My vision of America. A former convict getting a fresh start with Snoop Dogg. Beautiful. RT @timmhotep: #Loving pic.twitter.com/eQZhSuMZ5C
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My vision of America. A former convict getting a fresh start with Snoop Dogg. Beautiful. RT @timmhotep: #Loving pic.twitter.com/eQZhSuMZ5C
— Kozza (@Kozza) November 7, 2016
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Punchy
Fo’ shizzle my Jizzle.
GrandJury
What that is even supposed to mean?
The Moar You Know
Y’know, the wonderful thing about those two is that they are both utterly charming separately; together they’re off the charts. She’s got the polish, he has the cred. Both amazingly smart. They’re entertaining as all hell.
Jeffro
Do we have a master list somewhere of all the insulting nicknames we have given to Orangemandias this election?
cain
She looks oddly alluring in that picture.
peach flavored shampoo
Mid-afternoon? Where are you posting from, St. Kitts?
The lack of exit poll data is refreshing. Dont need adverse anecdotal data to send me into a hot mess.
sharculese
@GrandJury: They have a new cooking show on VH1 where they square off in themed challenges with the assistance of celebrity guests. First episode aired last night. Fried chicken. It started weak because Stewart was unsure of herself and kind of wooden, but the longer it went on the more she got into the spirit of things. It’s not gonna be appointment tv but it seems fun.
trollhattan
@GrandJury:
<delDon'tNever leave the lair, do you?
Dork
@Jeffro: why not start a list of ’em on this thread? Here goes– Mango Mussolini
trollhattan
Somewhat election-related–one of my favorite citizen corporations is Patagonia, makers of breathtakingly expensive outdoor clothing and gear (that generally lasts long enough to justify the price, but anyway). They’re innovators of sustainable manufacturing, ethical sourcing, product recycling, low-impact agriculture, etc. and are passionate about voting the environment.
Got an email today with a reminder to vote the environment, a tool for finding your polling place and this postscript:
Meanwhile at Koch Industries….
Pogonip
Cole, what happened to Walter’s previous owner? Did he go to jail?
Mary G
They do have mad chemistry. I saw a clip from the new $25,000 Pyramid where she was describing decorative elements like wainscoting and foyer and he was guessing them all right.
Face
@Dork: I love NotMax’s term: Carrot Flop
MJS
@cain: Oddly? Look at some pictures of a younger Martha. She was a model at one point, I believe.
Calouste
@Dork: Short-fingered cheeto-faced ferret-topped shitgibbon.
cain
@MJS: It’s because she is oddly cold for some reason.
Gelfling 545
@cain: It’s a trait often ascribed to successful females.
divF
This show will never go over with the WWC demo.
daryljfontaine
Reposting from downstairs:
Off-topic, but interesting/infuriating for Election Day: real-time Google Trends map of increased searches for common voting problems.
– Provisional ballots
– Inactive voter status
– Long wait times
– Voter intimidation
– Voting machine problems
Here’s a direct link to the map.
D
Shell
Yesterday TCM showed a slew of movies with political themes. And today…all movies about test pilots? I think some zany comedies would have served us better on a day like today.
trollhattan
@MJS:
Martha has always been dishy and she’s now seventy-five for Pete’s sake–just look at her!
Never felt strongly about her–other than marveling at the power of her brand back in the ’80s and ’90s–but was appalled at her prosecution and conviction. After the ’08 crash yielded effectively zero prison time for the culprits I became 10x as appalled. Some scalp they got.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@The Moar You Know:
And if those two crazy kids can’t make it work, there’s no chance for any of us!
Adam L Silverman
@trollhattan: She’s also a good source of foolproof recipes if you need something in a pinch. My knife set is part of her branded collection. I don’t know who actually made them, but its one of the best knife sets I’ve ever used/had.
scav
@Adam L Silverman: One finds good knives where one can. Two of my best were made by a guy living in a woodstove-heated shack in a boat junkyard, the newest is Italian from a town market in Olonzac France.
hedgehog mobile
Hair Furor and Mangled Apricot Hellbeast are my faves. Why no I can’t focus on work today, why do you ask?
raven
@scav: I sort of like my Sabatier knives.
scav
@raven: Tooooo Funny! I had to check, but those are my other four good ones (I have an indulgent sister with a similar love of blades.) Carbon Steel!
(ETA Is the “sort of” because of the staining? That never bothered me, but then growing up my mom had one that we called “The Black Knife” out of pure affection.)
Joyce H
@trollhattan:
OMG! I had to google that because I didn’t believe it – but sure enough, she’s seventy-five!
Man, I need to start, I dunno, moisturizing or something!
raven
@scav: Nah, tongue and cheek. They are the best!
waysel
Der Trumpenfurher. And ask Betty Cracker.
redshirt
For a stoner, Snoop Dog is remarkably active. He’s moved into the legal marijuana space in a big way and I wouldn’t be surprised if it makes a him a billionaire in the end. Who wouldn’t trust Snoop brand weed? Or nutrients? Or bongs? I think he’s got a place in the entire vertical chain of marijuana production and consumption.
It’s a gold rush.
raven
@Joyce H: Tijuana Tuck and Roll
raven
@redshirt: His son was a pretty good wide out but I don’t think he liked being hit at the UCLA level.
Eugene in Eugene
@scav: My first chef’s knife was a carbon-steel hand-me-down from my parents that must’ve seen 30 years use between us before the handle became loose. It was cost-prohibitive to repair, so I’m currently on year nine of the Wustoff Classic I replaced it with.
