Heading into the weekend like… https://t.co/8wBMx4wuUh
— Meghan O'Keefe (@megsokay) September 30, 2016
And it’s schadenfreude for breakfast, again! Per the Washington Post, “Trump’s bad week is a ‘nightmare’ for the GOP”:
Republican leaders and strategists are unnerved by Donald Trump’s erratic attacks on a Latina beauty queen and other outbursts this week, increasingly fearful that the GOP nominee is damaging his White House hopes and doing lasting harm to the party in the campaign’s final stretch…
Senate and House candidates are ducking questions about Trump and distancing themselves, while Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has refused to talk about him. And few elected leaders are counseling him.
“Maybe every two weeks,” House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) said to a business crowd about how often he speaks with Trump…
Reflecting upon Trump’s actions, Matt Borges, the Republican Party chairman in battleground Ohio, said, “Can this thing just end — please?”
“My God,” he sighed, “what a nightmare.”…
Polls show Clinton beginning to pull away in several states, with seven-point leads in the latest polls from Michigan and New Hampshire, and ticking up in national surveys. A Fox News national poll released Friday showed Clinton ahead of Trump 43 percent to 40 percent in a four-way race.
In private conversations this week, Trump’s high command has sought to reassure party figures, including Senate and House leaders, that there is no reason to be alarmed by the debate or by Trump’s ensuing theatrics, explaining them away as part of his appeal to the masses.
Publicly, the candidate’s top allies angrily batted away all criticism and said they consider it a betrayal of the nominee. Former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, a confidant of Trump’s who spent much of the week traveling at the candidate’s side, blasted fellow Republicans for widespread disunity that he does not see in the rival party.
“Republicans are a bunch of frightened rabbits,” Giuliani said. “Unfortunately, we have a party made up of a bunch of people who get frightened very easily, and their hands start to shake whenever something happens that they don’t like.”…
At an intimate fundraiser Wednesday for Rep. Joseph J. Heck (R-Nev.), who is running for the Senate, McConnell asked the group of about a dozen supporters how many of them think Trump can win. About half of the attendees raised their hands. But when McConnell then asked how many thought Trump would win, no hands went up, and the room fell silent, according to a person familiar with the scene who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a closed event.
Few Republicans were keen on discussing Trump’s debate performance or defending the personal dramas he has reignited. McConnell bluntly swept aside questions about Trump.
“This is not something that I am going to discuss today,” the Senate leader told one reporter who asked about Trump’s impact on Senate races.
Pressed by another reporter about why he would not speak about Trump, McConnell replied, “Because I choose not to.”
When Ryan was asked to comment on Trump’s attacks Tuesday on Machado, the Wisconsin Republican demurred: “I was working out and working this morning. I didn’t watch.”…
When things turn tough, everybody retreats to their comfort zone. McTurtle turtles; PX90 Boy scurries to the no-media-permitted Congressional gym. And their presidential candidate sits up till dawn, watching ‘the shows’ and rage-tweeting at his enemies, real & imagined.
***********
Apart from enjoying the spectacle of the GOP self-destructing, what’s on the agenda for the day?
One good sign that you didn't win a debate is four days later you're still losing it.
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) September 30, 2016
Keith P.
I’m getting a kick out of the new Trump campaign talking point that the real problem of the Alicia Machado episode is that Hillary Clinton brought it up, like if your opponent hands you a club, you’re *not* supposed to bludgeon him over the head with it. Nice that every host is now responding with “Yeah, but Donald Trump KEEPS BRINGING IT UP!”
sukabi
So did the GOP all forget to collect their balls at baggage claim?
Drumpf is a loose cannon, but you’d think at least a few of them would call him out…makes me think that drumpf either has blackmail material on quite a few of them, or they are stupider and the biggest bedwetters on the planet…
Or both….
As long as drumpf is stomping his own dick, and his poll # keep falling it’s a win for everybody.
raven
Not as big as the Bama game but Tennessee coming in undefeated against my wounded Dawgs is as big as it will be this year!
Ian
The party of family values encourages you to watch a sex tape.
Villago Delenda Est
@Keith P.: Why is anyone the least surprised that Drumpf keeps doing this? It’s what he does! He’s being doing it on “short-fingered vulgarian” for over a quarter of a century. He did it with the Khans. Now he’s doing the same thing with Machado. He does this EVERY TIME he’d challenged, on anything! He’s utterly incapable of controlling himself, and his handlers can’t handle him. He’s unhandleable. McConnell and Ryan KNOW he’s taking the entire party down with him, because he’s done it before, to the USFL. For fear of alienating the monster they created, the racist, uninterested in reality, perpetually angry at everything base, they’ve let him take their nomination and there’s nothing, nothing they can do to stop it. Turn out the lights, the party’s over!
AnderJ
And still at least some 40%-45% of the US will vote for him…
bystander
@Villago Delenda Est:
On MSNBC yesterday, the repub strategist said, “Trump could still turn this around…next debate…focus…blah blah blah…” The Dem strategist, “He won’t. He hasn’t this entire campaign. He won’t start now.” Which I find reassuring.
All of a sudden, I could see the November tweets. “Too bad, America. Go with that loser Crooked Hilary. You missed your chance to MAGA.”
greennotGreen
@AnderJ: At least 40% of the people who bother to vote.
Tokyokie
@Villago Delenda Est: He keeps doing it because he is constitutionally incapable of admitting error or even a shortcoming. Which would seem to be a pretty serious psychological defect, especially in a presumptive world leader.
satby
@greennotGreen: yeah, that’s a key thing. Voter turnout is low enough in this country that if the totals were extrapolated to all eligible voters, I suspect the final result of % of Drumpf voters will fall into the Crazification zone.
amk
surprised they didn’t blame the kenyan for this shitshow too. obama made him do it.
opiejeanne
@bystander: I have been very amused by Lawrence O’Donnell’s outraged commentary for the past few weeks, especially this week. I think the best part is that so many of his guests are Republicans who can’t stand Trump and are either supporting McMullen or worked for earlier Republican campaigns and are either retired or sitting this one out. They are the most scathing and say some of the most entertaining things when discussing Trump’s so-called campaign.
opiejeanne
@AnderJ: I’m expecting a far lower percentage will vote for Trump, and it’s just a notion and not at all scientific; I keep reading about who is not being counted in the polls, and that really makes me think that this might be a blowout.
Amir Khalid
@Keith P.:
It’s actually worse. Donald Trump isn’t bludgeoning Hillary over the head with that club, he’s bludgeoning himself with it.
satby
Today starts my new work schedule, Saturday-Tuesday for the foreseeable future. I already hate it, no weekends off ever?
But on a positive note, the dogs have settled into a routine, my wounded warrior Hershey is almost fully recovered from his oral surgery, and I’m getting more stuff unpacked. Catching up on all the orders I’m behind in my Etsy store too. So those are good things.
Villago Delenda Est
@bystander:
Oh, I think he’s going to scream about how everything is “rigged”…that it’s so “unfair”. He’s already foreshadowed this reaction, months ago. His conspiracy-vulnerable fan base is ready to accept it simply on his assertion of it, with no supporting evidence at all, because that is how these creatures roll.
