And I’m not talking about the Alabama teenagers pranking easily frightened authority figures…
This image says it all. Let's end the politically correct agenda that doesn't put America first. #trump2016 pic.twitter.com/9fHwog7ssN
— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) September 19, 2016
He’s his old man’s son, that’s for sure…
“the chance of an American being murdered in a terrorist attack caused by a refugee is 1 in 3.64 billion per year” https://t.co/ZWsr8SsRLK https://t.co/NPsUxPhsFV
— Elise Foley (@elisefoley) September 20, 2016
And, crucially, refugees are human beings desperately seeking safety, not inanimate edible candies. https://t.co/qXQBrNTZQ3
— Christopher Hayes (@chrislhayes) September 20, 2016
… not only is it a disgusting metaphor, Don Jr. ripped it off without attribution… and from “the best” sources, too:
Hey @DonaldJTrumpJr, that's the point I made last month.
Glad you agree. pic.twitter.com/Nssw6KC1HY
— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) September 20, 2016
If you think the choice of Skittles is accidental here, you haven't seen the George Zimmerman alt right fan memes. pic.twitter.com/OlZoMgHkze
— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) September 20, 2016
Mary G
The Skittles rep had a killer response: Skittles are candy. Refugees are people. Not a good analogy.
Amir Khalid
I take it that the Joe Walsh whose tweet is up there is not the guitar player, but the failed Republican politician.
Mary G
@Amir Khalid: Yes, he’s on the radio someplace spewing hatred.
Groucho48
I’d respond to Trump by grabbing a handful because I know he’s a liar and a fear-monger.
But, seriously. What is that supposed to mean? That all Skittles are poison? That if I took more than two, you would kill me for stealing your Skittles? I can’t think of anything that makes that question make any sense.
Calouste
Apparently former president George H.W. Bush has said he is going to vote for Hillary Clinton.
hellslittlestangel
How has the Little Gloves campaign not managed to hire Joe Walsh? He’d be so great on women’s issues or minority outreach.
amk
Can skittles sue these thugs for tarnishing their brand?
Mary G
@Groucho48: It’s appealing to the pant wetters. Since three Syrian refugees might be terrorists, we can’t allow any Syrian refugees.
JordanRules
SI reporting that mothereffing Frank Luntz is advising Carolina Panthers and their QB Cam Newton on dealing with this whole racial fracas that Kaepernick has ignited within the league.
Damnet Cam. Do better.
The pic of the QB’s that went viral when they met before the game this past weekend is just amazing.
Anne Laurie
@hellslittlestangel:
Walsh is not a real plumber, but he probably learned enough during his apprenticeship to demand payment up front when dealing with a “developer” like Trump. And Trump, of course, never pays in advance if he thinks he can escape doing so afterwards.
Groucho48
@Mary G:
I figured that’s what he was trying to say. He just didn’t say it in a way that made sense. If you are going to steal a talking point, you should at least steal one that makes your point obvious. Otoh, very few right wing talking points make sense, so, there’s that.
Tom Q
@Calouste: I’ve been telling friends for months that this was going to happen, though I’d not have expected it to become public knowledge. Bill and Hillary have been good friends with the elder Bushes for some time, while Trump spent the better part of a year humiliating their son (and later trashing their other son). This was an obvious development.
magurakurin
Jill Stein is officially the enemy. She’s saying Clinton is more dangerous than Shitgibbon. She wants Shitgibbon to win. She knows she is only drawing votes from Clinton, so her campaign is now purely an effort to help the fascist win. Stein will burn in a special place in Hell for this no matter who wins.
Amir Khalid
@magurakurin:
The “progressive” left in America seems to hate Hillary, the most progressive candidate still in the race, far more than it fears the damage Trump could do. I find this an alarming and self-destructive attitude.
magurakurin
@Amir Khalid: They always been like that. I’ve know those sorts all my life. Most tend to be trust fund kids or other fairly well off older folks. Lots of old hippies that like to tell you how “you missed it.” There is a reason that my generation and Obama’s is called Generation Jones. I’ve always hated those new-agey, faux-green, lefty types. They have an authoritarian streak that shows way more than they realize.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@magurakurin: Dr. Stein can share a BBQ spit with St. Ralph.
