I’m rooting for Moana, so LMM can become a member of the EGOT award winners
6.
Villago Delenda Est
In your cheeto-face, Donald! should be the name of one of the threads.
7.
lamh36
@brandonspears
Something tells me that’s probably not the meanest tweet about Casey Affleck on Twitter dot com. #Oscars
8.
Mnemosyne
I probably need to put my phone down so I don’t accidentally break it when LMM loses to these lame-ass songs.
I mean, John Legend is doing his best, but …
9.
ThresherK
@Village Delando Est from downstairs: Show of hands, who else saw that Simpsons episode and immediately told their family, “Hey! That’s not a song from Paint Your Wagon“.
10.
Villago Delenda Est
BTW, it seems that the Donald fan base hates it very much if you refer to the shitgibbon as “Donald.”
11.
patroclus
@lamh36: It was a good one though. So was the one about Whoopi.
12.
SiubhanDuinne
Adam, you’re just doing that apostrophe now to piss off NotMax, aren’t you?
13.
Villago Delenda Est
@ThresherK: The other problem is that Lee Marvin wasn’t in Paint Your Wagon, but of course, that’s not the real joke, either. Or Lee Van Cleef, too.
14.
patroclus
I liked Paint Your Wagon! But I liked Cat Ballou better.
@SiubhanDuinne: We haven’t seen Steeplejack in a while, so basically I’m doing the red flag in front of a bull to see if he shows up so we know he’s okay.
Peeved, perhaps. Maybe irked or vexed. But never pissed off when it comes to Adam.
20.
patroclus
@amk: No, but they did a good joke about it. Kimmel tweeted him and asked “u up” And then “Merylsezhi.”
21.
hovercraft
OT
Financier Philip Bilden has withdrawn himself from consideration to be the next Secretary of the Navy, several sources confirmed to USNI News on Sunday.
Sources in the White House and the Navy told USNI News that Bilden’s extensive financial holdings, much of which he earned while living in Hong Kong, would likely not meet the Office of Government Ethics standards to serve in the position.
The White House is scheduled to make the announcement this evening.
. I’m rooting for Moana, so LMM can become a member of the EGOT award winners
If Lin-Manuel Miranda wins an Oscar for composing music in Disney’s “Moana” he will be the third person ever to complete a PEGOT. P for Pulitzer Prize.
24.
Villago Delenda Est
@SiubhanDuinne: “You’re SUPPOSED to call him ‘Mr. President’ or ‘Mr. Trump’!!!!” This made this week’s Wonkette “Shit fer Brains” banhammered comments thread.
25.
dm
It says “open thread” so….
Here’s Tim Hwang talking about social-media bots, psy-ops, and international law. Mostly bots and psy-ops:
The Columbia Chemical plant case involved fake Wikipedia page, a fake news site, and seems to have been run out of Russia — in 2014.
26.
Adam L Silverman
@amk: I have no idea. I’m neither watching the Oscars, nor monitoring twitter. I’m getting ready to watch this week’s episode of (not) Finding Bigfoot (again, week #100 in a row).
I guess LA LA Land is starting to clean up. Oh, well.
30.
sigaba
I’m glad they didn’t do the lower-third crawl of thank-yous, that was so tasteless last year.
La La Land for original score.
31.
hovercraft
@amk:
The Governor’s Ball is tonight at the WH, so he should be busy with that. Between two blacks winning and two muslims, and all of the direct digs at him, by now he would have tweeted something. But as Kimmel said now we have something to look forward to during his 5 am dump tomorrow morning.
32.
lamh36
Alright Kimmel…enough with the skits…let’s get this damn thing done at least by 11!
33.
Adam L Silverman
@hovercraft: Yep, so they’re now down two SecArmy nominees and one SecNavy nominee.
34.
mouse tolliver
@patroclus: I love Cat Ballou! For some reason The Ballad of Cat Ballou drives my dog crazy if I sing it to him.
The Governor’s Ball is tonight at the WH, so he should be busy with that.
What’s funny is the “Governors’ Ball” is also the big party all the AA winners go to after the awards too — in this case its the Governors of the Academy. I saw that in the Twitter feed they put up and I was like, “that’s weird, is Trump going to the Governors’ Ball?”
48.
mouse tolliver
If those were really the best two songs from La La Land it can go on my wait till it’s free on AMC list.
49.
patroclus
In Memoriam reminds me of the Talking Dead, which I’m missing tonight.
Wouldn’t be the Academy Awards if it didn’t run overtime.
Tradition.
51.
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: We’re through two SecArmy nominees already. The only reason the average shelf life for a Service Secretary nominee is above four weeks is that the SecAir Force nominee hasn’t withdrawn yet.
52.
Adam L Silverman
@amk: I just want to see if they can find my cousin Phil. No one has seen or heard from him in years and we’re getting worried. Not a single tree knock out of that guy.
Aren’t these the same people who insisted on calling our previous president “Barry”?
And a Kenyan. And those were the nicer things.