It turns out his microphone at the beginning of the debate, did have a problem…that no one in the TV audience could detect…it was strictly in the hall itself. He was too high from whatever it was he took to “prepare him” to notice the actual problem was localized, not broadcast. Once that problem was fixed, THAT is when he came off the rush and started to babble and when Hillary laid into him on his taxes, which really unnerved him. To sum up, the best part of his performance all evening took place when the microphone problem was happening.
Bottom line: Donnie got beat by a girl. Not on points, but on TKO. She was doing everything but breaking out in the Macarena at the end of the debate.
AnderJ
@opiejeanne: let’s hope so. One would think that it is now for all to see that the man has no impulse control. A man who can be baited with a tweet..
And it might be that Trumps share of the vote is a consequence of low turn out, but that doesn’t make me feel any better…
Villago Delenda Est
@Amir Khalid: Hillary handed him the club, and he’s proceeded to beat himself with it. From Hillary’s perspective, he is putty in her hands. She manipulated him in so many ways, and because he’s a sexist pig, he can’t see it, can’t imagine it, and we’re seeing the same thing we’ve seen with the GOP and Obama…they can’t believe they’re getting their asses kicked by a blah man. Donnie can’t believe a girl is kicking his ass, either.
raven
@satby: Just for you
opiejeanne
@Villago Delenda Est: Her little shimmy made us laugh, and the gifs of it in combination with Shaq doing that shoulder shimmy are pretty cute.
So, the problem was for the first 25 minutes or so, when he was somewhat on target, in control of himself. How odd that he lost his cool once the problem was resolved.
Have you seen the silly uproar about HRC cheating by either having a secret teleprompter built into her lectern (complete with diagram), or someone feeding her answers through an earpiece (photograph of her back)?
Keith P.
@bystander: I’m looking forward to the post-election interviews with Clinton campaign staff where they really go off on how shocked they were to be handed such an easy, easy mark as Donald Trump. I’m really surprised Trump hasn’t been taken to the cleaners by swindlers sometime in the 90s. I have never, ever seen an adult in public life with this level of a lack of mental self-control. It’s clichéd to say it by now, but he is SO easily baited that it’s just comical. I’ve heard so many GOP pundits this week just express disappointment in how easy and consistently Trump walks into traps (to the point where they try to blame Hillary for setting those traps). Krauthammer looks ready to throw up his hands and put his head down on the table.
opiejeanne
@AnderJ: It won’t just be low voter turnout, I don’t think he’s got the percentage of voters the polls are crediting him with, and I think we may actually see a larger portion of the registered voters actually voting.
opiejeanne
Whoops! It’s 3:20am on the west coast. I wonder if I should tweet something.
Baud
@amk:
Well, they are blaming Hillary for it. Same playbook as McConnell with the veto override.
Keith P.
Oh, cool, I’m watching a Maddow rerun, and she is saying they’ve got single-source reports that Trump is shopping for campaign manager #4. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Baud
@opiejeanne: Hope you are right. I don’t trust polls either, but I don’t want to do the whole skewed polls thing either.
raven
@Baud: Oh that’s right, leave us here while you go globetrotting and then come back and give us chicken little!!!
Ryan
I thought there wouldn’t be a better example of GOP projection issues than Trump’s foundation troubles, going on as he and the right are raising questions about the Clinton Foundation. Fortunately, I have faith in Donald! There’s only one candidate in this race who has ever made a cameo appearance in a sex tape.
https://boingboing.net/2016/09/30/donaldtrumpsextape.html
Ryan
@Keith P.: Of course they are. Donnie is an 8 year old child who didn’t get his way on Monday.
Baud
@raven:
I don’t think she’ll lose. But it’s unlikely that she’ll win by the amount I would have hoped given what Trump is.
opiejeanne
@Baud: Yeah, not interested in the unskewing of polls, but I do know that many of the polls aren’t including any young people, or POC. That right there gives me hope.
Also, am I the only one sick to death of articles about what we Democrats need to do to bring the millennials into our fold? Too much hand-wringing over an age group that really isn’t a monolithic voting bloc.
eclare
@raven: And I am a Vol! Just hoping for a good game, last year Chubb’s injury made me sick.
raven
@eclare: He’s not going to be able to play today either. We have serious problems but it does set the table for and interesting tilt. A big bonus is that it will be a high of about 81 so it should be a great day!
Baud
@opiejeanne:
Nope. It’s the shiny new thing everyone wants to talk about.
raven
@Baud: joke
Baud
@raven: I know. I’m just wanted to clarify.
satby
@raven: ? thanks! Love the Dowager Countess!
m0nty
It would be a shame to break the symmetry of both candidates having as many campaign managers as spouses.
eclare
@raven: Crap, hate to hear that. I thought I saw he injured his ankle. Enjoy what is going to be a great day in the SEC! I’ve been to Athens, it’s special.
raven
@eclare: I’m close enough to walk but I’m going to take a car down closer to campus and park it in a free spot and have the princess drop me off later. That way I just go through downtown and, voila, the car is there for a quick ride home after the tilt!
bystander
@opiejeanne: The other half doesn’t allow political broadcasts after dinner except on an emergency basis. Gives me nightmares. But I do love O’Donnell, especially when he goes after the NRA.
@Keith P.:
We might see that if he disclosed his taxes. So we will never know. I think he will run the entire gamut of emotions from anger to spite, but doubt we will ever get to acceptance. I look forward to the meltdown with eager anticipation.
eclare
@raven: That is the way to work it!
Splitting Image
@amk:
Some of them have. Bobby Jindal blamed Obama for Trump’s rise during the primaries, although he is getting more forgettable by the day.
raven
@eclare: 32 years of practice!
rikyrah
Good Morning ?,Everyone ?
p.a.
@Baud: At least this time ’round it’s matched by “Repubs need to attract x,y,z” Usually it’s just ‘Repubs get the real Murkans, Dems need to cobble together the gvt-subsidized and bleeding hearts’
amk
alabama ayotallah kicked to the kerb by the entire bench.
OzarkHillbilly
@satby: Wednesday- Thursday is the new wkend.
Shalimar
The NY Times interview with Trump is insane. He says he has never had a problem with infidelity in his marriage and won’t talk about his affair with Marla Maples because he “wasn’t president.” Neither was Bill Clinton during all of his alleged affairs other than Lewinsky, but whatever. No one ever accused Trump of being logical.
Applejinx
@Keith P.:
Does the Russian Mob count as swindlers?
OzarkHillbilly
@Splitting Image: Bobby who?
Applejinx
@opiejeanne:
As long as the answer isn’t ‘cut taxes on the wealthy because millenials need to inherit ALL of their estates’, bring it on, I say.
The kids are alright. I work for a fandom convention with a lot of millenial attendance (and staffing) and have worked for a lot of millenial women, both at this convention and in the Bernie campaign. No handwringing is necessary, just cut the bullshit and get more progressive in every sense and you’re just fine. These are not people who will throw a big fit because you didn’t get progressive exactly the way they wanted. If anything, my cohort (Gen X) and the Boomers are the ones to do that. Don’t project, the kids are alright.
obligatory music
gf120581
@Keith P.: If Trump’s looking to throw Conway under the bus, I would not be surprised. Of course he’s going to blame the woman for his own failures. (If he had any brains, David Bossie is the one he’d dispose of.)
