Who Thinks Like This?

The director of the OMB, Mike Mulvaney, legitimately said this out loud and in public:

I wasn’t sure at first and thought I was hearing things while watching, but sure enough, he said it:

WHo thinks like this? And then who says this. Out loud. In public. As part of an actual planned argument?

Not to mention, how would you like to pitch that fucking study to your IRB? “Yeah, um, we’d like to do a study with schoolkids, and test whether a control group of students who are adequately fed has higher achievement than students below the poverty line who are malnourished. KTHXBAI.”

Jesus fucking christ.

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239 replies
  1. 1
    debbie says:

    Wiki says he’s got 3 kids. What a nice Dad.

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  2. 2
    satby says:

    What an asshole. Shared your FB post about it too.

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    Kryptik says:

    Someone who has been given all indication that he will be rewarded for his sociopathy and lack of empathy. Or someone who has been tasked with prioritizing profit over people’s lives. But I repeat myself…

    But yeah. Show me anything that the GOP will actually balk at in concept, rather than just in degrees. Because I don’t really see GOP doing much except proposing a kinder, gentler knife to the throat for those at risk here.

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    chopper says:

    yet apparently tax cuts for rich people causing massive economic growth is just self-evident.

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    Barbara says:

    Like I said in the prior thread, he also said eliminating Meals on Wheels was the compassionate thing to do when the interests of recipients are balanced against the interests of those giving the money. Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses? Are there no crematoria? If these people can’t feed themselves they don’t deserve to eat. Honestly, I feel like crying now that I look at it in writing.

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    jo6pac says:

    It’s OK, take a deep breath. It’s going to get a lot worse in the very near future. Very Sad for Amerikas and world citizens.

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    debbie says:

    @satby:

    Saw your posts from earlier today. I’m so sorry.

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    Robin G. says:

    They are monsters. They are goddamn monsters. I keep trying to come up with an explanation other than “Gentlemen, to evil!” but I’ve got nothing.

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    MomSense says:

    He’s a fucking deatheater. Go hungry for two or three days and then get back to us.

    My god this is infuriating. I volunteer with our backpack program. We make sure kids, whose only reliable meals are at school, have enough food to get through the weekend. The teachers discreetly put the weekend supplies in their backpacks before they leave school on Fridays. They talk about the hugs they get for something as simple as canned pineapple! There is something profoundly wrong with a person A WEALTHY person who has no empathy for a hungry child.

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    debbie says:

    @Barbara:

    I can’t believe they’d end Meals on Wheels. Turns out they were the ones jonesing for death panels.

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    satby says:

    @debbie: thanks. Yeah, I was going to bring her home and see what else could be done, but it was just out of my hands at that point. She’s at peace, and knew she was loved to the end.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    there are still people out there who will try to explain why Gingrich’s call for child labor and orphanages are misunderstood

    according to twitter, including no less a Village knob-polisher than Stuart Rothenburg, Ryan is making quite the hash of his media appearances today

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    debbie says:

    @MomSense:

    There is something profoundly wrong with a person A WEALTHY person who has no empathy for a hungry child.

    Exactly! Meals on Wheels could be funded with, what, just a couple weeks’ worth of Trump’s visits to his Outer-Edge White House?

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    Pitching that study? Piece of cake*. If the PI’s name is Mengele…


    * Or lack of said piece, depending on which treatment arm the parents’ incomes have the child not-really-randomized to…

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    Roger Moore says:

    It’s not just that; it’s that his claim is bullshit, too. There’s a large body of research showing that nutrition programs help student achievement. Anyone who says otherwise is anti-science- not that we should expect different from the Trump regime.

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    dmsilev says:

    So, apparently not content to treat 1984 like an instruction manual rather than a cautionary tale, conservatives are now closing in on taking their inspiration from Swift’s A Modest Proposal.

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    laura says:

    This. Is. Who. They. Are.
    Eat the fucking rich.

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    MomSense says:

    Maybe someone should tell this sociopath that we started food assistance programs because there were too many draft age men who were unable to serve in WWII because childhood malnutrition affected their growth and development. All they care about other than their own power and money is war.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    just stumbled on this

    Ryan Tull‏ @ Tull007 2h2 hours ago
    @ AndyRichter and the data actually says $1 spent on meals on wheels saves $50 in Medicaid $s. $34B Annually

    (genial comedy nerd Andy Richter gets pretty angry about politics on twitter)

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  20. 20

    Disgraceful and disgusting. Master race indeed.

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    Baud says:

    Who Thinks Like This?

    Both sides, per the rules.

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    cain says:

    These people are slime, and to come out of some asshole who has a ton of money… he thinks he’s being some kind of policy wonk, based on the numbers. He’s just the kind of corporate asshole who laid me off last year.

    BTW – I was checking the mealsonwheelsamerica.org financials and from the national point of view most of the money comes from corporations. But several chapters do get money from state government. I’m confused on the funding model for Meals on Wheels now and where the federal govt funds Meals on Wheels.

    Don’t get me wrong though. I’m more than happy to make this about Republicans and giving them a black eye in regards how they are fucking things up. The time for just truth is long over, and I’m more than willing ot fight dirty.

    Here is the link to the financials.

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    lgerard says:

    I said it before…this guy is the best weapon we have, a stone cold fringe wingnut with no filter

    Keep him talking

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    Barbara says:

    @cain: There is a community block grant fund that is given to states, and many states use some of that money to fund meals on wheels. That fund would be eliminated.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    Everything about this so-called budget is so extreme and outrageous, I’m beginning to think they’re doing it on purpose, so that they can eventually “compromise” or “capitulate” on a couple of things, and we’ll be expected to be grateful. Even though the cuts will still be awful, they won’t be quite as awful. The good guys will still lose, just not as much as they feared, and Trump & Team will come out of it looking ever so reasonable and generous.

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    lgerard says:

    @MomSense:

    The same reason the federal government got involved in education
    40% of the draftees were functional illiterates incapable of writing a letter to mom
    It was both an embarrassment and a question of national security

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    trollhattan says:

    Significantly more than half the students in my kid’s high school (total student body 2,500) qualify for breakfast and lunch programs; more than half district-wide, for that matter. I invite Mr. Mulvaney to come address the students and faculty to share his thoughts at an assembly. Perhaps we can invite the parents too.

