Frequent evening commentor Miss Bianca:
OK, I’ve been bragging on the Office Kittens and everyone’s all like, “pics or they don’t exist!”
For the record, I’m a ‘dog and cat’ kind of gal – but having a Siberian Husky at home makes house cats out of the question. So being designated as “cat mamma” to the Office Kittens (our baby mousers!) has been my dream come true – I get my dog fix at home and my cat fix at work!
The orange and white one is Pancho (he’s the boy) and the little tricolor is Lefty (she’s the girl). They’re both serious snugglers.
Annnd…sleepy kitties are awake!
Much more pleasant way to start the morning than the alternatives.
What else is on the agenda, as we start another day?
Elizabelle
They’re adorable. Enjoy! I see them getting out that window before too long, though. Beware.
Boneless cat thing, and all.
rikyrah
Good Morning ?, Everyone ?
rikyrah
Those kitties are too cute for words.?
seaboogie
Clearly this is a devious move by your corporate overlords to get you to work OT without pay….they brought the squee, and you surrendered….I’ll share a cool “corporate” cat story during the daytime hours tomorry….
Scapegoat
Office cats are awesome.
That said, did we break any discrimation laws when advertising for new employees who were “not allergic to cats”?!?!
Cat48
The kitties are so sweet. It makes me miss mine.
raven
meow
BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: woof
CarolDuhart2
Squee for office kitties! It makes me impatient for the day I can have another cat in the house again.
Meanwhile, I’ve been fascinated about the fallout of #Brexit. It’s like a trainwreck that crashes every hour on the hour…I’ve been reading Scottish independence websites by the hour, The guardian every half hour….
CarolDuhart2
Scotland is looking for a way out of this mess. 60+ of the Scottish people voted to remain, which shouldn’t surprise anyone. Tourism is big in Scotland, and the easy access to foreigners that open borders and no-passport EU rules allow is essential to that flow. Add the influence and the need for a Scottish diaspora, and Leave had an enormous hurdle to climb.
Keith G
Just a heads up for any who might care. Bernie Sanders has penned a guest editorial in this morning’s New York Times. I have not read it yet as I do a thorough front to back read as I attack my breakfast.
OzarkHillbilly
@Keith G: Bernie who?
raven
@CarolDuhart2: How will leaving address the open borders? Are not those borders with England?
OzarkHillbilly
So, who’s idea was it to hold the Olympics in Rio?
Cermet
Amazing how one security police saw and shot down one bomber in the airport; footage shows the bomber going down and then uselessly detonating his bomb. That officer saved a lot of innocent people.
Keith G
@OzarkHillbilly: Hee hee.
I am just hoping he has enough situational awareness to have a thesis statement which is a call to action supporting Hillary. But in case he doesn’t, I always take a shower after breakfast and the morning newspapers.
Elizabelle
@Keith G: He’s getting schooled in the comments about being gracious and supporting the actual presumptive nominee, Hillary Clinton. Who won.
It’s not the usual cheering section.
CarolDuhart2
@raven: The open borders is a EU rule. Britain has opted out of the EU and apparently want controls on entry again. Leaving and joining the EEA or the EU means free movement of people and goods, important matters for tourists and business. An independent Scotland in the EU, or affliated with the EEA will conform to those rules.
Right now, there is a vaccuum. Nobody knows what the future holds right now. Businesses and people could make long-to-medium range plans because they knew the rules.
Keith G
@Elizabelle: spoiler alert!
Elizabelle
@Keith G:
Headline:
NY Times commenter MEH:
raven
@Cermet: Too bad he couldn’t get a head shot and stop the detonation.
raven
@CarolDuhart2: I realize that, so what we are talking about is ports?
Schlemazel Khan
@OzarkHillbilly:
Politicians ans business leaders there had to organize and beg the Olympic committee to come to Rio. If past experience is a guide this included several million dollars in bribes including gifts, free travel, hookers and actual cash, money that could have been better spent fixing some of the things people are complaining about.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
Patricia Kayden
Kitties on Hump Day! Great way to start the day.
