What’s on the agenda as we wrap up another busy week?
Also, Kay alert! —
Key Republicans Are Encouraging Hillbilly Elegy Author J.D. Vance To Run For Senate In Ohio https://t.co/B2NeojVZ1W
— McKay Coppins (@mckaycoppins) May 26, 2017
If you see an article extolling how *cheap* Medicaid is without acknowledging its abysmal health outcomes, you should be skeptical.
— J.D. Vance (@JDVance1) May 25, 2017
@emmettrensin No, that we don't have good evidence that it improves objective physical measures.
— J.D. Vance (@JDVance1) May 25, 2017
I don't know folks, I'm starting to think making Peter Thiel's partner the voice of the working class might have been a mistake. https://t.co/UZc0RTAYTq
— Noah McCormack (@noahmccormack) May 25, 2017
Please run, PLEASE, because I want all the headlines on election night to be "Hillbilly's Elegy: Brown Defeats Vance By 21 Points" https://t.co/zLqIARWFIC
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) May 26, 2017
Baud
To its credit, GOS has a nice, encouraging write up about the loss in Montana.
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2017/5/25/1666090/-Daily-Kos-Montana-special-election-open-thread
Baud
Hillbilly MBA.
rikyrah
Good Morning,Everyone???
Baud
@rikyrah: Good morning.
rikyrah
@Baud:
That was a good article. Thanks.
satby
Ugh! I barely broke even at the market yesterday, the house looks like Yucca Flats after the blast, number 2 son will be here tomorrow with his new gf for me to meet, and I promised some customer I would be at the market today. I’m still processing how boorish Drumpf was yesterday.
Good morning, I guess!?
Baud
I prefer OzarkHillbilly.
Schlemazel
@Baud: @Baud:
See! Its comments like that one that make a ‘like’ button an appealing option.
Other sites without it are often flooded with “+1” instead but that appears to have acquired a different meaning around these parts
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: Give it time.
Hill Dweller
@Baud: I haven’t read the write up at GOS, but I did see that $5.1 million in outside money was spent attacking Quist, and approximately $480,000 praising Gianforte. Conversely, Quist only received $656,000 in outside spending help. The right wing is trying to buy every level of government.
Baud
@Schlemazel: At BJ, a DIAF button would probably be more fitting.
@Hill Dweller: The money issue is discussed in the GOS piece.
rikyrah
@satby:
Sounds like a busy day ?
bystander
@Baud: OzarkHillbilly may just be the demographic balance the Baud ticket needs. I’m sure Warren Hearnes’ endorsement from “across the aisle” would quickly follow.
amk
twitler’s ‘foreign visit’ = bow to corrupt dictators, boo to elected democracies.
p.a.
@bystander: Baud is in hock to Big Balloon industries. Not sure he can shake off the influence and act independently.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@Schlemazel: I won’t +1 unless I’m at least +8.
Baud
This sounds promising, although I hope they are also working to get people IDs
debbie
I know Buzzfeed’s news that the Ohio GOP is worried about Josh Mandel’s chances against Sherrod Brown will be very good news to Kay. You have no idea how horrible Mandel is.
OzarkHillbilly
@bystander: If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve.
debbie
@Baud:
Has a recall petition been set up yet?
Betty Cracker
Twitler a little while ago:
He’s just babbling nonsense now.
SFAW
@amk:
And, in the line waiting for the bus, shove the smaller kids aside.
He can do that because he’s in the best shape of any Preznit — heck, any Olympic decathlete! — EVAH. That fuckin’ mook.
satby
@rikyrah: yeah. And at some point I have to put together a bed for them to sleep on! At least I have the bed.
Baud
@bystander: I could use him to build the stages for my stump speeches. The media would eat it up.
@p.a.: When I give my paid speeches to Big Balloon, they make me inhale helium first. I hope those videos don’t get leaked!
JPL
@Hill Dweller: It appears to work. The negative ads against Ossoff are running non stop.
How soon before Gianforte delivers a speech discussing the moral decline in our country.
