Late Night Open Thread — Christ: What An A**hole

Maybe Erick Infinite Ericks is just envious of the “Dumbest Man on the Internet” title. At least he took the ‘studying for my preacher license’ line out of his bio, because it seems like he’s never actually read the New Testament. Where’s a [Jesus: facepalm] GIF when you need one?…

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    lamh36 says:

    Hilary…ma’am…where do we send internet winning for today!!!

    People in covfefe houses shouldn’t throw covfefe.

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    Mike in NC says:

    Now I’m picturing a movie in which Ron Perlman strangles Donald Trump. Sad!

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    This country has depressingly many shitbags. But while this is true, we shouldn’t make more of this than we need to. Every country has had these people. We have, too. They almost trashed the country 150 years ago. As awful as they are, there are more of us than there are of them.

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    smintheus says:

    Anti-intellectualism has been a powerful force in American politics and culture for a long time. It would be elitist of me to specify how long.

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    Abhorrence of logic and science and embrace of religious intolerance is the hallmark of a polity in trouble. I have seen it time and again in India’s history. Late Deccan sultanates, Marathas after the death of Nana Phadnavis, Mughal Empire in Aurangzeb’s fading years.
    Confident people/polities don’t need to belittle others to feel good about themselves.
    We should not let the Rs speak for all of us.

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    jl says:

    Erik can do his part. He can cuddle little bunnies and puppies with his loving, but strong, manly Christian patriarch grip.
    End result might be the same, though.

    C’mon George, lemme pet ’em, lemme pet ’em.

    Edit: Erik should get an award for emitting a stupid and offensively absurd tweet.

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    dm says:

    In other news, I see that Richard Hofstadter’s 1964 classic, Anti-intellectualism in American Life was released on audiobook last month. How timely.

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    Rothkopf quote is so coldly accurate it has frost forming around it.

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    Gravenstone says:

    To be fair to Eric bin Eric, Mother Earth will continue on along just fine* even after she’s made the ecosystem untenable for human occupancy.

    *At least until the sun gets into its later years and first boils the place dry before burning it to a cinder in a few billion years.

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    Gravenstone says:

    @Mike in NC: Maybe with Kathy Griffin in the background next to a guillotine, just waiting to release the blade?

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    jl says:

    @Gravenstone: Maybe Jesus loves waterbears and archeobacteria too. Give them a chance. Anyone think about that? Huh?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    I don’t know who NYCSoutpaw is, but I see her/him retweeted a lot, and I think this one is dead-on. The R’s want to beat up on Susan Rice and have a “What about…?” talking point for Chuck Todd, but they could just wind up making things worse for trump and Jared

    southpaw‏ @ nycsouthpaw 5h5 hours ago
    The “unmasking” inquiry is at least as likely to inadvertently blow up some member of the Trump team as to injure a former Obama official.

    and one of the things I’m seeing battered around the tubes is a clip from a cameo appearance JaVanka made on Gossip Girl, which I gather was an adolescent version of Dynasty set in NYC, just the sort of thing trumps would find glamorous and sophisticated. It makes me think of what his former Observer editor said about people who say he doesn’t do TV cause he’s modest: A trust fund baby who buys a newspaper and marries Ivanka trump is not someone who shuns the limelight. He just wants to control his image in a very, very specific way.

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    Karmus says:

    Words mean what I want them to mean. That way I can call myself a Christian while still maintaining my selfish lifestyle.

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    different-church-lady says:

    Jesus wept…

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    Wapiti says:

    I was quite the little bible-quote finding kid, when I was a kid. I seriously can think of no tale from the gospels in which Jesus calls on us to be good stewards of the planet. (I’m pretty sure such admonishment comes in the old testament, before Jesus enters stage left.)

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    @different-church-lady: Indeed and said God forgive them for they know not what they are doing (or saying).

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    @Mike in NC: Whenever I read X-Men comics, I always hear either Ron Perlman or Ian Mckellen’s voice as Magneto. (And Ron Perlman as the definitive Deathstroke for the DC Universe).

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Logan Dobson‏ @ LoganDobson 8h8 hours ago
    I’d like to think someone just woke up from a 15-year coma and the first thing they saw was this tweet
    NEW YORK (AP) – CNN has cut ties with Kathy Griffin after video depicting her holding President Donald Trump’s severed head.

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    lamh36 says:

    @Mike in NC: The only movie role I want to picture Ron Pearlman in, is a final Hellboy film!!!!

    Yes…I’m a Hellboy -stan…lol

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    Just finished Al Franken, Giant of the Senate*, I thought you were talking about Ted Cruz.

    *If you read Al’s book, make sure you read the footnotes/endnotes, that’s where the good stuff is.

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    Here’s another classic from Erick-Woods today, at his web-log The Resentment:

    Hugh Hewitt is has [sic] now expanded his portfolio beyond syndicated radio. He has both a show at MSNBC and a column at the Washington Post. At the Post, he has a new column up in which he claims everyone would be okay with a gas tax increase.


