Comic Relief Open Thread: Ted Cruz, Reaping What He Sowed

Remember the old line about “We’ve already established you’re a whore; now we’re just haggling over your fee”? Well, Ted Cruz sold himself early, while the market was hot. What with all the breaking Trump news, I never got the chance to post Politico‘s story — Cruz profited off Trump well before endorsing him“:

It took Ted Cruz four months and three weeks of “careful consideration, of prayer and searching my own conscience” to declare publicly that he would vote for Donald Trump.

He made the decision to profit by selling his supporter list to Trump far faster than that.

Just six weeks after he dropped out – and more than a month before Cruz would dramatically snub the nominee at the Republican National Convention – the senator quietly began renting his vast donor email file to his former rival, pocketing at least tens of thousands of dollars, and more likely hundreds of thousands, that can be used to bankroll the Texan’s own political future…

The exact details of Trump’s financial arrangement with Cruz are unclear, and loose federal record-keeping makes it impossible to verify. But an email rate sheet obtained by POLITICO shows that Cruz asks campaigns to pay more than $22,000 for the right to send a single email his list of 280,000 digital donors. He charges more than $51,000 to ping his full email file of 1.28 million supporters. Because Trump has rented Cruz’s list so often, he is almost surely receiving a negotiated discount from the list price, industry veterans say.

“You are just a send away from reaching the most engaged and generous supporters in Republican presidential primary history,” the Cruz rate sheet says. More than $20 million was raised from Cruz’s email list, it says.

Since he exited the presidential race in May, Cruz’s campaign committee has reported a total of roughly $290,000 in list rental income, Federal Election Commission records show. Trump’s campaign directly rented Cruz’s list five times in June and since early July his joint fundraising committee with the Republican National Committee — which gives 80 percent of its proceeds to Trump — has rented the Cruz’s list more than 25 times…

In addition to paying to rent Cruz’s list, his campaign has offered some candidates the ability to strike so-called “revenue-sharing” agreements where, unbeknownst to the donor, Cruz and the renter split the donation. The rate sheet suggests Cruz would receive 60 percent of those funds, while the renter would receive 40 percent…

Nowhere in the fine print of the Trump emails does it disclose to recipients that they ended up on the GOP nominee’s email list by previously signing up for Cruz’s list.

After campaigns end, many candidates hire third-party vendors to manage their valuable email lists, paying them a portion of the profits for their services. Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who ended his brief presidential campaign deep in debt, has made back $441,000 in list rentals in the last year, FEC records show…

Much more detail at the link — it’s always interesting to see how many behind-the-scene grifters experts get a swig of the mother’s milk of politics.

78 replies
  1. 1
    Corner Stone says:

    That picture is everything.

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    Baud says:

    My email list is also for sale. Will accept bitcoins.

    In addition, I will happily insult Ted Cruz’s family for remuneration.

    I’m conclusion, Ne-VAH-da.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Corner Stone: That picture is horrifying. I can’t believe that shit is younger than me.

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    redshirt says:

    I doubt it will matter in the future, because reality will be re-written, but my gods these Republicans are pathetic. Like weak, without macho, totally worthless.

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    Baud says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Ted the Intern. Sad!

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    redshirt says:

    @Baud: I have a Nigerian Prince client who’s interested.

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    RaflW says:

    The photo of Cruz in this tweet is just the best (caption is good too!). Much better than the phone bank one, which itself is delightfully awful for him.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    the fact that Trump wears a necklace made of the testicles of Jeb, Cruz, Christie, Li’l Marco and Paul Ryan is almost enough… nah.

    I wonder if his shots at Kirk will cost Illinois votes. I was really hoping McCain would piss Trump off before the election, but Mr Character-and-Courage is being very careful. even stuck up for Trump’s PTSD remarks

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: I’ve also found that children age people. Whene people meet me and my brother they assume he is the elder. I actually am by more than six years. I get a kick out of it; he does not.

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    RaflW says:

    Oh, and earlier today I actually watched the short vid that the Schooley tweet uses a screen grab from. Degrading. Which he richly deserves!

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    Baud says:

    @RaflW: Haha. He looks like a puppy going to the vet to get fixed.

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    Baud says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Hating your kids is the most aging of all.

    ETA:. Fixed for the Cat.

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    @Omnes Omnibus: Same here, my brother is 6 years younger, people think he is older. He has two daughters, while I am a minion of two kittehs,

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    @Baud: Why are you replacing n with m? Is this the low rent Enigma?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: I have a plant.

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    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch says:

    He looks nice.

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    Baud says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Didn’t realize that was legal now in Wisconsin.

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    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    The Emigna? You’ll have to ask Onmes Onmibus about that.

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    chopper says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    it’s “Emigma”.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: As if McCain couldn’t disgrace the uniform he once war any more.

  22. 22
    redshirt says:

    Just saw a Maggie Hassan ad where she’s running against Obama.


  23. 23
    John Revolta says:

    Yeah……………..they laughed at Nixon in 1966, out on the rubber chicken circuit, giving speeches for guys running for sheriff and dogcatcher. Oh, how they laughed.

