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CLINTON
To women: You can do anythingTRUMP
To women, you can do anything— Rebecca Piazza (@heybecks) October 13, 2016
Apart from placing odds on the contents of today’s Trump trash dump, what’s on the agenda as we wrap up the week?
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Intriguing that Obama is arguing Trump is a true reflection of the GOP rather than an anomaly, contra Clinton in her Aug. alt right speech.
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) October 14, 2016
This speech will make it harder for Republican pols to distance from Trump. "Oh, so you're with Obama?"
This is his objective.
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) October 14, 2016
I think approach is HRC/BO gave politicians benefit of doubt to show reasonable R voters they’d stand up to Trump/deplorables, R pols failed https://t.co/V4UiCG4eC1
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) October 14, 2016
rikyrah
Good Morning ?, Everyone ?
RedDirtGirl
I don’t get that first tweet…
JGabriel
@RedDirtGirl:
Colon vs. comma changes the meaning. With a colon, Hillary is telling women they can do anything. With a comma, Trump is saying he can do anything to women.
(I had to study it a few seconds to figure it out too. The typographical and semantic differences between the colon and comma don’t leap out at first glance.)
Truegster
@RedDirtGirl: Hillary is addressing women telling them that they can do anything. Trump is saying you can do anything you want to a woman. Very clever way to make the colon comma distinction important.
bemused
Does the Donald dye his own hair? It’s blinding neon yellow seeing him from yesterday rally.
MomSense
@bemused:
We’ll never know because no professional is going to admit to it.
Amir Khalid
How low can Trump go? I’m starting to suspect there’s no bottom to his baseness.
bemused
@MomSense:
True. I certainly wouldn’t.
Kay
That’s interesting. They know a lot by now so I bet he has something to back that up and it’s against the conventional wisdom, right?
One of the nice things about the Obama people in 2008 and 2012 was they told the truth about numbers and chances to local people. The Kerry campaign were more about keeping the thing in control of the professionals, which is partly why there were conspiracy theories about voting in Ohio on the Left and people were way too confident. The Kerry campaign didn’t trust volunteers with real information.
craigie
Generically true.
HeartlandLiberal
@RedDirtGirl: Well, as my first career, I studied Germanic linguistics, and linguistics and language in general. One of the most fascinating things I remember learning was the phrase “intonation is morphemic”. This means that whether or not a structural element in a word or sentence receives voice emphasis during pronunciation of the words can change the meaning of the word. or sentence A morpheme is defined as the minimal meaningful language unit. What the tweet shows is the fact that, in this case, punctuation is morphemic.
The semi colon versus the comma entirely changes the meaning of the sentence. Clinton is telling women they can do anything. Trump is telling women he can do anything to them.
Here is a nice post illustrating how intonation changes on selected words changes the entire meaning of sentences: http://www.englishbaby.com/lessons/4771/member_submitted/how_intonation_changes_meaning.
OzarkHillbilly
@Amir Khalid: The deepest depths of the oceans could not contain his lowness.
Kay
Clinton’s really the best opponent for Democrats against Trump. She’s much tougher than he is and I’m not sure that would be true of a lot of Democrats. He hasn’t gotten to her at all- not one bit.
Schlemazel
Be prepared for November 9th, on that day we will learn that Trump was never a conservative, that he really was a Democrat, you know he ran for POTUS as a Dem, right?
Back in the 60s I heard a song called “I Was Not a Nazi Polka” it made fun of Germans who suddenly had no idea there were any Nazis in their country and didn’t know what you were talking about.
MattF
@Kay: Yeah, Hillz has seen it and heard it all before, for the past 25 years, at least.
balconesfault
“Intriguing that Obama is arguing Trump is a true reflection of the GOP rather than an anomaly, contra Clinton in her Aug. alt right speech.”
It seems that Obama is arguing that Trump is a reflection of what the GOP has been willing to tolerate in their midst in order to keep their anti-governing coalition in the majority in the House and Senate. Hillary’s alt right speech was a call out for the non-racists in the party who have pretended to not hear the dog whistles to see who they’re in bed with.
satby
Good morning!@rikyrah:
And to everyone! First frost here in Michiana, and the fall colors have slowly been brightening up. Should be a nice week of mild autumn weather ahead. That and the impending end of this election season has me feeling pretty good.
