“Ambulatory cream cheese sculpture” Hewitt, not seeing a downside!
Lots of "Do you see HRC popular vote margin." #TildenTweets. Samuel Tilden won popular vote by 3%! It was still President Hayes.
— Hugh Hewitt (@hughhewitt) November 25, 2016
Not really comforting, when you consider Hayes only won because of a corrupt deal that ended Reconstruction and brought us Jim Crow. https://t.co/pSW6lhQq9V
— James Surowiecki (@JamesSurowiecki) November 25, 2016
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Apart from meditating on the never-ending revanchist urges of our GOP compatriots, what’s on the agenda for the evening?
Major Major Major Major
#TildenTweets? What a dumb hashtag.
I took some more pictures from a drive along the central coast between Monterey and Carmel.
I’m also going to write a browser plugin that tells you when you’re reading Russian propaganda (and when you see links to it) based on PropOrNot’s list.
Baud
I’m comforted by the popular vote. Obviously, I would prefer the reverse situation.
Major Major Major Major
@efgoldman: would you rather live in a world where nobody’s written such a thing?
Jeffro
@Major Major Major Major:
Agreed, but it helps them feel better about themselves. I’m sure they’d be okay if HRC had won the EC but lost the popular vote by 2M, right? Trump certainly would take it all graciously in stride and talk about “all of us being on the same team”, etc etc.
Taking one more day to decompress tomorrow, then getting back into the fight here. We have just a couple of weeks until the EC votes – no reason to turn down a free shot at stopping this train wreck – and then committing to taking action every day. This Louisiana Senate race could use our help, plus our Senators and Reps need to hear from us a few times a week: NO LIES, NO CHANGES to Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare.
Other than that, op-eds, letters to the editor, ACLU/PP/SPLC memberships & campaigns, and other donations (including, if you’re in VA, donating to Ralph Northam’s campaign for governor 2017)
Steeplejack (tablet)
@Major Major Major Major:
Nice pictures. The graphic on that sign looks like “Don’t yell at the seals!” Would have thought that would be obvious, but standards of etiquette have fallen so far these days.
raven
@Major Major Major Major: Camera Fans!
Major Major Major Major
@Jeffro: Why would we want them to feel better about themselves?
ETA: @raven: right?
quakerinabasement
Tilden was a Democrat. Sayin’.
raven
@Major Major Major Major: I love it! Dig you go by Nepenthe?
NotMax
First off, in the case of Hayes/Tilden, three states had disputed slates of electors, with each party in those states declaring its candidate the winner. So the comparison breaks down from the get-go.
Switching gears, some ideas about what to make with Turkey Day leftovers.
debbie
Hey, Hugh, how many people did that 3% represent back then?
Iowa Old Lady
We’re home from our son and DIL’s house with lots of leftovers. Good times. I love seeing them together. They’re kind to one another.
Major Major Major Major
@raven: Didn’t go that far South–we did the Pebble Beach 17-mile drive.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
This new administration is revanchist and revisionist. I’m sure we’ll hear more about how Bush won the war and all was sunshine and bunnies until BHO mucked it up… The economy was glowing until the O in the Wall Gang screwed things up.
They are loathsome toads, the lot of them.
NotMax
Anyone yet taken a look at 3% on Netflix? From the trailer looks more promising than the premise does on its face.
Woodrowfan
I’d take Hayes or Tilden over der Trumperfuhrer any time..
NotMax
@debbie
Any number includes zero per cent of women, making comparisons even more sketchy.
scuffletuffle
@Major Major Major Major: Such beautiful photos…I hope to see the Pacific in person someday.
Baud
@Iowa Old Lady: Sounds lovely.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major: Very nice photos.
Adam L Silverman
@Jeffro: If you’re wondering what would have happened had Trump won the popular and lost the EC or lost both, just look at what McCrory is doing in NC. That’s pretty much what it would look like. Also, actual, coordinated riots. Not a bunch of peaceful demonstrations and then 1/2 a dozen black block idiots show up.
Baud
@quakerinabasement: Dems and Republicans were kind of in opposite positions then.
divF
@Major Major Major Major: Asilomar State Beach ?
Adam L Silverman
@NotMax: I thought you made Beef Wellington?
divF
@Adam L Silverman: Lamb Wellington, IIRC.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Major Major Major Major:
What! Pictures of Carmel, and none of an old man yelling at a empty chair. You’ll have to do better next time Major^4.
Nice pics.
BillinGlendaleCA
I have leftover Korean BBQ.
Adam L Silverman
@divF: As long as it survived first contact with Napolean’s army, it really doesn’t matter.
Michael Bersin
One of my blog colleagues wrote a letter to the editor to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch criticizing Trumpworld. The paper published it. Later the paper initiated contact to ask if my colleague had been harassed about the letter. It appears that a right wingnut took offense on the content of the letter and started harassing a resident of the same suburb with a similar name.
Welcome to Donald Trump’s America.