SFAW
@Betty Cracker:
I would think a good response to his idiotic tweet would be “Prove it, you fucking liar. Or are you too stoooopid?”
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
He might be telling the truth about Trump businesses here.
Baud
@JPL: I thought Ossoff had a good war chest.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud:
The DNC promotes voter fraud.
debbie
@Betty Cracker:
Last night he insisted his ratings approval was 48%!
NPR quoted Trump’s approval ratings for his base earlier. It hasn’t dropped for his hard-core base, but there was a 9% decrease in just the last month among his other supporters.
OzarkHillbilly
@Betty Cracker: SSDD
JPL
@Baud: I don’t think he can match the amount of money the republicans have put in. I know Ryan’s pac alone has put in 6.5 million so far. That doesn’t count the republican congressional committee, and outside organizations. Now I’m told that the candidate I support, wants to gut the military.
lumpkin
Mr Vance: Since you don’t believe health care is worth anything I’ll take yours please. Thanks and hope you don’t die soon.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: You can’t afford me.
Hill Dweller
@JPL: It absolutely works, especially in non-statewide elections. The GOP realized long ago they couldn’t win truthfully talking about policy. So they set about creating a massive propaganda machine; gutted campaign finance laws; crippled parts of the Voting Rights Act; and implemented the largest voter suppression operation since Jim Crow. They’re fascists, and the sane parts of this country better come to terms with that reality in a hurry.
Baud
@JPL: Have polls tightened? There was that one poll showing him ahead.
@OzarkHillbilly: Union thug.
Ghost of Fitzmas past
Another silver medal for our case full of them. Why do we bother?
Baud
@Ghost of Fitzmas past: Go away.
The Thin Black Duke
@Baud: The troll’s appearance here tells me that the puppet masters are getting nervous. Good.
Baud
@The Thin Black Duke: Yeah, none of the districts we’re talking about are even swing districts. They are all deep red.
bystander
@OzarkHillbilly:
Trying to get Bannon’s job when he gets canned?
@Baud:
Remember when Bob Dole fell off the stump?
Baud
@bystander: was he reaching for his viagra?
PST
@Baud:
Just be careful not to swallow any helium. There’s no more shrill, scary sound than a helium fart, and you can’t even light them.
Immanentize
I wonder how the Quist/Wilmer alliance TALE will be told by some at DKOS? But not wondering hard enough to check.
Quist always struck me as unlikely as Kinky Friedman was in Texas.
OzarkHillbilly
@bystander: He never got elected and yet he serves, himself if not trump.
Baud
@Immanentize: I don’t know anything about him except that he’s a D, which is good enough for me.
Barbara
@Baud: Actually I believe we do. Plus it improves financial outcomes and reduces having to make trade offs between health care and other essential goods.
Ghost of Fitzmas past
@The Thin Black Duke: nervous? They are LAUGHING at us. Next time they’ll shoot one of us dead before the election and still win. They have no shame and no need to adhere to any rules. They’ve already won. It’s over.
Baud
@Ghost of Fitzmas past: If it were over, troll, you would be off somewhere else doing something else except annoying us. Go away, comrade.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Ghost of Fitzmas past:
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, NO.
OzarkHillbilly
@Immanentize: At least Kinky Friedman promised to keep Austin weird.
Immanentize
@Baud: Oh I agree. But it just seems like a long shot — although Quist did better than Trump in MT.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: When it’s over, those checks from Putin will dry up.
kd bart
@Immanentize: There was never a point in this race where Quist was leading or appeared to be favored. The race was always a longshot. The best the polls showed in the end was that he was within single digits and had a chance if things broke right. Which is pretty much how it turned out. Because a half to two thirds of the vote was mailed in, the events of Wednesday night had little effect on the final outcome. If it had happened, 2-3 weeks earlier, might’ve been a different story.