One wonders if it’s Trump or his kids driving this. The Children of the Corn appear more concerned about their future earnings at this point than the WH.
Of course, the real points are (a) firing your campaign manager in October is akin to admitting defeat and (b) no GOP strategist with any career prospects will take it. Maybe Roger Ailes should just take over so he and Trump can spend a lot more personal time bitching about them evil ladies to each other.
satby
@OzarkHillbilly: LOL, for me anyway! And every one will be a three day weekend! Though I’m going to give selling at the South Bend Farmers Market a try on Thursdays. It’s an indoor one, open year round. Should be fun ?
satby
@rikyrah: Good morning!
@amk: and good news!
Baud
@Applejinx: Who and who is not alright will be determined on election day.
Betty Cracker
I need that goddamned hurricane to turn already so it doesn’t fuck up my vacation plans! Seriously, though — scary storm. Hope it threads the needle between the islands and heads out to the Atlantic to spin some fish…
OzarkHillbilly
@satby: Many yrs ago in a different life I enjoyed having midweek days off. Not being able to hang with friends sucked of course, but I was able to head for the woods or a nearby river bank and not be tripping over joggers at 9 am.
OzarkHillbilly
@Betty Cracker: Saw that and thought of you.
Chyron HR
@Applejinx:
You mean, other than the significant bloc of neo-nazi frogposters?
Hal
So at what point can you not turn your campaign around? I feel like we’ll be hearing this until November 9th.
satby
@Baud: absolutely. This election is really a definitive one. I’m hoping it’s a decisive enough one to lance the boil infecting the country.
@OzarkHillbilly: I’m sure I’ll find things to enjoy about it. And there’s always holidays.
Off to get ready for work, everyone have a great day!
Ceci n'est pas mon nym
@Hal:
I am picturing the scene in Groundhog Day where Chris Elliott looks over the cliff at the wreckage of Bill Murray’s van and says something like “He could still be all right”
After which it explodes.
satby
@Betty Cracker: ugh, hope it turns away!
p.a.
@Hal: RNC will have to install something on tRump like on Cliff Clavin. “Dance, mailman.”
Matt McIrvin
Oh, God. Watching an argument elsewhere with somebody ranting about how Trump is secretly working for Hillary so her Wall Street banks can run the world, and it’s the second part of her plan after she rigged the primaries against the huge majorities for Saint Bernie. And how he wants Trump to win to bring the apocalypse that brings the whole fraud down, but Trump is throwing the race and the conspiracy won’t allow it to happen.
This isn’t even the first time I’ve seen this, in this precise form. An old online acquaintance of mine just flounced off Facebook because he couldn’t convince our other friends of it.
Baud
@Matt McIrvin: Did you explain Hillary’s mental health plan to him?
This is heartening.
Vhh
@Keith P.: I think he might well have been taken to the cleaners in business by the Russians who lend him money and expect to be paid back. Another reason to hide his tax returns.
Matt McIrvin
@Baud: The first response was “cocaine is a crazy drug”, to which he responded “Partisanship kills brain cells.”
Baud
@Matt McIrvin: One of those statements is accurate.
Kay
Giuliani is getting hurt on the speaking circuit:
Donald Trump makes everyone around him worse. Brush up against him and his shit sticks to you.
It’s so funny how the fringe Right never get that businesses want African Americans and Latinos as customers.
They think only white people go to shopping centers or the bank? Especially the international shopping center group. Who do they think builds, owns, works in and shops in shopping centers in Mexico?
Real business people don’t go out of their way to offend and outrage huge groups of people. That’s not a goal.
debbie
@satby:
Hope you’re still around. I wanted to thank you for that Hillel quote. I posted it on my FB page as an opening salvo.
OzarkHillbilly
RIP:
What? Who is Richard Trentlage? Well, just sing along with me!
Oh, I’d love to be an Oscar Mayer wiener
That is what I’d truly love to be
‘Cause if I were an Oscar Mayer wiener
Everyone would be in love with me.
When I was a kid, an Oscar Mayer exec lived down the street from us. They had a birthday party for one of theirs and served OM hotdogs for the B-day dinner. He took a bunch of snapshots of all the kids eating. One of them, featuring my older brother (the ‘cute freckled kid’) and 2 other boys and a girl, became the center piece of a national OM ad campaign. This being back in the day, no money was ever exchanged but my parents did receive a 2’x3′ poster. I think Dave still has it.
rikyrah
@satby:
Glad to hear that everyone is settled in ☺
Bjacques
Trump should definitely shake up his team again. Campaign consultants Wenk & Steiner will totally turn it around.
debbie
@Kay:
Good. No one deserves this kind of hurt more than Rudi. Of course, should anyone say anything negative about Italians, he’d be all over them in a flash.
Schlemazel
@sukabi:
I thought Rudely 9/11 explained it very well. He is quoted in this post as saying Republicans scare easily. He is dead on with that, look at how they run for office it is all fear all the time. So the answer to your question has been supplied by one of their own. Republicans are chicken shits
rikyrah
@gf120581: The Children of the Corn?
BWA HA HA HAHAHAHA ????
OzarkHillbilly
@debbie: Missed it. What did she say?
Bobby Thomson
@Kay:
That’s some shameful shit.
And again, pretty bad Trump news being broken by his son-in-law’s rag.
Schlemazel
@amk:
I think they would be mostly right on that charge. I think this fire in Drumpfs belly was turned up to 11 at the WHCD when the President took him apart and the crowd laughed in delight.
Aleta
Giuliani has become a Ralph Steadman drawing.
rikyrah
@Kay:
But Kay,
White dollars mean more. Didn’t you know that Black dollars are only 3/5 of White dollars?
Kay
That’s certainly true. It’s become very clear that Obama wasn’t brought up the way Trump and Giuliani were brought up. Obama was raised better.
Keith P.
Good grief. Renee Elmers is on doing the same dodge as all the others…the host says “I know Hillary brought it up, but why is Trump bringing it up 5 days after it?” Elmers: “Well, I’d first like to mention that HIllary brought it up…” Head-slap.
I wish one of these cable news channels would stop bringing on surrogates. It’s incredibly monotonous. Bring on a Trump supporter and let them spout talking points. Bring on a Clinton supporter to do the same. Now bring on 3 of each and let them yell talking points at each other. Lazy and boring.
Bobby Thomson
@Matt McIrvin:
with the self awareness of a Trump
Van Buren
@Applejinx: in my experience, female younguns get it, but the boys give me a heavy load of bothsidesbad that is hard to break through
Matt McIrvin
@Kay:
Well, most of them anyway. There are still your Denny’s and Cracker Barrel type operations that have to be pushed.
TS
@Keith P.:
Which says so much about his primary opponents that they all gave up so very quickly.
debbie
@OzarkHillbilly:
It was a quote said to be from Hillel the Elder: “What is hateful to you do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah. The rest is commentary.”
Appropriate because I’ve got a Hassidic nephew who’s a fervent Trump supporter. He likes to sprinkle lengthy quotes from the Talmud in his arguments to bolster his reasoning that Trump’s the one. I’ll be seeing him at Thanksgiving, when he’ll hopefully be nursing his wounds. I’m really sick of his quotes, and this’ll shut him down.