55.
amk
Aside from boring oscar’s (sic)
The father of a US Navy Seal killed in a raid on a suspected al-Qaeda compound in Yemen last month has said that he refused to meet US President Donald Trump when his son’s body arrived home.
“I’m sorry, I don’t want to see him,” he said he told a chaplain at the time.
The raid on 28 January was the first such operation authorised by Mr Trump.
Bill Owens, whose son William “Ryan” Owens was killed, told the Miami Herald that “the government owes my son an investigation”.
“Why at this time did there have to be this stupid mission when it wasn’t even barely a week into his administration? Why?” he said in an interview with the newspaper published on Sunday.
@Mnemosyne: I’m not. But i am drinking this soothing tea. No fluids or food after midnight, but I’ll be asleep since I have to be up by 5:30. too early
63.
amk
@Adam L Silverman: doesn’t everyone has a missing cousin named Phil?
The figures below show Trump indeed has had the least successful run of Senate confirmations since George H.W. Bush back in 1989.
[…]
But the administration’s ability to install political appointees goes far beyond those that require Senate confirmation. High-ranking roles like Cabinet officials draw the most public attention — and at times, controversy. But every president also gets to fill hundreds of other jobs throughout the federal government.
For many such roles, Senate opposition is a non-factor: Those appointees can be named directly by the president or his top officials.
Yet, as of Thursday, Trump had at least 1,987 vacancies within his new administration, most of which did not require Senate confirmation, according to data from tracking service Leadership Directories reviewed by CNN.
“Well oiled machine…”
:-/
But, hey, he wants to bulk up the Pentagon budget and cut State’s and EPA’s, so it’s all good, amirite?!
Cheers,
Scott.
73.
Suzanne
Why does Matt Damon keep getting shit on? Is this an ongoing joke I don’t know about?
It’s schtick. They’ve been doing it on Kimmel’s show for years, and Damon usually gets his own back at some point.
75.
Suzanne
I kinda think Matt Damon is adorable.
76.
Brachiator
Screenplay awards. Love for Manchester by the Sea and…
Moonlight!!!
Yes
77.
lamh36
Adapted Screenplay goes to Moonlight!
Woohoo!
likely only award chance they have is maybe Picture or Director, I expect either 1 or none, but NOT both
78.
mouse tolliver
@Mnemosyne: After “we don’t need diversity behind the camera” and “gay actors should keep their sexuality private” he deserves to get shit on for real.
79.
hovercraft
@amk:
He thought Kazir Khan was a pain in his ass, this man lost his son because Twitler wanted a quick easy “win” to show how tough he is.
80.
lamh36
Alright…4 more awards to go…wrap this up Kimmel!
#Oscars
BTW, it seems that the Donald fan base hates it very much if you refer to the shitgibbon as “Donald.”
That’s because Donald hates it. He insisted on being called “Mr. Trump.” That’s why Hillary called him Donald throughout the debates.
86.
debbie
Halle Barrie does sheer skirt a whole lot better than Scarlett Johannsen.
87.
Adam L Silverman
@Another Scott: I can honestly say that a lot of this is because any Republican/conservative that would ordinarily be considered for one of these positions but was a NeverTrumper or is considered to not have been supportive enough is being excluded. My understanding is this also means that any attempt to pull anyone who would be considered for one of these positions who is either Independent or affiliated with a non-partisan organization or a Democrat are also being excluded. This significantly narrows the field.
Ask me no questions, I’ll tell you no lies.
88.
lamh36
With MOONLIGHT’s screenplay win, this Oscar telecast just set a record: It’s the first ever to feature more than 3 black winners.
89.
Brachiator
LA LA Land for Best Director. And probably Best Picture.
90.
mouse tolliver
Halle must’ve borrowed that Death Becomes Her potion from Meryl.
Though you notice that what always happens on “Project Greenlight” happened this last time: the director looks like a whiny POS and the line producer is the hero. Which meant that Effie Jones was the hero once the series was over, and Damon just ended up looking like a dick.
All this Kimmel/Damon feud fol-de-rol is reminding me of that time Sarah Silverman told Kimmel she was fucking Matt Damon.
It’s all part of the same running joke/feud/joke-feud.
96.
hovercraft
@amk:
True. But the night Obama roasted him was also the night of the Bin Laden raid, so even if this had gone off without a hitch, Bin Laden would still be dead, nothing achieved would have compared.
97.
gwangung
@hovercraft: Not that the Apricot Shitgibbon would have ever, ever realized that…
He could have made a frickin’ effort with a speech. Sheesh.
102.
mouse tolliver
It seems like every other year Best Picture goes to a movie that is in one way or another about show business or the entertainment industry.
Shakespeare In Love
Gladiator (“Are you not entertained?!”)
Chicago
Million Dollar Baby (boxing)
Slumdog Millionaire (game shows)
The King’s Speech (he needed help from an actor)
The Artist
Argo (a love letter to Hollywood more than anything else)
Birdman (Ugh!)
Half the Academy probably voted for Spotlight because they thought it was about acting.
103.
ruemara
Ok, so best actor goes to the sexual abuser? Not surprised.