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: Sadly Austin is a lot less weird than it used to be. See? Elections have consequences!
tobie
@Immanentize: They’re already blaming the Democratic party for the loss. In their narrative the party refused to support a promising candidate. There is ZERO reflection on whether a left-wing populist has crossover appeal. Total epistemic closure. Montana was actually a winnable state. You have a blue-dog governor and a blue-dog senator. Quist’s whole shtick about being a true Montanan, of the people, didn’t seem to work with Republicans and independents in Montana.
My fear now is that the Wilmerites will destroy the progress made in California by overreaching on a single-payer system. The ads agains the proposal write themselves. You can hear an ominous voice intoning, Candidate so-and-so supported raising your taxes by 30%.
SFAW
@Ghost of Fitzmas past:
Outside of the comment re: the amorality of the Rethugs, you really have no idea what you’re talking about. But I’m sure it sounds pretty to you.
p.a.
@tobie:
Hell, by definition Dem= unAmerican to them, so why should Montanan matter?
Baud
Matty Y
Gin & Tonic
@Ghost of Fitzmas past: You’re boring.
Ian G.
I look at the Montana AL election this way: if the erosion of support from Trump last year to this election holds in 2018 and is applicable to a state like NY, it means the entire NY Congressional delegation could be in play.
The Republican win last night is like the Warriors needing OT to beat the Nets. A win is a win, but the results are cause for concern.
Lapassionara
@Baud: I agree. ID’s are the issue in lots of places. I like Kay’s idea to pay a staff person in the places where lack of ID was a factor, and get that problem addressed for loyal Dems. These high level “expand access” terms are meaningless without a specific workable plan. I used to do election protection, and very few voter issues can be solved on the day of the election.
debbie
@Ian G.:
Don’t underestimate the power of early voting. This may be the wish we’re sorry we got. Even worse, other politicians may start thinking it would be good to pull a stunt like punching out a reporter rightbefore an election to bolster his/her support.
JMG
Quist raised $6 million. Ossoff has raised at least that much. Money was/is not their problem. That was/is they’re in places with more Republicans than Democrats, in Quist’s case, way, way more.
JPL
@Baud: That’s the last poll that I saw. It depends on his ability to get out the vote. We plan on voting the 3rd, and then going out to brunch. By we, I mean my son and dil. l
Baud
@JMG: That’s a lot for Montana. More Dem money wouldn’t have changed the result.
Baud
@JPL: Fingers crossed.
Shalimar
@Ghost of Fitzmas past: You’re wasting your time. For anyone here to be depressed by what you’re saying, you would have had to have made some effort in the past to establish yourself as one of “us”. You didn’t. You only come to depress people.
kd bart
@JPL: I plan on voting on the 5th.
tobie
@p.a.:
In our tribal politics, some of what you say is true. But Bullock won the governorship in MT this past November despite being a Dem and Tester has been elected twice. Before Bullock, Schweiker was gov of MT so Dems have won state-wide contests in recent years. The problem seems to have been the candidate himself. Wilmerites have been screaming for months about how popular Wilmer is and how he appeals to a broader base than traditional Democratic candidates. This special election was a test case for that argument. The result indicates his appeal (or the appeal of his brand of politics) is limited. I gave to Quist’s campaign but I would have preferred a more evidence-based, policy-oriented candidate. The real lesson for me in all this is that we need to build the Democratic bench in all 50 states. Better candidates, better chances.
Baud
@Shalimar: Oh, now he’s going to show up in the Sunday garden thread and talk about his tomatoes…
Elizabelle
@Shalimar: Indeed.
@Ghost of Fitzmas past: You’re a pie, dude. Mincemeat laced with arsenic. Buh bye.
Shalimar
@Baud: Maybe it would give him a little empathy if he did.
Ghost of Fitzmas past
@Shalimar: I’m here to wake you up. The rules don’t apply anymore. Being right or being just does. not. matter.
OzarkHillbilly
@tobie: There you go again, talking in realistic terms.
Elizabelle
We can deconstruct this later, but Michael Gerson just woke up to what his Republican party has become. The Seth Rich lies were the bridge too far. Gerson tries to blame this all on Trump.
Uh, no. The Republicans BUILT Trump. Not the other way around.
