But you need to bring your own popcorn!
Here’s the live feed for Secretary Clinton’s speech/rally in Nevada. Below it is the link to the live feed for the Trump speech/rally in New Hampshire that is ongoing. Fair and balanced, both sides, shapes of earth, etc, etc…
schrodinger's cat
Why is Trump wasting his time in NH?
Comrade Jake
Is it too late for Trump to turn Mike Pence into a Latina? I wonder if he’d agree if asked…
The Ancient Randonnuer
@schrodinger’s cat: Quick helicopter flight back to Trump Tower for the night.
dmsilev
CNN chyron; Trump: refugees could be all-time Trojan Horse.
Beyond ‘be afraid of the brown-skin boogeyman’, does that mean anything?
Adam L Silverman
@Comrade Jake: I’m not sure that the teams in either Durango, Colorado or Sweden that specialize in such things can actually pull off both a gender and ethnicity reassignment surgery. The former yes, the latter not so much…
redshirt
Can I get some peanuts and Cracker Jacks?
eclare
Thanks Adam!
geg6
@The Ancient Randonnuer:
This.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: I’ll allow Chicago Mix, but that’s as far as I go!
redshirt
@schrodinger’s cat: NH might be considered a swing state. There’s some small justification. But Maine? CT? New York? New Jersey? Makes no sense at all, other than the “Close to home” theory of campaign travels.
But then, why Mississippi?
NorthLeft12
Okay, I watched Trump first…….does that make me a bad person?
As usual, Trump blames political correctness and claims there is no possible way to vet the refugees coming from Syria/Middle East.
Funny, we are doing it up here in Canada. Probably +30K and counting, but of course I guess we are either more efficient or are more reckless than the US.
Betty Cracker
@Comrade Jake: Okay, that made me guffaw loudly enough to wake the dogs up! You know Pence would do it to keep his seat on the Grift Express!
redshirt
@The Ancient Randonnuer: Can you really fly a helicopter from Manchester to NYC? Sincerely asking, I don’t know the range.
Urza
I cannot believe that orange colored douchebag is going on about having Hillary give up her security detail cause it means she’s like a dictator, when he has his own secret service people and has encouraged his moronic followers to use second amendment remedies on her.
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: Wow! Never heard of Chicago Mix before. Looks tasty!
schrodinger's cat
@redshirt: Obama won it twice and Hillary is ahead of where PBO was in 2012 at this stage of the game.
catclub
@schrodinger’s cat:
Wyoming is too far from home for him.
The Ancient Randonnuer
@redshirt: Yes. Most helicopter charter companies in New England fly regularly between NYC and Boston which is about the same distance.
slag
@dmsilev: Yeah. It also means: “How. White man come in peace.” Sounds familiar for some reason.
Adam L Silverman
Also, since the doors opened at 10 AM PDT and the event goes to 2 PM PDT, Figure her remarks won’t start till sometime around 4 PM EDT.
redshirt
@schrodinger’s cat: I said “might”. Of all the New England states it will probably be the closest. But the real reason probably is it’s close to NYC.
Why does’t Donnie go to Boston more often I wonder?
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: Yes. Though, of course, it depends on the helicopter.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: I have to stay far away from it. One handful is too much. Three to five bags are never enough!
schrodinger's cat
@redshirt: So far I have seen one Trump bumper stickah, but then I live in Bernie country.
dmsilev
@redshirt: He probably flew in on his plane; Manchester has a decent-sized airport.
Stan
TRUMP helicopters have a lot of stamina. Yuuuuge stamina, they can go for hours.
Matt McIrvin
@schrodinger’s cat: There was an extended period this cycle when NH was practically tied up, and one poll there in July that showed him way ahead. Clinton has had a solid lead in more recent polling, though–but if the race were to tighten up nationally again, NH would probably be one of the critical states close to the 270 threshold.
So it makes a little bit of sense to campaign there. Not as much as concentrating on Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida, which are absolute must-win for him. The campaign keeps saying they’re going to shift to concentrating on those states, but Trump doesn’t actually go and do it.
dmsilev
@Adam L Silverman:
Well, there is the team that deblackified Michael Jackson; they should have the necessary skills.
Shell
Trump bellows “Hillary is in hiding!”
Right before her big speech in NV.
Corner Stone
@dmsilev: Clearly this is a job for Team America: World Police!
Valmorification
mali muso
Here she is!!!
Corner Stone
The She Devil has taken the stage!
No, I mean she grabbed it and walked off back into hiding.
dmsilev
@Corner Stone: In-kind donation to the Foundation, I assume?
Corner Stone
@dmsilev: All for The Foundation! (insert goat sacrifice vine here)
Corner Stone
Ruh Roh…here we go.
Pangloss
This Clinton speech is only a few minutes in, and it’s already leaving ugly marks.
Patricia Kayden
@schrodinger’s cat: A lot of White people live in NH and he wants to maximize the White vote, I guess.
Corner Stone
“There is no other Donald Trump. This is it.”
Corner Stone
Shoutout to Maya Angelou!
mali muso
She just seems so calm, collected and dare-I-say-it, Presidential.
