Darlene McBride: Take Back America Tour

Fifteen years ago, this was so controversial, Nicole Sullivan was booed. She had to hide.

We were doing that Darlene McBride sketch, and it was so offensive that the audience started booing. I had to hide behind a monitor. And that’s the clip that’s gone viral, because it’s exactly Donald Trump’s platform. That’s what’s so f–ing crazy. It was the one sketch where the audience was like, “That’s too much. No one would ever say that stuff,” and yet…

Today it’s the RNC platform.

DNC Day 2 open thread.

145 replies
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    satby says:

    Ugh. A comedy sketch made real life.

    And Booman had a post about Bernie already saying he’s returning to the Senate as an independent, not a Dem.

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    Quinerly says:

    Chuck Todd asks, “Is this Bernie’s convention or Hillary’s convention.” Second nominating speech for Bernie now.

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    Aimai says:

    @satby: what an asshole. Well–it was predictable and predicted.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    Holy shit! It’s like she anticipated the entire tea party agenda and the rise of Trump! The woman is a prophet!

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    satby says:

    @Aimai: Yeah. You might even assume a lack of integrity.

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    Quinerly says:

    Rep John Lewis, second nominating speech for Hillary. It’s great! A lot of cheers!

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    Tonight will be hosted by Elizabeth Banks, will include speeches from Tony Goldwyn, America Fererra, and Lena Dunham, who is taking a party bus to Philadelphia and sharing her experience and “fashuns” on social media. Meryl Streep—who was given the distinct honor of Bill Clinton as an opener—will close the night, followed by a performance from Alicia Keys.

    I love Elizabeth Banks. Her movie “Walk of Shame” is drop dead funny.

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    Trentrunner says:

    This video–which is hilarious and sad–shows that Trump is just the culmination, not an aberration or anomaly.

    Trump is who they are.

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    Quinerly says:

    MSNBC’s cameras fixated on BS delegates with BS shirts on who refuse to clap/cheer during John Lewis’s nominating speech.

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    Gotta say, OK, kinda creepy just how prescient that clip is. I mean, it’s all there.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Quinerly: Chuckles the Toddler needs to be on the next rocket ship to the sun.

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    hovercraft says:

    This nominating speech by contest winner is excellent.

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    gogol's wife says:


    Why are you torturing yourself? The whole thing is on CSPAN. No commentary, no editing, the pans over the audience seem to be without agenda.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    Wow. No kidding. She forsaw the Teabaggers and Drumpf.

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    gogol's wife says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    No tumbrels for him?

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    hovercraft says:

    That’s all the media has been focusing on all day. At the end of their chats with the aggrieved they do throw in that polls show that 85 to +90 % are already with Hillary. But still we must focus on the squeaky wheels.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:
    Yes, we know. It’s the fact that it was said. I’m very angry with this. Older Black lady delegate interviewed on the floor says that she won’t vote for HRC under any circumstances. She doesn’t believe in her voting record, HRC stands for nothing, and she first said she didn’t agree with HRC’s “platform” but caught herself.

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    aimai says:

    And of course the self righteous assholes who think Bernie can do no wrong are already explaining how it serves the Democratic Party right if Bernie takes his pure self and goes home! I hope they gavel the rules committee back into session and pass a new rule that you can’t run in the Democratic Primary unless you have been a registered (and voting) Democrat for at least two years prior to deciding to run and you have to sign in blood that you will enthusiastically endorse the winner of the primary two days after they clinch the nomination. Unbelievable, crappy, selfish, egotism on display by Bernie. Can’t even think of a joke to make about this. It doesn’t matter–but it does matter. What.An.Asshole.

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    Mike J says:

    Thank God the roll call will be over before WA gets a chance to embarrass us.

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    Quinerly says:

    Reported that BS will go back to the Senate as an Independent. Left it open when he runs for reelection whether he’ll run as a Dem or not.

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    BR says:

    If you’re tired of the way they cover the convention, complain to them or change the channel (or both)!

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    JMG says:

    @aimai: I think that’s a little unfair to Sanders. He did his best for Clinton last night. He’s not responsible for the facts that some of his supporters and all of the TV media are irresponsible fools and despicable people.

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    Cat48 says:


    It’s Bernie’s Convention. They’ve only talked about Bernie and interviewed his immature supporters. Thank god for cspan!