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: $$$$
Cermet
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: :)
@raven: Agreed but at least he didn’t kill anyone else.
The inferior court needs more judges that believe in science and two such members that do are getting very old. This makes electing Hillary THE most important reason to get out and veto! The senate MUST be flipped, too.
BillinGlendaleCA
Sunset.
Patricia Kayden
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Ha ha! Just wait until President Clinton gets her replacement for Scalia confirmed. We’re going to have an even more liberal SCOTUS when that happens.
SectionH
Oooo! So we’re gonna see a competition between the WaPo and the NYT. I’d say I’m waiting for injuries, but I think Bezos hates Trump more than the faceless slime worms at the NYT hate Hillz. Because it’s more current.
Good.
In no news at all, Bernie Corbyn and Jeremy Sanders are still assholes.
OzarkHillbilly
@Schlemazel Khan: You mean things like gas for their police cars? What a novel idea!
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
Susan Sarandon’s daughter is preggers. She’s tired of being preggers so she did what every socialist revolutionary does in such times – she boarded a private plane and jetted to the Bahamas for a babycation. Then she posted pix of her trust fund woes just like Karl Marx intended (photo).
Cat48
Terrorists have to shoot thru the outside police checkpoint, blow up the X-ray you have to go thru to enter the airport. One running suicide bomber made it inside. I know a lot of people are dead & injured, but their security isn’t that bad. Just my opinion. They could have done far more damage in a US airport since there were 3 or more. I still wouldn’t fly there bc they’re targeting tourists in Turkey, per State Dept warning.
OzarkHillbilly
Heh. Havana IL Facebook post yesterday:
The pictures are worth the drive over.
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: Used to stop at the “Ringside Tap” on our way to Keokuk for our infamous river trips! We’d fish all day and ride the Addie May at night!
Elizabelle
WaPost: re Asheville
How North Carolina’s idyllic hipster haven is being hurt by the “bathroom bill” boycott
Sad the Asheville businesses are hurting, but sometimes the only way you make progress is hitting people in the pocketbook. Money talks. If Asheville is seeing this, you can be sure other North Carolina localities are feeling the pinch too.
No to Art Pope and the retrograde North Carolina legislature.
Schlemazel Khan
@Cat48:
There security is tougher than ours in the US. They also are sending a huge warning about the easiest soft target currently available – TSA waiting lines. In some cases there could be more than a hundred unscreened people snaking back and forth in a relatively small locations. If it is winter a parka would make excellent cover.
I have to assume nobody working these issues has ever tried to think like a terrorist & it pisses me off. Flying a plane into the WTC was a scenario every decent security guy was aware of by the mid 90s, the folks responsible for security apparently never thought of it. Our response was to solve one problem by creating an easier target. Those responsible are either incompetent or heartless.
OzarkHillbilly
@Patricia Kayden: After getting their asses handed to them in Nov, what makes you think the GOP Senate is going to let Hillary nominate anyone? They will confirm Garland in double quick time if this election goes as I suspect it will. And I don’t see Obama pulling the rug out from under Garland either.
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: $$$$@Elizabelle: Malaprops is a great bookstore.
Schlemazel Khan
@OzarkHillbilly:
Yeah, exactly like paying for police salaries and fuel.
Wasn’t it Denver that backed out of the Olympics a few back? They actually examined the cost/benefit and realized it was not worth it.
Cat48
@OzarkHillbilly:
I miss my home in IL. The mayflies were always disgusting invasions.
satby
@OzarkHillbilly:
I hope not, not Obama’s style and Garland is a great and highly qualified judge. I’m not that concerned that he’d end up voting with the conservatives, I suspect he’s in the camp of jurists who were appalled by the disregard for precedent set by Scalia and his minions.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
How can this be?!??
but..but… but.. Benghazi-Truther hack Griftwald assured us Obummer’s lies and cover-up would be exposed – eleventy.
satby
Ms. Bianca, hope those kittens are neutered and spayed. Last time I had cute sibling kittens like that to foster the female ended up preggers at 6 months. They had been malnourished so we thought they were a couple of months younger.