Corner Stone
“The so called…Birthers”
Yeee-ouch!
Mnemosyne
@Adam L Silverman:
I grew up near Chicago and lived there until I was 18 and I swear I never even heard of Chicago Mix popcorn until recently. These kids with their fancy popcorn need to get off my lawn now.
Pangloss
Don’t forget calling for the death penalty for Central Park 5, Hillary.
Calouste
OT, but Jeremy Corbyn keeps nicely demonstrating what happens when purity trolls take over a major political party. The Labour Party might not be able to hold it’s conference, because they can’t find a security company pure enough to protect it. The conference is at the end of next month.
dmsilev
@Corner Stone: But, but, the media assured us that Trump was pivoting to I Is Serious Candidate Now mode.
Corner Stone
Yeah! Stick Paul Ryan in there against Trump!
Mnemosyne
So, did Hillary time her rally specifically so Donald will not be able to live-tweet it and be driven insane by his inability to hit back?
One can only hope.
Trentrunner
The prosecutor is prosecuting the case.
The jury is rapt.
The defendant has just wet himself.
Corner Stone
What does the Trump scampaign do after this? It’s brutal.
BR
Are networks covering Clinton’s speech?
Patricia Kayden
Secretary Clinton is hitting it!! She has Trump’s number.
dmsilev
@Mnemosyne: If the gods love us very much, someone will prompt Trump while he’s still on stage and we’ll get a truly unfiltered reaction from him.
The Ancient Randonnuer
Wow! She’s got the brass knuckles out and swinging for Trump’s glass jaw.
mali muso
All I can say is “Donald, dream on”…effortless laughter.
I’m loving this. :)
Iowa Old Lady
@Mnemosyne: To my dismay, Trump hasn’t been tweeting recently. I picture him wrestling Conway for the phone.
The Ancient Randonnuer
Start monitoring Trump’s Twitter feed this is going to be epic.
Jeffro
@The Ancient Randonnuer: No kidding. Jaysus, she is really laying it all out there – Alex Jones, using the National Enquirer as gospel, etc. Ka-POW
eclare
She’s bringing it with the thunder.
redshirt
@The Ancient Randonnuer: Can I get some summaries? I can’t watch.
Corner Stone
“But look at who he’s put in charge of his campaign.”
OHHH A SHOUTOUT TO THE APPRENTICE!!
Trentrunner
Ok, now she’s hitting him with the chair…
Beauty.
Davis X. Machina
She’s laying out her Vagenda of Manocide, I take it.
Corner Stone
HEADLINES FROM BREITBART!
Corner Stone
MY CAPS LOCK IS STUCK BECAUSE THIS IS FUCKING BRUTAL!
Trentrunner
@The Ancient Randonnuer: I imagine 6-8 pairs of frantic hands trying yank a smartphone from frozen small vulgarian fingers..
Betty Cracker
“Trump likes to say he surrounds himself with the best people. But he’s had to fire so many campaign managers it’s like an episode from The Apprentice.”
dmsilev
Quoting headlines from Breitbart. That’s almost unfair.
Pangloss
A nice mix of political jujitsu and laying down the facts with a sharp burn.
The Ancient Randonnuer
@redshirt: “He’s had to fire so many people from his campaign it’s like an episode of The Apprentice.”
Now she’s quoting headlines from Breitbart to give everyone a sample of who Trump hired.
Corner Stone
“These are racist ideas, race baiting ideas.”
Trentrunner
Hillary is actually a better messenger for this message than Obama would be.
Iowa Old Lady
She’s making occasional comments about how Trump isn’t really a conservative “as we’ve known it,” and he’s taken over the R party. That sounds like an invitation to uncomfortable Republicans.
hovercraft
@redshirt:
Kellyanne said he had a fundraiser that had been in the works for a while. Rachel asked why hold a rally, she replied that local officials had been asking him to come.
Pangloss
This speech should be a paid half hour on national TV on election eve.
RoonieRoo
Thank you for the link to Clinton. I’m really enjoying it.
Betty Cracker
Oh, Putin’s Poodle!
Trentrunner
Tactical point made on Twitter: All the alt-right media names Hillary is name-checking now will gladly want their moment of post-speech media interest.
And they’ll all be supporting Trump.
Brilliant.
dmsilev
I’m getting the sense here that Hillary Clinton is opposed to Donald Trump.
Mnemosyne
Can I just say that I LOVE that the Democrats are going all in on race and calling out racism instead of cringing away? Hit ’em again, harder!
Nixon was willing to break the country with the Southern Strategy, but I bet he never imagined that his half would start to shrink and keep shrinking.
wvng
@Pangloss: Sure is.
MikeTheZ
From Trump to Putin via Farage. Nice.
Pangloss
Giving moderate Republicans plenty of space and welcome to wander into the tent. Good stuff.
Corner Stone
Holy shitcakes!
Trentrunner
OMG, Winner of Twitter Today:
Corner Stone
@dmsilev: She seems to be at best, indifferent.
dmsilev
@Trentrunner: OK, that wins.
dmsilev
Donald Trump will build a wall to protect us from Mexican adages.
