While TaMara made a return last night with her recipe exchange, I thought I’d go ahead and slip on the tiara, frilly apron, and matching oven mitts and get to work. For your gustatory pleasure, I proudly present a roasted bone out leg of lamb with root vegetables.
The recipe is really very basic, but quite delicious:
Ingredients:
1 Boneless Lamb Roast (in this case 4.5 lbs)
Kosher salt to taste
Freshly cracked black pepper to taste
Instructions:
Remove the lamb from the cryovac, remove the netting, rinse, and pat dry inside and out. Then salt and pepper the inside and outside of the lamb to taste. Let sit on the counter for an hour or so to bring the temperature of the lamb closer to room temperature. Preheat oven to 275. After an hour roll the lamb up, truss with twine tightly, and tie the twine off. Cover the bottom of a broiler pan with silver foil, then place the lamb roast onto the top of the broiler pan so the juices can run through the slits and be captured by the foil lined place. Roast until the internal temperature is 125-130 for rare or 135 for medium rare. When the internal temperature reaches your preference, remove from the oven, cover and let rest for 30 to 40 minutes. While the lamb is resting heat the oven to 500 degrees. After 30-40 minutes uncover the roast, place it back in the now 500 degree oven, and sear it for 15 minutes to crisp up the fat and make a nice, crispy crust. Remove from the oven after 15 minutes, move the roast to a cutting board, remove the twine, and slice.
(Salted and Peppered Lamb Ready for Twining)
(All Trussed Up and Nowhere to Go)
(Getting Read to Rest)
(Seared and Ready for Slicing)
Roasted root vegetables.
Ingredients
1 small bag Red heirloom potatoes
1 small bag Purple heirloom potatoes
8 stalks of celery
1 and 1/2 lbs of carrots chopped
Kosher salt to taste
Freshly cracked black pepper to taste
Minced garlic to taste
Instructions:
Rinse and then cut the potatoes in half and place in a large bowl. Rinse, trim the tops and bottoms, and then chop the celery into 1 inch pieces. Rinse, and if necessary (depending on what you’ve purchased) trim the tops from the carrots. Then chop into 1 inch pieces. Place the potatoes, celery, and carrots into a large bowl, drizzle with olive oil and toss. Then salt, pepper, and add the minced garlic to taste. Toss to coat the vegetables thoroughly and transfer to a roasting pan. Roast on the top rack of the oven while the lamb is roasting. When the lamb comes out to rest, leave the veggies in to finish as the oven heats to 500 degrees. When the lamb goes back in to sear, remove the vegetables and cover with foil until the lamb is seared, sliced, and ready for serving.
(Oiled, Seasoned, and Ready for Roasting)
And then enjoy!
Inmourning
Wow. Looks wonderful! Thx.
Major Major Major Major
The very first meal I cooked my husband was a leg of lamb roast. Different everything else, but basically the same roast! I’ve simple taste in roasts.
Corner Stone
Adam. Prepare to be gay married. I’m not asking.
glory b
Why Adam, I didn’t realize what a Renaissance man you are!
i guess while doing this, you didn’t see the bat signal put up for you in one of the threads below.
Corner Stone
In other good times, I am off to pick up some Com Bo Luc Lac as takeout.
glory b
@Corner Stone: But I’m not gay.
Wait, you weren’t talking to me?
Also, what kind of suspicious counter top is that? It would be irresponsible not to ask.
Adam L Silverman
@Major Major Major Major: Sometimes I use minced garlic. But I don’t want to overpower the meat.
Adam L Silverman
@Inmourning: It tasted yummy too!
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman: Lamb can be tricky like that, especially the leg.
debbie
Makes my can of tuna fish dinner seem shabby.
JordanRules
I’ve yet to tackle a lamb roast. I love lamb and this looks amazing.
Anybody have a great chutney recipe?
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: I’m going to work that out as a compliment.
