Florida Man: We Have Found a Superior Specimen Edition

A Tampa man, Andrew Lumish, spends his one day off a week doing something unusual: he cleans the dirty and neglected graves of veterans at cemeteries in the Tampa area.

TAMPA – The story of Andrew Lumish’s selfless and up until now anonymous service to veterans struck a chord. More than 8 million people around the world  have viewed the story on Facebook and on abcactionnews.com in just two days.

“I’ve gotten phone calls and messages from people I haven’t seen since kindergarten.  I’ve been on three radio shows across the country already this morning” said Lumish reeling from the reaction.

Among the more than 10,000 comments on Facebook,  Lumish is called a blessing, an inspiration, even a hero for his work cleaning old and often forgotten grave stones of veterans and their families at Cemeteries around the Tampa Bay Area.

Just a nice, positive story for the end of a busy and somewhat nerve wracking week.






216 replies
  1. 1
    TenguPhule says:

    A dirty thankless job. But someone had to do it.

  2. 2
    lollipopguild says:

    An actual real way to honor vets.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @TenguPhule: Yes. @lollipopguild: And yes.

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    rikyrah says:

    uh huh

    So, after giving millionaires and billionaires tax cuts, they’ll need to come for Social Security to ‘ make things right’.

    Uh huh

    Wall Street Journal‏Verified account @WSJ

    Opinion: Increasing Social Security eligibility age can offset revenue loss from tax cuts, writes Martin Feldstein

  5. 5
    Timurid says:

    @rikyrah:

    The solution to automation and a growing labor surplus? Force people to stay in the workforce longer!
    NEWCASTLE NEEDS MORE COAL GODDAMNIT!

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    TenguPhule says:

    @rikyrah: 2005, this time as farce.

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    efgoldman says:

    Damn. I saw the headline and immediately thought “what’s he stealing.” Especially in Florida.
    This fucking country full of assholes has made us too cynical.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Timurid: There is a huge problem coming fast with automation and what it is going to do to the labor force and the economy. We are in the 21st Century with an economic policy that is functionally structured around the mid 20th Century. We are in for a world of hurt and I don’t expect any of our elected and/or appointed officials to be of any help.

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    chopper says:

    @lollipopguild:

    wait, you mean saying “thank you for your service” isn’t enough?

  10. 10
    efgoldman says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    There is a huge problem coming fast with automation and what it is going to do to the labor force and the economy.

    Yup. The next big thing is trucking. You don’t think the self-driving cars are all about letting you read your favorite website during the morning commute, do you?

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    amk says:

    @rikyrah: Guess ‘their party’ didn’t listen to their keep the ebil gobinment’s hands off my SS poutraging rants.

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    skerry says:

    @rikyrah: We already did this under Reagan. It’s already 67 for people born 1960+.

  13. 13
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @efgoldman: Gotcha!

  14. 14
    Mnemosyne says:

    I’m tired and cranky and my asthma is acting up, but a bowl of matzoh ball soup helped. Even though the “matzoh balls” were really heavy, like eating chunks of polenta.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @skerry:

    That’s my retirement age — 67. How, exactly, am I supposed to plan for a further-out age when I’m 2 years away from 50 already?

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    efgoldman says:

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD):

    Fuck MSNBC

    I don’t know why anybody with two brain cells to rub together – including some people here – ever watches that excrescence.

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    TS says:

    I love visiting graveyards/cemeteries. They are such peaceful places and so full of history. Some are well looked after, some not. I can understand the pleasure it gives Mr Lumish to be there and to spend his time looking after the graves.

    I enjoy sitting and talking to the folks that are long gone – they always agree with my point of view and never answer back. Where I live, the early immigrants reserved the best part of Town to celebrate their ancestors. Many cemeteries are on the coast with magnificent views of the ocean. Just a small part of our heritage, that so far (touch wood) the developers have not been able to take away.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @efgoldman: No, no I do not.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD):

    Hugh Hewitt is still alive?

    And there’s no better way to get young people to watch your news channel than hiring elderly Nixon staffers.

  21. 21
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: Some rise, some sink, some rise, some sink.

    Also, we all float down here.

  22. 22
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @TenguPhule:

    But someone had to do it.

    No, that’s part of the point. No one had to do it. He chose to do it.

  23. 23
    Timurid says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    It’s insane how many people’s solutions to Big Problems involve entering the workforce earlier and leaving it later.
    “College costs too much? Working full time and going to school full time builds character!” “We can’t afford all these entitlements! Raise the eligibility age for Social Security and Medicare!”
    When the real crisis hits, they’re going to be trying to put out a wildfire with tanker trucks full of gasoline…

  24. 24
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: Who is dumb as a bag of hair.

  25. 25
    Sab says:

    Rachel Meadow has a Russian anti-Putin guy on who has been poisoned to the point of coma twice, and he’s still out there protesting. Brave! Vladimir Kara-Murray. Reminds me of Dr King and his people.Brave!

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    @Adam L Silverman: Yes, but it’s mighty fine hair.

  28. 28

    @Adam L Silverman: you know, we should do an intro to programming book book club here. Talking to computers is a very valuable skill for anybody.

  29. 29
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Timurid: And that doesn’t even count people that have done everything right and still managed to fall between the cracks or get hosed. Eventually something will have to give. And we can either plan for that day in order to manage the transition and mitigate the disruption or things can get really, really ugly. Care to guess which is more likely to happen?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Mnemosyne: My understanding is that simple chicken soup is what you want/need. You may have over-accessorized your soup.

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    amk says:

    beeb’s piece on future of the world.

    That economic stratification may lead to collapse on its own, on the other hand, came as more of a surprise to Motesharrei and his colleagues. Under this scenario, elites push society toward instability and eventual collapse by hoarding huge quantities of wealth and resources, and leaving little or none for commoners who vastly outnumber them yet support them with labour. Eventually, the working population crashes because the portion of wealth allocated to them is not enough, followed by collapse of the elites due to the absence of labour. The inequalities we see today both within and between countries already point to such disparities. For example, the top 10% of global income earners are responsible for almost as much total greenhouse gas emissions as the bottom 90% combined. Similarly, about half the world’s population lives on less than $3 per day.

    Too alarmist? Or foresight?

  32. 32
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Get with me offline at your convenience (no rush to do it tonight) and we’ll see what we can come up with.

  33. 33
    Timurid says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    And there’s a greater likelihood of Americans accepting sharia law than any of the obvious solutions (universal basic income, guaranteed employment, free higher/vocational education, etc.)…

  34. 34
    Mike in NC says:

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Andrew Lack is the piece of shit who had Matt Lauer grill Hillary Clinton about emails, right?

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    efgoldman says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Talking to computers is a very valuable skill for anybody.

