I’ve done a couple of these so far. One dealing with that whacked out sentence in the rape case in California. One in regard to anti-Semites threatening a reporter on twitter.
Earlier today, during her interview with Anderson Cooper, Melania Trump indicated that if she becomes First Lady she intends to focus on combating the negativity on social media.
Melania Trump tells CNN she wants her focus as First Lady to be combating negativity on social media.
Hmm.
— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) October 18, 2016
Perhaps she should ask her step son in law why this is unacceptable and then speak with her husband and ask him to publicly tell his supporters that this is unacceptable. And it cannot go unremarked.
This is a death threat by Trump supporters against Politico reporter @Hadas_Gold. This is not trolling. This person should be in jail: pic.twitter.com/jqykYWDkJA
— Michael Karanicolas (@M_Karanicolas) October 17, 2016
I do not know Ms. Gold, but she needs to know that others will stand up with and for her if necessary. And the same to anyone else who is being threatened like this on twitter and other social media platforms regardless of their ethnicity or religion or gender or sexuality.
Stuff like this is also why the owners of Twitter can’t get anyone to actually buy it.
Peale
Yep. Somehow I can’t see Pepsi wanting its ads to wind up on that thread.
Eric U.
I was just thinking today that I would tweet if I could mute everyone by default
Damien
Adam, do you think we’re at real risk of coordinated violence after the election? Is this that start of an unraveling of the grey zone?
NotMax
So she wants to be the 21st century Anthony Comstock?
redshirt
And Donald respects women more than anyone. ANYONE!
Upside down world.
Botsplainer
Jared is a shanda fur die goyim based on what I see of his actions; not sure he cares at all.
amk
well, she could always start with her ‘second child’.
hovercraft
Rachel had the editor or maybe the CEO of the Arizona Republic on tonight, who wrote an editorial about the people threatening her reporters and staff, all the way down to kids out trying to sell subscriptions. The big impetus for the editorial was a threat that included a reference to one of their papers reporters who was killed in a car bombing 40 years ago. So while the social media threats are scary, one never knows when they become real, between the fire bombing and vandalism in NC, and the 3 yahoos who wanted to blow up Somalis the day after the election, or the idiot saying he may become a “patriot” if Hillary wins, we have to take this shit seriously.
Adam L Silverman
@Damien: I think we are going to see sporadic, low level political violence. Some of it will be stochastic terrorism directed at ethnic and religious minorities and anyone believed to not be supporting Trump (this is why I’m curious to see who is responsible for the NC firebombing). And the violence will include verbal threatening (making terroristic threats), actual physical violence, and crimes against property. I think there is a very high probability of sporadic violence on election day should, and I stress should, some Trump supporters take his advice and decide to make themselves poll watchers. I delineated how I thought that would go down yesterday. I think that should Trump lose, as is currently being predicted, even if its a blow out, he will not concede. He and his most vehement proxies are already establishing a proactive Dolchstoßlegende. This will place social, psychological, and emotional pressure on some of his supporters to actually strike out in an attempt to reverse things. How wide spread this will be, I do not know. I am also very concerned that on the more extremes, or, rather, where the extremes have seeped into more mainstream conservatism over the course of the campaign, that when some of these folks do not see the military and law enforcement act to overturn the election that they could become targets as well. The whole point of the Oathkeeper con that Stuart Rhodes is running is that current and former military and law enforcement will all stand with the “Patriots”. Well, when the “Patriots” don’t get the response they want from the military and law enforcement (outside some retirees and the CSPOA idiots like Sheriff Clarke), they will decide that they are traitors to their oaths and go after them as well. And because they’re in uniform and visible, that will make them easier targets.
Adam L Silverman
@Botsplainer: Check out the link I put in the post in regard to him.
NotMax
BTW, found the perfectly named location for Trump to set up the HQ of his fantasy media empire.
hovercraft
She should start now by walking to whichever floor the Donald’s suite is on and tell him to stop sending and forwarding racist, sexist, xenophobic, and anti-semitic tweets.
Lyrebird
@Adam L Silverman: @Botsplainer: Yes, that Tablet article was excellent, so I am reposting the link to save a click or two.
lamh36
Who was it talking about feeling sorry for Melania in that other thread??
Well she also did an interview on Foz News…
Melania Trump on bringing up Bill Clinton’s past: ‘They’re asking for it’
NotMax
@Adam L. Silverman
Strictly FYI, but note that this past spring the wackos from Westboro dismissed and derided Trump as being too fringe.