It seems like every other year Best Picture goes to a movie that is in one way or another about show business or the entertainment industry.
YOU NOTICED! :) The trend in the last few years has been really thick.
Wade Major was on the KPCC Filmweek podcast and he basically gave the most positive theoretical defense of La La Land I’ve heard, I work in the business and I completely agreed.
La La Land is theoretically about how people in Hollywood are at this sort of moment of crisis, where all of us came to LA to make the movies we fell in love with, movies from the 70s and 80s and 90s, and all of the things that made those movies what they are are slipping away.
When Gosling talks about how Jazz is dying, that’s really Chazelle talking about Hollywood, and about the futility of the fact that Chazelle is finally at this point where he can make basically whatever movie he wants, but all the creative forces that brought all of us to Hollywood are depleting and all people want to make now are 9 minute videos that sell toys to Chinese kids.
So yeah, Academy voters are going to get sucked into something like that.
The largest contingent of Academy voters is actors.
Not only that, there’s a very strong age bias toward people who first really made it in the late 70s and desperately want to see movies like the ones they were making at the nose end of the Second Golden Age.
121.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@Mnemosyne: he probably thought it would be bad mojo to come up with a speech. after all, his brother and matt damon didn’t have a speech either when they won for best screenplay for good will hunting.
@Mnemosyne: The trouble is all those women trying to ruin things for these poor men.
132.
sigaba
HOLLLYY SHIITTTTTTTT
Somebody check Warren’s prescription
133.
Eljai
WTF!? Moonlight won! Yay! That was one hell of a head fake!
134.
CaseyL
Oh. My. Fucking. God.
135.
mouse tolliver
Oscar history! They gave the Oscar to the wrong movie — La La Land. And then they had to give it back — to Moonlight. Because Faye Dunaway read the wrong name.
Like that Jack Palance urban legend. But for real.
136.
lamh36
What the fuq just happened
137.
wmd
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
138.
CaseyL
Well, I’m glad I watched. I doubt there’s been a more mortifying moment (yep, even more so than Jack Palance) and I got to watch it live. And I’m so very glad Moonlight won!
@lamh36: Me too, WTF? I muted & started looking at Twitter.
143.
CaseyL
@Dog Dawg Damn: At the Oscars years ago, when he was nominated for Best Supporting for City Slickers, he made a weird speech and then got down on the floor and did pushups.
Well, AWESOME. Moonlight was absolutely tremendous. Well deserved. Oscars sooooooo much better.
154.
mouse tolliver
@Dog Dawg Damn: After Marisa Tomei won Best Supporting Actress for My Cousin Vinnie (even though Judy Davis was the predicted winner for Husbands and Wives) some bitter film snobs claimed elderly presenter Jack Palance gave the award to the wrong actress because he read the last name on the teleprompter instead of the name in the envelope.
How did they realize the mistake? I was looking away from the TV at that crucial instant. Did Warren or Faye take another look at the card and go “Holy Shit, we goofed”?
@CaseyL: They looked all flustered when they opened the envelope. It looks like someone gave them the wrong envelope.
161.
patroclus
They gave Warren the wrong card – it said “Emma Stone, LA LA Land.” That’s why he looked flummoxed and took 20 seconds to announce it. Then he announced it, the speeches started and the accountants came out and passed the real card around, and the speeches stopped and then the LA LA Land producer announced it.
We left the Oscar party we were at! We heard a big gasp as we were walking out, but we didn’t go back to see what happened.
166.
Groucho48
it took a few minutes. The LaLa Land folks all got up on stage and gave their speeches and then Kimmel and a few other folks came up to the microphone and said there had been a mistake. Took a few moments to sink in as people realized he wasn’t joking.
The presenters were Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway. When Beatty opened the envelope, he looked very confused and I thought he might be having a senior moment. he finally showed it to Dunaway, who said LaLa land had won. Later, Beatty said the card said Emma Stone for LaLa Land. If so, he got the wrong card. Wouldn’t be surprised if Dunaway and he hadn’t shown the card to someone to see what was what.
167.
Tenar Arha
@Wag: Seriously. It was the wrong envelope apparently. In a reply to FILM CRIT HULK it appears that Warren Beatty was handed the envelope which said “Emma Stone – La La Land” rather than the Best Picture envelope.
ETA It’s hilarious, & ridiculous. But it’s definitely a result much easier to live with than Nov. 8
168.
lamh36
@Mnemosyne: right…it’s like ordering something in drive thru getting home and realizing it was the wrong order, but this time ya took it back!
169.
CaseyL
@lamh36: The telecast was like a well-oiled machine… until that moment.
170.
Ugh
Fucking PricewaterhouseCoopers
171.
Peale
@lamh36: as an employee of a competitor of PwC….hahahahaha!
And after mocking Trump half the night, even tweeting him….
181.
CaseyL
@Mnemosyne: I just saw it and I think it was the LaLa Land guy (director?) who realized the mistake, possibly when he looked at the award he was holding and saw the title. Because he’s the one who said “There’s been a mistake,” and then that he was honored to hand the Oscar over to the actual winners.
