No interaction between Trump & HRC. Hillary did do an arm-touch quick word as she passed Melanoma.
The emcee got off a great first joke:
“Before we began, I understand that Donald went up to Hillary and asked her how she was doing. Hillary said ‘I’m fine, Donald–now get out of the ladies’ dressing room.'”
Adam, any deets on RSA withdrawing from Rome statute at ICC? Or should I just go google it?
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NotMax
The Happy Warrior.
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NR
Biggest poll news of today: WMUR has Hassan up by 8 over Ayotte in New Hampshire. If that’s accurate, it greatly increases the chances of a Dem Senate.
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hitchhiker
I only know what this is because of The West Wing.
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JPL
“Tonight, we are all friends. How do you like those apples?” says Al Smith IV at dinner.
Al Smith tells Trump, “you’re not in a locker room. So please watch your language.”
@NR: Gosh, this all seems to be working out, doesn’t it?
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Adam L Silverman
@Mike J: They didn’t withdraw, the African National Conference has called for the Republic of South Africa to do so however. And they made the call a year ago in OCT 2011: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34509342
What South Africa leaving the International Criminal Court would mean
By Milton Nkosi
BBC News, Johannesburg
14 October 2015
The call by South Africa’s governing party to withdraw from the International Criminal Court (ICC) has implications for the rest of the continent. But it is not going to happen any time soon.
When South Africa joined the ICC in 1998 the country had just emerged from the scourge of apartheid.
South Africans were fresh victims of gross human rights violations and had hoped that the rest of the world would join the ICC.
But some of the most powerful countries did not follow.
And now the governing African National Congress (ANC) is calling for the country to leave the ICC – which would make it the first to do so…
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JMG
@NR: UNH pollster Andy Smith is one of the worst in the business. Had Coakley over Brown by 15 a week before that election. Went from Obama up 15 over Romney to tied in two weeks. Don’t believe a single point in that survey. Doesn’t mean it can’t happen, blind pig, acorn, etc. but don’t trust those numbers. He stinks.
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NR
@redshirt: We can’t be sure of anything until November 9th.
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dogwood
It’s nights like this when every termed out President and every former candidate thinks “Thank God I don’t have to attend that shindig .”
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NR
@JMG: That’s too bad. I think NH is close to being a must-win if we want a Dem Senate.
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some guy
the International Criminal Court to Prosecute Africans for War Crimes might be losing a member? Does that mean fewer Africans will be prosecuted by the International Criminal Court to Prosecute African War CCrimes?
@NR: Great news indeed!! I’d love to see the spineless Ayotte booted out of the Senate. Hope voters make it so. Ironic that she has pledged to vote for (but not endorse) a man who has cost her her Senate seat.
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NR
@Patricia Kayden: I think she’s currently pledging to write in Pence. Unless she flipped back to Trump again and I haven’t heard about it.
@NR: It’ll be close. Doesn’t mean Hassan doesn’t win. But it’ll be close.
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Uncle Cosmo
@NR: Unreliable poll from unreliable pollster. So? Resist the urge to clutch pearls & just ignore it. Every Democratic candidate should be campaigning like s/he’s 10 points down anyway, if only to run up the score. Leave it all on the field. Stomp the barstids as flat as possible.
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Adam L Silverman
@Mike J: okay – there is absolutely no news coverage. Nada. Not BBC. Not NY Times. Nothing. So I don’t know what to say because I can’t substantiate the document with sources other than the twitter feed of someone I’ve never heard of.
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dogwood
@NR:
I think you’re right. We aren’t even sure about holding on to Harry Reid’s seat. The problem with NH is that there is probably at decent number of republican leaning independents who will vote Hillary and Ayotte. And there just isn’t an untapped population of minorities to register and get to the polls to counteract that.
I was at the Smith dinner when R. Reagan and J. Carter were there; that is the night Reagan, almost in a predatory fashion, listened to Carter’s weak remarks and low energy jokes, watched him closely and decided that Carter was weak enough to be beaten; Reagan from that night forward was in overdrive.
@Lee: Ancient history to anyone who knows anything about nuclear issues. Nothing classified in that at all.
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Gin & Tonic
@Adam L Silverman: HRC said something about a 4-minute window for launching nukes, and the wingnuts are acting like she’s Ethel Rosenberg.
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germy
@Adam L Silverman: Herr drumpf demanded HRC “resign” because she revealed nuclear secrets (four minutes!)
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Adam L Silverman
@Lee: @Gin & Tonic: I’m clearly missing something. Is this from a presser she did today or something else? Some context would be great.
Semibreak
@Gin & Tonic: I’ll have a Maskirovka Slips III tomorrow. Esquire did an excellent deep dive into the Russian hacks and meddling into the election. I’ll be linking to it and excerpting it as well to set up the piece.
I know it’s John Williams, but Jesus crap that NBC theme music gets really old really fast on a constant loop.
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West of the Rockies (been a while)
Does anyone here troll RWNJ sites and poop on the threads? I’m just wondering what compels a sad little man to do such a thing. Antisocial Personality Disorder? Masochistic tendencies? Mommy didn’t pay attention to you when you thought you were cute and clever? I just don’t get it.
I can imagine trying to employ social intelligence, logic, a genuine desire to understand those with different views, but to just walk into an elevator, fart and giggle is weird to me.
@Jim Riley: That won’t be Hillary’s problem. She’s visiting and mingling while the Trumps are waiting and waiting for someone to kiss their rings. Unfortunately for them, the paid servants are not there tonight.
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Gin & Tonic
@Adam L Silverman: I saw references to the Esquire piece in some infosec-related Twitters I follow, but was too busy today to read it.
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Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: @Lee: I watched the debate and did not hear that at all. I thought he was demanding she resign her candidacy because Donna Brazile notified both her campaign and the Sanders’ campaign that the death penalty would be a topic at one of the primary town halls. At this point I can’t keep straight what he’s upset about. That said I’m sure Congressman Chaffetz, who actually has divulged classified information on live TV, will be convening hearings about it. And going on TV for several days, every channel, to do his last honorable man in high dudgeon schtick.
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Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: Its excellent. I highly recommend it.
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Gin & Tonic
Looks like Trump’s September FEC report has dropped.
@Gin & Tonic: really, this is how its going to be?
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germy
Sean Hannity: Hillary Clinton’s “Ineligibility” To Run For President Could Make Her An “Illegitimate President”
Hannity: “If Hillary Clinton Wins This Election … You Could Make A Case That Because Of Her Ineligibility … We’re Going To Talk About The Legitimacy Of The Presidency”
Tharru
@VoxRomani
Hillary dropped, on live #debatenight, Response time between presidential order and nuclear missile launch. Info isis classified TS/NC2.
