Warren Beatty makes mistake, #Moonlight wins best picture. #Oscars pic.twitter.com/zRZlTTeD2l
— Variety (@Variety) February 27, 2017
(h/t: commentor LAMH)
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I only caught the end of the Oscars telecast because I was waiting for the local news, and I honestly assumed the BIG SHOCK ENDING was another lame-o Jimmy Fallon Kimmel joke at first. Per the LA Times:
After an erroneous announcement, ‘Moonlight’ was named Oscar-winner for best picture. ‘La La Land’ was announced first.
“Moonlight,” Barry Jenkins’ drama is about a young African American coming to grips with his sexuality.
At first, Faye Dunaway announced “La La Land” as the winner, after her co-presenter Warren Beatty studied the card at length.
Producers and castmembers from “La La Land,” the candy-colored big-screen romantic musical about two artists striving to fulfill their dreams, were on stage thanking everyone for their win when the mistake was caught.
“La La Land” producer Jordan Horowitz caught the mistake from the stage and interrupted the celebration, calling attention to the discrepancy on the winners card in his hand.
At that point, someone showed the card to the camera, which clearly indicated “Moonlight” had won…
Warren Beatty then stepped to mic and explained that the reason it had taken him so long to read the card, was because he was looking at something that said Emma Stone had won. At that point, he showed it to Dunaway, who announced “La La Land,” Beatty assured viewers that the error was unintentional and he wasn’t trying to turn the biggest award into a joke…
The moment will go down as one of the strangest and most shocking in Oscar history, with the room in disarray as they sorted out the error.
Stone did win Best Actress for La La Land, so perhaps an errant card ended up in the Best Picture envelope. Prediction: There will be somewhere north of ten thousand thinkpieces & essays within the next ten days, explicating on how two of the whitest stars in Hollywood ended up on the wrong end of that particular fraught confrontation…
ETA:
The point that it was 'revealed' that the wrong winner was announced for Best Picture #Oscars pic.twitter.com/F0rYoIspIA
— Tatiana King Jones (@TatianaKing) February 27, 2017
Dog Dawg Damn
As someone who loathes La La Land–this was even better than it losing the old fashioned way.
lamh36
let’s hope this WTF moment doesn’t take away from the fact that Moonlight wins BEST PICTURE Oscar 2017!
Congrats cast and crew.
This made my oscar pics 8 for 9, but i’m glad to have been wrong about Moonlight winning Best picture
lamh36
Dog Dawg Damn
@lamh36: Dude is boss.
lurker dean
Just a tad awkward indeed..
https://twitter.com/JasonColthorp/status/836084104668000256
lamh36
Like I said, dude that snatched that card was the real MVP.
In actuality, Beatty did look confused when he read the card, Fay was the one who said La La Land….and notice Fay done bounced by the time the LaLa Land producers and cast and all got on stage…lol
amk
@lurker dean: and the tacky, tacky background didn’t help.
rikyrah
hilarious.
cause I would have taken anything over LaLa Land.
that it WAS Moonlight??????
rikyrah
@Dog Dawg Damn:
come sit by me???
Suzanne
@lamh36: In her defense, it looks like someone fucked up the cards and gave Dunaway/Beatty the wrong one. Not sure how anyone could deal with that gracefully.
Anyway, weird ending, but the more deserving film won.
Villago Delenda Est
Well, to err is human, after all.
But to really fuck things up, you need to be a Trump.
jk
Amen to that! I’ve always wanted to see this happen and it was just as much fun as I had imagined it would be.
Mike J
Bernie would have won.
Temporarily Max McGee (Until Death!)
Beatty didn’t make a mistake, Dunaway did. And a bigger mistake was made by the person who gave them the wrong envelope to begin with.
lamh36
Welp…going up the line from whoever handed that card to Beatty or Dunaway… someone gon get fired!
@MarcSnetiker
Emma Stone backstage said SHE HAD HER CARD THE WHOLE TIME!!!