    According to Hugh:

    Trump can sell a gas tax hike that does these things because it makes sense and because all drivers will pay it. A “rebuild the fleet” tax would have deep appeal even to those patriots who might otherwise reject raising any federal tax but who understand how damaging the Obama-era sequester has been to the ability of the United States to answer the calls upon it.

    And, yes, it should be easy to do — if ideologues of both left and right are pushed aside for the common good. The corporate tax rate has to come down. The fleet has to expand. And everyone who drives anywhere in the United States knows that roads and bridges must be repaired, just as anyone who flies knows that some airports need work done yesterday.

    I think the gas tax, on a daily basis, affects President Trump’s blue collar voters more than most. They have larger families, larger cars, and pick up trucks. They fill up with gas more than once a week. They are not driving a Prius or a Tesla. And I don’t think they’d consider themselves “ideologues.”

    And that’s the thing. The people most likely to pay this tax would be Trump’s voters. Rich coastal liberals have electric cars and drivers. College professors have their tiny smart cars and Priuses. One of the environmentalist left’s pushes has been for ever smaller cars as a direct incentive to produce fewer children.

    It’s Trump’s voters who have the large families and the large vehicles. If you raise the gas tax like Hugh wants, you hurt them more than most. I think “everyone” can only be considered people in Washington and people who get picked up in black cars a lot.

    The top three vehicles in America are the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado, and the Dodge Ram. The people who own those vehicles more likely than not would be surprised to learn that they would support a gas tax increase.

    He’s certainly giving Hoft a run for his money.

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    lollipopguild says:

    Many of these folks believe that God is going to destroy planet earth anyway so why not give God a hand? The true believers will go to Heaven to be with their God so the faster they ruin the earth the sooner they will be in Heaven. A lot of these type of folks voted for Reagan because they thought that the second Reagan became President he would start a war with Russia that would send them all to Heaven. These are people who never learn anything or they learn the wrong lesson.

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    jl says:

    One sliver of hope is that Trump and his flunkies have decided to stand up for what they really believe in, and I think the vast majority in the US will want to vomit in disgust. And, as I think Shakespeare wrote in Lear, ‘filths savor only their own. Malicious fools will reveal their true colors. This imbecilic tweet by EE is an example: Basically, saying, yeah right whatever, For the dogmatic, God in Genesis instructs humankind to take care of the earth, explicitly identified as His creation Iand He did not create it as a shake and bake toy oven for greedy corporate assholes to play with, I don’t remember reading that in Gensis) But that don’t mean Erick has to ‘care about it’.

    Implicitly EE equates caring (at all) about the fate of the planet, as anything like God’s creation, with pantheistic paganism.

    EE didn’t say, ‘not give it top priority’, or anything like that. He said he doesn’t have to ‘care about’ it.
    Does EE understand how offensively stupid and callous he is? Even a child can explain it. (Edit: but probably no one can explain it to the likes of EE)

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    rikyrah says:

    Sean Spicer Storms Out of Briefing Again
    May 31, 2017

    CNN: “For two days in a row, since returning from President Trump’s trip abroad, the White House press secretary has held uncharacteristically short press briefings in which he claimed not to know the answer to questions, outsourced questions to other officials or dismissed the premise of questions entirely.”

    “Both briefings included less than 20 minutes for questions — far less than most prior briefings — and ended with Spicer abruptly exiting the room to the consternation of reporters.”

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    germy says:

    I just saw this in the washington post

    Biden sets up new political action committee, signaling a possible 2020 White House run

    The use of leadership PACs like the one the former vice president plans to officially launch Thursday is a common tactic for politicians contemplating White House bids down the road.

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    rikyrah says:

    Ted Lieu‏Verified account @tedlieu

    Ted Lieu Retweeted CNN Politics

    If Sessions-Kislyak story is true, it shows Sessions didn’t just commit perjury, he committed big time perjury. Why is he still in office?

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    ThresherK says:

    @Gravenstone: Earth will survival humans. Erick is a little too blithe about the experiment, though, the way conservatives just brush off things like other peoples’ poverty.

    I don’t want the experiment where Erick bin Erick plays the Yosemite Sam idjit, sawing off the tree branch humanity is sitting on.

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    jl says:

    @M. Bouffant: Amazing how Trumpster flunkies, in the WH and out, paid and unpaid, near and far, are willing to persuade themselves into idiocy in order the carry Mr Big Shot’s water.

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    Jeffro says:

    @lamh36: oh…(pardon) HELL yeah!

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    rikyrah says:

    Smithsonian NMAAHC‏Verified account @NMAAHC

    A statement from our Founding Director Lonnie Bunch on the noose found in our history galleries today.

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    Peale says:

    @M. Bouffant: seriously, this much I agree with him on. We really do need to expand the fleet. To protect all those ships coming in from Germany and China filled with goods that are taking our jobs away. Heck, I’m sure they’d be full of sailors shanghaied from the streets of foreign lands since we can barely staff the paltry number of ships we have now.

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    rikyrah says:

    DA PHUQ?

    CNBC Tech‏Verified account @CNBCtech

    This start-up is offering $8,000 blood transfusions from teens to people who want to fight aging

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    Morzer says:


    Well, it’s probably hard for the Trump folks to figure out which of their colleagues committed perjury, which committed perjury squared and which deserve the perjury cubed citation at the end of the month sales team meeting.