    I talk to my computer every night.
    Oh, wait. You’re actually a person?

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    @Omnes Omnibus:

    You may have over-accessorized your soup.

    It’s California, deal.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @amk: In between.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    You may have over-accessorized your soup.

    That’s like saying you over-accessorized your wardrobe when you wear shoes to leave the house.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Timurid: Most likely.

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    trollhattan says:

    Silverman bait:

    The Trump administration is considering options to relocate national security aide Sebastian Gorka from the White House to another federal agency, the Daily Beast reports.

    One senior administration official told the Daily Beast that Gorka—a controversial figure in the Trump White House—is no longer apart of the day-to-day decisions on the National Security Council. Another official described Gorka’s departure as imminent. The White House is reportedly looking to move him to a position that does not require security clearance.

    Gorka stirred controversy when it was revealed he was involved with far-right group on Hungary that the State Department alleges was “under the direction of the Nazi Government of Germany” during WWII.

    One official told the Daily Beast that Gorka’s transfer has been “a pain in the ass.”

    Gorka also reportedly lied about his credentials, which includes a Ph.D in political science. According to Andrew Reynolds, a professor of political science at UNC who did extensive research on Gorka’s education, the national security aide’s Ph.D “is about as legitimate as if he had been awarded it by Trump University.”

    Aww, the alpha male might not be in charge. Bannon coalition unraveling? This is good news for John McCainthe planet.

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    Mike in NC says:

    We have friends who live in Land O Lakes, Florida. Yes, it’s a real place.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    My neighbors when I was a kid told me that matzoh ball soup cures everything. You’re not telling me that Mrs. Bloomgarden and Mrs. Hammerman lied to me, are you?

    Though if I wanted good matzoh ball soup, I should have gone to a deli and not a hipster cafe. Oh well.

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    Mary G says:

    @amk: Yeah, I think automation is going to be a huge deal, a game-changer on the order of the industrial revolution. The thing that Republicans will never, ever say out loud is that they think the world just doesn’t need as many people and getting the poor to die off as fast as possible, because they just aren’t going to need that much labor, is a feature, not a bug.

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    efgoldman says:

    @trollhattan:

    Aww, the alpha male might not be in charge. Bannon coalition unraveling?

    Having an open Nazi who also falsified his “academic credentials” and can’t get a security clearance is a bad look even for these bozos.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @amk:

    Eventually, the working population crashes because the portion of wealth allocated to them is not enough, followed by collapse of the elites due to the absence of labour.

    Well, that can’t be true, because Ayn Rand told me that the elites can vanish and take care of themselves. I’m sure David Koch knows how to scrub his own toilet and make meals from scratch.

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    @Mike in NC: I thought Minnesota was the Land O Lakes.

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    A Ghost to Most says:

    @TS:
    As a child, my mother was obsessed with our family tree (much harder precomputer), and her idea of a great vacation was visiting cemetery after cemetery. Hard for four rambunctious, bored kids to stay out of trouble.

    It takes a lot to get me in one today.

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    Mike in NC says:

    @trollhattan: This Gorka scumbag would be the ideal director of the House of Terror museum in Budapest, which deals with various fascist movements. We didn’t have the opportunity to visit it while there, but no doubt they will some day add a Trump exhibit.

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    @Mnemosyne: if he doesn’t, I’m sure he can hire one of Peter Thiel’s blonde rentboys with some Bitcoins.

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    J R in WV says:

    @efgoldman:

    What commute? Who’s going to be going to work? Silly old boy!!!

  52. 52

    @trollhattan: What is this stupid fascination with the Greek alphabet?

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    jacy says:

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD):

    At one point, network management also floated moving Joy-Ann Reid’s popular weekend program AM Joy to the afternoon to serve as a lead-in for Hewitt and help jumpstart his ratings, but that plan has seemingly been dropped.

    In what backwards, Upsidedown, Bizarro world would that ever make sense? I’m pretty sure that viewership would not overlap.

  54. 54
    lollipopguild says:

    @amk: There were all of those books and movies in the 60’s and 70’s about overpopulation and people starving to death, “Soylent Green is people” that never happened. there was a book in the 90’s about the “Coming war with Japan” that never happened. You can also look at countries around the planet that are coming apart and wonder how quickly that might happen here. With tRump and friends in charge and conservatives who are insane and being fed a daily dose of insanity by the right wing media I have to say that our country coming apart like a novel or a movie looks a lot more likely than before Nov. 2016. Things can also get better. On June 1 1940 most people would have bet that the English were going to go down under the Nazi bootheel just like the French. It did not happen and you can make a strong case that Hitler started losing the war in the summer of 1940. Good stuff can happen too.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    I’m sure David Koch knows how to scrub his own toilet and make meals from scratch.

    I’m pretty sure I saw an auto-cleaning toilet somewhere.

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    efgoldman says:

    @A Ghost to Most:

    It takes a lot to get me in one today.

    There’s one way for sure

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    Elie says:

    @trollhattan:

    We’ll see… Bannon has gone to ground recently and we don’t know for sure if his influence is completely gone or just underground and more sneaky. That is actually more dangerous. I am hoping that this is real — that he is not as smart as he thought. That said, Breitbart has not flipped on Trump as you might expect if Bannon was really subtracted — so I am suspicious that this is not fully what it seems. And I consider Bannon’s ideology to be very dangerous and subversive. Sorry, but I am not fully buying in to the “word” that he is outa there. I think Bannon has the capacity for patience and a long game.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @trollhattan: I’ve already seen it. The problem they’re going to have is two fold: 1) Because he can’t put in for a clearance, let alone get one, there are no positions in DOD, the Intel Community, DOJ/FBI, and/or DHS that he could get. Every single one would require a TS/SCI. 2) Apparently the White House folks are trying to find a landing pad, intimated as finding him an SES position somewhere, because the President likes him because the President likes the aggressive way he defends the Administration on cable news. And here’s where the problem comes in: he doesn’t have the credentials to be an SES. It requires a certain amount of time in the next highest grade – GS 15, plus it requires an entire set of certifications that result from attending very specific courses. Gorka has none of those.

    There is also an additional potential problem for him. The DOJ attorney arguing an immigration case in front of the Supreme Court this past week has asserted that the Administration’s/the government’s position is that any lie, omission, or factual inaccuracy on one’s immigration and naturalization paperwork makes the grant of citizenship invalid and should lead to citizenship being stripped from naturalized Americans. While a cross section of the Supremes (Roberts, Kennedy, Sotomayor, Breyer, and Kagan) didn’t seem to be buying it, if the government wins this case, based on the Trump Administration’s own legal standards for naturalization, Gorka’s citizenship is forfeit.