Suzanne
Now if only this could happen with the election.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@Dog Dawg Damn:
You’re celebrating the embarrassment of people who made a film you didn’t like?
Mnemosyne
@lurker dean:
It’s kind of amazing to watch that clip and see people start running across the stage behind the group.
If a guy with a headset shows up on stage during one of those shows, somebody done fucked up.
Yarrow
First time in ages I didn’t watch the Oscars and this happened! Watched the clip and that producer from “La La Land” was great. Good for him for no hedging and doing the right thing as soon as they figured out what was going on. And congratulations to “Moonlight” for best picture!
Mnemosyne
And, ya know, I’m going to give Warren Beatty credit for staying on stage and ‘fessing up on camera. That must have been so embarrassing for him as a director himself.
sigaba
@West of the Rockies (been a while):
Mutatis mutandis everything anybody on the Internet ever does.
CaseyL
@lamh36: Look at it this way: usually, a couple years down the line, hardly anyone actually remembers which movie won which award. Everyone will remember this win for a long time.
Villago Delenda Est
@CaseyL: Indeed, some of the in retrospect total mediocrities that have won “Best Picture” are forgotten except in the archives of the Academy, and a list at Wikipedia.
janelle
You’ve confused your late night Jimmys… Kimmel was the host, not Fallon.
lamh36
@Mnemosyne:
Yeah…I will step away from my “being petty” seat for a minute and say good on the La La Land folks for noticing annd correcting the error quickly! But I will get back in my petty seat and say…he snatched that card from Warren hands with crisp precision…lol
Temporarily Max McGee (Until Death!)
@CaseyL:
So that’s why my annual Chariots of Fire screening party is always dead?
John Revolta
@Mike J: Oh sure, the guy that couldn’t even win a Golden Globe was gonna win the big one. You guys disgust me.
lamh36
Here’s a quote from Barry Jenkins, Director of Moonlight after the win…
Anne L…maybe a great add to update the post?
@MarcSnetiker 2m2 minutes ago
More
OK and now here’s Barry Jenkins’ reaction backstage: pic.twitter.com/0hYotOVzAI
https://twitter.com/MarcSnetiker/status/836094339935764480
Suzanne
@Villago Delenda Est: Excepting last year with “Spotlight”, I nearly always feel like they get it wrong.
I wish good movies came out all year, and not just all piled up at the end.
amk
now steve harvey can relax. no one will remember his fuckup now.
Mnemosyne
Emma Stone talked backstage about how Moonlight was her favorite film of the year and that she’s really excited for the filmmakers, so she’s being very gracious as well.
lamh36
ha…jezebel headline for Aflect win for Best Actor…which funny enough can be used in alot of different categories in past, present and future Oscars, I’m sure.
? Martin
Like a finely tuned machine.
lamh36
Dog Dawg Damn
@West of the Rockies (been a while): Yeah, I’m an ass.
Yarrow
@Suzanne:
Oh, me too. I hate that they all come out at the very end off December.
Villago Delenda Est
@Suzanne: I was thinking along the lines of 1968, when the by far most memorable film of that year, and the one that makes the best ever lists, 2001 A Space Odyssey wasn’t even nominated, and no one remembers the film that won.
Then there’s The Greatest Show on Earth from 1952, which beat out High Noon.
Dog Dawg Damn
Really didn’t want White Mediocrity, the Musical to win over an actual good film. After the Super Bowl, I’m just a bitter queen.
lamh36
hahaha…someone said look how Faye Dunaway faded into the background like Homer in the bushes gif…
lol
https://media.giphy.com/media/4pMX5rJ4PYAEM/200.gif
Villago Delenda Est
@lamh36: He’s no Donald Trump, that’s for fucking sure.
FlipYrWhig
@lamh36: As I said in the last thread, I half expect Bernie Sanders to start lecturing everybody about the importance of respecting poor troubled working-class scrapper Casey Affleck.
Anne Laurie
@janelle: Oops. Thanks, fixed!