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    Peale says:

    @germy: don’t worry about him. He will lose in the primary.

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    Kathleen says:

    Got this from my daughter’s tweet from Words With Friends:

    1. The amount and quality of reporting when autocorrect fails you at 3am

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    jl says:

    EE to humanity: die young and leave a bad looking corpse. BTW, Jesus loves you, why don’t you love him back?

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    Jeffro says:

    @germy: I know 70 is the new 50, but Biden’s 75 already and would be 78 in 2020. Thank you Boomers, but here’s the door. Heck, Biden is technically not even a Boomer, he’s too old for that label by 4 years.

    In other news…looks like it’s going to be a fun June, with all these J-Kush and now Sessions “meetings with Russians that I done forgot about” bullshit. Here’s hoping our national #fakemedia, at a minimum, calls their lame excuses out for what they are. They laughed at Spicey’s “covfefe” excuse today…it’s encouraging!

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    Peale says:

    @rikyrah: oh to be young enough to sell my blood to rich bastards.

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    Morzer says:

    John Schindler‏Verified account @20committee 2h2 hours ago

    MD compound was RIS SIGINT site aimed at NSA & DoD facilities on the Chesapeake. IC wanted to close it for decades.

    Chad Pergram‏Verified account @ChadPergram 4h4 hours ago

    Intel Cmte aide says subpoenas on “unmasking” would have come from Nunes “acting separately” from Russia probe w/o consent of minority

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    rikyrah says:

    Philip Klein‏Verified account @philipaklein

    Mulvaney says person in charge of CBO healthcare model is “Hillarycare alum” planted by Dems to score Obamacare

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    Jeffro says:

    @Morzer: Ramping up of anti-Trumpov efforts by by IC in 3…2…1…

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    rikyrah says:

    El Flaco‏Verified account @bomani_jones

    not even lebron can rich himself out of someone scrawling a racial slur on his house. remember that, all you “it’s really class” clowns.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    So, I was one of the people who thought that HR McMaster would be a moderating force in the administration… After today’s WSJ shitbag, He can go fuck himself. Also this.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    My favorite part is that the guy or gal driving that truck is driving it around in Texas. Texas.

    He or she must need that pickup bed to haul around their giant (metaphorical) balls.

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    hovercraft says:

    Erick son of Erick is an asshole and always has been, I felt sorry for him and his wife when he disclosed their illnesses, and empathized with their concern for their kids if the worst should happen. Fuck him, regardless of if or who we worship, we all have a right to clean air and a viable planet for our kids and grandkids. Responsible people do not destroy shit just because they can, especially when they know that their destructiveness is harming people today, and will harm future generations.

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    The saying “never ask a witness a question you don’t know the answer to”. Apparently no one in the GOP has ever heard this, or if they do, they haven’t thought this through. My bad, this assumes that Nunes can think.

    ETA: Nunes and his WH bosses are stupid and short sighted, after all these are the same geniuses who thought their last stunt was smart. SAD !!

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Jeffro: Oh, come on, who among us hasn’t overlooked a meeting here or there with the Ambassador of Russia?

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    jl says:

    @Jeffro: It’s a free country, I really don’t see the point of complaining about people doing what they can do in a free country under the current laws, and party rules.

    Bernis can run, HRC can run (even if she is saying ‘no’ now), Biden can run, in 2020. O’Malley can run, I just hope he thinks out something more substantive to say next time.

    I don’t want any of those oldsters running again, unless we are really desperate for leadership. But anyone worried about enduring these people for another run really need to contact people they think would be good candidates and support them. And advocate with Democratic Party to put a stop to oldsters and sinister outsiders (aka *******).

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    rikyrah says:

    Kyle Griffin‏Verified account @kylegriffin1

    Noose found in Nat’l Museum of African American History and Culture—Sec. of Smithsonian called it a “repugnant” act.

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    kindness says:

    Ericson is such a putz. But you know what is beautiful? Eric’s old website RedState has a handful of regulars and that’s it. Used to be packed over there. No more. I would love it more but I know they went to 4Chan, Breitbart and the other hater sites. They didn’t suddenly become aware and I doubt they ever will.

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    p.a. says:

    The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat and Other Clinical Tales is a 1985 book by neurologist Oliver Sacks describing the case histories of some of his patients.

    sequel: The Republican Who Mistook Russians for Thin Air…

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    Juju says:

    Jeeze I hate Andrea Mitchell. If anyone else watched Ari Melber filling in for Rachel, I found the section where Ari had Andrea Mitchell to comment on the Hillary interview infuriating. No, Hillary never talked about being a grandmother in previous campaigns because she wasn’t a grandmother. Also, there was documentable evidence that Comey’s letter at the end of the campaign caused Hillary’s numbers to drop. It is not just HRC’s opinion, and yes, women put up with sexism, especially women who seek power in whatever field they pursue. Mrs. Allan Greenspan is the last person who MSNBC should seek commentary on HRC. Mitchell bears a long held grudge. I just wish Mitchell would stay home and diaper her husband. Rant over. I feel a bit better.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    And, of course, some jackass in the twitter comments has to whine about all of the white people being killed and get the beliefs of the Dallas shooter completely ass-backwards as a bonus.