Baud
@Kay: Agreed. She’s been remarkably steady. Few have that ability.
Schlemazel
@Kay:
I noticed in his FL speech a lot of “poor me, I have sacrificed so much and suffered so greatly to save you people”. The clown really does believe he is the massiah
BillinGlendaleCA
@bemused: Sometimes it looks green.
Kay
He’s his father’s son:
I get a huge kick out of the destruction of the Trump brand. That fraud went on too long anyway. “Billion dollar deals”. Guffaw.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Kay: Joe of the Morning and panel were saying the President would be 20 points ahead of Trump as opposed to Hillary only being up 7.
Lounger
I’m ecstatic to see the Democrats making their pivot. Obama last night:
Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes!
I confess I was probably leaning toward the position that the party should’ve advanced this line during the convention rather than reaching out to “reasonable Republicans”. But I’m giddy imagining the effect this attack will have now that their opponent is irredeemably weakened.
bemused
Other than Trump winning election which isn’t going to happen, my next worst nightmare would be if all of our neighbors were Trumpers that adore the guy. We live in a rural area but neighbors are not wide apart. Years ago we had one nutjob next door that was a mean old white guy that would most certainly be a Trump fan if he was alive today. Every neighbor was ecstatic when he sold the house and moved far away.
I’m guessing most Trumpers that go to Trump rallies are neighbors from hell.
bemused
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Give it a little time and it will be green again.
BillinGlendaleCA
@satby: We have a cool weekend(mid 70’s) and then back up to the mid 90’s mid-week.
Kay
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Oh, sure. There’s a cottage industry around diminishing anything Hillary Clinton does and making it somehow less-than.
Have they explained why they basically ran a PAC for Donald Trump for 6 months? I hope that media outlet isn’t a sewer of cretins molesting women like FOX is. I might need to see everyone’s emails.
Baud
@BillinGlendaleCA:
@Kay:
Remember that time a few years ago when they were all “I wish Obama were more like Bill Clinton.”
Kay
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Mika should apologize for kissing Trump’s ass in her role as “advocate for women” if only because it damages her personal brand. Big career blunder on her part. I wouldn’t be attending any of her “success” seminars if I were a young woman. She makes bad bets.
Botsplainer
Really missing Mike Royko now – he’d have had a field day with Trump.
Luthe
@MomSense: Even if they were willing to admit it, I’m sure the NDA they had to sign prevents them from talking.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Yup, good times.
Kay
@BillinGlendaleCA:
I was thinking about Morning Joe as an organization. Isn’t it a little backward and archaic to have a panel of men and then one girl sidekick? That’s like 1970’s era.
These people aren’t sophisticated at all. They’re more rigidly conventional than our Rotary Club.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Kay: Meeka’s not there today, off in “The South of France”.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Kay: They have Katty Kay there today and they often have Nicolle Wallace there as well, but it’s mainly doods there. At least Halperin wasn’t there today.
JMG
I’m going to ask this every day until you all stop. Why do you torture yourselves watching Morning Joe? Do something happier and more productive with your wake-up process.
Iowa Old Lady
I love a good punctuation joke.
BillinGlendaleCA
@JMG: I like to see what the other side in talking about, I don’t wake to it. I’m getting ready for bed.
rikyrah
@Kay:
I actually listened to part of Ferret Head’s speech yesterday. It turned my stomach. Nothing but a bunch of hate. I know that is who he is, but it was jarring to hear it, and the cheers from the deplorables.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Oh, and he is tripling down on the Hillary should be locked up banana republic nonsense.
Jeffro
@Botsplainer: Royko was a real gem…somewhere up in heaven, he, Molly Ivins, and Art Buchwald are smacking their foreheads, wondering why they couldn’t have had this much material to work with while they were here on Earth.
Iowa Old Lady
@Schlemazel: FOX will put a D after Trump’s name in the chryon
rikyrah
@satby:
We are getting the Fall weather, and that is OK. I ordered my Winter coat this week. Will look for boots this weekend.