(I not only can’t tell them apart, I actually forget there are two of them working the late-night shift… )
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
We’ve watched the clip a few times now and you can see Beatty looking in the envelope to see if there was a second card in there. He knew there was a problem and was trying to stall for time for the mistake to be corrected.
? Martin
@Villago Delenda Est: 2001 got such mixed reviews that it would never get the vote. Hell, a big chunk of the theater walked out in the middle of the first screening in Hollywood. And other critics thought they just saw the greatest movie ever made. It was too polarizing.
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
@lamh36: Yeah, I kind of expected Beatty to scream from history’s most savage paper cut, the way that guy grabbed the card out of his hand. La La Land guy was good to want it corrected ASAP and get the award to the rightful winners, but he seemed pretty annoyed. Can’t blame him.
lamh36
Class act from Horowitz.
Jimmy, I’ll guess it was a joke, but add this to that lame joke about Masherala Ali’s name and I’m like fuq off Jimmy…go home
Major Major Major Major
@West of the Rockies (been a while): there’s a German word for it and everything.
lamh36
@Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA: well,, he had just thanked his lovely “blue eyed wife” (quote btw) and then bam…mistake…
Still good on him
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
Somewhere there’s a parallel universe where I have a young son, and in that universe I feel conflicted. On one hand, I don’t want to raise my son to be a POS sexual predator; OTOH, I want to raise him to be successful. Decisions, decisions. (At least Casey Affleck isn’t bright orange, so there’s that.)
Dmbeaster
Yeah, very unfair that so many are jumping on Beatty, even if he did look clueless. He did not make a mistake. He was clearly given the wrong card, and recognized that as soon as he opened it up. He just did not know what to do even though it seems obvious he was given the best actress card. He shows it to Faye who is not really paying attention, sees La La Land on the card (under Emma Stone’s name), and announces “La La Land.” Yeah, if Warran was still all there, he might have acted decisively as he seems to know its wrong even now, and he indicates they need the right card.
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
@lamh36:Yeah, WTF with the “you guys should keep it” line? Idiot.
Suzanne
@Villago Delenda Est: 1995, when fucking Forrest Gump beat Pulp Fiction and The Shawshank Redemption…….not good.
lamh36
Welp…
Anyway…I know folks are saying hey, it makes this win more memorable, but yeah…naw…Moonlight winning with no “gimmicky malfunction” would have STILL been memorable.
It doesn’t happen often for a film like this with a cast primarily of African American actors…so even without the mishap, it woulda still been memorable.
sigaba
I like how it was literally Bonnie and Clyde who did this, there’s a sort of spiritual finality to it all.
Temporarily Max McGee (Until Death!)
@Villago Delenda Est:
There were some pretty damned good films released in 1968. Oliver! was undeserving of the Oscar, IMO (and in many other’s O’s), but The Lion in Winter came out that year, and Night of the Living Dead, and Rosemary’s Baby, The Odd Couple and Funny Girl. That’s not a bad year in the medium.
lamh36
@sigaba: lol..yeah..someone on twitter said shoutout to Bonnie & Clydes, stilling robbing shit, like 30 years later…lol
Elizabelle
I like the NY Daily News headline on this one:
lamh36
showing how much of a gentleman Horowitz was…apparently the other producer of La La Land…may have actually looked at the card and STILL gave his acceptance speech.
yep…
@MichaelAusiello
Michael Ausiello Retweeted Enda Conway
This video begs the Q: Did #LaLaLand producer Fred Berger learn #Moonlight was the real winner & STILL go ahead and deliver his thank yous?
Davebo
These people could fuck up a steel ball!
I mean seriously, how hard is this?
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@Major Major Major Major: @lamh36:
Are the La-la Land people known racists or terrible people in some other fashion? If they are, then, boo, fuq them sideways. But Van Morrison sang about his brown-eyed girl.
Was mentioning her eye color some racist dog whistle?
Mnemosyne
@Dmbeaster:
We’ve watched it a couple of times and you can see he’s stalling for time. He looks a little pissed when Faye reads the wrong name and makes everything worse.