And to answer your question from downstairs:
Its a violation of the Emoluments Clause. Call the House Oversight Committee #: (202) 225-5074 and politely tell the staffer that answers the phone that you want the committee to 1) investigate the apparent conflicts of interests of President-elect Trump, National Security Advisor designate LTG (ret) Flynn, and Vice President-elect Pence, as well as the Trump transition team and with subpoenas for Trump’s taxes, the Trump Organization’s taxes, as well as for all loan documents, investments, etc. You’ll likely get voicemail this week as they’re on vacation for Thanksgiving, but leaving a message will get recorded. Or call first thing the Monday after Thanksgiving. They are tallying the calls for this and by all reports there is an overwhelming amount of people calling and asking for such an investigation. The more that call as soon as possible, the more likely you’ll get this started in the lame duck with a carryover, if necessary, to the next session of Congress.
From all reports the staffers working the phones are telling people that the message is getting through, but there is a limited amount of time to get this started once Congress comes back from the Thanksgiving holiday. So the more pressure the better.
Adam L Silverman
@glory b: Nope, took a quick look, saw Corner Stone’s question, but was up to my elbows in vittles!
Where there more questions than just Corner Stone’s?
schrodinger's cat
Roast looks delicious, also too nice countertop! I am not a fan of very busy patterns.
Felonius Monk
@efgoldman: Ouch!
Adam L Silverman
@debbie: Tuna for dinner is a personal favorite of mine. I buy the packets as they taste less tinny.
laura
It’s almost identical to my grandma Foley’s leg-o-lamb!
Rinse and quarter russet potatoes long-ways, place in large, shallow roaster.
Bone, trim and season leg with Salt and pepper. Sliver and insert as much garlic as you prefer. Roll and tie as uniformally as possible. Place atop or amongst potatoes and decorate with rosemary.
Roast to medi rare. Rest covered.
Scrape up juices and fond. Add a slurry of cornstarch or roasted flour roux and bring to boil. Adjust season to OMG savory.
Slice and serve with jus roast potatoes.
M/4, I’m with you on husbands and roasts.
raven
Bone it a stuff it with feta.
BillinGlendaleCA
@efgoldman: Ouch!
BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman: Silly Adam. From the previous thread, here’s the answer.
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: They respond to pressure. Its being reported in the primary DC paper, WaPo, they’re getting it directed at them on social media. The Wall Street Journal editorial page called yesterday for a complete sell off and divestment of all assets, placing the proceeds into a true blind trust, and having the family draw a stipend from it. The cable news, other than Fox, has got their teeth into it. Pakistan has just made a statement in the past couple of hours challenging/questioning India’s no first strike policy because the President-elect met with his Indian business partners on Friday about his business in India. They are tied to the current Indian government, hence Pakistan’s concerns. The conflicts of interest have just crossed into the realm of strategic miscommunication, specifically with one of two regional nuclear weapon states interpreting the business dealings of the next President as placing them at risk of a nuclear first strike. This is going to get worse. It is going to get more coverage. Pressure will continue to mount. So part of the message you give when you call needs to be “we expect Congress to get ahead of this, regardless of which party is in the majority in the House or Senate and we expect it before a nuclear war breaks out between India and Pakistan”.
Does it mean it will? No, there’s no guarantee. Does it mean that even if there is one, the committee will get anywhere or not be just for show? No, also no guarantee. But one of the keys to success in an insurgency is to work the seams. To work the small openings and turn them into larger ones. This is an opening. It needs to be worked.
Mnemosyne
@Major Major Major Major:
I bought kind of a ridiculous amount of chocolate at Ghirardelli, but the dark chocolate salted caramel minis are hard to find. And thanks again for your hospitality and Samwise entertainment!
@glory b:
Adam gave me the instructions to make a prime rib roast last year. I screwed up the temperature a bit because my thermometer didn’t work so it came out more rare than I would have liked, but everyone else loved it.
BGinCHI
Vegan alternative: Roast length of twine.
Adam L Silverman
@laura: Cactus Jack, is that you?
Adam L Silverman
@raven: That’s nice too. Not what I wanted tonight though. How’s the Mrs wrist?
BillinGlendaleCA
@efgoldman:
Huh? UW is crushing ASU. Oh, UCLA. We’re a Basketball school(this year).
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: Same roasting idea here. Reverse sear. Start off low, hit the temp you want, remove to rest, then place back in to sear the fat into an nice crispy crust with a quick blast of high heat. Then slice and serve. I have a probe thermometer that I use – the type with the wire that connects to the digital readout outside the oven. Works great.