Pangloss
And now she’s America’s supportive mom, proud of us for doing the right thing. This is great stuff.
dmsilev
@Corner Stone: So, we can put her down as Undecided then? Or maybe she’ll vote for Jill Stein instead.
Trentrunner
This is a great, great speech. No “Clintonesque” (sic) equivocating. Calling things by their rightful names. Love it.
Trentrunner
@dmsilev: LOL.
Corner Stone
This speech is like HRC Joe Biden literally took Smiling Uncle Joe’s Pontiac, ran Trump over and then backed over him. Repeat.
Mnemosyne
@Trentrunner:
Ironically, yes, at least for white audiences. You can dismiss someone who seems to be speaking about bias towards their own race/culture/gender, but it’s a lot harder to dismiss the same points when voiced by someone outside of that race/culture/gender.
That’s why I occasionally have an opportunity to be a Speaker To The Clueless White People: kind non-white and/or LGBT people explain things to me, and then I go out and translate those for my fellow straight white people.
Corner Stone
I may be about to break the blog’s limit on using the word “brutal” too many times in one thread.
But this fucking speech. Brutal.
MikeTheZ
I hope her surrogates can follow through after this speech. This is the sort of thing that can bury the Trump campaign.
The Ancient Randonnuer
@Trentrunner:
Yep. Easily the best speech I’ve ehard anyone give this cycle and that includes the best of the speeches at the convention.
raven
With a dull deer antler.
Betty Cracker
@Trentrunner: Damn, I want to marry that tweet! Who tweeted that gem?
Corner Stone
@dmsilev: She picked it up. Then she put it down.
Gemina13
Oh, my God. I don’t smoke, but after watching Hillary . . . damn, I wish I did. I need a dozen.
Pangloss
@Mnemosyne: Is that the Caramel Corn that Oprah made famous? The sweet smell would make me a little sick when walking past the place on Michigan Ave.
Mnemosyne
@MikeTheZ:
Did you see Tim Kaine’s DNC speech? Once he warmed up, he was terrific. He’s going to be able to do this exact same thing in fluent Spanish.
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: You never went to Garrett’s?
Mnemosyne
@Pangloss:
It’s caramel corn and cheddar cheese popcorn made separately and then mixed together in the same bag, which sounds gross, but is actually delicious. Trader Joe’s has a pretty good one in their chip aisle.
1,000 Flouncing Lurkers (was fidelioscabinet)
@Trentrunner:
@Betty Cracker:
I need a cigarette, for some reason.
scav
She seemed better in her skin than some other speeches I’ve seen. And nicely blunt and to the point.
schrodinger's cat
@Mnemosyne: They are selling something called Bollywood popcorn, it sounds perfectly disgusting but is probably delicious. Trader Joe is a junk food Mecca.
LeonS
@dmsilev: They may look like poor hard working people, but they could be concealing a Muslim terrorist in a secret compartment.
Mnemosyne
@Adam L Silverman:
Nope. It was never on my list of things to do in the city. Too touristy, I guess.
Princess
This was a great speech. Every word was perfect. The delivery was great — calm but unrelenting devastation of Trump, his friends, his allies, his history, his values. It even managed to send a positive upbeat hopeful message about her own campaign at the same time, which is really hard to do. And I love that colour on her.
Pangloss
@Adam L Silverman: That’s the place… Used to be a little shabby dump until Oprah began extolling its virtues. Now it’s a frou frou “upscale” place.
Aimai
@mali muso: im growing more and more excited by the idea of her as president. Like:truly honored and joyful.
Adam L Silverman
@Pangloss: It started as Garrett’s special house mix requested by their customers. A mix of their caramel and cheddar cheese popcorn.
gorram
@redshirt: He could wrestle up some White faces (maybe not enough in any case) but they’d be so very… Irish. He extends some politeness to a certain class of Scottish (in memory of his mother I think), but perhaps that’s a bridge too far to go Irish.
Villago Delenda Est
Drumpf’s lectern: TRUMP
Hillary’s lectern: STRONGER TOGETHER
Drumpf: ME ME ME ME!
Hillary: Us.
Mnemosyne
@schrodinger’s cat:
I was thinking of getting some of that for G. I’m not fond of Indian food, but he really likes it.
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: Probably also never went to a Cubs game or the Museum or for pizza at Gino’s or Malnattis…
Villago Delenda Est
@gorram: The Scots have disowned the tiny-fingered, Cheeto-faced, ferret-wearing shitgibbon. He’s no Scotsman.
Peale
@dmsilev: Perhaps. But does anyone think that Refugees are a gift? A love offering?
redshirt
@Villago Delenda Est: No true Scotsman.
Mnemosyne
@Pangloss:
I left before Oprah went national, so that may be why. I still remember one of my junior high teachers being excited that she got to ask an audience question on Oprah’s local TV show.
And the person who advised Oprah to syndicate her show and go national? Roger Ebert.
Trentrunner
@Betty Cracker: Dang, can’t find the original. I’ll keep trying.
Villago Delenda Est
@scav: She was blinking her eyes. This is a telltale sign of Parkinson’s!