Civility starts at home, Trumpies
divF
I’m sitting in my hotel room in Arlington VA, having missed another day of vacation activities, but I managed to get my doctor in NorCal to phone in a prescription for prednisone at a local pharmacy. So I’m breathing better and coughing *a lot* less. I’m cautiously optimistic that I will be able to go to the Udvar-Hazy Air and Space museum out by Dulles tomorrow with Madame and nephew.
Adam L Silverman
Fuck me! She actually filed a recount/audit request:
https://twitter.com/WI_Elections/status/802264791737716736
Lets see if she does MI and PA too…
Steeplejack (tablet)
@Iowa Old Lady:
This is important—critically important. I’m always a little surprised and disappointed when I hear couples say things to each other that they would never dream of saying to a friend, an acquaintance or a coworker.
Major Major Major Major
@divF: One of them’s from there, yeah.
@BillinGlendaleCA:
I’m sorry you weren’t there too.
divF
@Adam L Silverman: I can’t help thinking of this scene in Love and Death .
Adam L Silverman
@divF: Those strategic culinary gaps can sneak up and bite you on the tuchas!
debbie
@NotMax:
There’s that. Wikipedia says a little under 8,400,000 voted in the 1876 election. 3% of that is 252,000 â or 12% of 2,000,000.
Steeplejack (tablet)
@NotMax:
Could go either way. I was ambivalent about the trailer. Lot of familiar tropes getting a workout. But it’s worth a look.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Major Major Major Major: You must have me confused with another old man, I just yell: “Shut up Nikki” at the cocker.
eemom
@Adam L Silverman:
uh, this surprises you WHY exactly?
This question presupposes that you’re not one of the many idiots on this blog who dismissed the Stein recount because they hate Stein. (Full disclosure: I hate Stein too.) Apologies if that assumption is incorrect.
Ian
@efgoldman:
Well Tilden was also a full bore southern Democratic revanchist. The GOP of the time figured they could extend an olive branch by co-opting the dems and finding bipartisan middle ground. It did not work, and the legacy ensued. The historical patern is too similar to today(with the parties switched). There was even an impeachment that floundered in the senate a decade before! The only hope I have is it be the republicans who spend 70 years in the wilderness unelectable outside of a few select states.
Adam L Silverman
@eemom: As the request for dollars kept increasing, I was more inclined to think of this as a combination publicity stunt, attempt to create a far, far larger donor/contact list than she currently has, and a grift. This was based on watching her past political activities. So I’m pleasantly surprised she filed the recount/audit request.
I’m still trying to figure out how she got to that RT banquet and got seated next to Putin. If, as I suspect, that she’s one of his useful idiots, this may be more of the maskirovka. Filing the audit/recount requests will slow things down, will cause Trump supporters to act out, and make America’s political system, civil society, and liberal democracy look even more ridiculous, which are all part of Putin’s goal.
Baud
@Adam L Silverman: But what’s De La Fuenta’s game?
Iowa Old Lady
@Adam L Silverman: I wondered if the Clinton campaign encouraged Stein to do it.
Ian
@NotMax:
Actually Wyoming granted the right to vote to women in 1869! So it would be .05% of women who voted.
Adam L Silverman
@Baud: I have no idea. He was a Democrat until he decided to run on the Reform Party ticket.
Adam L Silverman
@Iowa Old Lady: I would think that would be highly unlikely.
Baud
@Adam L Silverman: Everyone is crazy.
Alain the site fixer
@divF: it’s so worth it! Hoping to see the new Star Wars movie there on their IMAX screen. Great joy will be had!
ETA feel better!
Mnemosyne
@efgoldman:
I’ve heard that by far the best place to eat near the Smithsonian complex is the National Museum of the American Indian, though it was a former museum employee who told me that.
SiubhanDuinne
@efgoldman:
Or a server!! In the basement!!
That just sounds dirty.
divF
@efgoldman:
@Alain the site fixer:
We’re staying in Ballston. I’ve been there before, but the nephew (who is 23 and an aircraft enthusiast) has not, and is *real* excited. MacDonald’s works for him, though.
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne:
Only if you’re doing it right.
SiubhanDuinne
@Mnemosyne:
That is possibly my favorite Smithsonian museum of the ones I’ve seen (haven’t visited them all) and the food there is wonderful.
Edit: And no, I do not now, nor have I ever, worked for the Museum of the American Indian.
eemom
@Adam L Silverman:
Can I have some more info about the Stein-Putin connection, please? I’m not familiar with the banquet you’re talking about.
Perhaps you’ll pardon me if I’m a bit skeptical of the theory that Putin, having successfully installed his puppet in the Oval Office, has anything to gain by rocking that boat.
Mnemosyne
I’m just killing time until I need to drive out to the San Gabriel Valley to learn English country dancing. I’m a terrible dancer, but it will be good research for my book.
frosty
@Adam L Silverman:
I don’t see a downside on the first two and the third was toast after 2000. I’m thinking of contributing to the cause, although I don’t want to get on the mailing list and I’m a bit conflicted otherwise. Good idea or not?