(And yes, it was stained like the dickens.)
Mnemosyne
Snoop Dogg has also been doing some good work locally by getting LAPD and Black Lives Matter to talk to each other and try to work together. He’s only a couple of years younger than I am, so when he was goofing around and doing porn movie cameos in his 20s, I was thinking, Dude, you are so going to regret that once you settle down and have kids.
piratedan
just reading all of this anecdata while humming the Eurythmics tune of Sisters are doing it for themselves
Mnemosyne
@Joyce H:
Sunscreen. It’s all about sunscreen and not smoking.
Daoud bin Daoud
“Der Drumpfenführer” and “Donnie Littlefingers” are two I’ve used in recent postings.
Shell
From the british paper, The Guardian. Your Election Night Survival Guide.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/08/us-election-day-night-guide-polls-close
I forgot that a some states close before 8pm EST. Florida at 7!
*********
They also have a recipe for a ‘The Donald’ cocktail, which looks absolutely disgusting!
catclub
@Adam L Silverman:
wow. Still working on first knife set 35+ years later. No indication they will be gone before I am. What do you do to them?
Pogonip
My father slipped on the ice and broke his hip sometime in the (19)90’s. So we go into his hospital room to see him and ask how he is and he replies “Somebody better call Snoop Doggy Dog and tell him I won’t be able to dance in his sow for a while.”
scav
@raven: Whew. Should have trusted my guts, but some are a little freaked by the coloring.
And I’m going to need all the absorption in geeky details of all personal obsessions I can get to make it through the rest of this day. I’m not sure the good book I set aside is going to be able to handle it (although it will at least keep me away from the interwebs if I can click into that hard-print brain).
Pogonip
@Pogonip: Oops. His show. Not his sow. Dancing in his sow would be difficult even if she were one of those enormous state fair prize winners.
catclub
@Joyce H: Jacques Pepin is well over eighty, Julia Child was over 91 when she died.
Doing a cooking show seems to keep one young.
Pogonip
@Mnemosyne: Sounds like a good guy.
nominus
Look, it’s been settled
GrandJury
@sharculese: Ok, never heard of it. Will never watch it.
catclub
@Eugene in Eugene:
I just remembered that the tip broke off one of our knives. We sent it back since I guess it was lifetime guaranteed. They replaced it.
Either Wusthof or Henckels.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
amk
gopolitico fp headline for hours now – trump hopes for a miracle.
the mofos don’t even hide their shilling any more.
Mike J
Should I be annoyed that the column keeps referring to Mrs Clinton instead of Secretary Clinton?
cain
@Gelfling 545:
That would be sexist and wrong if that were true.
Mnemosyne
At the risk of re-starting the war over whether making an animated film about ancient Polynesians is exploitative by definition, here’s the pop song version of the heroine’s big number, “How Far I’ll Go.”
Seems apropos today.
GrandJury
@redshirt: To think that Cheech and Chong could have done the same thing if they weren’t so far ahead of their time.
Chong even had to do some time in prison for selling bongs. Something that would not be a problem to do now. At least in some states.
Mnemosyne
@Mike J:
Once she wins, she can be addressed as “President Clinton,” “Mrs. Clinton” or “Madam President” — all three are equally correct. They’re just getting a head start on the proper address. ?
Jeffro
@hedgehog mobile:
I hear you…I’ve been taking Election Day (and Day After, some years!) as a sick day ever since 2000. I never get any work done anyway, and it feels great to get out n’ do GOTV activities (plus a couple of errands)
raven
@GrandJury: “you pigs wanna give us push”!!
The Moar You Know
@Mike J: Yes. And you should be far more annoyed when they do it to her after she takes the oath in January.
Roger Moore
@Jeffro:
My personal favorite was Ill Douche.
trollhattan
@Pogonip:
How now, dancing sow?
Shell
Stevie Wonder sums it up nicely. “Voting for Donald Trump is like asking me to drive.”
Albert Z.
For your consideration::: 10 Pitchfork Staffers on Songs that Ease Election Anxiety
debit
@The Moar You Know: As I understand it, the proper way to speak about the President is to address him/her as President Whatever the first time s/he’s referenced, and then after that Mr/Mrs/Ms Whatever.
ETA: and one assumes the same goes for any title.
Eugene in Eugene
@catclub: oh, the carbon-steel knife wasn’t a Wusthof, Henckels, or anything like that. As a matter of fact, it was a pretty cheaply made knife. No bolster, so I’m assuming rolled, not forged, and the whole thing with the handle being loose was because the wooden handle was connected to a metal cowl which was what was actually connected to the partial tang. Still, my parents and I got a good 30+ years out of it.
I'll be Frank
@divF: That’s a demo that loves chronic and thinking dirty thoughts about other people. Looks like a two-fer to me.
raven
Born in East LA (1987) “Jesus esta en Tijuana”
Roger Moore
@Joyce H:
I’m pretty sure having a full-time makeup team would help, also, too.
redshirt
@Shell: I saw an ad from the 70’s for the Atari gaming system with Stevie Wonder saying something like “If I could play video games, I’d play Atari”.
Guess it’s a theme.
West of the Cascades
220 minutes until the first polls close in Indiana and Kentucky!
Eugene in Eugene
@GrandJury: Didn’t Tommy Chong get tripped up on exclusively federal charges? I think those are still in force, even if they wouldn’t necessarily be enforced.