Comrade Scrutinizer
@Kay: Mika’s brand. That’s all you need to know about Mika’s brand. And what’s all the obsession with “brand” these days? What’s wrong with reputation, integrity, and credibility? Do we need to reduce every fucking thing to marketability?
rikyrah
@Kay:
Tell it, Kay. You and lamh are making the same point.
germy
Sam Altman is one of those extremely young tech billionaires who’s been trying to encourage young people to vote. Came up with something called VotePlz.
In nine swing states he’s providing them with registration forms and stamps. By Election Day, VotePlz’s app will call an Uber to take them to the polls.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Comrade Scrutinizer: You know the phase, “If you can’t do, teach”? If you’ve got nothing(reputation, integrity, and credibility), brand the fiction.
craigie
Ferret Head and the Deplorables
The name of a band I will never go see.
Comrade Scrutinizer
@Jeffro: Nixon, Agnew, Dailey, Mitchell – – Royko did okay.
Matt McIrvin
The title of this Politico article is “Swing-state Republicans rally around Trump”, but it’s really about swing-state Republican Party officers desperately digging in, trying to turn this around.
hueyplong
This is your daily reminder that it’s a good thing our presidential selection process lasts forever. The nasty, fetid soul of Trump has been laid bare, and there are still more than 3 weeks left for him to get to the point where he delivers an actual Downfall rant for all to see.
More than three weeks to prove beyond doubt that Trump never harms his enemies, but totally destroys his “friends”/lickspittles.
Comrade Scrutinizer
@BillinGlendaleCA: I “did” just fine, and now I’m teaching what I did. I really dislike that throw away.
Jeffro
Good morning everyone.
I saw last night that Tbogg was congratulating Drive-By Truckers for having a Black Lives Matter banner up on stage; also happened to see that Jason Isbell is apparently catching some of that ‘shut up and sing’ nonsense from folks on the right who like good music, but aren’t fond of having to think. Springsteen is of course the king of this sort of thing since he’s been around quite a while and been vocal about his political leanings for almost as long. Any given day you can check out his Facebook page and laugh yourself silly at some folks’ comments…they just can’t seem to enjoy “Born to Run” anymore (cue violins)
It does say something about the right-wing mindset that not even music/art that appeals to them on some other level can break through, or cause even a moment’s reflection. Nothing seems to spark any empathy; nothing causes them to turn a situation around 180 degrees and try to see what these folks are singing about. No wonder they prefer Ted Nugent and Kid Rock…no danger of thinking, there.
So anyway, good on DBTs and Isbell and Springsteen (and hey Nobel prize winner Bob Dylan, too!) for fighting the good fight while giving us some great music. If you all haven’t already checked out “American Band” by the Drive-By Truckers, you really should…they’re firing on all cylinders, that’s for sure.
OzarkHillbilly
@JMG: I’m going to ask this until you stop: Why do you torture yourself over others enjoyment of ridiculing the nearly meaningless Morning Ho?
BillinGlendaleCA
@Comrade Scrutinizer: I was going to qualify that, but I knew it would annoy you.
Uncle Cosmo
@Schlemazel:
Aleta
-Daily News
PS At least 3 other items about Trump lies and behavior have also appeared today.
Matt McIrvin
@Kay:
Ooh, I know, they could instead have a bunch of women (in short dresses) and one guy in the middle and have a title commenting on how freaky it is, like “Outnumbered”! Progress!
BillinGlendaleCA
@Aleta: Trump’s big on promising money to charity; actually writing the check, not so much. Remember his “benefit” for veterans on the USS Iowa?
OzarkHillbilly
A photo essay, well worth the trip.
Comrade Scrutinizer
@BillinGlendaleCA: lol
MattF
@hueyplong: I agree. A Presidential campaign reveals what you need to know about a candidate– it’s long, difficult, and arduous, and so we get a look at how candidates deal with tough and difficult problems that won’t go away.
p.a.
tRump/R’s found themselves in a hole, dropped their shovel, then climbed into a backhoe. Keep digging guys.
debbie
@JGabriel:
It was a whole lot easier to understand Sousa’s tweet in the previous thread, unfortunately. Bastard.