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    rikyrah says:

    this bytch here!!

    jodikantor‏Verified account @jodikantor

    I get the practical concerns. But Barack Obama buying schmancy DC house in nabe thick w lobbyists just feels weird

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @rikyrah: Good. God.
    ETA: Of course there were no, say, oil executives in the fancy Dallas “nabe” Shrubb moved into when the Lazy Potemkin had ceased to serve its photo-op purpose. And Cheney’s “nabes” Jackson Hole are all plumbers and carpenters.

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    hovercraft says:

    @M. Bouffant:

    He’s certainly giving Hoft a run for his money.

    Who knew that liberals bought small cars as a form of family planning.

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    Peale says:

    @Juju: who says she wasn’t already a grandmother in the 2006 Senate Race.

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    jl says:

    @Juju: At least Andrea Miller is even handed. She’s just as good a journalist on Hillary Clinton as I’ve seen her on any other topic.

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    @Omnes Omnibus: Someone can write a book called Dereliction of Duty about his role in T admin.

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    rikyrah says:

    Anthony Slater‏Verified account @anthonyVslater

    LeBron James responds to racial slur sprayed on front gate of his LA home with strong statement on race issues in America

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    Peale says:

    @rikyrah: Jesus. He needs to pull his daughter from Sidwell Friends and high tail it to Anacostia.

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    lamh36 says:

    OT, but WHAT THE FUQ…

    Son of a… “falling in love”…

    HE WAS FUQ’N 12!!!!!!

    Mary Kay Letourneau and Vili Fualaau SPLIT after 20 years of first falling in love

    FUQ you Daily Mail…for that fuq’ed up headline

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    Peale says:

    @hovercraft: queue “making love in a Subaru”

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    Duane says:

    You need to buy a scorecard to keep track of all the assholes.Deep bench.New players every day.

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    hovercraft says:

    I saw that, she has a love hate relationship with Hillary, she loves going on TV to trash her because she hates her. Fuck Mrs Greenspan!

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    Gravenstone says:

    @lollipopguild: So suicide is a mortal sin. But voting for a politician in the specific hope he’ll start a war that directly leads to your death (suicide by proxy) is the righteous path? Fucking bible humping idjits.

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    rikyrah says:

    This entire thread

    Jack Runyan‏ @JackDRunyan

    I am going to candidly articulate why white liberals can often be poor allies by appealing to my own personal evolution.

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    jl says:

    @hovercraft: I have not read and I have not heard one bit of news that indicates anything at all wrong with the unmasenenneineINGhazigate. So, Nunes must have been instructed by his WH handlers to try some truly desperate attempts at distraction.

    If Sessions is trying to hide yet another contact with Russian officials, that won’t be a shoe dropping, it will be box car full of horse shoes. Josh Marshall’s hunch will be much more likely that there is a huge recent corruption and/or crime even being covered up that includes Trumpsters and top GOPers (and NRA…which has been more open about its racism lately)

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    Gravenstone says:

    @rikyrah: Impeach – Indict – Disbar.- Imprison

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    Mary G says:

    I am embarrassed to say that I had no idea how much racism and sexism there still is on the left.

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    lamh36 says:

    @rikyrah: like I replied to Jodi on Twitter,

    The Obamas are in DC cause Sasha is going to complete high school there? Where da fuq do you want them to live Jodi…da projects?

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    chris says:

    @Mnemosyne: How can you tell it’s Texas?
    Also, can the Dems recruit this person to run for office? I’d watch that!

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    efgoldman says:

    @M. Bouffant:

    And, yes, it should be easy to do — if ideologues of both left and right are pushed aside for the common good.

    Yes, and everyone will pay for it with the platinum coins which their pet unicorns shit.

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    jl says:

    @Gravenstone: Heresy doesn’t mean much these days, in a modern secular country. But worth noting that by traditional dogmatic standards, much of the modern Endtimes Dispensationalist Xtianity is heresy.

    Traditional interpretation, and probably accurate, of an important message of Revelations, is that a good Christian should remain true to the good Chrsitian values (love, charity, Jesus teachings) The end time would come on God’s calendar and a good Christian should endure and live the values of their faith. Not egg it on.

    That is not a ringing defense of Revelations. It is full of revenge porn and it is difficult to keep that a spectator sport.

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    efgoldman says:


    Biden sets up new political action committee, signaling a possible 2020 White House run

    No, Joe, say it ain’t so, Joe.

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    lollipopguild says:

    @Gravenstone: You are correct but we are dealing with people who have the brain of a turnip. Obama was the antichrist and yet the world did not end, trump could be the antichrist and they would worship him. Go figure.

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    Davebo says:


    It ain’t so.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    I’ve seen the photo before — that’s a zoomed-in and cropped version. I think the original caption said it was spotted in Houston, but I can’t remember.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @germy: PACs have other uses too.