    Couldn’t happen to a nicer neo-NAZI.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @efgoldman: Are you saying that chicken soup requires matzoh?

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    debbie says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    Whoever made the matzoh balls overstirred the mix.

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    @efgoldman: Japan? Japanese restaurant? Germany?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @jacy:

    In what backwards, Upsidedown, Bizarro world would that ever make sense?

    In the world where you’re trying to tank Joy’s ratings so you have an excuse to fire her.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @efgoldman: Lawrence O’Donnell and Rachel Maddow.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Are you saying that chicken soup requires matzoh?

    Matzoh balls ain’t matzoh. no more than cookies are flour

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @schrodingers_cat: Are you really serious?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @A Ghost to Most: Hearse? Urn? Casket? 3 to 1 herringbone weave shroud? Ossuary? Any of those work?

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    A Ghost to Most says:

    @efgoldman:
    Not at all: burn me and scatter my ashes in the San Juan mountains of Colorado

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    Jeffro says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    There is a huge problem coming fast with automation and what it is going to do to the labor force and the economy. We are in the 21st Century with an economic policy that is functionally structured around the mid 20th Century. We are in for a world of hurt and I don’t expect any of our elected and/or appointed officials to be of any help.

    It’s not just a coming problem, it’s here. It’s been here for 20+ years.

    Just as we (society) should have had a conversation back in the 80s and 90s about how if we’re gonna open up to globalization, we need to skim the profits and use it to help folks retrain…we’re about to not have a conversation that’s sorely needed about how if we’re going to pursue automation to the Nth degree, we need to guarantee a minimum wage/housing/health care for all citizens.

    Maybe start with someone smart, with a big-picture perspective, reminding the world’s fortunate class that they can automate shit all they want and eliminate those pesky labor costs…but those pesky laborers are still there. And as life gets easier here on ol’ planet Earth, maybe the gazillionaires of the world could spring for basic income/benefits?

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    efgoldman says:

    @opiejeanne:

    Lawrence O’Donnell and Rachel Maddow.

    Anybody that has Uncle Pat Goebbels on as a regular doesn’t get my eyeballs, no matter how smart she is.

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    jacy says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    I am so glad I cut the cord in November. It’s weird not having a TV, but I’m sure it’s better for my blood pressure.

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    @Adam L Silverman:

    if the government wins this case, based on the Trump Administration’s own legal standards for naturalization, Gorka’s citizenship is forfeit.

    As the First Lady’s as well.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @lollipopguild:

    Aha, you’ve given me an opportunity to hop up on one of my soapboxes! Those who’ve already seen this soapbox can feel free to scroll on by.

    The thing about the whole “overpopulation” genre is that the (mostly) male writers who came up with it had no clue that when women were offered an inexpensive, widely available, and highly effective form of contraception with the Pill, women would jump on that immediately and refuse to let go.

    Turns out that the vast majority of women don’t want more than two kids. Some only want one. Some want none. But because such a simple form of contraception didn’t exist, science fiction writers couldn’t picture women not only having fewer children, but wanting fewer.

    That whole genre ran aground on the shoals of the Pill, and women never looked back.

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    lollipopguild says:

    @efgoldman: “Pitchfork Pat”? He is just a harmless little fuzzball-just like rush and rupert.

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    rikyrah says:

    Conservatives Angry That Biased Media Accurately Reports Who Gets Trump Tax Cuts

    By Jonathan Chait

    During his presidential campaign, Donald Trump promised that he would ultimately support a plan that would raise taxes on high-income earners,including himself. “It’s going to cost me a fortune, which is actually true,” he said at one point, going out of his way to emphasize that this promise was one of his rare, non-false claims (“which is actually true”). His Treasury secretary later promised
    that the Trump tax plan would not provide high-income earners with net tax reduction. So when Trump unveiled his tax plan this week, the most important revelation was that Trump’s promise was not actually true. His plan describes a massive tax cut for the rich.

    ………………………………….

    Cutting taxes on affluent people has been the Republican Party’s number-one policy objective for more than a quarter century. Republicans are not merely interested in cutting taxes on the whole, they take special exception to the most progressive ones — which is why they ignore regressive taxes, like the payroll tax, while proposing the deepest cuts for taxation of capital income. They have hewed relentlessly to this goal during recessions and booms, in the minority and in the majority, and they believe in this policy for a combination of moral and economic reasons.

    However, since this policy is highly unpopular with the public, Republicans have grown habituated to obscuring this intent. Their messaging is built around lying about, or obscuring, the distributional impact of their tax, policies. In the past, they have had a lot of success bullying the mainstream news media into treating the distributional impact of their policies as a contested question of partisan spin, rather than something that can be measured in fairly straightforward fashion.
    So, now that Republicans have rolled out another massively regressive tax cut, they’re going to spend a lot of time insisting that the news media should not report this fact.

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    debbie says:

    @Mike in NC:

    You might enjoy this tweet about Seb’s education:

    https://twitter.com/bjimd/status/858099649395163136

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    @Jeffro:

    but those pesky laborers are still there

    …and not an insignificant portion are armed.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @TS: They have been able to take away lots of cemeteries; some have been paved over for parking lots despite protests from local historians, many have been dug up and moved because a developer needed the land. I’m talking about really old cemeteries on the East Coast. Genealogists can tell you all about the loss of these places.
    The state of Missouri does at least one thing correctly. Those family cemeteries on farms with big fences to keep the cows in, if you need to get in to visit the graves the sheriff will come out and escort you onto the property if the owner tries to keep you out. Access is guaranteed but it’s polite to ask first if you can find someone to ask.

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    lollipopguild says:

    @Mnemosyne: Remember “Logan’s Run”? Ah good times. You are correct.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The DOJ attorney arguing an immigration case in front of the Supreme Court this past week has asserted that the Administration’s/the government’s position is that any lie, omission, or factual inaccuracy on one’s immigration and naturalization paperwork makes the grant of citizenship invalid

    We talked about this last night, though. Multiple appeals courts have found against the government’s position; only one has found in favor. And as you’ve said, the majority, including Roberts, seem highly skeptical.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Mnemosyne: I didn’t realize he was elderly. I thought the white hair was an affectation. Or that he’s an albino.

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    rikyrah says:

    Stephen Wolf

    @PoliticsWolf

    NC GOP passed a reverse court-packing law that eliminates the seats of retiring GOP judges so the Dem governor can’t replace them with Dems pic.twitter.com/f9HhsLZCdg

    Follow
    Stephen Wolf

    @PoliticsWolf

    This GOP power grab is so blatantly undemocratic that 1 of the retiring REPUBLICAN judges resigned a month early so a Dem could replace him https://twitter.com/PoliticsWolf/status/858053136119943169
    3:21 PM – 28 Apr 2017

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @lollipopguild:

    We actually watched “Logan’s Run” on TCM a few years ago. That is one trippy 70s movie, and I’m astounded that anyone thought Michael York could pass for 30.

