover,” aka “The Passionate Shepherd to his Sheep” to students who have tired of reading Elizabethan poetry.

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    Mr. Prosser says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: He’s going on tour, probably worried he’ll be the next target.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Jack the Second:

    There’s been an interesting movement lately among Shakespearean actors to point out that modern accents (even the fancy ones most Shakespearean actors use) are quite different than the accent of Shakespeare’s time, which they refer to as Original Pronounciation.

    When you read the lines aloud in the OP accent, suddenly words that don’t rhyme in our modern accents rhyme perfectly, and puns reveal themselves (especially dirty ones). That’s just one video about it, but there are a ton more.

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    @Mnemosyne: I recall reading somewhere that some English accents sounded rather close to Appalachian; is that true?

    “We all sound like Bill Clinton and Miley Cyrus!”

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    Stan says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Middle East diplomacy is obviously not something to be left to a tyro like Jared Kushner. People there will be polite to him, but they are not going to take seriously any promises from him. Indeed, they would be unwise to take seriously promises from any emissary of the Trump administration’s — including President Trump himself.

    Um, don’t fall for the con. This isn’t about achieving anything. This is about distraction and maybe, just maybe, making jared look like he has an important job. That’s all.

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    GOVCHRIS1988 says:

    @Blueskies:

    Um, I actually live in this state near his district and word on the street here is that John Ossoff is scaring the ever living shit out of our good ol boy Republicans here. For someone thats such a bad campaigner as you put it, he’s either dead even or pulling away from Georgia’s former Secretary of State. The fact that the GOP is gloating about the shooting and running shameless ads trying to tie Ossoff to the Alexandria shooting tells me the GOP here doesn’t think they are sitting as pretty as they once were. Lets remember, this district has been a GOP district since Richard Nixon was in office, so for a 30 year old to be in this position in this state is nothing short of a miracle.

    I’ll also say that this is probably the first time we’ve seen a seat anywhere not in a majority black district that has been put in play in a long while. Guys like Roy Barnes, Jim Martin, Mark Taylor and the infamous Zell Miller would of course be considered Republicans in states like Minnesota, so I don’t know where “running like Al Franken” came from. Those were true blue conservative Democrats, and the first three all lost elections by a range of 10 to 15 points. I don’t know why you’re so cynical about if Jon Ossoff loses, because even if he does, the Democrats in this state probably can learn a couple of things from it. If we can do this in an off year election, then we can do this next year.

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    Rasputin's Evil Twin says:

    @Anne Laurie: My brother and I are well-versed in this sort of thing. It’s what you laymen call a “Pact with the Devil”. Our only question is if Kim or her mother worked as the broker. We suspect it’s Kris.

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