Major Major Major Major
@eemom: Well, here’s one of several pictures. https://mobile.twitter.com/zatchry/status/762055852991713280
It’s a little annoying to look up the Stein/Flynn/RT stuff online because (duh) there’s a bunch of Russian propaganda about how Stein is totally not a useful idiot!!1
ETA: Personally, I think Jill Stein is just seizing the moment to talk about Jill Stein some more. Did a Bad Guy put the idea in her head? I don’t know, maybe? I don’t really care. The recount is IMO dumb, but go ahead.
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
Hey, Adam, I don’t know whether you saw the thread downstairs, but if you have a chance, or any insights, I’d love to see your take on the new member of Trump’s National Security team.
(Reposted from below, where it was O/T):
I’ve learned a little bit more about her since I put up that comment, but it’s mostly boilerplate bio stuff. Assume you know her name, if not her personally, and possibly have some thoughts you can share. Thanks.
divF
@efgoldman: When I’m here on business, I probably follow a similar commute trail as your daughter (Metro from Arlington to Farragut West).
Gelfling 545
@Baud: It is a comfort to know that the majority did not opt for insanity.
Pogonip
@Adam L Silverman: OK, but I still have to get to bed–alone–by ten.
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: I ate at the NAMI cafeteria last time I was there. Pretty good! Interesting selection. (That being the point.)
Jeffro
@Adam L Silverman:
Great minds and all that…it makes it look like something’s happening, when in fact almost nothing can or will come of a recount. Now, pressuring the EC voters good and hard in each state, beating on the media to point out a 2M vote margin of victory, on Trump’s actions just since Nov 8th…that could make a difference. A Stein recount effort? A huge march the day after the inauguration? Not so much.
divF
@Mnemosyne: We probably won’t get there this trip, but I am intrigued about the food. I once went to a Native American restaurant in Vancouver a number of years ago, and it was pretty interesting and quite good.
divF
@efgoldman: Hmm. There is a direct bus from the Ballston Metro to Farragut Square, as well – I should give it a try. What with the work on Metro, service has been less reliable lately, and is likely to stay that way for a while.
Adam L Silverman
@eemom: She’s been a paid contributor to RT, which is a Russian government funded and backed propaganda outlet. She was an invited guest at the RT 10th Anniversary/Birthday gala in Moscow and seated at the head table with Vladimir Putin and LTG (ret) Michael Flynn – another RT paid contributor. She was sitting three seats away from Putin on his left (two people were in between them) and four seats away from Flynn who was sitting immediately to Putin’s right.
http://www.tabletmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/jillsteinputin1.jpg
The Russian Green Party, which is opposed to Putin, blasted her participation with RT and her attendance at the gala.
http://www.rferl.org/a/russian-environmentalists-criticize-us-green-party-stein-putin-support/27970782.html
http://www.newsweek.com/russian-green-activists-brand-us-green-party-accomplice-putin-496359
Adam L Silverman
@frosty: I think it is, ultimately, a grift.
Pogonip
@SiubhanDuinne: I looked her up on Wikipedia. Her big claim to fame is writing portions of, but not THE portion, of Reagan’s Star Wars speech. Whoopee.
rikyrah
East Bay hate-crime slaying has musicianâs kin seeking justice
By Sarah Ravani, Evan Sernoffsky, Jenna Lyons and Peter Fimrite
Updated 8:19 am, Thursday, November 24, 2016
One suspected killer was in custody and detectives were scouring the Bay Area on Wednesday for two alleged accomplices in the slaying of an African American musician who investigators said was targeted because of his race.
Daniel Porter-Kelly, 31, of Richmond, was arrested Nov. 16 and charged with murder, robbery and the special circumstance of committing a racially motivated crime, which could bring the death penalty if he is convicted.
He is being held without bail at the Martinez Detention Facility in the death of 28-year-old William Sims of Richmond, who was found beaten and shot on an El Sobrante roadway Nov. 12.
Contra Costa County sheriffâs investigators believe Porter-Kelly and two other men â Ray Simons, 32, of Hercules, and Daniel Ortega, 31, of Novato â attacked and killed Sims outside a nearby pool hall.
Simons and Ortega remained at large Wednesday. Porter-Kellyâs Berkeley-based defense attorney, Seth Morris, declined to talk about the case. All three men are white.
divF
@efgoldman: I have BART at home, so Metro looks like a real improvement in terms of reliability and coverage.
Major Major Major Major
@divF: Ah yes, the Bay Area Rapid Transit, which doesn’t serve a big chunk of the Bay Area and is not Rapid.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: Well I’m very curious exactly what she was doing, let alone how she got the job, of working for then Secretary of State and National Security Advisor Kissinger when she was 19! She was born in late 1950. She claims she started working for Kissinger on the White House side, so that’s the National Security Advisor’s office, in 1970 and worked there through 1976. So she started just shy of her 19th birthday. I find this highly dubious.
She’s a conspiracist – believed then Senator Clinton had sicced the black helicopters on her. And she’s worked for Frank Gaffney, who is also a conspiracist. I fully expect she’ll 1) be Gaffney’s line into the White House via Flynn and 2) she’ll simply empower Flynn’s conspiracism by adding her own, and Gaffney’s, to it.
rikyrah
Walking While Black….