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    amk says:

    who is the worst corrupt sell-out, ted crud or granny starver?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @John Revolta: Chicken Littling in advance. Well done.

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    @John Revolta: Ted Cruz is no Nixon. He has the political instincts of a potato.

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    @Omnes Omnibus: Weren’t we supposed to cower in fear of Ted’s amazing debating skills, this time around.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @redshirt: He’s running for the Senate again? You’d think he’d take a little time off. Enjoy not doing anything for a bit. I guess he’s planning on messing with Mitch McConnell by signing on as a co-sponsor to every piece of Senate Republican caucus legislation proposed, which, based on the past seven years, should force them to immediately opposed their own proposals.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: College debating, like appellate litigation, requires certain skills. Seeming like a decent human is not one of them.

  31. 31
    father pussbucket says:

    “Why does everyone persecute me?”

  32. 32
    PatrickG says:

    Open thread… so I reached out to an old acquaintance in Wisconsin who I’ve semi-amicably argued with about Scott Walker for years now. She claims she will not vote for President. Trump disgusts her, Johnson is laughable, she dismissed Stein out of hand… but just doesn’t trust Hillary, and can’t justify voting for her.

    I shall persevere.

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    redshirt says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I meant of course she specifically says in the ad that she opposed Obama shutting down Guantanamo, ie “running against Obama”.

    Yes, Maggie, backstab the most popular Democrat and current President.

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    John Revolta says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Cluck off. I’m just egging you on.

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    amk says:

    @redshirt: Every cowardly cong critter is against closing gitmo. She is just another one.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @redshirt: Okay, good to know.

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    redshirt says:

    @amk: Weakness is our weakness, and why we can’t win.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @redshirt: Kind of an odd thing to be bringing up. Is that a resonant issue in NH?

    @John Revolta: Trollery most fowl!

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    Punchy says:

    @Baud: I read that as “having your kids” and thought, oh SNAP! Alas…

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    SFAW says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Whene people meet me and my brother they assume he is the elder. I actually am by more than six years.

    It’s amazing how much younger you look. I can tell from way over here!

    I thought it was just due to you being a clean-living, Grid-fearing man.

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    redshirt says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Totally odd and it seemed defensive and out of place. That’s why I noted it.

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    SFAW says:


    who is the worst corrupt sell-out, ted crud or granny starver?

    Did your computer suddenly die? I only see two on that list. You’re off by two orders of magnitude.

    At least.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Fred Trump’s second son has ideas about foreign policy

    “Remember when we were young and we were studying history, and they talk about some of the great generals, and the great attacks?

    Name three of each, Donald. Even two

    … Wouldn’t it be nice if we attacked first, and talked about our great victory later?” the GOP nominee added.

    later, when our mission is accomplished?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @SFAW: I once saw an interview with a 90-something retired golfer. He was asked about his longevity. He responded “I drink Bourbon and smoke cigars every day. Hell of a blow to clean living, isn’t it?”

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    SFAW says:


    Just watched it. Seems she was trying to draw a contrast between her own “Keeping NH safe from Terrists” cred and Ayotte’s missing half her Homeland Security meetings/briefings. The Obama/Gitmo comment came at the end of a list of things she (i.e., Hassan) has done or “supported.”

    Not the way I would have done it, but I’m not running, etc.

    On the plus side, Maggie pronounced “New Hamster” correctly.

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    NotMax says:

    Do not fear the reaper.

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    SFAW says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    He responded “I drink Bourbon and smoke cigars every day. Hell of a blow to clean living, isn’t it?”

    I guess I’ve been doing it all worng.

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    NotMax says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Aw, c’mon, Don-don. Just say “Custer.”

    You know you want to.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @SFAW: Jim Morrison died at 27. There is no universal.

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    NotMax says:


    Trite, but some people live much longer just because some people live much longer.

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    redshirt says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: So did Kurt. So did Jesus.

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    The Ancient Randonneur says:

    @redshirt: Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @redshirt: @The Ancient Randonneur: I know. Bad behavior can end badly.

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    cmorenc says:


    @Omnes Omnibus:

    He responded “I drink Bourbon and smoke cigars every day. Hell of a blow to clean living, isn’t it?”

    I guess I’ve been doing it all worng.

    The best answer on how to do that right is “blow and hookers”.

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    NotMax says:


    So did Kurt.

    No Gymkata II: The Apologizing?


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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @cmorenc: He was old as fuck! Get off his back!

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    redshirt says:

    @NotMax: Without google I feel I am so close to getting this reference, but not quite. I mean, I know Gymkata.

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    SFAW says:


    The answer on how to do that right is “blow and hookers”.

    I always thought it was “hookers and blow,” but maybe that’s just a New York (pronounced “New York”) thing.

    Either way, not my thing, but perhaps I’m an outlier.

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    Jeffro says:

    @Corner Stone: That picture is my desktop and iPhone wallpaper until Inauguration Day, are you kidding me?

  62. 62
    SFAW says:


    Kurt Thomas (I think).