@Adam L Silverman: In the debate last night Hillary said the military has about 4 minutes from when the CiC orders nukes to be launched till they are launched; the wingnuts are acting like Hillary spilled a state secret by saying this.
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a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Trentrunner: Call me a pedant or a scold, but I think it belittles us to call (the current) Mrs. Trump names, and it’s a tad mocking of folks with actual cancer issues.
@Trentrunner: ETA: What an amazing opening joke. Which I’m certain the GOP candidate received with gracious good humor. Sorry, I had a flight of fancy there. Of course he’s incapable of that.
HILLARY CLINTON
I find it — ironic that he is raising nuclear weapons. This is a person who has been very cavalier, even casual about the use of nuclear weapons. He’s advocated more countries getting them
DONALD TRUMP
Wrong.
HILLARY CLINTON
.. Japan, Korea, even Saudi Arabia. He said, well if we had them why don’t we use them? Which I think is terrifying. But here’s the deal: the bottom line on nuclear weapons is that when the president gives the order, it must be followed. There is about four minutes between the order being given and the people responsible for launching nuclear weapons to do so. And that is why ten people who have had that awesome responsibility have come out in an unprecedented way said they would not trust Donald Trump with the nuclear codes or to have his finger on the nuclear button.
Quote from debate transcript.
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Jean
@Adam L Silverman: @Adam L Silverman: Clinton talked about the 4 minutes to launch nuclear weapons DURING the debate. She was leveling her charge that Trump’s temperament should keep him away from nuclear codes.
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TS
Seems to be few people talking to the GOP nominee He has a large back presented to him as the Cardinal talks non stop to Hillary
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Jean
@waysel: Oh yeah, that’s right. Main part was Trump’s cavalier attitude toward using nuclear weapons and what countries should have them.
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Gin & Tonic
This is from a UN Institute for Disarmament Research report from 2012 publicly available on the Web:
Of the ICBMforce, nearly all (98%) of the 450 missiles are on high alert at any given time, capable of launching within five minutes of the president issuing the launch codes.
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NonyNony
@Jean: Wait – is the four minute thing supposed to be a secret? I thought that was common knowledge.
@waysel: @Jean: He was trying to interrupt her and wound up speaking over her, so that’s why I missed it. Once I saw the transcript you all posted/pointed me to, I recall the transaction.
Admittedly I am fast-forwarding like crazy, but so far I’ve only seen Trump speak to the cardinal and the guy to Melania’s left, except for Ghouliani stopping over. Hillary is having apparently deep conversations with a bunch of people. Meanwhile Donald keeps showing some piece of paper to Melania, and sitting there like a slug.
Boo hoo he doesn’t seem very popular at this prom…
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Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: Sure. Right now he’s bombing terribly. I just wish the guy to his left would move his head so the camera will zoom back in on the head that Maria Bartiromo’s chest decided to bring to the event.
Honestly, I was wondering why srv keeps mucking about here. He makes me wonder what the reward is to he told, “Shut the Fuck up, Donnie!” over and over.
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Adam L Silverman
He’s losing it. The looks on everyone’s faces are like in a hostage video. And we’ve hit the Steve Bannon portion of the routine.
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SiubhanDuinne
Hillary is not amused.
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Baud
Hillary will cut him.
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Corner Stone
Fuck me. Whoever wrote this second half needs to be run out of the business. This is awful stuff.
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Hal
I just saw a clip and Trump and Melania’s faces. This is the last place they want to be.
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muddy
I just caught up to Trump starting and I see by the comments I need to go on with the FF.
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Baud
@Corner Stone: Right. It started out ok. This is horribly sad.
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Adam L Silverman
Cardinal Dolan is not happy!
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the Conster, la Citoyenne
Cardinal Dolan is not amused.
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Corner Stone
This is ugly shit.
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Jeffro
How bad do you have to suck to get booed at the Al Smith dinner?
Worse yet, how bad do you have to get to have the whole room get silent??
UH OH…”pretending not to hate Catholics”…pure Bannon…
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MomSense
He’s being such a dick. Wow. I’m embarrassed for him.
The the guy to the right of drumph on screen looks like he’s about to blow a gasket.
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Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: I think he leaned in to Clinton and told her not to respond and just do her prepared remarks.
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gogol's wife
Why? What is he saying that’s so bad?
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psycholinguist
I love the people behind him gasping in horror, and then eventually just looking pissed off
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debit
What the hell is he rambling about now? Oh thank god, he’s done.
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amygdala
Never gon’ be President now
Never gon’ be President now
Never gon’ be President now
Never gon’ be President now
That’s one less thing to worry about
That’s one less thing to worry about
Does anyone know the people in the background? On the left of the screen, the one with 3 pins on his suit? On his back, the one with the red revealing dress?
While we can only speculate about what Trump would have said about Smith, we have a pretty good idea of what his father thought of him. The delightful Fred Trump was arrested during a Ku Klux Klan rally in Queens in 1927 when he and some hooded gentlemen of his acquaintance wished to make it known that they considered power and privilege to be reserved for Protestants only. It was bad enough that New York had elected a Catholic governor and that Board of Aldermen was filled with Catholics and Jews. But the newspapers were saying that Smith might be nominated for president the following year. And this was too much for the bigots.
As they did whatever it is that Klansmen do when they gather in solidarity, they also circulated fliers lamenting that “Liberty and Democracy have been trampled upon when native-born Protestant Americans dare to organize to protect one flag, the American flag; one school, the public school; and one language, the English language.” The flier was recitation of grievances sounding very much like the sort of thing you will hear on cable programs hosted, sadly, by men named O’Reilly and Hannity, or lines delivered at a Trump rally as a new generation of embattled true Americans fights off another influx of foreigners.
Smith had an answer for this kind of aggression: Himself. He said his rosaries and marched in the St. Patrick’s Day parade and refused to soften his hard city edges. But he was as much a patriot as his native-born critics. More so, in fact, because he told scowling men and women that their loathing of people like him was a violation of the nation’s ideals. At a hostile venue in Oklahoma in 1928, in a speech that was broadcast around the country on radio, Smith declared that such hatred was un-American.
“I, as the candidate of the Democratic Party, owe it to the people of this country to discuss frankly and opening with them this attempt … to inject bigotry, hatred, intolerance and un-American sectarian division into a campaign which should be an intelligent debate of the important issues which confront the American people,” he said.