BillinGlendaleCA
@BGinCHI: LMAO.
Adam L Silverman
@BGinCHI: Now you’ve ruined HillaryR’s post for tomorrow.
debbie
@BGinCHI:
Very funny! Did the tofu ooze out?
@Adam L Silverman:
Oil-packed is less tinny. I go with either Hellmans and cinnamon or lime juice and soy sauce. Still ain’t lamb!
raven
@Adam L Silverman: Fucked. We drove back from the beach and now have to see what the deal is. We were told that we can go to the Urgent Care unit of the Local Ortho outfit and have it be just a “walk-in” and not urgent care. We already went to both urgent care and a Ortho outfit in Panama City and I’m certain the insurer won’t pay for two visits to urgent care for the same injury. I’m also pretty sure that we’re going to be on the hook for the Ortho visit (with X-rays). We are just fortunate at I called our HR person and bitched about getting a “call during business hours” message about ten times during business hours. The BCBS rep called me the night before the surgery in Florida and said ” the is ZERO chance that your policy will cover out-of-state” surgery. If we had gone ahead with it there is no telling how much it would have been. As for her wrist, it hurts and the pain meds are making her tummy hurt.
thanks
Adam L Silverman
@raven: Sorry to read all that and that it screwed up your time away. We’ll keep good thoughts.
Felonius Monk
@Adam L Silverman: That post will probably be titled “The Silence of the Twines”.
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: Glad you made it there! Samwise is exhausted!
gogol's wife
@Adam L Silverman:
I tried that number all day Friday and kept being told “the mailbox is full.”
gogol's wife
@raven:
I’m so sorry!
Adam L Silverman
@gogol’s wife: They’d left for the Thanksgiving holiday. My guess is you’ll not get through or anything until the Monday or Tuesday after Thanksgiving. Unless Pakistan decides to nuke Mumbai before then.// (I hope not!!)
Mnemosyne
@Major Major Major Major:
I did manage to get on the wrong train to Oakland, but I was keeping an eye on the map and was able to get off at 19th St. and course-correct. Standing in line for Southwest boarding now.
raven
@efgoldman: Blue Cross Blue Shield Georgia HMO
“Out-of-Area Services
Emergency care or urgent care provided outside of the Health Plan’s service area which could not be delayed until the member returned to the service area.”
Iowa Old Lady
@raven:
The nerve of her leaving home and getting hurt!
That is prime BS.
raven
@Iowa Old Lady: I started to get pissed but then realized I was really fortunate she called me and gave me the skinny.
We are also lucky that we rented from a friend and she’s going to give us credit for the time missed.
Iowa Old Lady
@raven: That’s the glass half full way to look at it, I guess. Things like this are why we need national health insurance.
raven
@Iowa Old Lady: Nothing else I can do. All I know is that my hernia surgery was 36k and this would have been as much.
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: Ah, yes, that happens. Glad you’re gonna make it!
Ohio Mom
@gogol’s wife: You can go to the committee’s site and call the individual committee members (click on their pics, scroll to the bottom of the Rep’s page for contact numbers). That’s what I tried to do, anyhow, on the advice of Representative Cumming’s office (Cummings is the commitee’s Democratic co-chair).They told me to call the Republicans.
I made six of the possible 24 calls on Friday (it is a big committee). At first it was somewhat fun talking to some of the young people who get stuck answering calls. I like to think I raised a few consciousnesses, planted a few seeds. But the smug ones wore me out. I might try again Monday morning.
It was pretty clear that they’d been getting a lot of calls.
schrodinger's cat
@Adam L Silverman:
Not funny. At all.
Mnemosyne
Good thing I bought those cheapo earbuds on Amtrak — I’m sitting next to a baby on my flight. Hopefully she’ll fall asleep after getting fed.
Smiling Mortician
@Adam L Silverman: Adam, do you mind if I copy a chunk of this (basically the who-to-call, what-to-say part) to include in a post on FB?
Adam L Silverman
@schrodinger’s cat: That was supposed to be hope not, hence the sarc tags. Going back to fix it now. Sorry!