@lamh36:
Frankly, I’m pretty sure the producers of LaLa Land are pissed at the Oscar show’s producers that they let them get up there and then pulled out from under them, and I can’t really blame them. I’m glad they didn’t blame the Moonlight producers and were able to swallow their ire and be gracious.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
Meh. I think when they pushed Fred forward to make his speech, there was still some confusion — they didn’t confirm it until he finished, which was why he veered back and was like, “Oh, we lost, by the way.”
Mnemosyne
@Davebo:
Honestly? Producing a show like the Oscars is REALLY REALLY HARD. There are a ton of moving parts that all have to operate correctly and several hundred people who all have to do their jobs just right.
Like I said before, if a guy wearing a headset shows up on stage during the show, that means there’s a BIG problem in progress.
Villago Delenda Est
@Suzanne: Then there’s 1990, when Dances with Wolves beat out Goodfellas. All because Hollywood needs to feel good about itself with a “reverse Western”.
Davebo
@Mnemosyne:
I get all that but seriously? It’s the pinnacle of the show and the wrong card is sent out? Hell, it takes hundreds of people to orchestrate operations on a carrier flight deck or run a chemical refinery but they manage, for the most part, to do it without these recent cockups.
I feel bad for Beatty.
Mnemosyne
@Davebo:
You also had Auli’i Cravalho get whacked in the head by one of the dancers during her song, so there was something weird with the stage management tonight.
Or, as someone was saying in the previous thread, the timeline glitched in front of all of our eyes.
AnotherBruce
I didn’t even see the Oscars, is it wrong of me to laugh at this? Maybe it is, but I just can’t stop chuckling. I mean, c’mon, this isn’t exactly a tragedy.
gwangung
@Davebo:
Well, speaking as a producer, yes, seriously. Foul ups happen, and not even your best, deep, most detailed contingency plans may cover them.
Villago Delenda Est
@Mnemosyne: Because I’ve seen large scale military operations planned and executed, I have an appreciation for this, and you’re right…the coordination to pull something this complex off is nothing to scoff at.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
I blame DWS
Mnemosyne
@Davebo:
I feel bad for all of the filmmakers from both films, and for Beatty. Obviously, nobody wants to look like an idiot on live international TV.
The post-Oscars show had some of the explanation from the stage that didn’t make it to the broadcast, so hopefully the Oscar folks will put that on their website along with the speeches from the “Moonlight” team.
Brachiator
Wait. What? Are you kidding me? I swear to Zeus I was somewhere watching the Oscars and left just as La La Land was announced Best Picture. I stopped to get a quick bite to eat, but was totally off the grid. No TV, no radio. No Internet.
I get home and now, what? WTF?
Is Trump still president?
Wow. Congratulations Moonlight. The Little Movie That Could.
janelle
That was an idiotic thing to say, but Kimmel’s generally not a bad guy and I’m thinking that maybe he was totally confused in that whole fiasco and thought it was some crazy gag that he wasn’t in on. The show had a lot of gags, namely him (Kimmel) ripping on Matt Damon all night in their fake “feud” which even included Matt Damon being introduced as Ben Affleck’s “guest” at one point by the public address announcer.
Or maybe’s he’s a douche, I don’t know. I’ll temporarily give him the benefit of the doubt and see if he says anything to explain himself (because someone will surely ask him what the hell that was all about). If he avoids it or tries to pretend like it didn’t happen, well then fuck ’em.
Mnemosyne
@gwangung:
We’ll probably never know exactly how this happened, but there were very clearly two envelopes — at one point, you can see the stage manager bring another envelope on stage with him. Somehow, Beatty and Dunaway were given the wrong envelope before they went on stage.
Seriously, I’ve watched the footage like five times now. It’s the award show equivalent of the Zapruder film.
mouse tolliver
@Temporarily Max McGee (Until Death!): If you’re watching Chariots of Fire, they’re not dead. They’re asleep.
ruemara
Having run a live broadcast, I am so glad this wasn’t me. But classyness all around from La La land and from Moonlight. Honestly, I thought Moonlight or Hidden Figures or Fences deserved it.