OzarkHillbilly
@debbie: Just call him a WOP, that will be sure to send him over the edge.
Italians gained that particular slur because so many of them showed up here With Out Papers. Sound familiar?
Kay
@Bobby Thomson:
It’s delicious because it will kill them. Being rejected by business groups will shame Republicans more than anything else. It’s probably the only rejection that shames them.
You know, it will offend people in NYC, and Trump is obviously not representative of them, but one of the craziest things about this is we now have two high-profile racist political leaders who came out of NYC. Not just “two”- the top two. Trump wasn’t a real estate developer in Alabama or Missouri or Indiana and Guiliani wasn’t the mayor of Little Rock or Atlanta- these guys rose to national prominence in NYC.
Princess
@Splitting Image: Tom Nicholls (#NeverTrump GOP guy) blames Democrats for GOP racism. We accused them of all being racist and so obviously they had to all become racist. or something. i can’t quite follow it.
sukabi
@Kay: no one made ghouliani any more repellent than he already is. Can’t blame that on drumpf.
Kay
@sukabi:
I think he’s in the Trump bubble now so forgets that making nasty cracks about “Mexicans in the kitchen” isn’t acceptable or desirable in a normal commercial setting.
gf120581
@efgoldman: I note Mark Cuban tweeted the other day that he thinks Trump will go bankrupt within seven years because he’s so thoroughly poisoned his brand with the greater public. No business will want to associate themselves with him.
@Kay: No, they don’t get it. We’ve seen it in IN and now in NC, where both Pence and McCrory and their ilk are utterly flabbergasted when the business community turns on them with a vengeance over their attempts to legalize bigotry. They don’t understand that corporate America hates bigotry for one simple reason, it’s bad for business.
Kay
@efgoldman:
That to me is why they have to lose. Because I’m vindictive :)
The fact is these kids are gross. They jumped on this as a career move. They took the upside of their father’s scam businesses. Now it’s time to take the downside. There has to be moral hazard.
It was a choice. No one ordered them to go out and run his fucking campaign. Ivanka is all in. She chose to tie herself to this stuff. Now she has to go and sell her shoe line with a brand that means “ignorant racist”.
Princess
@gf120581: I wondered whether why the reason he went off on Chicago in the debate was that he was having vacancy problems at the Trump tower there. Because it is all projection with him.
Princess
Oh, it looks like I was right. He does have a vacancy problem at Trump Chicago:
“Why won’t retailers move into Trump Tower?”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chicagoinc/ct-trump-tower-empty-retail-0713-chicago-inc-20160712-story.html
Tom
@Keith P.: If its any comfort: 1) Renee Elmers lost her primary last spring, so come January she’s unemployed, and 2) A couple of years ago, she left an AR-15 sitting out in her garage, unattended, with the garage door open, and it was promptly stolen.
A bigger idiot it would be hard to find (well, maybe not this year, but usually).
amk
the dilbert thug. us white men are constantly humiliated in our imagination and it’s all your fault.
Kay
@Princess:
I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near his name. Why sign up for that? It’s just buying his problems.
Eric U.
@satby:
this sounds a lot like “peak wingnut.” We’re stuck with it until there is no money in hate radio/TV, unfortunately.
Kay
@amk:
He’s another one. His brand is now “crazy racist” to +/- 50% of people. Brilliant.
Matt McIrvin
@OzarkHillbilly: As a general rule, folk etymologies claiming an old slang term was originally an acronym are usually wrong, though there seems to have been a fad for abbreviations like “OK” in the early 19th century. But the existence of papers wouldn’t have even been an issue during the period when this slur became popular; immigration was nearly unrestricted.
Merriam says it’s based on a southern Italian slang term “guappo” that in turn comes from the Spanish “guapo”.
MattF
Dreary morning, remnants of Wed-Thu rain dribbling from a grey sky. Sleepwalked through my morning chores, pondered last night’s peculiar dreams, assembled and ate breakfast, read a magazine, will probably go out (again) to do additional weekly to-do items. Noted that Hillz’s margin has increased about a point. Trump’s chances are now getting into the tail distribution, whose characteristics are much more uncertain than the central parameters.
So, be of good cheer.
Betty Cracker
@Kay: I confess I’m enjoying the destruction of that brand immensely. Trump and his odious family will be insulated from much of the fallout, of course. But having their family name become synonymous with “ignorant racist” is a humiliation they richly deserve.
Chris T.
@Princess:
It’s quite simple:
1. Republicans are automatically for anything Democrats are against.
2. Democrats are against racism.
3. Therefore, Democrats have forced Republicans to be racist.
gene108
@Ryan:
On the BoingBoing link you posted, Larry King interview’s Domald Trump at the 1988 Republican convention.
Comparing Donald in that interview to what he sounds like now, I think he’s developing some cognitive problem as he ages.
OzarkHillbilly
@Princess: Behold, the Party of Personal Responsibility
Kay
This is what’s offensive:
I know you’re going to tell me they weren’t at the “top echelons” but for the unwashed masses they were– they were held up as “successes”. Go back and listen to the idiotic pundit commentary during the RNC. It was all about how they were so successful. These people are frauds. They haven’t earned anything. No one should admire them or aspire to be them. Someone with a legit business who makes 100k a year is WAY more “successful” than any of them. They DISPROVE “merit”.
trnc
Trump made an entire cottage industry out of the word “nasty” to describe various opponents during the primaries, but apparently now he thinks nasty is awesome.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/30/politics/donald-trump-bill-clinton-presidential-debate-hillary-clinton/
He might be in danger of copyright infringement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3YevE4pI0k
gene108
@opiejeanne:
Democrats are still doing better than Republicans, with the youth vote.
Republicans seem to have given up attracting voters outside of their base of angry older white people.
Joel
@opiejeanne: There’s a significant disconnect between older millennials — people in their late twenties and the more politically apathetic younger “millennials”.
When all you can remember are times of relative peace and prosperity, you have the luxury to not take elections as seriously as you should. I’ll always believe this happened in 2000.
Kay
@gene108:
The last breakdown I saw had Clinton doing much better with older voters than Obama did, too, so I think it ends up a wash.
Eric U.
@Chris T.:
That’s an application of cleek’s law. However, the reason Republicans are racist is because of the Southern strategy and minority voters taking the obvious message and voting for Democrats. I’m sure the fact that they’ve driven off so many minority voters feeds the racism to some extent.
I want to go mountain bike riding, but the rain makes that a bad idea. It also is keeping me from doing some construction chores, don’t want to drive through the back yard and make tracks.
OzarkHillbilly
@Matt McIrvin: Damn. I knew it was too good to be true. Use it anyway. He’s probably heard it and it will drive him over the edge anyway.
trnc
@Kay:
Except for those businesses owned by HO.
PST
I don’t know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but there is a great new piece by Tom Levenson featured on The Atlantic website about a sexist response to the Royal Society’s award for best popular science book. The Hunt for Vulcan didn’t win, and a critic complained that the book that did win was a sop to a “feminine” style of science writing. The form in question, using biography to open a window onto a broader topic, characterizes much of the best science writing I can recall by men or women, something Tom explains elegantly and at length.