Aimai
@Davis X. Machina: i thought that was a line from Fringe. Walter, the befuddled genius, says it.
Frankensteinbeck
@Mnemosyne:
He might have done it already, for all we would know. It would take someone who washes Spanish-language news to tell us. The Talking Heads don’t speak Spanish, and nothing that doesn’t personally affect them is important, so they would never cover it.
Cacti
@Mnemosyne:
It’s okay, we all have our flaws. ;-)
Villago Delenda Est
@Trentrunner: Need to upfist. Again and again.
Corner Stone
@Villago Delenda Est:
Aren’t you missing a word there?
CONGRATULATIONS!
We forget so quickly. Remember Trey Gowdy? No? The guy who held a Benghazi hearing and got his ass handed to him for twelve hours straight?
Donald will never take Clinton seriously because she’s a woman. That’s a serious mistake.
redshirt
@Corner Stone: I said it Corner Stone! Surely you read my reply.
schrodinger's cat
@Mnemosyne: I haven’t tried it. I am not a huge popcorn fan. You don’t like Indian food? Blasphemy!
If its just the restaurant food that you are talking about, then I forgive because I am not much of a fan either. Too greasy and overly spiced, that’s how most Indian restaurants in this country do it.
Mnemosyne
@Adam L Silverman:
Pfft. I got nasty sunburns at Cubs games, and thinking people know that Malnati’s pizza sucks. Gino’s East only. But no popcorn.
They actually had a radio commercial running in the 1980s with a woman breaking off her engagement because she finds out her fiancé has never been to Gino’s East.
Corner Stone
How can you not like Indian food? They literally offer something for everyone.
Mnemosyne
@schrodinger’s cat:
I’m probably spoiled — I used to eat my friend’s mom’s home cooking and none of the restaurants can measure up.
ETA: Also, my friend’s younger siblings loved to give me super-spicy things to eat and watch how many different colors I would turn, so I’m a little traumatized. ?
catclub
@MikeTheZ: I hope HIS surrogates follow through:
Corner Stone
@Villago Delenda Est:
I am ummm…scared to ask?
The Other Chuck
@Corner Stone: More like there’s one too many words. How about:
Ryan
OMG, whoever picked the music to run on the Trump feed needs to be fired ASAP! I live 80’s, but he or she picked among the more annoying songs one can find.
schrodinger's cat
@Corner Stone: Also too, most of the regional cuisines have not really made inroads in the US. For example sea food from the western part of India (Konkan coast, Goa, Kerala) is to die for.
gorram
@Adam L Silverman: Gender reassignment isn’t bad per se, but gender confirmation is kind of the in thing to say since it doesn’t suggest that the patient’s gender was created or made by the surgery or other procedures. It’s like how a lot of cisgender men (and transgender men too!) will grow out a beard to in a way demonstrate their masculinity or what have you. The beard isn’t assigning (or reassigning) them that gender, it’s just articulating it.
Betty Cracker
@Trentrunner: Found and retweeted!
Villago Delenda Est
@catclub: He has to sleep in his own bed with his own pillow every night, it seems. Too many bedbugs in those non-Trump controlled buildings.
The Other Chuck
@Ryan: Eh, I’m sure the artist will send a C&D to the campaign anyway. Pretty sure all Drumpf is going to be able to play soon will be Horst Wessel Lied.
schrodinger's cat
@Mnemosyne: I rarely go to Indian restaurants myself, exceptions are the Bay Area, NYC etc
Corner Stone
@catclub: I hope they all gloat the absolute F out of being name/meme checked by HRC.
Just like having David Duke parlay renewed media attention off Trump’s BS, these guys/movements are going to octopus on to this media limelight as hard as they possibly can.
This was a really good speech.
Patricia Kayden
@RoonieRoo: She gave it to him hot! I want to see how the “liberal” media is going to report on Secretary Clinton’s crushing speech. There’s no way they can “both sides do it” when it comes to Trump’s bigotry since there is no comparable “alt-left” on our side.
Ryan
Okay, I’ve decided that these over the top guitar licks are a metaphor for the campaign as a whole. Clearly the 80s were Trump’s glory years.
Villago Delenda Est
@Corner Stone: Wonkettese for “like”.
MikeTheZ
Wow, I don’t know who that Trump surrogate on CNN was, but she just started screaming about “Martin Luther King” over and over to drown out discussion of Trump’s past. What the hell.
catclub
@Corner Stone:
Some famous Indian restaurant that opened after it moved from India to NYC has pastrami. Apparently not as common in India.
They do say that sacred cows make the best hamburger.
The Other Chuck
@Patricia Kayden:
Not that this will stop them from ginning one up from a few BernieBro tweets they dig up.
Villago Delenda Est
@Corner Stone: Well, not steak and potatoes people.
Chyron HR
@Villago Delenda Est:
But we stabbed her with like 50 EpiPens before she went on stage! What does it take to keep that c-word upright?!
Origuy
@schrodinger’s cat: A little cafe just opened up a block away from me that specializes in Kerala cuisine. Their menu is pretty limited right now, but they have big plans. Any particular dishes I should try?