Mnemosyne
@gwangung:
You of all the people here will appreciate this: a friend of mine who is part of a small theater group was doing a play where there was food on the table, and at intermission, one of the audience members went onstage and started eating the food off the table. Who the hell does that?
Temporarily Max McGee (Until Death!)
@mouse tolliver:
B…B…But Best Picture winner. Nooooo.
janelle
@Elizabelle: Well that’s kind of dickish.
I didn’t see the movie (La La Land) and had no interest in seeing it, mostly because it seemed pretty mediocre from everything I’ve heard about it and I just don’t really care for musicals. I’m glad a much better and more deserving film actually won Best Picture, but I don’t really get the whole taking joy in other people’s loss thing. It just seems really… Trumpian. Hat tip to the La La Land producer who was extremely graceful in the way he handled the whole thing.
And it sucks that the Moonlight producers didn’t get the proper introduction they deserved, but fuck it, they won, and that’s awesome.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@ruemara:
Best wishes tomorrow! Here’s to a successful return to form!
mouse tolliver
A couple of days ago I read an article that described exactly what would happen if someone read the wrong name at the Oscars. No one has even read the wrong name at the Oscars. Why would they? How could they? Unless someone deliberately gave the presenter the wrong card.
Did this happen on purpose because somebody wanted to troll the Oscars?
Mnemosyne
@ruemara:
I was saying in a previous, pre-fiasco thread that I may try and write a short essay about Moonlight for my romance writers’ newsletter, because it’s the first truly ROMANTIC movie I’ve seen in a long time. It actually ends on a positive and optimistic note despite everything the characters have been through, which is very unusual in a Hollywood film these days.
Brachiator
@lamh36:
There are two briefcases carrying identical cards of the winners. This is so that a card can be given to a presenter whether they enter from stage left or stage right.
Somebody messed up big time. The two people who are responsible for the cards and briefcases know who the winners are in case a wrong announcement is made.
But somebody still screwed up hugely.
? Martin
@Brachiator:
Temporarily Max McGee (Until Death!)
@Mnemosyne:
I thought Arrival ended on a pretty positive note, too. And I think it did the best job, using the tools of the medium, to tell its story. Twenty years from now people will still be watching it, and they’ll still be watching Hell Or Highwater on their merits (Hacksaw Ridge will probably have its long-term audience, too, but as war porn, so…).
janelle
@mouse tolliver: There are two envelopes for every award given, and only two people (accountants with PricewaterhouseCoopers) have them, and they sit on opposite ends of the stage all night. They are also the only two people on earth who know the results before they are announced, since they personally tabulate the votes and place the correct cards in the envelopes in their highly secured briefcases before the show – they make winner cards for every single nominee so that the printers don’t know who actually won. They take turns handing the envelopes to the presenters, and by the end of the night, they should still have a total of 24 envelopes left between them for the 24 awards given. Presumably, the accountant who had the duplicate “Actress in a Leading Role” envelope mistakenly handed that to Beatty Rather than the “Picture of the Year” envelope. There are pictures all over Twitter showing that the envelope Beatty had clearly had the words “Actress in a Leading Role” printed on the outside.
Mnemosyne
@Temporarily Max McGee (Until Death!):
Right but, contrary to Hollywood’s reputation, most of the classic romances end unhappily: Casablanca, The Way We Were, Annie Hall. So it was nice to see a romantic film with an optimistic ending. Which is also one of the requirements to call your book a “romance novel,” which is why I would write the essay specifically for my romance writers’ group.
Villago Delenda Est
@Mnemosyne: While Casablanca didn’t end happily for Rick and Isle, it marked the beginning of a beautiful friendship between Rick and Captain Renault…
Temporarily Max McGee (Until Death!)