BBA
@Adam L Silverman: The emoluments clause refers to the “consent of Congress.” Is there any reason why Ryan and McConnell can’t rush through a bill saying “we consent to all emoluments to the President, valid until noon on 1/20/2021” and if they can do it, why wouldn’t they?
Adam L Silverman
@Smiling Mortician: Sure, go right ahead.
Adam L Silverman
@BBA: Anything is possible.
BBA
@Adam L Silverman: Seems like a perfect quid pro quo to me. “We agree to let you keep your foreign income if you agree to let us abolish Medicaid, deal?”
Jay S
It struck me that the Trump transitition team were like Keystone cops. Does that make Donald the Keystone copperhead?
Schlemazel
@Adam L Silverman:
mailbox is full & they are refusing additional messages right now. I am emailing Kieth Ellison and will try the phone number again next week just in case.
THANKS FOR THIS. This is the sort of action that could actually bring this bastard to heel and save us all yet
Adam L Silverman
@Schlemazel: Try the individual committee members. Specifically the GOP ones and start with Chaffetz!
Schlemazel
@efgoldman:
I think the GOP wants to take down Trump more than we do, so, yes. hopefully Pence gets soiled at the same time but if not the damage is done and it is a start.
Brachiator
Coming in late (or early, California time). The lamb recipe looks fun, and simple. I like simple.
Schlemazel
@Adam L Silverman:
That is how we do prime rib. I have a clay pot big enough for a 10 lb roast with a clay lid. it holds the low temp pretty even. The difference doing it your way is night and day to the standard “350 til done” method.
I wish I felt like dropping a buck and a half on a sous vide circulator. Probably could not do even a 5 lb roast but a couple of pounds to about 135 then a quick char under the broiler should be perfect.
Brachiator
@Schlemazel:
Unfortunately, I think that the GOP would love to remove Trump and elevate Pence into the presidency. He would be more reliably conservative, more predictable, and is a religious nut job.
debbie
@efgoldman:
I agree. I think they think they can play him like a fiddle.
Schlemazel
@raven:
Crap! I missed that story. Sorry to hear the mrs got dinged and worse that you are getting screwed over by our fabulous free market healthcare system. lots of pain meds give my better half tummy issues, if it would help I can ask her when she gets home which one caused her less discomfort, maybe you could get a new Rx
Major Major Major Major
@debbie: Yep. They’re wrong, of course.
Schlemazel
@Ohio Mom:
That sounds worthwhile. Do you have some key points that you think got the most attention?
Ohio Mom
@Brachiator: I think the same. In fact, I think we should have a Balloon Juice pool on the day Trump steps down and Pence steps up.
debbie
@Major Major Major Major:
Right. But hilarity will not ensue.
Schlemazel
@efgoldman:
He was not their favorite to start with. He is an uncouth blabber mouth that they can’t trust. He could turn on them just as easily as he turned on to 12 clowns in the primary and bring them all down. They are not convinced he can be dealt with or that any agreement they think they have with him will last any longer than the time it takes for him to leave the room. They would prefer Pence.
I do not see Pence as an upgrade for us but at this time chaos in the incoming administration is a good thing for us. Disruption of their flow will impeded their work, and that may be the best we can hope for. It might drive a wedge between the GOP and the loonie battalion. I don’t see Pence appointing as big a group of assholes as Trump has so far so it is all worth a try
Major Major Major Major
@efgoldman: Yes, but everybody will be trying to do that to him. Everybody in the world.
Jay S
@Schlemazel: You should be able to find waterbath cookers for 100$ or less with holiday sales. You may need to buy a suitable container. I’ve done 2 lbs or so in small containers with my Anova. With a larger waterbath 5 lbs should be ok.
jeffreyw
Lamb? Phhht! Give me country ribs any day.
Jay S
@efgoldman: Well, yes. I should have said evil Keystone cops. So KKKeystone Copperhead should work.
Brachiator
@Schlemazel:
Sounds like a vain hope to me. And things will probably settle down by the inauguration.
Isn’t Pence in charge of the transition? I would think he would have some influence over appointments. And any GOP field is going to be full of neoconservatives and religious hardliners. And even without Trump, the new GOP base expects results, and what they want would never please liberals.