Mai.naem.mobile
@schrodinger’s cat: I bought the Bollywood popcorn. Disgusting. Not sure what made it “Bollywood.” I thought it was going to be a hot/sour thing,maybe with some cumin. Nope. I didn’t even finish the bag. CVS OTOH has this awesome Sciracha popcorn. Sooo good.
scav
@Villago Delenda Est: But, wouldn’t that interfere with her coded blinked messages to her nefarious co-conspirators? No wonder things are a mess.
Frankensteinbeck
@Patricia Kayden:
We have people who only eat organic foods, who do psychedelic drugs, who go to peace rallies, and people who call for nationalizing industries. As far as the media is concerned, these are way more crazy positions than white supremacy. White supremacy is merely rude.
Corner Stone
@schrodinger’s cat: MmmmMMmmm…Goa…
gorram
@Villago Delenda Est: And I never said he was, only that his mother, tá gàdhlig aici (forgive me, I am from the other side of the sea). And that he treats other Scottish people as most raging misogynists treat their mothers – patronizingly but with a certain lack of hostility they are all too eager to dole out otherwise. Na albannach made it quite clear that he doesn’t understand them. All I’m saying is he might not even imagine doing that for… fenians.
Villago Delenda Est
@MikeTheZ: Donald knows nothing, nothing, about White Supremacists, the KKK, or David Duke. He’d have to research that. In between racist tweets, of course…
schrodinger's cat
@Villago Delenda Est: Actually, Parsis have a dish with steak and thinly sliced match stick potatoes, which is heavenly.
Villago Delenda Est
@gorram: The Scots return that patronization, in spades, at him. He’s despised, loathed, disdained…pick your adverb of negative feelings…almost universally in Scotland.
Trollhattan
Just started watching. She used the handrail climbing the steps. NEAR DEATH!
schrodinger's cat
@Origuy: I would try their shell fish dishes, start with shrimp.
Villago Delenda Est
@schrodinger’s cat: Oh, wow, that sounds very yummy indeed.
Iowa Old Lady
Headline on HuffPo: Hillary Torches Trump
scav
Masala Dosas with the potato filling? I don’t even miss the concept of steak.
Villago Delenda Est
@The Other Chuck: He’s a space station!
Pangloss
@Ryan: When he talked about “Extreme Vetting,” I imagined the phrase punctuated by the guitar player strapped on the front of the Mad Max vehicle.
Villago Delenda Est
@Pangloss: Played by Eddie VanHalen?
The Ancient Randonnuer
Clinton Campaign put out a new ad just before today’s speech. It hits the racism/white supremacist topic again.
gorram
@schrodinger’s cat: Tamil food too seems to largely be lost, although there’s a sprinkling of really good places in the Bay Area and NYC, maybe elsewhere too. I think some of the earliest / biggest cohorts of immigration from the region were disproportionately Punjabi? (Unfortunately some of that may have to do with the nastiest bits of the Partition). That definitely strikes me as the style that is largely popularized as “Indian” (ironically given the issue of Punjab being on both sides of the border nowadays).
Almost the exact same thing happened with Chinese I suspect. I don’t know the ins and outs of Chinese food, but I can tell you, working in translation/interpretation that [variously spelled when romanized] Toishanese – not Mandarin or Cantonese – was the lingua franca in Chinese immigrant communities in the US and Canada for quite a few generations. That’s changing now, and “Chinese food’ has spun off in another direction as well. But still, funny things can happen when a small sample of immigrants are seen as a representative sample of a broad swathe of the old country.
Turgidson
@Mnemosyne:
False.
Ryan
@Pangloss: Nice!
Fair Economist
@Princess:
Gandalf gear!
Ruviana
So what music did Drumpf use? I won’t get out of the boat.
raven
@Ruviana: Who’s in charge here?
Ryan
I could totally turn the beat around if I didn’t have to listen to any more god awful 80s music! I really should just fast forward to Il Douche I guess.
gorram
@Villago Delenda Est: It’s how we know they’re just as celtic as us (speaking as both éireannach and cymro). The schools may have beaten the gàdhlig and catholicism out of (most of) you, but they cannae make ye be sassanaigh.
schrodinger's cat
@gorram: And the Gujarati vegetarian thali, is pretty awesome too.
Mai.naem.mobile
@Mnemosyne: I don’t know how far you are from Artesian but there’s a place called Rajdhani on Pioneer Blvd. I don’t like Indian restaurants either but this place was really good. We went there when we were in LA a few months ago. It’s all veg and you get whatever items they are serving that day. The servers go around the room each with a different item,refilling continuosly. Kind of like Indian dim sum. It’s as close to home style Indian food as I have seen at a restaurant. BTW, expect a line on the weekends.
mike in dc
Every Republican on tee vee this weekend should get asked about the alt right movement.
Corner Stone
@scav: I had vegetable curry the other day, which had potatoes. Phenomenal.
I also don’t miss the steak on some dishes. Especially if I can get goat. MmmmMmmMMmm…
raven
Dance Mikey Steele, dance.