WaPost: The conservative mind has become diseased
You’re 30 years late in waking up, Michael. And don’t goddamned blame Trump for noticing how hollowed out your Republican party had become and running with it.
Trump could have NEVER tried to run as a Democrat. Never. You radical and enabling Republicans own this prion disease. This is on YOU.
Ghost of Fitzmas past
@Baud: and there it is. The moral victory/trending upwards/sooooo close narrative. Again. Loser talk. I’m tired of it.
Baud
@Elizabelle: Sing it!
Elizabelle
@Ghost of Fitzmas past: Yes it does. It just takes time.
Go fuck yourself, you fucking, lying troll.
Baud
@Ghost of Fitzmas past: It’s infuriating. If I were you, I would leave liberal blogs and never come back until we learn our lesson.
Elizabelle
@Baud: Tra la la.
I don’t think Gerson has it in him to really follow Bruce Bartlett’s, or David Frum’s, or David Brock’s, path. But maybe he will. That would be a pleasant surprise. To celebrate with pie.
If Gerson is writing this, he is a faster learner than David Fucking Brooks. (Look — over there! Elites!)
tobie
@OzarkHillbilly: It sucks to be a broken record. Spousal unit tells me I need to shake things up a bit–after the 100th iteration of the plea that I’d really like a dachshund. Dog-loving BJers: are dachshunds difficult pets?
OzarkHillbilly
@Ghost of Fitzmas past:
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10,000 unemployed comedians and here you are giving it away for free.
MomSense
@Baud:
Sounds like good advice, B.
OzarkHillbilly
@tobie:
That all depends on the owners. My future DIL has 2 that my son loves ragging on but she adores them. My own preferences lean towards larger dogs.
Elizabelle
@tobie: I love dachshunds. Also, they’re so portable. They’d fit right in a pet carrier to travel with you on an airline, when you need.
Temperament: Playful, Devoted, Stubborn, Lively, Courageous, Clever
Great little dogs. Some of them are racers. Wiener Dog Nationals.
tobie
@OzarkHillbilly: @Elizabelle: Thanks so much for the advice! From childhood onward I’ve wanted a dachshund and I’m in my mid-50s now so I feel like it’s time to honor the wish. I may be going abroad the year after next for an extended stay, so portability is an issue. Will let you know if I overcome the bulwark of resistance to this idea in my home.
Elizabelle
@tobie: Does the “abroad” allow you to bring pets? I’m not up on my pet passport countries.
I don’t have a dog right now, cuz of travel. :-( But I love them.
hovercraft
@OzarkHillbilly:
Come on, your country needs you! If Jason Kandar is not willing next time, you just have to run to rid us of Roy Blunt! He’s not up for a while, so you have time to adjust to the thought of spending your days with a bunch of ignorant morons who love the sound of their own voices.
mainmata
@amk: And he’s absolutely negatively obsessed by the Germans and Merkel. Such a sicko.
Chris
@tobie:
The Wilmerites are all set to be our teabaggers, placing ideological purity over electoral chances and then screaming treason and backstabbing when their candidates lose. Only without the level of elite support that buffed up the teabaggers to the point of a truly dangerous threat.
Ian G.
@mainmata:
Shitgibbon is really threatened by powerful women, isn’t he?
Also, 70+ years after the end of WWII, there’s a thriving Israeli expat community in Berlin. 150+ years after the Civil War, we still have dipshits fighting to preserve monuments to violent traitors. It’s almost as if Germany is a far better example of democracy, the welfare state, and moving on from the sins of the past than we are.
gvg
@tobie: My relatives have had many over the years with mostly great experience. I have 2 warnings. All purebred dogs have some health issues to look out for. Dachshunds mostly it’s back problems with some miniature breed issues. The common dachshund that we see around is actually the miniature version of a standard which were larger and are now somewhat rare. My dad had a standard doxie more than 60 years ago that climbed slanted trees with him. Anyway, avoid puppy mill breeders and non health breeders which may mean some too concerned with shows instead of health. I don’t think doxies are more prone to it than other breeds and luckily haven’t been one of the most popular breeds for awhile which tends to ruin a breed for a few generations.
