Open thread

Some catchy music to end the weekend.

Chat about whatever.

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    JPL says:

    Is this a follow-on to Adam’s post?

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    Doug R says:

    Rennet Lola!

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    Tim F. says:

    @JPL: Heh. Yeah, I guess. When he mentioned earlier he had a video to put in that post I just assumed it was luftballons.

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    Ridnik Chrome says:

    “99 Luftballons” always makes me sad. Yes, the music is catchy, but everyone dies at the end…

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    sunny raines says:

    Dear Media Employees, Why Did You Do It ?
    http://cadaqu.com/media-why-did-you-do-it

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    Mnemosyne says:

    Our usually timid middle cat, Annie, is feeling a little feisty tonight. She’s playing with All The Things and daring the other cats to stop her.

    I may have to play with my adult coloring books tonight after reading Adam’s post and all of the comments.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @JPL: Its in the documentary I posted!

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    I’m feeling super bummed out right now! Anybody got good TV Netflix recommendations? Looking for a replacement for House.

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    @Mnemosyne: Do you want to do more movie reviews? My motivation to blog has gone to zero after the elections.

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    @schrodinger’s cat: it’s on my to watch list! Kind of want a new procedural too.

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    @Major Major Major Major: Not exactly a procedural but a great show nevertheless, I think its on Amazon Prime, what about The Americans?

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    Botsplainer says:

    My nightstand has the following upon it, I just looked:

    -The War That Ended Peace – accounts for all the bad decision making among European leaders in the Rubio to the Great War, puts a great focus on the erratic, self-serving narcissism of Kaiser Wilhelm

    – Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

    – A Canticle for Leibowitz

    – Bridge of Spies

    – Bombs Away and Fallout – Harry Turtledove’s 2 volumes of alternate history of the global nuclear war that comes about after MacArthur convinces Truman to use atomic weapons to slow the Korean Communist supply chain during the Korean War

    See if you can gauge my mood by those titles.

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    So this is basically around 1912 or so, the way things are right now, yes? I think it’s a better parallel to draw with better lessons than WW2.

    @schrodinger’s cat: I’ve never seen it, but I imagine I’d like it. Adding it to the list?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Tim F.: It includes the song. You’ve continued the theme quite nicely. Carry on.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Major Major Major Major: If they have Rizzoli and Isles, I found that it hit a good note of fun and police procedural at the same time.

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    Tim F. says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I guess it had to be in there. I bookmarked the documentary to watch but have not gotten around yet.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: Because the fictional version of Russian not for cover ops in the US is really going to be helpful given we’re living through the real thing.

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    @Major Major Major Major: Yep, the voters of rust belt states have in their infinite wisdom voted in Czar Nicholas/ Kaiser Wilhelm like figure in office.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Botsplainer: I knew Marco Rubio was responsible for the Battle of Verdun!

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    @Adam L Silverman: Have you seen the show. FBI counter intelligence is very male and very white and not terribly competent.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Hinterlands. Set in Wales, moody detective series. Available on Netflix. There are a couple of seasons available.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Tim F.: I’m not going to post a quiz or anything! I think its excellent. Gets at the strategic miscommunication problem, as well as questions of strategic decision making.

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    JPL says:

    @Tim F.: That’s what I did also, because I already wake at 3 a.m. in a panic. I’ll watch it tomorrow.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    I wondered for a long while what this song by Air Traffic Controller reminded me of, finally realized it was “99 Luftballons” (though it’s not the same tune).

    (Air Traffic Controller is a good local band, I saw them in Newburyport a little while ago.)

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: I have not. Given that time period, it does not surprise me at all. The CI side of things has gotten more diverse, it had to, but overall the FBI is overwhelmingly white, male, and plurality Catholic.

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    JPL says:

    @Adam L Silverman: According to the Post article, the Taiwan call might not be miscommunication.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Sure, but I’ll have to think about what to do. I’m leaning towards something escapist, but not too escapist. Maybe animation? I am sadly deficient in my watching of Studio Ghibli films.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Major Major Major Major: I got to it in the final season, so have been playing catchup. If its not on Netflix, I think its on Amazon Prime.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @JPL: I’m aware.

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    @Adam L Silverman: The CI staff is incredibly insensitive to the sole woman(who is a secretary) in the department and the only person who seems half way competent is a black guy but also at the receiving end of clueless put downs. Thoughtless more than cruel but if you are at the receiving end, it makes little difference.