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    hovercraft says:

    All these people who are so concerned about how the Obama’s earn money, what they wear, who they vacation with, and where they fucking live need to go DIAFF. Unless they commit crimes or take money from criminals mind your fucking business, they are private citizens, you had eight years to criticize his every waking moment, now just back the fuck off. If you chose to project all your ideals onto the Obama’s that’s your fucking problem, they are honorable human beings who get to make their own choices, when someone offers you 400 K to speak at their event, and you turn them down come talk to me, and I will applaud your standing by your “principles”, but that still won’t give you the right to dictate how Barrack and Michelle live their lives. Fucking assholes, where is all the hand ringing about how other ex-presidents are earning money or where they chose to live.

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    lollipopguild says:

    @jl: One of their dumbest ideas is that THEY can Force God to do what THEY want when THEY want him to. I have never figured this out-how they can believe this but they do.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    After today’s WSJ shitbag, He can go fuck himself.

    Duffelblog is a parody site, yes?

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    tobie says:

    @rikyrah: @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I suppose we can be grateful she didn’t say ‘hood. Small consolation.

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    efgoldman says:


    He or she must need that pickup bed to haul around their giant (metaphorical) balls.

    Also must own (or be related to someone who owns) a body shop.

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    dogwood says:

    Jodi should get her story straight. The Obamas are renting.

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    jl says:

    @lollipopguild: I think very dogmatic and devout spiritual pride. And I am very sure that Jesus did say that spiritual pride was no big deal. He said you have to watch out for really big sins like being a loser, adultery, and general human weakness. I’ll go look it up and be back with the verse right away. You just wait right here and I’ll be back, quick like a bunny.

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    Calouste says:

    @rikyrah: Are there any neighborhoods in DC where an ex-President could live (I assume the Secret Service imposes quite a few limitations) that aren’t thick with lobbyists?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @efgoldman: It is. But this is what I was referring to.

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    StringOnAStick says:


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    LurkerNoLonger says:

    @rikyrah: He was picked by HHS secretary Tom Price. God, these people are worthless.

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    Peale says:

    @Gravenstone: much to plato’s chagrin, and that of Christ, too, death or injury in the armed forces is an expression of the highest form of love there is.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    I think they spotted our friend Adam in the wild:

    THE PENTAGON — An entire Joint Planning Group (JPG) died from asphyxiation after a planner and a future operations officer sucked all the oxygen out of the room during a half-hour argument over the meaning of the phrase “direct support,” sources confirmed today.

    “Our first responders were on the scene within ten minutes,” said Fort Myer Fire Department Spokesman Scott Fuller. “But first they had to conduct mission analysis, Course of Action development, and preparation of a Rescue Commander’s Estimate in PowerPoint.”

    Sources reported that this took more than two precious hours, and by then, many of the 45 service members in the room were deceased.

    “We did find several people still breathing,” said Fuller. “But when we questioned them about the difference between constraints and limitations, their answers were incoherent. What’s more, none of them displayed any disruptive thinking capability.”

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    Emma says:

    @lollipopguild: One of the most amazing pieces of hubris I’ve ever encountered is some fanatics’ idea that they can force God’s hand. “He’s omniscient, omnipotent, and infinite, but we can trick him into changing his timetable to our liking.”

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    Chris says:

    This is giving conservative leaders far too much credit. No, they certainly don’t “know better.” They’re just as deluded as any stereotypical hick blaming black helicopters for cattle mutilation. At best, they’re deluded in different ways – i.e. “all right, maybe there is global warming, but the Free Market will find a solution in time, and since the government always does everything wrong, it’s best not to get it started.”

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    efgoldman says:


    It ain’t so.

    You ain’t Joe, Davebo

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    hovercraft says:

    Twitler is now Tweeting about Crooked Hillary, and to defend Carter Page, who he claims not to know, I smell desperation to change the subject. Hillary’s interview was probably a godsend to him, he thought it would pull the media back to the campaign fight, but while the media is making sure to mention her refusal to take any blame for her loss, they all inevitably go right back to TRussia. They used to be so easy to distract, but now …………….. they just won’t quit this FAKE NEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    scav says:

    Erwick wuuuvs Jebus, not his house. So, despite it being day 20 of constant rain with no change in the weather prediction, he’s not going to buy flood insurance, let alone gather any sacks for sandbags (the sand is readily available right by its foundations) or even critters in matched sets. See also Matthew 7:24-27

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    Calouste says:

    @germy: Ages of Democratic Presidents when they took over from a Republican:
    Obama: 47
    Clinton: 46
    Carter: 52
    Kennedy: 43
    FDR: 51

    You’d think people would notice a pattern.

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    jl says:

    @Mnemosyne: But, did one of the powerpoint mental disorientation weapons get loose? That’s what I want to know. If so, none of us are safe.

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    dogwood says:

    The Kalorama neighborhood is probably one of the few places someone who has security needs can live. The home they are renting is on a fairly large lot with off-street parking. That neighborhood is essentially part of Embassy Row, very pricey, yet fairly amenable to security requirements.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    It is. But this is what I was referring to.

    I don’t subscribe, but if I did, and could read the whole thing, it would probably piss me off much too much for this hour.