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @hovercraft: Judging by their convention coverage, MSNBC seems to want to be Salon with moving pictures. Beware of any sign that they’ve hired Camille Paglia as a new contributor.

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    Quinerly says:

    @gogol’s wife:
    Not torturing me. I’ll stop torturing you then. I like to know what’s going on with the interviews and how it’s handled. I’ll quit commenting. I’m off.

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    FlipYrWhig says:


    He’s not responsible for the facts that some of his supporters and all of the TV media are irresponsible fools and despicable people.

    He definitely amplified it in many of them. The supporters at least.

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    James Franks says:

    Watch the direct YouTube feed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fw7XiCJL4M it’s much better

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    Emma says:

    @JMG: Not really, no. If it’s true that he “let slip” that he would become an independent again, that’s pretty much a ratfvck. He could have waited after the convention, or even the election.

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    hovercraft says:

    For once I’ve actually watching CNN, at least they’re showing all the speeches with minimal Wolf between speakers. I’m sure they’ll get around to pissing me off when they have a long enough break for dissenter interviews and the panel telling me democrats are in (dis)array.

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    Mike J says:

    @JMG: He’s been trying to damage the Democratic party since at least January. You can’t spend seven months convincing your cultists the process is corrupt and expect to undo it all with one speech.

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    dr. bloor says:

    @satby: Whatever. At least Jane won’t be described as the wife of a Democratic senator when she ends up in court for trashing Burlington College.

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    Paul Begala's Pink Tie says:

    College friend kept commenting on his Facebook page last night that “Cory Booker sounds angry” or “Elizabeth Warren sounds angry,” as if that were sufficient repudiation of the criticisms of last week’s convention. People like this have inured themselves to hearing any positive message at all from any Dem… It’s making me CRAZY. How about looking at the content instead of exaggerating the tone?

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Paul Begala’s Pink Tie: How’d he feel about Giuliani at the RNC?

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    dogwood says:

    Even when I still had cable, I always watched conventions on CSPAN. People who bitch about cable news and the Village in general don’t have to watch that stuff in the first place. There’s some crazy stuff on CSPAN, but I believe it performs an invaluable public service. I’m always surprised that my liberal friends never think about turning it on rather than watching MSNBC.

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    dr. luba says:

    What’s up with these abstentions in the roll call?

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    Groucho48 says:

    @Paul Begala’s Pink Tie:

    That’s a professional level troll. Keep the troll very simple and basic with a grain of truth in it, then, just keep repeating variations of it until the audience explodes, then…see, you guys are angrier than Trump supporters. Best reaction is no reaction. Just move on past him.

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    Mike J says:

    The deepest gorge in the United States!

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    aimai says:

    @JMG: He is totally responsible for the climate and attitude of his so called revolution, and of his delegates. And if he didn’t want to be responsible for their behavior he should have refused to take part in the show-roll call or permitted his remaining campaign staff to fail to control his delegates on the floor. This is NOT FUCKING ROCKET SCIENCE. The guy has been in politics for decades. He has had to work with excitable staff and voters before. There is literally NO EXCUSE for how utterly crappy a leader he is.
    The decision–which, by the way, his fans online thought was a clintonite smear–to drop his Democratic Party affiliation after the primary is just the icing on the cake. First his followers believe that he has really decided to be part of the Democratic party and anyone pointing out that he’s just an opportunist is a evil, DNC spawned, clintonite liar and then the fact that he has literally gone back on his word to stay a Democrat is treated as yet another sign of the guy’s sturdy authenticity! What the ever loving fuck? Is Bernie responsible for literallly nothing? Is there no lie too stark, no decision too crappy, that an observer can call Bernie out over it? Man–I wish I could be reborn as a white man. It must be heaven to never have to stand by your word, or exhibit grace under pressure, or show leadership and yet be worshipped as a near god.

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    SenyorDave says:

    I was thinking about this whole Bernie or bust thing. What if it had been a closer race and Bernie won at the convention by a hair? I assume that Bernie’s supporters would automatically assume that all HRC suppporters would back him. And I assume almost all would, because Trump is a sociopath. But I am troubled by a few things with Bernie:
    1. No release of tax returns (can’t use Trump’s refusal against him)
    2. His pro gun stances (I know his campaign campaign manager has stated that is the will of the people of Vermont, but does that mean if Bernie had been a senator in the 60’s from the south he would have voted against the Civil Rights Act?
    3. His wife’s running Burlington College into bankruptcy.
    4. His economic plan is a farce, with its 5% long term GDP growth. The last time we had a five-year period of 5% GDP growth was in the 1940’s. We haven’t had 4% growth over five years since the 1970’s. The world has changed too much for 5% long term GDP growth from a fully developed country.