  63. 63
    Jeffro says:


    who is the worst corrupt sell-out, ted crud or granny starver?

    I’m telling y’all, it’s as easy as following the Mercers…er, excuse me…follow the money.

    Same difference.

    We’ve been watching the Kochs while a whole new family o’ trouble has cropped up…

  64. 64
    GregB says:


    Knew Hampshire not Noo Hampsha?

  65. 65
    Suzanne says:

    God, he’s so gross. Seriously I don’t know how anyone ever ducks him. GOD SO NASTY.

    I have to admit, the only good thing about Trump winning the primary is that I get to enjoy Ted Cruz being a LOO-HOO-HOO-ZER.

  66. 66
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Grumpy Old Man Johngcole
    Is loretta sanchez having a public emotional breakdown like Trump?

    Is Cole talking about the dab from last night, campaigning with Issa, or did something else happen?

  67. 67
    Lizzy L says:

    OT but tangential: Rick Scott, Governor of Florida, has turned down a request from the Clinton campaign to extend the voter registration deadline in Florida. It may not matter. According to Politico,

    voter-registration records show, Democrats are walloping Republicans. The Florida Democratic Party has submitted about 488,000 voter-registration forms it has collected for this election, while Republicans have submitted roughly 60,000, according to state reports.

    In all, about 1.9 million voter-registration forms have been collected by nearly 700 groups statewide. Most of those groups appear Democrat-leaning or are dedicated to registering poor, young and minority voters who tend to vote for Democrats. The National Council of La Raza/Democracia USA, for instance, has registered about 49,000 people for this election — nearly all Hispanic, at least 60 percent of whom are voting for Clinton, records show.

    Scott, of course, is the head of the Trump PAC in Florida. There is also an issue with absentee ballots.

    ….The hurricane might make absentee-ballot voting problematic because people might be displaced or have other residency problems that make voting by mail tougher in a disaster zone. So far, about 2.6 million Floridians are slated to receive absentee ballots. The deadline for all counties to start sending them is Tuesday. Election-law blogger Rick Hasen, of the University of California Irvine School of Law, said Hurricane Matthew could be the ultimate election problem for the nation, not just Florida. “Displaced Floridians will want to vote absentee, but absentee ballots that were mailed won’t be available for some, creating complications,” he said on Twitter, where he predicted Democrats would sue.

    Florida — ballots — courts — it’s deja vu all over again!

  68. 68
    Onkel Fritze says:

    In all fairness, Teddy is just taking one for daddy.

    Trump promised a full presidential pardon to Cruz Sr. for his involvement in the JFK assasination.

  69. 69
    redshirt says:

    I love this picture of Teddy Cruz so much. It’s like art.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    In non-political news, I just saw Kubo and the Two Strings and it was fabulous. Highly recommended for animation fans.

  71. 71
    Ruckus says:

    I always heard it as “Neu Yark”

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    Ruckus says:

    I could introduce you to a bunch of guys (and a few gals) who must fall into the unlucky side. Fella I see every day at the VA lost his cousin today, died of lung cancer, at the same VA hospital. I think it really hit him hard, he almost cried telling me about it, while over the last 3 weeks of seeing him every day he has done little more than acknowledge my existence.
    If anyone wants to see people having a bad day, go to your closest regional VA hospital and just sit out front or in the lobby for 2 or 3 hrs.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    He was old as fuck! Get off his back!

    Yeah, because if cigars and bourbon didn’t kill him, *that* just might!

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Is that a resonant issue in NH?

    Haven’t (yet) seen the ad Redshirt cites, but there’s an anti-Hassan superpac ad running here in the Boston market which accuses her of ‘supporting Hillary Clinton’s plan to release terrorists from Guantanamo Bay and send them back to rejoin ISIS’. Which is 17 kinds of wrong, but I can understand why Hassan’s team might decide NAH SHE DIN’T works better in a 30second spot.

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    Bruce K says:

    Ted Cruz is a great example of what happens when you treat both Charisma and Wisdom as dump stats.

  76. 76
    Aleta says:

    This short film is at the Atlantic website.

    The short documentary Just A Dog, by Andrea B. Scott, tells the story of how one African American family’s pet dog, Seven, was killed by police on the family’s private property in Hartford, Connecticut. The family sued the police department for unjustly killing the dog under false pretenses that there was a gun on the property. The moral of the film seems to be that police disregard for the lives of African Americans extends to their pets as well, and that the system continues to fail them in the pursuit of justice. “With everything going on, it’s kind of hard to be convinced that they’re on my side,” says the dog’s owner, who goes by K in the film. “You took my best friend, you’re killing black people, I mean, you can’t work with a dog how do we expect you to work with people?”

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    workworkwork says:

    @PatrickG: Had a similar call with my little sister. She’s not Republican but is a die-hard Bernie-or-Buster.

    I managed to leave it at “I hope Hillary will pleasantly surprise you and remember that voting is not just every four years between naps.”

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    workworkwork says:

    @Mnemosyne: Absolutely. Beautifully animated, weird and engaging story. Spooky moon witches!

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