@Villago Delenda Est:
‘zactly. And Annie Hall, while not having the happy ending (huhhuh, he wrote, “…happy ending…”), I didn’t necessarily end tragically, either- Alvy and Annie just sort of drifted apart, in a friendly sort of way. The Way We Were is a pretty simple melodrama- I find something like The Umbrellas of Cherbourg more devestating in the end.
@Mnemosyne:
Did Cinema Paradiso win an Oscar for Best Foreign film? It might be something more like a bromance than a romance, but that’s got a pretty uplifting ending. ETA: I realize it wasn’t a Hollywood romance film.
mouse tolliver
@janelle: Then maybe the Price Waterhouse people jinxed themselves because they were just talking about this.
“Don’t give Warren Beatty the wrong envelope. Don’t give Warren Beatty the wrong envelope. Don’t give Warren Beatty the wrong envelope… Aw, shit! I just gave Warren Beatty the wrong envelope!”
Temporarily Max McGee (Until Death!)
@Mnemosyne:
Upon more thought, I think it’s unfair to compare the romance in Moonlight to those in the other three you listed because the romance in the film is only just beginning. Casablanca’s romance could end on a positive note if the film ended before the Nazis invaded France, ya know? Every romance begins optimistically, but even the best ends, ultimately, in someone’s death.
Mnemosyne
@Temporarily Max McGee (Until Death!):
You’re missing the point by about 5 miles, and I’m really not sure how to get you on track at this point.
I write in a specific genre of fiction. That genre of fiction has specific rules. Moonlight fits those rules. The other films do not.
Or, to put it another way, I’m explaining blackjack to you, and you keep trying to argue that poker is basically the same game.
opiejeanne
@Mnemosyne: I read on Twitter that there are two identical sets of 24 cards, one set at each side of the stage. That sort of explains why there was a second Emma Stone envelope. I saw a photo someone posted of the envelope that was purported to be the problem one, and it said ACTRESS, LEADING ROLE. on it.
Citizen Alan
I remember the year when crash beat Brokeback Mountain. Jack Nicholson was the one who read the best picture award. And for some reason there was a Bizarre conspiracy theory that Nicholson and a Coterie of older homophobic Hollywood stars had agreed to Simply read something other than Brokeback Mountain off the card. Which was none since and I saw lots of people talk about it online at the time.
Citizen Alan
I remember the year when crash beat Brokeback Mountain. Jack Nicholson was the one who read the best picture award. And for some reason there was a Bizarre conspiracy theory that Nicholson and a Coterie of older homophobic Hollywood stars had agreed to Simply read something other than Brokeback Mountain off the card. Which was none since and I saw lots of people talk about it online at the time.
? Martin
Things move pretty fast around here.
amk
Patricia Kayden
@Dog Dawg Damn: True. Hubby and I turned off the tv in disgust when La La Land was announced as the top film. Just finding out about Moonlight’s win. Yay!!
JerryRich
@? Martin: By the time the Oscar ceremony was held the film’s (2001: A Space Odyssey) greatness was recognized, but it was too late.
janelle
@opiejeanne: More than that, only two people in the building even have access to those cards before they are opened – two accountants from PricewaterhouseCoopers, both of whom know all of the winners before they are announced (and they’re the only two people on the planet with that information). Their names are Brian Cullinan and Martha L. Ruiz, and they both tweeted pictures before the show of the super top secret briefcases each of them had containing the envelopes – and clearly one of them fucked up. PwC has acknowledged that the mistake is 100% on them, but they haven’t indicated which of the two accountants was responsible for the epic fail.
Seth Owen
@Anne Laurie: it’s funny. The real best picture (The one time verifies) is almost always one of the nominees, but often isn’t the winner.
Shana
@Mnemosyne: I remember a story from another play where someone from the audience went on stage to plug in their phone in a (I assume non-working since it’s scenery) outlet. During the play, not at intermission.
zhena gogolia
@Mike J:
lololololol
zhena gogolia
@sigaba:
another lolololol
zmulls
Clearly the fault of the PWC guy (whichever one still had a Best Actress envelope), and the fault of Faye Dunaway. Beatty was formulating a game plan, not sure how to best handle it. He showed it to Dunaway, as if to say “See? It’s the wrong card, that’s why I’m stalling for time. Do you believe they gave us the wrong card?” and Dunaway just looks at the card and says “LA LA LAND!” without thinking.
