Creamsicle Meltdown

New PRRI research released today shows Trump on the losing end of a historic gender gap:


As expected, non-whites favor Clinton over Trump by huge margins (72% vs. 17%), but Clinton is also annihilating Trump among white women with a college degree (68% to 29%), and even white women without a degree are split 40%-40% between Clinton and Trump. The findings can be read in full here.

Meanwhile, the incomparable Sam Bee weighed in on PussyGate and presidential debate #2. The whole show was fabulous, but here’s a clip:

Samantha Bee called presidential debate #2 a “grotesque travesty of democracy.” Pretty much! As I mentioned yesterday, many of us lady folk were angry and disgusted at the spectacle of a qualified woman like Hillary Clinton being stalked and insulted by hirsute walking Roofie.

Bee says Trump knows he’s losing and is therefore prepared to “suicide-bomb” the election. If Trump’s Twitter output this morning is any indication, Bee is dead right about that:

Uh-oh. He’s shaking out the Tic Tacs right now and limbering up the stubby orange fingers. It’s time to protect your pussy, America! C’mon ladies — and allies of all genders! Let’s knee this sleazy shitbag in the groin and step over his bloated carcass into history!

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    knees to the groin are not debilitating — stomp on the instep of the foot, downwards strike on the bridge of the nose and then a knee to the groin for good measure — if we’re going to beat fascists and authoritarians, let’s do it right.

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    different-church-lady says:

    Yes, Donald, the whole problem the whole time was there wasn’t enough you being you. You roll with that.

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    Fester Addams says:

    He seems not to know who the leader of the Republican party is. (It’s not house speaker Ryan, it’s him.)

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    jeffreyw says:

    I’m seeing some Trumpsters calling for a boycott of down ticket races. That is something to be encouraged. It will show that RINO Ryan that he can’t mess with the people’s choice candidate!

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    Alain the site fixer says:

    He scares me so I’m happy that the steady news and trend is people disavowing him and declaring they’ll vote for either Hillary or someone else. I think Cruz was the last man onboard the SS Shitshow and folks are leaving the boat. That’s a trend I can believe in, but ye gods, I cannot wait until Nov 9!

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    dmsilev says:

    I give it until Thursday, maybe Friday, before the next horrifying revelation about Trump.

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    Cacti says:

    @Richard Mayhew:

    knees to the groin are not debilitating — stomp on the instep of the foot, downwards strike on the bridge of the nose and then a knee to the groin for good measure — if we’re going to beat fascists and authoritarians, let’s do it right.

    You forgot knife or ridge hand strike across the throat.

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    redshirt says:

    I got to watch Bee’s show last night, very good, very funny, with a bit of sadness slipped in (she mentioned her own experiences with sexual harassment very briefly in a slightly comedic way).

    I can’t believe 17% of POC are supporting Trump. That number should be single digits.

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    sukabi says:

    Here’s hoping this walkng nightmare does himself in with whatever he’s snorting.

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    randy khan says:

    @Alain the site fixer:

    There’s a Slate report on a Pennsylvania rally that has a brief interview with a Pennsylvania State Senator who decided to endorse him *after* the tape came out. I guess her (yes, her) district must be bright red and very pro-Trump.

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    ShadeTail says:


    I can’t believe 17% of POC are supporting Trump. That number should be single digits.

    And the digit in question should be a zero.

    Then again, that should be the number of *any* group’s support for Trump, but it isn’t.

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    SenyorDave says:

    I still hope that Trump drops out and is replaced. Two reasons:

    1. The increasingly small possibility that he wins and the country is imperiled.
    2. I think he and his white nationalist movement is legitimized by his being the GOP candidate.

    I know most think he has no chance and his replacement would have a better chance, but the possibility of a an October surprise/issue, especially terrorism-related, is always there. Besides, if he drops out many of his supporters will write him in, unless he directs them to vote for a candidate of his choice.

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    hedgehog the occasional commenter says:

    Brilliant Sam Bee clip!
    I signed up to do GOTV calls next week after Colorado ballots get in the mail–somewhat terrified, but I’m told I’ll have a script and will be calling Democratic voters, just to make sure they got their ballots and will be mailing them back. I can do this–for her, for the country, for all of us!