Definitely a class act. Obviously, there are worse things to happen in the world, but that has be a kick in the gut.
ETA: It was Jordon Horowitz, LaLa Land’s producer, who realized the mistake and made the announcement.
Producer. Producers receive Best Picture awards. Sometimes the director is also a producer, too, but in this case he was not.
The card for Best Picture should have the film title above the producers’ names. Beatty got a card that read “LaLa Land/Emma Stone”, and, having a bit of experience presenting awards, knew something was off. Dunaway, who hasn’t presented an award in decades- if ever- thought he was joking around and just read, “LaLa Land.” She must not have noticed Stone’s name there, or she didn’t know that the producers’ names should have been there instead.
188.
mouse tolliver
Seriously though. This is good news for La La Land. There’s been increasing backlash pointing out some deal-breaking flaws. Right now it’s a profitable cult favorite. An actual win would’ve cemented its reputation as an overrated failure — ranking it alongside hated movies like Crash, Shakespeare In Love or The English Patient.
amk
Really, Adam?
JGabriel
I’m thinking one of these Oscar’s Open Threads should be called Asghar’s Open Thread and feature a picture of Farhadi.
lamh36
Alight…so Viola Davis needs to win a Grammy award to become a member of the EGOT award club!
Let’s find her a good audio book…STAT!
Her voice is perfect for a good audiobook
Adam L Silverman
@amk: No, you’re imagining things again.
lamh36
I’m rooting for Moana, so LMM can become a member of the EGOT award winners
Villago Delenda Est
In your cheeto-face, Donald! should be the name of one of the threads.
lamh36
Mnemosyne
I probably need to put my phone down so I don’t accidentally break it when LMM loses to these lame-ass songs.
I mean, John Legend is doing his best, but …
ThresherK
@Village Delando Est from downstairs: Show of hands, who else saw that Simpsons episode and immediately told their family, “Hey! That’s not a song from Paint Your Wagon“.
Villago Delenda Est
BTW, it seems that the Donald fan base hates it very much if you refer to the shitgibbon as “Donald.”
patroclus
@lamh36: It was a good one though. So was the one about Whoopi.
SiubhanDuinne
Adam, you’re just doing that apostrophe now to piss off NotMax, aren’t you?
Villago Delenda Est
@ThresherK: The other problem is that Lee Marvin wasn’t in Paint Your Wagon, but of course, that’s not the real joke, either. Or Lee Van Cleef, too.
patroclus
I liked Paint Your Wagon! But I liked Cat Ballou better.
SiubhanDuinne
@Villago Delenda Est:
Why?
amk
@Adam L Silverman: panderer.
so, twitler
weighed inbitched & moaned yet?debbie
@Villago Delenda Est:
Good to know. Anything to poke at them.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: We haven’t seen Steeplejack in a while, so basically I’m doing the red flag in front of a bull to see if he shows up so we know he’s okay.
NotMax
@SiubhanDuinne
Peeved, perhaps. Maybe irked or vexed. But never pissed off when it comes to Adam.
patroclus
@amk: No, but they did a good joke about it. Kimmel tweeted him and asked “u up” And then “Merylsezhi.”
hovercraft
OT
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: Also, Jack Klugman’s character was named Oscar.
Brachiator
@lamh36:
If Lin-Manuel Miranda wins an Oscar for composing music in Disney’s “Moana” he will be the third person ever to complete a PEGOT. P for Pulitzer Prize.
Villago Delenda Est
@SiubhanDuinne: “You’re SUPPOSED to call him ‘Mr. President’ or ‘Mr. Trump’!!!!” This made this week’s Wonkette “Shit fer Brains” banhammered comments thread.
dm
It says “open thread” so….
Here’s Tim Hwang talking about social-media bots, psy-ops, and international law. Mostly bots and psy-ops:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxEBxUOBhjQ
Some great stories, including a weird case involving a hoax about an explosion in a chemical plant in Louisiana (more details on that: https://render.betaworks.com/media-hacking-3b1e350d619c
The Columbia Chemical plant case involved fake Wikipedia page, a fake news site, and seems to have been run out of Russia — in 2014.
Adam L Silverman
@amk: I have no idea. I’m neither watching the Oscars, nor monitoring twitter. I’m getting ready to watch this week’s episode of (not) Finding Bigfoot (again, week #100 in a row).
Adam L Silverman
@NotMax: I’ll have to up my game.//
efgoldman
@Villago Delenda Est:
Ahem…
Brachiator
I guess LA LA Land is starting to clean up. Oh, well.
sigaba
I’m glad they didn’t do the lower-third crawl of thank-yous, that was so tasteless last year.
La La Land for original score.
hovercraft
@amk:
The Governor’s Ball is tonight at the WH, so he should be busy with that. Between two blacks winning and two muslims, and all of the direct digs at him, by now he would have tweeted something. But as Kimmel said now we have something to look forward to during his 5 am dump tomorrow morning.
lamh36
Alright Kimmel…enough with the skits…let’s get this damn thing done at least by 11!