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    dogwood says:

    I stand corrected. The Obamas did purchase the place. They were renting initially. It’s probably a good investment.

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    efgoldman says:



    What did i do to deserve deletion…

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    jl says:

    @hovercraft: I don’t mean to diss Hillary Clinton, but fact is, no one really cares about the Hillary BS non-scandals anymore, even if Hillary herself isn’t that popular right now. Just because Trump himself repeatedly said, to stop his crowds from chanting ‘lock her up’ after the election, that no one cares about Hillary’s emails anymore, doesn’t mean it isn’t true.

    I find it hard to believe something that Trump ever said might actually be true. But there you are. Reality can be very mysterious and paradoxical.

    Anyway, you are right, looks like desperation. If news breaks that Sessions is still lying about his Russian contacts, the dam may be about to break on what was and is really going on.

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    different-church-lady says:

    I just saw this in an earlier thread: my nomination for comment of the year

    62 million Americans voted for a racist perv who boasted about assaulting women to be their president. When the fuck is it going to be their fault Trump is president instead of Hillary Clinton’s?

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    efgoldman says:


    I think they spotted our friend Adam in the wild

    Like all really good parodies, it’s this close to true.
    Fort Meyer, among other things, is the headquarters for the US Army Band.

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    hovercraft says:

    It’s purportedly to raise money for the two gubernatorial races this year and the midterms. The media is desperate for a designated “leader”, who will validate their contention that all our leaders are old and we have no bench. Remember all our problems are Obama and Hillary’s fault, they both did terrible damage to the party.

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    Morzer says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    America First does not mean America alone.

    They’ll always have Fox and Friends.

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    lollipopguild says:

    @Emma: “Here hold my beer while I trick God into doing what I want him to.”

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @efgoldman: Summary. The piece manages to include a flat-out lie about NATO Article 5 and Trump. Pissed me the fuck off.

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    lollipopguild says:

    @different-church-lady: The answer to the question is “Never Katie.”

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Trump’s election is the fault of everyone except Trump’s voters.

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    Morzer says:


    Didn’t that news just break, or did I miss an episode of Jeff Sessions Does Perjury: Season II?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Morzer: And, of course, America First doesn’t harken back to Lindbergh in the late ’30s.

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    hovercraft says:

    To anyone who’s interested Lawrence O said he’ll be there for the next couple of years, so I guess they were shamed into renewing his contract.

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    jl says:

    @Morzer: Shoes drop so fast, I may have missed something. When i read it, it was an unconfirmed report on lead in the IC investigation. I have to go now, and am confident that if it is verified, I’ll probably notice it sooner or later in the news.

    Sort of like I’d notice a pound of sick elephant shit hitting a fan in my bedroom.

    Edit: just so there is no misunderstanding, what I was talking about was report that Sessions has been hiding a third and perhaps fourth meeting with Russian ambassador and other officials. That’s what I meant by ‘still lying’.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    The piece manages to include a flat-out lie about NATO Article 5 and Trump.

    You don’t mean to tell me that a highly-placed person of this maladministration told a public, easily disprovable, lie?!?
    It is to gasp in astonishment :::gasp:::

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @hovercraft: he’s my distant third favorite MSNBC prime time host, but since his rumored replacement was said to be Brian Willams, I’m glad to hear this

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    Morzer says:

    H.R. McMaster and Gary Cohn may not be the most influential people in the Trump White House. But the national-security adviser and the director of the National Economic Council are surely the White House’s most presentable faces. When they sign their names to a statement of Trumpism at its most dangerous, we are warned: The so-called adults in the room are shirking their responsibilities.

    On Tuesday, The Wall Street Journal published an op-ed bearing McMaster’s and Cohn’s names. It’s a good guess they did not actually write very much of it. However, they now own it—and the United States must bear the consequences.

    You can have friends. Or you can have people you work with only when your immediate interests align. Those are not the same thing. The Cohn/McMaster op-ed uses the word “friend”—without ever making clear who belongs to that category—but its logic is that of a nation friendless and alone. Perhaps the most terrifying thing about the Trump presidency is the way even its most worldly figures, in words composed for them by its deepest thinkers, have reimagined the United States in the image of their own chief: selfish, isolated, brutish, domineering, and driven by immediate appetites rather than ideals or even longer-term interests.

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    lollipopguild says:

    @efgoldman: Please do not pass out from the shock.

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    workworkwork says:

    @rikyrah: Horrifying as this is in any event, a couple of questions occur to me:
    1. How much do the teens get paid?
    2. How do the customers know that the blood is a) safe and b) from an actual teen?

    This doesn’t even get into the completely gross pseudo-science.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @efgoldman: I expected better of McMaster. Oh, well.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    I’ve heard at least a half-dozen interviews with him over the last few days. Looking forward to the book.

    (I always read footnotes, endnotes, prefaces, introductions, forewords, bibliographies, appendices, and annotated indices. If I recall from Franken’s earlier books, which I read and enjoyed, his are especially worth checking out.)

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    Mnemosyne says:

    In case anyone is interested, a kind soul in a previous thread provided a link to the full transcript of Hillary’s interview by Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher at Code 2017.