    So if say 10% of HRC supporters refused to support Bernie, I can only imagine the whining from many of Bernie’s supporters about disloyal Democrats!

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    TriassicSands says:


    …you have to sign in blood that you will enthusiastically endorse the winner of the primary two days after they clinch the nomination.

    I understand the sentiment, but loyalty oaths are probably never a good idea. If you look back at American history, are you really comfortable with the kind of people who have called for loyalty oaths in our past? If so, you might find yourself rubbing elbows with the likes of Joe McCarthy. Imagine if one day a populist demagogue in the Democratic Party captures the nomination — remember the problem wouldn’t necessarily be with the party, but with the American voters, an unreliable bunch. Of course, that is one of the purposes of Superdelegates — prevent the crazies from nominating an embarrassment. But, still, under the right (wrong?) circumstances, it could happen.

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    🐾BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @dr. luba: Baud’s votes.

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    Bill E Pilgrim says:

    @Quinerly: Chuck Todd is even more of a misinformed, propaganda-spewing cretin than I assumed he already was.

    Rough transcript of an exchange that just happened: Ex Clinton Administration pundit points out that Democrats like ex-presidents and others actually want to be at this convention, in contrast to the Republicans, and says “that’s unity” in contrast to the Republicans.

    To which Todd responds with a smirk “It’s getting there.” and adds “You know, it was the same with the Republican Convention, you think they’re not going to be unified, but by the end it pretty much was!”

    Thus missing or in denial about the whole point she was making about how few prominent Republicans even wanted to be at the Republican convention, as she then starts to point out in rebuttal but he talks over her.

    I wonder if when he shakes hands with people he then pulls his hand away and insists on shaking with the left hand also, yelling “Both sides do it!”. It’s that pathological.

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    BR says:

    I’ve moved past this Bernie stuff. I never thought I’d say this, but I’m actually excited to see Clinton be put into nomination. As someone who never was a Clinton fan, and was an Obama diehard in 2008, it’s really a weird feeling.

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    Mike J says:

    @TriassicSands: No, if you can’t support the Democratic nominee, you should not be a delegate to the convention.

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    TriassicSands says:

    @Mike J:

    There is a difference between expecting people to support a nominee and requiring an oath of allegiance.

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    hovercraft says:

    Hillary’s friend was very touching.

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    Ksmiami says:

    as I said before and again. Fuck Bernie and his whiny assed privileged followers. If Trumps elected, they will have blood on their hands

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    No, they will have Drumpf on their hands

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    Mike in NC says:

    Fifteen years ago, this was so controversial, Nicole Sullivan was booed. She had to hide.

    Today you can get fired for sexual harassment at FOX News and walk away with a $40M golden parachute. A con man famous for hosting tacky reality TV shows can be nominated for president. We’re living in some alternate universe where the worse you are, the bigger the payoff.

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    The Thin Black Duke says:

    @aimai: And that’s why the loud angry dumb white guys are fighting so hard to keep their unearned privilege. For them, everybody else being treated equal is a lower pay grade.

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    Cat48 says:


    I really,enjoy cspan too. It covers everything in the government. My husband has been addicted to it for years. I can’t tolerate the callers though. They have been vicious during the Obama years. I used to enjoy msnbc coverage of the 2008 elections, but that was a magic time.

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    Paul Begala's Pink Tie says:

    @FlipYrWhig: he has too many liberal friends to come out fully as a Republican or post anything positive about Trump, so he’s restricting himself to minor, snarky shit-talking. Example: reference to Melania being “cyber-bullied.” Sad! (I really am; he was a good friend.)

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    🌷 Martin says:

    @Mike in NC: Even better, Trump flirting with the idea of hiring Ailes because of course sexual harassment is just a manifestation of America becoming too PC.

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    Mike J says:


    There is a difference between expecting people to support a nominee and requiring an oath of allegiance.

    I have no problem with telling would be delegates at the state convention that if they won’t pledge their support for the party’s nominee, they’re aren’t qualified to be a delegate. They are already pledged to one of the candidates, and have to agree in writing. That’s what being a delegate means. No problem making it explicit that Democrats support the Democratic candidate.