Baud
@PST: Tom’s good people.
The Dangerman
@gf120581:
They should; ALL they had was a name and Daddy done shit the bed there. Don’t cry for them, they’ll never be homeless, but, in a just world, they would have to go out and get a real job. IvanCaCA might be hirable to most outsiders; the Sons might be able to get a job in a Porn shoot.
Procopius
My Dog, it’s true! You really can’t make this stuff up.
MattF
@OzarkHillbilly: Giuliani is already over the edge, has hit the bottom of the abyss, then bounced a few times and rolled down into a rabbit hole. Has then eaten and drunk of the ‘eat me’ cookie and the ‘drink me’ flask of unknown liquid and then was offered and accepted the assignment of Maddest Hatter.
I could go on, but I’ve got a few chores to do.
Elizabelle
@efgoldman: I’ve always wondered how the kids didn’t pull him out before the formal nomination. Yes, he’s a narcissist who lives for any publicity, but how on earth could they think he wouldn’t incinerate the brand name? Or that his dubious business practices would not come to light, eventually?
Only surprise was that so many journalists passed on digging into Trump’s finances and past. It’s appalling that we all know the name of the one who stuck with it and did his job.
Also: efg: how is the Mrs? Is she right as rain now?
John Tully
This was an absolutely beautiful take-down of perennial goofball and Heritage flack Steve Moore by Bill Maher on Friday night. Hapless as usual, he trots out all the standard tropes about “terrible recovery” and the genius of Trump’s…er…economic plan. Pop some popcorn…
http://goo.gl/Oh9ruD
trnc
@Chris T.:
As someone said, “Updated Daily.”
Procopius
@AnderJ: I’ve got 47% in the pool. There’s something charmed about that number.
MattF
@Elizabelle: It’s the argument against eugenics. Reversion to the mean.
Chris T.
@Kay: This is why a higher top-end tax rate is so important. It’s not the be-all, end-all, but it is important. It acts as a sort of drag, increasing as income increases. Slow and steady makes progress, while quick and flashy gets dragged back.
Another, better I think, way to look at it is that money and wealth in society forms a sort of pyramid, with base income forming the base and higher income the higher layers. Obviously there can only be a few at the top—but a really tall and skinny pyramid falls over, while a short pyramid with a good solid base is much more stable. Having a very small tax, or no tax at all, at the bottom, with rapidly increasing tax rate as one approaches the top, keeps the pyramid from getting too tall-and-skinny, while still permitting individuals to move up and down within it.
Schlemazel
@Elizabelle:
They are gamblers and the pay off from daddy dearest being POTUS would be beyond the wildest dreams of sultans. They have grown up in a bubble that didn’t allow them to see how badly off-track he would go.
Chris
@opiejeanne:
I’m tired of articles about millennials, period.
The media’s gone from blaming us for the nation’s economy because we allegedly have no work ethic and are lazy and privileged (of course, what else can they say? That a bunch of CEOs fucked the world and we just caught the backlash head-on? I think not) to using us as a hammer to beat on Hillary Clinton with, breathlessly reporting every poll that shows she’s not winning us by 100% while somehow ignoring that Trump in particular and Republicans in general are doing far worse.
Yeah, at this point, I’ll be quite happy if I never read a “the thing about millennials is…” article again.
Chris T.
@Eric U.: It was meant to be darkly funny (hm, is that phrase racist? :-) ): Republican apologist for Republican racism successfully blames it on Democrats because of Cleek’s Law.
Chris
@Matt McIrvin:
What, no “and behind HILLARY’s big banks, the JEWS!” reference? How refreshing.
Matt McIrvin
@Princess: I’ve heard it as a “boy who cried wolf” argument: liberals became so fond of accusing everything and everyone of racism that real racism became impossible to detect. How that would work on people who didn’t buy into liberals’ arguments in the first place, short of just invoking Cleek’s Law as Chris T. did, I have no idea.
Betty Cracker
@Schlemazel: They are trashy, arrogant shitheads, just like their old man.
OzarkHillbilly
The Cardinals do it the right way:
And it turns into a fairy tale ending:
Matt McIrvin
@Chris: The specifically Berniac ones tend not to bring up “the Jews”, but I’m sure there are exceptions.
kirbster
Trump and his surrogates are stuck with this. Part of the Trump “brand” is “getting even” by a factor of at least 10 with people (especially relatively powerless people) who cross him. He got away with it for years and can’t adjust to the new reality that it’s all going to come back and bite him in the ass now that he’s running for POTUS against a tough-as-nails opponent, whose oppo research team has found and given voice to some of the “little guys” he wronged. It speaks volumes that none of Trump’s GOP rivals were willing to do the same. It has nothing to do with policy. They were all pushing the same shitty policies. It’s about temperament and appropriate response to perceived provocation (i.e., fitness for public office).
OzarkHillbilly
@MattF: I have to disagree, unless the hole you are referring to is the GOP, but then he was already there. What I want is for him to go so far over the edge that he is not even acceptable even there. A high bar I know, but why not reach for the stars?
amk
Since the locally spawned kkk racists didn’t cut it, apparently donnie dick is outsourcing the debate prep to that brexit racist.
Another Scott
Trump Old Post Office restaurant lawsuit deposition (52:03) is interesting, but unsurprising.
Of course. Donnie never prepares for anything.
Etc., etc.
(roll-eyes)
Cheers,
Scott.
OzarkHillbilly
@Elizabelle:
Because he and they are the best, the BEST by YOOOOGE margins. Really, they have been living in a bubble that keeps the real world several football field away. Their utter cluelessness does not surprise me at all.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@OzarkHillbilly:
Scott Simon just did a tribute to him on NPR’s Weekend Edition.
RaflW
Ha ha ha ha. Um, Rudy. We aren’t experiencing such disunity because our candidate isn’t a walking, talking freak-show of deep psychological problems, nor a bumbling petty larcenist with short fingers in 1000s of tills.
She may have her detractors in your party, but the amazing thing has been watching people exactly like me grow more and more proud of her, and willing to defend her, as the Trump ape has gone more and more nuts in the gilded cage of his own ego.
Best of all, Rudy, you’ve trashed what is left of your reputation, and your close pal Trump is ruining Christie and so many other GOPers. It’s a delight to behold!
gene108
@Joel:
I was a none voter back then, as a mid-20 something, because things were good and how badly could Bush, Jr screw things up.
By 2004, I learned my lesson and have become more politically engaged.
Edit: I was registered to vote, in the sprig of 1992, in my high school library. I voted in in 1992, 1994, and 1996, but after college I moved out of state and lost interest in politics and did not vote.
pluky
@Van Buren: Female young ones have reproductive rights to be worried about. Along with a less toxic hormonal stew.
OzarkHillbilly
@Chris: My sons are far better people than I.
RaflW
Any chance some reporters can get at the Values Voters Summit leaders to ask them how it’s going with their pious Christian base when Trump tweets to have America google a sex tape.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Matt McIrvin
@Procopius: And he still wants these people to run the country!
Kay
@Chris:
You’re a big group though, like “Baby Boomers” so get used to it.