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    JPL says:

    Shortly before the song became popular here, my son who was working in Brussels at the time, met a friend in Germany who was buying a BMW to ship to the U.S. The song came on the radio and his friend translated it for him

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: I hear Disney has a new cartoon movie out.

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    @Adam L Silverman: The CI staff is incredibly insensitive to the sole woman(who is a secretary) in the department and the only person who seems half way competent is a black guy but also at the receiving end of clueless put downs. Thoughtless more than cruel but if you are at the receiving end, it makes little difference.

    ETA: Reposting because in Soviet Balloon Juice comment moderates you.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    This is one of those things that really is better in the original German.

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    JPL says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Do you think it’s Bolton, who has convinced him that this the correct strategy? Netanyahu is suppose to meet with him, because the Iran deal is so bad, in his opinion.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I hear that, too, but apparently Omnes doesn’t want to hear any more about it. ;-)

    I’ve never seen My Neighbor Totoro, believe it or not.

    In the puppet animation world, I loved Coraline, and Kubo and the Two Strings was amazing.

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    Luthe says:

    For those looking for TV recommendations: Madam Secretary. Just enough heft to be interesting while also mostly optimistic about the world. A lovely contrast to the actual world.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Mnemosyne: Hey!

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Luthe: A new The West Wing?

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    SgrAstar says:

    Netflix has the first three installments of Jussi Adler-Olsen’s Department Q series, beginning with the superbly sinister The Keeper of Lost Causes. For aficionados of Nordic Noir and handsome Danish detectives, a must!

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Mnemosyne: Totoro! Totoro!! TOTORO!! Must watch!!

    btw – completely off-topic (on an open thread?), and in reference to something you said on another posting – but you could have an aunt/confidante who is *also* a werewolf/ghost. You know, just to mix things up. Or am I saying this just because I just watched The She-Wolf of London?

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    PsiFighter37 says:

    Hell of a season finale to Westworld…kind of wonder what they can possibly do for the follow-up.

    I also did none of the work I had intended to do over the long weekend, but it’s so close to the end of the year that I’m kind of out of fucks to give. I really do need to re-dedicate myself a bit, though. It’s been a long year, and post-election has felt like an eternal nightmare running in the background.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    Maybe animation? I am sadly deficient in my watching of Studio Ghibli films.

    “Spirited Away.” I prefer it, by a narrow margin, over “Howl’s Moving Castle.”

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    If they have Rizzoli and Isles, I found that it hit a good note of fun and police procedural at the same time.

    Good Sweet Fucking Christ.

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    danielx says:

    Speaking of catchy music, was fortunate enough to catch Joe Bonamassa last night. He didn’t play Woke Up Dreaming (unfortunately), but if you ever have the chance to see him – go. His playing could raise blisters on a Georgia highway in July.

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    burnspbesq says:

    Reading the House Ways & Means Committe “Tax Blueprint” to prep for a presentation I have to give this week. When you strip away all the lies, all that’s left is a big, fat fucking nightmare.

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    Blue mouser says:

    @Mnemosyne: if you like shows that use puppetry have you seen Thunderbolt Fantasy? It feaures Taiwanese glove puppetry, gorgeous sets and the story was written by Gen Urobuchi. It’s like Michael Bay meets Thunderbirds meets Wuxia on crack. Some of the scenes are so lovely I just want to pause the show just to appreciate the artistry

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    opiejeanne says:

    I’ll say it again:
    “Hinterlands” (y Gwyll) police detective procedural set in Wales, in the area around Aberstywyth. There are two seasons available on Netflix. We watched the first two episodes yesterday, 90 minutes each. Originally shot in Welsh, then shot again in mostly English but with bits of Welsh now and then.
    We watch it with the subtitles on because of the accents, but the transcriber for the second episode had a terrible time figuring out the dialogue but gets most of it. One of the main characters is named Sian, pronounced “shawn”, and it’s spelled both ways in the subtitles.

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    mkro says:

    Fake news was obviously a big story in 2016. But I honestly didn’t give #pizzagate much thought. It just seemed so ridiculous that even the Natl Enquirer would have passed on it. There was no backing story, no evidence, no nothing.

    But apparently, lots & lots & lots of Trumpkins were dumb enough, lacking enough critical thinking, to believe it.

    A nutjob with a gun actually went into that DC pizza shop today to “self-investigate” the made-up child molestation charges.

    We are a really, really dumb country.