In the distance but within his line of sight, Klansman in hoods and sheets burned crosses to remind him that would not make many converts that night.
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Jeffro
“Donald looks at the Statue of Liberty, and…” OUCH
Maria Bartilomo or something like that. She moderated one of the Republican primary debates.
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Corner Stone
Oh fuck. Russian.
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psycholinguist
Poor malania doesn’t understand the “a good number for a woman would be 45” she just looked out into space in her vacuous way.
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the Conster, la Citoyenne
HILLARY IS KILLING THE GOP SOFTLY
ETA: AND THE MEDIA
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Adam L Silverman
@opiejeanne: I have no idea. He’s been denying for years that his father was arrested at that demonstration despite their being a 80 some odd year old police report with his father’s name and their home address on it.
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a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@amygdala: OT: I saw the vanity plate APHASIA in the garage below the psych and neurology departments of a university docs’ office. It’s not always there, but it was today when I went to talk to 4th residents about things to think about before talking to counsel about an employment contract.
I think a transient bout would have served the short fingered vulgarian well tonight. Last night too, come to think of it.
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Jeffro
“…translating from the original Russian…” DOUBLE OUCH
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WarMunchkin
I’m going to pretend she almost said German
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SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
Ooh burn, “even harder when you’re translating from the original Russian!”
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debit
BURN.
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Baud
Hahahaha. Billionaire.
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the Conster, la Citoyenne
RUDY IS NOT AMUSED
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Baud
Rudy ain’t laughing.
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SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
“This counts as a press conference, right?” Love it!
Honestly, I was wondering why srv keeps mucking about here.
He’s a troll. Most trolls live purely for the reaction. That’s where the term “troll” comes from – it’s originally from the fishing term, not the monsters that live under bridges. He throws his net into the water and drags it around trying to catch an innocent commenter and get a reaction – trolling for anger basically. Any reaction is good – for trolls the amusement value lies in provoking a response. The best response is irritation or anger, but mockery can be fine. Because the troll is getting the “look at me! look at me!” response that feeds his underdeveloped ego. If mommy and daddy had hugged him more as a child maybe he’d be less willing to debase himself on the internet going lower and lower in his attempts to provoke an angry response from a stranger.
I knew some Usenet trolls back in the day when I was in college. Personally in meatspace, not online. They were like that in real life too – the kind of guys who would say or do something mean as a “joke” just to provoke a reaction out of the people around them. It mostly seemed that they wanted attention but didn’t know how to get good attention so they “settled” for people telling them to “shut the fuck up”. It may be hate, but at least someone is talking to you and its better than being lonely. And occasionally someone would laugh at whatever stupid thing they said and it made them feel good.
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the Conster, la Citoyenne
HILLARY IS GOING ALL THE WAY WITH IT. GO HILLARY GOOOOO!!!!!!!
“Donald has issues. Really, really serious issues.”
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Mary G
Hit him again, Hillary! Harder! Harder!
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debbie
The Guardian isn’t amused either:
Speaking at the Alfred Smith memorial dinner at the Waldorf Astoria in New York City, former secretary of state and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton follows a deeply un-funny set by Donald Trump.
Oh, curses. When will I ever learn to read the comments before commenting myself?
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Jeffro
Ye gods, these two…no false equivalence here, he’s slime and she’s clearly been put here on earth to DEFEAT SLIME, but…if I’m feeling nostalgic for McCain and Obama (and there really wasn’t any love lost there)…holy cow…
@Baud: Ohhhh! Thanks. That should have been obvious but I kept thinking of it relating to age.
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the Conster, la Citoyenne
Hillary is feeling it. Hillary’s got everyone’s number, remembers everything, understands the entire Washington/media complex and their feels, and has learned from the master President Black Ninja. SHE’S GOT THIS.
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a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Adam L Silverman: This is a surprise? Isn’t he about half past dead by now?
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: That’s a crucial element to all this. Hillary has always been smart, dedicated, compassionate, etc. But I think it’s by running against, then working with, then having the support of one Barack Hussein Obama which has taken her to the next level.
Yes. She shed her Bill Clinton/90s scandal skin, Obama trusted and empowered her, she learned from the master and is now her own best version of her. You can see it!
Already identified by others as Maria Bartiromo, but I wanted to note that she was following the longstanding etiquette rule that the lower the neckline, the longer the gloves.
I really enjoyed watching maltese cross guy stifle his laughter during Clinton’s bit.
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Ian
@West of the Rockies (been a while):
I used to do that at redstate, but that was when I was younger and could get my giggles about being a jerk to people. Wait.. do the commentators at redstate count as people?
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leeleeFL
@opiejeanne: over a year ago I told a table I was waiting on to stop talking about Trump and he would go away, because he was a fame junkie. I knew all about the Donald from my New York life. So I knew this was not only possible but very likely.
Peter Thiel’s support of Donald Trump has been the subject of speculation and condemnation since rumors of his speech at the Republican National Convention first began to fly, and has only increased since Thiel agreed to donate $1.25 million to the Trump campaign.
Yes indeed. I’d like to know whether Thiel gets off on like, setting fire to big piles of money as a hobby. That’s about how much utility he’ll derive from his 1.25 mil investment.
Yeah, who’s the maltese cross guy? or at least, what’s the maltese cross decoration? Looks like serious stuff. And how did he get picked to be on camera for the entire set of speeches? Nice reactions, though – clearly NOT a trumpie.
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mskitty
@mskitty: Also has what looks like military ribbons, left shoulder. Somebody weigh in here?
@mskitty: I saw a guy wearing a red ribbon attached to a silver cross that was not a Maltese cross but a more standard one, sitting to the speaker’s right and I asked who he was earlier.
I totally missed anyone wearing a Maltese cross.
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Guillermo
@Corner Stone: I wish I knew. Listening to the candidates was OK but seeing the lady in red helped me make up my mind; I am voting for her since from what I could see she has all the qualifications!
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Joel
@opiejeanne: probably the Maltese cross; I would be shocked if it were anything but a signifier that the man belonged to the Knights of Malta (a catholic order).
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Janetta Ouderkirk
@Corner Stone: I’d like to know who she was also, she couldn’t restrain herself from checking her e-mails/texts. One white glove off, one white glove on. Would you say she had class??????
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Flavia
@redshirt: who is the guy sitting in front of Maria with the medal around his neck?!
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Flavia
@opiejeanne: I have been trying to find out who he is as well, no one knows it.
