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You are here: Home / Open Threads / We are all Gileadeans now

We are all Gileadeans now

by DougJ|  May 3, 20179:58 pm| 43 Comments

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I guess we shouldn’t be surprised that establishment media doesn’t give a fuck about this:

After failing to bring their Affordable Care Act replacement to a vote in March, GOP legislators have come armed with a new health care plan that may be even more heartless than their last.

According to Raw Story, the bill’s recently added MacArthur Meadows Amendment would ditch the ACA’s protections for preexisting conditions — sexual assault being one of them.

Under the amendment, states would have the all-clear to waive the ban preventing insurance companies from denying coverage to patients based on preexisting conditions. That means companies can also deny preventive health care services, like mammograms and gynecological exams, to these patients, which sexual assault survivors in particular rely on following an attack.

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  1. 1.

    MomSense

    May 3, 2017 at 10:00 pm

    Serenity now! My god the GOP are evil.

  2. 2.

    Aleta

    May 3, 2017 at 10:01 pm

    From
    * Lauren Dobson-Hughes
 @ldobsonhughes

    

1/3 of US women giving birth have c-sections. Any of their subsequent pregnancies or births would be uncovered. 1.2m women every year



    If you didn’t leave your abuser immediately, any subsequent medical care likely wouldn’t be covered. Pregnancy, violence, assault
    

    * 
If you need surgery after a sexual assault, or therapy, or STI treatment, or pregnancy care, good luck cause it’s not covered 


    * Potentially, if you had postpartum depression, you could be denied coverage for a subsequent pregnancy and birth, regardless of PPD 

If you had a c-section, any subsequent pregnancy or birth wouldn’t be covered. And uninsured vbacs or c-sections aren’t cheap

    

A woman who needed Plan B or prophylactic ARVs after a sexual assault would be denied them under the new bill 




    Weird how all the new pre-existing conditions overwhelmingly affect women. Must be coincidence 


  3. 3.

    Goku

    May 3, 2017 at 10:03 pm

    We are all Russians now. Putin is our president. Da zdravstvuyet Rodina!

  4. 4.

    MobiusKlein

    May 3, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    I’m still pissed that after all the (R) whining about how ACA was rammed thru Congress without a chance to read it, they’re doing it for reals.

  5. 5.

    Goku

    May 3, 2017 at 10:07 pm

    @MobiusKlein: They all really deserve to die for voting to kill at the very least thousands of their own citizens. Their voters deserve much the same. It didn’t take a genius to see this outcome

  6. 6.

    Aleta

    May 3, 2017 at 10:08 pm

    removed

  7. 7.

    Another Scott

    May 3, 2017 at 10:08 pm

    @MobiusKlein: Projection. It’s what they do.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  8. 8.

    Aleta

    May 3, 2017 at 10:09 pm

    removed

  9. 9.

    Elizabelle

    May 3, 2017 at 10:10 pm

    Do you think they actually have the votes, though? I am wondering if it’s kabuki and try to vote before running out the clock.

    GOP is using voting on Obamacare replacement as a terror tactic. It certainly terrifies me any time they get near it. We fight and call, but this wears us down, too.

    May they go down to defeat, again, and may they rot in hell. May we make their remaining months in Congress sheer hell, too.

  10. 10.

    Aleta

    May 3, 2017 at 10:10 pm

    ETA–Fixed, reposted, thanks
    (comment is stuck, don’t know why)
    eta oh, I think it’s v–ra

  11. 11.

    Elizabelle

    May 3, 2017 at 10:12 pm

    @Goku: They have not successfully brought the ACA down yet, though.

    I wish we’d stop giving them more power than they have. They’re liars.

  12. 12.

    Aleta

    May 3, 2017 at 10:13 pm

    more tweets from
    Lauren Dobson-Hughes

    Pre-existing conditions in new AHCA draft:
    – domestic violence
    – sexual assault
    – C-section
    – postpartum depression

    By all accounts, v—a, prostate care and vasectomies are still covered. Not that there’s a war on women or anything

    The only policy Trump has been able to deliver on is harming women. UNFPA, global gag rule, Let Girls Learn, war on PP, this

  13. 13.

    Mike J

    May 3, 2017 at 10:15 pm

    Pretty extreme message from an ambassador about the election:

    Gérard Araud ‏Verified account @GerardAraud 23 seconds ago
    Désormais, c’est clair : le vote dimanche sera un référendum sur l’appartenance à l’UE et à l’euro.