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    @Mnemosyne: Screwball comedies with Cary Grant and Katherine Hepburn. Or is that too cutesy?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @mkro: My mom, who was a dedicated teacher, has often noted that a lot of us don’t realize how dumb average is.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @burnspbesq: My daughter tried to have me watch Howl’s Moving Castle but it just did not appeal to me. Then I read the plot description of the original novel and the film was nothing like it, missed the entire point of the book, and just seemed to wander off in weird direction of its own.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    We were talking about Holiday the other day, which I haven’t seen in a while. I can’t stand Bringing Up Baby. Maybe put Holiday, His Girl Friday, and one other film up for a vote?

    And if anyone wants me to do a special holiday post about The Shop Around the Corner, just say so. We watch it every year on Christmas Eve.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: Actually that’s moderation comments on you.

    I freed it your comment by the way. And what you’re describing is not surprising and most likely an accurate representation from that time period.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Especially if we hang out with people of similar intelligence to ourselves and don’t run into the less intelligent on a regular basis. It’s kind of stunning when you do finally notice.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Miss Bianca:

    It’s funny — I love horror and supernatural movies, but I can’t write horror or supernatural. I really suck at it. But if you want to put a werewolf ghost aunt into your book, feel free to steal it!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @JPL: As I wrote in a comment in my earlier post, Trump has held these views since the 80s.

    I did a post on it back in the late Spring/early Summer, but during the Reagan Administration Trump took out a very expensive (about a $100K ad buy) full page ad in the NY Times criticizing President Reagan’s foreign policy and American involvement in NATO and other alliances.

    http://www.politico.com/magazi…..gan-213288

    The gadfly was Donald Trump, writing in his book The Art of the Deal. But it wasn’t just a glancing blow; to promote the book, Trump launched a political campaign that tore into Reagan’s record, including his willingness to stand up to the Soviet Union. Advised by the notorious Roger Stone, a Nixon-era GOP trickster, in 1987 Trump took out full-page ads in the New York Times, the Boston Globe and the Washington Post blasting Reagan and his team.

    In the text, which was addressed “To the American people,” Trump declared, “There’s nothing wrong with America’s Foreign Defense Policy that a little backbone can’t cure.” The problem was America’s leading role in defending democracy, which had been fulfilled by Republicans and Democrats all the way back to FDR. Foreshadowing his 2015 argument that would have Mexico pay for an American-built border wall, Trump then said that the United States should present its allies with a bill for defense services rendered.

    The ads, which cost more than $90,000, came after Trump had visited the Soviet Union and met with Mikhail Gorbachev. (A few years earlier, Trump had offered himself as a replacement for Reagan’s nuclear arms control negotiators, whom he considered too soft.) Trump followed his letter to America with a trip to Portsmouth, New Hampshire, where voters were eyeing the candidates in the 1988 primary. There he spoke to the Rotary Club, which met at Yoken’s restaurant, where the sign out front featured a spouting whale and the slogan, “Thar she blows!” In his talk, Trump sounded some of the same themes he offers today, except for the fact that the bad guys who were laughing at the United States were the Japanese and not the Mexicans or Chinese.

    Click across there’s much more at the link above.

    And you can see the ad here:
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/a…..first.html

    Donald Trump was up at a podium, saying that America had gone weak and was headed for disaster.
    “We don’t have tough people. We have nice people,” Trump said. “But I’m tired of nice people, already. I mean, too much.”
    But this was not 2016 and Trump was not talking about President Obama.
    This was 1987 and Trump was denouncing the course of the country as set by President Reagan, who was famously known for being the nicest of guys.
    “I’m tired of nice people already in Washington,” Trump told a Rotary Club gathering at Yoken’s restaurant in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. “Let somebody be in there who doesn’t just smile nicely, who’s not just shaking hands. I want someone in there who knows how to negotiate, because that’s what it’s all about now. And, if the right person isn’t in office, you’re going to see a catastrophe.”
    America, he said, was being pushed around and fleeced as it fell ever deeper into debt.
    “They’re ripping us off left and right,” he said. “They knock the hell out of the United States. Do they say, ‘Thank you?’ No. Do they like us? Not particularly…”
    He went on, “We are a country that is losing $200 billion a year. We are supporting, we are literally supporting Japan, which is the greatest money machine ever created, and we created it to a large extent. Let’s not kid ourselves.”
    He continued, “We’re supporting Saudi Arabia. We’re supporting Kuwait. We’re bringing in ships to Kuwait through the gulf. We’re losing our men. We’re spending billions of dollars. So what’s happening? They don’t contribute one penny of this defense.”
    He offered a solution for the deficit, which was tripling under Reagan.
    “Why can’t we have a share of their money?” he asked. “We should have Japan and we should have Saudi Arabia and we should have all of these countries who are literally ripping us off left and right… They should pay for our $200 billion deficit.”
    That raised the unspoken question of how this might be accomplished.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: I have to see the latter.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @burnspbesq:

    That’s the one Studio Ghibli movie I’ve seen. I’m not that interested in Howl’s Moving Castle, but I do still want to see Kiki’s Delivery Service.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Blue mouser:

    I have not. I have a weakness for puppet animation, so I’ll have to check it out — thanks!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Corner Stone: I can’t tell if your response is positive or negative.

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    @Mnemosyne: What about Philadelphia story. Agreed about bringing up baby.

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    @Adam L Silverman: I’m dreading the next several hundred days where I have to keep explaining to people that in many things Trump actually knows exactly what he’s doing. Oh well.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @opiejeanne: Yes, when I joined the army, I went to regular basic training on my way to OCS. I had lived in well-off suburbs and towns with good schools and I was always in the “smart” classes. I went to a selective LAC. I had to modify my vocabulary while I was in Basic. It was a real learning experience.

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    @opiejeanne: @Omnes Omnibus: Are you saying that Balloon Juice is a club of self defined smarty pants?

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    NotMax says:

    @Major Major Major Major

    Police detective stuff? If you don’t mind subtitles, Spiral. Fair warning: unabashedly graphic and gritty.

    Non-crime and more in a humorous vein? Club de Cuervos. Season 2 coming to Netflix later on this month.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The one thing I felt a little “meh” about was Matthew McConaghey’s voice performance. I felt like he got cast based on how much additional financing they could get, not on how good his performance was. Charlize Theron was great.

    Given the current philosophy of where I work, the lack of Asian-American voice talent in a movie filled with Japanese characters really stuck out like a sore thumb to me — I think there were only two, and they were in cameo roles. But, Laika doesn’t have the resources of the Giant Evil Corporation and needs to cast partly based on who financiers are willing to pay for. That’s just reality, unfortunately.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: How many degrees do you have?

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    @schrodinger’s cat: Aw, and here I am with two like a chump.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    I always feel a little “meh” about Philadelphia Story. There are some weird and creepy themes in there, like when Tracy’s father basically says he wouldn’t have cheated on her mother if Tracy had loved him more. WTF?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    I also only have two, but my master’s degree is a terminal degree since it’s an MFA.

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    @Mnemosyne: My master’s is too, but is that really an excuse?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: Okay then. Most people here have at least one degree and those who don’t seem to be people who became tool and dye makers and such – which requires a shitload of brains. We are not representative of the general population. We are a little elite and elitist island.

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    NotMax says:

    @Mnemosyne

    Escapist but not too escapist (not animated): Rita and its spin-off microseries, Hjørdis.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @efgoldman: That can also be the case. As you will see, my subsequent comments do not limit brains to degrees.

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    greennotGreen says:

    @SgrAstar: I second the recommendation for the Department Q movies – but don’t binge watch or you’ll end up with bad dreams like I did. It’s pretty dark stuff.

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    NotMax says:

    @Omnes Omnibus

    Tool and die.

    /pedant (in the spirit of the comments)

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    Kelly says:

    @Major Major Major Major: “River” a really different police procedural set in current day London. Also “Jonathan Strange and Mr. Worrel” where magic is rediscovered in Great Britain in the early 1800’s

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @NotMax: Turns out that you are right. I never saw it written, only said.

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    RaflW says:

    Joe Manchin as a name now being tossed around as Energy Secretary. Good times, eh J.C.?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @NotMax:

    I think we’ve moved on to a screwball comedies consensus. We just need one more to add to Holiday and His Girl Friday.

    Since we already have two Cary Grant movies, maybe The Awful Truth?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Its sort of a combo. He knows and doesn’t know. He’s held these views for a long time. On foreign and defense policy on criminal justice/law and order on racial interaction and eugenics. He’s had longstanding positions being pro-choice and being socially liberal to libertine and being in favor of government funded healthcare. These last three he seems to have flipped on to get the nomination. But even the first couple that he’s held for a long time, its not clear how he came to them and/or why he holds them.