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Flavia
No one knows….. If anyone one finds out will you please let me know. If he got that spot he is somehow ranked high, someone must know that man’s name. Thank you.
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redshirt
Alfred E. Smith is that guy from Mad magazine, right?
Warren Terra
For a giggle, it’s worth reading the decidedly reality-challenged biographical sketch Trump’s people submitted for the event’s program
Trentrunner
No interaction between Trump & HRC. Hillary did do an arm-touch quick word as she passed Melanoma.
The emcee got off a great first joke:
“Before we began, I understand that Donald went up to Hillary and asked her how she was doing. Hillary said ‘I’m fine, Donald–now get out of the ladies’ dressing room.'”
LOL Trump is a perv.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@redshirt: Wrong Alfred E.
JPL
NYTimes Maggie is also tweeting the event
link
Rudy received loud boos
Adam L Silverman
@Trentrunner: Restraining order of protection?
Mike J
Adam, any deets on RSA withdrawing from Rome statute at ICC? Or should I just go google it?
NotMax
The Happy Warrior.
NR
Biggest poll news of today: WMUR has Hassan up by 8 over Ayotte in New Hampshire. If that’s accurate, it greatly increases the chances of a Dem Senate.
hitchhiker
I only know what this is because of The West Wing.
JPL
“Tonight, we are all friends. How do you like those apples?” says Al Smith IV at dinner.
Al Smith tells Trump, “you’re not in a locker room. So please watch your language.”
from Maggie
redshirt
@NR: Gosh, this all seems to be working out, doesn’t it?
Adam L Silverman
@Mike J: They didn’t withdraw, the African National Conference has called for the Republic of South Africa to do so however. And they made the call a year ago in OCT 2011:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34509342
JMG
@NR: UNH pollster Andy Smith is one of the worst in the business. Had Coakley over Brown by 15 a week before that election. Went from Obama up 15 over Romney to tied in two weeks. Don’t believe a single point in that survey. Doesn’t mean it can’t happen, blind pig, acorn, etc. but don’t trust those numbers. He stinks.
NR
@redshirt: We can’t be sure of anything until November 9th.
dogwood
It’s nights like this when every termed out President and every former candidate thinks “Thank God I don’t have to attend that shindig .”
NR
@JMG: That’s too bad. I think NH is close to being a must-win if we want a Dem Senate.
some guy
the International Criminal Court to Prosecute Africans for War Crimes might be losing a member? Does that mean fewer Africans will be prosecuted by the International Criminal Court to Prosecute African War CCrimes?
how horrid.
JPL
@JPL: Whoops it was Bill de Blasio
Warren Terra
@Warren Terra:
For context, see Trump’s insanely superlative hagiography side by side with Clinton’s perfectly normal biographical statement.
Patricia Kayden
@NR: Great news indeed!! I’d love to see the spineless Ayotte booted out of the Senate. Hope voters make it so. Ironic that she has pledged to vote for (but not endorse) a man who has cost her her Senate seat.
NR
@Patricia Kayden: I think she’s currently pledging to write in Pence. Unless she flipped back to Trump again and I haven’t heard about it.
redshirt
@NR: Astute analysis.
Patricia Kayden
@JMG: Ouch. Oh well.
Mike J
@Adam L Silverman: Here’s the instrument of withdrawal, dated yesterday.
JMG
@NR: It’ll be close. Doesn’t mean Hassan doesn’t win. But it’ll be close.
Uncle Cosmo
@NR: Unreliable poll from unreliable pollster. So? Resist the urge to clutch pearls & just ignore it. Every Democratic candidate should be campaigning like s/he’s 10 points down anyway, if only to run up the score. Leave it all on the field. Stomp the barstids as flat as possible.
Adam L Silverman
@Mike J: okay – there is absolutely no news coverage. Nada. Not BBC. Not NY Times. Nothing. So I don’t know what to say because I can’t substantiate the document with sources other than the twitter feed of someone I’ve never heard of.
dogwood
@NR:
I think you’re right. We aren’t even sure about holding on to Harry Reid’s seat. The problem with NH is that there is probably at decent number of republican leaning independents who will vote Hillary and Ayotte. And there just isn’t an untapped population of minorities to register and get to the polls to counteract that.
Patricia Kayden
@NR: Oh. Okay. Hadn’t heard that.
Jim Riley
I was at the Smith dinner when R. Reagan and J. Carter were there; that is the night Reagan, almost in a predatory fashion, listened to Carter’s weak remarks and low energy jokes, watched him closely and decided that Carter was weak enough to be beaten; Reagan from that night forward was in overdrive.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Warren Terra:
Not unlike their medical reports from their respective physicians.
Jim Riley
By the way how long have they allowed women to attend the Smith dinner?; I thought they had to remain in the ante-room as in the pubs in Dublin
Patricia Kayden
@JMG: Yep. Real Clear Politics has them within the margin of error. Hassan can still pull off a win.
Lee
So Adam what’s your take on that 4 minute response time comment from Hillary that the GOP is melting down about.
I didn’t see it as that big a deal as it was ‘about 4 minutes’. 2 is about 4 so is 6.
Adam L Silverman
@Lee: Huh?
Gin & Tonic
@Lee: Ancient history to anyone who knows anything about nuclear issues. Nothing classified in that at all.
Gin & Tonic
@Adam L Silverman: HRC said something about a 4-minute window for launching nukes, and the wingnuts are acting like she’s Ethel Rosenberg.
germy
@Adam L Silverman: Herr drumpf demanded HRC “resign” because she revealed nuclear secrets (four minutes!)
Adam L Silverman
@Lee: @Gin & Tonic: I’m clearly missing something. Is this from a presser she did today or something else? Some context would be great.
Semibreak
@Gin & Tonic: I’ll have a Maskirovka Slips III tomorrow. Esquire did an excellent deep dive into the Russian hacks and meddling into the election. I’ll be linking to it and excerpting it as well to set up the piece.
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: @germy: When did this all happen?
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Something she said during the debate.
germy
@Adam L Silverman: Not long after the third debate.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
I know it’s John Williams, but Jesus crap that NBC theme music gets really old really fast on a constant loop.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
Does anyone here troll RWNJ sites and poop on the threads? I’m just wondering what compels a sad little man to do such a thing. Antisocial Personality Disorder? Masochistic tendencies? Mommy didn’t pay attention to you when you thought you were cute and clever? I just don’t get it.
I can imagine trying to employ social intelligence, logic, a genuine desire to understand those with different views, but to just walk into an elevator, fart and giggle is weird to me.
