Trump goes to a white rural town, and in front of an all white audience, reads a speech to the cameras telling black people to vote for him.
— Mat Johnson (@mat_johnson) August 17, 2016
So Donald Trump gave a speech on race tonight. I’ll pause here so you can grab a drink.
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And it went exactly like you imagined it would:
Donald Trump made a new and explicit plea for the support of black voters on Tuesday, saying the Democratic Party had “failed and betrayed” them and accusing Hillary Clinton of “bigotry” in the pursuit of minority voters.
“We reject the bigotry of Hillary Clinton which panders to and talks down to communities of color and sees them only as votes — that’s all they care about — not as individual human beings worthy of a better future,” Trump said at a rally in Wisconsin.
After Republican Party leaders have urged Trump for months to rein in unpredictable tangents on the stump that have gotten him in repeated political trouble, Trump used a teleprompter at a campaign rally for the first time on Tuesday to deliver a speech that waded into the thorny topics of race and politics.
“The Democratic Party has failed and betrayed the African-American community,” Trump declared.
“The Democratic Party has taken the votes of African-Americans for granted. They’ve just assumed they’ll get your support and done nothing in return for it. They’ve taken advantage of the African-American citizen,” he added. “It’s time to give the Democrats some competition for these votes.”
So far, Trump has struggled to connect with black voters, receiving as low as 0 percent and 1 percent of African-American support in some polls. (Though given the margin of error, his support could be slightly higher.)
Black people are the Democratic party. The Democratic party’s core is African Americans. Saying democrats have failed African Americans is basically calling them self-loathing at this point. I’m going to propose we stop having national conversations about race until February 2017. And then, when we have them, have them in areas that are not 96% white.
John Weiss
Good to see numb-nuts wasting his time. For awhile I thought that bashing the Gold Goblin was punching down. Now I don’t give a shit. That asshole needs to go.
Omnes Omnibus
It is my understanding that he spoke in Milwaukee and Toledo today. Which is the white rural town?
Mai.naem.mobile
Yep,blacks are going to forget birther Donny and all the disrespectful crap they’ve thrown at the Obamas. Calling Michelle’s mom a welfare mom because she lives in the WH to help with the kids. Really,go fuck off.
dmsilev
@Omnes Omnibus: He wasn’t in Milwaukee per se, but in one of the (very white) surrounding towns.
Misterpuff
@Omnes Omnibus: West Bend is an exburb of Milwaukee on the rural end of the spectrum.
Anoniminous
Trump’s constituency is bigots and old and crazy white people and only bigots and old and crazy white people. I’m beginning to wonder if the dummy will crack 45% nationally.
bago
When it comes to the pursuit of black voters in the US, Trump really is the candidate of the 1%.
Chet Murthy
“Trump’s rally was in West Bend, Wisconsin” from the linked-to article
Mnemosyne
@Omnes Omnibus:
As I understand it, Trump spoke about Milwaukee from the safety of a majority white exurb.
Omnes Omnibus
@Misterpuff: Thank you. That does change things. I do know where West Bend is. I was just going off the earlier thread that had led me to believe that the rally was in the City of Milwaukee.
dmsilev
We were talking a couple threads down about the likelihood that this speech was the work of New Trump Campaign Adviser Roger Ailes. It certainly sounds a lot like many of the thing Ailes has pushed over the last twenty or so years.
gwangung
Seriously…POCs are gonna have a GREAT time teeing off the Republicans on this.
bago
It all comes down to Waukesha county.
http://www.businessinsider.com/political-reporter-twitter-jokes-2013-7
eyelessgame
Or lower. His support could be as low as minus five percent.
Betty Cracker
He wasn’t making a play for black votes. He was giving white Republicans who are uncomfortable with overt racism an excuse to vote for him by playing their respectability politics bullshit back for them. “See? He’s good for the blacks!”
BR
So, when do we expect his next erratic outburst to occur? And who/what will trigger it?
amk
Basically, the racist pos was projecting and some bj’ers called it his best speech so far. Sheesh.