The other warning is don’t get a whole pack of them. 2 is great but my cousin kept a whole litter and had 6 at one time. they turned into a brat pack and won’t get along with other pets, chased cats, won’t shut up and a couple aren’t to be trusted not to nip non family so they get locked up a lot. this is not unique to dachshunds, but can happen with any small breed. This happened because she wanted a show quality dog and had to promise to breed the puppy which is a pretty standard requirement from breeders of top winner lines, then she was too sentimental to find homes for them. don’t do that. 1 or 2 will love you and be very loyal but take your time finding a breeder. there are breed rescues but still look for overall health.
Elizabelle
@Chris: True, but we’re a more reality-based party, and I think others will come to the same conclusions before too long.
If they can push the Overton window a bit, rather than just screaming, that’s all to the good. Wilmer’s not wrong about the pernicious effects of income stratification. He is not the only person saying that. He has just got the biggest microphone, at present. He did not get anywhere the Democrats were not, already. (Although actual Democrats release their damn tax returns.)
JPL
According to the Guardian, president dumbass complained about how hard it is to do business with the EU. Building golf courses is so hard.
hovercraft
@Baud:
+100
Two thumbs up, two toes up!!!
geg6
@Ghost of Fitzmas past:
LOL! You might be the shittiest troll this blog has ever attracted. And that’s saying something.
hovercraft
@Betty Cracker:
Yes, so successful that your national security staff had to run around the NATO meetings telling everyone not to take what you said seriously because A. you don’t know what you’re talking about, and B. you are an idiot who’ll say they opposite any minute now. Yes, a really successful trip! Did anyone tell him yet that German car makers are responsible for revitalizing some of the hardest hit areas of the south and that without them, there would be no jobs there?
I watched some Morning Joke and the only time I ever saw them all pile on him like they were doing was after the Billy Bush tape came out. Between his NATO behavior, J-Kush and his Doppelganger winning in Montana, everyone who came on was slamming him.
SAD! To think it began on such a graceful note, a gold medal, a dainty curtsy and then …………………
Laura
@OzarkHillbilly: they are stubborn, but as clever, winsome and charming. We get a weinie from the City Shelter -it was love at first site. Starved, running the streets, you could see his spine from a distance. His shelter name was Rambo, but now he’s Chet.
I love Chet. He’s using my leg for a pillow right now.
Kathleen
@p.a.: Chuck Todd will demand transcripts Baud’s BJ comments.
Elizabelle
@OzarkHillbilly: That’s a lot of Hs and As.
Kathleen
@Hill Dweller: +20
Kay
I’m on a school committee with a (very nice) moderate Republican who is the CFO of the 2nd largest employer here. We have worked together on two school funding elections- we won both. I do the Democrats and he does the Republicans. He asked that committee members read Hillbilly Eulogy. I don’t think they did since it was never mentioned again- we don’t really have time to debate books in this committee- but I read it.
Honestly I feel that he oversimplifies their problems. They do seem lost – especially the young men- but I do not see a way to “bring them up” in something like a public school setting without pushing some other people back because their culture seems to me to demand that they be front and center and that isn’t how this works- other people have cultures too. I’ll just give you an example. Bullying. A lot of white working class parents here think bullying is some normal expression of dominance and while that may be true in their families, “society” is trying to advance and we don’t condone wacking people as a way to settle disputes. Hitting people isn’t a cultural expression we can allow because we also have to worry about the people getting hit- they have a right to be comfortable and safe in school too. White working class men may want to “head up” their families because that’s where they derive self-worth but we can’t allow boys to think that’s how our institutions work because we are schooling girls too.
Maybe the measure of a “culture” is not how it functions in one place and time but it’s capacity to adapt to changing conditions. By that measure this culture doesn’t seem to be doing so hot. I get “tribalism”, I really do. I see the attraction and there’s always a grain of truth in it but in my opinion it’s limiting and not something people should aspire to. We are asking them to move out of their zone of comfort not because it’s “politically correct” but because they will not be able to function in the wider world unless they do. They can’t remain in this tribe because some of their cultural ideas limit the people around them who don’t share this culture and those people are important too.