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    BR says:

    I’m enjoying the c-span feed in the background. Every time I look, I get to see a bit of America. Much better than the GOP convention.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Mike in NC:

    We’re living in some alternate universe where the worse you are, the bigger the payoff.

    No, that’s the American Dream for some people.

    A lot of people would be just like Trump if they could do it.

    On the convention. What time are the main speakers scheduled for this evening? I may be traveling, but will try to catch the main event.

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    burnspbesq says:


    We have two years to find an actual Democrat who can beat his ass in 2018. Let’s get busy.

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    BR says:

    btw, who is the person running the roll call? I don’t recognize her.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @aimai: There is something very weird, like disturbing-level weird, about the hold that Bernie Sanders has over so many of the people who like him. Because I’m mostly of the opinion that the people who latched onto Sanders would have latched onto O’Malley if _he_ had been the significant non-Hillary standing, the way the left attached to Bill Bradley in ’00 and Jerry Brown in ’92. But then there are these very striking cult-of-personality goings-on. The excuse-making, the devotion, the weeping with love. Something ain’t right about it.

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    Thoughtful David says:

    Two years isn’t long enough. Should be four. Then you’d have had to be a Democrat through a whole cycle.

    OTOH, you can’t be President until you’re 35. So maybe it should be 16 years.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @burnspbesq: Hasn’t Al Giordano already committed to this task?

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    Applejinx says:

    @aimai: Bullshit. Is he responsible for Brexit too? The same social dynamics are present there. He is riding the tiger and trying to not get thrown off.

    He endorsed Clinton and he wasn’t fooling. I’ve seen others make long lamenting speeches (just now, a guy on Facebook) to the same effect. You know what happens to them? Maybe five guys like me post ‘thank you’, and five HUNDRED people screech for the blood of the betrayer and five THOUSAND people upthumb that.

    You are asking too god-damned much of a working politician. I’m disappointed that (to hear you guys tell it: I can’t always completely trust all of you to be truthful, but this time it rings pretty true) Bernie’s returning to the Senate an Independent. I was sure he was going to stick as a Dem. There is no practical difference as he caucuses with Dems anyhow and has made his position clear.

    But it’s a survival tactic, and when I look at the (probably mostly astroturfed!) pressure he’s under, I’m not mad about him bolting for the protective cover of being an Independent.

    Learn to politics, and beat your own horse please. Bernie has tried to channel the same revolutionary forces that gave the UK its Brexit, into productive and liberal purposes. I’m not prepared to say he’s failed, but trying to thread that needle has given him more damage than any amount of DNC-funded, vengeful primary challengers.

    You do realize he could have been guaranteed his Senate seat for life and a goddamn army of nutballs just for NOT ENDORSING? He fell on his sword for you, you ungrateful fuckmuggle. He committed to an endorsement that threatens to wreck his politician livelihood FOR YOU. This is not him reneging, this is him trying to survive the fallout of endorsing YOUR candidate. Your bitterly disliked, heavily lied-about, wildly controversial candidate. He did it not because he’s that thrilled about Hillary, he did it for you and for our country and because she really is near-infinitely better than what’s going on over in Red Zone Cleveland.

    Responsible for the rage out there in this country, my ass. Wake the fuck up. We can still win but you’re not helping. How dare you not be helping?

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    hovercraft says:

    I guess the super delegates aren’t coming to their senses.
    Opps I hope I don’t start something.

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    Applejinx says:

    @burnspbesq: Fuck you. Over my dead body. One day. You couldn’t give him one day after endorsing YOUR candidate.

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    🐾BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @BR: Mayor of Baltimore.

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    lamh36 says:

    Evening peeps.

    Just arriving home for the roll call. I missed A-M…awww.

    I do love watching the roll call votes.

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    BR says:

    Sigh. Folks, I think the delegates on the floor now are actually showing more unity than this thread.

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    bystander says:

    Chuckles the Toddler is at his worst. He just mused that Bill Clinton has always had problems endorsing Hillary. He never seems to endorse her fully. BTW, Bill is depressed and unhappy because he’s no longer the most popular Democrat in the world. The Toddler actually said that. Surprisingly enough, Chuckie never told us how he knows this.