The Thin Black Duke
Sorry, Donnie. Your supporters are the only demographic in this country that will consistently vote against their own self interest each and every time. Homies don’t play that.
gwangung
@Betty Cracker: Yuppers. It’s emblematic of how Republicans approach black voters—they don’t deal with them at all. And they say the Democrats have a plantation?
ruemara
Well, I’m convinced. While I’m at it, I’m also converting to Old Godism and calling down the Dark Lords of the Void to destroy us all. Makes as much sense as voting Trump.
The Thin Black Duke
@Betty Cracker:
Who weren’t going to vote for Hillary anyway.
randy khan
@Betty Cracker:
Exactly. This sort of thing tends to play poorly with black voters, as it should, since research shows that, on the whole they’re better informed than white voters. If Ailes wrote it, he surely knew that going in, hence it has to be aimed at white voters.
Next: The Democrats are the *real* racists.
Anoniminous
And from Princeton Election Consortium …
In state polls, Clinton running 5.8 percentage points ahead of Obama 2012:
It is almost mathematically impossible for Clinton to do better than Obama in Maine and New York, flat out run out of people.
randy khan
@amk:
Those two items are not mutually exclusive. His previous speeches have been pretty poor by any reasonable standard. (Or, to quote Clinton speaking about Trump’s RNC acceptance speech: He spoke for 70-odd minutes, and I do mean odd.”)
Jordan Rules
Oh it’s black folks turn on the scampaigners game of ‘get the white vote by any means necessary’ again. With an assist from serial harasser Roger. How deep is the well? Will they have to “pivot” to another hated demographic group soon or ride this one out a bit?
JustRuss
….unlike the Republican party, which is doing everything it can to suppress them.
bago
@bago: Hah! I made that joke before hearing about the demographics of the city in question, which comes up in the following clip.
http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/trump-s-diversity-appeal-in-mainly-white-town-745609795534
?BillinGlendaleCA
Obviously, this Trump fella(if that’s really his name) is Democrat plant. Notice what he said “Democratic Party”, no REAL REPUBLICAN would ever be caught dead saying that. The proper/approved phrase is the “Democrat Party”. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!
ETA: And I got comment 27!
the Reverend Lowdown
West Bend, at least when I lived in that area(late eighties, early nineties), was very white. I went to high school there. The high school was about two thousand students(it’s actually two high schools that are connected (West Bend East and West). During my last year there, the school had two African Americans, two Asians and I cannot remember any Hispanics. That was not my graduating class. That was the non white population of the whole school.
JCJ
@Omnes Omnibus:
After a rally/show at the Pabst Theater in Milwaukee he went to West Bend. It was reported that Walker was going to be there as well
ETA: Oops. I see that was already answered.
Amir Khalid
@Anoniminous:
This is Hillary Clinton, who the Bernie-or-bust crowd kept insisting was a weak candidate against Trump.
MikeBoyScout
Next up, Trump will show his compassion for Latinos by speaking to a Sheriff Arpaio fund raiser.
scav
@amk: Don’t confuse technically “best” e.g. not low-energy awkward reading of teleprompter or manic, dribbling random shouting of sentence fragments with any quality of content. (And no, I did emphatically not put myself through the brain and soul rotting experience of it direct, my heart and vocal cords couldn’t take the strain captain.)
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: West Bend. So you don’t have to go back to my post with the live feed embed, here’s the link. You’ll want the last 40 minutes or so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1EMII5r07o
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Amir Khalid: Well she is a terrible candidate compared to Bernie who’d be up eleventy million percent over Obummer’s tally.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman: More like “Around the Bend”.
ETA: I think we had a West Bend coffee maker when I was a kid.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: I had the wrong video embedded. I’ve since fixed it. The link at Trump’s site said it was for the West Bend speech, which is why I snagged it. But it turned out it was of something else. I’ve since updated and fixed it.
Omnes Omnibus
@JCJ: Yes, I’ve been informed. I saw the mention of Milwaukee earlier and the pics at the art museum (which could not be mistaken for anyplace else in WI), and I figured that he spoke there.
It anyone else wants to correct me, I will pre-acknowledge that, after a visit to Milwaukee, he spoke in Went Bend – which is a whiter shade of pale.
Adam L Silverman
@Betty Cracker: Yep, the black on black crime stuff is the give away.
Calming Influence
“The war on the police must end.” -Donald Trump, tonight.