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    West of the Rockies (been a while) says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    Totoro is wonderful! Miyazaki is fabulous.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @efgoldman: I don’t work in the NY Time’s billing department, so I can’t say.

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    West of the Rockies (been a while) says:

    @danielx:

    Catchy music? I urge you all to check out the Apple Pen song… it’s, uh… compelling.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: We’ll keep good thoughts for an easy and peaceful passing for it.

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    SFAW says:

    @burnspbesq:

    “Spirited Away.” I prefer it, by a narrow margin, over “Howl’s Moving Castle.”

    Anything but “Ponyo.”

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    NotMax says:

    @Mnemosyne

    Does it have to be Grant? If not, Murder He Says.

    If Grant is a must, might suggest Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House.

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    Peale says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I guess it’s safe to assume that in any given situation or crises, we will just imagine what the most belligerent outcome would be, and that’s what will happen. I do think we’ll be occupying Mexico as far as Durango, withdrawing when Mexico concedes beachfront real estate to the kids. We are looking at some kind of medieval real estate vassalage system where world stability will involve whether or not a country has personal business ties to our new monarch that will all fall apart when someone dies without an heir.

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    @Kelly: Ooh, magic!

    ETA: @Adam L Silverman: Yes, that’s closer to what I meant. There’s a lot of people who want to believe he’s an easily-swayed figurehead who’s new to, for instance, trashing NATO or hating black people.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @NotMax: For all you know they were tie dying their mechanical presses. Don’t judge.

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    NotMax says:

    @Mnemosyne

    Interpreted your comment as looking for something escapist on Netflix.

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    SFAW says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    For all you know they were tie dying their mechanical presses. Don’t judge.

    Although that’s a new and interesting take on the idea, I think it’s especially difficult to tie hardened steel sufficiently to achieve the desired effect.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @efgoldman: I don’t know, this was back when he was flush, before he lost bigly at the end of the 80s, and I reckon the NY Times doesn’t take free rounds of golf in lieu of cash.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @NotMax:

    I think Major^4 is the one looking for escapist Netflix suggestions.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Tracking.

    Also, for a good procedural, Robeson Green in Wire in the Blood.

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    @Mnemosyne: But aren’t we all, a little?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @NotMax:

    I like I Was A Male War Bride, myself. But I think Awful Truth will round the list out nicely. I know there are a lot of Cary Grant fans around here.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Adam L Silverman: @Adam L Silverman: I am by nature a liberal interventionist, but my mentor was a Czech Realist out of Chicago. Trump scares me. If he wants to reconfigure NATO as a protection racket? I can’t even…

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Why do you think we’re deciding which Cary Grant movie to watch?

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    Feathers says:

    A show worth tracking down is Jonathan Creek. It’s a British mystery show from the late 90s. Sort of an anti-X-Files. Where on the X-Files, everything turns out to be aliens, monsters, or a conspiracy, on Jonathan Creek, all the inexplicable doings turn out to be human in the end. It’s a male-female pairing, the woman is a reporter who investigates miscarriages of justice who pulls in an eccentric man who designs and builds the illusions for a famous stage magician (played by a pre-Buffy Anthony Head in the first season). It’s all about how the details of how the crime was committed – locked room mysteries.

    I first heard about it on a screenwriting board board back in the day – all the TV writers were raving about it, and Monk apparently was created in attempt to create the same flavor on American TV. I admit I prefer Creek to Monk, Creek’s oddity is less DSMified, as it were. Interestingly, Hugh Laurie was at one point attached to star, but dropped out because he couldn’t find his way into the character. House can be seen as his “getting the character” he missed the first time around.

    It showed on one of the minor cable channels where I watched it. It is one of those shows that started swapping out female leads and none of them worked as well as Caroline Quentin, who is in the first three seasons. It is on DVD. Apparently there is a Christmas special this year, so maybe it will pop up streaming some where. Worth keeping an eye out.

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    SFAW says:

    @sunny raines:

    Dear Media Employees, Why Did You Do It ?

    Well, it ain’t Vogon-like, but it ain’t exactly Keats or Ginsberg.

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    Mike E says:

    @SFAW: Ponyo was fun in the theater where Miss E and I made up half the audience…we chased Spirited Away all over town and saw it 3 times in 3 different theaters, something we haven’t duplicated since

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    Mnemosyne says:

    Random etiquette question for the gay men: my brother-in-law has been all over Facebook having breakfast, lunch, and dinner with the same guy since at least a couple of weeks before Thanksgiving, though I first started seeing this new fella being mentioned around August. At what point can I ask, Is this your new boyfriend and when do we get to meet him?