Chris
@magurakurin:
@Amir Khalid:
“Nach Hitler, Uns.”
Anne Laurie
@magurakurin: May every one of HRClinton’s enemies be as ineffective and pathetic as Jill Stein:
Luthe
The whole Skittles analogy reminds me of Louis C.K.’s bit on women dating men: it’s like going out with a bear, but you don’t know if it’s a nice bear or a man-eater. And there’s a high probability of it being a man-eater.
Of course, the danger from refugees is practically nil, while the danger from men against women is very real. And yet Trump doesn’t spend any time at all on gender violence.
It’s almost like there is another force at work here. I can’t quite put my finger on it…
magurakurin
@Chris: basically. And they sit in their ivory towers of privilege and go on about revolution…as if they had any idea what that would really mean or entail.
magurakurin
@Anne Laurie: lol. what a moran!
Chris
@magurakurin:
One of the interesting realizations I’ve had during this campaign is that, despite being supposedly on opposite sides of the Democratic Party, the “Berniebro” hard left fringe and the “DLC” corporate centrist types have a hell of a lot in common.
piratedan
it has everything a GOP meme needs…
1) crappy analogy … check
2) being factually inaccurate… check
3) doing the fear thang…. check
4) bashing immigrants…. check
5) dog whistle….. check
and the scary part is, you’ll see this shit everywhere on twitter and facebook tomorrow.
piratedan
@magurakurin: but they have the purist ponies… why they’re so pure, they could almost be unicorns…
Amir Khalid
@Anne Laurie:
I remember that when my meds were keeping my blood pressure just a little too low (like, 87/60) i was prone to fainting spells.
BR
I think a great comeback to Stein voters is to point out that somehow she has no public accomplishments in her life, unlike Nader, and yet is a multi-millionaire with $7m in the bank.
BR
Also, to those Stein voters who say “I want to vote for someone who agrees with me on the issues.” you can suggest that they write themselves in — no compromises and you don’t have to be voting for someone who’s a multi-millionaire fraud like Stein.
trnc
If I had a pack of cigarettes and told you that they kill 480,000 people per year, would you ban them, or would you instead focus on significantly lower threats? That’s our pampered asshole problem.
I don’t tweet. If anyone finds anything useful above, feel free to tweet.
magurakurin
@Chris: I’d wager that a large part of the first group are the children of the second. Not entirely of course, but, yeah, you are right. It’s a silly family squabble that misses the forest for the trees. They are fighting over what to do as if they had already secured a victory of the forces of conservatism and fascism. In truth it’s the Battle of the Somme and the outcome of the war is very, very uncertain at this moment in history. Fools.
Splitting Image
@Chris:
The main difference I can see is that the Berniebro types consider it a major character flaw when a Democrat is willing to work with Republicans like Jon Huntsman or Robert Gates but have no problem whatsoever making common cause with Republicans like Rand Paul or the shouty Oompa Loompa. The former are likely to impede social progress, which is unforgivable, while the radical ones will probably destroy Western civilization, which apparently is not.
magurakurin
@BR: The sad part is that Hillary Clinton agrees with like 95% of any policy issues they hold. And the real mystery figures are the ones going Johnson. Because Johnson is the polar opposite of Sanders…or Clinton. Johnson: abolish the federal minimum wage, no federal money for higher ed or healthcare, and impose a horrible regressive consumption tax. madness.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@magurakurin: The main difference is that, contrary to popular myth, the British learned how to win trench warfare over the months on the Somme, and kept changing their tactics, their logistics, indeed their whole approach, until they figured out what worked.
So far as I can tell, the American Greens are completely incapable of learning or changing anything.
J R in WV
So! The back button returns you to the previous Web Page, and not the previous comment when you are trying to navigate comments in the thread. Both on Firefox And on Chrome, on Ubuntu 14.04.