    Turns out, when you ask Hillary Clinton questions about her campaign and what she thinks went wrong, she answers them rather than trying to change the subject!

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    jl says:

    @Morzer: Thanks for the link. That op-ed was a disgusting and dangerous screed and a disgrace to both the Trumpster flunkies who scribbled it.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    I think Harwood’s one of the good ones

    Ken DilanianVerified account @ KenDilanianNBC
    Hillary Clinton appears totally and completely incapable of self-reflection about the email behavior that arguably cost her the presidency.

    John Harwood‏Verified account @ JohnJHarwood 6h6 hours ago
    John Harwood Retweeted Ken Dilanian
    a lot of people, including people in our business, need to engage in self-reflection on this topic

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    Sab says:

    @hovercraft: Calm down. Every time Michelle Obama speaks anywhere in any forum my granddaughters (ages 16 to 12) go berserk. The Obama aren’t going away and the kids who grew up in the last eight years won’t forget them.

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    Another Scott says:

    @Emma: It’s a very old idea. Kinda like if you know and say the name of something, then you have some measure of control over it. Summoning the spirits; and recall the prohibition of saying Yahweh; etc.


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    efgoldman says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I expected better of McMaster.

    Everything and everyone that Velveeta Voldemort touches turns to pigshit, if they weren’t that way already. It’s apparently one of his few real talents.

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    Redshift says:

    @hovercraft: Yeah, when I hear “leadership PAC,” I think of one that’s raising money to support other candidates, not a super secret running-for-president PAC. I doubt there’s any legal distinction, but you generally don’t call it that if it’s for yourself.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Sab: Why does she need to calm down?

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.):

    But while this is true, we shouldn’t make more of this than we need to. Every country has had these people. We have, too. They almost trashed the country 150 years ago. As awful as they are, there are more of us than there are of them.

    And did we have global climate instability getting ready to make life a hellhole if we fuck it up back then?

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    Morzer says:


    The EU and China are now working together on a stronger climate change agreement – and the logical step after that will be to punish states, like the US, that choose not to follow their standards. I think Trump has succeeded in isolating and weakening America in a way that can only delight China and, of course, his special friend in the Kremlin.

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    efgoldman says:


    I think Trump has succeeded in isolating and weakening America

    And it will take the next [Democratic] president at least half a term to begin straightening it out.

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    hovercraft says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    Exactly, Brian Williams needs to stay at 11 when i switch over to other stuff. According to the ratings Rachel is # 1, Lawrence # 2. I like Chris Hayes better, but between his penchant for inviting BS on and letting his GOP guest lie and filibuster him, I prefer watching Lawrence.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @efgoldman: The next D president will get and deserve another Nobel Peace Prize.

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    Morzer says:


    More than that, if the GOP hold the Senate. There’s no chance that they’d sign up for treaties that might actually do some good.

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    you had eight years to criticize his every waking moment

    I don’t think you’re giving them enough credit, they criticized Obama when he was sleeping.

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    Emma says:

    @Another Scott: I know that, but it is still hubris of the worst order. The thing of it is that Yahweh is not exactly a kindly old man and pissing him off would be, IMHO, a real, real big oopsie.

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    Another Scott says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: We already know that Lisa Simpson will be the next President


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    hovercraft says:

    People get to have any reaction they want, if I ran into her I’d lose my shit.
    My reaction as a black woman is to lose my shit every time white people try to tell this first family how to live their lives when I don’t remember people trying to tell anyone other than Hillary Clinton a woman how to live their lives. They get to whine about the Obama’s life choices, and I get to tell them to STFU.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Another Scott:

    We already know that Lisa Simpson will be the next President…

    Even though she’s imaginary, she’s got more common sense than the whole grifter family combined.

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    Chet Murthy says:


    My favorite part is that the guy or gal driving that truck is driving it around in Texas.

    da phuq? Even I have limits to the level of animosity towards Putinfluffer that I’ll exhibit on Twitter (and here) b/c I might have to visit Texas for unvoidable reasons. The idea that somebody can be -that- up-front about their Trump-hatred …. wowsers..

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Another Scott: HRC is Lisa Simpson. And Hermione Granger.

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    @SiubhanDuinne: Most of the book went though the DeHumorizer*, the comments didn’t.

    *When you read the book, you’ll understand what the DeHumorizer is.

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    Chet Murthy says:

    @rikyrah: Crrrikey. Clinton: Chappaqua. W: Prestonwood. These are richie-rich enclaves. What’s Obama supposed to do? Don a hair shirt and go around whipping himself?

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    Redshift says:


    The Kalorama neighborhood is probably one of the few places someone who has security needs can live.

    There are other places if you don’t restrict yourself to DC proper (McLean and Potomac come to mind), but I’m sure they have just as many lobbyists, if not more. The criticism is just another idiotic “how dare he do things that people with money do.”

    I have an acquaintance from my early activist days who turned Bernista and now periodically posts sneers about how Obama obviously always planned to cash in, and that’s why he didn’t break up the banks. Sigh.

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    mouse tolliver says:

    @rikyrah: This topic went viral after last Sunday’s episode of Silicon Valley, called The Blood Boy.