Mike J
@debit: That would be a reasonable rule, but the Times article first refers to her by full name, and from then n as Mrs, never as Secretary or Senator.
Eugene in Eugene
@Roger Moore: Having a full-time makeup team sounds bothersome. I don’t want to have to spend 15 minutes sitting in a chair before I just pop down to the 7-11 to pick up some milk.
Poopyman
@Mike J:
Sen. Obama became President Obama, or alternatively, Mr. Obama. So Mrs. Clinton is an allowable alternative to Madame President, I should think.
ETA: Or yeah, I should at least have read as far as Mnem. Now off to read all the other responses….
They’re just a bit ahead of the inevitable.
Kay
Trump’s already suing in Nevada. I hope Democrats are ready. I’m confident they are- if any Republicans was going to try to get Latino votes excluded it’s Donald Trump.
imonlylurking
My outfit of choice for job interviews is a pantsuit. I don’t have one at the moment and have been dreading the shopping trip to acquire one. I just realized-the stores are going to be FULL of pantsuits! It’s going to be a blast!
Mike J
I don’t wish to tempt the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing, but it is my hope that reading the people Trump follows on Twitter could be amusing tonight.
Here they are in one handy list.
nonynony
@Mnemosyne: What about Ms. Clinton?
debit
@Mike J: Oh, well that is full of crap. Very disrespectful.
Napoleon
Holy Shit – that show is for real!
Aleta
Perhaps mentioned already, but … another funny photo + caption from Kozza :
https://mobile.twitter.com/Kozza/status/796039880602243072/photo/1
Real photo? Sure looks convincing but hard to believe…..
Mikefromarlington
Trump already challenging votes
Cermet
When this election is over, I, and as I hope most here. will drop all mentions of the small handed rump from our posts. We will have our posts full of the various thugs being the cockroaches as they are running about trying to undermine President Hillary.
Mnemosyne
@nonynony:
Last I heard, the style book at the NY Times doesn’t allow for it except upon specific request by the person herself, but other places probably do.
Brachiator
@catclub:
That or being a conductor, who seem to be similarly long lived.
Miss Bianca
I think they make a very dishy couple, personally.
(yeah, pun intended).
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
Did anybody already mention that TPM reports Ill Douche kiddos Eric & Ivanka posted illegal ballot selfies. NY being among the states where that’s prohibited. Laws are for the little people.Trump said “they were unaware of the rule.They feel very guilty.But it’s fine”
Calouste
@Mike J: If the Founding Fathers would have wanted people to keep titles for life, they would have written that into the constitution. They more or less did the opposite.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Mike J
@Calouste: It’s still proper to refer to President Clinton (the first one) or President Bush.
Betty Cracker
@Shell: Florida is in two time zones, though. Stupid panhandle!
Miss Bianca
@cain: It *is* sexist, wrong…and true.
bemused
Gag. Guiliani is on msnbc with Katy Tur. Now there’s a guy I would be very happy to see locked up.
Betty Cracker
@Kay: I take that as a sign he’s…not confident in victory.
Tom
The Rage Cantelope
bemused
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Do these morons trying to keep people from voting think Trump will bail them out if they get arrested?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I’ll look for old and newly elected Senators to come out against him, and Ben Sasse, who wants to ride a horse called NeverTrump to the 2020 convention. I wonder if Paul Ryan is smart enough to understand that Sasse is going to take his place, with his picture taped to the inside of the Village’s lockers. Also, Susannah Martinez and Nikki Haley
MisterForkbeard
@catclub: We (mostly) use Wusthof, and they’re great. Our best knife is a hand-me-down from my wife’s grandmother, and it doesn’t have a brand. I’m assuming she got it from some local guy back in the 30s, but I’ll be damned if the knife isn’t still amazing.
Brachiator
@debit:
I thought that Madam is the other way to address a woman president, as in Madam President, and also Madam Secretary. Don’t know if this is formal or accepted etiquette.
Mrs or Ms President seems a bit clunky.
Also, former presidents are still referred to as Mr President. But this would not work for Bill Clinton, when in the same room with Hillary. “President and Mr President? or President Clinton and Mr President?” I don’t think so.
Social Secretaries and Chiefs of Protocol must be having a good time with this stuff.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Kay: That cracks me up. They are even more idiotic than I thought
MisterForkbeard
@Mikefromarlington: The best part of that is how completely ridiculous it is. They’re suing for the county to retain all records from early voting because the county “broke the law” by staying open until everyone had voted.
Except: The county is already required to keep those records. And the law explicitly states that if you’re in line when the polls close, you get to vote.
So not only is their supposed goal already in place, their reasoning to get that goal is also wrong. Wow.
Cermet
For those who doubt that a Hispanic surge will not occur – from 538. This matters – in fact, a great deal. If Fl falls to Hillary, game over – period.
(Bad mouse!)
FlipYrWhig
@bemused: Giuliani is less “a guy” than “a swarm of bats momentarily organized in a vaguely human silhouette.”
Poopyman
“Failed pumpkin impersonator”
Calouste
@Aleta: Real photo. I saw it on the BBC as well.
Roger Moore
@Kay:
I’m pretty sure the Harry Reid machine knows how to handle this stuff. The latest report from the court is that the judge literally laughed at Trump’s lawyer.
Shell
Martha Stewart also dated Anthony Hopkins for a while. Now theres an interesting pair!
Brachiator
@Calouste:
Supreme Court justices are the exception, right?