JPL
There’s a question that hasn’t been asked, why hasn’t Russia released emails relating to Trump and/or the republican party. I assume that they are holding those, to use to blackmail Trump, if he wins.
debbie
@Kay:
Oh please, Universe, let Trump break down in tears in the middle of a speech. It would ameliorate all the pain of having had to witness this political season.
Baud
@debbie: I think Clinton is saving that for the next debate.
workworkwork
Day 2 post-hospital.
Overall things are going okay. I’m able to get in and out of bed without as much trouble as I thought. (Our bed is lower than the hospital one and it’s adjustable).
Still not quite back to a normal sleeping schedule which I suppose is understandable. Just taking it as it goes for now, napping when I feel like it.
Moving at about half speed which forces me to notice what’s going on around me even more.
Need to get out later and pick up some fresh veggies and salad fixings. I’ve set out my smaller cooking appliances (electric wok and multi-cooker ) so they’re convenient and I’m not just microwaving things.
Good news – after much sniffing and pacing, our female kitty Emma finally decided to accept me. A while later, Henry, who had been holding back, climbed up on my lap and gave me a few head bumps and rubbed against my seventeen day beard so he’s okay with me now as well. (I didn’t want to tell him I’m shaving today.)
OzarkHillbilly
@MattF: @hueyplong: I have to disagree. We all knew exactly who Trump is and what he stood for by the end of his announcing his candidacy. Hell, if you had paid any attention to him, you knew long before that. What we did not know was just how low, how completely lacking in principles of any kind, the Republican party had become.
I for one thought they still had a last shriveled remnant of a soul. They don’t.
Jeffro
@MattF:
They were calling her a sulfur-smelling demon long before Obama arrived on the scene.
debbie
@JMG:
We need reminders how stupid the other side is. I have the day off and I plan on listening to Glenn Beck, just to hear his tears.
Jeffro
@OzarkHillbilly:
I thought they had a soul, and that at least a few of them had some smarts…when a Donald Trump takes over your party, it’s time to start a new party.
Every one of these clowns who thought they’d be able to finesse his, um, shortcomings until Nov 9th has demonstrated they need to be doing something much less cognitively demanding…
Matt McIrvin
@Kay: It’s an interesting change from him talking about the nice retirement he was going to have when this was over, the last time he was way down in the polls.
OzarkHillbilly
@workworkwork: Good to hear.
TS
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Mika is hiding from Michelle Obama’s speech – showed up the true face of women who have been support the GOP nominee
Brachiator
Love that “to women you can do anything” contrast. Going to be a very busy day today. Will try to make time to laugh at the inevitable Trump stupidity du jour.
Baud
@TS: Good point.
Currants
@JGabriel: (I had to study it a few seconds to figure it out too. The typographical and semantic differences between the colon and comma don’t leap out at first glance.)
…unless you taught writing, and then you just laughed out loud because every single one of your students will have gotten that point instantly. ;-)
JPL
@workworkwork: That is good news. Please take care!
raven
bystander
Lately, the best thing about Moanin’ Joe is the barrage of Humira commercials and various other deadly medications. Far more interesting than anything Joe has to say.
p.a.
We’ve all joked about Peak Wingnut, but did we really understand that
=> Peak Wingnut = fascism? We do now.
Patricia Kayden
@Aleta: Trump got government money based on the 9/11 terrorist attacks. So not only didn’t he donate to charity, he benefited from 9/11.
workworkwork
@Comrade Scrutinizer: Marketing is a lot easier and doesn’t have to be based on anything real?
hueyplong
@bystander: Political cable shows are a steady stream of contraindications/warnings intoned over soft-focus, slow motion of people outside in bright sunshine. It seems pretty clear that there is an assumption that no young person watches that type of programming.
JPL
@raven: wtf
workworkwork
@Comrade Scrutinizer: This. I teach because I enjoy it and I’m good at it.