(Not a direct reply, but felt it sort of tied in.)
Lyrebird
@Eric U.: Was thinking the same if I could just have Paul Campos, lamh, and Cole, maybe I’d use twitter.
Also that Khan dude Cole retweeted. Led me to this sweet billboard in Arabic (with translation at link) that CardsAgainstHumanity put up outside Dearborn. Yeah. Them.
Cool!
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman: My money’s on black bloc anarchists (second guess actual Nazis/normal goopers) for the campaign office bombing.
lamh36
Back on subject a bit…the way Trumo supporters twist and bend to try to defend their guy is hilarious, scary and sad all at once.
I tell ya one thing…the first person to say “be nice to Trump supporters” after HRC kicks his azz might get a punch in the throat from me
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
That picture and tweet message is not only sick-making, it is profoundly shocking.
Occasionally in the past, I have expressed shock or surprise at some RWNJ outrage, and other commenters have said, in essence, “Don’t be shocked, they’ve shown their hand for years, this is who they are,” with the unspoken but clear message that I am just naïve if I’m shocked.
Well, I am shocked. And I always want to be shocked by things like this. I never want to get to the point where I expect it, or take it for granted, or shrug it off as “this is who they are.” It is unacceptable, unforgettable, and unforgivable.
EBT
@Major Major Major Major: The real question is what age will they be. Black block? Under 25 all of them. Nazi or other republicans? Mid 40s.
Adam L Silverman
@NotMax: They may be fanatics, but they have principles.
jl
The violent extremism of a minority of Trumpers is a serious issue. Trump isn’t going out of his way to condemn it, is he.
Sad and dangerous that this hasn’t been a bigger issue in the media.
I hope too many people don’t get hurt or killed before this mess is over.
Thing is, once this mindset gets going, nobody is safe, it all depends on who Trump is pissed off at on a given day.
Hispanics, anyone who looks vaguely ‘Muslin’ African-Americans, Jews and other minority groups will be the most likely targets.
But now that Trump had discovered a vast global conspiracy against him, it could be some old duffer named Floyd, veteran Establishment GOP poll watcher, and obvious secret agent of the Paul Ryan-HRC conspiracy against Trump who gets creamed.
You would think the celeb media news divas would take note, but they seem to be in their own little bubble.
Really disgusting and dangerous. Twitter certainly needs to hear about it from concerned citizens.
lamh36
@lamh36:
Omnes Omnibus
This is calling for Kristallnacht again.
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: Deplorable even?
Adam L Silverman
@Major Major Major Major: I don’t want to speculate because Trump has riled up his supporters against the GOP as an institution, as well as the Democrats and African Americans, Hispanic/Latino Americans, immigrants in America regardless of status, Muslim Americans, Asian Americans, and Jewish Americans. Also, all female Americans that are not, at least, an 8. Its important to note that two Democratic headquarters/offices in the same area were also vandalized the same night, just not firebombed.
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/nc-democratic-headquarters-attacked-on-same-night-nearby-gop-office-was-firebombed/
If connected, the phrasing would certainly suggest your black bloc folks.
Prescott Cactus
Shouldn’t one of the buttons on the Twitter-deck? be “send the FBI to this asshats location and have them bring a net”?
Gian
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-white-flight-of-derek-black/2016/10/15/ed5f906a-8f3b-11e6-a6a3-d50061aa9fae_story.html
Long Article from the weekend, but the portions about how the white terrorist organizations love them some trump and see him as their standard bearer is worth reading
jl
@Adam L Silverman: Any group that Trump is raging insanely about on a given day could be target of his most extreme nutjob supporters. This kind of thing always leads to that horrible end. No group remains safe. One reason to remember the evils brought about by similar movements like this throughout history.
Edit: Brecht wrote some chilling stuff that shows how it ends if people like this get power.
Adam L Silverman
@jl: Its why I keep posting this stuff. Ms. Gold’s website is locked down tight. Not sure about her Twitter. I hope that she has reported this to the FBI or that one of her supervisors at Politico has.
JordanRules
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: Cosign.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Omnes Omnibus:
Even so.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: I am just waiting for the attack on WASPy, liberal, army veteran lawyers with brown hair and green eyes. He will get to me eventually. Or I will be insulted.
jl
@Adam L Silverman: I didn’t know that the Dem headquarters was attacked too. If related, makes anarchist, or some really weirdo white nationalist Trump goons behind it more likely. Trump has ID’d the sinister master Establishment Republican-Democrat-Mexican real estate billionaire global conspiracy. He cuts them no slack There are, he supposes, some good Mexicans. and he only wants to help the African-Americans, if only he could get his message out there. But no quarter to the bland but very evil establishment.