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    efgoldman says:

    @debbie:

    Whoever made the matzoh balls overstirred the mix

    My paternal grandmother made hers from scratch. From year to year they might be huge and fluffy, or little tiny cannonballs.

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    Louise B. says:

    Our own David Anderson/Richard Mayhew got a shout-out at The Incidental Economist – a good healthcare economics blog.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jeffro: No argument here, but it is going to accelerate very quickly and it is going to move into the white collar, skilled positions that it has not effected so far.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @opiejeanne:

    The main reason I remember who Hugh Hewitt is is that he used to be the head curator at the Nixon Library and they had an infamous display that explained that Watergate was a fake scandal made up by the media.

    I’m sure there are pictures online somewhere. When the National Archives took over, they dismantled that shit.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Yep. But based on the questioning by the Justices I don’t think the government is going to win this case.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    In the world where you’re trying to tank Joy’s ratings

    No commercial TV network is going to do that. They get paid on numbers of eyeballs.

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    @lollipopguild: 🤖🤖protein from the sea🤖🤖

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    weaselone says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

    …and not an insignificant portion are armed.

    Not a problem. The robotic legions will make quick work of all those unwilling to starve peacefully out of site.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @efgoldman:

    Don’t be naive, Kay.

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    @opiejeanne: They’ve been finding bones at the old cemetary on Fort Moore hill in downtown LA for the last 80 years. I guess they found the most when they dug out the route for the Hollywood freeway though downtown(aka ‘the slot’).

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    efgoldman says:

    @lollipopguild:

    “Pitchfork Pat”? He is just a harmless little fuzzball

    No Nazi with a [relatively] big platform is “harmless”.

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    Iron City says:

    @Adam L Silverman: You do not need a TS/SCI clearance for a lot of federal jobs and you do not need to be a GS-15 or equal to get an SES. The smart people stayed 15s or equal (that 15 is only the General Schedule, there are other pay plans at different agencies that implemented pay banding and other ways of describing levels of work) because the SES compensation has a big bonus component to it that can and is easily manipulated by management, but that had to happen because the regular compensation is up against a ceiling tied to salaries of political appointees and Congress.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Same thing. Harry Harrison could not picture a world where women would voluntarily have fewer children. Hell, clamor for the opportunity!

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    lollipopguild says:

    @Mnemosyne: Just look at “Grease” with all of the actors playing high school students. LOL!

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    @opiejeanne:

    Or that he’s an albino.

    I think the term of art is “ambulatory cheesecake sculpture”.

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    amk says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    white collar, skilled positions that it has not effected so far.

    It’s already here, my friend.

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    Kropadope says:

    @rikyrah: Makes sense. Bullying the MSM into treating their insanity as plausible is the greatest weapon Republicans have.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    There is also an additional potential problem for him. The DOJ attorney arguing an immigration case in front of the Supreme Court this past week has asserted that the Administration’s/the government’s position is that any lie, omission, or factual inaccuracy on one’s immigration and naturalization paperwork makes the grant of citizenship invalid and should lead to citizenship being stripped from naturalized Americans. While a cross section of the Supremes (Roberts, Kennedy, Sotomayor, Breyer, and Kagan) didn’t seem to be buying it, if the government wins this case, based on the Trump Administration’s own legal standards for naturalization, Gorka’s citizenship is forfeit.

    Couldn’t happen to a nicer neo-NAZI.

    And wouldn’t that be a shame? (Das ist schade.)

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    lollipopguild says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Be like Euell Gibbons and eat tree bark or vinyl siding.

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    @Mnemosyne: The Libraries can be pretty bad while the President is still alive. I hope that since both of the Reagans are rotting in hell, the Reagan library will more historically accurate.

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    @Mnemosyne: I was just quoting the robot from Logan’s Run.

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    rikyrah says:

    Sahil Kapur

    @sahilkapur

    FRED UPTON, the GOP’s point man for dozens of Obamacare repeal votes, says he’s “not comfortable” with the AHCA. https://bloom.bg/2pu4LGq

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    Sahil Kapur

    @sahilkapur

    Losing Fred Upton on an Obamacare repeal bill would be like losing Paul Ryan on a tax-cut bill. https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/858054643204706306
    3:27 PM – 28 Apr 2017

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    debbie says:

    @efgoldman:

    All I do is follow the instructions on the box and they’re perfect. I just keep forgetting how much they expand while cooking.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @debbie: There is a larger issue here. This is the third one of these people I know of with bogus credentials who have wormed their way into a contact with the US military and then because of that, which essentially laundered their credentials clean, continued to do so. I got one fired – took two years. The second, despite having an iron clad case, I and my colleagues couldn’t get rid of him and, ultimately, the SES who is protecting him (because he hired him outside of the central vetting the rest of us had to go through and the SES is therefore covering his own ass) had to create a Title 5 (general schedule) position for him undo an Office of Personnel Management (OPM) code that requires no credentials for the actual position. He too has a dubious immigration history and we also turned him in as a counterintelligence risk.

    Back to Gorka: The Marshall Center has come out and indicated he really didn’t do anything there and was never an actual instructor there. He did have a Title 10 (Excepted Service – Academic/AD, most likely at the O3/assistant professor rank at National Defense University’s College of International Security Affairs (NDU CISA). From there he had an externally funded, named professorship at Marine Corps University. It has now been reported that one of his wife’s cousins is the external funder and this was not disclosed to the MCU Foundation, which was handling the funding for the position. MCU has also distanced itself from him. So he’s managed to worm his way into three different Professional Military Education (PME) affiliations/positions with dubious credentials.

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    khead says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The article separated it into two issues: economic and ecological. Both matter, but many of the economic issues could actually be somewhat fixed with some political will and action (yeah, yeah I know – good luck).

    The ecological? Not so much. You can’t pass a law to lift the local water table or lower the tidal push in Miami and Manhattan. Pretty sure the ecological factors will cause much more global instability.

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    sharl says:

    All this dragging of NatSec studmuffin DOCTOR Sebastian Gorka is quite distressing. Only just today I discovered the existence of the twitter hashtag #GorkaCharts – it’s the best way to tour his dissertation without actually trying to read the thing.
    Please don’t take this away from me. 😢

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    clay says:

    Hey all, I don’t know if y’all are aware, but W. Kamau Bell’s show returns to CNN this weekend.