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    MattF says:

    It does seem, at least, that the horserace narrative has taken a fatal blow. There were a couple of reports of insta-polls with joyous ‘Trump Won!’ headlines… but then, not so much. And then a little later… even less. At this point, the horserace narrative is at the galvanic frog leg stage; it twitches when you shoot a couple of volts through it, but it’s dead.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @hedgehog the occasional commenter:

    Don’t worry, GOTV calls are super easy even if (like me) you’re an introvert who hates having to call people. You’ll have a list of numbers and a script, and you’ll probably end up mostly leaving messages.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @hedgehog the occasional commenter: I salute you, Hedgehog! Like you said, we must do this for ALL of us, and they really do make it easy.

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    MomSense says:

    Oh der Trump you could actually make America great again if you manage to pull Paul Ryan with you off the cliff.

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    oldster says:

    Thanks for posting Samantha Bee. She is wonderful.

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    hedgehog the occasional commenter says:

    @Mnemosyne: Thanks! I am indeed an introvert, so that is comforting.

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    Poopyman says:


    2. I think he and his white nationalist movement is legitimized by his being the GOP candidate.

    It is …. for white nationalists. For a lot of people it’ll be the opposite – that the GOP is delegitimized for being the face of white nationalism. The big question will be how many is “a lot”.

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    TaMara (HFG) says:

    @Richard Mayhew: SING! Solar plexus, instep, nose, groin!

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @shomi: You can say pussy all you want if you know how. Just like poker.

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    @SenyorDave: I think the white movement is becoming, or perhaps by now simply is, self-legitimizing. This could be good, as the more they are isolated and purified, the closer they come to consisting of 100% them and 0% anything else, the clearer it will be that they are not a supermajority on a national scale. But they will still be a supermajority in the rural areas — and in their own minds.

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    @Richard Mayhew: at my height, it’s a kick to the groin, a knee to the face, hammerfist to the neck/temple, run away.

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    NorthLeft12 says:

    I’m a Canadian, so maybe I am not a good judge of male Americans, but how in Dog’s name can men support Deadbeat/Douchecanoe Donald over Hillary?

    And BTW, I am getting more than a little tired of male right wing sleaze buckets trying to pedal their misogyny and bigotry as normal among men. I had an exchange on FB with a couple of maroons who called the athletes who disputed that men in locker rooms talk like Trump, full of BS. They then upgraded this to Total BS, then Double BS. I told them I would start taking them seriously when they got to Quadruple BS.

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    Wag says:

    The Trump-kraken has been released! Pass the popcorn!

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    hedgehog the occasional commenter says:

    @Betty Cracker: (blush) Thanks, Betty. I’m actually sort of excited about doing it.

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    Barney says:

    The Trump women show how they’ve learnt to protect their pudenda (a word Samantha missed, I think):

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @hedgehog the occasional commenter: I second what Mnem said. The phone calling is far less painful than expected. It’s mostly people not at home, then people who are enthusiastically for HRC (yay!) and occasionally (but very rarely) a hostile response. All is useful information for the campaign (I’m HRC campaign data co-captain for our county, so I work with this daily).

    You’re doing vital work for GOTV, so thank you!

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    MattF says:

    @NorthLeft12: There’s a typical RW argument– ‘I’m only saying what everyone actually believes/says but won’t admit because it’s not PC’. Just false. There’s an ideology buried in there.

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    Tim C. says:

    I said this in an earlier, deserted thread.

    I want an audio clip of Jimmy Carter doing the Mortal Kombat voice saying, “FINISH HIM!!!!”

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    Jeffro says:


    I’m seeing some Trumpsters calling for a boycott of down ticket races. That is something to be encouraged. It will show that RINO Ryan that he can’t mess with the people’s choice candidate!

    That’ll show the Establishment – go for it, Trumpkins! Vote for Trump and no one else. And while you’re at it, Establishment folks will be voting for Johnson, Clinton, maybe even writing in St. Reagan at the top – anyone but Trump. Even assuming GOP turnout is ‘normal’, if each side skips half the ballot, it’ll look like half of ‘normal’, especially compared to a motivated Democratic party.

    What fun…but only if we GOTV like heck…

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    skerry says:

    Another tweet

    User Actions

    Donald J. TrumpVerified account
    Disloyal R’s are far more difficult than Crooked Hillary. They come at you from all sides. They don’t know how to win – I will teach them!