Brachiator
Did not get a chance to catch the speech. Hope to check it out later. Sounds like it hit the mark, from the comments here.
Shell
Somebody explain the logic of they’re playing the Stones’ “You Cant Always Get What You Want” right after a speech where Trump promises to magically eliminate crime, poverty, destroy Isis in the first week of his presidency….
Turgidson
@Patricia Kayden:
That won’t stop them from implying that there is such a thing. If push comes to shove, they can dig up some “Bush is a fascist” type quotes from the DKos comments sections circa 2005 and vomit up some BothSiderist sludge over everything.
gogol's wife
@mike in dc:
Don’t hold your breath.
Corner Stone
@schrodinger’s cat:
Going to be in MD a few days next week and I plan to eat shell fish basically nonstop.
shomi
I had the unfortunate experience of being somewhere where I was forced to watch a CNN panel discuss this speech right after.
The panel mostly hammered Drumpf for all the shit he has said and done so at least those boxes were checked. However, there was some blonde Fox News reject going on and on about Clinton foundation…blah blah…emails blah blah…she’s the real racist blah blah. Just complete utter bullshit.
I fucking hate watching news channels. Hate it. Cut the cord years ago and never looked back. Only watch selective clips now on sites like this and only if it’s not this sort of both sides do it false equivalency horseshit.
gorram
@schrodinger’s cat: I would like to lodge a complaint with the DNC that there is not a Gujarati place within convenient distance of my house.
Mnemosyne
@Turgidson:
Nope, true. Plus nobody lets you write on the walls.
schrodinger's cat
@Corner Stone: Yes! Maryland Crabs are the best. Are you going to the Chesapeake Bay?
trnc
A new line of grift.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2016/Pres/Maps/Aug25.html#item-2
Mnemosyne
@Mai.naem.mobile:
I’m in the San Fernando Valley. Do you remember if they had any vegan dishes, or dishes that could be made vegan by leaving off the dairy? My vegan BFF lives in Orange County and may be interested in trying a new place.
schrodinger's cat
@gorram: There used to be a great Gujarati place on K street in DC. I wonder if its still there.
Chyron HR
@Ruviana:
Playing With The Boys (love theme from “Top Gun”)
Frankensteinbeck
@Shell:
Easy. ‘Fuck you, lazy [INSERT RACIAL EPITHET HERE]. Your free ride is over!’ Also, ‘Woo, music made by white people my age!’
Villago Delenda Est
@Shell: Keith Richards is eventually going to go all Sympathy for the Devil on the Donald.
Ruviana
@Chyron HR: Thanks!
Dmbeaster
Saw Michael Steele after her speech whining about the alleged low tone of her speech. Classic GOP response, the party that since Gingrich has made an art form out of smearing Democrats in as ugly a manner as possible. No actual response by Steele to the substance of Hillary’s remarks.
The speech was a great mix of hard-hitting language backed with hardcore proof. Reading the Breitbart headlines was really brilliant. Guess her speechwriters also read blogs.
Corner Stone
This guy from the Anti Def League is not playing around on MSNBC.
CONGRATULATIONS!
@Patricia Kayden: You are so wrong. “Democrats hate white people and white culture”, and they religiously believe this to be true.
Doesn’t matter this time because Trumpster Fire told the donor class to fuck right off and they’ll make sure he loses. Other elections, we might not get so lucky as to have quite a bad candidate as they’ve got now.
Villago Delenda Est
@Turgidson: The problem is that the deserting coward was/is a fascist, just with a slightly softer side than Drumpf is.
Corner Stone
@schrodinger’s cat: Basically in DC.
Villago Delenda Est
@CONGRATULATIONS!: What they mean by “white” is “National Socialist”.
Mnemosyne
@gorram:
If you can speak/write Irish Gaelic, commenter Miss Bianca may be interested in talking to you for a novel she’s working on. It has werewolves in it, so I’m not totally sure where the Gaelic comes in.
Cacti
@Chyron HR:
True, if you consider Iceman to have been Maverick’s real love interest. :-)
gogol's wife
This is a great speech.
Villago Delenda Est
@raven: For a black guy, his sense of rhythm is pretty lousy.
Mnemosyne
@Shell:
“America may not WANT Trump, but you NEED Trump!”
gogol's wife
@gogol’s wife:
I mean Hillary’s! I’m watching the replay.
Cacti
@Mnemosyne:
Trump fans are the people who don’t understand how Col. Jessup wasn’t the hero in A Few Good Men.
schrodinger's cat
@Corner Stone: Go to Market Lunch in the Eastern Market behind Capitol Hill. They have the best crab cakes in DC, plus their home made root beer is pretty good too.
CONGRATULATIONS!
@Dmbeaster: And this is where Democrats crap their pants and promise to be nicer.
I think Hillary knows better. When they start yelling is when it’s time to start hitting harder.
Cacti
@schrodinger’s cat:
Seconded.
Their crab cake sammiches are the shiznit.
FlipYrWhig
@hovercraft: I liked Kellyanne’s contention that Hillary was dodging a debate on matters of substance. That’s one of those “please, don’t throw me in the briar patch!” kind of scenarios.