GregB
You have to believe that Shrumph has already lost because his side is behaving like losers, flailing wildly and tilting at eindmills in Nevada.
scav
@Kay: Preemptive Whining — such a good look, especially for the manly man, the self-made-man.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Brachiator: Judges and ambassadors?
Peale
@Kay: Perhaps if his campaign spent some time concerned about the way Latino’s would vote in November, they could have done something about that earlier. Like maybe not been so hostile toward them. Or not run an entire campaign around the theme that there were too many of them and that their presence in the country was a mistake and a disaster.
Peale
@scav: I wonder which of the 63 genders we’re going to have when Hillary wins is covered by “whiny assholes.” Is that one of them?
Kay
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
I didn’t look at all the affidavits but so far it’s Trump volunteer poll watchers and a volunteer lawyer from NY. The accounts are just really garbled- they’re all repeating this one part where two voters went up and either were refused or voted? I’m not clear on why these two voters who did or didn’t vote are so central.
Also “Democrat volunteers” – the tell :)
Aleta
@imonlylurking:
ha ha that’s a fun image, and imagining all the mannequins posing in the windows
FlipYrWhig
@Peale: It’s disturbingly close to the majority.
Shell
I think the difference is that those polling places decided earlier to keep open till 10pm, and letting people getting on line after 8 o’clock.
TriassicSands
From the front page of the NY Times at about 11:40 PST:
Quite the contrast. I would imagine that voting for oneself for president would be both strange an humbling.
But with Trump, it’s all about conspiracies and paranoia right up to the end. The photos of both Trump and one of his sons trying to see who their wives are voting for is also in character.
Kay
@Peale:
If I were the judge I would ask them why they didn’t report this to the Secretary of State Monday. Why today? It supposedly happened on the 4th.
Mike J
Mariachi band at Nevada polling place.
WarMunchkin
So many people making calls for Hillary that my phone kept dropping calls in the Manhattan office (I don’t have preferred traffic). I asked if I could do something else and a disheveled coordinator told me to go home cause there were too many people. I guess that means we’re doing good.
Brachiator
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Ambassadors serve at the pleasure of the president.
Amir Khalid
@Brachiator:
I recall that Adam had a go at addressing this. I think he said they would indeed be announced together as “President Clinton and President Clinton”, as odd as it might sound, since (touch wood) they have both earned the title. If you were then to chat with them at some point in the cocktail reception, you’d call him Mr. President and her Madam President.
Having said that, it seems to me that this is not a problem that many American couples can expect to face.
Mnemosyne
@Brachiator:
You can properly address a US president three different ways, in no particular order:
“Madam/Mr. President”
“Mrs./Mr. Lastname”
“President Lastname”
It will be just as proper to address our new president as “Mrs. Clinton” (or “Ms. Clinton”) as it would be to call her “President Clinton.”
It kind of drives me nuts that so many people get this wrong. And, technically, you shouldn’t address someone by an official title they no longer hold, so it drives me nuts whenever people do that.
If you wanted to address an envelope to the (soon to be) First Couple, the Miss Manners way to do it would be “President and Mr. Clinton.”
Barbara
@GregB: This is how they will justify not conceding tonight. By pointing to these individual instances of “suspected” voting irregularities, never mind that the state law is clear, and that the governor of the state is a Republican.
bemused
@FlipYrWhig:
Bats shriveled like prunes. Even when he was younger, I can’t imagine how any woman married him, let alone three (?). Just eeew.
Brachiator
@Mike J:
Banda Los Bad Hombres?
RobertB
@Shell: Martha Stewart has just the recipe for liver and fava beans, paired with a nice Chianti.
TriassicSands
Why am I told I don’t have “permission” to edit my own comment? Is that just FYWP? All i want to do is fix a typo. But noooooooooo…
Percysowner
@Mnemosyne: Would Ms. Clinton be permitted?
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Kay: That’s the tell for sure. Do you know what OH poll the guy who showed up to watch w/o credentials got tossed out of? I got an email about the tweet, but don’t know where.
The location manager here included mute in the lunch order list, and when I asked for the numbers for the 1:45 supply report on the log said “this is fun!” It’s busier than usual here, they tell me.
Loneoak
Thank you, Juicers, for being a bastion of sanity and decency on the internets. And thank you to the management who does the occasional manure shoveling and miscellaneous maintenance. Good job everyone. #pantsuitsforall
schrodinger's cat
@TriassicSands: I have the same problem since the site was “updated”, I can no longer edit my own comments.
Brachiator
@bemused:
He was packing a huge … wallet.
And who knows, he may have been persuasive and even kind (or something close to it) in private.
Aleta
You can watch a Nevada judge stand up to the Trump request for court order, live here (just ended).ETA Well, her strong response to him should show up on their newscast soon I hope.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Mike J:
No. It’s their house style for people not currently in office. They also refer to, for example, “Mr. Gingrich,” not “Speaker Gingrich.”
Kay
@scav:
That’s Trump’s whole life, though. Whining and cheating and threatening and cutting corners and looking for special loopholes that only apply to him. It’s consistent. That he’s constantly suing people is part of that.
When Palin was running I read that she inserted herself into a custody battle to the extent that she alienated the judge and everyone else involved. There are people who do this stuff and people who don’t and the behavior is consistent across the board.
MomSense
Two more hours and then I hit my last GOTV shift. So ready to win this thing!
Mnemosyne
@Percysowner:
Depends on which newspaper you’re writing for — it’s a house style thing. Miss Manners says “yes.”