Elizabelle
@raven: Good to hear. I will check it out this year.
Schlemazel Khan
Todays headline –
BENGHAZI COMMITTEE: CLINTON TO BLAME FOR BENGHAZI PANEL
HER INNOCENCE PUT MANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS AT RISK
Baud
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Garland would have helped on immigration.
SFAW
Meanwhile, in the purportedly bluest-of-the-blue states (and Commonwealths), the allegedly-liberal Boston Globe‘s morning headlines e-mail talks about the (interim end of the) Benghazi witch hunt, saying that report “has no new evidence of wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton.” I realize that I’m an old fart, and thus can’t remember shit, but what was the OLD evidence of wrongdoing by Hillary?
All I can think of is the e-mail server thing, but I wasn’t aware of that it was considered “wrongdoing,” in the sense that the word has traditionally been used, i.e., to characterize criminal or evil behavior.
I cannot tell you how thrilled I am that John Henry and Michael Sheehan have turned the formerly-liberal Glob into Boston Herald-lite. It’s the primary reason I killed my print subscription. Assholes.
ETA: And I see (from David Koch) that the Times has also adopted that line. Must have been in today’s Kewl Kidz Memes e-mail.
Cat48
@Schlemazel Khan:
That’s what I thought about immediately, waiting for security screening. On a busy day, 3 suicide bombers could do unspeakable damage in a large US airport. Also, ticket counters. Really scary. Sounds like you get two screens, one b4 entering the terminal and a security screen before entering the boarding lounge. Not bad really.
Baud
The Orlando shooter killed more people than three well trained ISIS terrorists in Istanbul.
RSA
That little S-shaped scratching board in the third photo down was our cats’ favorite thing; when they were kittens they’d crawl under it to hit at the hanging bell in the tunnel underneath, and they’d hide there when pretend-hunting. When they got too big for that, it was still a good place to rest, despite (or maybe because of) the curve.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
8 point lead = tie
Liberal media bias in action.
Elmo
@Scapegoat: Potentially an ADA violation, if you actually meant it. But then so is almost everything, so I wouldn’t worry about it.
I could tell you such stories…
Baud
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Hahahaha. Smell the desperation.
OzarkHillbilly
@raven: Back in the day, some friends and I would go to the Ragtime Festival every year. They held it on the Goldenrod Showboat and we’d cruise up and down the river while listening to great music played by some really colorful people and knocking back a few cold ones.
After years and years of trying to save it, the Goldenrod went to the great scrapyard in the sky just a few months ago. Had a lot of good times on that boat.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@Cat48: Are you the person who was worried about a new kitty outliving you?
Several of the rescues in my area have a “Bring the cat back to us if you are unable to care for him” clause in their adoption contract. Keep the paperwork identifying the rescue with your other important papers so it will be easy for your executor to find.
Cat48
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
Media has never identified a coming wave in an election. It’s too early for one thing.
Charlie Cook always writes an apology for missing the wave. Their running ads for five senators but not in WI or IL. May have given up on those two.
Schlemazel Khan
@SFAW:
The Liberal NPR talked ominously about ‘e-mail server’ on All Things Considered’ last night when doing the story on the committee farce. That apparently was more newsworthy than the results of the report
OzarkHillbilly
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: What they refuse to acknowledge is that 45% of Americans would vote for Satan himself if the GOP nominated him. Why would one of his minions do any worse?
Robert Sneddon
@CarolDuhart2: One of the biggest tourist events in Scotland is gearing up at the moment, the Edinburgh Festival which is held through August every year. The Military Tattoo held on the castle esplanade already has the new higher-capacity seating arena erected and ready for action, tickets sold out months ago. Clubs, cafes, church halls, telephone boxes, any and all sorts of premises are being prepped for performances and exhibitions. Hotels are doubling their rates and booked out solid any way, friends are being queried about spare rooms and floor space.