Lee
@Adam L Silverman:
I thought it was during the debate.
Could have been presser after.
JPL
@Jim Riley: That won’t be Hillary’s problem. She’s visiting and mingling while the Trumps are waiting and waiting for someone to kiss their rings. Unfortunately for them, the paid servants are not there tonight.
Gin & Tonic
@Adam L Silverman: I saw references to the Esquire piece in some infosec-related Twitters I follow, but was too busy today to read it.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: @Lee: I watched the debate and did not hear that at all. I thought he was demanding she resign her candidacy because Donna Brazile notified both her campaign and the Sanders’ campaign that the death penalty would be a topic at one of the primary town halls. At this point I can’t keep straight what he’s upset about. That said I’m sure Congressman Chaffetz, who actually has divulged classified information on live TV, will be convening hearings about it. And going on TV for several days, every channel, to do his last honorable man in high dudgeon schtick.
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: Its excellent. I highly recommend it.
Gin & Tonic
Looks like Trump’s September FEC report has dropped.
waysel
@Adam L Silverman: Hillary said it during last nights debate.
Gin & Tonic
@Adam L Silverman: Sir, yes sir. I’ll get on it tomorrow.
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: really, this is how its going to be?
germy
(media matters)
Gin & Tonic
@waysel: Here’s one reaction
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: In the debate last night Hillary said the military has about 4 minutes from when the CiC orders nukes to be launched till they are launched; the wingnuts are acting like Hillary spilled a state secret by saying this.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Trentrunner: Call me a pedant or a scold, but I think it belittles us to call (the current) Mrs. Trump names, and it’s a tad mocking of folks with actual cancer issues.
@Trentrunner: ETA: What an amazing opening joke. Which I’m certain the GOP candidate received with gracious good humor. Sorry, I had a flight of fancy there. Of course he’s incapable of that.
Gin & Tonic
@Adam L Silverman: -:)
waysel
HILLARY CLINTON
I find it — ironic that he is raising nuclear weapons. This is a person who has been very cavalier, even casual about the use of nuclear weapons. He’s advocated more countries getting them
DONALD TRUMP
Wrong.
HILLARY CLINTON
.. Japan, Korea, even Saudi Arabia. He said, well if we had them why don’t we use them? Which I think is terrifying. But here’s the deal: the bottom line on nuclear weapons is that when the president gives the order, it must be followed. There is about four minutes between the order being given and the people responsible for launching nuclear weapons to do so. And that is why ten people who have had that awesome responsibility have come out in an unprecedented way said they would not trust Donald Trump with the nuclear codes or to have his finger on the nuclear button.
Quote from debate transcript.
Jean
@Adam L Silverman: @Adam L Silverman: Clinton talked about the 4 minutes to launch nuclear weapons DURING the debate. She was leveling her charge that Trump’s temperament should keep him away from nuclear codes.
TS
Seems to be few people talking to the GOP nominee He has a large back presented to him as the Cardinal talks non stop to Hillary
Jean
@waysel: Oh yeah, that’s right. Main part was Trump’s cavalier attitude toward using nuclear weapons and what countries should have them.
Gin & Tonic
This is from a UN Institute for Disarmament Research report from 2012 publicly available on the Web:
NonyNony
@Jean: Wait – is the four minute thing supposed to be a secret? I thought that was common knowledge.
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: @redshirt: Okay, tracking. This has been widely discussed for decades. I have no idea whether its technically classified, but its certainly common knowledge. We post the unclassified directives on who is in charge, what orders are to be given, etc on the web.
https://fas.org/irp/doddir/usaf/afi91-104.pdf
http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/370001p.pdf
http://www.dodccrp.org/events/10th_ICCRTS/CD/papers/177.pdf
http://fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/c3i/wwmccs.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/wwmccs.htm
Gin & Tonic
Oh, and here is a Bloomberg article from September.
Adam L Silverman
@waysel: @Jean: He was trying to interrupt her and wound up speaking over her, so that’s why I missed it. Once I saw the transcript you all posted/pointed me to, I recall the transaction.
Baud
@Gin & Tonic:
@Adam L Silverman:
But it raises questions. And clouds. Big mushrooms clouds.
muddy
Lord, Trump paints like a trollop. He has more makeup on than the rest of the dais combined.
Adam L Silverman
@NonyNony: Well it was till you all started asking me about it on Cole’s blog. I’m going to be doing paperwork for months…//
the Conster, la Citoyenne
Trump is the joke, and he doesn’t know it.
Corner Stone
Awk…WARD!
Adam L Silverman
I’m watching Trump’s routine and I’m not sure he’s not going to either 1) lose it or 2) devolve into whiny self pity.
opiejeanne
Who is the guy sitting behind Al Smith IV’s right shoulder?
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman:
Is both a possibility?
the Conster, la Citoyenne
He can’t do self deprecation. FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL.
Mary G
That audience is scared to death.
opiejeanne
@Warren Terra: It’s essentially the same as his statement in my voter’s pamphlet, just the sentences are in a different order.
TS
@Adam L Silverman:
2) devolve into whiny self pity
Baud
Trump looks defeated.
jk
Trump is bombing bigly.
muddy
Admittedly I am fast-forwarding like crazy, but so far I’ve only seen Trump speak to the cardinal and the guy to Melania’s left, except for Ghouliani stopping over. Hillary is having apparently deep conversations with a bunch of people. Meanwhile Donald keeps showing some piece of paper to Melania, and sitting there like a slug.
Boo hoo he doesn’t seem very popular at this prom…
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: Sure. Right now he’s bombing terribly. I just wish the guy to his left would move his head so the camera will zoom back in on the head that Maria Bartiromo’s chest decided to bring to the event.
Corner Stone
“Pardon me.”
Ok, that was….funny?
the Conster, la Citoyenne
Who’s laughing? At him, with him? He’s the joke.
Starfish
@West of the Rockies (been a while): Have you ever met DougJ?
He used to troll things and try to get quoted with opinions representing RWNJs. They were glorious.
Baud
These jokes would be OK if Trump weren’t evil and decrepit.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
He’s pathetically not funny. He’s a failure on every level.
Corner Stone
This is getting pretty bad.
Old Dan and Little Anne
Pardon me. That was funny.
MomSense
@the Conster, la Citoyenne:
He’s not funny.
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
With good reason.
Corner Stone
HRC is laughing so bigly. I can’t wait for her spot. CAN’T WAIT!
the Conster, la Citoyenne
OMG he’s a nutjob. Shouting out to Melania’s plagiarism. WTF.