I’m not into all the hate on LA LA LAND. I enjoyed it immensely for what it was, and how hard it was to pull off a “musical in a modern film mode.” Every time they showed a clip I wanted to rush out and see it again. I had forgotten that song near the beginning with the four women getting ready to go out, the camera swooping continuously from room to room. I would have been happy had it actually won, and it deserved the awards it did win (with the possible exception of Actress, I haven’t seen ELLE yet).
I am eager to see MOONLIGHT and may get out to see it today. Everything I”ve heard says it’s a beautiful movie and probably deserved Best Picture. But I don’t enjoy seeing the praise for MOONLIGHT so often accompanied by denigrating LA LA LAND, which was a huge achievement in its own right.
(I will force myself to see MANCHESTER BY THE SEA at some point, as I admire Kenneth Lonergan’s work. I am not thrilled at the idea of having to watch, and possibly even admire, Casey Affleck)
JGabriel
Anne Laurie @ Top:
The Best Picture Wrong-Card Flub is understandably the big story, but I can’t help feeling that it’s overshadowing what should have been a big story coming out of the Oscars: all the winners and nominees who couldn’t or didn’t show because of Trump’s immigration policies.
Seems like the Oscar mix-up turned out to be a bit of lucky break for Crooked Donald.
opiejeanne
@? Martin: My neighborhood would confuse the heck out of that system. They’d get it wrong. The Republicans here don’t drive pickups, but a couple of the Democrats do. Lots of sedans and SUVs among the Democrats. And yes, we do know who most of them are.
Rob Lll
My partner was recently inducted into the Academy and worked on one of the nominated files, so we got to attend. First time ever for both of us. It was great fun and since we don’t know if we’ll ever get to go again, I’m glad we went to an Oscars that people will remember, if only for the biggest screw-up in the show’s history.
As weird as it must’ve been to watch that moment on TV, it was absolutely loony to be in the auditorium as it happened. Totally chaotic — people in our section had already started to stream out towards the exits, then a bunch rushed backed in. I thought it was a prank at first. After Warren Beatty explained what happened, the elderly and rather drunk lady sitting next to me turned and said “Well, if you’re gonna f**k up, make it a beaut”. Good times.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@zmulls:
I don’t get the unbridled glee some are showing about not just the movie losing, but how it lost. I’ve not seen La-la Land. But why chortle over creative people being brought on stage and facing confusion and embarrassment?
So much for going high when they go low, huh?
canuckistani
Yeah, I’m not sure I get the La La Land hate either, unless it had been adopted by some online white nationalists and became a symbol of the resurgence of the white race or something (in spite of the presence of John Legend).
It was the People’s Choice Award winner at the Toronto International Film Festival this year, and the audience there has a history of picking pretty good films.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_International_Film_Festival)
Janelle
@lamh36: I wouldn’t read anything particularly nefarious into the “blue-eyed” wife comment, considering the guy who said it is named Jordan Horowitz. Unless Aryan-idolizing Judaism is a thing now.
Kathy Selden
Fred Berger = colossal douchebag
Kathy Selden
@West of the Rockies (been a while): Low is Fred Berger
Greg
Perhaps Variety shouldn’t report gossip, but rather report what actually happened. Warren Beatty was given the wrong envelope and when he realized it on stage, he showed it to Faye Dunaway. She jumped into conclusion that Emma Stone represented La la Land and therefore that was the winner.
“Warren Beatty makes mistake” – Variety. Is Variety saying that he made a mistake by showing it to Faye, because she’s not to be trusted? Or she is too impatient? Or not capable to think under pressure as a woman? Shame on you Variety!
Olden
@Janelle: @lamh36: The problem is in the perpetuation of a white standard of beauty — and in setting that assumption.