    I know CNN is shit-on-a-cracker, but Bell’s show is truly excellent. Check it out.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @efgoldman: Sorry, been a busy week and I was basically only around to clear people out of moderation after I did my Monday evening post. Had a tasker to finish by Tuesday, then on Wednesday afternoon I agreed to handle a short suspense tasker to help my boss out. It was due this afternoon. Then I spent several hours this afternoon/evening fighting the never ending war against dog hair. Including steam mopping the entire house. And the big toe on my right foot… 😧

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    debbie says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I did enjoy the crack about correspondence school.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: Young Jenny Agutter for the win!

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    @khead:

    You can’t pass a law to lift the local water table or lower the tidal push in Miami and Manhattan.

    True, but Trump will issue an Executive Order. Problem solved.

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    Mary G says:

    @opiejeanne: I no longer consider 61 elderly, which my age and Hugh Hewitt’s. He’s about two months younger than I am. He’s one of those people who goes gray in the hair very early. He was on the LA PBS station years ago and was rapidly going gray then.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Iron City: My understanding from reading the OPM handbook I have here on my desktop is that you have to have specific certifications to qualify as an SES. And every SES announcement I’ve ever seen on USAJOBS has always required time in lower grade. Of course I’m only ever looking at the DOD ones, so it is possible that other agencies have different requirements.

    That said: I know there are a lot of government jobs that don’t require TS/SCI clearances. There are NO, NADA, ZIPPO, BUPKIS government jobs dealing with terrorism, counterterrorism, asymmetric, irregular, and/or unconventional warfare – outside of some of the faculty positions at the Professional Military Education schoolhouses (which he won’t qualify for now that it is out in the open that his academic credentials are bogus), which is what Gorka claims are his areas of expertise that do not require a TS/SCI. I know this because I am someone with significant, specific expertise in terrorism, counterterrorism, asymmetric, irregular, and unconventional warfare.

    So it is certainly possible that they could place Gorka at the Food and Drug Administration or NOAA or the FCC pushing paper. But not only would that be silly (though it would be somewhat of an appropriate punishment), it is also not something Gorka is going to be willing to take.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @efgoldman No Nazi is ever harmless.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    Mrs J had a tubal ligation at about age 27 or 28 to be able to stop taking hormones, which upset her somewhat. Didn’t want any kids, which was OK with me. So we did our part to reduce population growth!

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    opiejeanne says:

    @efgoldman: I have never seen him on her show; I thought she kicked him to the curb a while back but I don’t like her as much as my husband does. I do like O’Donnell a lot.

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    lollipopguild says:

    @Adam L Silverman: She was also very good in “Walkabout”.

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    seaboogie says:

    @Adam L Silverman: and I thought John meant you, for the yeoman’s work you do for this joint!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @amk: Yes, but it is not fully here in the US yet. No one in the US in a policy position cares about white collar workers in Japan. That would just be crazy!

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    amk says:

    @khead: twitler has issued yet another dicktat (sic) to drill arctic just to solve that danged water table problem.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @khead:

    You can’t pass a law to lift the local water table or lower the tidal push in Miami and Manhattan.

    Actually you can, but the water table and the tidal push will just ignore it. Even if they send the US Marshals to enforce it.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @sharl: I read the whole thing.

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    Mike in NC says:

    @Mary G: My dad’s hair turned gray while he was in his late 20s, but it might have had something to do with all the Japanese in the Philippines shooting at him.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @jacy: We are choosy about what we watch: lots of baseball, sitcoms, The Expanse. Most of the time we record Rachel and O’Donnell and my husband watches her when I’m doing something else.

    OTOH, Twitter has been fairly poisonous recently. I’m only visiting social sites to post a photo or a funny video and leaving, hit and run. This is my happy place, Balloon Juice.

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    amk says:

    OT… or not.

    .@realDonaldTrump if you think being President is hard, you should try watching you being President.— Gord Macey (@GordMacey) April 28, 2017

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @debbie: Yep, this appears to be an issue. And it is going to be a huge one. The Marshall Center issued a statement several months ago distancing itself from Gorka. In that statement they indicated he was not an instructor there and did not have a permanent, residential position. So if he wasn’t actually in Garmisch at the Marshall Center and he wasn’t back in Hungary at Corvinus University, where exactly was he for those three or four years. And what exactly was he actually doing?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @lollipopguild: Never seen it. Am a fan of American Werewolf in London.

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    lollipopguild says:

    @amk: Perfect!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @seaboogie: Huh? I am confused.

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    sharl says:

    @Adam L Silverman: O…M…G. What other horrible tasks does your job entail?

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    efgoldman says:

    @lollipopguild:

    Be like Euell Gibbons and eat tree bark or vinyl siding.

    Nomnomnom

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Mnemosyne: Aldous Huxley did, but he may be the only major exception. I seem to remember the women doing the Malthusian exercise (It’s been 50 years since I read it so I’m not sure that’s what he called it).
    The main character of Brave New World was unusual in that his mother gave birth to him rather than having him decanted and raised in a creche because she was some sort of hippie and lived on a preserve for such people.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    How, exactly, am I supposed to plan for a further-out age when I’m 2 years away from 50 already?

    The important thing is that you still have great legs

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    efgoldman says:

    @debbie:

    All I do is follow the instructions on the box and they’re perfect.

    For a Recovering Catholic Episcopalian, mrs efg does a really good job

    ETA: Don’t you find some of the mixes very salty?

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    Librarian says:

    @efgoldman: She hasn’t had Pat on her show in several years.

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    Jake the antisoshul soshulist says:

    @efgoldman:

    Cremation. “It’s better to burn out than to fade away.”
    Or as Curly Fine would have it,”Hot stake is better than cold chop”.

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    amk says:

    another OT … or trolling.

    Here's a pic of Obama kitesurfing across the tears you shed over his $400,000 fee for giving a speech pic.twitter.com/0zzr0Fbqf1— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) April 27, 2017

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @sharl: If I tell you I have to shoot someone…//

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    danielx says:

    @amk:

    I’m starting to see that business about how only the clinically depressed have a realistic view of the world….

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    efgoldman says:

    @sharl:

    Please don’t take this away from me.

    David Nexon over at LG&M did a major multi-part fsking of his “dissertation.” It was tl:dr for me, but the one clear impression I got is I would have failed high school AP English if I had written like that.

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    lollipopguild says:

    @efgoldman: My wife very early in her working career had a boss who was Catholic on all of the Christian holidays and Jewish on all of the Jewish holidays. A very good Jewish-Catholic.

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    danielx says:

    @opiejeanne:

    This is my happy place, Balloon Juice.

    Uh…have you considered therapy?

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    efgoldman says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Sorry, been a busy week

    You need to get your priorities in order. Nothing is more important than taking care of ravening hordes of Balloon Juice jackals!

    Including steam mopping the entire house. And the big toe on my right foot… 😧

    You’ve been taking housecleaning lessons from Cole!