MomSense
Hundreds of high school kids have walked out of school in Arizona to canvass against Arpaio. They can’t vote but they want to do their part.
JCJ
@Amir Khalid:
It would be nice if the Obamas had to deal with that problem!
ps – Liverpool! w00t!
WaterGirl
I was just at Sam Wang’s site and I am not seeing any prediction about the Illinois senate race, for instance. Why does he show only 7 senate races when I thought there were something like 10 senate seats in play?
Kay
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
The only thing I heard was not to get excited about long lines because there are a lot of candidates and local issues, so each voter is taking longer- hence- lines.
bemused
@Brachiator:
I’m going to try to forget you wrote that last sentence.
It’s not just his looks. It’s his nails on chalkboard personality. Just think of listening to that annoying asshole all day long.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Kay: That is his whole life – plus the part where he makes out great and the vendors get stiffed.
Roger Moore
@Mnemosyne:
Sorry, but people have been doing that for about as long as we’ve had a country. For example, people kept referring to Alexander Hamilton as “General Hamilton” even after he had resigned his commission and gone back into private life.
Mnemosyne
@Kay:
I’m not sure that holds true here in California (and we did have a very long ballot). The line moved well, but the sheer mass of people meant that I was in line for an hour starting at 7:40 am.
I think I’m in the precinct where people have day jobs, because our line was very long and the other two were shorter. Those started filling up closer to 9:00 when my line was almost done.
Percysowner
@Mnemosyne: @Kay: This would have all been avoided if Arkansas hadn’t freaked out that she wanted to keep her name Rodham! Oh, well.
For some levity from Election stories from Not Always right
WereBear
We voted! Mr WereBear wore green, I wore purple.
The Trumpists wore red :)
And, in Casablanca, the Germans wore grey.
Gin & Tonic
@Kay: I watched the closing of that, um, hearing? I’m not a lawyer and have never been in court, but to these uneducated eyes/ears, the judge pulled the Trump lawyer’s pants down around his ankles, spanked him repeatedly and then laughed in his face.
Iowa Old Lady
@MisterForkbeard: I can only assume Trump has never stood in line to vote. Every election, I see reports of polls staying open until everyone in line has voted. If you didn’t have that option, you could really choke off votes by limiting polling places and then sending away everyone who didn’t squeeze in.
scav
@Kay: We need to brand them collectively with their own actions and attitude. Tattoo it firmly onto their foreheads like that idiot in Peoria.
Gin & Tonic
@WereBear: I thought pretty much everybody wore grey in that movie.
Eugene in Eugene
@Percysowner: only if you’re nasty.
Brachiator
@Mnemosyne:
I didn’t get this wrong. Mrs Clinton is standard. Most newspaper style guides would use this, especially the NY Times. But I don’t know that any convention has yet settled on commonly using Ms. In the long run, I think any gender distinction is as old fashioned as a distinction meant to make marital status neutral.
It is a common courtesy to refer to presidents and other government officials by their former titles. I’m not sure where your view of “technically” comes into it. Some of this may have been a holdover from referring to retired military officers by their former rank, but it is a longstanding social tradition.
If they received an invitation right now, could it be reasonably addressed to “President and Mrs Clinton?”
ETA: I notice that the Guardian and some other news sites refer to Angela Merkel or Theresa May by their title or their name, but typically omit Mrs or Ms.
Eugene in Eugene
@Mnemosyne:
Would you mind telling the fine folks at USAA that?
WarMunchkin
There’s a hilarious picture of Trump peeking at Melania’s ballot. I mean if he’s that unsure…
Besides, she probably just copied Michelle Obama’s ballot.
Roger Moore
@WaterGirl:
If you look in the right hand column of the website there’s a “The Power of One Vote” section, where you can select either the Presidential or Senate races. If you select Senate, he gives about 15 races; Illinois is rated low because Duckworth has an 11 point advantage.
Origuy
In odd election news, my friends who live in San Mateo County (between San Francisco and San Jose) have a line on their ballot for Harbor Master. It makes it sound like it’s Portsmouth or Long Beach, some big harbor with ships coming and going. But apparently the Harbor Master is the person in charge of a couple of marinas on San Francisco Bay. I don’t know why this is an elected position.
WarMunchkin
@Percysowner: I heard it’s permissible to call her President Rodhammer if she wins by at least 7.
Peale
@Brachiator: But just to be clear, Colonel Sanders was properly addressed as Colonel.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Kay: Twitter:
Brachiator
@bemused:
That’s OK. I was half joking. After all the tension of the election season, I have voted, and am relaxed as we get ready for the results.
Miss Bianca
@FlipYrWhig: SOL (that would be “Snort Out Loud”)
But seriously, what have you got against bats?
Mnemosyne
@Roger Moore:
Military titles are slightly different than elected titles since you retire with a specific title. George Washington was known as “General Washington” after he left politics, not “President Washington.”
Redshift
@WaterGirl: The Illinois Senate race isn’t in play. RCP poll average has Duckworth up by 13.
trollhattan
@Shell:
I’ll take “Dishes that go with Chianti” for a thousand, Alex.
Gindy51
@Eugene in Eugene: USMCR hubby gets called Colonel every time he talks to them. He loves it since at home I am the General…
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Jason Sanford on Twitter. Link may DID fail again; FYWP
Miss Bianca
@Mike J: But is there a taco truck?! (seriously, that is awesome).