Schlemazel
@Jay S:
I have been looking at the Anova but not seen them for $100. I am not sure I could get a 5 pound roast into a vacuum bag though. I have containers but how large a container could an Anova reliably maintain temp? Thanks
Schlemazel
@Brachiator:
All possible no doubt. OTOH the turmoil and upheaval will not serve them well. there is still the hope of in-fighting on their side.
I dont see a down side to making a stink on this issue
ruemara
Funny, this. I’m planning to cook oxtail. But I dinnah have a presser cooker. Oops. I don’t think I remember grandma using a pressure cooker for oxtail, but I may be wrong.
Had a fun day with lovely cats and a very friendly fellow named Samwise, who was also a lovely cat. There were humans there, too. From this blog with cats. and politics. Thanks, Mem, Major (4) & Dark!
Lizzy L
@Schlemazel: Mike Pence is a loathsome rightwingnutjob p***k, but he is not a sociopathic narcissist, and he is not going to drop nukes on Iran or North Korea because they insult his hair. Trump is Chaos personified compared to Mike Pence.
Adam, that’s a gorgeous roast, and I love roasted root vegetables.
jeffreyw
@Schlemazel: I have a 6.5 gallon container that the Anova circulator kept at 175 for a pork shoulder.
Major Major Major Major
@ruemara: Thanks for coming! Samwise says meow.
Schlemazel
@Lizzy L:
I assume the same thing. I think no matter which we are badly screwed on many issues as we were under Boy Blunder. I am not convinced that domestically we are any better under Pence than Trump but internationally we would be. Try to control the damage and cause as much harm to them is a resistance fight, a ‘rear-guard action’, if I may. It is not designed to give us a great victory but to deny they time and space to do their worst. Maybe we would get lucky and start a civil war in the GOP, maybe nothing positive comes out of it & we are no better off but if we don’t try then we for sure will be no better off. I have no faith that the Dems in DC will do enough.
Schlemazel
@jeffreyw:
That is larger than I assumed it would do. I was thinking I have an insulated 5 gallon cooler that I thought would stand a chance of working.
Jay S
@Schlemazel: I can’t find any specs on the web page any more but I remember the Anova being able to handle up to 5 gallons of water. That depends on the amount of heat loss in the container of course, and I have read about (small) beer cooler cooks with it. I don’t know that I would take a single 5 lb slab and cook it myself. But with the right container I would be comfortable with 2 or 3 sections in separate bags. OTOH I’ve never done that much at once. There may be people with more experience. Doing it as a single piece might involve cook times that I wouldn’t be comfortable with.
Jay S
@Schlemazel: @jeffreyw: Or what Jeffery said.
Brachiator
@Schlemazel:
I am not seeing a huge amount of turmoil and upheaval so far. I am also seeing some consistency in the ideological outlook of the Trump team. And so far, both Trump and the GOP are well served. And note that I see the interests of the GOP and of Trump as being separate, but overlapping.
On the other hand, I am not seeing the huge benefit that you do from temporary roadblocks.
Omnes Omnibus
@Brachiator: I don’t see him mentioning a huge benefit.
Brachiator
@Lizzy L:
We’re not going to drop nukes on Iran. We may, on the other hand, let Israel drop nukes on Iran.
I see that McCain vows to oppose Trump on waterboarding. We will soon see what happens with any GOP resistance.
An interesting indirect sign of GOP capitulation may be seen if Romney is offered, and accepts, a cabinet position.
Schlemazel
@Brachiator:
We may have gone too many replies here. The turmoil would come from the house investigating Trump leading to his impeachment. Naturally that turmoil has not started yet
Also, what would you suggest we do? All I am saying is to try to disrupt, confuse, delay, annoy, stall, impede and try to cause as much trouble for Trump and the GOP as possible. I already said it is not a huge benefit but what else do you suggest? SIt around & hope that the Congressional Dems grow spines?
Adam L Silverman
@jeffreyw: Those look good to. I’ve got a recipe for them somewhere.
Barbara
@Adam L Silverman: Thank you for suggesting specific action. This is going to be incredibly ugly and we would all be justified in nonstop whining but it would not accomplish much. I made vegan cauliflower soup and had it along with artisan baguette bread for dinner but your lamb looks great. I like to rest up before the big day.