Yup, that’s exactly what African Americans think. Fucking genius.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
subtle stuff
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: No biggie.
ETA: I can’t watch him. I just can’t. So I went off of the indicators that I had.
Anoniminous
@Amir Khalid:
The ‘Bernie-or-Busters’ can accurately be described as ignorant, petulant, children.
Adam L Silverman
@amk: In terms of his teleprompter speeches, it was his best in terms of delivery. He was also much more animated tonight than he’s been doing a teleprompter speech – other than his convention speech. This doesn’t mean I approve of the content or think its going to resonate with anyone already not supporting him.
Roger Moore
Who wrote this thing. They apparently don’t know you’re supposed to say “Democrat Party”.
Mnemosyne
@the Reverend Lowdown:
Okay, I’ve gotta know — was it just known as West Bend High School, or did they actually say “West Bend East High School” and “West Bend West High School.”
My spouse went to a public high school that served two adjacent cities and therefore was known as Oak Park River Forest High School. Someone once asked him if they just named it after everything they could see from its front lawn.
amk
@randy khan: @scav: Setting such ‘low bars’ for being the best is how the sheer incompetence got mainstreamed and you arrived at donnie dreck.
Omnes Omnibus
Adam, I just had a comment that I edited get marked as spam. If you could… ta’ muchly.
RaflW
I know I’m picking the very rotted low-hanging fruit here:
I just completely love it when white people tell black people to listen up so they’ll hear what is good for them. Love. It.
The Trump meteor is accelerating.
Adam L Silverman
@ruemara: Here you go:
https://cthulhuforamerica.com/
They even have a shop where you can get apparel, hats, accessories, buttons, cell phone cases, signs, and stuff for your house.
https://cthulhuforamerica.com/store/
(And yes, I wished I’d have thought of this, registered the domain, and set up the shop.)
Mary G
Newt Gingrich said it was great and the start of something big. Shameless.
Mnemosyne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Does the Milwaukee Art museum still have a full-size Japanese tea house inside? I haven’t been there in 25 years, at least. It’s no Art Institute, but it was a very nice museum.
JCJ
@Omnes Omnibus:
Sorry! I had just been able to sit down and look at the computer. I should have known to look through the thread first, but I felt obligated to help out a fellow cheeselander!
Adam L Silverman
@Anoniminous: That’s the great thing about people: you can always make more! Actually the greatest thing about people is making more. Or at least the most enjoyable part.
Adam L Silverman
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Its not. Its directly from here and is inextricably linked to the genteel face of white supremacy:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/aug/16/secret-history-trumpism-donald-trump
RaflW
@Mnemosyne: super-majority white, really
Omnes Omnibus
@Mnemosyne: Does the Art Institute have wings? No. Architecturally, Milwaukee rules. Best collection of Impressionists outside of Paris? Art Institute.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: It is free!
Calming Influence
@Adam L Silverman: Breeder humor.
the Reverend Lowdown
@Mnemosyne: Well, as I said the schools are physically connected and share things like the pool, auditorium, etc. I went to West Bend East but had several classes in West. They are distinct entities yet integrated. They have separate sports and academic teams. Yeah, so I would say that I went to East rather than West Bend High.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: No worries, I understand. I’ve got the 20 page pdf transcript of his security policy speech from yesterday to go through so I can do a policy/strategy analysis post on it.
scav
@amk: No, it’s showing a technical attention to the difference between content and style / performance. Your approach is more like the Bulgarian judge awarding a score of total 2 because he doesn’t like the color of the leotards and the athleticism of the routine but prefers ladylike grace. Granted, in common utterance the issue can be confounded, but it’s entirely valid and even useful to notice the difference.
JCJ
@Mnemosyne:
I don’t know if there is a Japanese Tea House inside, but a few years ago a new wing designed by Santiago Calatrava was built. It is quite lovely inside and out.
link
scav
@Calming Influence: It’s also rather ignoring that 9 month bit where it gets really uncomfortable and heavy drugs are strongly suggested at the very end.
Adam L Silverman
@Calming Influence: Its from Rodney Dangerfield’s Back to School. “The best part of having kids is making them.”
Mnemosyne
@Omnes Omnibus:
IIRC, Paris doesn’t really have a great collection of Impressionists. Thanks to the vagaries of war, I believe the Hermitage in Russia has the best collection, with the Art Institute at #2.