    I’m leaning towards waiting to see if they make it past New Year’s, which is always a trouble zone for any new couple, but if I should ask earlier, let me know.

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    I do find procedurals to be relaxing though. They’re rigidly structured, so you always know what you’re getting into (I watch one before bed), and network/basic cable gore has never bothered me.

    I’m sad that I ran out of House episodes. I’d been watching every day, all year. Just a winning take on the genre.

    ETA: @Mnemosyne: What’s got you thinking it would be any different than asking a woman?

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    Feathers says:

    @Mnemosyne: Have you read Stanley Cavell’s “Pursuits of Happiness”? It’s a Harvard philosopher writing about Hollywood’s comedy of remarriage – noting the debt the screwball comedy pays to Shakespeare; that they are about remarriage – thus the hero and heroine are both sexually experienced; and that the problem to be solved isn’t sex but – conversation. He sees them as being about can two minds really meet through conversation. It’s one of my all time favorite film books.

    Anyway, the movies with chapters in the book are The Lady Eve, It Happened One Night, Bringing Up Baby, His Girl Friday, The Philadelphia Story, Adam’s Rib, and The Awful Truth, if those appeal. I know we’ve already done Sturges.

    Oh, and my every Christmas movie is Bell, Book and Candle.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: I’m not particularly thrilled myself. Apparently the Taiwan call was month’s in the planning by a group of advisors that want to radically change the US’s position vis a vis Taiwan.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-taiwan-phone-call-was-weeks-in-the-planning-say-people-who-were-involved/2016/12/04/f8be4b0c-ba4e-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.b5a32ec993be
    (h/t; Commenter Shalimar in my earlier post)

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    Mike J says:

    Yow. I learned a ton yesterday. Normally in sport, this means very bad things happened. Had the other boats in race not returned to the dock before the start it would have been a disaster. It was my first time crewing on a big boat. Forecast was 10 gusting 12, at the start there were solid whitecaps, which means base wind of 15+.

    I always told my students that a big boat, like our 24 and 27 footers, were just like a dinghy, just a bit more work, I was on a 44’er yesterday. Furling the jib took a 42×1 advantage winch, and took forever with that. Thousands of pounds of resistance instead of the hundreds I’m used to. Yes, everything was the same in that there were sheets and halyards and vangs, but everything had a couple of tons of stress on it. I can’t wait to do it again The boats I’m used to, you can manhandle and yank ’em around the course. Everything on a really big boat has to be thought about in advance, Which actually works better for a sailor who isn’t 18 any more.

    Normally post race we have a beer or two and tell lies for 15 minutes. Big boats mean twelve year old scotch and popcorn popped in the boat’s microwave and three hours worth of lies. Really, really hoping I get ride for Swiftsure.

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    Blue mouser says:

    After retiring 3 years ago Hayao Miyazaki is thinking of returning and making an animated film again!!. Kiki’s and Spirited Away are favorites.
    I think his successor in spirit will be Makoto Shinkai. His She and her Cat and 5 cm per second are becoming classics. His new film Your Name did pretty well in Thailand Hong Kong and even China. I want to see it but with a very limited release will need to wait until hopefully Netflix or Amazon licenses it.

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    SFAW says:

    @Mike E:

    I saw “Ponyo” in the theater. Once was more than enough, and it’s one of very few Miyazaki films I would not consider getting the DVD.

    “Spirited Away,” on the other hand .. I won’t say I could watch it endlessly, but multiple viewings are something I could do. That’s also true (for me) for plenty of other Miyazakis.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Mostly that he only really started publicly dating since he began therapy about 3 years ago, so I don’t want to put too much pressure on him. (He was not closeted, but if he was dating, he wasn’t telling the family about it.) So this may be more something that’s personal to him than a specifically gay thing.

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    James E Powell says:

    When I’m in the mood for them, nothing beats Preston Sturges films.

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    Feathers says:

    @Major Major Major Major: I have season 1 on DVD. Let me know if you can’t track it down. It really is wonderful.

    ETA – the only show I’m currently watching in real time is a great procedural “Elementary” It doesn’t get the love it deserves.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @James E Powell:

    At some point, I will probably do just Sturges and just Lubitsch, and have people vote for one out of three. But right now, I think I’m feeling Cary Grant.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Looking for a replacement for House.