Officer, pedestrian bump shoulders. Now the pedestrian may face charges
By Nestor Ramos GLOBE STAFF
NOVEMBER 22, 2016
Cleon Hodge was walking toward the Porter Square T station on his way home from work last month, glancing down at a text message conversation a few minutes after 6 p.m., when he banged shoulders with another pedestrian.
âYou gotta say âExcuse meâ if youâre going to try some cute [stuff] like that,â Hodge, 21, recalled telling the middle-aged man heâd collided with.
But the man was an on-duty plain-clothed police officer, Cambridge Detective Sergeant Thomas Ahern, and soon he was clutching Hodge by the sweatshirt while a small crowd gathered and a woman recorded the encounter.
Each man believed the other had initiated the contact â a fact of life in a crowded city, the type of encounter that typically ends in little more than mutual annoyance. But now Cambridge police are seeking assault and other charges against Hodge and a woman who tried to intervene, and pursuing a lesser charge against a second woman who recorded the incident with her cellphone.
The Oct. 13 incident and its aftermath, captured in four video clips by two bystanders, should raise serious questions about both Ahernâs handling of the situation and the resulting possibility of criminal charges, according to two civil right lawyers familiar with police abuse cases who reviewed the footage. Both were incredulous: How, they wondered, could what both men described as a minor collision between pedestrians on a crowded city street possibly be construed as assault and battery?
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman:
Oh, lord.
Shalimar
@Adam L Silverman: I still think it was a publicity stunt/grift/donor-list building exercise. But why shouldn’t Stein actually file the recount requests? She raised far more than they needed and expected to raise, she can afford to use some of it fulfilling what she said she would do.
Poopyman
I don’t want a recount, I want a forensic investigation of the state- and possibly county-level vote aggregation machines in WI, MI, PA, and possibly other swing states. Odds of finding smoking guns at this point are nil, but I want state and non-state actors to think twice before 2018 and 2020.
Steeplejack (tablet)
@divF:
In my experience, the Metro buses are really good. Downtown D.C. gets a little dicey, because tourist traffic can clog the main streets. But if you’re on a “soft” schedule, e.g., not racing the clock to get to a job, it’s not a big deal.
Metro’s excellent trip-planning apps are at the top of this page.
divF
@Major Major Major Major: C’mon, you can’t blame Marin, San Mateo and Santa Clara counties for not wanting to pay taxes for something that in 1957 was so obviously unnecessary. (/snark)
Another comparison which does not favor us in the Bay Area, is that I see around DC a construction boom in high-density housing and office space concentrated near Metro Stations throughout the VA and MD suburbs. Good luck with that kind of development in Orinda and Lafayette, or for that matter (for different reasons) San Leandro or Hayward.
Jeffro
@Poopyman:
State actors…you mean like the NC GOP, which is currently trying to rewrite election law post-election, so that their guy stays in office despite a. loss.?
Non-state actors…oh yes, they’ll think twice…they definitely give a shit what we think, much less the letter of the law.
This is about power and the only power we have right now is in doing something before the electors vote. After that, the best we’ll be able to do is to try and make the GOP own it (most specifically, to make the GOP Senate ‘own’ the various issues that Trump’s cabinet are going to cause for all of us – think Flynn and Russian connections)
Amir Khalid
@rikyrah:
I think that at the very least the cop should get a written reprimand about frivolous misuse of his police authority on his personnel record.
Adam L Silverman
@rikyrah: The City of Cambridge’s insurance carrier is going to be paying out the nose in the civil suit. This stuff would stop, tomorrow, if the lawsuits that resulted from these things actually effected the officers involved. You want law enforcement to stop escalating and start deescalating? Change the law to get rid of their immunity from civil liability.
Major Major Major Major
@divF: Didn’t they reject a BART extension in the 70s too? Might bring those people to the wrong neighborhoods, after all.
Adam L Silverman
@Shalimar: She’s a medical doctor who is anti-vax curious. Logic, such as you’ve suggested, would not seem to apply here.
Adam L Silverman
@Poopyman: Exactly. And I want all machines running the outdated Windows software that is no longer supported decommissioned and replaced. And I want every machine to have an auditable paper trail.
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
I hadn’t done the arithmetic (math is hard!) but that is indeed very interesting. One of the potted bios I read called her an “advisor” to Dr. Kissinger, which seems even more unlikely than that she was merely working for him.
Regarding all of Trump’s picks so far, whether for Cabinet or WH staffing or whatever — I can’t think of a one where’s he’s actually made the announcement himself. At least for the highest-level spots, isn’t it customary for the President or President-elect to go before the press with the nominee at his side, announce his choice and the reasons for that choice, along with some salient biographical details? In other words, do a little bit of fucking salesmanship on his picks? Maybe I’m misremembering, but it seems to me that so far every single one of the people he has named to high office have been leaked, or announced in tweets and press releases, or rumours confirmed on TV by a Trump surrogate. Once again, THIS IS NOT NORMAL.
Poopyman
@Adam L Silverman: And wwe shall both get ponies for Christmas!
Er, Hannukah.