And I couldn’t remember the name of the really cool international fair that they used to bus us up to, but then I found it : the Holiday Folk Fair. That was an awesome place to be as a high schooler.
Adam L Silverman
@scav: Fine, the initial production cycle.
(tough crowd tonight, its like the Hinkley jury in here…)
Peale
@gwangung: let’s not forget that he’s also called Obama the dumbest and weakest president in history. Again, republicans don’t now suddenly want black votes. They want white votes. They want a situation where they never have to ask for black votes.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mnemosyne: I went to the Folk Fair thing back in the day.
JCJ
@Mnemosyne:
The Holiday Folk Fair is quite nice. My wife participated in it several years ago. I always liked watching her and the others do classical Thai dancing. My daughter did it one year as well.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Lots of Soviet Olympic judges. “You get 4.3.”
Peale
@JustRuss: seriously. Have they not updated their speech since 1983?
scav
@Adam L Silverman: The initial production cycle throws as big an office party for all the eventual vaporware too. (yes, we all seem to be a bit punchy tonight.)
BR
@Peale:
Still, that includes many of the punditocracy who I’m sure are looking for a potential comeback story. So, who do you think is going to poke him with a stick and get him to react in rage this week?
Anoniminous
@scav:
Real Women® don’t care about that. On the Oregon Trail Real Women® would give birth in the morning and then walk 10 miles to the next camping spot. Real Women® are what Made America Great!
Aleta
Trump often reminds me of a town meeting held years ago, when a chain store bought our locally owned drugstore, which had been operated by one family for over 50 years.
The meeting was not held because of the buyout, and not even because the chain had made an agreement allowing it to buy and demolish 2 other old buildings, one historic, and pave a sloping parking lot that would run off into the river. Townspeople had been able to force the meeting only because the council had also agreed to give the chain a piece of town land and turn over a right of way so they could build the mega building.
The chain rep opened the meeting, and said, “We have been your local drugstore and good neighbor for more than 50 years.” People laughed out loud. The rep went on to tell a number of baldfaced lies. Apparently the corporate strategy was to say anything and assume that some people would believe it.
By now I’ve gotten used to this “business strategy.” Bush, the world’s “first US president with an MBA,” showed how effective it can be.
End of story is that the chain rep gave a statement to the paper saying she had never been so rudely received, out of all the towns they had been to, and they had changed their minds. (It was just a coincidence, I’m sure, that the townspeople had shown that the council did not have the right to abolish the right of way on their own.)
Whenever I hear Trump, I also hear “We have been your local drugstore and good neighbor for more than 50 years.”
Major Major Major Major
Dang it, I was coming here to comment that he didn’t say “democrat party” too.
Calming Influence
@scav: Good point. “Oh boy, the fun keeps on getting better and better! Maybe I should go to the hospital now!”
Adam probably thinks kids are the future, too. They won’t have much of a future if they don’t get off my lawn…
Suffragete City elftx
@Mnemosyne: Nice one but you can’t see River Forest from Oak Park HS lawn.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@RaflW:
The Coulterwocky is trying to stay relevant…
It’s not working.
RaflW
@West of the Rockies (been a while): Yup. That’s at least partly what I mean when I say the Trump meteor is accelerating. Folks like Coulter and Newtie and quite a few others will not come out of the crater looking at all good.
scav
@Anoniminous: Yeah, but Real Women® only lean back, close their eyes and think of their god and country when attending the initial office party.
Mnemosyne
@JCJ:
I’m a born and bred flatlander, but we were pretty much equidistant between Chicago and Milwaukee, so our schools would take us up to cultural events in Milwaukee fairly often.
ETA: Now I’m in CA, where we get fires and earthquakes instead of snow and tornadoes. It’s worth it.
Villago Delenda Est
When Drumpf talks about Democrats being bigots, he’s once again demonstrating decisively that he missed his calling to work down at the multiplex at the mall in the projection booth.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: Da!
Adam L Silverman
@Anoniminous: Are they certified organic and gluten free? Also, low glycemic?
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Why do you want to bring Romanian into it?
Adam L Silverman
@Calming Influence: Do I need to be prepared for pitchforks and torches? Or can I just get ready for bed?