Lizzy L
Some interesting pushback against Mike Pompeo — the first I’ve seen.
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/trumps-cia-director-pick-thinks-using-encryption-may-itself-be-a-red-flag
@Brachiator: I don’t have any faith in GOP resistance.
CarolPW
@ruemara:
You don’t need a pressure cooker – I do them like Nigel Slater, oxtail marinated overnight in a bottle of red wine, a couple of garlic heads cut in half width-wise, a little vinegar and whatever herbs you want. Put in a pot with a cover and roast at 350 for a couple of hours. Caramelized onions added before cooking is great. Put it over mashed potatoes, polenta or some other starch thing.
Adam L Silverman
@Lizzy L: If I ever go through my permanent change of station (I know where my paperwork is and its moving at the speed of government…) and get relocated, if you come to a seminar in the area, I’ll cook. Ask George next time you see him. I’ve cooked for him and Jeanie.
Adam L Silverman
@Barbara: Its not whining. Remember, a BS headline in an AP tweet set off months of questions of dark clouds and questions and is there smoke reporting about the Clinton Foundation. Even if Trump was within the mainstream of either party, was appointing his senior staff from the mainstream of either party, and was proposing doing things that were within the mainstream of either party, the business related conflicts of interests would be unacceptable. Hell, President Carter was pressured into divesting himself of his peanut farming operation because someone raised the appearance of impropriety. So constant, reasonable (in tone) pressure on this. On social media – to appropriate news media and politicians, by contacting the Oversight Committee overall and its members, is the way to go. Make this about the specific conflicts, not is the President-elect a good person, is he right for the country, etc. Make it about the conflict of interests and why it is unacceptable. Just that. And push till it gives. Push either for a complete liquidation of the Trump Organization and divestment of everything in his various business portfolios with the proceeds going into a proper blind trust managed by an independent trustee with him and his family getting a stipend or for Congressional and, if appropriate, criminal investigations.
Lizzy L
@Adam L Silverman: It’s a deal, Adam!
Adam L Silverman
@Lizzy L: Now grab my wrist!
Major Major Major Major
@Lizzy L:
Of course not. Have you seen his hair?
Brachiator
@Schlemazel:
I am not seeing anything concrete here. Who is going to cause disruption, what is it that they are going to disrupt? You seem to be using the language of guerilla campaigns to apply to a political transfer of power.
I understand the frustration, but I don’t see anything coming of what you suggest.
Major Major Major Major
@Brachiator: It’s pretty easy to be disruptive in the Senate. In the House, um, I guess you could wander in and out in front of the cameras and rustle papers loudly.
trollhattan
@efgoldman:
Talkin’ football? Talk about an interception! Elastaman.
ruemara
@CarolPW: Making Jamaican style. I’m afraid wine would shift the taste towards the rustic French style. That’s a stovetop method, but I got time.
Omnes Omnibus
@Brachiator:
We should. Call your Congresscritters and ask for investigations as noted above. Pressure your Democratic Senators to use the filibuster and holds. Use social media and personal relationships to encourage others to do the same. Alternatively, we could complain on the internet.
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: True and true.
Barbara
@Adam L Silverman: I was way too cryptic. It is not whining to go after the conflict of interest especially one that could lead to a conflagration. I meant the more generalized wringing of hands, which I understand but am trying to avoid by focusing on actions, even if they are small and not guaranteed to work.
Lizzy L
@Major Major Major Major: It’s white and sprayed on. It looks like he stole it from a rabbit.
Lizzy L
@Omnes Omnibus: Some of us multi-task. I can call my Congresscritter, post on social media, and complain on the Internet.
Brachiator
@Adam L Silverman:
Have we ever had a president who was actively running a business when elected? I can’t recall whether Warren Harding still had the newspaper that helped lead to his early business success.
I can see trying to make Trump divest himself of his interest, but I am not sure about making his children give up their interests. But it is certainly worth a shot.
Major Major Major Major
@Lizzy L: You are so going to get nuked!
Omnes Omnibus
@Lizzy L: You are a better man than me, Gunga Din.
Hypatia RIP
Having Pence tag in would be a real mixed bag… On one hand foreign policy and control of state secrets can only get better with the Children of the Corn out of the picture. I wonder if Bannon would be out too, provided the establishment GOP hasn’t lost its reflexive habit of keeping the racism in dog whistle mode.