JR in WV
@gorram:
I have a beard. It’s because I hate shaving. It gives me little infected sores all over my throat. I’ve had it since I graduated from High School.
Plus Mrs J likes it.
Villago Delenda Est
@Cacti: Yup. Abso-fracking-lutely.
Mai.naem.mobile
@Mnemosyne: I’ve only been there once but i don’t believe vegans would have a problem. You would have to ask the server not to serve the rotis with ghee, no laassi and desserts possibly might all have dairy but the main meal should be fine.
gorram
@CONGRATULATIONS!: My favorite response to that is to ask what exactly is “White culture”. They either get real awkward or rather racist rather fast.
Chyron HR
@Ruviana:
No, I’m sorry, that was a lie.
gorram
@Mnemosyne: I do speak a little, but not very well, sadly. I am happy to give it a go though.
Chyron HR
@gorram:
Baneposting.
mike in dc
2 weeks of coverage of the alt right movement will kill Trump dead, and the establishment GOP with it. Because public opinion of it will quickly turn sharply negative, and it will torpedo Trump’s slim chance of expanding his support. Plus, if he does abandon them, many of them will return the favor. Win-win for team blue.
gorram
@JR in WV: I wouldn’t call my current status “bearded” but it’s getting there. I prefer being clean-shaven (it seems better for my skin?) but I am alack… a lazy millennial.
Ernest Pikeman
Mmm, Indian food. I just put some kitchari in the slow cooker for dinner. Had a dal with brown basmati the last couple of days. And my place of growing up, my current location, and India couldn’t be further away from each other while staying on this planet.
Ruviana
@Chyron HR: So I guess I go back to fretting about it….
redshirt
@Chyron HR: Heh. Oh, you think you own the darkness?
JR in WV
@Mnemosyne:
Why are there Irish Wolfhounds?
There haven’t been Irish wolfs in centuries, but the wolfhounds are still, there in Ireland.
Aren’t they? Must be the Irish werewolf problem …
Mnemosyne
@gorram:
She doesn’t seem to be around this afternoon, but I’ll alert her that you might know a little of the language and we’ll see if we can hook you two up. Thanks!
The Other Chuck
@mike in dc: Given the way cable news operates, two weeks of coverage of the alt-right will result in a half dozen new commentators being hired from their ranks.
shomi
@Trentrunner: That is pretty good.
Frankensteinbeck
@JR in WV:
People seem to like dogs. It’s weird.
Applejinx
@Patricia Kayden: A lot of ‘Free Staters’ in NH. It could be further building of a nutjob army, which is not to say it will automatically work. Just that NH is to some extent colonized by heavily armed libertarian nutballs, so there’s a practical aspect to Trump paying it attention.
Bobby_D
@Mnemosyne: Not fond of Indian food?!! Heresy. Burn the witch!
This was a really good speech, the kind I’ve hoped for. Now lets see what these horserace idiots in the media do with it.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: It’s Trinidad, CO, actually, that’s famous for sex-reassignment surgery (is that what the kids are calling “sex change operations” these days?).
ETA: Altho’ not anymore, apparently…
http://www.denverpost.com/2010/12/12/well-known-trinidad-sex-reassignment-doctor-leaves/
Mnemosyne
@Miss Bianca:
Did you see we have a Irish speaker in the house? Meet gorram!
qwerty42
@Villago Delenda Est: … He’s no Scotsman.
Well, no true Scotsman, anyway (had to, just had to)
Steeplejack (phone)
@JR in WV:
Why there are still wolfhounds.
Miss Bianca
@Mnemosyne:@gorram: Because they are Irish werewolves.
Actually. Northern Irish/Ulsterian werewolves. The folk there would be speaking the Northern Irish dialect, I believe.
satby
@redshirt: It’s best if you can eat it right outside Garrett’s on State Street. But I’m a purist.
Miss Bianca
@Steeplejack (phone): Somewhere – I can’t find it now – there is a meme with a little Pomeranian, looking slightly sheepish, dressed up in a flower ruff, who’s saying:”Tell me again how my ancestors used to be wolves. I really need to hear that now.”
@Mnemosyne: Indeed! And s/he is evidently a “Firefly” fan…who could ask for anything more!
JR in WV
Well, we watched Hillary’s speech… WOW was that good.
But she can’t really deliver a good speech, you know! Just ask Trump… /s
Now I understand the tweet : “Hillary shot a campaign in Reno, just t watch it die!” So good!
Uncle Cosmo
Anywhere know where I can find that speech? Because it seems to be impossible to jump to whereever HRC’s speech starts & not have the video go totally out of synch with the audio…& I fucking well am not going to sit through the warmup acts.
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: Is that Mark Pitcavage? He doesn’t leave his house.
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: I only eat pizza in Chicago at Gino’s East or at the Exchequer a block down from the Palmer House. The latter largely because 1) I stay at the Palmer House when in Chicago and 2) while its not as good as Gino’s, its still quite good.