Alain the site fixer
@divF: if you’re a fan of Indian, check out restaurants in the area. Lots of joy out there, especially all you can eat lunch buffet!
Shana
@Mnemosyne: The cafe at the new African American Museum is also supposed to be good, but since it’s new they’re giving out timed tickets and there aren’t any available until January. Also, the cafe at the National Gallery is decent.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: Her bio seems inflated, especially at the beginning of her career. This is not uncommon – unfortunately and more’s the pity.
As for the announcements, I don’t know. I really don’t pay too much attention to how these picks have been announced, but I do seem to recall some of the more important ones are done during a press conference. The President-elect, of course, has not held a press conference since July, despite his criticism of his opponents alleged, but not real, lack of doing so.
Shana
@efgoldman: Peter Chang has an outpost somewhere in Arlington. Best chinese food you’ve ever had.
Adam L Silverman
@Poopyman: I really don’t have room for a pony, but its the thought that counts.
Poopyman
@SiubhanDuinne:
IOW, there have been no official nominations, and he’s still free to name whomever he finally wants, probably in a prime-time televised special. It’ll be hoooge, and very very classy.
Adam L Silverman
@Alain the site fixer: There used to be a really good one in the same complex as Booz Allen’s Herndon, VA headquarters.
Alain the site fixer
@Amir Khalid: glad to see you’re back, hope you continue feeling better!
Amir Khalid
@SiubhanDuinne:
Not quite as bad as his three-step process for announcing the lineup for his inaugural concert:
1. Trumpville mentions a performer.
2. Performer frantically denies agreeing to perform.
3. Silence from Trumpville.
divF
@SiubhanDuinne: Presidents-elect do announce their high-level appointments in person. One that was really memorable for me was when I was in DC in early January 2009, and getting on the plane back to CA from Dulles. I was seeing on the TV in the departure area Obama nominating Leon Panetta as head of the CIA, with Panetta standing next to him – and I did a double-take, as Panetta was at the same time there in the flesh boarding the flight.
rikyrah
Education expert David Johns muses on how the Obama administration (and family) made education âcool.â
Written By David Johns
There is something unique that happens when I enter a room filled with people of all races and ethnicities, socio-economic status, sexual orientations, gender identities and expressions, or disabilities and proudly sayâ
âOn behalf of our President Barack Hussein Obama, our First Lady Michelle Robinson Obama, and my colleagues throughout the federal government, I thank you for supporting the learning and development of African American students.â
âThe Obama effect,â as some researchers have called it, is especially apparent when I am in community with young people. Black children, in particular, sit up a little taller, smile warmly with glittering eyes, and lean in whenever I talk about the efforts of the First Family to support their learning and to provide greater access to opportunity. For youth who have grown up with Obama, the image of the American president will never be the same. And unlike any other time I can recall, our First Family has managed to make education cool.
From the very beginning, President Obama has championed the importance of education. With stellar academic careers at Columbia University and Harvard Law School, President Obama firmly believes in the power of a quality education. His stance on education has remained consistent: If our nation makes the investment in education, children will have greater opportunities to compete in a global market and lead happy and productive lives.
Baud
@Amir Khalid:
Nugent!
Amir Khalid
@Alain the site fixer:
Thanks. But I was never really away, merely lurking.
divF
@Alain the site fixer: Will do. The nephew has also put in a bid for the Russian-Uzbeki restaurant across the street from the Ballston Metro stop (he’s been trying to make his own Borscht and Kvass).
Alain the site fixer
@Adam L Silverman: it’s an embarrassment of riches. Not like what I used to enjoy when visiting Alphabet City in the early 1990s. That was capitalism at its best, Indian restaurant form: a block with all Indian restaurants, two occupying each building, one in the lower level, one the ground floor. The competition made the prices, quality, atmosphere, and service remarkable. At lest here in NoVA there’s lots of options, so not so direct competition, but quite a lot of good food to choose from.
Adam, FYI, just got my early Christmas present, a pate terrine and fish poacher so I can make my own oblong Bain Marie. Any experience or tips or favorite recipes? I’m planning on making 2-3 batches with the last one being for a Christmas dinner. So it’s a month of learning, grinding meat, and watching the thermometer like a hawk!
SiubhanDuinne
@Poopyman:
So classy it’ll make your head spin.
I can’t help remembering when he was about to name Mike Pence as his VP choice. The night before the announcement, he reportedly called his top advisors and asked them if he could still change his mind. The next morning, he spent about half an hour in front of the mic talking about the wonderfulness of himself and his campaign and his rallies and his primary votes, then devoted maybe a minute to saying “Heeeeere’s MIKEY!!” and then scurried off stage so Pence was out there alone. If it had been anyone but Pence, I probably would have felt sorry for him.
And if it were anyone but Mittens, I probably would be feeling sorry for Rmoney right now. Sounds as though some people on Team Trump are determined to publicly humiliate him. These people are fucking sadists.
SiubhanDuinne
@divF:
Fucking tape delay, how does it work?