    I’d suggest New Tricks, but it looks to be available disc-only. Tech-savvy guy like you can probably access it elsewhere, though…

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    @Mnemosyne: Personally I’d just wait for him to say anything.

    ETA: Speaking of off-beat procedurals, anybody else watch Psych?

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    jacy says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    I watched The Fall on Netflix compulsively. Irish police procedural with Gillian Anderson and Jamie Dornan. Also watched Black Mirror, which is a UK science fiction/fantasy anthology.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Yes, but you’re not a noodge.

    I’ll probably wait for either post-New Year’s or for whenever G plans his winter trip to visit the family. Holidays can be rough on a new couple, and I don’t want either of them to feel pressured.

    But, seriously, they each tag one or the other of themselves on Facebook at least every other day, so am I not supposed to draw conclusions?

    ETA: I have been waiting for over 10 years to have a fellow in-law that I can gossip about the family with, so I am excited at the prospect. G’s gotten to have them this whole time with my family and it’s NOT FAIR.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    All right, I’m going to wander off to prepare my poll on Cary Grant movies. Night, all!

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    eemom says:

    Sorry to interrupt late night politics-free zone, but this is good news. Hearing was held this afternoon and decision just issued.

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    jacy says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I love Robson Green. In anything. But Wire in the Blood is quite excellent.

    Love Ben Miller too. Death in Paradise is good — and much more escapist because it’s a comedy, and it’s on Netflix now. (I watch a lot UK TV)

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    @jacy: I think I tried The Fall a few years ago. Maybe that was my husband.

    I watched the first two seasons of Black Mirror, but the first one of this season was so dreadful I haven’t continued.

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    Felixmoronia says:

    Check out MHz.org’s MHzchoice, all kinds of European procedurals/mysteries. Five seasons of “Spiral” with a 6th season early in ’17. Enough to keep one occupied for weeks/months.

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    burnspbesq says:

    Hoo-boy.

    I can’t vouch for this source, with which I am unfamiliar, but if this is accurate, there is serious fuckery afoot in the Wisconsin recount–and in exactly the place you would expect.

    Waukesha, of course

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The CI side of things has gotten more diverse, it had to, but overall the FBI is overwhelmingly white, male, and plurality Catholic.

    Growing up Catholic is a great training ground for arranging one’s entire life around the fiats (whims) of a strict hierarchy of (still, in America) mostly white men. Men of this mindset are less & less capable of coping with our corrupt modern world, which makes them deeply sympathetic to the ‘whitelash’ Angry Old Men of the GOP, with or without Trump as its figurehead.

    (I hear the FBI heads had great hope for the Mormons, now that so many ‘cradle Catholics’ are being raised by ‘cafeteria Catholics’, but the LDS foreign-mission training means the CIA steals the best of the returnees.)

    Comey’s thumb-fist-and-forearm-on-the-scales bullshit was alarming, but not IMO surprising. He may be the FBI’s version of Pope Benedict, but I doubt there’s a Francis waiting to replace him…

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    SFAW says:

    @burnspbesq:

    Jesus H. Christ. Time for the UN to send monitors to a certain banana republic which is home to a certain green-and-gold football team?

    “Party Before Country,” the not-so-new slogan of the Partei of Treasonous Motherfuckers, a/k/a the Rethuglicans.

    ETA: Would the bruited-about and hoped-for audit do anything to remedy that situation? My perception — which may be wrong, of course — is that an unaudited recount would be vulnerable to all sorts of fuckery by the GOP.

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    SFAW says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    Comey’s thumb-fist-and-forearm-on-the-scales bullshit was alarming, but not IMO surprising. He may be the FBI’s version of Pope Benedict, but I doubt there’s a Francis waiting to replace him…

    Is that bastard EVER going to get fired?

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    Tenar Arha (same Tenar, more Nameless Ones) says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: It sucked when people treated me like I was stuck up or simply swallowed a dictionary when I were brought up to lovingly use ALL the words because it’s fun! Serious family point of pride was using words correctly, & then playing with& off of them. Was a shock to find how truly different that was.

    True story: Thanksgiving all us kids were sent to find all the dictionaries in our house (at least 2-3 college & 1 unabridged) because the adults were arguing over a word at dinner. (Really wish I remembered the word).