(Feeling a Taylor Mali rant coming on ……)
Patricia Kayden
@raven: Secretary Clinton doesn’t have to steal an election when she’s leading in most national polls and swing state polls. Idiot.
P.S. I wish there was a way to take away ACA benefits from anyone who voted Trump. That’s exactly what they would deserve. Yes, I’m petty.
TS
@Baud: Shame I couldn’t get the grammar correct – but otherwise – first thing I thought of when she wasn’t sitting next to her man this morning.
I also found a link to the tweet when the nominee threatened Joe & Mika – funny how they’ve been on his side ever since. This is how the GOP nominee treats every person he knows. If you think he is a “friend” – you will be proven wrong the minute you say one word of criticism
Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Some day, when things calm down, I’ll tell the real story of @JoeNBC and his very insecure long-time girlfriend, @morningmika. Two clowns!
4:29 AM – 22 Aug 2016
Link to tweet
Baud
@raven: She’s a free rider who depends on the goodness of others like Clinton to sustain her hate.
Patricia Kayden
@JPL: Trump is in the Russians’ pocket so they have no need to release any emails to harm him. Plus, I assume that Russians own a lot of Trump’s foreign debt and that’s why he is always praising Putin and also why he refuses to release his tax returns. The media needs to explore his ties to Russia in more detail.
Iowa Old Lady
@workworkwork: Thanks for checking in. I wondered how you were doing.
GregB
Republican base 2008-2015: We need someone to restore honor and dignity to the White House, we are tired of Obama’s arrogance.
Republican base 2016: Trump!
debbie
@raven:
How is it we’ve become a nation of idiots?
Hal
SNL should feature someone playing Melania but have her character just read Michelle Obama’s speech as the opener this weekend.
hovercraft
@OzarkHillbilly:
My sentiments exactly. I watch to see how stupid Joe of the morning can prove himself to be each morning. Take today for example, bringing Steve Kornacki on to prove to his fellow travelers that there is still a plausible path for the Trumpster to win, polls showing him 6 points down in swing states are his evidence that the race is not over. I enjoy watching him have to beg Steve to agree with him that even though it’s highly unlikely, there’s still a chance.
hovercraft
@Aleta:
Mort Zuckerberg, another real billionaire has no use for Trump. Funny how the people who know him best and are supposedly his ‘peers’ dislike him the most.
Elizabelle
@Hal: Great idea re Melania. Does she wear the “pussy bow”?
She’s a gold digger, but I feel sorry for her, having to reside with Trump. There does not seem to be much warmth between them lately, which we can confirm since Trump told his audience yesterday that their marriage has never been better.
Elizabelle
@Hal: Great idea re Melania. Does she wear the “[kitty cat] bow”?
She’s a gold digger, but I feel sorry for her, having to reside with Trump. There does not seem to be much warmth between them lately, which we can confirm since Trump told his audience yesterday that their marriage has never been better.
(in moderation for speaking of cat fashion)
hovercraft
@BillinGlendaleCA:
This is also the source of a great deal of bitterness for him. When he first came across the river into the City, when he “made it”, he was invited into “society”, but since they are very big on charity, and he swiftly developed a reputation for pledging money at Charity Galas and the like, but never actually handing over the money, he was soon removed from Society guest lists. So despite having made it, he was still on the outside looking in, which is why he switched over to the celebrity scene. He was supposed to be Mr New York, but high society rejected him and his cheap ass gaudy ways. People with real money don’t brag, they give back, a concept he never learned.
StringOnAStick
@OzarkHillbilly: The story of Penguin Bloom is a wonderful one; thanks for that link.
My boss’s 18 year old son became a paraplegic on July 4 this year from a diving accident, and the family is truly struggling, so this story is extremely relevant right now.
hovercraft
@workworkwork:
Welcome back, we were getting worried. Glad to hear you’re on the mend. Relax and nap as much as you can.
OzarkHillbilly
@debbie: What makes you so sure we haven’t always been a nation of idiots?
satby
@workworkwork: glad to hear you’re on the mend!
hueyplong
A mind game to divert us as we await today’s obscenities:
1. Make a list of everyone who strongly supports Trump but is neither being paid by him nor related to him.
2. Ask yourself whether that person is better off today than he/she was on the day that person hitched his/her star to the Trump bandwagon. Is that person’s reputation — in general and not just here on an anti-Trump website — better or worse?