Amir Khalid
@Baud:
Ah, ‘Merican music at its best: crude paeans to “wangdang sweet poontang”, sung by an elderly white lout to guitar riffs stolen from African-American music pioneer (and legendarily graceful lyricist) Chuck Berry.
Iowa Old Lady
@Steeplejack (tablet): I’ve been trying not to say to myself what I wouldn’t say to a co-worker or friend. “You are so stupid.” No!
divF
OT: I’m binge-listening to Hall and Oates on youtube while I go through the various stages of prednisone reactions. It’s a suitable distraction (as are all of you).
Baud
@Amir Khalid: Amir, I’d make you an honorary American if it wasn’t for the fact that were about to enter into a period of great shame.
Maybe in four years.
Adam L Silverman
@Alain the site fixer: Congratulations on your gift! I do not have any pate or terrine recipes. I recommend you try the Food Lab and see if they have any. Also, Martha Stewart’s website. I find that her recipes are easy to follow and produce very good results (regardless of what you may think of Martha Stewart in general and/or specific).
Adam L Silverman
@divF: I was on that stuff for allergies back in April. It was not pleasant.
Poopyman
@divF: Try a Youtube search on “Daryl’s House”
eemom
I give up. You people are fucking morons if you’re fighting AGAINST a recount effort that has no conceivable downside and a CHANCE, however remote, of undoing the trump presidency. OR, comparing it to something that really is as useless as a post-inauguration march.
The glib assertions, based on NOTHING, that the recount has no chance of success? Seriously, fuck y’all.
Origuy
@efgoldman:
You mean besides Tim Berners-Lee?
SiubhanDuinne
@Amir Khalid:
Is it too late for Scott Baio and Ted Nugent to work up a comedy-musical skit? (I use both the terms “comedy” and “musical” extremely loosely.)
I keep looking at things like the last time POTUS pardons turkeys, the last time he awards the National Medal of Freedom, coming up now on the last White House Christmas. And they really do feel like the last, although I assume his Trumpiness will continue to carry on some of the traditions (I will never know; I don’t intend to follow any of that kind of coverage).
I do know that he won’t pick up a thrilled little child and swing him around, or start hoofing with a 100+ year old African American woman, or fist-bump a White House cleaner in solidarity. And I’m pretty sure Melania will just let Michelle’s garden go to seed if she has her way. Fully expect them to remove the solar panels that Obama replaced after Reagan removed the original ones that Jimmy Carter installed.
JPL
@Adam L Silverman: Poison ivy is not my friend, and the last time I had it, they gave me a steroid shot and prednisone. Not a good time.
divF
@Adam L Silverman: I’m really susceptible to steroid psychosis. Fortunately, it is a really short course (3-4 days) and relatively low dose, otherwise I would be a basket case.
I did a much longer and higher dose a long time ago, with the result that both Madame and my research team told me that were ready to leave me if I ever had to be on steroids on a long-term basis. This is one of the reasons I find autoimmune diseases so scary.
Adam L Silverman
@eemom: I can’t speak (write) for anyone else, but I think you are mistaking people’s concerns about Dr. Stein and her motives. The issue in regards to the recount is that there is no evidence that has been publicly presented about potential irregularities that would allow anyone to estimate whether a forensic audit and recount would make a difference. What we know is that one of the most senior and prestigious computer scientists specializing in security and a top election law attorney believe they have evidence of sufficient irregularities to justify Secretary Clinton filing for a forensic audit and recount. What we don’t know is what this evidence is. And we don’t know it because they have not published their data, methodology, data operations, and findings so no one else can review them and verify their conclusions. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. These gentlemen believe they have that, but no one outside of themselves, the few others they’re collaborating with on this, and the folks on the Clinton campaign team they’ve shared it with have seen it.
Do I think a forensic audit is a good thing? Yes. It should be standard for all elections period (I also think that we should require voting as in the case of Australia, but I’m strange that way). Do I think a recount is warranted? I don’t know. The margins are quite close. And once again the exit polling seems to have gotten way lost in the wrong direction. But without seeing the data, I can’t say more than that.
Jeffro
@SiubhanDuinne:
If it were anyone but Mitt, he/she might have stuck to his/her principles and told Trump, shocking win or no shocking win, “you can still go f— yourself, fraud”. So on one level, Trump is right: there are lower life forms than him.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Adam L Silverman:
Like I said we will be living in the show of Ancient Aliens before this over.
Jeffro
@Adam L Silverman: Also: no reason why we couldn’t be doing all of these things, PLUS beating on the Electors to do the responsible thing here, PLUS beating on the media to report the huge lead in popular vote margin for Clinton.
Let’s call it “walking AND chewing gum AND…chewing more gum…” We’re progressives, we’re able to keep more than 1 thought in our heads at a time. Unlike some.
SiubhanDuinne
@Jeffro:
Part of me really hopes he did.
But . . . Naaah, it’s Mitt.
Alain the site fixer
@Adam L Silverman: I’ll report my Results! My uncle has gone paleo/very low carb and makes pate as a regular part of his diet. For me, I’m much more interested in making it 2-5 times a year for special occasions. Hopefully I’ll score some good venison to throw in there!