    So help me I’m missing David Stockman.

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    geg6 says:

    Cruel disgusting mother fucking Death Eaters say shit like that. Mother fuckers need to be hung.

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    Kathleen says:

    @satby: I was too late to BJ to comment but I am so sorry about your dog. Please be kind to yourself. {{{{{satby}}}}}

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    dr. bloor says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Reagan redux, without the warm fuzzy avuncularity.

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    I am following the YouTube channel Great War . T and company remind me of the clueless and isolated Czar N and his entourage.

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    Lizzy L says:

    @cain:
    @Barbara:

    I have seen that 3% of the Meals on Wheels income derives from the federal block grants. It will be a shame and a travesty, but not a disaster, if that money goes away.

    OTOH, the WIC program is 100% federally funded, and they intend to destroy that.

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    Hungry Joe says:

    I do believe that Mike Mulvaney has never been hungry. From the movie “Hombre” (1967):

    Audra Favor: I can’t imagine eating a dog and not thinking anything of it.
    John Russell: You even been hungry, lady? Not just ready for supper. Hungry enough so that your belly swells?
    Audra Favor: I wouldn’t care how hungry I got. I know I wouldn’t eat one of those camp dogs.
    John Russell: You’d eat it. You’d fight for the bones, too.

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    M. Bouffant says:

    Just about had it w/ these rancid Irish immigrants like Mulvaney & Spicer. Ship ’em back to their island of decaying bogs & Nazi sympathizers!!

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    Katdip says:

    Suddenly a (one eyed) a focus on government effectiveness. Even their own studies showed the travel ban and wall as “ineffective” to reduce terror risk. And where’s the data on how much security is improved with 5 more fighter planes or 1 more aircraft carriers? Why should we ask taxpayers to pay for that and not things that “put America first” like feeding the hungry and helping the poor? Do they actually believe the bulls**t they spew? What a bunch of hypocritical soulless monsters.

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    geg6 says:

    @trollhattan:

    Hell, at least Stockman came out a few years ago and admitted it was all bullshit. Too late, but he at least admitted it. That’s why you never see him on FOX or any other wingnut media.

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    ThresherK says:

    OT: I’m looking for a website or blog that runs a Womens’ NCAA tournament contest. LGM has their annual Mens’ contest, but no place I habitually visit (ESPN doesn’t count) does it for the women. Anyone see one?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    Since I don’t have permission to edit my #25 (WHY? WHY??), I’ll just add that of course I’m not naive — I know that every negotiation begins with the two sides stating preferences beyond what they realistically expect to get. So in a sense I’m not at all surprised. What does surprise me, though, is the utter callousness and cruelty they are willing to display in defending their various cuts. That’s just unnecessary and egregious and mean.

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    geg6 says:

    @satby:

    Missed you in the earlier thread and just want to give you {{hugs}}. I’m so sorry but you did everything you could. She’s at peace now.

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    varmintito says:

    Jump You Fuckers.

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    Eljai says:

    @trollhattan:

    So help me I’m missing David Stockman.

    I was just thinking of the proposal to list ketchup as a vegetable in school lunches back in the Reagan Administration! Jesus, at least they still believed in something akin to a meal.

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    Even if it were true that there was no performance difference…!

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    ThresherK says:

    @satby: I missed that. Condolences from our home. I’m a wreck at that point because of how pets hide their pain (left over from being wild, for survival purposes).

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    who thinks like this?

    Chris Cillizza‏Verified account @ TheFix 3h3 hours ago
    Mick Mulvaney is a very good advocate for Trump and this budget

    (probably a lot of them)

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    🌷 Martin says:

    Let them eat bootstraps.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @geg6:

    Cruel disgusting mother fucking Death Eaters say shit like that. Mother fuckers need to be hung.

    Work up a righteous rage and get back to me.

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    geg6 says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    So glad he’s going to CNN where I will never have to see or hear him ever again.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: “Kill all the first born males!”
    *GASP!*
    “Grumble, grumble. Ok, ok. Kill only every one out of ten first born males!”
    *Whew! How magnanimous and moderate!*

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    JPL says:

    What exactly does pro-life mean?

    Spicer on the budget: “There’s this assumption in Washington, Jonathan, that if you get less money, it’s a cut.”

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    satby says:

    @Kathleen: @geg6: thanks.

    @M. Bouffant: HEY NOW! Do not blame Irish for them, they learned that flavor of hate and greed here.

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    debbie says:

    Someone’s delusional:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 40m40 minutes ago
    More
    Great progress on healthcare. Improvements being made – Republicans coming together!

    If this is coming together…

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  52. 52

    @🌷 Martin: Other than Miller, they are all pretty portly. I don’t know what Mulvaney looks like.

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    debbie says:

    @JPL:

    Wow, and up is down and down is up.

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    Pogonip says:

    @satby: What happened that someone is extending sympathy?

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    hedgehog the occasional commenter says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: In my tinfoil hat moments, I genuinely believe they are trying to kill us.

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    Another Scott says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Hey, Rep. Virginia Foxx worked as a janitor in her NC high school and look how well she turned out!!1!

    :-/

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    JPL says:

    @debbie: Where’s the quotes?

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    rikyrah says:

    I keep on telling you this.

    They are sociopaths.
    The.entire.lot.of.them.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    Going to read this into Paul Ryan’s voice mail if I can ever get through.
    “But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit upon his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered in his presence, and he will separate the people as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will place the sheep at his right hand and the goats at his left.
    34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you fed me. I was thirsty, and you gave me a drink. I was a stranger, and you invited me into your home. 36 I was naked, and you gave me clothing. I was sick, and you cared for me. I was in prison, and you visited me.’
    37 “Then these righteous ones will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry and feed you? Or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 Or a stranger and show you hospitality? Or naked and give you clothing? 39 When did we ever see you sick or in prison and visit you?’
    40 “And the King will say, ‘I tell you the truth, when you did it to one of the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were doing it to me!’
    41 “Then the King will turn to those on the left and say, ‘Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons. 42 For I was hungry, and you didn’t feed me. I was thirsty, and you didn’t give me a drink. 43 I was a stranger, and you didn’t invite me into your home. I was naked, and you didn’t give me clothing. I was sick and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.’
    44 “Then they will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?’
    45 “And he will answer, ‘I tell you the truth, when you refused to help the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were refusing to help me.’
    46 “And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life.”