There are whole business seminars on how to attract you :)
I heard a long piece on the radio about this guy who was tasked with making major league baseball attractive to younger people. It’s business. They don’t want to die and they will if all their customers are 50+.
different-church-lady
@m0nty:
It’s perfectly possible Trump will remarry before this thing is over.
RaflW
Also, too, though. There is something the press needs to stand up to.
Hey journalists! This is total bullshit. Do not let them get away with such weasel clam-ups.
Kay
@Chris:
A lot of it IS bullshit but business management in the US is often faddish and silly. You’re really pretty safe attracting the elusive younger customer by offering good service and good value. People don’t change that much- they’re not entirely different organisms :)
Chris T.
@RaflW:
But if they did that, the slippery slope would soon have them asking why McConnell won’t schedule a vote on Merrick Garland, or something!
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Shalimar:
Note that the NYT doesn’t ask him about his scam of a foundation. The NYT is a joke.
Another Scott
@opiejeanne:
Werd.
Our country does a lot of stupid things during elections, but if we look back over the last 10 years or so, there are some bridges that are too far even for us. Todd Aiken? David Duke? Linda McMahon? Some candidates are just too far out there to win, no matter how much “media buzz” they get.
Trump/Pence is worse than Wallace/LeMay (1968) who won 46 electoral votes and came within 1% in a few states of throwing the election to the House. The country is less overtly racist than back then, the country isn’t bogged down in a huge war in SE Asia, the cities aren’t burning as they were back then, etc. If Trump were a 3rd party candidate, he would have done worse than Wallace.
But since he has the GOP nomination, he’ll get a lot of automatic votes. :-(
I hope and expect that Trump will do worse than his current polling. He keeps digging, and there’s still so much crap about him that most voters don’t know. It seems to me that based on history, logic, the fact that most people really don’t want a racist know-nothing cheating conniving misogynist blowhard brain-damaged cowardly traitorous entitled thin-skinned sickly tired short-fingered vulgarian leader who surrounds himself with yes-men and incompetents, so he has nowhere to go but down, but we’ll see.
Cheers,
Scott.
(Who hopes the “OMG! You have to give me more money now!!1” e-mails drop off for a while.)
RaflW
Jonah Goldberg at NRO is a typical conservative twerp, IMO. But Will Saletan who I sorta respect said his latest was worth a read for the humor, and it has some good moments. This, in particular:
different-church-lady
@Baud: Elsewhere on the internet, the Trumpets were so thick with screaming and gloating in the days leading up to the debate, on a non-political board I hang on. They were making it almost unusable.
That lasted until about 24 hours after the debate, when it became obvious no amount of spin was going to put this in the win column for Trump and reality intruded into their Breitbart-reading consciousness. The air went out of them. Now there’s just the occasional half-hearted effort.
Soylent Green
People in their early 20s are very late millennials; this cohort as a whole starts with birthdays in the late 1970s. (The oldest ones are now in their late 30s.) I thought “echo boomers,” children of the boomers, was a more apt descriptor. I think there’s a pretty good spread of views across this age range. The older millennials, who came out strong for Obama in ’08, are more likely to vote and to vote Democratic. They are a hard working and largely successful bunch. The younger ones, Bernie’s core, appear to be more disaffected or malcontent. They are struggling economically and and more prone to “there’s no difference between the candidates” thinking. And more of them have absorbed the many lies about Hillary because they weren’t of age during her actual past.
dww44
Speaking of the WP, here’s the lead off op-ed in my opinion newsletter (after the editorial board anti Trump one) from George F. Will in which he makes a connection between the woes of the Chicago Cubs vis-a-vis a continuing fail on the part of the federal government.
While at this point we are heading, gratefully, for a defeat of Trump, his defeat is probably not gonna do much to diminish the anti federal government fervor that continues unabated on the right I am so sick of that meme of the government not doing anything right or being effective. It’s constant with the majority of friends and family and I’m so tired of it. That’s an area where Democrats could be more effective in crafting an opposing meme.
Tom
@Chris: Chris: Speaking as a 66 year old man, I second your emotion.
Steeplejack (phone)
@OzarkHillbilly:
Running errands and shopping much nicer on weekdays, too.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Soylent Green:
That age group has always been an unreliable group of voters. Always. Bernie committed political malpractice by relying on them as a strategy to win as a practical campaign matter, and as a long term strategy to get what he purports to believe in principle. There’s nothing about this particular group’s thinking at this time that is any different than previous generations of young people, about establishment politics. When you don’t become an important reliable voting bloc, you don’t get courted, and you don’t get your demands prioritized.
skyweaver
The GOP is worried Trump is “doing lasting harm to the party”? It still astounds me the lack of collective self-awareness. Trump didn’t spring from the vacuum of space, he’s the corpse flower in full bloom after years of fertilization. You can’t complain about the smell now, you guys.
RaflW
So the schadenfreude is delicious.
But if (when!) Trump loses in November, this same ego that can’t let Kahn or Machado will go birther X100 about the election process. It is critically important that he be brought as low as possible before the election.
Both because we need a convincing margin so that shit-eaters like McConnell and Ryan basically have to stand up and say “yeah, she won” and Trump needs to have his absolutely stunningly terrible character dragged thru the mud for the next 38 days so that his “she stole it!” rantings look like just that: rantings of an idiot loser.
It’s fun to speculate on the damage to the GOP. It is not fun to speculate on the all-too-possible damage to our electoral system if the vote is close and he spends years litigating the results in the media 24/7 circus.
And I firmly blame the entire GOP machinery for tilling the ground of “voter fraud” and voter ID. We are at a very risky moment.
Srv
I am definitely going to heed Mr. Trump’s advice and I will be watching sex tapes all day today. Do not disturb me libtards!
OzarkHillbilly
Gut punch of the day: Syrian Civil Defence volunteer weeps after rescuing baby from rubble in Idlib – video
scav
To an extent, the media need the “Dems / Clintion losing the millenials!” artlicles to balence out the “Rebips / Trump losing the minorities!” articles in oder to maintin their horserace noth for this race and in the future. In reality, thry’ll likely be the same mixed bag most generations have been — not to say they’ll be mixed in exactly the same way.
Elizabelle
@Srv: funny
RaflW
@Keith P.:
Trump is such a terrible manager that I would not be surprised to find out somewhere down the road that in fact he was taken to the cleaners, possibly repeatedly, and he’s just never even known it. The con man running a series of long cons might just have shysters as underlings. Particularly before his kids were old enough to do their evil hovering.
No reason not to think his early staff had their own schemes, skims and embezzlements running, since that was (and still mostly is) the Trump ‘business model.’ I doubt Trump has the ability (certainly not the attention span!) to track a detailed set of ledger books.
Matt McIrvin
@scav: The drop-off in support from young people is real. But they’ve also always been underrepresented in the electorate, because they don’t vote much in the first place. Mobilizing them is hard.
I just hope the polls we’re seeing are correctly modeling this in their LV screens. People spent a lot of time wondering why the models from major pollsters assumed such a white electorate; I think the drop-off in millennial intention to vote is why. In the US, old people are whiter.
SFAW
@gf120581:
Typo? Shouldn’t be “Children of the Con”?
Asking for a friend
ETA: Although given RaflW’s comment at 177, perhaps it’ll be “Children of the Conned”?