Adam L Silverman
@hovercraft: Yep, so they’re now down two SecArmy nominees and one SecNavy nominee.
mouse tolliver
@patroclus: I love Cat Ballou! For some reason The Ballad of Cat Ballou drives my dog crazy if I sing it to him.
hovercraft
@lamh36:
It’s 11.16 on the east coast !
Villago Delenda Est
@efgoldman: Well, this is what I get for not doing my usual 35 second research over at IMDB.
patroclus
@lamh36: Not a chance. I predict 11:23 (CST).
Mnemosyne
Boo!
Suzanne
Ugh. Lame-ass La La Land song.
dm
Adam, if you want an Oscar probably only Anne Laurie will know about, there’s Oscar from Rose of Versailles
efgoldman
@hovercraft:
So, here we are at the end of February without a Sec of the Army or the Navy.
What the hell, maybe we’ll find out we’re better off.
Or not.
amk
@Adam L Silverman: nerd!
ruemara
12 hours before I’m at the surgeon’s and I really wish I had eaten more food. But I don’t actually have any more food. it’s all at my friend’s
@Adam L Silverman: One day, I swear, Bigfoot is gonna send a text saying he was in Topeka.
Mnemosyne
@Villago Delenda Est:
Aren’t these the same people who insisted on calling our previous president “Barry”?
efgoldman
@Adam L Silverman:
And he was also a grouch, tool.
lamh36
@Brachiator: Yep…this is the LaLa Land part of the telecast…
sigaba
@hovercraft:
What’s funny is the “Governors’ Ball” is also the big party all the AA winners go to after the awards too — in this case its the Governors of the Academy. I saw that in the Twitter feed they put up and I was like, “that’s weird, is Trump going to the Governors’ Ball?”
mouse tolliver
If those were really the best two songs from La La Land it can go on my wait till it’s free on AMC list.
patroclus
In Memoriam reminds me of the Talking Dead, which I’m missing tonight.
NotMax
@lamh36
Wouldn’t be the Academy Awards if it didn’t run overtime.
Tradition.
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: We’re through two SecArmy nominees already. The only reason the average shelf life for a Service Secretary nominee is above four weeks is that the SecAir Force nominee hasn’t withdrawn yet.
Adam L Silverman
@amk: I just want to see if they can find my cousin Phil. No one has seen or heard from him in years and we’re getting worried. Not a single tree knock out of that guy.
chopper
@ThresherK:
gonna use oil-based paint,
cause that wood is piiiiiiine
efgoldman
@Mnemosyne:
And a Kenyan. And those were the nicer things.
amk
Aside from boring oscar’s (sic)
why indeed?
Mnemosyne
@ruemara:
Don’t eat more food! It would just upset your stomach tonight anyway.
mouse tolliver
@patroclus: It made me think of Alan Rickman.
Villago Delenda Est
@Mnemosyne: Well, as new DNC chair Perez says, we should show Donald Trump all the courtesy that Yertle the Turtle did Barack Obama. None.
lamh36
@NotMax: True dat!
Brachiator
Cool “Rolex Goes to the Movies” commercial.
mouse tolliver
This We Bought A Zoo segment is hilarious.
ruemara
@Mnemosyne: I’m not. But i am drinking this soothing tea. No fluids or food after midnight, but I’ll be asleep since I have to be up by 5:30. too early
amk
@Adam L Silverman: doesn’t everyone has a missing cousin named Phil?
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
Oh, I know that. I got the joke. I was thinking an Oscar Mayer Wiener image would work for Oscar’s Open Thread III.
Mnemosyne
I admit, the whole Matt Damon harassment is cracking me up.
lamh36
I do love when Kimmel trolls Matt Damon…
Adam L Silverman
@amk: But how many have a missing cousin named Phil who is a sasquatch?
debbie
@Mnemosyne:
Is it schtick? Also, is Jennifer Anniston looking more orange than usual?
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: I expect to be asleep by the time we’d need a 3rd thread on this.
Mnemosyne
So “LaLa Land” is not unbeatable.
I hope “Moonlight” wins adapted screenplay.
dm
Josh Marshall writes on the myriad connections between Trump’s personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, and Ukraine.
Another Scott
@efgoldman: Trump still has to fill nearly 2000 vacancies…
“Well oiled machine…”
:-/
But, hey, he wants to bulk up the Pentagon budget and cut State’s and EPA’s, so it’s all good, amirite?!
Cheers,
Scott.
Suzanne
Why does Matt Damon keep getting shit on? Is this an ongoing joke I don’t know about?
Mnemosyne
@debbie:
It’s schtick. They’ve been doing it on Kimmel’s show for years, and Damon usually gets his own back at some point.
Suzanne
I kinda think Matt Damon is adorable.
Brachiator
Screenplay awards. Love for Manchester by the Sea and…
Moonlight!!!
Yes
lamh36
Adapted Screenplay goes to Moonlight!