Baud
That was not bad.
Corner Stone
Humiliate your wife some more. That’s copacetic.
Baud
@Corner Stone: She’s seen worse.
TS
@Corner Stone: Absolute disaster. Now he’s running against the President and the media.
Mary G
Uday and Qusay wrote these “jokes,” because he’s too cheap to pay a real comedy writer.
Corner Stone
BOOOOOO!!!!
debit
Trump gets groans and muffled boos. Crowd is now silent.
ETA: Now even more boos. Oh jesus. He’s bombing.
ETA2: Now he’s getting heckled.
Old Dan and Little Anne
Now drumph can fuck himself.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@Starfish:
Honestly, I was wondering why srv keeps mucking about here. He makes me wonder what the reward is to he told, “Shut the Fuck up, Donnie!” over and over.
Adam L Silverman
He’s losing it. The looks on everyone’s faces are like in a hostage video. And we’ve hit the Steve Bannon portion of the routine.
SiubhanDuinne
Hillary is not amused.
Baud
Hillary will cut him.
Corner Stone
Fuck me. Whoever wrote this second half needs to be run out of the business. This is awful stuff.
Hal
I just saw a clip and Trump and Melania’s faces. This is the last place they want to be.
muddy
I just caught up to Trump starting and I see by the comments I need to go on with the FF.
Baud
@Corner Stone: Right. It started out ok. This is horribly sad.
Adam L Silverman
Cardinal Dolan is not happy!
the Conster, la Citoyenne
Cardinal Dolan is not amused.
Corner Stone
This is ugly shit.
Jeffro
How bad do you have to suck to get booed at the Al Smith dinner?
Worse yet, how bad do you have to get to have the whole room get silent??
UH OH…”pretending not to hate Catholics”…pure Bannon…
MomSense
He’s being such a dick. Wow. I’m embarrassed for him.
psycholinguist
holy shit, is he drumk?
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: Bannon.
Baud
How many other states did we just win?
Corner Stone
I’m waiting for Cardinal Dolan to walk up and cover the mic and say, “You’re done, son. You’re done.”
opiejeanne
OH God, he is off the rails.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
I suspect Hillary has binders full of slicing jokes at Donald’s expense.
opiejeanne
@Corner Stone: He needs to do that.
Old Dan and Little Anne
The the guy to the right of drumph on screen looks like he’s about to blow a gasket.
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: I think he leaned in to Clinton and told her not to respond and just do her prepared remarks.
gogol's wife
Why? What is he saying that’s so bad?
psycholinguist
I love the people behind him gasping in horror, and then eventually just looking pissed off
debit
What the hell is he rambling about now? Oh thank god, he’s done.
amygdala
Never gon’ be President now
Never gon’ be President now
Never gon’ be President now
Never gon’ be President now
That’s one less thing to worry about
That’s one less thing to worry about
jk
@Mary G:
It sounds like Trump also got comedy tips from.Sean Hannity and Eric Bolling.
gogol's wife
@amygdala:
I have been singing that constantly in my head, but then I worry that I’m putting the evil eye on it.
Mary G
The Cardinal is signaling for the hook.
psycholinguist
@gogol’s wife: @gogol’s wife: he said Hillary hates Catholics. Full Stop. That was the “joke”
Adam L Silverman
@psycholinguist: Even Maria Bartoromo’s chest looked upset.
opiejeanne
He’s never going to be invited to the Al Smith dinner again.
Baud
They need a gong.
debit
@gogol’s wife: “It’s well known that Hillary hates the Catholic church” for starters.
opiejeanne
@Old Dan and Little Anne: I thought the guy to his left leaned toward him and said something when he first starting going off the rails.
Baud
@debit: badumdum
gogol's wife
@debit:
WTF? Is Trump Catholic? That’s a new one on me.
lamh36
@psddluva4evah
Oh…so Donald Trump once again self-destructing…how many among us could have predicted this?
opiejeanne
Yeah, Donald, who thought we’d be witnessing what we’re witnessing right now.
Jeffro
@Baud:
The State of Common Decency…jesus…
Adam L Silverman
@gogol’s wife: No, he’s not. His father was arrested at a Klan demonstration opposing Al Smith’s candidacy.
Baud
Last time she has to be in the same room with him.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
Okay let’s go
amygdala
@gogol’s wife: If L-MM can work it into his SNL monologue, I figure we’re all good.
Man, did DJT botch the last third of that speech. Oof.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
Hillary bringing humanity and history back.
Baud
@Adam L Silverman: Haha.
al smith
Does anyone know the people in the background? On the left of the screen, the one with 3 pins on his suit? On his back, the one with the red revealing dress?
Mnemosyne
@amygdala:
Have you ever seen somebody ruin their own life?
His poor wife …
Baud
Oh C’mon, MSNBC chyron!
Corner Stone
Good God. Who is the woman in the low cut red dress to the left of HRC with all that cleveland showing? The long white gloves.
Betty Cracker
Wow, Trump’s bit was awkward AF!
the Conster, la Citoyenne
great line!!!
debit
Hillz is genuinely funny.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
BASKET OF ADORABLES!
the Conster, la Citoyenne
Trump can laugh?!
opiejeanne
@Adam L Silverman: So, is he lying about attending this event with his father?
Baud
Nice.
Corner Stone
BOOM! HOLY SHIT!
jk
Hillary is wiping the floor with Trump for the 2nd consecutive day.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
SICK BURN ON PENCE
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
She’s got some good lines and is delivering them with more panache than I would have guessed. You go, Hillary!
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: That’s Maria Bartiromo’s chest.
Baud
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: That’s so cute. I see memes.
WarMunchkin
Basket of adorables is pretty great.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
WOOT!!
Corner Stone
OOOoooOOOoooOOO
the Conster, la Citoyenne
SICK BURN STATUE OF LIBERTY IS A 4!!
MomSense
@Corner Stone:
Maria Bartiromo. CNBC
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
“Basket of Adorables.” LOL.
Adam L Silverman
@Baud: Its not a joke:
http://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2016/10/guess-whos-coming-to-the-al-smith-dinner-106394
Jeffro
“Donald looks at the Statue of Liberty, and…” OUCH
the Conster, la Citoyenne
TRANSLATED FROM THE ORIGINAL RUSSIAN!!!
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Corner Stone:
Maria Bartilomo or something like that. She moderated one of the Republican primary debates.