Steeplejack (tablet)
@Iowa Old Lady:
Right! “Well, you really fucked this up again! Hope you’re happy.” When does that ever work?!
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Adam L Silverman: The recount is a simple way to bring up that Hillary won the vote. That really needs to be stressed constantly that Trump is has no legitimacy.
rikyrah
AJ+Verified account
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Two women were ordered to leave a restaurant in North Dakota by police. They say it’s because they’re #NoDAPL supporters.
debbie
@Adam L Silverman:
Don’t forget Henry was quite the ladies man back in the day.
SiubhanDuinne
@efgoldman:
Oh, good point. He didn’t even marry his Nancy until 1974.
Adam L Silverman
@divF: Good to know. Will keep you away from the hard stuff at the gym!
And feel better.
Major Major Major Major
@Jeffro: We can. The media can’t. They’re lazy and will pick the simplest framing. Because of the ‘hack gap’–only one side cares about the truth–the lazy, easy framing will probably be conservative. We need to have one thing.
Adam L Silverman
@Jeffro: No argument there.
Adam L Silverman
@Alain the site fixer: I have a good chopped liver recipe somewhere. One for both beef and chicken. I’ll look for them tomorrow and if I can find them, I’ll shoot them across to you in an email.
Let me know how it turns out.
divF
Thanks to all for the company. I’m heading to bed now, for what I hope will be the first good night’s sleep in a week.
Adam L Silverman
@debbie: I try not to think about that! ?
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
Are 19-year-old college freshmen typically entrusted with typing up the President’s Daily Brief?
Wiki link.
Emerald
@eemom:
He wants chaos in American democracy, as much chaos as he can cause. It delegitimizes the whole idea of democracy so that Russians will want it less, if at all.
SiubhanDuinne
@divF: Sweet dreams.
Hamletta
Oops! The site is dcmetrohero.com. My last comment didn’t post anyway.
debbie
@divF:
I just finished a 12-day course. They will never be able to make me take that crap again.
Matt McIrvin
@Mnemosyne: That American Indian museum cafeteria is superb. Pricey but worth it. I always eat there when I’m on the Mall.
Jeffro
@Major Major Major Major:
One would hope that they’re trainable, either collectively or individually. And we won’t know unless we try. Let Harry and Nancy and Chuck get the “NO LIES, NO CHANGES” argument going (about Medicare, Medicaid, and Obamacare). Let’s push hard on our Senators and Reps to back them up.
In the meantime, though, let’s pick our media outlets of choice and responsibly point out that a) HRC won the popular vote by over 2M; if positions were reversed, Trump supporters would be rioting in the streets and b) the EC has not yet voted, and should consider – even just based on Trump’s actions and cabinet picks since 11/8 – whether or not this is the course the Founders intended.
Amir Khalid
@SiubhanDuinne:
I think someone said the other day that if Trump tried to pardon a Thanksgiving turkey, the turkey would say, “Kill me now.” Trump is nowhere near comfortable enough in his own skin to relate to others as well as Barack Obama has done. I think Hillary also far surpasses Trump in this regard.
I also fear Trump is planning to have Michelle Obama’s garden dug up and paved over, just for spite. There’s no small amount of spite in the man.
James Powell
@Jeffro:
Exactly. A disturbingly large number of people believe that because he slammed Trump in a tirade, Mittens has principles. I’m not buying that at all. It isn’t like he volunteered to make a campaign commercial for HRC.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: No, the PDB should be prepared by the folks at the CIA. She may have been responsible for putting together the read book, but the PDB is intel product and part time interns don’t usually have Top Secret (TS)/Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) – or the time period specific equivalent – clearances. At least not that I’m aware of. Moreover, as an intern almost everything in the PDB would be things that she does not need to know and therefore would not be allowed to know.
raven
@divF: Huh, I woke up with a really sore toe. I had a bunch of shrimp yesterday so my buddy who has gout gave me a couple 5mg jobbers and I ate em. My toe feels better.
Hamletta
That was a bit cryptic. Dcmetrohero has realtime info on rail times, delays and stuff.
JPL
@debbie: Yeah.. do that after a steroid shot and see what you can accomplish.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@James Powell: I had a very brief moment of (relative) admiration for Our Willard when he refused to court Trump’s endorsement in 2012. Then he did.
A part of me thinks, and hopes, that this SoS talk is just Trump enjoying the spectacle of Willard (in Trump’s mind) coming to kiss his ring
Emerald
@Adam L Silverman:
Well, she’s not anti-vax herself, but she has no problem pandering to her anti-vax supporters.
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
Oh, well, maybe she was just lying about it to make her Wikipedia entry read more impressively.
I feel so much better now.
debbie
@JPL:
The election was about the 6th day of mine. I’m sure it had no effect on my mood…
SiubhanDuinne
@Amir Khalid:
I hope you’re wrong. I fear you’re right.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: I don’t know how the term was used in 1970. It is possible it referred to something different than what we use if for today, which is the daily intel brief put together by the CIA and now DNI. But I find it highly unlikely a 19 year old part time intern was handling highly classified information.