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    danielx says:

    @lollipopguild:

    I once dated a Jewish Wiccan who referred to herself as Jewitch first class.

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    amk says:

    @danielx: If you are a liberal, you are clinically depressed for the bj rotating tag.

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    Shalimar says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Mack Reynolds was writing science fiction about the coming huge automation/labor problem as far back as the early 1960s.

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    lollipopguild says:

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Yep, he was supposed to be a high school kid. Also “Kelly’s Heroes” most american soldiers in Europe were in their late teens or early 20’s, most of the actors in that film were late 30’s to 40’s.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    it is also not something Gorka is going to be willing to take.

    Maybe he’d be willing to teach Central European languages to his fellow inmates.

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    jacy says:

    @J R in WV:

    My daughter is 25 and a k-3 teacher. She is quite certain she does not want to have children, but when she tells people this, they are aghast. They always ask her why. She tells them, “I already have more kids than I need.” She is auntie to her best friend’s 2 (they live together in what’s basically a non-lesbian gay marriage), and she’s quite happy with it.

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    @efgoldman: when I was a freshman in high school, the teacher failed her entire AP English class, even the ones who got the max (5?) on the official test. She was fired.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @efgoldman: Yep.

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    rikyrah says:

    Authentic ‘Southside with You’ Premieres on Netflix

    April 28th 2017

    “Southside With You” tells the legendary love story between Michelle and Barack Obama before we came to know them as our President and First Lady and, frankly, I cannot handle not knowing even more of it, having now seen the film. I want the wedding and everything leading up to it – their first real fight and the make-up session, the birth of their first child, and then their second, etc. “Southside With You” is a tale of a love that shows how some folks are just meant to be. If The Obamas actual relationship dynamic has anywhere near the amount of chemistry that was sparking off the screen in this satisfying romance drama, there is no question about why, together, they have been able to literally take over the world.

    Writer and director Richard Tanne has created a film with an undeniably saccharine, feel-good vibe, which manages to depict the cute courtship, starting with a trip to the museum in which they bond over their mutual love for poet Gwendolyn Brooks, and have a deep conversation about the artwork of Ernie Barnes. The date draws to a close at Baskin Robbins after an intense and awkward scene involving the pair running into their co-workers at a screening of Spike Lee’s “Do The Right Thing.” This all amounts to authenticity–a necessary component for a biopic, which “Southside With You” is, in part. As President and First Lady, Barack Obama and Michelle Obama (nee Robinson) were commanding real-life presences and many important film elements converge to a render a pitch perfect recapitulation of the late 1980s through a Black American lens. Most noteworthy, the subtle, yet demonstrably fastidious attention given to the sonic and set design elements necessary to ensconce the viewer in a Chicago summer, in 1989.

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    Librarian says:

    @Shalimar: There’s also a Twilight Zone episode about it.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Actually you can

    Hasn’t Governor Valdemort done something like that?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @danielx: Or drugs?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @efgoldman: I kept digging you all out of moderation even if I didn’t have time to post or comment much.

    As for the steam mop: decisions were made, actions were taken. No one was spared.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    And what exactly was he actually doing?

    Probably something like smuggling cigarettes – or women.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Shalimar: I got that it was and is being covered in sci-fi. It is not being covered by policy makers that could actually do something about it. I appreciate the work of the former. We all live or die based on the work of the latter.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    D’oh! I got my dystopian overpopulation fiction mixed up — Harrison wrote Make Room, Make Room! which got turned into Soylent Green.

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    jacy says:

    @opiejeanne:

    I’m thinking of eventually subscribing to Playstation Vue, but right now I’m content with Hulu, Netflix, and Amazon Prime on my phone. And if there’s a series I have to see (love The Expanse) I can just buy the season. I gave my TV to my mom, so it’s just the phone for me, or the computer if I’m in the office. It’s weird having to seek something out instead of just having it on — but I watch a lot less stuff that I really didn’t want to see. And no more cable news for me, or news at all. I figure if I need to know about something, it’ll come through Facebook or Balloon Juice.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @efgoldman: I’m not sure the inmates would be happy about that. Also: cruel and unusual punishment.

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    Shalimar says:

    @Librarian: I like Reynolds’ writing. His near-future worlds always included guaranteed monthly income for everyone. People only worked at what they wanted to do.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @efgoldman: I have no idea.

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    danielx says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    That would be the second choice.

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    rikyrah says:

    Ben Wikler‏Verified account @benwikler

    Folks don’t realize how close the GOP is to repealing the affordable care act right now. 1/

    Ben Wikler‏Verified account @benwikler 3h3 hours ago
    Replying to @benwikler

    Unlike last time, they have the Freedom Caucus—and not only that, the Koch brothers and conservative movement apparatus is on board 2/

    Ben Wikler‏Verified account @benwikler

    Simply because there’s so damn much else going on, and because Trump isn’t talking about it, this isn’t the by-far-#1 story yet—but 3/

    Ben Wikler‏Verified account @benwikler 3h3 hours ago
    Replying to @benwikler

    if the GOP does pull the votes together, they’ll move very quickly. And the Senate could move faster than one would imagine. Moreover, 4/

    Ben Wikler‏Verified account @benwikler 3h3 hours ago

    The GOP has something to pull in moderates: $150 billion. To fund “high risk pools,” which don’t work, but that’s a lot of dough. 5/

    Ben Wikler‏Verified account @benwikler 3h3 hours ago

    House GOP leadership is spending this weekend intensively negotiating to get moderate Rs on board. They’re close. 6/

    Ben Wikler‏Verified account @benwikler 3h3 hours ago

    The only thing that will stop the House moderates from shredding health care is massive pressure from their constituents. Pronto. 7/

    Ben Wikler‏Verified account @benwikler 3h3 hours ago

    House Republicans need to feel that they’ll lose their jobs if they vote for this bill. Full stop. And by rights, they SHOULD over this.

    Ben Wikler‏Verified account @benwikler 3h3 hours ago

    The new AHCA bill is even worse than the old one. Shreds protections for people with preexisting conditions. Vicious, dangerous, needless.

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    efgoldman says:

    @lollipopguild:

    A very good Jewish-Catholic.

    When our daughter was still at home, mrs efg wanted to make sure she knew all the traditions, so we did the same. Our seders were very eclectic: My (Jewish) parent, her (Catholic) parents, a wonderful friend who’d been thrown out of Catholic seminary when he admitted he was gay, a couple (friends) he was white bread protestant from upstate NY, converted to Muslim, she grew up in a family of snake-handlers in Arizona and was now Buddhist; the assistant priest from mrs efg’s church who was one of the first women in MA to get same-sex married…..
    It was a lot like this place.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Mnemosyne: I remember that, but I forgot him.