I would hope that dialing back the worst of the white nationalist demagoguery would result in an overall safer situation for PoC. However so far it seems like The Orange One is pretty unconcerned with LGBTQ issues whereas Pence would put a huge emphasis on rolling back marriage equality as possible.
Pence certainly feels less like we’re just adrift in unknown waters, which is pretty tempting right now. But none of it is even close to good, so…
Brachiator
@Schlemazel:
Ah. A GOP Congress investigating and impeaching Trump. Not gonna happen.
Not unless Trump does something that seriously alienates him from his base. We are still in the honeymoon phase of the base ‘s relationship with Trump.
D58826
@efgoldman: Oversight in Trump world. Chair of House Intelligence (oxymoron I know) committee is planning on hearings to look into the Adm. Rodgers affair. He plans on calling WH witnesses to explain why they are maligning such a fine public servant as Adm. Rodgers, The Chair is also concerned that the WH leaked classified information in it’s attempt to make this fine public servant look bad.
Any body who was thinking the GOP would impeach Das Fuhrer, just dream on.
Lizzy L
Just riffing here: but I have the feeling that T depends on the family, especially Ivanka and Kushner, for his psychological stability, such as it is. Not sure we’d like what would happen if they were “out of the picture.”
BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus:
I’m with ya on that man.
Omnes Omnibus
@Lizzy L: He doesn’t meet with anyone without one of them there.
Major Major Major Major
@BillinGlendaleCA: Go fuck yourself.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Lizzy L:
Unpossible!
BillinGlendaleCA
@Major Major Major Major: That might be more enjoyable than what I’m doing, thanks bud.
Adam L Silverman
@Barbara: Tracking.
Adam L Silverman
@Brachiator: Carter was still the owner of a peanut growing, harvesting, and warehousing operation in Georgia. He had disclosed it. It was all above board. He was still pressured into divesting himself of it.
Lizzy L
@Omnes Omnibus: It looks that way. I wonder if Bannon fills some of the same role.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Lizzy L: Bannon is the ShitGibbon’s Karl Rove, so yes.
Adam L Silverman
@D58826: He’s had two major security breaches on his watch. Both of his supervisors have recommended his immediate termination. And he’s now jumped the chain of command and went to meet with the President-elect without authorization or notifying anyone he reports to. He’s going to be lucky to just be terminated.
Omnes Omnibus
@Brachiator:
His kids can be involved in the gov’t to the extent allowed by law or be a part of the Trump businesses. It is up to them. If they chose gov’t, then conflict of interest laws apply. If they chose to be outside and they get classified info that benefits Trump Inc., then laws have been broken.
Keith P.
Any boxing fans watch the ward-kovalev fight tonight? Really great chess match after a bit of a fast start. It wasn’t a knock-down, drag-out war, but it was a true example of boxing as the sweet science. Two top p4p undefeated fighters going 12 rounds, separated by 3 points over 3 cards. Hard to get any closer
Major Major Major Major
@BillinGlendaleCA: Aw, y’know I was just saying that.
Lizzy L
@Adam L Silverman: I can imagine a scenario in which Rogers is terminated and T. immediately announces that Rogers is his pick for Director of National Intelligence.
Omnes Omnibus
@Keith P.: I am guessing that my dad did. Does that help?
Adam L Silverman
@Lizzy L: Wouldn’t surprise me. It is unclear what is actually going on with Rogers.
Omnes Omnibus
@Lizzy L: He deserves to be relieved. All else is commentary.
Mnemosyne
@ruemara:
@Major Major Major Major:
If I have a nightmare tonight about a lazy fried egg, I’ll know who to blame. ?
Keith P.
Oh, god, SNL roasted CNN’s Groundhog Day panels. It makes the station unwatchable, and SNL nailed them on how stale it is. Every segment has the exact same script, and it segued into…Westworld! Absolutely AWESOME!!!!
Keith P.
@Keith P.: And here’s the link
NotMax
Rosemary. Lamb cries out for rosemary.
Gonna be lamb Wellington for Turkey Day din-din, provided can find a decent hunk o’ meat when do the shopping.