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    trollhattan says:

    @Lizzy L:

    OTOH, the WIC program is 100% federally funded, and they intend to destroy that.

    “We will protect you from conception to birth.” is more than a snappy slogan.

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    Corner Stone says:

    ZEGS, “It’s an act of mercy to repeal Obamacare”
    Actual ZEGS Mulvaney, “It’s an act of compassion to stop feeding the elderly.”

    Hmmmm…starting to sense a pattern here…

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    rikyrah says:

    @satby:
    So sorry satby.😥😥

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    randy khan says:

    @Roger Moore:

    To the extent he actually checked before speaking, I’d bet that he chose his phrasing very carefully and that it will turn out there aren’t specific studies that address his specific point. But I’d bet more on the proposition that he never checked.

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    debbie says:

    @JPL:

    “In my tiny hands?”

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    Ohio Mom says:

    I was at a protest outside of Senator Portman’s office today in downtown Cincinnati, from about 11:45 to 1:00 (it was a very poorly attended 7am to 7pm event organized by Move On).

    Lots of people, mostly men, on their lunch hour passed us by. It was very depressing how many of them think there isn’t enough money for health care (the theme of the protest), and that “income redistribution is wrong!” They would have been against school meals and Meals on Wheels too.

    I can home and mourned that my family is, for various reasons, not emigrant material. My ancestors knew when it was time to leave Europe but looking back, it was the young, hale and healthy who crossed the Atlantic.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @schrodingers_cat:

    T and company remind me of the clueless and isolated Czar N and his entourage.

    With Bannon as Rasputin? Ivanka and Tiffany as the Grand Duchesses, and little Barron as the Tsarevich. And Melania as Alexandra of course. Haven’t figured out what to do with Uday and Qusay yet (well, I have, but it’s rude).

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    randy khan says:

    @Corner Stone:

    And putting them on ice floes is positively charitable.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Another Scott:
    Jesus. Bet they used gasoline as cleaning fluid.

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    debbie says:

    @JPL:

    Thanks, I needed that! Seriously.

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    celticdragonchick says:

    @MomSense:
    Almost every school I teach at has free breakfast for all students…and these assholes want us to teach hungry children now. I’m sure they will blame all of the teachers when things go from bad to worse.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    Just going to repeat that: “Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons.”

    that’s how I feel about this administration

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    dmsilev says:

    @debbie: Remember, he thinks his administration is running like a finely tuned machine.

    Pay no attention to the gears flying through the air and the loud grinding noises.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Corner Stone:

    “Grumble, grumble. Ok, ok. Kill only every one out of ten first born males!”

    Thank GOD someone around here finally uses “decimate” correctly!

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    raven says:

    @satby: I also missed this earlier, I’m so sorry.

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    germy says:

    “There’s this assumption in Washington, Jonathan, that if you get less money, it’s a cut.”

    Okay, I think I can explain that one (I’ve lived and worked among wingnuts for years; I’ve heard their arguments). Here goes:

    Spicy means that less money isn’t a cut to a domestic program, it’s just a reduction in the anticipated increase.

    I had a co-worker explain that one to me about twenty years ago. I complained about a budget cut I’d read about, and he said (he’d heard it on talk radio) that it wasn’t really a cut, they just wouldn’t be getting the increase they’d expected.

    I think that’s what Spicy’s trying to suggest, although I don’t think it really applies here. They want to cut and they want to cut deep.

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    @SiubhanDuinne: Do share, we are all jackals, here.

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    @JPL: @debbie: hahaha that’s pretty great.

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    hovercraft says:

    @Baud:

    Who Thinks Like This?

    Both sides, per the rules.

    Nah, just the people on both side who don’t believe in data, and you know experts.

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    celticdragonchick says:

    @geg6:

    Mother fuckers need to be hung.

    Hanged, actually, although I prefer Mme Guillotine. She kisses their necks ever so swiftly…

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    laura says:

    @satby: Satby, I’m so sorry for the loss of your Rosa, and as painful it must have been to hold her as she slipped away, you made her final hour in the comfort of loving arms.
    Please accept this heartfelt (((hug))).
    She was a good dog and you did your best.
    Take heart.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @schrodingers_cat:

    One scenario involves well-oxydized farm implements, sideways, unlubricated.

    The other involves firing squads. Or pikestaffs and heads. I’m not fussy about details.

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    MomSense says:

    @satby:

    I’m so sorry, Satby. You have such a big heart and you did everything you could to love and help her. Big, big hugs to you.

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    NCSteve says:

    Between this and the Meals on Wheels comment, I can’t stop thinking of what the Count of Monte Cristo had planned for Danglers before he relented and let him go.

    Except I wouldn’t let him go.

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    celticdragonchick says:

    @Baud:
    Josh Barro, Chris Cillizza and Jonathan Chait are frequent offenders.

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    JPL says:

    @germy: Deep cuts! No funding for Meals on Wheels, after school programs, and Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children

    I know I’m preaching to the choir.

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    Jeffro says:

    @debbie:

    Turns out they were the ones jonesing for death panels.

    “It’s projection, all the way down!” (with these clowns)

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    celticdragonchick says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    The North Koreans use ZSU-23-4 anti aircraft guns…

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    hovercraft says:

    @trollhattan:

    So help me I’m missing David Stockman.

    By the time this is over we may be wishing we had Pete Peterson.

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    NCSteve says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    Relax. nick Kristof did it to him this am in the NYT.

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    les says:

    @cain:

    I’m confused on the funding model for Meals on Wheels now and where the federal govt funds Meals on Wheels.