Woohoo!
likely only award chance they have is maybe Picture or Director, I expect either 1 or none, but NOT both
mouse tolliver
@Mnemosyne: After “we don’t need diversity behind the camera” and “gay actors should keep their sexuality private” he deserves to get shit on for real.
hovercraft
@amk:
He thought Kazir Khan was a pain in his ass, this man lost his son because Twitler wanted a quick easy “win” to show how tough he is.
lamh36
Alright…4 more awards to go…wrap this up Kimmel!
#Oscars
leeleeFL
@patroclus: Word!
amk
@hovercraft: nah, he did it ‘cos da kenyan said no. incompetent idiot.
debbie
@Mnemosyne:
Trying to play Damon off the stage was very funny.
lamh36
Alright…I think I’m 5 for 9 of the categories I gave predictions for…let’s go for a perfect score!
Redshift
@Villago Delenda Est:
That’s because Donald hates it. He insisted on being called “Mr. Trump.” That’s why Hillary called him Donald throughout the debates.
debbie
Halle Barrie does sheer skirt a whole lot better than Scarlett Johannsen.
Adam L Silverman
@Another Scott: I can honestly say that a lot of this is because any Republican/conservative that would ordinarily be considered for one of these positions but was a NeverTrumper or is considered to not have been supportive enough is being excluded. My understanding is this also means that any attempt to pull anyone who would be considered for one of these positions who is either Independent or affiliated with a non-partisan organization or a Democrat are also being excluded. This significantly narrows the field.
Ask me no questions, I’ll tell you no lies.
lamh36
Brachiator
LA LA Land for Best Director. And probably Best Picture.
mouse tolliver
Halle must’ve borrowed that Death Becomes Her potion from Meryl.
Mnemosyne
@mouse tolliver:
Though you notice that what always happens on “Project Greenlight” happened this last time: the director looks like a whiny POS and the line producer is the hero. Which meant that Effie Jones was the hero once the series was over, and Damon just ended up looking like a dick.
JGabriel
@mouse tolliver:
All this Kimmel/Damon feud fol-de-rol is reminding me of that time Sarah Silverman told Kimmel she was fucking Matt Damon.
lamh36
Best Director from La La Land…that makes my total 6 for 9!
Also means, that it for wins from Moonlight, unless it wins for Best Picture?
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
Probably, but sometimes they split the award, like for “Gravity” and “12 Years A Slave.”
Temporarily Max McGee (Until Death!)
@JGabriel:
It’s all part of the same running joke/feud/joke-feud.
hovercraft
@amk:
True. But the night Obama roasted him was also the night of the Bin Laden raid, so even if this had gone off without a hitch, Bin Laden would still be dead, nothing achieved would have compared.
gwangung
@hovercraft: Not that the Apricot Shitgibbon would have ever, ever realized that…
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@debbie: very pretty.
also too, loved her hair
lamh36
ugh…of course
sigaba
Holy shit we live in a world where Casey Affleck is a Best Actor.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
He could have made a frickin’ effort with a speech. Sheesh.
mouse tolliver
It seems like every other year Best Picture goes to a movie that is in one way or another about show business or the entertainment industry.
Shakespeare In Love
Gladiator (“Are you not entertained?!”)
Chicago
Million Dollar Baby (boxing)
Slumdog Millionaire (game shows)
The King’s Speech (he needed help from an actor)
The Artist
Argo (a love letter to Hollywood more than anything else)
Birdman (Ugh!)
Half the Academy probably voted for Spotlight because they thought it was about acting.
ruemara
Ok, so best actor goes to the sexual abuser? Not surprised.
Mnemosyne
@mouse tolliver:
The largest contingent of Academy voters is actors. Plus Hollywood loves to see movies about Hollywood, so …
patroclus
Oh well – Casey wins. Great movie – I highly recommend it!
lamh36
Anyway…Denzel is the winner in my heart
Darkrose
@ruemara: I was hoping otherwise, but nope.
sigaba
HA Portman didn’t even show!
Suzanne
That clip from Meryl’s movie was fabulous.
Feathers
@Suzanne: Google “I Fucked Matt Damon,” a song done on the Kimmell show by Kimmell’s then girlfriend, Sarah Silverman.
Villago Delenda Est
@mouse tolliver: Hollywood loves to celebrate itself. The Oscars is the ultimate expression of that.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
Emma Stone the first Chinese actress to win an Oscar.
Mnemosyne
@sigaba:
Isn’t she, like, super pregnant right now? She was in one of the pre-filmed skits with a huge belly.
lamh36
Dog Dawg Damn
If La La Land wins Best Picture, I’m done. The Dems are over, and they can have 8 years of Trump. #DemExit
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@sigaba: she’s pregnant
Mnemosyne
@ruemara:
He. Didn’t. Even. Have. A. Speech.
WTF?
lamh36
@Mnemosyne:
lamh36
I’d love to say this is something Denzel is used to, but then I remember he’s only ever been nominated for 5 Oscars including this one…
sigaba
@mouse tolliver:
YOU NOTICED! :) The trend in the last few years has been really thick.
Wade Major was on the KPCC Filmweek podcast and he basically gave the most positive theoretical defense of La La Land I’ve heard, I work in the business and I completely agreed.