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    hovercraft says:

    Stephanie Rollins Blake Baltimore mayor

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    dogwood says:

    There’s always a double standard. During the primaries Clinton supporters around here almost always begian every comment about why they supported her with the disclaimer that they loved Bernie, would vote for him if he won blah, blah, blah, before they even wrote about her. We had to buy the bs that he was good for the party and was moving her left when there wasn’t any evidence that that was true. President Obama had to do the same thing, bow to Bernie and his dead-enders before endorsing Clinton. The Sanders people here, who said they’d vote for Clinton always let it be known they hated her and it was merely the lesser of two evils. I think most women and POC have learned to acquiesce to this double standard because that’s the price we pay for accomplishing anything. It’s like Tim Kaine talking about his mother asking him if he wanted to be right or do right. Ultimately it comes down to that, but there are times when you can’t help but wish the other side would maybe admit they weren’t right about everything.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @burnspbesq: Looks like Peter Welch is a Bernie fan and Madeleine Kunin is over 80. How about current gov., about to retire, Peter Shumlin?

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    Chyron HR says:


    That’s funny, since Bernie couldn’t give the democratic party one day after he finally realized that he really and truly wasn’t going to be President.

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    aimai says:

    @TriassicSands: Nonsense! Asking people who want to run in the democratic primary to be democrats and support the eventual nominee is not a loyalty oath within the common meaning of the term. Its an anti ratfucking measure which any honest candidate should be proud to sign. That Bernie did not, and does not, feel himself bound by the most basic sense of courtesy to the Democratic party that hosted him–and is hosting him right now–is a disgrace.

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    Gin & Tonic says:


    But it’s a survival tactic

    Excuse me? I generally appreciate your comments, and that you’ve come around more fully than some other Berniacs, but in fucking Vermont it’s a survival tactic to run Independent as opposed to Democratic? Vermont? Who are you kidding?

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    burnspbesq says:


    Over my dead body.

    If you insist.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Applejinx: APPLEJINX justifies and excuses something Bernie Sanders does? Because of a little puppet play in his mind where one of the characters is Bernie Sanders The Pure? NO WAY!

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    lamh36 says:

    GOOD…Dems did not want a repeat of what fiasco at RNC.

    ‏@nycjim 10m10 minutes ago
    Many of the delegations are going out of their way to praise #BernieSanders in casting ballots.

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    dogwood says:

    When the tea party emerged and the media treated them like some new phenomenon, it made me laugh. Obviously they had never listened to a CPAN call-in program over the last 30 years.

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    BR says:


    I’m seeing a lot more unity in this roll call. It’s pretty feel good.

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    Applejinx says:

    @BR: They can stop talking about primarying MY SENATOR for one day after he’s endorsed their/our candidate and stirred up the hornet’s nest on their behalf.

    I don’t care if they’re all Putin hacks and astroturfers. He lined up with Clinton for the good of the country knowing this could happen, and I am livid to see the usual suspects right back to their talk of primarying MY senator. Why don’t you ask Al Giordano how he feels about that, because I saw him saying he was satisfied. He’s not a fucking idiot, he knows the stakes of Bernie doing this endorsing.

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    aimai says:

    @Applejinx: I’m not asking anything of Bernie that a god damned “working politician” shouldn’t be able to manage. I am gobsmacked that you think there is any excuse for Bernie’s inability to harness his demogogued dogs. IT was obvious to anybody watching that Bernie was lighting a faux populist fire that he would not be able to put out. But when this was pointed out to people like you (until you gave up) we were all assured that Bernie knew what he was doing, was an honorable man, was a great leader. Bullshit. He got in over his head throwing meth to his fans and now is trying to salvage his own political identity by, essentially, retiring back to being an “indepenent” so he can pretend he never ran as a Democrat and isn’t responsible for the behavior of his delegates.

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    ruemara says:

    @aimai: Amen.

    Not surprised at how this was prescient. Good satire often is.

    @Applejinx: aaaannnnd fuck you. You’re wrong, unsurprisingly.

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    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    What’s up with the abstentions? A chance to get another bite of the apple for the roll call?

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    raven says:

    @Comrade Scrutinizer: Sometimes they do it for positioning.

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    burnspbesq says:


    Phil Baruth, the majority leader of the VT Senate, is from Burlington. Worth looking at.

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    Applejinx says:

    @aimai: Does Trump control his people?