    Some MoW money comes through Community Development Block Grants. You know, the fed money that’s best just given to the states because they know what to do? Well, maybe not…

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    celticdragonchick says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: This.

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    germy says:

    @celticdragonchick:

    Jonathan Chait

    Chait’s wife is a school privateer. Does he disclose this every time he writes about public education? I honestly don’t know because I got tired of reading him.

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    Baud says:

    Someone needs to make the hard choices.

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    celticdragonchick says:

    @germy: I had forgotten that, actually.

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    cmorenc says:

    @Barbara:

    he also said eliminating Meals on Wheels was the compassionate thing to do when the interests of recipients are balanced against the interests of those giving the money. Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses? Are there no crematoria? If these people can’t feed themselves they don’t deserve to eat. Honestly, I feel like crying now that I look at it in writing.

    I sharply differ with you on this. I feel more like watching Mulvaney cry after I give him several deserved hard whacks in the nuts with a 2 x 4.

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    Kathleen says:

    @M. Bouffant: Also, too, Paul Ryan, Sean Shammity, Bill O’Reilly,..make me ashamed to be Irish and raised Catholic.

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    🌷 Martin says:

    @randy khan: Can we get a reverse mortgage on that ice floe?

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    Ella in New Mexico says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    and he will separate the people as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

    This always bothered me about what otherwise is one of my favorite quotes from the Bible. Why did Jesus have to pick on goats? Goats are fucking cute animals, at LEAST as cute as sheep. Especially dwarf goats. And baby goats? OMG they look ADORABLE in little sweaters and they run around their pens with their brothers and sisters. They can make some hella funny sounds when provoked, hilarious ones. And they have awesome cheese products that give great joy and comfort to those of us who don’t tolerate cow’s milk. This particular metaphor just doesn’t work for me. I’d have been able to relate to “sheep vs. vipers” or even “sheep vs. cockroaches” much, much better.

    As much as I love Jesus, I think he was WAAAY off on this one.

    P.S. Keep calling. You’ll get through.

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    West of the Rockies (been a while) says:

    His wife and kids must be so proud of him. He sounds like a generous, compassionate soul.

    How do such people look at their ugly faces in the mirror? Is cash and a McMansion enough in exchange for your humanity?

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    celticdragonchick says:

    @cmorenc:

    I sharply differ with you on this. I feel more like giving Mulvaney several hard whacks in the nuts with a 2 x 4 and watching him feel like crying.

    I’ll see your 2 by 4 and raise you one barbed wire wrapped baseball bat owed by a certain Walking Dead bad guy.

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    Thru the Looking Glass... says:

    @MomSense:

    There is something profoundly wrong with a person A WEALTHY person who has no empathy for a hungry child.

    This is what gets me the most about these fuckers…

    Remember maybe a year ago Phil Mickelson was whining about his taxes? The quick numbers I remember from that moment were that Phil’s grossing about $100MM a year (yes, that’s right, $100,000,000 a YEAR&lt) from playing golf, doing commercials for drug companies, and so on, and he’s paying out like 70% of it in taxes… and it's just not fair to Phil, see?

    He’s ONLY got $30-FUCKIN’-MILLION DOLLARS left, to live off of… ONLY $30-FUCKIN’-MILLION DOLLARS… and not for the rest of his life… for ONE year… and it’s NOT FAIR to Phil… man, just once I wish I could get in someone like Phil’s face and ask, ‘Okay ASSHOLE, just what could you do that really matters in life w/ another $10MM that you can’t do on $30MM?

    Just once… the next time I hear some rich fuck whining how taxation is tantamount to slavery…

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    Baud says:

    @satby: You have my sympathies.

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    Baud says:

    @Thru the Looking Glass…: No chance he is paying 70% in taxes.

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    Millard Filmore says:

    @trollhattan:

    “We will protect you from conception to birth.”

    After that, the productive labors of yourself and your clan are ours to loot.

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    Kathleen says:

    New Rethuglican marketing jingle:

    “We’ve put the geezers up for bids
    Now we can’t wait to starve the kids!”

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    Pogonip says:

    @cain: My father was on Meals on Wheels briefly, mainly to give him a little variety; I was gone 12 hours a day and couldn’t do all the specialty cooking required. In this county about half their funding came from corporations (good PR) and the other half from an assortment of state-funded social services. The recipient paid on a sliding scale, about $5 in Dad’s case. In this county they could only furnish 1 meal a day and they seemed pretty skimpy. My point being, nobody’s going to sign up for Meals on Wheels unless they need it. I think it should get more money, from whomever, not less.

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    Pogonip says:

    @Baud: What happened? Who died? I’m guessing a family member? I’m very sorry too.

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    JustRuss says:

    @Baud:

    Someone needs to make the hard choices.

    Sure, but it should be you!

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    Ella in New Mexico says:

    @cain:

    I was checking the mealsonwheelsamerica.org financials and from the national point of view most of the money comes from corporations. But several chapters do get money from state government. I’m confused on the funding model for Meals on Wheels now and where the federal govt funds Meals on Wheels.

    I’m guessing it’s through “Community Development Block Grants”. When I worked at our local domestic violence program, CDBG money provided money to Meals on Wheels and Services for Seniors programs in addition to our shelter and quite a few other non-profits.

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    Lizzy L says:

    As Charles P Pierce said today, these really are the fcking mole people.

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    satby says:

    @Pogonip: here. And then here.

    Everyone else: appreciate you all, thanks. So proud of my sweet boy Hershey. He’s in pain even with the painkillers, but he staggers up to go potty outside in spite of that.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @zhena gogolia:
    Matthew 25 won’t do you any good. The fuckers like Ryan nitpick it on one or both of two points:
    1) They’ll distinguish private charity from public programs. See, they give money to their church, so they shouldn’t have to pay extra taxes to do what they’re already paying for with their charitable donations.
    2) When Jesus says “you did it to one of the least of these my brothers and sisters”, he’s saying you only have to be good to your coreligionists, not to everyone.
    We both know these are bullshit excuses, but they’re happy to rationalize that stuff.

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    Millard Filmore says:

    @Ohio Mom:

    My ancestors knew when it was time to leave Europe but looking back, it was the young, hale and healthy who crossed the Atlantic.