La La Land is theoretically about how people in Hollywood are at this sort of moment of crisis, where all of us came to LA to make the movies we fell in love with, movies from the 70s and 80s and 90s, and all of the things that made those movies what they are are slipping away.
When Gosling talks about how Jazz is dying, that’s really Chazelle talking about Hollywood, and about the futility of the fact that Chazelle is finally at this point where he can make basically whatever movie he wants, but all the creative forces that brought all of us to Hollywood are depleting and all people want to make now are 9 minute videos that sell toys to Chinese kids.
So yeah, Academy voters are going to get sucked into something like that.
@Mnemosyne:
Not only that, there’s a very strong age bias toward people who first really made it in the late 70s and desperately want to see movies like the ones they were making at the nose end of the Second Golden Age.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@Mnemosyne: he probably thought it would be bad mojo to come up with a speech. after all, his brother and matt damon didn’t have a speech either when they won for best screenplay for good will hunting.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
But it’s okay, misogyny isn’t a problem in America. //
sigaba
I haven’t been a big fan of Kimmel but his enmity towards Matt Damon has been very entertaining.
Mnemosyne
No, seriously, is it just my bias, or were those songs from “LaLa Land” pretty lame?
Dog Dawg Damn
@Mnemosyne: La La Land is White Mediocrity, the Musical
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
I was really hoping Casey Affleck’s Oscar campaign would have been derailed, but never mind.
Congrats to him on the whole being white thing.
Suzanne
UGHHHHH.
Mnemosyne
Oh well. I was rooting for either “Moonlight” or “Hidden Figures,” which I actually saw.
Suzanne
@Mnemosyne: It is not just you. Everything about “La La Land” was a biiiiiiiig fucking snore.
sigaba
@Mnemosyne: Google Umbrellas of Cherbourg.
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
@Mnemosyne: The trouble is all those women trying to ruin things for these poor men.
sigaba
HOLLLYY SHIITTTTTTTT
Somebody check Warren’s prescription
Eljai
WTF!? Moonlight won! Yay! That was one hell of a head fake!
CaseyL
Oh. My. Fucking. God.
mouse tolliver
Oscar history! They gave the Oscar to the wrong movie — La La Land. And then they had to give it back — to Moonlight. Because Faye Dunaway read the wrong name.
Like that Jack Palance urban legend. But for real.
lamh36
What the fuq just happened
wmd
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
CaseyL
Well, I’m glad I watched. I doubt there’s been a more mortifying moment (yep, even more so than Jack Palance) and I got to watch it live. And I’m so very glad Moonlight won!
Suzanne
WTF.
Dog Dawg Damn
What is the Jack Palance moment?
Wag
Weird. I’m not sure what the hell
Just happened.
Tenar Arha
@lamh36: Me too, WTF? I muted & started looking at Twitter.
CaseyL
@Dog Dawg Damn: At the Oscars years ago, when he was nominated for Best Supporting for City Slickers, he made a weird speech and then got down on the floor and did pushups.
Wag
@Tenar Arha:
And what does twitter say? Is it trump’s fault? Or bernie’s? Wtf?
badsanta
I think it was a troll on the election.
mouse tolliver
@Mnemosyne: Those songs were lame. Even John Legend couldn’t make them sound good.
lamh36
what da fuq Warren Beatty
Somewhere Steve Harvey is laughing his azz off!
Westyny
That was wack.
sigaba
@Wag:
RIGGED!!!!!!!!
patroclus
LOL!!!! The Russians must have intervened!
Dog Dawg Damn
LA LA LAND WINNING WAS FAKE NEWS.
Darkrose
I turned if off in disgust too soon!
Suzanne
Well, AWESOME. Moonlight was absolutely tremendous. Well deserved. Oscars sooooooo much better.
mouse tolliver
@Dog Dawg Damn: After Marisa Tomei won Best Supporting Actress for My Cousin Vinnie (even though Judy Davis was the predicted winner for Husbands and Wives) some bitter film snobs claimed elderly presenter Jack Palance gave the award to the wrong actress because he read the last name on the teleprompter instead of the name in the envelope.
lamh36
lol…who’s this dude!’
Moonlight “best picture”
CaseyL
How did they realize the mistake? I was looking away from the TV at that crucial instant. Did Warren or Faye take another look at the card and go “Holy Shit, we goofed”?
Mnemosyne
@mouse tolliver:
Well, shit, that’s what we get for being Dodger fans and leaving while the speeches were happening. Now we’re trying to find the footage.
amk
so, they fucked up the biggest moment, eh?
lol chikinburd
Be a man. Be a Klug man.
Suzanne
@CaseyL: They looked all flustered when they opened the envelope. It looks like someone gave them the wrong envelope.
patroclus
They gave Warren the wrong card – it said “Emma Stone, LA LA Land.” That’s why he looked flummoxed and took 20 seconds to announce it. Then he announced it, the speeches started and the accountants came out and passed the real card around, and the speeches stopped and then the LA LA Land producer announced it.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
Whoever he is, he’s the most honest man in Hollywood. Damn.
lamh36
Glad Moonlight won, but damn…just imagine if the credits had start to roll and the Moonlight folks hadn’t gotten the chance.