    This idea that the politicians are directing and grooming their constituencies, to the extent that they can be hated on for FAILING to properly train their dogs, is creepy as fuck. Maybe it’s true for Hillary. It’s palpably not true for anybody else in the race, and if it is true for Hillary I don’t like what she’s done with you guys. :P

    Again, it’s starkly obvious Bernie would’ve had an army of frantic nutballs. All he had to do was not endorse. He did it FOR YOU and is now trying to survive the consequences of helping YOU (and us, granted, but consider the optics)

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    debbie says:

    @David 🍁▶️Hillary/Harley Quinn 2016▶️🍁 Koch:

    The first two seasons of Mad TV were genius.

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    BR says:


    ??? I don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Anyway, I’m not going to get dragged into whatever pie fight is going on. I’m feeling the unity despite any efforts on any side to make it otherwise.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Applejinx: Here you go. He says he won’t raise money for HRC.

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    Cat48 says:


    He made a huge mistake by not conceding or suspending his campaign the first week after he lost DC. There is no excuse for what he did.

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    jenn says:

    @Applejinx: I have to say that Sanders’ bolt upsets me, too. He came in, used the Democratic party for his own convenience and ambition, and once no longer convenient, left. Had he won, I would have voted for him over Trump, and not having won, I’m glad that there was someone in the race to help move the party and platform left – but if he didn’t want to be a Democrat, he shouldn’t have run as one.

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    The Thin Black Duke says:

    Applejinx is a convenient but disgenuous weathervane who thinks he sees which way the wind is blowing. Cherish the Bernie Sanders in your head if it brings you comfort, but the Bernie Sanders I saw is a grifter whose con got the best of him and he’s trying to salvage what’s left of his political career. Thankfully we won’t have to deal with his bullshit anymore.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Applejinx: You are ridiculous. Bernie Sanders lectures all Democrats about how to be a Democrat, then gives up LITERALLY THE NEXT DAY, following in the footsteps of his Tweedledee Cornel West, and YOU are the one with the hurt feelings about how people are being mean to poor Bernie, who just make YOU look like an idiot for trusting him to stay, WHICH YOU ADMITTED IN YOUR OWN POST? What the fuck is the matter with you? Did someone put more hallucinogens than normal in the water in Vermont? Fuck Bernie Sanders, fuck everyone who’s ever had a kind word about Bernie Sanders, and you can all bang your bongos with tape over your mouths until you evolve into beings of pure energy. Then go the fuck away and bother some other planet. Maybe you can boo gravity.

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    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    Love these little roll call speeches. I kinda miss the roll calls when there was some drama to the process though.

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    slag says:

    Does anyone have an actual live stream link? YouTube is killing me. (Sorry if it was already posted upthread!)

    ETA Nevermind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fw7XiCJL4M. Finally!

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    bupalos says:

    Pretty fun trying to decide who’s the drunkest in these roll calls. I thought it was NJ, with a line very much like “New Jersey, with the state that is the proud state… of the garden state…” And “the only state with the 2 Senators…. of…Menendez and Cory Booker!”

    But New Mexico giving a strong run, shouting out being the state of “Breaking Bad…the show,” and “the state question that is red or green…[long pause] …that is about chili” Good stuff.

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    Applejinx says:

    And now having sufficently telegraphed to Burns, Whig and Sundry (my LEAST favorite law firm ever) exactly how to troll the fuck out of Applejinx, I gotta bail. Got a meeting to go to. Pray continue being clinton-undermining monsters in my absence, do go on :P

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    burnspbesq says:


    Your Senator is a non-Democrat who has accomplished jack shit for the people of Vermont in his two terms in the Senate. He’s fair game.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Applejinx: OH MY GOD BERNIE SANDERS PRACTICALLY HAS HIS HAND UP YOUR ASS FLAPPING YOUR LIPS TO REPEAT WHAT HE SAYS and you profess to say that Bernie Sanders can’t control anyone. You are a piece of work, dude, seriously.

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    gogol's wife says:


    You’re not torturing me. But you seem to be really distressed, so I think you’d be calmer watching CSPAN. You’re free to comment all you want! I just know I personally would not be able to stand MSNBC (or PBS) commentary.

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    jenn says:

    @BR: Yeah, I’ve actually been moved to tears a couple of times. It’s great to see everyone getting to cheer their own delegates’ votes.

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    Trollhattan says:

    @Paul Begala’s Pink Tie:
    Spool up Mayor 9-11’s speech for this friend and ask for a detailed compare-and-contrast. You can’t get past “11” on the anger dial, I checked, and Rudy spent the entire time there.