    Disney held one of their character proms at the Nixon museum. My youngest said it was a nice facility. I’ve never been.

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    efgoldman says:

    @danielx:

    have you considered therapy?

    Hanging around here is way cheaper, and covered by most insurance.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Librarian:

    Hell, you can go back to Chaplin’s Modern Problems. It’s not a new worry, and yet nothing has gotten done.

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    debbie says:

    @efgoldman:

    I’m not a fan of salt, but I don’t use the sodium-free version of the Manischevitz mix. That’s like warmed-up styrofoam.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @opiejeanne:

    G’s been there — he likes presidential libraries, and he’s fascinated by Watergate. He kind of regrets missing his chance to mock the Hewitt version of Watergate.

    I’ve been to the Reagan Library to see a Giant Evil Corporation museum exhibit. It was interesting to see the forces at work in Reagan’s election even though I don’t and never will agree with the solutions those assholes came up with.

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    debbie says:

    @efgoldman:

    We were reform, so we celebrated everything. My grandmother did think my grandfather carried it a bit too far when he sang happy birthday to Christ at Christmas Dinner. I think it was the Jack Daniels that was signing.

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    efgoldman says:

    @rikyrah:

    The GOP has something to pull in moderates: $150 billion. To fund “high risk pools,” which don’t work, but that’s a lot of dough.

    So they’ll spend MORE money just to fuck people over.
    Pathological.

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    chris says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Gorka was running his own rightwing party in Hungary. I read that on an English/Hungarian website (which I can’t find now) that was linked in the comments here maybe two weeks ago.

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    Felonius Monk says:

    @efgoldman:

    but the one clear impression I got is I would have failed high school AP English if I had written like that.

    At times it can even be difficult to tell which Gorka is doing the talking. Several passages of Sebastian’s 2007 dissertation, on the rise of radical Islam, appeared almost verbatim two years earlier in an article for the conservative journal Human Events. The byline over an online version of the article, “ccornell,” links to an author page for Katharine Cornell — the maiden name of Katharine Gorka.

    The dissertation, written for Sebastian’s doctorate in political science from Corvinus University of Budapest, does not credit either a Katharine Cornell or Katharine Gorka in its endnotes.

    Ah, the old Plagiarism gambit.

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    efgoldman says:

    @debbie:

    I don’t use the sodium-free version of the Manischevitz mix. That’s like warmed-up styrofoam.

    I bought the Streit’s the other week. It has about a third less according to the panel.
    You can always add more; you can’t take it out.

    ETA: In this part of Northern RI, the chain markets barely acknowledge that Jewish ethnic food exists. The section in my local Stop & Shop is literally two feet wide of shelf space – just before Passover.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Felonius Monk:

    It’s not plagiarism if you steal it from your wife, right?

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    opiejeanne says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: The flood of 1862 destroyed the town of Agua Mansa, and while few people in town died in the flood, the cemetery with about 300 graves was nearly destroyed. It was the largest population center between New Mexico and the Pacific, according to the local historians.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @chris: Yes, I know. But the time that he’s supposed to be doing this doctorate at Corvinus in Hungary is the time that he’s also supposed to be in Garmisch at the Marshall Center. If he wasn’t a full time faculty member and didn’t have any real instructional duties and wasn’t actually in Garmisch and he wasn’t back in Hungary at Corvinus as a student, then where was he during this time period?

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    Lyrebird says:

    fsilverm@Adam L Silverman:

    I know there are a lot of government jobs that don’t require TS/SCI clearances…

    But isn’t there a Federal hiring freeze on those?
    (laughs somewhat bitterly but not as bitterly as she would laugh without the offer of a temporary position that came through a week ago…)

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @efgoldman:

    Back in college, one of my friends who was from NYC was shocked to discover that the Latin market that was the only one within walking distance of campus had NO Jewish food. At all. Even at Passover.

    I think he eventually found someone to take him to a supermarket in another neighborhood, but he had to survive on kosher-for-Passover candy for a few days.

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    chris says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Heh,learning tradecraft at FSBU?

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Mary G: Heck, I’m 67. You two are just kids.

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    Ruckus says:

    @chopper:
    Haven’t read the thread and can’t speak for my fellow vets but for me, if I never hear another person, well meaning or not, thank me for my service, it would be just fine. I don’t need thanks, I need what the government promised me when I enlisted. Take that away and the next “Thanks for your service,” will have to be pried out of the persons ass.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Lyrebird: The hiring freeze was lifted about about ten days or so ago – depending on when the paperwork went through. It only counted for executive branch jobs and excepted service (Title 10 uniformed military, Title 10 intelligence, and Title 10 academic) were exempted, though my understanding is that at least on the Army side TRADOC froze the academic searches at the schools within Training and Doctrine Command. That said guidance was handed down with the lifting of the freeze that all executive branch departments, bureaus, agencies, offices, etc should exercise discretion in filling positions in the attempt to streamline and eliminate wasteful spending. So, for instance, Secretary Tillerson has kept the freeze in place for State and, today, released a truly bizarre outline for eliminating 2,300 State Department positions. This is absolutely bugfuck nuts!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @chris: Doubtful. He has no tradecraft.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    So, for instance, Secretary Tillerson has kept the freeze in place for State and, today, released a truly bizarre outline for eliminating 2,300 State Department positions.

    That’s what Tillerson would do if he did a hostile takeover of another company — mass layoffs, cut expenses to the bone, extract as much cash from it as he can, and then sell it to the next sucker.

    The scary question is, who is he picturing doing the buying once he’s done? 🤔

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    Lyrebird says:

    @debbie: That’s what me and the kiddo do, without drinking, when we’re with the practicing-Christian side of the family in December! Helps that 1) “Happy Birthday” is a song the kid learned very early and 2) that side of the family is very glad to see any gestures towards what for them is the meaning of the holiday… they take their faith seriously in a Jimmy Carter or Heifer Project kind of way, nothing like the creeps on TV who use it to harm others.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    the Latin market that was the only one within walking distance of campus had NO Jewish food.

    Yeah, but that was an ethnic market. I wouldn’t expect, for instance, the Asian markets or Portuguese markets here to have any, either. But Stop & Shop is a national chain (also Giant and Food Lion, and others). The “Asian” section is a whole row. Some of it is almost authentic.

    ETA: Nobody could get him to Fairfax?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: Putin wants State curtailed in general and USAID curtailed in specific. It is USAID that does the civil society building work in the former Soviet republics and a lot of other places. It is USAID officers who are in charge of handling refugees in places where Russia would like to exacerbate refugee flows to achieve his own ends. Such as in Syria. What Tillerson is proposing would destroy USAID. It was difficult enough for Secretary Clinton to bring USAID more fully under the State Department. There was a lot of heartburn and trouble and unhappiness on the USAID side of the foreign service when that was done. And that wasn’t completely absorbing USAID and then gutting the USAID officers and curtailing their mission.