Not too difficult to conclude that you’re better off being his enemy than his friend. And yet, which path did the RNC think was in its own self interest when the unraveling began? None of these people has the judgment to direct the nation’s affairs.
Maybe the Republican Party did us all a favor when it chose pure obstruction over affirmatively promoting anything at all from 2009-now.
Hal
@raven:
Maybe that’s just what she says in public. Or she’s hoping she can vote Trump but he’ll still lose.
Chris
Interesting point indeed. I wonder which is more effective. My gut wants to see Trump tied to the GOP, but the Clinton strategy of driving a wedge further and further between Republican elites and voters has a lot to recommend it. On the other hand, Republicans have made it very clear that they’re trying to write off Trump as some exceptional freak accident with nothing at all tying him to the rest of the party so they can disassociate themselves from him completely after the election and return to the illusion that they’re a “normal” party that’s not racist, sexist, nativist, homophobic, authoritarian and completely out of control. That’s not something they should be allowed to get away with.
hovercraft
@debbie:
Glen Beck is fortunately/ unfortunately, not on the cray cray train this year, but since he helped sow the seeds, may he wallow in the fruits of his labor as he watches his party tear it’s self apart.
Keith P.
Haha, Trump’s going to go after Carlos Slim today. After the election, DJT is going to have a serious reckoning to deal with. Now he’s pissing off *real* billionaires – the kind that can buy and sell him without so much as a second thought.
Jeffro
Mike Pence on CBS this morning just a bit ago: “I don’t understand the basis” for Michelle Obama’s condemnation of Trump.
Remember back when GOP VP picks simply couldn’t spell “potato”, or name a few newspapers they read?
satby
@debbie: don’t DO that to yourself! ?
SenyorDave
@GregB: Republican base 2008-2015: We need someone to restore honor and dignity to the White House, we are tired of Obama’s arrogance.
Republican base 2016: Trump!
Also, remember that Obama disgraced presidency by wearing blue jeans in the Oval Office. I’m sure Trump will wear a nice suit and tie while he sexually assaults women in the Oval Office.
TS
@hovercraft:
I noticed on CNN map a few days ago they had Hillary at 268 electoral votes (can’t find it today), RCP has Hillary at 256, Fox has 205
They are all living somewhere outside of the real world
mike in dc
Aside from the deplorables, I think the best descriptor for the rest of Trump’s base: recalcitrant. No matter how much evidence you present for the godawfulness of Trump, it is an article of faith that somehow Clinton must still be worse. It’s that 30 years of brainwashing.
Applejinx
@JPL: Here’s a thought. How likely is it, that Trump talking to Russian banker pals would talk acres of shit about all the American pols, Democrat or Republican alike, not caring if he was being recorded or transcribed so long as he had the attention?
Explains a lot about Republicans not abandoning Trump. They’ve been sold out, bigtime. Trump dished all the dirt, quite happily, to a foreign intelligence apparatus that is fully capable of using it.
Not because he consciously planned to be a spy, but because he’s Trump and that’s what he does all the fucking time, with no awareness of his surroundings, of consequences, of anything so long as there’s cocaine and delighted, worshipful listeners.
If you’re a Russian spymaster you’re GOOD at coaxing out information through fair means and foul. Imagine the disgusted, thrilled amazement when they learned all you have to do is flatter the motherfucker and feed him drugs and he will spill literally everything. Easiest job ever.
OzarkHillbilly
@Jeffro: Why am I not surprised?
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Kay: Hillary just by her gender is a perfect foil against Trump – turns all his macho bravado that was going so well in the primaries into being just a crude, sexist Neanderthal.
Iowa Old Lady
@Hal: This is your brain trying to make sense of something that makes no sense.