RaflW
@Splitting Image: Bobby Jindal … is getting more forgettable by the day.
Thank Pasta for small miracles!
OzarkHillbilly
What makes you think the kids aren’t the new shysters?
ETA for you @RaflW:
SFAW
@Srv:
“Cleanup in Aisle Srv!”
ed
@Procopius: Mr 9/11 should know, they are trying to capitalize on that very emotion. Hoist by their own Petard!
lurker dean
@satby: good to hear things are going well! a while ago you posted a link to your house, it’s really lovely!
scav
@Matt McIrvin: I’m not really surprised or really that concerned if there is a variation, because there’s a lot more to learn. It’d be interesting to know how the drop-off compares over a longer horizon. It could be that the recent spike in participation was a return to mean after an unusual high. Etc Etc. Could entirely be something going on, although it could also just be youth busy being youth, never trusting anyone over thirty etc. But I still lean to the horse race / false balence thing might be more important for why the initial nugget of information gets so widely reported.
RaflW
@gf120581:
Dunno how the data would get out, but I sure would like to see how bookings are going at Trump hotels, as well as sales of other Trump crapola. Sure there are some wingers who will go out of their way to stay at his gold-plated-plasticine hotels, or buy his ties and trinkets, but the brand has got to be taking huge hits.
A nice side of Haha! to go with my GOP schadenfreude main course.
OzarkHillbilly
@lurker dean: Where was the link? I’d like to see it.
Iowa Old Lady
@satby: I always liked being able to run errands on weekdays because the stores are so much less crowded.
OzarkHillbilly
@RaflW: I read a while back that a credit card company (or some such) has reported something like a 10% drop in use at his properties.
sigaba
@Soylent Green: I was born in ’79 and have always been considered Generation X, but only just. My brother was born in 1983 though his generation was only called “Generation Y,” I associate milenials with people who were born in the 90s, the people in their 20s who are all PAs at my production company, who have no knowledge of New Kids on The Block or OK Cola.
In other news, the Anglosphere’s most brilliant racist is seconded to Trumpland.
I guess Farage has a really good reputation as a debater though I think the bigger question is is Nigel someone who can actually get Donald to the point where he admits he did badly and he needs help?
RSR
Anyone else having Chrome browser memory issues with the site since the recent updates?
For me, according to Chrome task manager, the site seems to chew up more and more memory the longer the tab is opened without refreshing, sometimes resulting in noticeable performance issues for the browser.
This is on Win10, Chrome Version 53.0.2785.143 m.
ETA: Actually, refreshing the tab doesn’t fix it. I have to close the tab and open another to clear the memory usage.
eyelessgame
Still 37 days to go. She just had a good week, but it came off of a couple of bad ones. Steady as she goes – don’t get cocky. More shit will come flying.
greennotGreen
@OzarkHillbilly: Forbes says so.
geg6
@RaflW:
I believe the data is there and that it shows bookings are down significantly this year. Too lazy to google it but I know I’ve seen this mentioned numerous times in various media. I’ve got to think that availability and pricing on places like hotels.com and other booking sites would give a good indication of how close to capacity his properties are and you could compare that with the same information from a year ago. All he has is his brand and he’s killing it. And I fucking love it.
Another Scott
@RSR: I haven’t noticed any issues like that. But your question made me do some searching.
Shift-Esc calls up Chrome’s Task Manager. I have about 30 tabs open on Win10. It says the Balloon-Juice tab is taking about 91 MB at the moment. I’m running uBlock Origin and Cleek’s pie filter with TamperMonkey and FlashBlock. I’ve also blocked the HTML5 autoplay videos on the right column and am working on blocking the adpop-1 “popunder” ads that have recently appeared (mostly on other tabs).
Gmail is the RAM hog for me – about 250 MB each.
Usually when Chrome (or any browser) starts acting weird, it’s a plugin or other add-on rather than the browser itself.
HTH a little. Good luck.
Cheers,
Scott.
OzarkHillbilly
@greennotGreen: Good to hear it’s not just some jumbled memory I am dragging up out of the dredges of my 58 yr old brain.
lurker dean
@OzarkHillbilly: satby posted it on BJ probably within the last week or so, but i don’t remember the link or the thread. sorry!
catclub
@debbie: I also liked to take it as a slam against the magazine Commentary. Anything not Torah – that’s Commentary.
Uncle Cosmo
@eclare: Did you say you’re a vole? Could you kindly contact your brethren who’ve been using my digs as an AirB&B & ask them to get their furry tails the flock outa here??
Ken
@Princess: I love it that Trump Tower is hoping that they’ll get more interest and traffic when the big Apple store opens next door. Just like the Arby’s on the other side of the Apple site.
Mike J
@Eric U.:
Thank you. Too many people think rain turns mountain biking into a mountain dew commercial. All it does is destroy our trails, and there are never enough of those to begin with.
OGLiberal
At this point, and before he even announced his run, Trump is primarily a reality TV star. People these days watch reality TV to see sh*t shows and train wrecks. Perhaps Trump’s strategy is to set himself up nicely for his next TV gig. The problem is that most Republicans in this country think a sh*t show and train wreck will make a great president.
scav
I’ll throw it here so as to leave the music thread clean. The digital nights are still the being mildly skirmished. Clinton mocks Trump with 3am tweets on national service scholarships. Should have known this was already lined up when I read the Warren tweet yesterday.
OzarkHillbilly
@lurker dean: OK, thanx. I’ll ask her tomorrow am.
Betty Cracker
@sigaba: Matt Yglesias pointed out Farage is just another foreigner taking a debate prep job!
Gelfling 545
@Kay: Well, they’re walking a fine line here. If the don’t support Daddy Dearest in every way they’re out of the will. If they do support his foolishness they can kiss their brand goodby. It’s a dilema. Looks like lose/lose to me and it couldn’t happen to anyone more deserving.
RSR
@Another Scott: Thanks for the info. I don’t really run any blockers (other than not auto-loading flash items), but I may have to explore a bit. Somethings definitely changed for me.
sigaba
Actually I saw this definition of a Millenial and seems about right: A Millenial is anyone who has never experienced an election without Facebook.
phoebes from highland park
@Another Scott: Another Scott, do you know if there is a written transcript of that deposition? I tried listening to it last night but Trump’s voice is so annoying that I could only listen to about 10 minutes. Thanks.
Iowa Old Lady
@Another Scott: I too am tempted by the claims that the polling is off, but I’ve rolled my eyes too many time at Republicans talking about skewing, or silent majority, or missing white voter. Until this is over, I believe the polls and work to GOTV for the good guys.
OzarkHillbilly
@Mike J: Heh. One mid Oct day my sons and I were camped out on a trial when the weather went south: Rain rain and more rain with temps in the upper 40s or so. A good day to sit under a tarp with a fire and a book, so that is what we did. A group of 10 or so bikers came thru with a couple on the edge of hypothermia. After a half hour most had resolved to finish the trail but one gal had had enuf. She stayed by our fire until somebody came back with a car to pick her up.
Another Scott
@phoebes from highland park: Jim Newell “live blogged” it and has pointers to a transcript. (Warning – Slate link!! ;-)
HTH.
Cheers,
Scott.