A lot of Europeans come to the Festival every year. The streets are awash with RHD cars with German, Dutch, French, Italian and other numberplates of foreign nationalities. The Festival doubles the city’s population and brings in at least a billion pounds of tourist cash, maybe more and a lot of that growth is due to the easy movement of EU citizens on vacation into an EU country.
I voted in the Scottish Independence referendum in 2014 to stay in Britain because I thought that Scotland outside Britain would have its EU membership put at risk due to uncertainties about its status after separation. I figured the EU Referendum to follow would be close but Britain would stay part of the EU. I was wrong. If there is another Independence referendum as is likely I will vote to leave the UK now that the EU has made it clear Scotland would be welcome to be part of something better.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@Baud:
USA! USA! USA!
Baud
@Schlemazel Khan: The liberal NYT also.
Cat48
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:
Thinks for letting me know. I am that person who has had cats for 30 yrs & am now cat less. I volunteered for a no-kill pet shelter for 10 years but they have consolidated and moved so it’s no longer easy to do. I think I may still be grieving. I just don’t know bc I can’t bring myself to do it yet.
SFAW
@Schlemazel Khan:
Well, of course. A report clears Hillary? Old news, nothing to see here, and the Committee obviously overlooked the Whitewater, Vince Foster, and Kim Philby connections.
SFAW
@OzarkHillbilly:
“Would”? Just because he’s used different names, it doesn’t mean he hasn’t already run.
Well, down-ticket races, at least.
Cermet
@OzarkHillbilly: Rather, 45% – all thug- would vote against Jesus Christ if he was here today since he’d say tax the rich and give to the poor. LOL – those thugs are real christians …
Hal
I saw a link to an article on Facebook that lead to a rwnj site claiming Hillary (stop me if you’ve heard this one before) had some UN official killed before he could testify. The whole of the next 4 months is going to be new versions of old scandals that I honestly think no one who isn’t a winger is going to care about.
bemused
Kittens are always awesome and irresistible.
I did not realize that Siberian Huskies and cats are not cohabitable.
satby
@SFAW: I’m another old fart, because that headline annoys me too. It’s another media thumb on the scale adding to the “well there’s smoke, so there must be a fire somewhere” negatives to try to hang on Clinton.
And ofc course if pinned down they’ll claim the email server is what they meant.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
I always thought it was odd that Sanders made a big deal about TPP, but not NAFTA or PNTR (China).
Was he incompetent not to see the inconsistency, or was he concerned Ben & Jerry wouldn’t be able to sell ice cream to 1.4 billion people, or did he see raising the price of IPhones by 50% would kill him with da yoot vote?.
Baud
@satby: Don’t forget all the wrongdoings we don’t even know about.
debbie
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
Almost sounding like a Tea Partier, you are.
JMG
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: It’s horse race bias in action. In June, the media can’t say one candidate’s a goner. 1. It isn’t really true. 2. Even if it were that candidate might stop buying ads for lack of money. Can’t have that. New poll today by Quinnipiac, a reputable outfit that has consistently shown the worst results for Clinton in both primary and general election matchups, has her up 42-40. This will become the One True Poll on cable news today.
rikyrah
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
Correction :
8 point Democratic lead=horse race
8 point Republican lead=the country is going in a new direction
MomSense
Kittens!! Kittens will grow up to be cats one day and I greatly miss having a cat in the house.
Baud
@JMG: Why can’t she close the deal? #2012Flashback
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@debbie: What I object to is rich socialists fools who say “Trump will bring the revolution immediately, if he gets in. Then things will really, you know, explode.”
It’s easy to shove the proletariat into a meat grinder from your gated equestrian ranch.
Cermet
@rikyrah: So very true. Media is bought and paid for by your greedy corporate masters.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@Cat48: Only you can know when the timing is right. I just wanted to mention that it’s something you can ask the rescues about when you’re ready.