Omnes Omnibus
@Keith P.: That link was to a promo for Westworld.
D58826
@Adam L Silverman: But in Trump world the supervisors are being investigated. And given the howling and screaming about e-mails sigh
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: better that than a nightmare about a person cosplaying as a lazy fried egg!
EBT
@Omnes Omnibus: We live in a post reality world. Legal and Truth have no meanings.
Omnes Omnibus
@D58826: What do you mean?
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Scroll down a scoche.
Omnes Omnibus
@EBT: Give the fuck up then. Or start a rebellion. If you really think that, do one or the other.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: Them’s fightin’ words!
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: God, he was being sincere with that? Oh, dear.
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: Um, yes.
Adam L Silverman
@D58826: They’re not being investigated. Congressman Nunes asked Director Clapper and SecDef Carter to send him a letter explaining what the issues are as nothing has previously been brought to him in terms of oversight. He then indicated if they didn’t, then he’d call a hearing. Given that this is a personnel matter and now a chain of command matter, my guess is that’s what they’re going to tell him. I would also expect that ADM Rogers is going to have a very long, unpleasant meeting with the DNI and SecDef in order to account for what went on/was discussed with the President-elect. And how that meeting goes will determine if he’s fired, allowed to resign, or he’s referred for either an Article 15 or 32 inquiry. My guess is they’ll try to keep it to the second one, with the first one as the preferred alternative unless the details of the meeting with the President-elect are really, really problematic.
D58826
@Omnes Omnibus: hillary’s e-mails
D58826
@Adam L Silverman: ah. thanks. Anything that would then prevent Trump from turning around and hiring him? Trump seems impervious to public outrage
Adam L Silverman
And I’m to bed. Everyone have a good night. I’m sure someone will be along with the late night/overnight post.
NotMax
The miasma spills across the border.
Adam L Silverman
@D58826: No worries. You had to read all the way to the end of the Daily Beast article (if that’s the one you’d read) before the specific details of what Congressman Nunes is asking for/about become clear. If you just read a tweet or the lede you wouldn’t have gotten it.
J R in WV
@schrodinger’s cat:
There was a missing word Adam used, which changes (I hope) to (I hope not)!
I’m sure you felt better with that negative not in there, I did. Trump is so ignorant of national geopolitical issues he could start a war anywhere in the world just through a lack of attention and ignorance of the local customs and expectations!
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: I also guess resignation. At his level, they will give him the chance to walk away and end his career without the ick that comes from an investigation.
Adam L Silverman
@NotMax: What’s really surprising here is that Canadians are far better at geography and far more informed about politics, so you’d expect a Canadian to recognize that 1) he’s in Canada and 2) Trump is not Canadian and is not going to be the elected leader of Canada. Just a poor showing all around.
Adam L Silverman
@J R in WV: I emailed her to make sure she understood that my fingers out typed my brain on that one…
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: Yep. If he gives them a hard time, or if the meeting with Trump raises hackles, it could get interesting. The amount of wackiness around the transition, even if some of it is simply manufactured for the press, is just strange.
Adam L Silverman
@J R in WV: post on strategic miscommunication coming most likely tomorrow. Got a spiffy Able Archer video with classic early 80s rock in it too!
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: Spills? Show me that it was not there before.
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
Rightly or not, an awful lot of people take cues from what happens in America (culturally, economically, politically) and now apparently interpret the election results as giving them free rein to slither out into the open.
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: I get that. But it did not magically appear in Canada on 11/09. The Canadian assholes may feel more free since our election, but we didn’t cause it. Your phrasing implied that we did.
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
You can’t deny the election results triggered an uptick in such incidents since the election.
Miasma is an unpleasant odor, a stench. These people sniffed it in the wind and found it enticing and energizing.
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: Great. How will Canada save you?
O. Felix Culpa
@CarolPW:
Sounds great! How do you get the oxtails in the bottle? //
HinTN
I’m late to the party but I like to use the whole clove of garlic and I like to have beets, turnips, onions, and parsnips in the mix with the taters and carrots.
Nonetheless, that’s a tasty looking meal, Fifi.
Miss Bianca
Damn. looks lovely. Now I want to make leg o’ lamb.