RaflW
@OzarkHillbilly: Thanks! If that trend holds up, it’ll be significant. Overall hotel occupancy and revenue are up, so a drop is a double-whammy. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving family.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@OzarkHillbilly:
Dave’s not here, man…
RaflW
@RSR: I’ve been having lots of site stability issues since the last update. Even had a very courteous email exchange with Alain (he’s incredibly nice). The video advert on the right bar eventually crashes the page. Apparently JC needs the ad dollars, but it is a PITA.
ETA: You’re right! The memory usage is creeping up. I’ll email Alain and ask about that.
Matt McIrvin
@Iowa Old Lady: During a presidential campaign, I always, always assume the polls are off in our direction and the real results will be worse. So far, ever since people started aggregating state polls, they’ve been right on. But that’s only really been a thing since about 2004, and it’s entirely possible that this election is different in some systematic way–people seem generally less enthusiastic about voting for President than they’ve been in any of those past elections.
phoebes from highland park
@geg6: The other day my son told me he had gone on a Priceline type site to book a “staycation” here in Chicago for he and his wife. Of the five choices in his price, the Trump hotel was one of the possible places. Because you have to take the choice, he declined to book that way because there’s no way he or his wife (or his wife’s mother) would ever stay at a Trump property. (I do have to say that the Trump Tower is a spectacular building here, beautifully and interestingly-positioned on the river, and while I’d love to go inside, I never will til they take those huge letters – TRUMP – off the building. Hopefully I won’t have to wait too long.)
SFAW
@phoebes from highland park:
They might be tattooed on, you know.
Amir Khalid
@Betty Cracker:
I’m not sure how that will help. Donald’s problem is that he doesn’t take advice on board or follow it. Donald isn’t going to listen to Nigel Farage, any more than he listened to his other debate coaches.
SFAW
@West of the Rockies (been a while):
No, man, I’m Dave!
phoebes from highland park
@Another Scott: Thanks, I found it. And I didn’t mind going to Slate.
Kay
Unbelievable. They cannot stop kissing his ass. Thirty freaking years he’s been using them and they line up and beg for more.
There is NO news value here. None.
Shell
Cold, rainy and gray here. Wish I was sitting with Walter in front of that fireplace.
Vice-Presidential debate coming up. Too bad we can’t watch Biden again.
eyelessgame
… it’s pretty obvious Trump’s going to use the R-word about Bill at the next debate, and accuse Hillary Clinton of being an enabler and covering it up.
I cannot find a way that this rebounds to Trump’s benefit, but it will make the whole thing inexpressibly uglier. Because it wasn’t ugly enough already.
sukabi
@Kay: from the recent lawsuits, it’s not so much an original brand as a cheap knockoff business.
Don’t know if you can attribute all or even part of ghouliani’s latest public racism to the drumpf bubble, he’s been saying a bunch of objectionable things for a looooong time plus he’s getting pretty long in the tooth, might be, like drumpf, his filter just doesn’t work any more.
patrick II
@sukabi:
Yes, Giuliani has always been repellent, but Trump gives him the platform and the permission to say the things out loud in a manner I haven’t heard spoken except in private for a long time. It is no accident that we are hearing from the KKK and the various alt-right racists. If Trump, the leader of one of America’s two major political parties, can say Mexican immigrants are nothing but rapists and murderers, they can say as much or worse. Trump empowers the worst in america, from Giuliani down to the lowest violent thug at his rallies that beat up those brave enough to disagree.
Frankensteinbeck
@Kay:
They think they’re RIGHT. They think whatever racist shit they spout is true. To go with an example from someone not in this election, they think stuff like ‘Asians are bad drivers.’ If it’s true, how could anyone reasonable object to them saying it?
patrick II
@Chris T.:
It’s quite simple:
If that were true, the contrary would also true:
If democrats (especially Obama) were for racism, then:
Republicans would all be equality driven integrationists.
I don’t think so.
Snarki, child of Loki
@amk:
It really is DEPLORABLE how Obama held a gun to the head of the GOP primary voters, and FORCED them to vote for Trump. Really, that tears it, I’m NEVER voting for Obama again.
The Lodger
@Kay: The top two? David Duke would like a word with you.
Ruckus
@gene108:
Yes, Trump is having difficulties, he can no longer hide his true personality. His ability to hide behind a thin layer of respectability for him and his brand isn’t protecting him anymore. Because he’s worn out that layer to expose his true self.
Joel
Who is capitalized srv? I’ve always had lowercase srv pegged for DougJ.
Ruckus
@gene108:
Well they do hope to catch the angry young white males. They don’t seem to understand that isn’t a winning strategy any longer.
Ruckus
@The Dangerman:
As the copier repairman who couldn’t get it up?
Applejinx
@sigaba: They’ll run out of coke, get in a fistfight over the last bump and Nigel will fly home in a huff.
Just because they’re both monsters doesn’t at all mean they’ll get along if they had to actually work on something.
Amir Khalid
@sigaba:
That story appears to imply that Farage is a Tory, which he hasn’t been since he left the Conservatives in 1992 to help found the UK Independence Party (UKIP). UKIP is well to the right of the Tories.
Ruckus
@sukabi:
Filters get clogged when too much shit is pushed through them. At that point they don’t pass anything or they break and all the crap that was filtered out goes right into the machinery. Some old geezers forget to change the filters.
Wolvesvalley
@Keith P.: This thread is probably dead by now, and someone else may have already mentioned it, but here is Kevin Drum’s account, during the Republican convention, of how Trump was swindled by Tom Barrack in the deal for the Plaza Hotel (which Barrack bragged about at the convention as an example of Trump’s great negotiation skills).
Wolvesvalley
Well, rats. The link seems to be in the reply button. Trying again.
Wolvesvalley
Dunno what I’m doing wrong (I’m using the link button), but if you want to read Kevin’s piece, click the reply button.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
After watching what Hillary (two Ls) did to Trump this week, does anyone think Putin is secretly backing him because he’s terrified of what she might do him as president if this is what does to a fellow citizen?
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Keith P.:
Who says he hasn’t? Trump would never admit he was suckered.
JR in WV
@OzarkHillbilly:
I started to post that exact question, but then thought, “It’s been up so long, I know one of my compatriots here has done that already!”
Thanks for taking of things while I was busy!
JR in WV
@Matt McIrvin:
And how many people won’t eat at Denney’s or Cracker Barrel because of their well known bigotry? Count my family for one!
Plus, Denny’s food is truly terrible by design. Some food at Cracker Barrel is acceptable, but they are always located beside better food availability. I would prefer Taco Bell’s artificial food to Denny’s ruined real food.
opiejeanne
@Chris: Two of my kids are millennials (I think, not sure where the upper cut-off is) and I know many of their older and younger friends, all of whom are independent of their parents ( quite an achievement for some of them), have jobs/run businesses, and are good people. Some are harder working than others, but so is every other generation.
What I truly despise is this pigeon-holing of a block of people. They do it with POC, with women, with the elderly, with Boomers (which we are), Yuppies,Gen X, Gen Y, Millenials, etc. and I hate this racist, sexist, generations crapola.
tofubo
well, having your nominee and surrogates stop saying rascist, sexist shit, that would be a start…