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    Applejinx says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Yeah, because THAT’LL work. All the Clinton people will just love hearing from him, and all the Busters will be SO pleased to have him hitting them up for money specifically for Clinton. Listen to yourselves.

    Thank God Hillary Clinton is a lot better than you. I stand by Bernie’s endorsement of her, and suggest you lot stop being Bros. Jesus fuck. You couldn’t give it one day.

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    Mary G says:

    @lamh36: I also love the roll call and the sometimes random things each state brags about. I watch on C-SPAN so there are no commercials and no moronic commentary from anyone.

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    gogol's wife says:


    I wasn’t trying to offend you! I like your comments. I just felt you were being unnecessarily irritated by Chuckles & Co.

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    bupalos says:

    Nice Oklahoma B-Busters. Blocking out your own speakers with a giant BERNIE banner.

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    BR says:


    And the people really look like America. Not the non-diverse GOP crowd.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    One day. You couldn’t give him one day after endorsing YOUR candidate.

    Oh, just stop. Bernie couldn’t be arsed to give the Democratic Party one day. Could he at the fucking least let Hillary try to enjoy her moment in the sun this week?

    From now on, I’m not referring to him as “Bernie.” I’m referring to him as “NARD.” That isn’t short for Bernard. It stands for Not A Real Democrat.

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    Enhanced Voting Techinques says:


    and Jerry Brown in ’92. But then there are these very striking cult-of-personality goings-on.

    Have you paid attention to the job Brown as done as governor? That’s a serious “what if”,if Jerry Brown had gotton the nomination and elected in 92.

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    jenn says:

    @BR: Yeah, it’s great, isn’t it! And I too, love the random state factoids that folks have been throwing out. Awesome!

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    dogwood says:

    One day? He had month to get real with these delegates and didn’t bother. He used the Convention to give his stump speech and try to calm them down, but it is too late. So he’s going back to Vermont with email list that he won’t share to keep bombarding me with emails about the revolution. And what pisses me off about his contact list is the fact that he got my info from someone who gave it to him. I never signed up to get harassed by this guy. When I get annoyed at the stuff from Pelosi, Obama, Biden, warren etc, I know I signed onto it.

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    BR says:

    Oregon is the first state to actually annoy me.

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    Emma says:

    @Applejinx: He did it for US? You’re joking, right? He did it to salvage whatever leverage he had in the Senate. And then one day after endorsing her, he informs everyone he will go back to being an independent and he won’t help raise money for the Democratic candidate. And unless Vermont has changed a lot in six months, Bernie could run as a flaming red-ragger and he would get elected.

    Once thing I will say. I don’t want to run anyone against him. I don’t want to punish him. I want him to fade slowly into oblivion with the full knowledge that his revolution died in Philadelphia.

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    gogol's wife says:


    Wow, when you’ve riled Siubhan Duinne, you know you’ve been a dick.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Applejinx: I hope your “meeting” is more of an intervention or a deprogramming because your family is concerned about your recent eccentric behavior.

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    gogol's wife says:


    I’d be very happy to welcome Sen. Giordano to the fold.

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    bupalos says:

    “Oregon, the whitest state in the union, casts some votes for Killary Killington, hope she chokes on them. AND FEELING THE BERN WE CAST 36 VOTES FOR BERNIE SAUNDERS!!!! WHOOOOO HWWOOWOWOWOOOOOOO”

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    They can stop talking about primarying MY SENATOR for one day after he’s endorsed their/our candidate and stirred up the hornet’s nest on their behalf.

    A hornet’s nest he created and populated with his over-the-top rhetoric, negative campaign and unhinged, obnoxious surrogates, from West and Sarandon and Moore down to the obnoxious children who booed Elijah Cummings.

    He built this. To serve his own ego.

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    burnspbesq says:


    Is there an “unsubscribe” link at the bottom of his emails?

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    🌷 Martin says:

    Interesting strategy developing here of winning over the 10% or so Sanders supporters that are signaling not voting for Clinton. Not sure it’s going to prove entirely effective.

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    Applejinx says:

    @FlipYrWhig: I’m clean and sober over 23 years. Heroin is devastating New Hampshire, and the US in general. I’m going to a fucking meeting and telling suffering addicts they don’t have to use, ever again. Because that’s true.

    Some of you people are alarmingly 4-channy. Hillary will win in spite of you, and I hope someday you understand the kind of damage you’ve done in your efforts to be a screaming meemy. Same old Whig as ever. I respect aimai a lot more than you, Whig.