I seem to be using the word “seriously” a lot lately. Seriously.
David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch
BWHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
David Gergen just said on CNN, “the big sleeper story is the Latino vote, nobody saw this coming”.
AHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHA
This IS CNN
Gindy51
@WarMunchkin: His son did the same thing to his wife!
geg6
I’m recording this show. I can’t help it. It’s irresistible. I plan to binge watch it over the Thanksgiving break.
Jeff Spender
Nevada Judge laughed Trump out of court. Trump’s request denied.
Who coulda sawed that comin’?
Mnemosyne
@Eugene in Eugene:
You actually do get to keep your military title if you want.
@Brachiator:
Lots of people do things that are incorrect. Apostrophe use. Saying “could care less.” The fact that something is widely done does not make it correct.
bemused
@Brachiator:
I felt great, even giddy, after I voted this morning, light as air. After looking forward to voting for so long and finally voting, it was like throwing off a heavy load that I’d been carrying around forever. I’m sure everyone who has voted feels the same way.
Miss Bianca
@David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch: “Nobody saw this coming”?! Hellooo, CNN, are you finally taking calls from Univision?
WaterGirl
@Roger Moore: Okay, I will go look for that. But what is different about the 7 races he has in his chart?
WereBear
@Gin & Tonic: Excellent point. Casablanca is one of those movies which easily triggers quoting.
Eugene in Eugene
I thought that after he had been elected to the House, John Quincy Adams was referred to as “Mr. President.”
Roger Moore
@Origuy:
For the same reason some places still elect their coroner: it used to be a much more important position, and they just haven’t bothered to change the rules and make it appointed.
Punchy
@Peale: Generally, in public Colonel Sanders acted more like a Captain. However, in Private, he was a Major asshole, someone who advocated for Corporal punishment. So Petty.
Felonius Monk
I voted around 1:30 PM ET. I was the only one voting at that particular time. Nobody in front of me and nobody behind me.
Lizzy L
@David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch: Srsly? WTF planet does David Gergen live on? Oh, wait. It’s David Gergen: a man who has not ventured west of the Appalachians for 20 years.
dance around in your bones
@Albert Z.: These songs are brilliant. Thank you!
(and thank you, Pitchfork staffers!)
WereBear
@Lizzy L: I LOL’d. No, they never see anything coming, because they never look.
bemused
@Jeff Spender:
If Trump’s lawyers have any sense at all, they will get their paychecks up front from the chiseler before they agree to do the work and look like idiots in court.
Kay
@Jeff Spender:
It’s really inexplicable to not talk to the Secretary of State. The election official. Who has plenty of lawyers and can tell you anything you want to know about state law and rules. Anyone can just call them.
Iowa Old Lady
@David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch: Was he also surprised that women were voting?
PST
@Mnemosyne: And, technically, you shouldn’t address someone by an official title they no longer hold, so it drives me nuts whenever people do that.
Peale
@Kay: Maybe the SoS decided to take the day off. Spend the day relaxing in Lake Tahoe or take the family to the Grand Canyon. You never know. She or He might have had a personal days to burn under the state’s “use it or lose it” policy.
Roger Moore
@WaterGirl:
They’re actually close enough to be in serious doubt. The rest have one party with a minimum of a 6% lead, which is far enough out of hand that they can be treated as a 100% chance for the party in the lead when figuring the likely final configuration of the Senate.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Miss Bianca:
One friend and I found ourselves using literally (both literally and humorously) all the time and had to make a pact to stop ourselves from doing it.
Redshift
@Roger Moore: Yeah, I believe his cutoff for competitiveness for states in the presidential race and for other contests is five percent or less.
Kay
@Peale:
and what’s with the suit the Trump lawyer is wearing? Shiny! :)
One of the oddest things about Donald Trump is he looks WORSE than he could look. He could have normal hair and no fake tan and he could wear suits that fit. It’s so much effort and he looks worse! I bet no one can tell him because he’s such a big spoiled baby.
Redshift
There’s a very loud flock of crows in the tree across the street from my house.
What does this mean?
Punchy
From this article….
That number. Again. Forever. Amazing.
aarrgghh
“Full Frontal’s Official Trump Thesaurus” (Full Frontal with Samantha Bee)
debit
@Redshift: I’m sorry. Looks like you have a murder tree.
Lizzy L
@Redshift: It’s the apocalypse. We’re all doomed. Have a nice day.
catclub
@Iowa Old Lady:
and if that is what happened then Trump has no case.
But if voters who were not in line at the scheduled closing time were allowed to vote, then Trump has a case, unless all voting sites did the same thing. [ Why anyone who wants to vote should be turned away is a question for another day.]
As to maintaining records, there might not be records that distinguish when votes were cast relative to the closing time.
Brachiator
@bemused:
Kinda like Scrooge the Morning after the Ghosts.
Roger Moore
@Redshift:
My guess is it’s more based on a percent chance of one party winning. He’s basing his probabilities on a size of lead and standard error so that, for example, he give McGinty (2% +/- 0.5%) a better chance of winning than Cortez Masto (2% +/- 1.1%). The exact cutoff probably doesn’t matter, since all the races not in that table are solidly one way or the other. The one potential oddball is Louisiana, where there’s supposed to be a small chance the Republicans will split the vote enough ways for two Democrats will make it into the runoff.
gwangung
@Kay: But so characteristic of the Trump team.
catclub
@PST: There was a time when almost any (male, yeah, I know) sports coach in the south was called “Colonel”
or Kernel.