Apparently Beatty was given the wrong envelope?
Someone saying it was from the previous category?
smh
amk
guess beatty was in la la land. overrated pos anyway.
Mnemosyne
@Darkrose:
We left the Oscar party we were at! We heard a big gasp as we were walking out, but we didn’t go back to see what happened.
Groucho48
it took a few minutes. The LaLa Land folks all got up on stage and gave their speeches and then Kimmel and a few other folks came up to the microphone and said there had been a mistake. Took a few moments to sink in as people realized he wasn’t joking.
The presenters were Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway. When Beatty opened the envelope, he looked very confused and I thought he might be having a senior moment. he finally showed it to Dunaway, who said LaLa land had won. Later, Beatty said the card said Emma Stone for LaLa Land. If so, he got the wrong card. Wouldn’t be surprised if Dunaway and he hadn’t shown the card to someone to see what was what.
Tenar Arha
@Wag: Seriously. It was the wrong envelope apparently. In a reply to FILM CRIT HULK it appears that Warren Beatty was handed the envelope which said “Emma Stone – La La Land” rather than the Best Picture envelope.
ETA It’s hilarious, & ridiculous. But it’s definitely a result much easier to live with than Nov. 8
lamh36
@Mnemosyne: right…it’s like ordering something in drive thru getting home and realizing it was the wrong order, but this time ya took it back!
CaseyL
@lamh36: The telecast was like a well-oiled machine… until that moment.
Ugh
Fucking PricewaterhouseCoopers
Peale
@lamh36: as an employee of a competitor of PwC….hahahahaha!
Suzanne
YOU HAD ONE JOB: OSCARS EDITION.
Mnemosyne
@CaseyL:
I think the “LaLa Land” guy figured it out, but we’re trying to find the clip.
Dog Dawg Damn
Pretty sure we’re in an alternate timeline, and it’s getting all glitchy.
lamh36
Dude at the beginning who snatched that card from Beatty is the real MVP…lol
https://twitter.com/TatianaKing/status/836083352142741505
ETA: @Mnemosyne: clip here
hilts
Thrilled that La La Land, a remarkably overrated movie, lost!
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@lamh36:
I suppose. Maybe he feels less alone in making a hugely embarrassing mistake.
FlipYrWhig
Has Bernie Sanders said yet that contempt for Casey Affleck is the reason why Democrats can’t win elections?
lamh36
Ugh
And after mocking Trump half the night, even tweeting him….
CaseyL
@Mnemosyne: I just saw it and I think it was the LaLa Land guy (director?) who realized the mistake, possibly when he looked at the award he was holding and saw the title. Because he’s the one who said “There’s been a mistake,” and then that he was honored to hand the Oscar over to the actual winners.
Definitely a class act. Obviously, there are worse things to happen in the world, but that has be a kick in the gut.
ETA: It was Jordon Horowitz, LaLa Land’s producer, who realized the mistake and made the announcement.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@CaseyL:
Yes, grace in what surely had to be an unpleasant moment. Kudos.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
And in the clip, you can hear Beatty say that he got it wrong. You could tell he felt awful about the mistake.
lamh36
Alright…let’s hope this WTF moment doesn’t take away from the fact that Moonlight wins BEST PICTURE Oscar 2017!
Congrats cast and crew.
This made my oscar pics 8 for 9, but i’m glad to have been wrong about Moonlight winning Best picture
Anne Laurie
New post up top, to discuss the BIG SHOCK ENDING.
Mnemosyne
@Dog Dawg Damn:
WHO KEEPS STEPPING ON BUTTERFLIES, GODDAMNIT?!?!!
Temporarily Max McGee (Until Death!)
@CaseyL:
Producer. Producers receive Best Picture awards. Sometimes the director is also a producer, too, but in this case he was not.
The card for Best Picture should have the film title above the producers’ names. Beatty got a card that read “LaLa Land/Emma Stone”, and, having a bit of experience presenting awards, knew something was off. Dunaway, who hasn’t presented an award in decades- if ever- thought he was joking around and just read, “LaLa Land.” She must not have noticed Stone’s name there, or she didn’t know that the producers’ names should have been there instead.
mouse tolliver
Seriously though. This is good news for La La Land. There’s been increasing backlash pointing out some deal-breaking flaws. Right now it’s a profitable cult favorite. An actual win would’ve cemented its reputation as an overrated failure — ranking it alongside hated movies like Crash, Shakespeare In Love or The English Patient.
efgoldman
@mouse tolliver:
Who hated Shakespeare in Love? And why?
Darkrose
@Mnemosyne: I may have just hurt myself laughing.
mouse tolliver
@efgoldman: It beat Saving Private Ryan. That’s the main reason it’s hated.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@efgoldman:
I liked it a lot. I’m sure people have their reasons, but I suspect it also simply became hip to hate it, rather like hating Coldplay.