Edit: thought the antisemitism is very pure old school hate too. What has Trump done to counter it? Nothing that I can see.
MomSense
I heard from some friends who are getting threats over their support for the background check referendum question.
I’m hoping the ammosexuals don’t try to intimidate people at the polls.
Regnad Kcin
@Adam L Silverman: and, of course, this is what makes it not so much about ‘all the popcornz’ but instead the tragedy of us surrendering democracy to (the maw of the media) ^ (the 1%)
i might have the order of operations wrong, there
Omnes Omnibus
@MomSense: Intimidate how?
Adam L Silverman
@jl: Carlos Slim’s family is originally from Lebanon. They’re Maronite Catholics. I checked just to see if the Slim’s were part of the Jewish Mexican community as that would just tie everything into a nice bow.
lamh36
Good night BJ
Redshift
@Lyrebird:
Umm, you can. Create a Twitter account, follow those accounts, boom, done.
I don’t understand all these people who don’t use Twitter and talk about all the terrible stuff on it. (I don’t mean you, just that it’s a common sentiment here.)
It’s exceptionally easy to only see the good stuff. The fact that awful things exist (and appear in nitpicking posts here, as well as worthwhile efforts like this post) doesn’t mean it’s thrust in your face if you dare to go on Twitter. Don’t go looking for it, you don’t see it.
Omnes Omnibus
@shomi: Go blow a goat, if you can find one that would consent. That should occupy your time.
hovercraft
@lamh36:
Why would anyone feel sorry for her? She chose this bed to lie in, she is supporting a man she must know is unfit for the job. She could have continued to do what she’s done for the last few months, hide at home with her son and not vocally push him onto the rest of us. She lies just like the rest of the family.
Mike in dc
Someone needs a 3 week “time out”.
MomSense
@Omnes Omnibus:
Phone calls, messages and comments on Facebook, and emails. They own a bookshop and have been active politically for years so I think they are probably well known by the gun people.
Adam L Silverman
@Regnad Kcin: Yep. I know law enforcement is ready for election day issues. I had a conversation with a good friend today who is a SWAT Sniper and tactical trainer for his department, which is in a Stand Your Ground state. We talked about the scenarios that I’m worrying over and he replied that they (law enforcement in general, not just SWAT) were expecting issues, were prepared for it, and this is stuff they’re good at dealing with: a few knuckleheads doing something stupid – with or without weapons.
jl
@Adam L Silverman: The nice and very simple bow that eventually gets tied is to lash out and try to hurt anyone who makes you mad on a given day, or in any way threatens to get in the way of what you want. Certain groups will get on the list more often than others, but everyone gets a turn at beatings and persecution eventually.
Why hasn’t the extremist Trump supporters’ antisemitism gotten more attention? Vicious antisemitism from extremist Trump supporters has been public for weeks now. Why not more protest? I’ve never heard it mentioned in the vigilant corporate media.
JordanRules
@shomi: Fred, you need to get a life and stop talking to people in a way you would never do in meat space.
Stop policing how people feel and are reacting to this election. Your ability to not be effected by this stuff the same way others might, means you should try to open your mind and see things from another perspective. It’s the democratic way.
Also stop shitting on this blog that still welcomes your rude and unsociable ass.
Adam L Silverman
@shomi: I actually get paid to consider these types of things. Your taxpayer dollars at work. Thank you for your support!
NotMax
@Regnad Kcin
Luis Estrada’s movie “The Perfect Dictatorship” does a fine job lampooning just that (among other things political). Disturbing part is that the story’s springboard is actual events in Mexico.
Estrada is akin to a modern day Preston Sturges when it comes to writing and directing, only with sharper claws.
Mnemosyne
@Adam L Silverman:
We have some pretty active Black Bloc idiots in California, particularly up by where Major^4 lives, so I think I would have to agree with him that the vandalism and firebombing sounds like the kind of stuff they like to do. They still have nostalgia for the WTO protests in Seattle, and it got pretty hairy in Sacramento this summer when the Black Blocers and Trumpers ended up brawling at one of his rallies.
As far as the text message (Tweet?) goes, what I’ll say is that this is the kind of shit that happens when a national figure decides to empower white supremacists. I’m not surprised, but I am disgusted.