Adam L Silverman
@Uncle Cosmo: Try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHAlX9a_dfA
gorram
@Miss Bianca: Sa ghaeltacht i nDún na nGall? Or on the other side of the border? Less gaeilge over there sadly.
Sorry for disappearing, I am home sick today and prone to those unfortunately.
Corner Stone
@Adam L Silverman: Not sure if that was a joke but no, it was this guy:
Jonathan Greenblatt
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: No it wasn’t. Mark Pitcavage is their long time director of research. All the researchers at the regional offices technically work for him – though they have a lot of autonomy. He works from his home and among those who study domestic extremism its sort of a bit of true amusement that he never seems to leave home. This may not be completely true, but when I’ve dealt with the ADL (was interviewed for two positions back in 2005, which they actually didn’t have open – don’t ask) he did my initial interview by phone and went over all the details. Then I had an in person interview at the main office in NY and he wasn’t there. I don’t know if he’s agoraphobic or if there’s something else going on.
Corner Stone
@Adam L Silverman:
How did that go?
Miss Bianca
@gorram: Not Donegal so much as Antrim – Belfast and environs – if I’m understanding you correctly. Ní féidir liom a Gaeilge a labhairt, faraor. That’s why I need help!
I am home sick as well. Been alternately napping – why is it so much easier to banish the Gerbils of Worry in the daytime than at night? – and catching up on the news and such.
gorram
@Miss Bianca: I am guessing it has something to do with sunlight!
Also, while there are more local variations of course, it’s usually thought of as one broader dialectical region, Ulster through Donegal and even down into Letrim and such. The border is only just now a century old (with the period before it being characterized by a lot of upheaval, and hence moving around across the spaces it now divides), and the past few decades have seen it move towards demilitarization and more free movement. As a result, there’s often a lot of shared characteristics to the region as a whole that reflect greater contact with Gaelg and Gàidhlig influences that wasn’t really present in the more common Irish dialects in the south (which are how people tend to present the language in general to people).
For example, while the people we’re talking about would perfectly understand and might very well say themselves what you did, “ní féidir liom gaeilge a labhairt” (I don’t think you need the first “a”?), especially in the Donegal area you’re more likely to hear “cha fhéidir liom gaeilge a labhairt” – there’s an alternative negation word (cha[n] in the present, char in the past) that triggers lenition (except for t- and d- for which it triggers eclipsis… it’s a weird regional dialect!). That’s pretty similar to a common way of negating in Gaelg and Gàidhlig I’ve heard said?
Anyhoo, while I’m by no means fluent, that is the variety I’ve been trying to learn, so if I can be of any help, let me know!
Miss Bianca
@gorram: See, now, I am all undone! And of course I would need help – thank you! For of course, what I would want is the Northern Irish dialect. I know there are some sources online – BBC, according to satby, had a nice interactive one that apparently isn’t so up on the “active” part anymore, alas.
My characters are split up between English and Irish speakers – we won’t even get into Lupa. That’s just another silliness all on its own.
How pleasant this place is, to be sure! Wait long enough, and the most fascinating people with the coolest skill sets come by!
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: Well since they didn’t actually have either position open to offer to me and I was then told that they like to promote from within, it went as well as can be expected. As in the phone interview was fine. The in person interview was fine. But given that they didn’t have the openings they’d advertised, I’m not sure quite what the point was. I also had a job in hand, so it wasn’t that big a deal, but I was very interested in either of the two advertised, but not actually open to be filled, positions.
Uncle Cosmo
@Adam L Silverman: Brilliant, Adam, thanky kindly. Just watched the whole thing. Brilliant!
Uncle Cosmo
@Miss Bianca: Speaking of skill sets brought to the party…
Miss Bianca
@Uncle Cosmo: Ah, the old jokes are always the best, ain’t they?
Missed you, Uncle C. Glad to see you back.
Ken
Wow. HRC:
1. Laid it all out there, named names and gave examples
2. Eviscerated DT as well as anyone could have
Adam L Silverman
@Uncle Cosmo: No worries. How you holding up?
James E Powell
@Patricia Kayden:
You underestimate them. From Bloomberg:
Trump, Clinton Trade Blistering Attacks on Race, Prejudice
Since last weekend, I’m seeing CNN and MSNBC, supported by the AP, going all out to rescue the doomed Trump campaign. Whether it’s shading the facts on the emails or the Clinton Foundation, or promoting Trump’s “pivot” as an achievement rather than mere words, or repeating Republican talking points as if they are facts, the press/media are doing whatever they can to keep Trump alive in this race.
gorram
@Uncle Cosmo: Ha! So very true. I have soupers on one side and… they might not be Catholic but they are most certainly Not Protestant.
KS in MA
@Adam L Silverman: Didn’t know you were black!
opiejeanne
@KS in MA: HA! Clever.
Adam L Silverman
@KS in MA: I was told when Pitcavage called me that the positions that they’d advertised hadn’t quite opened up yet. And that they liked to promote from within. Personally, I think they were fishing to see who might be out there while at the same time covering their butts in case they just wanted to promote from within. It was what it was. I had a job in hand I was transitioning to, which was a good job with good people, though not in my favorite of places. So not that big a deal.