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    Mike E says:

    @Groucho48: Forget it Jake…it’s Easy Pickinstown

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    Emma says:

    @🌷 Martin: You really think they would? Have you heard them? “It’s more important to punish the DNC than to defeat Trump.”

    Time for coddling is over. The parade is moving. Lead, follow, or get out of the way. Up to you.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @gogol’s wife:

    Wow, when you’ve riled Siubhan Duinne, you know you’ve been a dick.


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    The Thin Black Duke says:

    @Applejinx: How can you say goodbye if you won’t go?

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    Applejinx says:

    @🌷 Martin: Hell, I’ll crawl over broken glass to vote for Clinton, as will Bernie, and plenty of other wild lefty scum.

    I’m more worried about these guys justifying everything the hippies are saying about them. We have freaked out politics-noobs to settle down, and to persuade that voting for Clinton isn’t all bad. But hey! Let’s also tell them we’re going to reap a terrible vengeance on their pet sparrow-tamer and ruin his life! Because he is an evil bastard who deserves to be ground into the dirt! WHAT great optics!

    Jesus. :P

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    dogwood says:

    I’ve tried that, but to no avail.

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    Applejinx says:

    @The Thin Black Duke: Got me there. I’ll be late. toodles.

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    debbie says:


    I got news for you. This is exactly what happened when the McCarthy and Kennedy campaigns did not succeed. It was very difficult for supporters to let go of their candidate because they believed so strongly in the cause. Had Obama not won the nomination in 2008, I guarantee many, if not most, of the people here now complaining about Sanders would be bitching just as much as the hard-core Sanders are now.

    Let it go already. Stop with the digs and the barbs. Be gracious in your victory and be ready to welcome any Sanders supporters into your ranks. Be at least half as gracious as Hillary herself is. The Democratic party — at least the one I know and have supported for what seems like a million years — is better than this.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @SenyorDave: Sanders also would have been a disaster for down ticket races, especially the Senate. Assuming he was leading Trump in the polls– a big assumption– you could write the Friedman/Brooks/Roberts etc columns “important that we keep moderates like Rob Portman and Kelly Ayotte and Mark Kirk as a check on a hypothetical President Sanders…”

    He pissed off a lot of people over the years, Obama supporters, gun-safety activists, Israel supporters, and the notion that his message of “I’m going to raise your taxes FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!” would draw the too-much-discussed White Working Class away from Trump is pretty absurd to me. The 2016 Dem needs the Obama coalition, the guy who talked about primarying Obama and can often barely conceal his disdain for him. And that’s mostly just domestic policy.

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    🐾BillinGlendaleCA says:

    Vermont passes, looks like Bernie’s going to do the right thing.

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    Mister Forkbeard says:

    Honestly, I think Sanders needed to start winding down his base after California. And he’s somewhat responsible for how they’re acting out now.

    However, I’m happy at how much he’s pushing for Hillary to win now, and how hard he’s pushing his supporters to vote for her. I wish it sounded more like a positive case for her and not a “we can’t let trump win” case, but that’s hard to do when your supporters believe she’s a war-criminal-devil-incarnate-bank-stooge. Now, he did help push them that way, but right now it doesn’t serve anyone’s purposes to hate on him OR his supporters.

    I do wish he’d kept his yap shut about not fundraising for Hillary, and I also hope that the thing about “returning as an Independent” is taken out of context, because those quotes are going to grab attention and encourage more “Dems in disarray!” media stories and those really aren’t needed during the election. He can do those things, but it would’t have hurt him to wait 2-3 weeks instead of blurting it out now.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Gin & Tonic: If he “won’t raise money for Hillary” does that mean he is not going to share his zillion-person email list?

    That would be a huge FU to the democratic party.

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    burnspbesq says:


    The voice vote on a motion to make it unanimous is going to be interestimg.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    I have heard — but did not see it written anywhere, so can’t link — that he will not share his email list.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Bastard!

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    🚸 Martin says:

    @Emma: Just ignore them. They have no power, no organization left. If they feel wronged, let them feel wronged.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    “The live stream is over. Thanks for watching.” WTF????!?!?

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    Death Panel Truck says:

    A year or so into Hillary’s first term, people won’t even remember Barney Saunders’ name.

    I’ve already forgotten it.

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    rikyrah says:

    @burnspbesq: He totally should run.

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