Adam L Silverman
@Mike in dc: I’m considering it. The last comment was close.
Omnes Omnibus
@MomSense: So how would they intimidate at the polls?
Adam L Silverman
@shomi: Your lack of concern/compassion with someone notable (a reporter) who has been threatened with violence simply because of her religion is astonishing. I think you should take some time away and reconsider the poor choices that have led you to this failure.
Adam L Silverman
@jl: I’ve heard it mentioned. There was media coverage over the weekend of the ADL’s condemnation of Trump’s use of international bankers as a traditional anti-Semitic trope and dog whistle.
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: I’m tracking. If I recall they were the real trouble makers in Ferguson, as well as other places.
Lizzy L
I’ve pretty much stopped listening to NPR, but I was driving today and turned the radio on. There was a segment about Trump’s claim that the election is rigged, with one Democrat and one Republican responding: the Republican was the head of the Florida Republican party who (among other things) ran the 2000 election Florida recount. He was ADAMANT, that NO, the U.S. election is not rigged, could not be rigged, there is no voter fraud of the sort that Donald Trump claims there is — he was clearly furious at the Trump camp’s claim, and pushing back against it as hard as he could. The Democrat was equally forceful, but I found the Republican impressive.
The only other person I’ve heard or heard about pushing back against Trump’s language is Peter King, who went on TV this morning to openly reject Trump’s language. Trump responded on Twitter, BTW:
The rest of the Republicans are staying conspicuously silent. And if there is violence such as you describe in #10 above, they will all be horrified, just horrified. They are all ratfuckers, every damned one of them.
NotMax
@Adam L. Silverman
It’s been banned before under other names. Can’t recall them all, but one nym had the word pink in it.
Adam L Silverman
@Lizzy L: That’s Alex Castellanos, the former head of the Florida GOP.
Adam L Silverman
@NotMax: Tracking.
jl
@Lizzy L: When doing GOTV, I’ve never ever had any problems with GOP, or even rather ideologically extreme third party people who watch polls. Everyone has been very straight arrow. I guess volunteers don’t last long in that line of work if they are not super straight arrow.
But now this GOP functionary might be on some Trump nutcase’s list. The slimy politicians probably have less to worry about.
Regnad Kcin
@NotMax: I am a longtime fan of prestonsturgitation (and boy howdy, does this election ever have the great man’s fingerprints all over it)
Eric U.
@Redshift: I have a twitter account, and I have never tweeted. The problem is if you express an opinion, then the shit starts raining down on you. I guess that’s fine as far as it goes, but I have a hard time keeping quiet. For example, I would like to ask Rick Wilson and Tom Nichols a couple of questions, but they are followed by a batch of hateful people that I don’t want descending on my twitter account
Lizzy L
@Adam L Silverman: Yup. I was moved by what he said. He was passionate in his pride in the election system.
jl
@Adam L Silverman:
” That’s Alex Castellanos, the former head of the Florida GOP. ”
Name sounds familiar. I don’t know if he rates as some nameless GOP electoral functionary.
MomSense
@Omnes Omnibus:
When the petition drive was taking place at polling locations they showed up with video cameras filming people who were signing the petitions and asking them questions. They made people very uncomfortable. We are now an open carry state and I don’t like the idea of them milling around outside armed.
jl
I guess someone here can tell me whether the TrumNews annoucement is a hoax. Below is the note posted in Josh Marshall’s twitter feed. Hope the link works.
Josh MarshallVerified account
@joshtpm
oh my http://trmp.news/#comingsoon
Edit: OK, I didn’t follow the evolving scroll long enough. It’s a come on for some kind of anti-Trump organization.
Adam L Silverman
@jl: He’s a Bush family functionary, not the professional baseball player:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Castellanos
Villago Delenda Est
Ammosexuals fear background checks because many of them would not be approved. For legal, or mental health reasons.
Nom de Plume
@Adam L Silverman:
Oh, dude….
Villago Delenda Est
@jl: The link works, and it’s too perfect not to be a manifestation of Poe’s Law.
Lizzy L
@Lizzy L: No, it was not Alex Castellanos. He’s a strategist and he was supporting Trump — may still be. I checked. It was Al Cardenas. He’s a serious conservative, a lawyer, born in Cuba. He was the Florida Republican party Chairman in 2000, and supervised the recount.
Adam L Silverman
@jl: Its a hoax. Or rather a parody. If you go to the site it says so at the bottom in big letters.