    9:48 AM – 11 Oct 2016

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    O. Felix Culpa says:


    What fun…but only if we GOTV like heck…

    The HRC campaign is taking nothing for granted. Judging by activity in my relatively non-contested neck of the woods, GOTV activities are ramping up fast and furious. I imagine efforts are even greater in the swing states.

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    dmsilev says:


    At this point, the horserace narrative is at the galvanic frog leg stage; it twitches when you shoot a couple of volts through it, but it’s dead.

    Photoshop idea: Pepe the neo-Nazi frog, on the dissecting table with a bunch of electrodes wired into his leg muscles.

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    scav says:

    I’m having trouble visualizing stomping on the instep, I think I’d miss unless we’re talking about the top middle of the foot. (Otherwise I get tangled into Twister non-Euclidean geometries.) Bridge of the nose is easier, while I’m up there, can I go for the eyes?

    ETA: And, Fair Warning. If any single person calls me with that “You’re harder to get in touch with than pickle pickle jar / kid to clean his room” BS I will immediately go off you louder than I did for the call this 8:00 am. Cheesy Lying Bozos.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @skerry: Truly unhinged. There’s not enough popcorn in the world for this, damn it!

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    debit says:

    @skerry: I’m predisposed to find him creepy and threatening, but this tweet just ratcheted up a notch. He will teach them! He’s gonna make them crawl and lick his boots by the time it’s all over! Blech.

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    the Conster, la Citoyenne says:

    Way back in the spring, when it was looking likely to be Trump v. Clinton, I called it. This election was always going to come down to “Daddy’s scary, I want Mommy!” We’re there now.

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    Grumpy Code Monkey says:


    Trump didn’t spring forth de novo – he’s a product of a widespread culture of misogyny and (white) male elitism. He’s not even the most obnoxious example of it. It’s always been there, but now he’s made it “respectable”, so these jackasses are more willing to let their freak flag fly. Same with the white nationalists.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    Eek – either FYWP eated my world-changing comments or I’m in moderation. Please release me from captivity. Thanks!

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    Bubblegum Tate says:

    @randy khan:

    I know a wingnut who did pretty much the same thing. Now, in his case, he was very clearly going to vote Trump come election day, but he was trying to play a little bit of Purer Than Thou while he cast about for a justification (if nothing came up, his justification would’ve been “Because Hillary Clinton!”). Still, it was very odd that this of all things is what he went with. His slogan is basically: “Trump shouldn’t lose for saying bad things; Hillary should lose because she’s a criminal*!” Fuckin’ weird.

    PS: He’s been screaming for years that one of our biggest problems as a nation is that the damn Demmycrats have “coarsened our political culture.” Now he’s voting for Trump. Ha ha! Ha?

    [*actual criminality yet to be discovered]

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    debit says:

    @scav: Try this scene for reference.

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    @scav: eyes are really hard to actually hit, the reflex to not get your eyes gouged out is really strong and quick.

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    shomi says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Word filter would put my Pu”ss”ygate posts in purgatory a couple days ago.

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    Mike in NC says:

    Stop calling Trump’s people white nationalists. They’re white supremacists.

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    Culture of Truth says:

    What a big baby he is. If he couldn’t the Presidency without Paul Ryan carrying him he really is a loser.

    And yes, in phonebanking for Clinton at this point, you’re calling people who were identified (via prior calls in the spring and summer) as voting for Hillary, just reminding them to mail in their ballots or urging to them to vote on election day and get their friends out, etc. Or telling them about a rally in their area, which people get exited about it. It’s fun!

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    Hal says:

    So when’s the N-word tape dropping?

    Also, I have a couple of friends who have been on a social media Facebook tear, making sure everyone knows that BOTH candidates suck! They want everyone to know they haven’t been sucked in to this mess like everyone else, and it’s too bad we aren’t as smart as they are in realizing there are other candidates. I’ve seen comments where they wonder if people even know there are 2 other people to vote for, Um, no. No one but you has heard of Johnson and Stein. I’m glad they are still voting, but the fact that they realize how awful Trump is and talk constantly about how they would never want him as President, but still won’t vote for Hillary Clinton is frustrating.

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    hedgehog the occasional commenter says:

    @O. Felix Culpa: (more blushes) Thanks!

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    amk says:

    you were not at locker room, you sleazy pair of sweat socks, you were at work.

    Boom. Go Sam Bee. The best of TDS.

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    nonynony says:

    @shomi: Still will – FYWP has it on the banned list.