Roger Moore
@Redshift:
You’re lucky it isn’t an even louder flock of parrots. HTH.
ETA: Or possibly that Flock of Seagulls couldn’t make the gig.
Aleta
@catclub: It’s been mentioned somewhere that the Nevada rules for early voting lines are different than for election day voting lines, and that the Trump lawyer did not seem to know this. Was informed by the judge, who then denied him. He also petitioned her to release to him the names of poll workers, which she absolutely refused to do.
catclub
@Roger Moore:
We live in hope. That would be hilarious. I wonder how fast they repeal the law if it happens.
PST
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): I’m watching in Ohio now. You need credentials to watch from inside the polling place, and to be credentialed you must be a resident. I’m an outside observer, which is claims cold, damp work this afternoon.
catclub
@Redshift:
Is your real name Tippi?
Mike J
@Redshift: Usually it means there’s an eagle, hawk, or owl nearby.
Kelly
Thanks to everyone for your commentary during the weirdest election year of my life. I’ve lurked here since sometime soon after Cole abandoned the Republicans. Seldom have much to add. Learn things regularly. I’m of for a nice walk in Cascade foothills past some waterfalls. It’s an unseasonably warm blue sky day here in the Willamette valley. May find a few chanterelles for dinner. I’ll be looking in this evening whilst the results roll in.
FlipYrWhig
@Kay: From the Trump-Dr. Oz interview:
Mary G
This comment on Scalzi’s blog cracked me up:
Brachiator
@Mnemosyne:
Correct/incorrect are too hard to apply to etiquette and much social convention, which changes rapidly. What are the proper emoji to use for the president?
Actually, with respect to language, particularly English, wide usage tends to make it correct over time.
For example, most supermarkets have a line for, say, “8 items or less.” Should be “8 items or fewer.” Attempts to correct this are futile.
Jeffro
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: And Brian Sandoval too
dmsilev
@Redshift:
Was it a flock, or was it ….murder?
catclub
@WarMunchkin:
Amazing porn name. Huge.
Roger Moore
@catclub:
As I understand it, they have a jungle primary; everyone gets tossed in one pool, and the top two get into the runoff. In that kind of election, it pays to have exactly two candidates from your party running. Fewer and the other party is guaranteed to get a candidate into the runoff; more and you risk splitting the vote and letting the other party in. The Democrats have managed to limit themselves to two real candidates, while the Republicans have 5. There’s a real chance the Republicans will manage to screw themselves, either by letting the two Democrats into the runoff or by picking somebody unelectable as their candidate.
Frankensteinbeck
@Barbara:
And no one will care, and the transfer of power will continue as if he had conceded. I actually think he’ll concede, and it will be two sentences of pre-prepared graciousness followed by vomiting bile.
catclub
@Brachiator: I learned something about that. “Normalcy” was coined by Woodrow Wilson as a mis-statement of “normality”. He was only a college professor and President of Princeton U.
Gelfling 545
@scav: My knives are Cutco whose factory is a couple of hours from where I live. They will take them back for sharpening any time for only postage costs and will repair or replace forever. I would save my Cutco chef’s knife if the house were on fire.
gogol's wife
@Albert Z.:
That’s the best “Duetto buffo di due gatti” I’ve ever heard!
Roger Moore
@Brachiator:
If you really want to nitpick, it should probably be “8 or fewer items”.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@PST: I’m nice and warm, because I have credentials. The location manager even offered to move the table where she installed me away from the window where it’s chilly. That’s probably not very nice of me to tell you, since you’re out in the cold. Thanks for coming to OH and working in cold rain.
Litlebritdifrnt
Oh BTW there is a new live feed of the Susan B. Anthony site and people are still streaming by.
https://www.facebook.com/News8WROC/videos/10155359894014386/?hc_location=ufi
Mnemosyne
@Brachiator:
Interestingly, the Pavilions that’s on my commute home just re-signed everything (and moved things around, goddamnit) and those lanes now say “10 Items or Fewer.” Big Grammar must have gotten to them!
aarrgghh
trump’s concession speech will be a one hour infomercial for trump tv which he’ll sign off with:
“crooked hillary won — period. ok? i said it. goodnight.”
Roger Moore
@catclub:
Are you sure about that? I thought it was coined by Warren Harding, who used it in his campaign to suggest how much people hated life under Wilson, e.g. incredibly restrictive wartime economics, Red Summer, etc. Also, too, Wikipedia claims it was actually found in dictionaries going back to the mid 19th century.
Brachiator
@Peale:
And he was a 5 finger licking colonel.
ETA: I thought it was some self-applied title, but it turns out that Sanders was commissioned as a Kentucky Colonel in 1935.
I suppose that during a state of war, Sanders could lead some chickenshit operation.
Tarragon
@Redshift:
Murder
Cermet
The title “Colonel” was something anyone in the South, many years ago, could adopt and add to their name; many such “colonels’ where created in that manner – see KFC (and post before me: lol.) It does not necessarily mean anything. For Officers, the tradition is that Full Colonels and above in military rank can keep their titles upon retirement.
Bill E Pilgrim
In the voting booth today it said “8 items or Führer.”
Brachiator
@Mnemosyne:
I noticed this at my local Vons/Pavillions as well. So far, the only place I’ve ever noticed it used correctly.
PST
@catclub: @PST: There was a time when almost any (male, yeah, I know) sports coach in the south was called “Colonel” or Kernel.