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    Lyrebird says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Okay let’s see if I can do strikethrough here…

    guidance was handed down with the lifting of the freeze that all executive branch departments, bureaus, agencies, offices, etc should exercise discretion in filling positions slow-walk as much as possible in the attempt to streamline and eliminate wasteful spendingsilence dissent and cripple out-of-favor agencies. So, for instance, Secretary Tillerson has kept the freeze in place for State and, today, released a truly bizarre outline for eliminating 2,300 State Department positions because with globe-trotting, glib-talking Jared on the job and some carriers to send here and there, who effing needs diplomacy?.

    Fix’t.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Jeffro:
    Back in the early 90s I had machines that could run unattended. One for weeks at a time. Another for about 8-10 hrs at a time. Load it in the morning and then just before you go home. 20 hrs a day without supervision. Another could run for about 24 hrs without attention. Every day I turned out the lights and locked the door. Machines could be running and all it cost to operate was the electrical bill.
    So I’m part of the problem of automation. But the machines could do things that humans could not, and programing them was actually pretty simple, even back then. With not enough trained people to do the work one had to automate to stay in business. And up until then I heavily supported local apprenticeship programs and got a number of very good craftsman out of that. But it still was not enough. So a lot of work went offshore, where manual labor was a lot cheaper. And those companies invested in the automation as well (the machines, even if they required human intervention, could do things manual machines could not.) For a lot of businesses automation is already here and as you stated has been for a long time. What it’s doing now is getting more advanced and more capable. Machines can’t do everything and someone still has to tell them what to do, load parts at some point and fix things when they go wrong. Will the day come when no humans are necessary at all? I don’t think so because while things have progressed in the last 25 yrs, a lot, right now they seem to be somewhat stalled out. The rate of progression has slowed, even as the rate of utilization has increased.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @efgoldman:

    Technically, it was supposed to be a general supermarket, but in that neighborhood, it was a Latin market.

    And Beverly Hills or Pasadena have bigger and nicer supermarkets than Fairfax does.

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    SFBayAreaGal says:

    @Shalimar: Asimov I Robot series covered this also.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Mary G:
    Know someone whose hair turned brilliant white at 28. He grew a mustache and it came in black. Large bushy mane of brilliant white hair and a black mustache. He was mocked mercilessly until he shaved his upper lip.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Ruckus: Could’ve just died his hair to match the stache.

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    seaboogie says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Huh? I am confused.

    Possibly did not make myself clear. This post was about an actual stellar example of humanity residing in America’s wang, v. the typical “Florida Man” bit o’ weirdness.

    And I know that I do not speak only for myself in saying that you are deeply appreciated here. Your willingness to do research and bring expertise upon request and also you showing up throughout the comment thread to reply to comments makes you a major asset in this joint.

    FL harbors a lot of deep weirdness in it’s human inhabitants, but you and the singular Cracker more than offset the numerous Darwin Awards residents in your hood. And also the fellow that tidies veterans’ graves – y’all restore our faith that FL is not entirely whack. I lived in Miami for a year in ’01, and boy – howdy – did I ever get an education in the weirdness of tropical USA.

    ETA: A friend of friends of mine there have a buddy who is a bodyguard. Ex-military, he joined AA after being addicted to meds after having parachuted into a tree when in the military. He had some pretty interesting tales – including one where he quit a job, and his client was whacked the next week.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Ruckus:

    Know someone whose hair turned brilliant white at 28.

    One of my married-in aunts had white hair by the time she got married in her early 20s. She never colored it; strikingly beautiful woman. Long gone now.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Remember Cheers? Remember Norm walking in the bar and everyone says his name? We would walk in a place we hadn’t been in a year and they’d all remember him and do the same. I’d be invisible. He wasn’t giving up that hair. Not until it falls out. And I’d almost bet he’d be a comb over candidate. He hate it, but he’d still do it.

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    seaboogie says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Hey Adam – can you get me out of moderation at #202. My nym shows up as “undefined”, so I’m feeling kind of between dimensions….

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    Gravenstone says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    I’m astounded that anyone thought Michael York could pass for 30.

    Um, he was only 34 when the movie was released.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @seaboogie: Okay, now it makes sense. Thank you for the kind words.

    As for Miami – it is basically a plane of existence all to itself. I lived there from 1996 to 1998 while doing my MA in comparative religion.

    As to your friend: are you sure you didn’t read a Carl Hiassen novel and are just projecting?//

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @seaboogie: Someone else sprung you while I was in the other room.

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    seaboogie says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Thank ye kindly – and also, nope – that ‘chit really happened. Louie – the body guard in question – was a really buff little bulldog of a fella who wore a jet-black toupee with a ponytail (always fascinating to observe, it was pretty high-quality)*. Joined him and my friends at his favorite German resto in Miami on Valentine’s Day (before my lover passed away the next day), because you just know that a swarthy little fella like Louie really craves schnitzel and spaetzle That whole year was Dali-esque levels of surreal. Read Hiassen in the Miami Herald, and his books are not at all fantastic for “south Florida”.

    *My serendipitous nod to hair color on the thread.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Gravenstone:

    He sure didn’t look it.

    My memory is nagging at me that the “top age” in the book was 25, not 30, but I can’t go look without having my iPad eat my comment.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: They adjusted the top age up from book to movie. A few other things were changed as well.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Gravenstone:
    @Adam L Silverman:

    Found my answer, but can’t link: in the book, the top age is 21, so I may be conflating the book and movie and thinking there’s no way York could pass for 21.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: Yep. They adjusted it up. They also changed the ending for the movie. And, I think, one or two of the events that occurred in what the movie conceptualized as DC. And the reason for the creation of the youth utopia is changed from book to movie.

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    Ian says:

    @Sab:
    When you end your sentence with an adjective you sound like an idiot (or the idiot in chief)

    You might have been going for that, but trying to sound like Ill Douche only makes you sound like Ill Douche.

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    Ian says:

    @Timurid:
    I call BS on that one. We will have Calvinist law before sharia law. I put free (christian only) education 75 years before Islamic studies are a part of higher educational studies as a mandatory class (for people seeking to teach humanities.)

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    ProudGradofCatLadyAcademy says:

    @TS:

    I love this also. On a trip to Watertown MA, I located a small puritan graveyard, the markers contained colorful epitaphs, and a whole lot of heartbreaking infant markers, several in the same family.

    Arlington National, one of the most peaceful places to go to after visiting one of the most harrowing tours of The Holocaust Memorial Museum. Odd it would be so, as both mark places where men’s cruelty to other men are marked.

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