    However if you know the right HTML incantations to utter you can get it to let you post forbidden words. You have to be a 12th level WordPress alchemist or a 9th level Web Wizard to get that special ability though.

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    Hungry Joe says:

    @hedgehog the occasional commenter: Your GOTV calls will be fairly painless — non-Hillary voters have been screened out. The first few hang-ups/angry people will shake you up a little, but there won’t be many and you’ll get used to it.

    I much prefer precinct walking. You do it with a partner, you’re out and about in neighborhoods you knew nothing about, and occasionally you have a really good, positive interaction. And if you pay attention, you can learn stuff. Like, should I ever get some ambition and want to get rich, I can learn how to repair doorbells and go door-to-door offering my services: About a third of them don’t work.

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    @Hal: there’s some of those on every timeline, I suspect. I unfollowed most of mine.

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    randy khan says:

    An interesting data point: Last night I wrote a pretty long “why I’m voting for Hillary (as opposed to voting against Trump)” post on Facebook. I have a moderately mixed group of friends, including some people who have been violently pro-Trump and/or anti-Hillary in the past. So far, I have 35 likes, 3 shares, 11 positive comments and zero negative comments. Since the Trump people have been pretty vocal before, that’s not what I expected. I’m wondering if they’re crawling back into their holes.

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    catclub says:


    I’m seeing some Trumpsters calling for a boycott of down ticket races.

    Somebody else already pointed out the Plum Line today discussing this, combined with other regular GOP voters skipping voting for Trump, as a double fall-off.

    Both supporters of Trump and denouncers of Trump lose. Delicious.

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    catclub says:

    @Hungry Joe:

    how to repair doorbells and go door-to-door offering my services: About a third of them don’t work.

    Maybe to avoid callers?

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    PPCLI says:

    @NorthLeft12: Think about it in terms of people who supported Rob Ford, even after the crack tape, etc. During the time Ford was T.O. mayor I was stunned when my father (Conservative leaning but not an ideologue) reacted wildly when I made some glancing remark about what a maroon Ford was. All this stuff tumbled out — Ford is a “problem solver” but the sneering elite media dump on him, he showed those unions, he’s not all politically correct, etc. There was an emotional fury to it that made it clear that this wasn’t really about Ford, but Ford was a symbol of something darker,…
    And Ford was astonishingly popular even when it was entirely clear he was a dimwitted runaway train.

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    @randy khan: based on my feed and some comments here, a lot of the goopers right now are mewling about how Facebook isn’t the place for politics and can’t we get back to baby pictures.

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    MattF says:

    And Hillz is ready for debate #3. Note, btw, that Jen Rubin contributed a comment to the tweet.

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    hedgehog the occasional commenter says:

    @Hungry Joe: Thanks. I admit it’s the hangups/angry people who worry me, but I have to remember it’s not personal….I’m feeling better about doing it with the information I’m getting. I can do this…

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    @hedgehog the occasional commenter: I admit I don’t answer the phone any more. When you live in a swing state, you get multiple calls every day, and I’ve already voted.

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    Lee says:

    @randy khan:

    Yes. I have a lot of pro-Trump friends in my feed (grew up in the deepest red part of Texas). A significant portion have gone silent or posted ‘I’m going to quit talking politics until this is over’. There are still a very few who post pro-Trump nonsense.

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    Shell says:

    So the ‘shackles’ are off, eh? Just in time for Halloween.

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    hovercraft says:

    Where can I sign up to encourage this. I will phone bank for the Trumpsters to call for this boycott. We must stand firm against these Benedict Arnold’s.

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    scav says:

    @Major Major Major Major: The switch from “America is Falling Apart! It’s a Hellscape for Real Americans!” to “More baby photos NOW!” It’s always about them dominating and leading the conversation: Their needs must be met in all circumstances and venues.

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    Ramalama says:

    @randy khan: I have some very good friends who are (maybe not so much now) supporting Trump. I’ve been posting all kinds of refutations on facebook but I think the most effective one for my friends have been the ones where Mark Cuban is egging the Donald on. There’s been remarkable silence of late.

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    catclub says:

    @skerry: Trump’s version of Reagan’s 11th commandment. Funny to talk about elected officials as not knowing how to win, by a guy who has never run in an election.

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    Tom65 says:

    Despite winning the second debate in a landslide (every poll)

    Wait, what?

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    MattF says:

    @Shell: It’s notable that Halloween coming before Election Day has political significance this year.