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    Tenar Arha (same Tenar, more Nameless Ones) says:

    @Mnemosyne: Not really a romance but Arsenic & Old Lace is a favorite Cary Grant film of mine, partly because the whole ensemble is so good.

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    Tenar Arha (same Tenar, more Nameless Ones) says:

    @Tenar Arha (same Tenar, more Nameless Ones): Frak! grammar nerd “…I was brought up…” /grammar nerd

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Feathers:

    the only show I’m currently watching in real time is a great procedural “Elementary” It doesn’t get the love it deserves.

    It is very good, isn’t it? Spousal Unit & I just finished watching the first season — we cherish shows where our tastes overlap enough for that, so we’re carefully not-binging.

    We like that it’s not as consciously INTENSE! as the BBC Sherlock, wonderful as that show is. Sometimes you want a procedural where every episode wraps up its own story, apart from any overriding arcs. I think people forget that the original Sherlock Holmes tales were short stories or novellas — the ‘series tv episodes’ of their media day. Sir Arthur wasn’t writing three-volume novels, he meant his tales to be tidy little packets (with a few loose threads to encourage readers to look for the next one).

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    SFAW says:

    @Tenar Arha (same Tenar, more Nameless Ones):

    Frak! grammar nerd “…I was brought up…” /grammar nerd

    Beat me to it.
    I believe the proper phrase is either “I was brung up” or “I was brang up.” Or maybe even “I was bringed up.”

    And I should know, because I have my advanced degree from the Dunning-Kruger Graduate School of Pseudo-Pedantry.

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    Dog Dawg Damn says:

    Meanwhile the future NSA director’s son is in a Twitter war with Jake Tapper promoting a disgusting conspiracy theory about child sex trafficking.

    And Donald Trump is subtweeting China, very aggressively.

    This is spiraling out of control fast.

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    This Trump Goes to Mega-donor Mercers’ ‘Heroes and Villains’ Costume Party as Self thing (one of y’all linked it this afternoon) is some Batman villain-level shit, by the way.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Major Major Major Major:
    Did you watch The Crown?
    Luke Cage?
    The Get Down?
    They also have Supergirl. The Flash. Arrow. Legends of Tomorrow.
    The Fall.

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    rikyrah says:

    @PsiFighter37:
    What was Westworld about?
    I am curious.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Mnemosyne:
    The Philadelphia Story. Still wonderful after all these years.😄😄😄

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    otmar says:

    Yesterday, Austria managed to re-affirm the election of the left-wing presidential candidate.

    We had a re-do of the election because absentee ballots weren’t handled consistently according to the law at the run-off election in May.

    This time it was not close. *phew*

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    R-Jud says:

    @Kelly: Seconding Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell here. A great big amazing doorstop of a book. Takes a couple of chapters to get going; persevere until a character called Childermass shows up.

    The BBC did an excellent seven-episode adaptation of it in 2015. You should be able to buy it on YouTube to watch immediately. Again, it seems a little overly whimsical at first, but then settles down into something dark and wild and wryly funny. Go go go!

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    opiejeanne says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: I’d say we’re at least a little above average, but most of you are way ahead of me.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @NotMax: Murder, He Says! Fred MacMurray! I remember that one from tv in the 50s/60s, when they showed old movies on the local channels.

    Honors flysis/Income beezis/Onches nobis/Inob keesis

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    sunny raines says:

    Evil’s now through the door
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XhK_8eRrcM

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    J R in WV says:

    Since folks are talking about old films, I’ll re-post about a new film, Doctor Strange, which we saw recently in a theater. It was very good, cast OK, effects amazing.

    I would recommend seeing the 3-D version, actually although that wasn’t available at the cineplex we visited. Friend went a second time to see it in 3-D, I would if I can make time for it.

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    SFAW says:

    @sunny raines:

    He sings as well as he writes

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    ET says:

    So this happened. During the election, a fake news story was circulated likely by guys similar to those profiled in the Washington Post, about a supposed pedophilia ring operating out of a local pizza joint in DC. They and some others associated with them have been getting threats for awhile and even one person went to the place to see for themselves. Well. It seems that some looser from red state America came to DC – with a shotgun – to see for himself. He even fired at least one shot.

    Trump voters – and I am going to assume he is one – and many conservatives, are just stupid, gullible, and/or insane.

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    MoxieM says:

    Fame-whoring: Nena’s daughter went to school with my daughter’s boyfriend (as children). That is all.

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