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: I thought Da was yes in Russian? Where’s Gin and Tonic for a ruling?
amk
darth’s daughter (the evil sister) scores a primary win in wyoming. aqua buddha’s endorsement meant jacksquat.
rikyrah
@Anoniminous:
Is this Sam Wang?
Mnemosyne
@Adam L Silverman:
Just hold still while we get the tar heated up …
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Although Romanian is a Romance language, it did adopt “da” from the Slavs as yes rather than a “si” or “oui”. Otherwise, based on my knowledge of French, I can figure out 2/3 of what I see in Romanian. Ex-wife was Romanian, if you need to know why i bothered at all.
scav
@Anoniminous: Also
ahhhh.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@Omnes Omnibus:
What have the Romanians ever done for us?
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: oy vey
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: Tracking.
Major Major Major Major
@West of the Rockies (been a while): Coulter is the monster’s molted skin now. It’s metamorphosed into a Milo.
@Omnes Omnibus: Romanian is as I recall the closest living relative to Latin.
RadioOne
can we finally divorce ourselves form the BernieorBust crew this election? Because they are smug assholes who now give interviews to Infowars and Breitbart in an attempt to get national attention.
Omnes Omnibus
@West of the Rockies (been a while): Not a fucking thing. But the beaches on the Black Sea are quite nice.
Major Major Major Major
One of my “look at me, I’m reluctantly supporting Hillary” friends in on facebook right now talking about the Aetna thing. Which is bad! But he’s complaining that Hillary would be just more of the same not fighting for a public option same old sameness. Seriously, he’s complaining about the public option.
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: It is. I still prefer French.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: I’m a big fan of languages where I can hear at least half of the letters, myself.
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: So, German?
AnotherBruce
@RaflW: For someone who many people believe is very smart. Newt sure picks some stupid battles. (I guess I win the Captain Obvious award for that statement.)
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: Natürlich.
amk
@Anoniminous:
Shocking!!!
Major Major Major Major
@amk: Your winnings, sir.
Villago Delenda Est
@RadioOne: Most of the remaining BernieorBusters are recycled Paulistas to begin with, so no loss at all.
Amir Khalid
@amk:
I’ve always believed that the typical Republican voter is a partisan rather than a right-winger, and that observation only confirms it.
Plantsmantx
It was the usual Republican bullshit on “race” (black people), tweaked a bit in an attempt to have it fit in with his populist nationalist stance.
Plantsmantx
@Adam L Silverman: He still did the annoying sucking in air after every sentence thing he does when he’s reading.
Patricia Kayden
@MikeBoyScout: He showed his love for Latinos by eating a taco bowl on camera. How soon we forget!
erquirk
@Omnes Omnibus: Trump have this “law and order” “policy speech” in West Bend, WI, which is a rural community about 40 minutes outside of Milwaukee.
SRW1
Now that he’s done the black folks, is Trump gonna tackle the weemenz next?
NorthLeft12
@gwangung: The attempted delegitimization of President Obama was [for me] the single most odious sin of the Republican party. I won’t specifically identify Trump as the leader or worst offender, because he wasn’t.
This was a party wide effort that included their propaganda arm [Fox News], and numerous right wing blogs and media outlets. This effort highlighted for millions how the Republicans truly feel about race, democracy, equality, freedom, and the constitution.
IMO this is the “good” that has come out of the last eight years;the blinders are off and the Republicans have exposed their true and ugly nature to the world.
kindness
I do believe minorities are a significant strength for the Democratic Party but I question whether black folk are the ‘core’ of the party. Population wise & statistically I suspect that isn’t accurate.
Betty Cracker
@kindness: Depends on how you define “core,” I guess. Black folks are the most reliable bloc of Democratic voters. We can’t win without them. But there aren’t enough black people to carry a national election without a significant chunk of white votes, of course. We’re a coalition.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: Honestly, I’m not seeing much satire here…I think reality has caught up to satire.
NWliving
When did a city of 32,000 (West Bend, WI), minutes away from a major metro area, start being called “rural”. It’s just another exburb. We called them suburbs when I was growing up in one outside Chicago.
Same nonsense as those with a 5 acre lot thinking they live in the country.