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    amk says:

    @Alain the site fixer: ah, ted, the crud, always with the lousiest timing and judgement.

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    hedgehog the occasional commenter says:

    @Iowa Old Lady: Understood–we don’t answer unless we recognize the number. (And I hear you on swing state.) Trivia: most of mr. h’s family lives in Des Moines/WDM, and he graduated from Iowa State. He started participating in caucuses in Ames and still enjoys going to them here.

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    cleek says:

    i saw this Clinton ad last night. ouch.

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    @hedgehog the occasional commenter: I used to teach at ISU. We moved here for work, and I found the caucuses more enjoyable than I expected. Good on you for phone banking.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    For foks in hailing distance of Pueblo, CO, Hillary will be there midday tomorrow for a rally at the state fairgrounds. Link to event RSVP here.

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    @Iowa Old Lady: I haven’t lived in Colorado for years and I still get phone banked.

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    NorthLeft12 says:

    @PPCLI: Yeah, I have in-laws and cousins that live in the Toronto area and they still speak highly about Ford and what he represents. A few of them are absolutely off the wall over our Premier Wynne.

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    Brachiator says:

    As expected, non-whites favor Clinton over Trump by huge margins (72% vs. 17%), but Clinton is also annihilating Trump among white women with a college degree (68% to 29%), and even white women without a degree are split 40%-40% between Clinton and Trump.

    White male Trump support has been analyzed to death this election cycle. What’s the deal with white women without a college degree? What’s the beef, especially considering the clear misogyny in much of Trump’s utterances? There was a Maddow segment about a small rally of Women for Trump outside the DC RNC headquarters, and while Maddow was snarkiing big time on these people, there was nothing devoted to hearing them explain why they were clinging to The Donald.

    The other breakdowns which bear some scrutiny are younger vs older white women, and married vs single white women.

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    James E Powell says:


    The Donald’s next tweet:

    Ich hätte gut daran getan, vor Jahren alle höherenOffiziere liquidieren zu lassen, wie Stalin!

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @cleek: That’s running A LOT in Florida. Effective ad, IMO.

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    West of the Rockies (been a while) says:


    That’s what your bothered about?

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    Narcissists don’t speak the same language as you and me. From my experience with abusive relationships, I will translate:

    “I just figured out I lost to a woman again. How can this be happening? The humiliation is unendurable. Who can I hurt to prove I’m strong?”

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    hovercraft says:

    The group of law makers who are staying on the bandwagon are deplorable.

    Maine Gov. Paul LePage (R) praised Donald Trump as a leader who would “show some authoritarian power” on Tuesday, even as he slammed President Barack Obama as an “autocrat.”

    “We need a Donald Trump to show some authoritarian power in our country and bring back the rule of law,” LePage said in an interview with Maine radio station WVOM.

    He went on to compare Trump to Obama, decrying the President as “an autocrat” who ignores Congress and “just does it on his own.”……..

    LePage was seemingly unconcerned by Trump’s comments about forcing himself on women in a 2005 video that resurfaced last week, but conceded that Trump is not the “ideal guy I’d want my daughter going after.”

    Lauren LePage, the Maine governor’s daughter, was hired in August by the Trump campaign as state coalitions director.

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    different-church-lady says:

    @MattF: she’d be ready for debates 4 thru 9 too, if they had that many.

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    @Brachiator: I’d bet that the ratios between Trump’s support in all those sub-demographics is the same for white men and white women. Women’s support in each would be smaller as an absolute number but I’ll bet the ratios are the same.

    Stray thought. But I guess the takeaway would be that if that were true, the underlying pathology causing Trump support would be the same, but for a consistent % of women the misogyny beats the pathology.

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    amk says:

    @Brachiator: dood, you can’t have 60/40 or 70/30 in your favor in every demography. I will take 40/40 at this point since it’s only likely to go higher on the D day.

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    PPCLI says:

    I hear you. For the sake of family harmony and my blood pressure, I stopped talking with my Dad’s side of the family about Ontario politics at the beginning of the Mike Harris régime.

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    hovercraft says:

    @randy khan:
    The writing is on the wall for all but the most deluded (looking at you Morning Joe), so they are all crawling back into the swamps they emerged from. Well maybe not swamps, but they are retreating back behind their masks of civility, and will develop amnesia. They’ve been in a fugue state the last year and a half, they were always anti Trump.