    Now it’s clear. The vote on Sunday will be a referendum on the EU and the euro.

  14. 14.

    Goku

    May 3, 2017 at 10:16 pm

    @Elizabelle: Should have said if they vote for it. Its ridiculous. Why can’t they listen to the public, their constituents? We don’t want this pos bill

  15. 15.

    Emerald

    May 3, 2017 at 10:16 pm

    I’ve called Issa three times and sent him a letter explaining how the ACA saved my life. He was “undecided” until late today, but now I hear he’s “leaning yes.”

    I know it won’t pass the Senate, but if he votes “yes” I will call him tomorrow to tell him, after I have taken these actions, that I have donated to both of his Democratic opponents and called Indivisible San Diego to get training on how to go door to door.

    I have to get a hip replacement first and that will happen in August, but after that I should be good to go. That gives me more than a year to hit the pavement.

    He’s toast in this district anyway, but I want to be sure that he’s barbequed.

  16. 16.

    Biscuits

    May 3, 2017 at 10:16 pm

    Thanks Putin. The Republican Party needs to die.

  17. 17.

    Tenar Arha

    May 3, 2017 at 10:17 pm

    We got an Act Blue set up yet? Because if they do vote for this tomorrow, even if it fails. I will, at minimum, donate $5 to every Democratic opponent of the 22 bastards who vote yes. That’s to start. Without knowing who or where they are.

  18. 18.

    Felonius Monk

    May 3, 2017 at 10:18 pm

    House vote on ACHA now scheduled for Thursday.

  19. 19.

    Aleta

    May 3, 2017 at 10:19 pm

    @Elizabelle: I wonder too. That they are applying pressure still seems likely.

    And, may their evil choke them and burn them up before they are allowed to rot.

  20. 20.

    gian

    May 3, 2017 at 10:20 pm

    Don’t forget the plan to “sell across state lines”

  21. 21.

    Goku

    May 3, 2017 at 10:23 pm

    @Biscuits: Indeed it does

  22. 22.

    FlyingToaster

    May 3, 2017 at 10:23 pm

    @gian: Good luck finding an insurer who wants to.

  23. 23.

    Ohio Mom

    May 3, 2017 at 10:24 pm

    Tomorrow my clueless cousin from Kentucky is driving through my town and wants to have brunch. Now I am thinking how painful it is going to be to spend time with someone who will think I’m silly for being upset about tomorrow’s vote.

  24. 24.

    BBA

    May 3, 2017 at 10:24 pm

    If need be, it’ll “pass” in an unannounced 3 AM emergency session without a quorum and be signed into law before anyone can challenge it, so His Orangeness can score a win.

    Or, hell, just have Ryan and Pence draw up the enrolled bill and sign it without a vote. If we’re going to act in bad faith, might as well go all the way.

  25. 25.

    Mike in NC

    May 3, 2017 at 10:28 pm

    @Goku: Pretty sure Russia has better healthcare than USofA will have.

  26. 26.

    gian

    May 3, 2017 at 10:31 pm

    @FlyingToaster:

    Why wouldn’t employers race to the least regulated insurer? Are the logistics for the least regulated insurer in day Arkansas to buy an insurer in Illinois and source everything from Arkansas?
    I see a decent chance for something like the way so many businesses headquarter in Delaware

  27. 27.

    Goku

    May 3, 2017 at 10:32 pm

    @BBA: It won’t be a win though, not for long. I heard last time around people will begin to lose coverage around 2018-2019, enough time for the elections, hopefully. People will know who blame: Trump and the majority party

  28. 28.

    geg6

    May 3, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    @Ohio Mom:

    Then why would you?

    Honestly, I don’t understand this misplaced loyalty toward “family” that will be happy to see you and people you care about die in order to wipe all achievements of the black man and his minions completely from the slate. Fuck that shit.

  29. 29.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    May 3, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    Suppose it passes tomorrow… it goes to the Senate where — what is likely to happen? Smooth sailing? Any idea?

  30. 30.

    Yarrow

    May 3, 2017 at 10:37 pm

    @West of the Rockies (been a while): The Senate has been signaling to the House that they don’t want the bill to come to them. They don’t want to have to take votes on it. So people are speculating that they don’t have the votes. I’m highly skeptical of that. McConnell knows how to count and twist arms to get votes. Also, don’t get between McConnell and tax cuts.