Steeplejack (tablet)
@efgoldman:
Takeout place is Hunan Village.
Peter Chang—not P.F. Chang!—is off Lee Highway at 2503 N. Harrison Street.
JPL
@debbie: That would have definitely done me in.
Major Major Major Major
@Emerald: when Trump does that with his Nazi supporters we don’t say nice things about him.
AliceBlue
@SiubhanDuinne:
I wonder about the Kennedy Center Honors. Will Shitgibbon and Spouse bother to attend? If they do there’s no way I can watch it.
Adam L Silverman
@AliceBlue: Actually its going to be a five night competition. The nominees will have to battle it out for the award in each category. You ever see two flautists have to fight to the death? No, no one has. So the potential audience to tune in and watch something new will be huge!!!! And, of course, it will be required by executive order pay per view.
Amir Khalid
@AliceBlue:
As long as Shitgibbon doesn’t get to pick the honourees himself. I’d fear to think about whom he considered worthy.
Adam L Silverman
@Amir Khalid: Do they give awards for ecdysiasts? Because I’m pretty sure that’s who he’d pick.
debbie
@Amir Khalid:
His kids!
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: That’s its own category! Also, depending on size, could be its own zip code.
Woodrowfan
@divF: LOTS of good places to eat in Ballston. The Mall is gutted, although the movie theater there is still open. If you want to avoid 495 to Udvar-Hazy you can take 66 West to Rt 28, then north to the Air & Space.
Feebog
@eemom:
For what it’s worth, I’m retracting my “fool’s errand remark from a previous thread.” Realistically, PA is out of reach, I think the Trump lead there is well over 100K. But Wisconsin and especially Michigan are worth a shot, as the two of them would turn the election.
Woodrowfan
@Shana: A friend who works there says show up about 2:30 or 3:00 pm and you should be able to get a timed ticket to get right in. That may NOT work this weekend with all the tourists in town.
Woodrowfan
@Adam L Silverman: she has a rep for lying about her resume… Yeah, no intern sees the PDB unless the Nixon White House was extremely! sloppy.
AliceBlue
@Adam L Silverman:
I consider myself to be reasonably well read and well educated, but I had to google that word to find out what the heck it meant.
Woodrowfan
@Steeplejack (tablet):
It’s WONDERFUL!!!!
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: Wow. Or, it could mean that the same people who were all happy talking about corrupt Democrats and how much better a Trump administration would be than a Clinton administration because REVOLUTION!!11!! are starting to sober up.
At one point, I called myself a leftist. Now, I’m ashamed to do so. Because leftists love to run around and scream “burn shit down!” and then when shit starts burning, they all run around and scream, “OMG!! SHIT’S ON FIRE!!”
Adam L Silverman
@AliceBlue: My favorite Marvel super heroine:
http://marvel.com/universe/Ecdysiast
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: It is what it is.
Origuy
@Woodrowfan: I’m thinking that January 20 might be a good day to go to the African American Museum, if you can’t get out of DC. The tourists that day won’t be interested.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: Well, ain’t *you* the fancy one with your silver-dollar words for strippers!
SiubhanDuinne
@AliceBlue:
This year it’ll still be the Obamas. After that — what a shame, I always love the KCH, but I will not be able to watch either in future. I watched when Dubya and Laura attended, Poppy and Bar, Ronnie and Nancy, probably Jerry and Betty Ford, as well as Carters and Clintons. But I’m the same, I feel almost physically ill seeing his picture, let alone trying to pretend that he supports American artists.
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: I believe they like to be referred to as apparel removal engineers.
SiubhanDuinne
@Woodrowfan:
There are a lot of things one could say (and has said) about the Nixon White House, but I’m pretty sure “sloppy” isn’t one of them.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: Ah…and you base this assertion on…shall we say…up-close and personal research?
SiubhanDuinne
@Origuy:
I kind of doubt it’ll be open that day. Could be wrong, I haven’t checked.
ChrisGrrr
@Major Major Major Major: I am very much in favor of such a browser plugin, and would help with publicizing it / whatever.
– Chris ~{at}~ grrr ~{dot}~ net
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: If garbage men want to be known as waste removal engineers, then by analogy…
NotMax
@Adam L. Silverman
Well, Chesty Morgan apparently is still among us, living in certain BJer’s slice o’ Florida.
NotMax
@Ian
Wyoming didn’t become a state until later, so no voting for prez in 1876.
Applejinx
@Iowa Old Lady: Yeah, this. I wondered if the Clinton campaign wanted Stein to do this for them.
I confess I am stunned speechless by half the blog going full Alex Jones and insisting Stein is doing it on orders from Putin and will keep all the money to run Russian primary opponents against all mainstream Democrats. I’ve never seen a nutbag CENTER before. It’s really weird to watch.
eemom, it took you this long to notice who we’re hanging around with? The shellacking I took over early Bernie (as in, NH primary early) supporting was kind of eye opening.
Alain the site fixer
@efgoldman: I’ll look again, it that’s a bog-standard function that is for some reason broken, and we’re not the only wp-basd site with this issue.