    The show’s tech billionaire a-hole antagonist was shown getting a blood transfusion from this fit college jock claiming the transfusion of young blood would extend his life. People started wondering if this idea was based on something real, and it turns out everyone’s favorite libertarian Trump supporter is a fan of this idea.

    But the wildest part of all of this scenario is that it’s real. In the recent past, Silicon Valley eccentric Peter Thiel publicly stated his intent to live forever, possibly using the blood of young people as an elixir for prolonged life.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @Peale: He’s had a lot of practice.

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    ruemara says:

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.): But they work harder for longer. that’s why we’re back in this predicament but now with more weapons.

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    efgoldman says:

    @mouse tolliver:

    Peter Thiel publicly stated his intent to live forever

    He’s got a REALLY BIG surprise coming.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: by definition, anyone who goes to work for that dipshit has no integrity. Check your reputations at the door.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Bobby Thomson: Thank you for pointing that out. It isn’t like I knew the guy in the past and am surprised, disappointed, and, quite honestly, upset by this.

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    hitchhiker says:

    I just can’t get over a guy in 2017 saying that he “worships Jesus.”

    It’s like I don’t … I don’t have access to whatever that means. I’m a blind woman trying to understand what chartreuse is when it comes to this kind of statement.

    Which is why it’s so freaking strange to think that he represents a lot of others who somehow base their life choices on what appears to me to be a completely nonsensical assertion, AND claim the moral authority to also dictate MY life choices based on that same assertion.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Sadly, Clinton Derangement Syndrome is a degenerative disease. Though, given the man’s age, an actual degenerative disease like dementia can’t be ruled out.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Mnemosyne: CDS? Explain please?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I suspect McMaster has a nasty case of it.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Mnemosyne: cites?

    ETA: Maybe Obama was the issue?

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    nightranger says:

    To quote terminator, from memory

    “You can’t bargain or reason with them. They do not feel pity or remorse, and they will never stop”

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    nightranger says:

    To quote terminator, from memory

    “You can’t bargain or reason with them. They do not feel pity or remorse, and they will never stop”

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I’m trying to help you come up with a plausible explanation for why someone you used to like and respect has lost his goddamned mind. If you don’t want one, that’s cool.

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    RobertDSC-Mac Mini says:

    @Chet Murthy:


    LOL. I like this.

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    @hovercraft: It’s all a liberal plot, as if the rich liberal elitists he so bitterly resents couldn’t buy a larger car if their family increased.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @mouse tolliver: My guess is someone gave Thiel a copy of Bug Jack Barron & the imbecile mistook it for a research report…

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    lowtechcyclist says:

    What I like about Erick is the juxtaposition between his supposed Christian beliefs, and his Twitter avatar. The one with the word “POWER” right over his fat-fuck face, and about how he’s on a list of Atlanta’s movers and shakers.

    A few words from Jesus:

    “He who humbles himself will be exalted, and he who exalts himself will be humbled.”

    “Who would be first of all must be last of all, and servant of all.”

    “The first shall be last, and the last shall be first.”

    Christianity isn’t about earthly power, and it definitely isn’t about self-promotion.

    Oh, and his Twitter banner, or whatever the term is: a silhouette of an eagle, with stars. Because Jesus is all about America. You know, “For God so loved the U.S. of A….”

    Leonard Bernstein had the number of guys like Erick with this little sermon from his Mass:

    God made us the boss
    God gave us the cross
    We turned it into a sword
    To spread the word of the Lord
    We use his holy decrees
    To do whatever we please
    And it was good – yeah!
    And it was good – yeah!
    And it was god-damned good!

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    No One You Know says:

    @jl: While I may understand the sentiment, I don’t buy the idea that age alone is a disqualifier. If Bernie Bros can have Bernie, I damned well am going to support Biden and like-minded others.

    Old is not equal to “dead” or “irrelevant” and “young” isn’t necessarily an improvement. Witness the current Speaker. YMMV.

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    The Pale Scot says:

    I’m waiting for the

    “The Holy Grail can be found in the land of ..AHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh” completed in a jerky scrawl Twitter

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    different-church-lady says:

    @rikyrah: Let’s not kid ourselves: they’re drinking it, not transfusing it.

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    Sloane Ranger says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    “America first and last and always;
    Our hearts are loyal, our faith is strong;
    America first and last and always;
    Our shrine and homeland, though right or wrong.”

    Campaign song of Big Bill Thompson , friend of All Capone, during his successful 1927 run for Mayor of Chicago.

    He later set up the America First Foundation and tried to run for President.

    There are many similarities between him and the Dump.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @hovercraft: Here’s what I don’t get about their “Christian”theology. God: Here’s a great gift. This beautiful, wondrous world to live in. Weird Christianist: Thanks. I’ll befoul it and burn it up to show my gratitude and love.

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    momus says:

    As DT might say “SAD, LOSER”

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    hovercraft says:

    @Gelfling 545:
    Lets be honest, republicans are the type of people who come to your house and trash it, then wonder why you never invite them back. You’re the snob who’s decided you’re too good for them.

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