Omnes Omnibus
@MomSense: They are cowards. They are preening. Just go and vote. They don’t know how you vote.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@lamh36:
I hear you, but governing effectively while 40% of the population keeps pissing on the gears of democracy is tough. Don’t know if there’s a way to truly reach that 40% though. I wonder how much more BHO could have accomplished with even a modicum of cooperation.
Adam L Silverman
@Nom de Plume: I was recounting a professional conversation. I can’t/don’t take sides in those. The minute I do, my credibility is toast. Its why you never see me write here that he will lose, must lose, etc. The closest I’ve gotten to the line was when I was writing in regard to his declared intention to knuckle our NATO allies that this would overturn the established global order, which would present a clear and present danger to the US.
Prescott Cactus
@jl: and the pharma Co, producing Thorazine.
Adam L Silverman
@Lizzy L: Okay, that’s the other Al who’s a big deal in the FL GOP. Cardenas is a crook. He was tied to Rubio’s misappropriation of state GOP funds and misuse of his official credit card when he was speaker of the Florida house.
MomSense
@Omnes Omnibus:
Hers an article about their videotaping effort.
videotaping petition gathering
Keepi in mind, someone or some group vandalized vehicles outside the Trump rally the other day and the governor compared voting for the referendum question to raise the minimum wage to “attempted murder”. We’ve had the governor threaten members of the legislature, reporters, and cartoonists. It feels really charged right now.
MomSense
@Omnes Omnibus:
I already voted.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Damn it. Lose, not loose. Aaaaarrghthhhhh!
Adam L Silverman
@West of the Rockies (been a while): A lot. But some of it a lot of Democrats wouldn’t have liked because it would have entailed bringing Republican/conservative items into the final product.
Lizzy L
@Adam L Silverman: Cardenas may be a crook — but I was impressed by his defense of U. S. elections. It was whole-hearted, and he was clearly not willing to support Trump in this.
PatrickG
@Adam L Silverman: Was that a temporary ban? Did my birthday come early?
Shomi’s just so damn repetitive and pathetic. Nap and juice box clearly in order.
GregB
Scroll down. It states the ad is a parody.
Omnes Omnibus
@MomSense: I have never put bumper stickers on my car. If you have voted, you have done your part. if you can get others to vote, woohoo!
Felonius Monk
In case nobody has mentioned it, the reporter that was killed in that car bombing was the brother of the guy who wrote “What Color is Your Parachute?”.
Omnes Omnibus
@PatrickG: Do you know Cole’s banning rules?
hovercraft
@jl:
One of his claims to fame is the infamous “Hands” commercial for Jesse Helms.
BruceJ
@hovercraft: President of the Arizona Republic. Rachel brought up the death of Don Bolles, but didn’t mention that his assasination brought on a coordinated effort by investigative journalists called ‘The Arizona Project’ http://archive.azcentral.com/specials/special01/0528bolles-arizonaproject.html and clearly their efforts touched a lot of nerves; the pushback was hard.
NotMax
@Regnad Kcin
Check out some of Estrada’s fare, then. Good stuff. Have not looked recently, but Netflix had both “A Perfect Dictatorship” (released in 2014) and “A Wonderful World” (2006) available not all that long ago.
Hoping they will eventually get around to also making available “Hell” (a/k/a “El Narco”).
More serious in intent and execution, utilizing surrealism (and also a touchstone of Latin American magical realism lit), would be Nobel winner Miguel Asturias’ fine, fine novel El Señor Presidente as a sort of bookend to Brecht. English translations ought to still be in print.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: Sorry, its late and I’m about ready to turn in. I’ll go fix it.
Nom de Plume
@Adam L Silverman:
I was referring to the lamentable misspelling of “lose”. Sorry, I know it’s petty, but that particular mistake will never die.
PatrickG
@Omnes Omnibus: I do, hence wondering if I got an unexpected present.
It’d be great to loose shomi’s whining for a bit, though.
Edited to fix typo.
Nom de Plume
@Adam L Silverman:
I was referring to the lamentable misspelling of “lose”.
Adam L Silverman
@Nom de Plume: Sorry, again its late. I’ll go fix it.
SFAW
@lamh36:
Make sure we get pics. (With any identifying info edited out, of course.)
Anne Laurie
Thanks for posting this, Adam. You’re correct, we do need to call this kind of filth out… but one doesn’t want to give them more of the publicity they crave. Or excessively depress our own readers, for that matter. I’m glad you have a stronger stomach / better sense of boundaries than I do!