Omnes commented on another thread that it did it on Windows 10/Firefox. IIRC. At least it is something that broke before, Alain commented about it, and fixed it. Here’s hoping he remembers/can look up what he did to fix it last time.
If this is the only bug, still a very good job!
Big Picture Pathologist
@Anne Laurie:
Blood pressure is often quite variable in the same person throughout the day. Thsee measurements honestly mean diddly unless they are consistently and dangerously low or high.
Steeplejack
@Big Picture Pathologist:
All of which Dr. Jill Stein should know, of course.
Eh, I took the exchange as a bit of a joke that (mildly) rebounded on her.
ETA: Although, with Stein, I would not be completely surprised to learn that this is a big fucking deal to her and she has deployed all her considerable resources to fight this corporatist lie!
delk
Joe Walsh was just speaking to some republican groups (including the Park Ridge Republican Women — Hillary’s home town) here a couple days ago. He said he likes Trump, but Trump has to be smoking something if he thinks he is going to win Illinois.
He then told them to not worry about Trump, to forget about him and just vote down ticket.
Anne Laurie
@Big Picture Pathologist: Oh, I’m sure you’re right! The joke is that a supposed medical doctor should be so proud of having a “better” number than her political opponent… and so crestfallen when proven wrong.
Not to insult the entire profession, but Dr. Stein (like Dr. Ben Carson) feeds all the sarcasm about people who think getting an M.D. makes them an expert at everything. Also the snark from other medical specialists, that the most important skill for a pediatrician in a well-to-do American community is to be able to stay on top of & argue convincingly in favor of all the very latest medical fads — like, for instance, whether vaccines are necessary, or the possibility that wifi causes cancer. Theory being that 85% of Dr. Stein’s former career would’ve been well-baby visits where projecting a reassuring conviction that no passing ear infection or skin rash was liable to influence a baby’s chances of acceptance at a top-10 university would’ve been more essential than any actual medical information…
amorphous
@Groucho48: trayvon. it’s an dogwhistle to trayvon.
Cacti
I’d vote for a bag of skittles over Donald Trump.
Aleta
Something I noticed about Stein today; quotes from her in Esquire that is.
This summer a 19 year old boy I’ve known since he was born, and spent time with every summer, said the exact same thing. But in his case he was drunk or stoned on something, and has been for most of the the last two years it seems. Unlike Stein (I imagine) he was willing to listen to reasonable argument against what he’d just said, talk back and forth, and modify a few ideas to preserve his argument. (Granted I’d just bought him a pizza and a cheeseburger. Still.)
Amir Khalid
@Aleta:
If this is to say that Dr Stein’s supporters want a president who doesn’t know how to work with Congress because then she can’t do any harm …well, words fail me.
Betty Cracker
Sometimes I wonder if Trump Jr. is an actual neo-Nazi rather than a garden-variety hateful bigot like his old man.
Joey Maloney
Skittles has a response:
Mai.naem.mobile
I don’t know who makes Skittles but I would be suing Trump Jr’s ass for damaging their brand. Is Usay one of the kids who didn’t vote or was that Qusay? Also is Usay the dark haired one or Qusay because I think the dark haired one is the result of an affair between Ivana and Ivankas ski instructor or maybe Rafalkas stable boy.
sukabi
@Mai.naem.mobile: unfortunately they both look like drumpf, have the same dead eyes, and “superior” smirk on their mugs. If any of his kids are the product of Ivana diddling the help I’d go with Ivanka…she doesn’t look like him.
James E Powell
@Amir Khalid:
There has been a similar “left’ hatred of the Democratic candidate in every election I can recall since 1980. The reason is that the “left” can never hope to get votes from anywhere but the left end of the Democratic candidate’s supporters.
Splitting Image
@Aleta:
This is an occasionally useful way of comparing politicians. Rob Ford generated a lot of laughter as mayor of Toronto, but he antagonized the entire city council and ended up achieving almost nothing. Stephen Harper, on the other hand, was an astute politician and passed a good deal of his agenda as Prime Minister of Canada. Harper would have been less dangerous if he’d been as stupid as Ford.