  31. 31.

    Ohio Mom

    May 3, 2017 at 10:45 pm

    @geg6: Oh, she’d be sad and sorry if anything untoward happened to anyone in my little family. She just will never connect the dots that maybe the way her dumb husband voted had anything to do with anything.

  32. 32.

    debbie

    May 3, 2017 at 10:49 pm

    @Aleta:

    Has no one asked any of the female GOP Congressional members what they think of this?

  33. 33.

    efgoldman

    May 3, 2017 at 11:10 pm

    @debbie:

    Has no one asked any of the female GOP Congressional members what they think of this?

    I expect they’re all in hiding. There are lots of places in the Capitol and the house office buildings where reporters can’t go.

  34. 34.

    FlyingToaster

    May 3, 2017 at 11:19 pm

    @gian: It’s not the employers, it’s the insurers. They have a working model where they make money. Crossing state lines puts them into having to keep track of things like doctors and practices in multiple states. That might work for some very large firms (cough Aetna cough) but it’s not something that is going to be easy to roll out. And none of them is going to want the headache of trying to sell into states that have Romneycare (the Commonwealth, Cthulhu save it!) or whatever California is going to call their thing, because the insurers will spend all their time in court and won’t be able to make money.

  35. 35.

    LurkerNoLonger

    May 3, 2017 at 11:23 pm

    Just disgusting. Hate, loathe, despise. These words aren’t strong enough for how I feel about Republican politicians, enablers and voters.

  36. 36.

    Barbara

    May 3, 2017 at 11:32 pm

    @gian: Large employers are self-insured and not even subject to state regulation. This has been true since 1974. Small employers could do what you suggest. This would definitely take us back to some very bad old days. But the reason insurers don’t sell across state lines in the way we think of is because most health care costs are attributable to local providers of health care and even if you’re licensed elsewhere, you have to create a network locally.

  37. 37.

    Barbara

    May 3, 2017 at 11:36 pm

    @Yarrow: In the Senate, the potential nos would be Collins and Heller, possibly Flake. Second order would be Gardner, Portman and Moore (WV). I fully expect Rubio to swallow hard and screw over his constituents, who rely more on the exchanges than any other state. Ditto with Toomey.

  38. 38.

    efgoldman

    May 3, 2017 at 11:46 pm

    @Barbara:

    In the Senate, the potential nos would be Collins and Heller,

    So is this steaming pile of pigshit still subject to reconciliation? Otherwise it will be filibustered, and I suspect many of the Republiklowns, including Yertle McTurtle, will secretly be relieved while publicly whining.

  39. 39.

    Ksmiami

    May 4, 2017 at 12:02 am

    @Biscuits: That’s my line. Though I say the GOP needs to be fucking buried with salt poured over the grave

  40. 40.

    Ksmiami

    May 4, 2017 at 12:04 am

    @Ohio Mom: I feel so much better having cut off Republicans from my circle. They are either too dumb or too selfish for me to want to be around.

  41. 41.

    SFAW

    May 4, 2017 at 12:09 am

    According to CNN, Fuckhead Number 2 (or is it Number 3?), Andrew McCarthy, is claiming they have the votes.

    As far as the hope of the Senate killing it: the Turtle will do what he has to do to get it through. Unless he suddenly became a decent human being, and I missed it.

    As far as the Rethugs paying a price in the Midterms: there may be a few, but more likely they’ll pay about as much of a price as they did for the 2013 shutdown. Or has the MSM suddenly decided to do their fucking jobs? (Among other reasons.)

  42. 42.

    SFAW

    May 4, 2017 at 12:16 am

    @Ohio Mom:

    Now I am thinking how painful it is going to be to spend time with someone who will think I’m silly for being upset about tomorrow’s vote.

    Well, you could ask him (assuming it’s a he, of course) what he thinks about it. If he responds as you suspect, then you might consider “remembering” a last-minute scheduling conflict (“Sorry! I forgot I have to plow the back 40! Can we reschedule for … oh, let’s see … never?”)

    Or, if you’re in a more confrontational mode: “Sorry! I don’t do brunch with morons, even if I am related to them.”

    Either way, I don’t envy you.

  43. 43.

    JMG

    May 4, 2017 at 6:33 am

    Murkowski of Alaska has said she is a no on this bill as well as Collins.

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