Kay
And, ugh, I can’t believe the violent criminal just won a House seat. Jesus Christ. It’s not just that he’s a thug it’s that he’s a coward and a liar. He told his staffers to lie about that incident, which they happily did, hence the lying “statement”.
He’s hopelessly corrupt and he isn’t even seated yet. Stop promoting bad people. Why is this so hard?
a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)
@bystander: By “across the aisle”, do you mean “across the River Styx”?
Tilda Swintons Bald Cap
@Kay: Because they are ALL bad people. Sorry, but tens of millions of your countrymen are just assholes.
a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)
@tobie: A friend currently has several, and has had many over the years. Everything everyone has said about them is true. In addition, they are, even the miniatures, avid hunters–my friend’s are reliable mousers and ratters, and will hunt as a pack.
Also, their stubbornness can make them difficult to house-train.
They’re awesome living hot water bottles as well.
Shalimar
@Ghost of Fitzmas past: Why would I want to be woken up to life being completely hopeless and depressing? You don’t make sense.
Neldob
@tobie: mine yapped A Lot. Endlessly, from behind the stove, and I still loved him. RIP dear Schnitzel.
Elizabelle
@Kay:
Kay, important observation, and arriving so late in a thread. The not being able to adapt; being held back by traits that once served a purpose, but no longer do.
I wish we could spotlight your whole comment in its own blogpost.
Because how do we help move these people into the modern day world? Can we? How do we help the younger ones, before they’re set into cynicism and self-sabotage?
Elizabelle
@Kay: I had fingers crossed for Quist. Ah well. Maybe we’ll have a strong case of buyer’s remorse in place for 2018, when a less quixotic Democratic challenger can be fielded.
Disappointed in Montana, but at least the margin was a lot closer, and that is progress.
Heidi Mom
@Kay: I agree, Kay. In the book the author admitted that even after going to Ohio State and Yale Law, and happily married, his first instinct when a guy cut him off in traffic was to get out and punch the guy. He didn’t, and was glad that he didn’t, but how to replicate his journey on a larger scale?
Gretchen
@tobie: my sister had at least two dachshunds. I think they’re often particularly difficult to housetrain. Hers had to go back to the trainer for remedial.
artem1s
@tobie:
Quist was known to have problems from the get go. He had issues with his taxes. The Wilmerites seemed to have latched onto him because he looked like a Trumpkin. white, Idiot cowboy hat and jeans = I want to drink beer with this guy. Quist didn’t have great numbers compared to Hillary’s. She actually got about 10K more votes. Gianforte got 90K+ votes LESS than Trump. Turnout was down by 120K votes overall. About 24%. Where the fuck were all the populist white guy voters? Quist did have better percentages than Hillary. But if he had her turn out, he still would have lost by 3-4%. Once again, Bernie fails at swinging the libertarian/green voters who are supposed to be his revolution. The Independent votes with a repeat turn out of Hillary’s numbers and Quist walks away with a 5% win. The GOP won because they concentrated on voter and turnout suppression. The by-mail ballot lawsuit defeat worked for the GOP. At worse the assault probably kept GOP voters away from the polls on election day but early voters won this election. Wilmer probably dodged a double digit blow out embarrassment because Gianforte is so unlikable and out of control.
GA06 is going to be a better test of what might happen in 2018 and the Dems won that court case on the voter registration and suppression tactics. It is and will always be about turnout of the DEMOCRATIC base. Not the unreliable fickle independent voters.
Gretchen
@Elizabelle: I agree. I’d love to see everyone’s comments on Kay’s views on Hillbilly Elegy, especially since the author is being mentioned to run against Sherrod Brown, of all people.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Ghost of Fitzmas past: Us? dude, you’re paid Russian troll. Enjoy you life under the Shirtless Dictator.