NotMax
@hovercraft
Don’t want to contemplate for more than a picosecond a Trump ad called “Hands.”
SFAW
@shomi:
Here’s an idea: either stop with the projection already, you whiny piece of shit, or FOAD
Actually, “and FOAD” might also work.
SFAW
@NotMax:
I’m guessing it’s not for a large-screen TV.
NotMax
@SFAW
XXX-rated, too.
Adam L Silverman
@Anne Laurie: You’re welcome. Heading to bed soon, so, as usual, you will have the 3rd watch! I stand relieved.
SFAW
@Adam L Silverman:
Thank you. He’s far more problematic that RtR was. RtR was delusional, and/or a paid shill, but his level of assholery was not on a par with this mofo.
hovercraft
@BruceJ:
Thanks, that was interesting.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@Adam L Silverman:
True enough. Intransigence goes both ways I suppose.
hovercraft
@NotMax:
That’s disgusting.
Adam L Silverman
@West of the Rockies (been a while): The question is what do you prefer: gridlock or legislation that makes compromises and includes things you may not like/agree with?
SFAW
@NotMax:
OK, there’s some joke I’m (yet again) not getting.
Prescott Cactus
Awkward pixelation of hands. Hard to make a mountain out of a molehill.
Prescott Cactus
compromises and includes things you may not like/agree with?
small d, democracy.
Bring it on !
NotMax
@SFAW
Does the word “grope” ring a bell?
Hadn’t thought of the connection before (duh!) but the Trump campaign supporters’ delusions are a come to real life version of the parody character Nosher Powell‘s in “Eat the Rich.”
Redshift
@Eric U.:
No, it generally doesn’t. I express political opinions all the time on Twitter, and even in this heated election season, I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve had a wingnut respond to me.
It certainly happens that people become targets for wingnuts, which is a risk you take in almost any interment forum, but it’s actually not commonplace.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@efgoldman:
If they fade at 2% every four years via death or attrition, they’ll be effectively neutered in another two decades, reduced to third party status.
Ah, but what rough beast, it’s hour come round at last, will rise in the GOP’s place?
patrick II
@lamh36:
That was probably me. I didn’t say I felt sorry for her, but I did say she was out of her depth, a not well educated novice in a presidential election. In a way what I am saying is meaner — I am not respecting her agency as an individual. I just think she is more bland than evil, but the Hannah Arendt has explained why that is a bad idea.
Major Major Major Major
OMG, did the worst part of this blog get banned?
SFAW
@efgoldman:
To where?
Since “hands” has been used in multiple ways and contexts when referring to the ferret-headed shitgibbon, I thought there might have been an even-newer Trump-related item of scorn that I had missed. And the “xxx-rated” threw me off, since groping is not what I would classify as xxx-rated. But that’s me, clueless as ever.
@NotMax:
Got it.
Mike E
Haha
Hammertime!
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@Major Major Major Major:
So it appears, but I think only Cole, burdened with glorious purpose, can perma-ban fools.
SFAW
@West of the Rockies (been a while):
Maybe he’ll e-mail Cole to appeal his time-out. I hear John likes getting mail on stuff like that.
Mike E
@SFAW: Doug. J.
SFAW
@Mike E:
Need a little more besides a name to be able to parse. Are you saying Doug likes (or doesn’t) getting mail? Or that Doug e-mails Cole? Or what?
Eric U.
@SFAW: I think he’s saying that shomi is a Doug J. parody troll
Major Major Major Major
@efgoldman: Eh, I stopped counting, but i’m sure you’re doing great.
Major Major Major Major
@Eric U.: For some reason I doubt this.
SFAW
@Eric U.:
Oh.
I think that’s pretty unlikely. Plus, I don’t think Doug’s method of trolling tries to peg the “vile piece of shit” meter.
Mike E
@Eric U.: Well Jesus, he’s just capitalizing the first letter now…we must bore him to death!
Major Major Major Major
@Mike E: I’m kind of glad the trolls have their own trolls.
hovercraft
SFAW
@Mike E:
I think “shomi” and “Shomi” are two different persons, just as “Srv” does not seem to be “srv.”
Just a guess on my part.
Mike E
@SFAW: You’re probably right…oh well. The church lady routine with the bunched up britches made me snicker every now and then
Major Major Major Major
@hovercraft: Wow! a troll banned AND good polling news!
@SFAW: The capital letters are troll trolls.