    Back before the internet, I read that the best and brightest go first and farthest.

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    Baud says:

    @Pogonip: Satby’s dog.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @trollhattan:

    “We will protect you from conception to birth.” is more than a snappy slogan.

    If they’re killing nutrition programs for pregnant women, they aren’t even protecting the unborn.

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    satby says:

    @Baud: I’m experienced. I’d have no problem putting a few of them out of the misery of their evil lives.

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    Pogonip says:

    @Ella in New Mexico: Maybe goats were really unpopular at the time? (I think they’re cute too.)

    I suspect that on Judgement Day there will be a lot of surprised goats. I hope I’m not one of them.

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    Baud says:

    @JustRuss: All choices are easy for me. It’s the consequences that are hard.

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    Jeffro says:

    @Thru the Looking Glass…: I think poor Phil and everyone who feels like him should trade places with someone so poor that they pay no income taxes, and see if it makes them feel better.

    Actually if I were king, that would be a law: one fucking whine outta you rich people and that’s it, I’m confiscating your every last dime and letting you see how you fucking like it, wondering where your next meal’s going to come from? Being rich doesn’t seem like such a matter of moral superiority now, does it?

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    Baud says:

    @satby: I could use a no nonsense person like you in my administration.

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    Pogonip says:

    @satby: Oh my. I’m sorry to hear this. I don’t think you “failed” the dog. You did the best you could for her. I wish your other dog a speedy recovery.

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    Jeffro says:

    Btw I’m watching a short clip of Spicey vs. Jim Acosta and all I can say to the WH press corpse is, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by calling Spicey a lying fucking asshole to his face. You won’t even have to wait long for a reason, either: the guy lies non-stop just like his boss.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Roger Moore:

    There’s a large body of research….

    Research? We don’t need no stinkin’ research! We got all the info we need.
    [Shape of Earth: Opinions differ]

    Good thing this fucking mess of a “budget” will be DOA. Already getting shit from both sides, and it isn’t even a formal proposal yet.
    Adam’s right: Continuing resolutions, with minor tweaks around the edges, as far as the eye can see.

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    satby says:

    @Pogonip: thanks. I’m coming to terms with it. And Hershey and the other three, plus the five cats are keeping me busy.

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    Pogonip says:

    @Baud: Can I be in charge of the department of Appropriate Punishment for Buttheads? I’m very creative and I have a little list.

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    JPL says:

    Peter Alexander has been fact checking the budget director’s statements.
    link

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    Ella in New Mexico says:

    @MomSense:

    I volunteer with our backpack program. We make sure kids, whose only reliable meals are at school, have enough food to get through the weekend. The teachers discreetly put the weekend supplies in their backpacks before they leave school on Fridays. They talk about the hugs they get for something as simple as canned pineapple! There is something profoundly wrong with a person A WEALTHY person who has no empathy for a hungry child.

    OMG What a wonderful project! God Bless you all! Just the thought of how many kids in my community would benefit from that–I’m going to talk to my fellow RN’s about starting a project here.

    You’re right, these people have had it so good for so long that they have no empathy for anyone else except themselves and what they hilariously think are their “burdens”.

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    Baud says:

    @Pogonip: That is a highly sought-after position.

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    PaulW says:

    there’s been studies!

    http://www.wilder.org/Wilder-R.....rmance.pdf

    Breakfast programs improve attendance, student focus, better grades.

    they’re intentionally going to starve students out of school, if not into early graves.

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    germy says:

    Health care is neither a right nor a privilege provided by the government according to House Speaker Paul Ryan.

    In a Thursday interview with MSNBC’s Chuck Todd, the Wisconsin Congressman explained that he believes the government doesn’t owe it to anyone to pay for health care. Doing so enables the government to decide for Americans “where how and when we get health car,” he said.

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    PaulW says:

    @MomSense:

    My god this is infuriating. I volunteer with our backpack program. We make sure kids, whose only reliable meals are at school, have enough food to get through the weekend. The teachers discreetly put the weekend supplies in their backpacks before they leave school on Fridays. They talk about the hugs they get for something as simple as canned pineapple! There is something profoundly wrong with a person A WEALTHY person who has no empathy for a hungry child.

    We need you in Congress. Please tell me you’re running for office.

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    lollipopguild says:

    @zhena gogolia: Ryan’s Bible is “Atlas Shrugged”

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    JPL says:

    @Thru the Looking Glass…: He had to admit that he exaggerated his taxes. I assume that he was lying in order to cover up his losses in Vegas, and elsewhere.
    I never understood how Phil could portray himself as clean cut, and the media bought into. Tiger couldn’t either.

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    germy says:

    I'm pretty sure the wealthy will step up and give more to charity to make up for all these budget cuts.

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    Jeffro says:

    @germy: Even if the health care is provided by the Blessed Market?!?

    Oh that’s right…it’s a sin that the Blessed Market has been allowed by the Evil Government to deliver health care in this way, and that people have been mandated to buy it (as opposed to having to pay for their and others’ emergency room care at 10x the cost)

    They’re just not really complicated thinkers, are they? Or thinkers, period.

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    PaulW says:

    Health care is neither a right nor a privilege provided by the government according to House Speaker Paul Ryan.

    Ninth Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

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    greennotGreen says:

    @Pogonip: I have often fantasized about my dream job: combination traffic cop and angel of death. I would specialize in imposing punishments on people who illegally park in handicapped spots; I would give them the necessary handicap so that they can park in that precious space legally.

    But I’m sure I could work hard, get a promotion, and become an Inspector General/Angel of Death for other offenses.

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    raven says:

    @greennotGreen: My paratrooper buddy (RIP) used to go fucking apeshit on people who parked illegally in handicapped spaces.

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    Ella in New Mexico says:

    @Pogonip: somehow I suspect that along the way, through years of tinkering with the translations and of Christian insiders meddling with it’s content, “goats”either was the wrong interpretation or they must have been the hemp/marijuana of the day, economically…lolol

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    Lizzy L says:

    @germy: And I AM Marie of Romania, for sure.