The analogy doesn’t work for the President though. It’s certainly true that Clinton is smarter than Trump, but if Trump becomes President, there will never be a situation where he has to push legislation through Congress. If the GOP controls both houses, they’ll just push through their entire platform and Trump will docilely sign anything that comes his way. If Clinton is facing a GOP Congress, she’ll have her work cut out for her getting anything done. The truth is the opposite of what Stein is saying. She is either stupid or lying.
Phylllis
@Splitting Image:
I vote for both.
Pseudonymous Bosch
I saw this stupid fucking meme on my twitface feed better than a year ago (only with M&Ms instead of skittles.) Fucking bed-wetting assholes.
Gin & Tonic
@Phylllis: Indeed. This is the woman who goes on Russian TV and justifies Putin’s actions by saying “Russia used to own Ukraine.”
Well, yeah, in the way Great Britain used to own what is now the United States. Fucking moron.
Matt McIrvin
@magurakurin:
There is no mystery. Johnson has a johnson. That’s all there is to it.
Woodrowfan
@magurakurin: and WHITE. it’s a form of white privilege.
Starfish
A lot of the talking points from the campaign are points that have been brewing in the right wing for a long time. For example, the whole “Hillary has Parkinson’s” thing has been a speculation of random right wing bloggers for over a year. It’s really weird to go back and see where these ideas came from.
FlipYrWhig
Has any Syrian refugee been linked to terrorism in America? Because it certainly seems like the Republican Party is trying to fool people into thinking that Syrian refugees, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Muslims, Arabs, and terrorists are five names for the same thing.
FlipYrWhig
@Matt McIrvin: Johnson likes weed and thus is cool. That’s it.
sublime33
Replace “Syrian refugees” with “republican candidates for president.”
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
If the skittles were the Trump clan, they’d all be poison, not just three of them.
Adam C
If I had a bowl of Skittles and said three of them could kill you, would you take that opportunity to gut the food inspection system?
dlw32
It’s an odious metaphor, but let’s run with it for a second.
There’s a bowl of skittles and 3 are poisoned. But you don’t actually draw from that bowl, you draw from the bowl marked USA. And before we put any skittles into the USA bowl, it spends 18 months being inspected. Oh, and the people who keep shouting about the poison personally gain if they can keep you afraid of eating skittles.
Yeah, it’s deeply stupid.
Robin Gittelman
@Betty Cracker: Oh, I don’t wonder . . .
Ian
@Cacti:
I’d vote for a bag of skittles with 3 arsenic pills in it before I would vote for Trump.
waysel
@amorphous: Yup. Skittles/Trayvon Martin/ Dog whistle.
Seanly
I hate Illinois nazis
I hate racists. Trump should lose just based on being a rabid racist douchecanoe. Long sigh, Capt Picard facepalm.
Mike Toreno
@Mary G: The Skittles rep had WHAT kind of response???? Leaving that aside, though, it IS a good analogy. If somebody told me three Skittles would kill me, YES I would take a handful, because I know that neither three Skittles nor a handful will kill me and anyone who says they will is a liar.
OH, now I see what the original was getting at. The Trump version changes the wording to make it even more ridiculous than it was in the first place.
waysel
@Pseudonymous Bosch: Further proof that Skittles are a Trayvon related dog whistle.
louc
It gets better. The photographer who took that picture of the Skittles? A refugee.
Aleta
@Amir Khalid: The argument from Stein and my young friend is the absurd assumption that Trump could be contained by handlers and by Congress; and therefore his dangerous proposals would have little chance of coming true. Whereas (in their minds), no one would control (the inevitably ruinous) policies of (the rapacious insider) HRC. It’s horrific self-justification on Stein’s part.
The right wing machine has put similar argument into the mouths of people around my home: the unknown Trump is a better bet than a known evil. “At least he’ll change things,” someone said. And Trump used the same line on AA voters: You’re badly off now, so “what have you got to lose” by taking a chance on me?
Michaelangelo Allocca
@Amir Khalid: You mean the failed human being, don’t you? Being the perfect scumbag that he is, I think he’s pretty successful at being a Republican politician.