@Everyone: J. K. Rowling has found one of the few delights resulting from the Brexit vote: a porn spoof and its wonderful Amazon review. (Vox article.)
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
In sports today, the Cubs tied the White Sox 8 to 0 at Wrigley Field.
debbie
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
Agreed, but that attitude’s been with us practically since the very beginning of politics and from every part of the political spectrum.
Kay
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
Clinton is up 5 in the NBC poll so they lead with this:
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: That is killer, much more boat than the Addie May. She was really a floating bar that barely made 5mph but, damn. it was fun.
SiubhanDuinne
@raven:
I was just there yesterday!
Baud
@Kay:
Haha. They are so pathetic.
Baud
@Kay: Why don’t they just poll journalists? It would be cheaper.
Matt McIrvin
*sigh* Julian Assange announcing he’s about to blow the lid off the crimes of Hillary Clinton. My Bernie dead-ender friends are getting excited.
Patricia Kayden
@Schlemazel Khan: And exposed Trey Gowdy to ridicule for his ridiculous hairstyle. For shame!
Tilda Swinton's Bald Cap
@Keith G: What does he say about the real enemies of America, the Republicans.
SFAW
@JMG:
Since when? Just because they get quoted, it doesn’t mean they’ve ever been accurate.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
Tuesday night’s speakers will be Meatloaf, Garry Busey, Geraldo, with Dennis Rodman giving the keynote address.
Patricia Kayden
@OzarkHillbilly: Hoping there is no “GOP Senate” by the time Clinton is sworn in as President so we won’t have to worry about them holding up SCOTUS confirmations.
Kay
@Baud:
Greenspan is back. They’re turning to him as an oracle again. It is literally impossible to discredit these people. This is the guy who appeared before Congress and admitted he was wrong about everything 6 years ago. It’s like it never happened.
Patricia Kayden
@Matt McIrvin: The word crime should be in quotes. Why didn’t Assange release this info before the primaries to presumably help Senator Sanders beat Secretary Clinton? Probably because he has nothing that we haven’t heard before. The witch hunt against the Clintons predates the 1990s and includes such gems as murder, rape and lesbianism.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@Matt McIrvin: did you see those heels she was wearing — it’s a crime, I tell ya!
OzarkHillbilly
@Matt McIrvin: The guy who is hiding out in an Ecuadorian embassy to evade facing his own crimes? That guy? Hillary ain’t perfect, but she’s never run away either.
Baud
@Kay: I didn’t realize he had left.
I’d like him to testify on Warren’s panel.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Kay,
Point out the lunacy
OzarkHillbilly
Bernie Sanders delegate Bill McKibbin;
via OTB
Too fvcking rich. Irony is dead.
rikyrah
@Kay:
You are on point.
But, if they were held accountable, there would be nobody on the GOP side to talk to.
seejanerun
@bemused: The shelter where I volunteer used to have a policy of not adopting out Huskies to homes that had a cat. Now they do ‘cat-tests’ on individual dogs, I know several Huskies that are fine with cats, but they do have a reputation for being predatory.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
I wish Hillary would come to each rally holding a glass of red wine and wearing a collarless Ceresi (photo)
Kay
@rikyrah:
Trump is up by about 15 among white working class (which means non-college) but more education means higher turnout so what he needs is a really good ground operation. This is a majority white working class county and the only high turnout precincts are higher income. The turnout in my precinct is double the turnout on the other side of town, where it’s mostly rental properties/lower income. They are exactly the voters Trump needs to win.
Matt McIrvin
@bemused: When I was young, a neighbor of ours was a cat-hoarder with a huge number of animals, and another neighbor had a beautiful Siberian husky who got loose one day. He immediately made a beeline to the cat lady’s house, got to the cats somehow and ate two kittens.
JMG
Hatred of Hillary Clinton is as much part of the national media mindset as fawning worship of wealth. Has been for over 20 years. More than the most fanatical Sanders devotee, they’d love to see Trump win because when shit blows up, it’s news! and people will watch and read their precious selves.