SFAW
@hovercraft:
That would be an unexpectedly good thing. Sam Wang has Blunt up by 4, as of a few hours ago, however.
It looks like Catherine Cortez Masto is also doing OK in NV. Let’s hope things stay that way
Eric U.
all talk of trolling aside, twitter is saying that there is more oppo to drop that will kill Trump’s chances even more deader than they already are. As in his supporters will not be able to stomach it. Can’t even imagine what that might be. Hell, raping a 13 y.o. didn’t do it.
a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)
@Redshift: My areas of interest on Twitter consist of People who do History, People who write books, People I know and find interesting and agreeable, People who do historic clothing & needlework, and People involved in classical studies. Plus a little politics. It’s easy to filter out shit I don’t want, or just slide past it if I’m not up for an incursion by herds of Drama Llamas.
Major Major Major Major
@Eric U.: Hasn’t twitter been saying that for days now?
Anne Laurie
@Eric U.:
Twitter is full of optimists. The Big Scary Rumor, as far as I can tell, is that there’s a recording of Trump using the n-word, which Don swears he has never done.
I see two problems with that theory: One, while Trump has undoubtably expressed many ‘un-PC’ comments about people of color, that particular word is on the shortlist of Really Bad Swears even for people like Trump. Just as he’s said lots of horrible things about women, individually & collectively, without ever using the c-word, I suspect Trump (who is notoriously mealy-mouthed about ‘swearing’) has enough of an internal censor not to spout the n-word.
Second problem, of course, is that many of Trump’s supporters would actually applaud if he went there. It would shake loose the remaining “decent GOP voters”, but at this point, how many of those actually plan to vote for him?
I’m sure Hillary’s team has something planned for tomorrow, but I think it’ll be more like the Alicia Machado moment — putting out something relatively innocuous that will bait Trump into rage-storming and damaging himself in the present.
SFAW
@efgoldman:
“srv” is sometimes funny, at least, although I’m not disagreeing with your comment/assessment.
I thought I had seen “Shomi” once or twice, but I could be suffering from CRS.
Prescott Cactus
@hovercraft: When the walls come tumbling down, the walls. . .
by John Mellencamp.
Glorious !
Steeplejack
@efgoldman:
Capital-s Shomi shows up less frequently than Srv but bears the same relationship to shomi.
We also have, or have had in the past, Cervantes and cervantes, but there was no trolling or linkage there.
Case-sensitive nyms are not a good thing, in my opinion. FYWP.
SFAW
@Anne Laurie:
I agree re: your third paragraph.
I’m torn between thinking that the supposed “bombshell” will be something in which he expresses his tremendous admiration for Hillz (because doing so would turn off his base) and something like his actual tax returns (which show that he’s an actual thousandaire).
Of course, if the above two are wrong, maybe it’s a vid of him shooting Alex Jones in Reno, just to watch him die.
Another Scott
@SFAW: Trump already said (in 2008, IIRC) that he thought Hillary would be a “great president”. Nobody cares.
Almost nothing Trump says or said in the past matters any more. Anyone paying the slightest attention knows who and what Trump is. If they’re voting for him, it’s because they’ve rationalized away those things in favor of something else.
Cheers,
Scott.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Major Major Major Major: Srv is too busy ‘Making America Chaff Again”*.
*His mom quite changing his Depends.
Prescott Cactus
@SFAW: I’m hoping for some sort of Trifecta of your third paragraph. Winner takes all.
Eric U.
using the ‘n’ word wouldn’t phase his supporters at all at this point. Just more anti-pc, telling it like it is talk from their hero. I have always suspected that he doesn’t use it much, he’s the sort of guy that goes for horribly racist stereotypes. And if that is the bombshell, he’ll blame it on rap lyrics.
I think the previous oppo that was supposed to sink him was all the women that had been groped. Didn’t actually fizzle, but didn’t peel off his supporters.
Steeplejack (phone)
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Dude. “Chafe.” You’ve still got time to fix it.
Major Major Major Major
@Eric U.: Might help turn out more of the Dem base. Latino turnout is ++important this year.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Eric U.:
Dude. “Faze.” You’ve still got time to fix it.
SFAW
@Prescott Cactus:
And I’m hoping I wake up with a full head of hair.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Steeplejack (phone): Nope, don’t got time anymore.
BillinGlendaleCA
Target suspended the selling clown masks! I’ll give them more of my bidness.
jl
Alaska might go Democratic, in part due to Trump campaign mistakes?