Sab
@Kay: my moderate Republican (party of Lincoln) mother passed away a few years ago. I miss her every day but I am so happy that she did not live to see this.
debbie
@satby:
Luckily, I don’t have time to listen to the entire show, just his opening rant, which began with his saying that FLOTUS’s speech was the most effective political speech he’d heard in years. Of course, he then went into how it was all a staged set-up (four camera angles, etc.). I must admit, the anti-Trump ranting is irresistible.
debbie
@OzarkHillbilly:
No idea, really, other than the country’s lasted this long.
JPL
@Applejinx: Putin wants to weaken NATO, in order to expand their borders. It’s apparent that Trump is their man to do so. I assume that they have some damning evidence that would prevent the US from retaliation.
I have concerns that there will be a successful attack on our navy vessel near Yemen, before the election. ugh.. yes I’m paranoid
hovercraft
Waiting at the elevator this morning:
Some Guy: We don’t need a Labor Department, there shouldn’t be a Department of Health and Human Services.
Everyone else just looks down up, straight ahead.
Same Guy: I’m a Libertarian, there’s no need for all the government bureaucracy, I’m going to run for office as a democrat. Can’t run as a republican, war. I’ve been a democrat since I was 18.
Everyone else where the hell is the elevator?
Same Guy: You know I worked for Barrack, and he’s kept his promises, he got us out of Iraq, he gave us healthcare, he saved the economy, the only thing he failed at is he didn’t get us out of Afghanistan. But yeah he did good, and Michelle is hot as hell. But it’s over now and all we have is Hillary or Trump. Three weeks and three days and then it’s over, there spending is going to explode. That’s why I’m a libertarian.
The elevator arrives.
Same Guy: I’m on permanent disability, so I don’t have to work.
Irony is dead. This guy was a white, totally looked like a dudebro, with the long hair and scruffy appearance, he looked to be in his late thirties forty max, he’s bitching about government spending, as he collects disability.Sigh.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@p.a.:
Actually if they truly loony out they will end up Communist, much the same way NeoCons went from Communists to Fascists.
Elizabelle
I like the Toles cartoon. Good choice.
I think Trump is going to be in legal trouble the rest of his life, after his failed run for the White House.
Botsplainer
@SenyorDave:
Dunno where he gets those shapeless blue bags he wears, but they look like they come from the clearance rack at a men’s suit discounter.
hovercraft
@Jeffro:
Pence has shown time and time again why he wrestled the title of dumbest man in congress back and forth with dear old Louie Gohmert.
Jeffro
@hovercraft: Libertarian = everything will still run just fine even if there’s no one enforcing laws or paying for public services because freedumb.
I’m surprised no one asked the dudebro where he thought his disability checks came from.
BellyCat
@Amir Khalid:
The depths to which Drumpf will sink are equal to the heights his actions elicit from his base.
Likely only the “dead girl or live boy” standard meets this bar.
hovercraft
@Jeffro:
He was trying to get someone to engage him in conversation, he kept looking at our faces, but I guess no one was in the mood, we all avoided making eye contact.
JPL
@Elizabelle: Don’t forget that Trump’s win would insure a get out jail card for Christie also.
O. Felix Culpa
@HeartlandLiberal: Hey! I studied German in my first career too, although weighted more towards literature than linguistics. Then I did other things to earn a living.
Mit herzlichen Grüßen!
Fair Economist
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Some poller did look at that. Obama *was* ahead of Hillary – by ONE point.
The problem is crazy Republicans.
catclub
@Kay:
OTOH, the generic happier, more optimistic candidate wins. Trump versus Sanders might have been interesting on that axis.
O. Felix Culpa
@OzarkHillbilly:
Oh yes, it’s beautiful! And who’s cutting onions in my living room?
catclub
@Applejinx: All fine, except Trump doesn’t know ANYTHING. Less useful information than Curveball was to George Bush.
ruemara
@raven: I wish she could live in a reality where he does take her Obamacare.
dww44
@mike in dc: Somebody here linked to Sam Wang’s Princeton site yesterday and it had Clinton also at 268. Still had several states in battleground status.
Chris
@hovercraft:
Well. Ideally, yes.