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    hovercraft says:

    You know the ones that count, like Drudge, those other ones don’t capture the rel sentiment out in real America!

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    Geeno says:

    @hovercraft: They have always been at war with East Asia

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @hedgehog the occasional commenter: I’m doing the same thing! Cheers! Let’s turn Colorado bright blue!

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    Droppy says:

    @Mike in NC:

    Stop calling Trump’s people white nationalists. They’re white supremacists.


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    hovercraft says:

    That’s also running here in Jersey on msnbc, there is also one with a former nuclear missile launch officer, who is a republican saying Trump is too scary to trust with the keys.
    They are making great Ads down the stretch, about real people.

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    hovercraft says:

    The breakdown for the white women tends to be that many of those white women without college degrees are married to Trumps no. 1 demo, so it’s not surprising.
    Generally Democrats split single white women, slightly lose educated white women. The biggest chunk they lose is married white women, again because most vote with their husbands, we tend to get the older and younger white women who tend to be more dependent on government services and don’t focus as much on taxes as the group in the middle.

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    hedgehog the occasional commenter says:

    @Miss Bianca: Woot!

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    Tokyokie says:

    Trump has pretty much become become “Lonesome” Rhodes from the end of A Face in the Crowd, with Clinton as Marcia Jeffires.

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    D58826 says:

    Looking at those percentages for male voters makes me embarrassed to be a man.

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    Hal says:


    the rule of law

    I would be in favor of a contitutional amendment banning all conservatives from using this phrase ever again. And yes I know that’s contradictory, but if I never hear another ringer saying the rule of law or the constitution, it’ll be too soon.

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    D58826 says:

    one more reason to destroy the GOP

    Elizabeth Warren’s Wall Street Watchdog Ruled Unconstitutional In Current Form

    The appeals court decision won’t necessarily doom the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

    The majority opinion was written by Bush(41) and Bush(43) appointees.

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    Jack the Second says:

    @redshirt: Eh, I don’t really like the frequent exclamations that any gays, POC, immigrants, etc, who support Trump are Doing It Wrong. You’re basically demanding that these individuals identify primarily as part of a particular group and behave as stereotypical members of that group.

    Just because someone is gay or a POC or both doesn’t preclude that person from also being a rich asshole, a religious fundamentalist asshole, a gun-loving asshole, or a Randian asshole. The fallacy of stereotypes is expecting individuals to conform to the (perceived) average, and denying their ability to vary and make choices on their own.

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    sukabi says:

    @Barney: in light of drumpfs penchant for grabbing, that is a telling photo.

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    Jack the Second says:

    @Droppy: How about a joint acronym WN/WS (white nationalists/white supremacists), pronounced “whiny wusses”?

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    randy khan says:

    @Jack the Second:

    Well, I might say that anyone who is

    rich asshole, a religious fundamentalist asshole, a gun-loving asshole, or a Randian asshole

    is doing it wrong, regardless of race or gender.

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    Bailey says:


    I think Pu$$yGate came out on Friday. So I would assume the next one will be Friday. Not sure the rationale. I assumed Friday was the day to dump news you didn’t want people talking about.

    Normally. But in a situation like this, news stations went on high alert and kept up round the clock coverage through the weekend which put those having to respond on the defensive and possibly slowly timed because it was the weekend.

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    Soprano2 says:

    I’m convinced that the women of America are going to save us from the Orange-Haired Nightmare.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @hedgehog the occasional commenter: HRC rally in Pueblo tomorrow! You going?

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    Groucho48 says:


    Clapping your hands over their ears can be very effective if both your hands are free. It doesn’t take a lot of force to pop an ear drum.

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    Arclite says:

    You have to wonder how it’s possible that even 28% of women still support him, although 28% is pretty close to 27%…

    Also, I love that I can say “him” in this election because we have a choice of a “him” and a “her.”

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    Beth in VA says:

    @dmsilev: I don’t know. Seems like this is when Bill Clinton will just step in it. Please, Bill, just stay at home, nice and quiet!

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    hedgehog the occasional commenter says:

    @Miss Bianca: Can’t–have to work. Have fun for me!

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    Spider-Dan says:

    I do enjoy looking at that graphic and seeing that both Gary Johnson and Dr. Jill are at a cool 0% with women.
    It soothes the soul. At least the ladies understand what’s at stake.

    (insert quote about Libertarianism being astrology for men)

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