Corner Stone
Oh fuck. Russian.
psycholinguist
Poor malania doesn’t understand the “a good number for a woman would be 45” she just looked out into space in her vacuous way.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
HILLARY IS KILLING THE GOP SOFTLY
ETA: AND THE MEDIA
Adam L Silverman
@opiejeanne: I have no idea. He’s been denying for years that his father was arrested at that demonstration despite their being a 80 some odd year old police report with his father’s name and their home address on it.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@amygdala: OT: I saw the vanity plate APHASIA in the garage below the psych and neurology departments of a university docs’ office. It’s not always there, but it was today when I went to talk to 4th residents about things to think about before talking to counsel about an employment contract.
I think a transient bout would have served the short fingered vulgarian well tonight. Last night too, come to think of it.
Jeffro
“…translating from the original Russian…” DOUBLE OUCH
WarMunchkin
I’m going to pretend she almost said German
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
Ooh burn, “even harder when you’re translating from the original Russian!”
debit
BURN.
Baud
Hahahaha. Billionaire.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
RUDY IS NOT AMUSED
Baud
Rudy ain’t laughing.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
“This counts as a press conference, right?” Love it!
psycholinguist
ohhhh no she didn’t
Jeffro
ALL THE KNIVES…
Betty Cracker
Rudy was not amused.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
PREPARATION.
DROP THE MIC HILLARY, DROP THE MIC
Adam L Silverman
@MomSense:
Fixed it for you.
Corner Stone
@Jeffro: ALL OF THEM
jk
Kudos to Hillary for kicking Giuliani in the nuts.
Mary G
RUDY BURN
Betty Cracker
Daaaayyyuuum!
Corner Stone
MY FEELS. I HAVE FELT ALL OF THEM AND THEY ARE FEELING RIGHT NOW!
the Conster, la Citoyenne
NFLTG HILLARY IS BRINGING ALL THE TRUTH BOMBS
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
“It’s called preparation!”
LOLOL!!
amygdala
Oh, man… *dials burn ward*
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
OMG I am loving this SO FUCKING HARD
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: Rudy is a helicopter?
Corner Stone
That Muslim ban joke should have went better. It was balls.
NonyNony
@West of the Rockies (been a while):
He’s a troll. Most trolls live purely for the reaction. That’s where the term “troll” comes from – it’s originally from the fishing term, not the monsters that live under bridges. He throws his net into the water and drags it around trying to catch an innocent commenter and get a reaction – trolling for anger basically. Any reaction is good – for trolls the amusement value lies in provoking a response. The best response is irritation or anger, but mockery can be fine. Because the troll is getting the “look at me! look at me!” response that feeds his underdeveloped ego. If mommy and daddy had hugged him more as a child maybe he’d be less willing to debase himself on the internet going lower and lower in his attempts to provoke an angry response from a stranger.
I knew some Usenet trolls back in the day when I was in college. Personally in meatspace, not online. They were like that in real life too – the kind of guys who would say or do something mean as a “joke” just to provoke a reaction out of the people around them. It mostly seemed that they wanted attention but didn’t know how to get good attention so they “settled” for people telling them to “shut the fuck up”. It may be hate, but at least someone is talking to you and its better than being lonely. And occasionally someone would laugh at whatever stupid thing they said and it made them feel good.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
HILLARY IS GOING ALL THE WAY WITH IT. GO HILLARY GOOOOO!!!!!!!
Adam L Silverman
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: @Baud: And they seated him next to Mayor Dinkins. He hates Dinkins.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@amygdala:
IKR??? BURN BABY BURN
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
“Donald has issues. Really, really serious issues.”
Mary G
Hit him again, Hillary! Harder! Harder!
debbie
The Guardian isn’t amused either:
redshirt
Hillary dropping sick burns.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
OOOOOO PUTIN BURN IN HELL WITH PUTIN DONALD AND NOW DONALD CAN EAT HILLARY’S SHIT
Adam L Silverman
Vladimir Putin’s horse! Drink!
Corner Stone
Someone needs to walk over and tap this one out. It’s so over.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
She is much, much funnier and looser than I ever thought she would be. She’ll kill ’em at the next four or eight WHCDs.
Jeffro
Ok Hillz, wrap it up, skip to the thank-yous…
Baud
Haha Cruz burn.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
Ted Cruz gets a lol
redshirt
Donald seems to be enjoying it too.
Jeffro
@Corner Stone: yes, please…the “35 years” remark was a little cruel with Melania in the audience…
Her vengeance is mighty, GOP. You’ve been warned.
Trump, at least she didn’t actually put your head on a pike.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
HILLZ IS DA BOMB, AND THE ONLY ONE WHO TOOK DONALD ON, AND WON
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: Al Smith thought it was funny.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@redshirt:
no, not really
Baud
Damn. This serious part is crushing it.
WarMunchkin
Someone said Hillary has dark humor and I believe it after this. I totally would want to get a beer with.
Baud
@WarMunchkin: I’d do shots with her.
redshirt
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: He’s laughing. I’ll give him that. Rudy couldn’t manage that.
Corner Stone
Faith without works is dead. Go HRC.
Ken
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: I’m hoping she closes by promising Donald that he’ll be invited to all the WHCDs, with a chair front and center.
jk
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: @Baud:
Rudy is a dumb fuck and that joke was well earned given all the bullshit he has spewed on behalf of Trump.
debit
Standing O for Hillary.
Corner Stone
Lives we touch, not what we build.
Such a not so subtle burn.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: Drezner tweeted that Dolan is nudging him at the appropriate points.
https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/789276497207037952
Turner Hedenkoff
@muddy
>Meanwhile Donald keeps showing some piece of paper to Melania
The prenup? I’ll bet it’s the prenup.
Mary G
I feel some 4 a.m. tweeting coming up.
opiejeanne
@psycholinguist: (I didn’t get the 45 either; what’s it in reference to?)
jk
David Gergen: Trump doesn’t know the difference between being light-hearted and heavy-handed
Gloria Borger: Trump missed the self-deprecating part
Baud
@opiejeanne:
45th president.
psycholinguist
@opiejeanne: President number 45 of the united states of america. – joke as rate this woman a 45
Mary G
@opiejeanne: Number of next president up. Obama
is 44.
Corner Stone
never freakin mind
petesh
@Baud: Oh yes, I think Hillary is a shots woman.
TS
@efgoldman:
No argument with that – but he still doesn’t want to talk to Donald – the latter probably forgot to donate
the Conster, la Citoyenne
Remember, this is an audition to replace Obama.
Bob2
@petesh: Not if she gets her way on gun control!