TPM has it toss up with Trump +1.7,
Johnson and Stein seem to have a lot more support there than in other states, but they have been declining and most of their support seems to be going to Hillary.
And, I see in news that the Trump campaign managed to miss a deadline and his name won’t be in the state voter guide sent out to households.
Cool.
I wonder what sinister global conspiracy pulled that off that dirty trick?
Trump Left Off Official Alaska Voter Guide After Missing Deadline
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-left-off-alaska-voter-guide
GregB
Trump dropping the N-bomb has become the reverse Michelle Obama whitey tape.
Botsplainer
@Adam L Silverman:
Yup – that’s where I’m at on him.
Ian
@Adam L Silverman:
I agree with much of this, but your comment comes off as “domestic terrorism is bad, domestic terrorism against LEOs is worse”. Our law enforcement peeps take their jobs knowing this risk can occur.
Frankensteinbeck
@efgoldman:
Small letter srv is a performance art troll dedicated to finding the most bewildering nonsense it can get someone to fight about. Trump has been a gold mine. Capitol Srv is a parody troll mocking a performance art troll, which is ‘hallucinogenic’ levels of meta.
Patricia Kayden
@lamh36: You may have to stop reading progressive blogs then. We already have Democrats fundraising to rebuild a Republican office so the “be nice to the losing bigots” admonition can’t be too far away.
Anne Laurie
@Ian:
They do, indeed. On the other hand, violence against LEOs has become a sacrilegious act in the eyes of many Americans; you or I may feel that’s not sensible, but that’s an argument for a different arena, yes?
msb
FLOTUS was right. It’s time to say “Enough!” to this, as well as misogyny and racism.
EriktheRed
@lamh36:
You’re not the only one feeling that way:
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2016/10/yeah-sorry-but-fuck-donald-trumps.html
Joel
Question, barring legal action, couldn’t a bunch of these vehement nazis be doxxed? At the very least, named and shamed. Maybe make them unemployable. Then we can discuss economic anxiety.
Joel
@Eric U.: The only thing that would do him in is a “Face in the Crowd” moment. God knows that Trump knows his depolorables are worthless. If someone has caught that on tape, then it’s all over.
Jesse
@Patricia Kayden: I don’t mind pitching in to rebuild an office; that’s just “sportsmanship”, as wacky as that notion is in this context. Any Republican who wants to come be a decent American with us is welcome, as far as I’m concerned, and I still believe there are some. I believe those people are wrong on some key issues, as it happens.
I have no intention of coddling bigots anymore, ever. And the “Trump voter” is a bigot. This idea that they’re all closet Sanders voters who are dying to enact a hardcore socialist political program is ridiculous. They’re bigots. They say so, often and loudly. And I hear them.
aimai
@Lizzy L: Well, he’s got a LOT to answer for, then.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
The neo nazis “first in line for the camp”
What camp would that be pal? The Soviet gloag in 1946m were most of the SS died in? Don’t these idiots realize the NAZIs lost, badly, and because they were damn idiots?
Barbara
@hovercraft: Kander is way more conservative than I am but he is one of several candidates who, if things turn the right way, could make the Senate better than 50/50. NC and IN are the two other states where things could turn out well for the Senate. Fingers crossed.
SFAW
@Frankensteinbeck:
A demented part of me wants to create a nym/nom “SRV” so that I can become an uber-parody-troll mocking a parody troll who’s mocking a performance art troll. But that’s a little too
fucked upmeta for me.Adam L Silverman
@Ian: That wasn’t the intention. Rather that given the (sort of) unique combination of pressures currently building within the socio-political space in the US, that uniformed military and law enforcement may become significant targets because their uniforms make them easily identifiable should they fail to conform to the fantasies that those who believe we need a revolution/rebellion have and the expectations they have for the military and law enforcement to either undertake this for them or to assist them with it.
Parfigliano
@Adam L Silverman: Let the oath keepers eat each other. Cleans up the gene pool
JR in WV
@lamh36:
OH, right, now you’re expecting the Trump family to be consistent?
I don’t think so!
;-)
JR in WV
@Adam L Silverman:
That’s great to hear. I hope that attitude is common to all state and local police departments. While we do criticize these law enforcement orgs at times [ because like all human groups, they mess up at times, and even double down on the same mistake again, sometimes ] they really do usually perform as needed in times of crisis.
There are exceptions, but they are exceptions, which is a good thing.
And thanks for your analytical reports on this kind of thing! It helps those of us who really should have a xanax script for this kind of long drawn out affair out a good bit.