Bill E Pilgrim
@Roger Moore: I thought normalcy was 261.6 Hz
Oh that’s middle C
Original Lee
@Aleta: I can hardly wait. I need a couple of new pantsuits.
Brachiator
@catclub:
Funny. You often hear about an “abnormality,” but not often a “normality.” And yeah, you do read and hear “normalcy.”
I prefer Hi-C to normalcy, myself.
WereBear
We have another couple over tonight, the same close friends we celebrated President Obama with in 2008. Now, I have a big bottle of champagne, but if we are all to polish it off and still go to work in the morning, I hope we can see victory coming a long ways away.
Bill E Pilgrim
@Brachiator: Beat you to it
bemused
@Brachiator:
I was thinking of a very old tv cartoon dog that would float up in the air when happy but I don’t think it was Muttley or Snuffles.
JCJ
@dmsilev:
Well done! I can just hear the dramatic intonation in your voice!
PST
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): If your real name is Lauren, please bring me out one of these donuts.
scav
@Brachiator: Stephen Fry is a Kentucky Colonel. So, apparently, was Muhammed Ali, but I think I’ll still follow Col. Fry into any battle, rather than Col. Deep-fried.
Other odd detail. Using only about two or three marriages and a very extended family, I can connect Obama to the Deep-fried one.
Brachiator
@Cermet:
I was going to ask “what’s a half a colonel.”
But quickly found:
And of course, one ear of corn contains roughly 800 kernels.
aarrgghh
@bemused:
definitely snuffles, via quick draw mcgraw.
Brachiator
@bemused:
Definitely Snuffles.
ETA: @aarrgghh
Great minds thinking alike.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@PST: If it were, I would.
Poopyman
@WereBear:
Make America grape again!
dance around in your bones
@Redshift: At least it isn’t a flock of seagulls (Pulp Fiction style)
BillinGlendaleCA
@Roger Moore: Now you’ve done and gone and brought up the “H” word.
Brachiator
@Bill E Pilgrim:
Yes, you did!
Even though I was thinking of the fruit drink Hi-C.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Mnemosyne: I’m hoping that people were just trying to beat the heat, I’m getting ready to head out in a few minutes and it’s 96 degrees outside the cave(I’ll be taking a bottle of water with me).
The NYT refers to everyone as Mr. and Mrs., though they’ll generally say President Obama in the first reference and after that say Mr. Obama. IIRC, the Economist always just says Mr. or Mrs.
Bobby D
@Eugene in Eugene: That was my preference, until they came out with the Wusthof Classic Ikon series. Same knives, just a slightly more ergonomic handle. The regular classic handles were pretty squared off at/around the edges of the handle, the ikon classic has a nicely rounded handle. Best feeling knife I own, and I started replacing my older wusthof classics with the ikons. I really only use 3 of them regularly, the 3″ and 4″ paring knives and the 7″ santoku. The chef’s comes out occasionally for heavy/bone laden cuts. Sets of knives is a waste of money for most people. I got by for 20 years with nothing more than a 4″ utility knife and a shorty 6″ chef’s, one cast iron skillet and one 2qt pot w/lid.
Mike J
@Brachiator: Cabinet secretaries (current and former) are given the same military courtesy as a 4 star. link
Roger Moore
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Sorry. It was the only way I thought I could get Mnem to pay attention.
catclub
@Roger Moore: You are probably right. I really only caught that it was around 1920.
GregB
It seems Boo Radley Assange must be realizing that he shit-canned hus credibility by pulling for Trump and is now trying to salvage his credibility from the dumpster.
Sorry Jules. There’s no unfucking that chicken.
The Lodger
@Brachiator: And, of course, five-sevenths of a colonel is a colon.
Happy to help.
MisterForkbeard
@GregHow do you mean? Is he trying to walk things back?
Brachiator
@BillinGlendaleCA: BTW, I saw your great photo of the Bradbury Building earlier.
Is the Million Dollar Theater still across the street? Great photos there as well.
Love the Bradbury. Used in a couple of the greatest science fiction works of all time, the movie Blade Runner and the Outer Limits episode, “Demon with a Glass Hand.”
I think the Million Dollar Theater appears in Blade Runner as well.
aarrgghh
@brachiator:
or at least 70s-cartoon-addled, if not great …
bemused senior
@Origuy: it is for Half Moon Bay, which is on the San Mateo Pacific coastline.
Jacel
@redshirt: An early SNL parody commercial had Wonder using some brand of camera.
GrandJury
@MisterForkbeard:
This might have something to do with it. Sounds to me like the Ecuadorian embassy is getting fed up with him.
Assange to be questioned over rape charges.
Jacel
@imonlylurking: There will also be trucks selling pantsuits on every corner.
Jacel
@Mnemosyne: My wife and I went to our California polling place at 2:00, figuring it to be a relative dead time. It was reported slower then, but there were lots of people there for all three precincts that vote at that school, more than I’ve seen in a typical election’s morning or evening. We generally use voting machines involving a dial, a system that seems rather well designed for usability and accountability. However, there were already people using the machines assigned to our precinct, so we were given paper ballots to fill out immediately rather than wait for a machine to be available.
Jacel
@Origuy: San Mateo County operates two marinas — one on the coast and one on the bay. I’ve become accustomed to the Harbor Master and the board members being on the ballot. The local Sierra Club makes a point of recommending candidates for those offices.
BruceJ
@sharculese: I cannot wait for the ‘Brownies’ episode!