    /s/Of course they will; they’re getting money from all those lovely tax cuts./s/

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    BlueDWarrior says:

    @germy:
    What part of Social Darwinism did you not understand you peon?

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    JPL says:

    @PaulW: Someone needs to ask Ryan if he plans on overturning EMTALA, because that’s government interference in health care.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Pogonip:

    My father was on Meals on Wheels briefly

    My MIL delivered meals on wheels in a small SE MA town, until her knees/ankles wouldn’t let her climb up and down people’s front steps any more. I don’t think they even reimbursed her gas money. It was run locally by the town’s council on aging.

    ETA: Now she receives them, which seems fair to me

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    greennotGreen says:

    @satby: I just read up on what happened. I am so sorry. I hope Hershey’s wounds and your heart heal quickly.

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    TenguPhule says:

    WHo thinks like this? And then who says this. Out loud. In public. As part of an actual planned argument?

    Trump supporters. And there are millions of them.

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    JPL says:

    @greennotGreen: Years ago I went into a small gift shop, and someone parked illegally in handicapped place. I mentioned it to the clerk, and he looked horrified, because the person was a doctor.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Roger Moore:

    We both know these are bullshit excuses, but they’re happy to rationalize that stuff.

    It’s actually helpful; it identifies those who we need to use dragonglass on.

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    JMG says:

    This wasn’t a budget for anything except the Democratic Party’s attack ads in 2018.

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    Lizzy L says:

    @JPL: He would do it in a heartbeat if he had the votes.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @PaulW: Then there’s all that “promote the general welfare” boilerplate that people like Ryan pretend very very hard is not there.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @celticdragonchick:

    Sure, that works. As I said, I’m not fussy….

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    efgoldman says:

    @Jeffro:

    the guy lies non-stop just like his boss.

    But Sphincter, unlike, say, Ron Ziegler or one or another of the klowns that worked for W, really isn’t a good or facile liar. If you hooked him to a polygraph, he’d be sweating and blushing and stammering so badly when he lied, you could shut the machine off.
    Whereas “the best” of Tricksy Dicksie Nixie’s, Sanctus Ronaldus Magnus’, and W’s press people could just lie and lie and lie and look like they were just counting to ten – no stress, no stress at all.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Corner Stone: “Its an act of justice to make those lazy blackety black folk work for their supper. And if they won’t work, we’ll whip them compassionately. Of course we won’t pay those people! They’ll just spend it on drugs and women.”

    /Only a matter of time from the Republicans

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    Jack the Second says:

    @MomSense:

    Maybe someone should tell this sociopath that we started food assistance programs because there were too many draft age men who were unable to serve in WWII because childhood malnutrition affected their growth and development.

    Y’know, half these fuckers think the wrong side won WWII.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    I keep wondering if a single soul of them is familiar with the Preamble, let alone the body of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the other Amendments, the Declaration of Independence, or any other of the foundational documents.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    This always bothered me about what otherwise is one of my favorite quotes from the Bible. Why did Jesus have to pick on goats?

    Because goats are intelligent while sheep are stupid.

    You can drive sheep. Goats have to be led. /Thank you Terry Prachett

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Jack the Second: All of them, Jack. All of them believe that now.

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    efgoldman says:

    @germy:

    I’m pretty sure the wealthy will step up and give more to charity to make up for all these budget cuts.

    How’d you do that?

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    jl says:

    He’s just saying stuff to justify whatever he wants to cut. There are many many studies showing breakfast programs, after school programs, nutritional awareness programs, etc., have several beneficial effects, on academic performance, student behavior.

    Edit: of course, there are also many studies showing specific programs don’t have an effect. But the weight of evidence is they do work. The Cochrane project for evidence based medicine has some literature review and meta-analyses.

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    Tazj says:

    @Kathleen: I know, how are they not ashamed of the things they are saying? Too many people do not know history or even really pay attention to “A Christmas Carol” when it is on television.They think people in need were taken care of by their family, neighbors, or by the church in the good old days. When in reality, people were homeless, malnourished or starved to death. Do they even know why most of their ancestors came to the U.S.? Did they ever ask their parents or grandparents about the depression and WWII? Robert Kennedy’s fight against hunger?

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Pogonip: Need an assistant? I’m creative and have zero empathy for Republicans.

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    efgoldman says:

    @PaulW:

    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    Well, yeah, the constitution sez that. but Atlas Shrugged Doesn’t.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    Why did Jesus have to pick on goats?

    I don’t think he was necessarily trying to imply that goats were inferior to sheep. He was just using a shepherd separating sheep from goats as a metaphor for God separating people into righteous and unrighteous.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Tazj:

    Do they even know why most of their ancestors came to the U.S.?

    To lie, steal and cheat so that their spawn would follow in their footsteps so that Evil would inherit the ashes of the world.

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    cain says:

    @Barbara:

    @cain: There is a community block grant fund that is given to states, and many states use some of that money to fund meals on wheels. That fund would be eliminated.

    OK, because I did see that in the financials in some of the local chapters. I thought it came from state funding, but I guess the feds give the states that. In some I saw, it made 44% of the funding, so some chapters depend on it a lot, but not the national chapter it seems.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @JPL:
    A distressing number of doctors feel entitled to do WTFTW.

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    cain says:

    @Katdip:

    Suddenly a (one eyed) a focus on government effectiveness. Even their own studies showed the travel ban and wall as “ineffective” to reduce terror risk. And where’s the data on how much security is improved with 5 more fighter planes or 1 more aircraft carriers? Why should we ask taxpayers to pay for that and not things that “put America first” like feeding the hungry and helping the poor? Do they actually believe the bulls**t they spew? What a bunch of hypocritical soulless monsters.

    Those fighter planes won’t do shit if there was a cyberwar, and they get hacked. You need a strong educational system at that point to get people trained enough to fight back. We are in deep shit, because those fighter planes are not going to do shit if your government computers are compromised.

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    Lizzy L says:

    @jl: Yeah, except fuck him sideways: we don’t withhold food from hungry children even if they do get poor grades in school. We feed people because it is right to feed people and unethical to refuse to feed people. And we figure out how to help the kids who are getting poor grades improve.