BTW, does NBC have a mandatory retirement age? Andrea Mitchell has been on my TV for as long as I can remember, and I’ll be 67 tomorrow.
Mai.naem.mobile
I am fine with the media calling the race close this time around. I am figuring it will help the Dems being overconfident and not showing up because “Hillary’s got in the bag anyway.” Maybe,just,maybe we can get enough of a turnout to get the House.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
Wow. Even loony Nugent thinks Trump is too much.
Hahahahahahahahha
This just in: General Custer states it is “very premature to conclude Little Big Horn campaign might be troubled”
OzarkHillbilly
@Patricia Kayden: I was speaking specifically of Scalia’s replacement (my bad wording, sorry) I think refusing to vote on any SC nominee from a new President Hillary is a bridge too far even for today’s GOP. Or at least I hope. Maybe naively. Oh forget about it, we’re talking about Mitch McConnell and crew.
Mai.naem.mobile
@Kay: Greenspan is back because Trump is scaring the shit out of Wall Street Repubs. Amazing since these white working class Trumpees would have been satisfied if the Wall Streeters had just given them some economic crumbs. Now they’ve got a full revolt and hating the black/gay/Mexican neighbor is not a good enough single reason to vote for a country club Republican anymore.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@JMG:
That’s a really good point.
If Trump was some vulgar congressman with short fingers the liberal media would despise him. But they think he’s rich so they worship him.
It’s like Bloomberg — he’s has the personality of wax fruit and his policy positions are as flavorless, but he’s filthy rich, so they worship bore.
bemused
@seejanerun:
We have two Samoyeds and two indoor cats. Samoyeds are a northern breed like Huskies but different personalities in general. When all the Sams we’ve had were puppies they wanted to chase the kitties but soon grew out of that tendency when they learned that cats don’t want to play like dogs.
gogol's wife
Love the kittehs!
aimai
@OzarkHillbilly: What an asshole. The dead enders are still at it over at Kos, though admittedly fewer of them. Bill McKibben was a classmate of mine. He’s always been insufferable.
The Ancient Randonneur
@aimai: A very accurate description of McKibben. He may well end up being the Ralph Nader of our generation.
gvg
I googled Siberian huskies and cats and accidently found out there is a Siberian cat breed that makes Tunch look small and hairless. Wow, walking footstools with hair/fur. Big fur.
Samoyeds were an all purpose breed used for hunting, sled pulling and herding. the herding instinct is very strong as my aunt’s friends found out. they had not known about that trait until their dog started getting out and herding the neighbors cow. they did some research and ended up taking her to herding trials as she clearly longed to do it.
bemused
@Matt McIrvin:
Long ago we had a Malemute and got some wild baby ducks to raise until we could release them to a lake. Our first born was just a toddler at the time and we thought that would be a fun activity for us and him. We’d only had the baby ducks for a short time, keeping them in the garage, when someone forgot to shut the side garage door and our Malemute got in. It was horrifying to discover just a few tiny duck bills left. That was the end of that experiment never to be repeated. We were just glad our son was too young to understand what happened to the ducks.
Emily68
@seaboogie: People may stay at the office after quitting time, but I don’t see any work at all getting done with those two little kitties in the office.
Paul in KY
My feeling is that if you can’t get your dog to understand that these other animals are also pets & are not to be fucked with, then maybe your dog is stupid or you don’t do a good job of making the dog understand.
The kittens are adorable.
Patricia Kayden
@Paul in KY: My Boxer and Boxer/mix live in a house with an African Grey parrot and two budgies. So far, they’ve figured out that while they can chase the squirrels, rabbits and birds outside, they are to leave the indoor birds alone. But I wouldn’t be overly harsh with dog owners who haven’t had the same experience since I assume some dogs have high prey drives and are prone to killing smaller animals.