Tenar Darell
@Botsplainer: heh. Yeah he wears top of the line designer suits like they’re feed sacks. He’s basically wearing the wrong suits, & not working with the body he has now as 70 year old.
This “You can’t interrupt your clothes, can you?” from Jezebel’s interview with a Savile Row master tailor about his suits made me laugh because one of my most memorable moments when I was in retail clothing was a customer insisting on buying party clothes that were essentially wearing them. They got the expert advice & went with it’s opposite. It taught me that some people will ask for “expertise,” but then bend over backwards to ignore it.
Chris
@Jeffro:
Which makes it oddly like communism: it yearns for a happy self-regulating utopia in which the state has “faded away” and yet all of civilization remains. How the state is supposed to fade away and how civilization is supposed to exist without it is… not entirely clear.
Joel
@bemused: I see them around from time to time. Coal rollers, lots of threatening bumper stickers, super aggressive drivers, probably armed.
fuckwit
keep fucking that chicken.
Skepticat
So you thought Trump supported stop-and-frisk policies for police? No, they’re so he can grab any woman he wants.
hovercraft
@Chris:
Most do, even the sociopaths like the Koch’s do, even if for no other reason that to get a tax deduction.
BellyCat
@Joel: Anybody else own a hybrid and get “coal-rolled” by hicks in the sticks? Happens to us every now and again and almost always it’s a jacked up pickup truck. Confederate flag in rear window optional.
Joel
@BellyCat: I don’t own a hybrid but I’ve gotten coal-rolled anyways. A lot of those guys will do that to just about anyone if they deem that they can.
catclub
@hovercraft:
Yes, a lot of too much information in talking to strangers.
Walker
@HeartlandLiberal:
When my wife (Polish) was learning English one of the first things that she was amused to learn was that the following two sentences are very different.
The neighbors are friendly.
The neighbors are being friendly.
WaterGirl
@OzarkHillbilly: Her work reminds me of some breathtaking photos that were online in the past 5 years – maybe some woman in Russia who took a lot of photos of her son? They were amazing, I thought I had saved a link somewhere but i can’t seem to find it.
WaterGirl
@workworkwork: Sending kitty scritches to Emma and Henry. I’ll bet it’s a comfort to be finally welcomed home by them.
And thanks for the progress report, sending good thoughts your way.
Miss Bianca
@hovercraft: It’s so unaware, I’d almost be tempted to call it performance art, but with white dudebros you can just never been sure that they really AREN”T that clueless.
@O. Felix Culpa: How was the HRC rally? Did you end up going?
WaterGirl
@BillinGlendaleCA: Interesting that Mika isn’t there. Some people here yesterday that she looked terribly upset during a segment of Morning Joe where the guys were talking about the sexual predator conspiracy. Three weeks before the election seems like an odd time to be gone.
Unrelated to that, I was comforted yesterday to read that we still have 100 days of the Obama presidency. Now that we are down to 99 and just double digits, I have tears in my eyes.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Botsplainer:
I’ve wondered for a long time why the wealthy Mr Trump, who can certainly afford bespoke tailoring, always wears such awful-looking clothes. By chance, I came upon this article, nicely illustrated, which explains it all. Jezebel link.
(The explanatory tailor, btw, is probably one of our own Tom Levenson’s numerous and very gifted
Sebag-Montefiore cousins.)
ETA: Obviously commented before seeing #140! Sorry, Tenar!
Kay
Cretin. Has he noticed yet that no one else talks like this? No presidential candidate talks about themselves this much and none of them ever have?
My poll numbers, my debates, my crowds, my feelings, my money, my children. He’s unbearable.
JR in WV
@workworkwork:
It’s so good to hear from you, and that you’re doing better. People have been asking in the B-J threads, have you head from work3 yet? and always the answers I saw were no, not yet.
Glad the kitties are loving up to you, that always cheers me up no matter what. Take care and move slowly.
You might check to see if there’s a community kitchen project locally, like Meals on Wheels, because it sounds like you would qualify as temporarily disabled. Hospital social work office might be a help there. They helped us out after Mrs J had been in hospital with septic shock for awhile.
We’re all pulling for you to do well~!!