Trump is definitely a whine guy.
opiejeanne
@Corner Stone: I don’t think they got it. We howled.
Sm*t Cl*de
@Ken:
And a glass booth.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Baud:
Wait, are you saying Rudy is a helicopter???
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Omnes Omnibus:
Oh, curses. When will I ever learn to read the comments before commenting myself?
Jeffro
Ye gods, these two…no false equivalence here, he’s slime and she’s clearly been put here on earth to DEFEAT SLIME, but…if I’m feeling nostalgic for McCain and Obama (and there really wasn’t any love lost there)…holy cow…
redshirt
Hilary was great. Very funny, good timing, good writing. 9/10.
Adam L Silverman
Kissinger looks horrible.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Adam L Silverman:
And your point?
opiejeanne
@Baud: Ohhhh! Thanks. That should have been obvious but I kept thinking of it relating to age.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
Hillary is feeling it. Hillary’s got everyone’s number, remembers everything, understands the entire Washington/media complex and their feels, and has learned from the master President Black Ninja. SHE’S GOT THIS.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Adam L Silverman: This is a surprise? Isn’t he about half past dead by now?
Mike J
@Adam L Silverman: Kissinger is horrible.
Aleta
Kissinger blocking her exit, acting a bit like a predator, when he should just say hello and then let her be.
Miss Bianca
@Mike J: @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): You two pretty much summed up my only possible responses right there.
redshirt
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: That’s a crucial element to all this. Hillary has always been smart, dedicated, compassionate, etc. But I think it’s by running against, then working with, then having the support of one Barack Hussein Obama which has taken her to the next level.
Go Hillz!
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: Just that he looks horrible. Not that he ever looked good.
Joel
@West of the Rockies (been a while): Relevant TAL episode.
NotMax
@Adam L. Silverman
Thus the mask when he appears in guest roles.
jk
@redshirt:
And Trump was the mirror opposite. He had the worst joke writers of all-time.
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: Shouldn’t you now be liberal mob enforcer nasty woman?
Aleta
Is it safe to have all these phones around her? (can they be explosified?)
redshirt
@jk: Yep. Awkward and ungracious. He got booed repeatedly for cripes sakes! 2/10.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@NonyNony:
“Meatspace”! Haven’t heard that term before. Funny!
Sad though, someone so hungry for attention that he’ll so degrade himself.
opiejeanne
Justice Souter 4 years ago on MSNBC. I missed it then. Rachel holding it up against Donald Trump’s demand that he be given all power.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: I will spare you the side eye.
Gelfling 545
@Adam L Silverman: He always has.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Adam L Silverman:
Yeah’xackly.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Omnes Omnibus:
Nah, don’t worry about me, go crazy.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@redshirt:
Yes. She shed her Bill Clinton/90s scandal skin, Obama trusted and empowered her, she learned from the master and is now her own best version of her. You can see it!
Mnemosyne
@Adam L Silverman:
Now imagine what the portrait he keeps hidden in a secret room looks like …
(For those who don’t recognize the reference, maybe this will help.)
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@opiejeanne:
I just recorded that and posted it on FB. My favorite saying of all time is Ben Franklin’s “it’s a Republic, if you can keep it”. WORD
Soylent Green
@Adam L Silverman: Henry the K is 93. How else should he look?
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Baud:
I should, but am not sure it’s worth languishing in moderation for however long it takes to get a new nym approved. But maybe.
Adam L Silverman
@Soylent Green: Terrible.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: At this point, can’t you just go with “etc.”?
KS in MA
@Adam L Silverman: Kissinger has always looked horrible.
ETA: As everyone else has already pointed out.
Kay (not the front-pager)
@opiejeanne: In case no one else answered, 45 is for 45th president, President Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Joel
Looks like Trump delivered one borscht belt style joke — appeared human, almost — and then…
SiubhanDuinne, etc. (Blame Omnes)
@Omnes Omnibus:
I will try.
chopper
@Joel:
typical trump. he starts out okay and then quickly devolves into a mendacious spiteful prick.
Steeplejack (tablet)
@Corner Stone:
Are your can’t evens coming back?
randy khan
@Corner Stone:
Already identified by others as Maria Bartiromo, but I wanted to note that she was following the longstanding etiquette rule that the lower the neckline, the longer the gloves.
jk
@randy khan:
Maria Bartiromo is a know nothing dumbass.
Joel
I really enjoyed watching maltese cross guy stifle his laughter during Clinton’s bit.
Ian
@West of the Rockies (been a while):
I used to do that at redstate, but that was when I was younger and could get my giggles about being a jerk to people. Wait.. do the commentators at redstate count as people?
leeleeFL
@opiejeanne: over a year ago I told a table I was waiting on to stop talking about Trump and he would go away, because he was a fame junkie. I knew all about the Donald from my New York life. So I knew this was not only possible but very likely.
2liberal
: Its All Good Fun Until… somebody loses an eye?
danielx
@srv:
Yes indeed. I’d like to know whether Thiel gets off on like, setting fire to big piles of money as a hobby. That’s about how much utility he’ll derive from his 1.25 mil investment.
2liberal
see snopes re: 4 minute window
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mskitty
Yeah, who’s the maltese cross guy? or at least, what’s the maltese cross decoration? Looks like serious stuff. And how did he get picked to be on camera for the entire set of speeches? Nice reactions, though – clearly NOT a trumpie.
mskitty
@mskitty: Also has what looks like military ribbons, left shoulder. Somebody weigh in here?
opiejeanne
@mskitty: I saw a guy wearing a red ribbon attached to a silver cross that was not a Maltese cross but a more standard one, sitting to the speaker’s right and I asked who he was earlier.
I totally missed anyone wearing a Maltese cross.
Guillermo
@Corner Stone: I wish I knew. Listening to the candidates was OK but seeing the lady in red helped me make up my mind; I am voting for her since from what I could see she has all the qualifications!
Joel
@opiejeanne: probably the Maltese cross; I would be shocked if it were anything but a signifier that the man belonged to the Knights of Malta (a catholic order).
Janetta Ouderkirk
@Corner Stone: I’d like to know who she was also, she couldn’t restrain herself from checking her e-mails/texts. One white glove off, one white glove on. Would you say she had class??????
Flavia
@redshirt: who is the guy sitting in front of Maria with the medal around his neck?!
Flavia
@opiejeanne: I have been trying to find out who he is as well, no one knows it.
Flavia
No one knows….. If anyone one finds out will you please let me know. If he got that spot he is somehow ranked high, someone must know that man’s name. Thank you.