Paul in KY
@Elizabelle: I’m not sure I would consider Asheville a ‘hipster hangout’. Chapel Hill, Beaufort, Atlantic Beach, etc. but not Asheville.
Patricia Kayden
@Mai.naem.mobile: Agreed. It would be suicidal for Democrats to get too smug now so early in the race. This election may be much closer than we can imagine. We can’t afford any Democratic voters assuming that since Secretary Clinton has it in the bag, we can sit it out in November. In any case, I’m not seeing a lot of polls with Secretary Clinton breaking above 50% which is a bit concerning.
Paul in KY
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Really Oswald got off 2 shots where he had to reload. the 1st shot sorta doesn’t count, as all he had to do was pull the trigger. It was, unfortunately, pretty good shooting, although he was sandbagged in pretty good & was shooting down, which makes for an easier shot.
Paul in KY
@Matt McIrvin: They will kill/eat other people’s cats. You should be able to make them understand not to eat your cats.
Cat48
@Paul in KY:
More like Hippies in Ashville, mostly older ones.
Kay
@Mai.naem.mobile:
What’s interesting to me is it isn’t true that “the elite” didn’t see this coming- some of them did. There have been warnings about this since Occupy Wall Street and they were coming from elite quarters. Larry Summers has been saying they have to get some trickle down going DOWN or there will be “unrest”.
I had this extremely local experience that makes me interested in white working class voters. We were trying to pass a school levy and failing so the “good government” GOP types here asked me to use the Dems 2012 lists to get white working class people w/children in public schools out to vote. It made me laugh because it was like “give the poor people to the Democrats- they know what to do with poor people” :)
It was really hard. We had to do 4 passes door to door and on election day we were still begging them to vote. They have the same problems with voting that all lower income have- they move a lot and they have issues with documentation. Republicans created most of those problems so I hope it comes back to bite them with Trump. It isn’t easy. A lot of them just don’t vote at all. We won though, and we won because of white working class, so it could be done in this county but it’s labor intensive. The Trumpster better hire some organizers.
Elizabelle
@Paul in KY: time to visit Asheville again. Trust me, many hipsters.
SiubhanDuinne
@JMG:
Mrs Greenspan will be 70 in October.
Edit: Happy birthday to you!
Pogonip
@gvg: My grandmother kept a corgi as a house pet. One day Corky kept nudging my feet and I realized she was trying to herd me. So I let her herd me all around the house and corral me in the bathroom. I’ve never seen a happier dog. After that, whenever I went to Grandma’s I made sure to be the herd animal du jour.
bemused
@gvg:
I’ve met a couple of Siberian cats and they are gorgeous and supposedly less allergenic than other cat breeds. There is a breeder or two in my area and maybe someday we will get one. We have two long hair kitties we got from a shelter that are great cats but two cats at a time is our limit.
Samoyeds have an interesting history not only herding reindeer with the far north Scandinavian peoples but also living indoors with their humans which may explain why Sams are so affectionate with and loyal to people.
Kay
Don’t get too excited but Clinton must be very happy with this “battleground” round-up:
We are so lucky the dopes rejected Kasich. He still polls better than any of them v Clinton.
Elizabelle
@Kay: I worry he will end up heading the ticket, still. Why pretend a lot of primary voters didn’t get their ire out of the way, and would be amenable to just plain voting Republican.
Plus, Kasich would get a tongue bath not seen for years from the MSM. Almost as appealing as Bloomberg. Worked for Lehman Brothers? But, but Hillary gave speeches on Wall Street.
Cat48
Political,Wire – Farleigh Dickenson poll Clinton 52% to Trump 21%. New Jersey
Sounds normal.
Emma
Ok, and in news from across the pond: You go, Ms. Sturgeon!
Paul in KY
@Cat48: Sorry, missed the hippies. My bad.
hedgehog mobile
Kittehs!
Aleta
oregonlive dotcom
scav
@Emma: it’s all still somewhat baffling, the organization, but watching the unravelling real-time does provide interesting clues. Rather like a disection where you don’t know the future long-term status of the patient.