    Mole people.

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    @🌷 Martin: No, it’s a depreciating asset.

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    jl says:

    Cochrane Collaboration

    Not like it’s hard to find this kind of stuff. For example, search for
    The WHO Health Promoting School framework for improving the health and well-being of students and their academic achievement
    at Cochrane Collaboration
    http://www.cochrane.org/

    Not saying the Cochrane groujp is the greatest thing. Some people have said, full of prissy old pedantic farts. I’ve heard people say that. Top people. But, look up some of the reviews there.

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    @satby: Condolences on the pup.

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    H.E.Wolf says:

    “I Like to Think of Harriet Tubman” by Susan Griffin, circa 1970: an eloquent and furious poem on “the problem of feeding children…”

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Tazj:

    I know, how are they not ashamed of the things they are saying?

    A shamectomy is required to advance very far in the Republican party.

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    cain says:

    @satby:

    @debbie: thanks. Yeah, I was going to bring her home and see what else could be done, but it was just out of my hands at that point. She’s at peace, and knew she was loved to the end.

    So sorry to hear. :( Two weeks ago I lost my kitty as you guys all know, I also broke my car too a week later. Sheesh. My good thoughts to you, and at least as you say she is in peace.

    I’m feeling a lot better, as I am house boarding a young all black feline who is running around at full tilt with enormous energy. She squeaks like a kitten.. (she’s barely out of her kitten years)

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    Captain C says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Put them in a mine-clearing penal battalion?

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Lizzy L: Insult to moles. Ghouls.

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    Pogonip says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: *chortle*

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    Captain C says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: How about Vlad-style impalement?

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    jl says:

    @Lizzy L: Yeah, I was going to say that but figured a lot of commenters already did.

    Just plain wrong to allow kids to be deprived. Allowing that is depraved and wrong. But the US has been doing more and more of that for decades. We started getting our act together in the 60s and 70s, but since then depraved people have too often gotten their depraved way here.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Barf.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Lizzy L:

    we don’t withhold food from hungry children even if they do get poor grades in school.

    Under the Republicans, we will now.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: But that would be uncivil and irritate some of the special snowflakes..

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @Barbara:

    when the interests of recipients are balanced against the interests of those giving the money

    What the hell does that mean? The recipients need not to starve to death. It’s us tax payers who are giving them the money. There is no interest that we tax payers have that outweighs the need to survive of Meals on Wheels beneficiaries. Yet these people claim that they are Christians.

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    Captain C says:

    @Jeffro:

    I think poor Phil and everyone who feels like him should trade places with someone so poor that they pay no income taxes, and see if it makes them feel better.

    I remember when the WSJ came out with its “people who earn only $12K/year are lucky duckies because they pay no taxes” article. If I had been those writers’ boss, I would have called them in the next day and said, “That piece you wrote yesterday was fantastic! It really reflects the editorial philosophy of the Journal. In fact, it was so convincing that effective immediately, your salary is $12K/year. I’m giving myself a raise with the difference.”

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    debit says:

    @satby: Just got home and am catching up. I am so sorry. A tragedy that could have been avoided, had your petsitter simply followed instructions. Hugs to you and your poor wounded pup.

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    gorram says:

    They welcomed the Irish delegation in the morning, demanded starvation as public policy in the afternoon. Ugly. Just ugly.

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    liberal says:

    @Katdip: hundreds of billions a year, and they couldn’t even scramble fighter jets in time on 9-11. And it’s not like that tactic was completely unheard of.

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    Captain C says:

    @Ella in New Mexico: I think it’s just that sheep are easier to herd around than goats.

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    jl says:

    Bottom line is this guy is either a liar or an incompetent ignoramus, perhaps both, in addition to having no moral compass.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Patricia Kayden:

    There is no interest that we tax payers have that outweighs the need to survive of Meals on Wheels beneficiaries.

    “But Taxcuts!” /Freeloading Republicans

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    liberal says:

    @jl: Cochrane is great.

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    Kathleen says:

    @Tazj: I know. These vipers and vultures make me physically ill. While none of this surprises me at all, the actual reality of seeing and hearing their intentions keeps me in a state of constant rage and fear. Part of me feels this is a very bad parody of The Producers Meets Idiocracy. What terrifies me most are the people who support him and the media because they are so disconnected from common sense, facts, truth and empathy. I’m Irish and therefore am fatalistic and prone to hand wringing and despair. I’m grateful for the voices here to “get” how I’m feeling and those who talk me down from the ledge.

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    Aimai says:

    @MomSense: yes we have a backpack program too! Very important!

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    TenguPhule says:

    @liberal: Executive Decision, 1996. Steven Seagal.They even predicted the commercial airline used as a first strike weapon.

    Condi Rice should have been whipped out of office for “Nobody predicted”. It was predicted FIVE YEARS PRIOR.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Kathleen:

    I’m Irish and therefore am fatalistic and prone to hand wringing and despair. I’m grateful for the voices here to “get” how I’m feeling and those who talk me down from the ledge.

    I thought it was solved by the drinking? /not intended to be a serious statement

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    Kathleen says:

    @TenguPhule: Sigh. I sincerely wish I could drink. Alcohol does not like me. Now my brothers and my father (rest his soul) – they more than make up for me. I substitute with sugar and a few cigarettes here and there. Sigh.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @zhena gogolia:
    This is the fundamental problem with trying to use the Bible to convince “Christians” to believe anything they don’t want to believe. People have had 2000 years to parse every word Jesus said and come up favorable interpretations. They’ve been circulating for so long that people who misuse his words aren’t even making the stuff up for themselves; they’re just repeating the interpretations they’ve been taught in their church. They don’t even realize they’re worshiping Mammon and not YHWH.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @TenguPhule:

    Executive Decision, 1996. Steven Seagal.

    Debt of Honor, 1994. Tom Clancy. Also included a suicide attack using a commercial jetliner.

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    Keith P. says:

    Jesus fucking christ.

    Jesus was emaciated, too, and he saved mankind. Ergo, starving kids is a good thing.

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    Kathleen says:

    @raven: No, but I have heard about it. I should read it because I always enjoyed his writing.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Kathleen: Sake Flavored Kitkats. Order from Japan.

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    lgerard says:

    when the interests of recipients are balanced against the interests of those giving the money

    So I am going to remember that when my MA tax dollars go to Mulvaney’s state, South Carolina.
    The state that gets the most exorbitant amount of money from the Federal Government versus what they contribute

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Roger Moore: But the Bushies didn’t read books. They needed to be shown using moving pictures

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    raven says:

    @Kathleen: It’s all about Irish.

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    Kathleen says:

    I will definitely check it out. I should also read Angela’s Ashes. My aunt told me is was the story of my grandfather’s life in Ireland.

    ETA Thanks for the recommendation.

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    Lyrebird says:

    Don’t need no IRB those guys… besides, the work’s been done:

    Top Google Scholar hit…
    Jyoti, D. F., Frongillo, E. A., & Jones, S. J. (2005). Food insecurity affects school children’s academic performance, weight gain, and social skills. The Journal of nutrition, 135(12), 2831-2839.

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    tybee says:

    @Kathleen:

    I should also read Angela’s Ashes

    very depressing book

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @satby: You did everything you could. And she left knowing she was loved. Now she’s in a green sunny field chasing butterflies.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @lollipopguild:

    Ryan’s Bible is “Witless Slagged”

    FTFY.

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    Shana says:

    @lgerard: And when Britain had the same problem of military recruits being unfit for duty, they also formed the National Health Service, as I recall from the debates around ACA.

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    Kathleen says:

    @TenguPhule: Oh, my! I’ve heard sake is pretty intense.

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    Kathleen says:

    @tybee: I think that’s why I keep putting it off. I’m depressed enough right now.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Kathleen: The candy is amazing. But if you’re into intense suffering, they have a wasabi flavored one too.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Kathleen: i’d strongly recommend the audiobook read by the author

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    JohnO says:

    Conservatives. Republicans. Morons. Assholes.

    This has been another edition of SATSQ.

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    satby says:

    @Lizzy L: How are you doing?

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    patrick II says:

    In addition to all the other reasons Mulvaney is an asshole, is his selective use of “studies” to prove something. Who knows if healthy, well fed children do better than starving children unless we have a study? On the other hand, global climate change studies, of which there are thousands, are disregarded. What do both of these conclusions have in common? Rich people will have to spend some of their money on something besides themselves if either is true.

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    Kathleen says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Someone at the Y also recommended that to me. She said it was phenomenal.

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    Shana says:

    @Baud: Yeah, it’s only taxed at 70% for the portion over whatever the next lower bracket it. Progressive taxation you know.

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    Vhh says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:A band of aristocrats murdered Rasputin for less. Poisned, shot, and stuffed througha hole in the ice on the Neva.

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    Rob Lll says:

    @satby:

    Satby, I am so sorry for your loss. Best wishes to you and Hershey.

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    artem1s says:

    @Hungry Joe:

    Empire of the Sun…

    Basie: Jim, didn’t I teach you anything?
    Jim: Yes. You taught me that people will do anything for a potato.

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    Johannes says:

    @satby: So sorry for your loss. Bless you for the love you give the animals in your life.

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    J R in WV says:

    @raven:

    Some time back, I went to local community rec center to visit the pool/spa. A guy in a Mercedes Benz pulled up into a handicapped spot, jogged into the front door. Now, if you’re running in to drop off a gym bag that your wife/kid forget, no big deal.

    I waited a little bit, strolled in, went to the desk and mentioned that there was a Benz in a handicapped spot, proceeded to change. As I got to the pool, I heard on the PA: “There is a grey M-B parked illegally, licence number ###-###, please move the car immediately or you will be towed!”

    I saw a guy take off, in a bathing suit, probably going to need to stop at a locker for his keys, etc. Hoping the tow truck was already there when they paged him.

    Sweet! To have forced him to “confess” to having parked in a handicapped spot, at a community rec center that does cardiac workouts, health club, deals with people recovering from trauma, etc, etc. Not a way to get ego-boo, not at all!

    A way to get nearly universal scorn, now that’s what he was gonna get!!!

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    dollared says:

    @ThresherK: LMK if you find one. Go (the other) Huskies!

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    Riley's Enabler says:

    @satby: oh, satby. I’m so very sorry for your day, for your Rosa and for everything you’ve had to deal with. Sending my love and some Riley kisses too.

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    lurker dean says:

    @satby: i’m so sorry, satby. i’m sure you did everything you could, sometimes things are just out of our hands. i’m glad you got to sit with rosa in the end.

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    Ksmiami says:

    @lgerard: I want the GOP burned to the fucking ground then salted for eternity.

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    Jilli Brown says:

    Why is it always 2 steps forward, 10 steps back in this country?

    Stupid question, but…shit.

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    sukabi says:

    @Katdip: the military projects allow for hundred of millions of $$$ to be funneled to fellow rich sociopaths, public welfare projects…there’s very little money to skim there.

    As usual it’s a short term money grab.

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    Gretchen says:

    @Major Major Major Major: exactly! Isn’t keeping children from being hungry an end in itself?

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    Lillian Barron says:

    @Barbara: Or vomiting. That was my first response.

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    Lillian Barron says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:good man, that Mr. Richter

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    SWMBO says:

    @satby: Peace and comfort to you. It is so hard to let one go. And, knowing you, it won’t be long before another dog finds its way to you for a better life.

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    SWMBO says:

    @Lizzy L: How are you doing today?

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    @satby: Big hugs, as you grieve your troubled friend.

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    steverinoCT says:

    @Tazj:

    Did they ever ask their parents or grandparents about the depression and WWII?

    My mother would tell us how she’d cry because she couldn’t have potatoes when she was a baby during the war. And my dad would rail against what he called the “Depression cooking” my mother learned from her mother– two meatloaves that became leftover meatloaf that became cut-up-into-“meatballs” for spaghetti. That was then eaten as leftovers. Finish up with sandwiches and you could stretch them for almost a week. Same with a big pot of stew.

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