Paul in KY
@Elizabelle: Next time I’m in Gatlinburg area, I’ll have to swing on by. Enjoy the drive over the mountain into NC.
Kay
@Elizabelle:
The GOP base hate him. They are enraged about Medicaid. You would not believe how many people are on Medicaid in this county. They literally have to resent their friends and family at this point. 90% of their grandchildren.
I’m thrilled. It’s like a big segment of the population got single payer and no one noticed until it was too late.
It’s the reason I backed Obamacare. My plan worked perfectly :)
Joel
@Patricia Kayden: I mean, that’s usually the case this early in the cycle; “undecideds” are usually in the low double digits in June, converging to about 2% by late October.
Elizabelle
@Kay: all three paragraphs are comforting.
Joel
@Kay: Never heard of this pollster before. I’ll take it with a grain of salt — are they internet based?
Botsplainer, Future Attendee is the Bernie Retirement Party in 2018
@aimai:
There’s some douchebag there (WBReeves or something like that) who keeps floating Sanders dead end bullshit whole flogging the “Hillary is evil” trope. He keeps demanding that people address his “when did you stop beating your wife” statements.
bemused
@Kay:
It’s so crazy. Basically, they have to either label their own near and dear as losers, too lazy to work moochers who choose to live the “high life” on assistance or start taking a good look at why hard working good people they know well really need Medicaid to survive.
Emma
@scav: That’s the perfect description. Another interesting situation development is based on the assumption that the EU will welcome Scotland with open arms. Might, but the other countries with regional separatists movements may not be inclined to friendliness. Spain is mired in the biggest political disaster in a decade and having the Catalans use the Scots as their precedent is not going to fly. So, they might want to delay or even veto the Scots proposal. Now, if the Scots go for federated membership first (which I still have to look into), which would mean NOT leaving the UK, it might be different.
Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class
@aimai:
I love me some WB Reeves diaries, at GOS
Case In Point
The butthurt is strong. Reeves is constantly flailing and demanding that the “did you stop beating your wife” sentiments he always posts.
#FucktheBern2018 #senatorhowarddean #senatoralgiordano #inmatejanesanders #sadgrumpyoldmaneatstapiocaaloneatthecheapmedicaidnursinghome
Shell
Had some much needed rain here in NJ, and after a few very sticky days it looks like its gonna clear up into some lovely summer weather. So, thats about my good news.
Miss Bianca
@Elizabelle: there is a screen on that window, believe it or not, but point taken!
Shell
And Wednesday night will feature the jazz stylings of Kelsey Grammer.
Miss Bianca
@seaboogie: you got that right…I come in on the weekends to make sure they have their food and water! And their meds! I can’t quite my job now – I have *cats* to take care of! : )
khead
Oh my. Love the adorable kittehs!
Miss Bianca
And thank you, Anne Laurie, for posting the kitten photos! Was up late tackling server problems – stupid software system that we use to manage our online catalog builds up these huge caches of files – a bug/feature that was unbeknownst to me – and even the act of *deleting* this cache is using up almost all the available memory, so the system keeps crashing. Joy! Arrgh! They don’t pay me enough to deal with this shite! But…but…KITTIES, awww…makes everything worthwhile!
D58826
Over on WAPO is an opinion piece that has to take the cake for male (and I presume white) privilege. He will vote for trump[ because he wants to go back to the good old days. Such as a woman’s place is in the home, Jews need not apply and African Americans hanging from trees.
He complains about some of the silly things today’s college students complain about, such as safe spaces. He says he is a leading edge baby boomer but must have overlooked the silly things that the student rebels of the 60’s demanded. The student rebels at some of our most prestigious and expensive colleges demanding that the establishment be destroyed while they cashed daddy’s tuition check.
Or the ‘participation’ trophy for just showing up. Seems that was an invention of the baby boomers not something that existed in the good old days.
He admits that Trump might blow up the world but anything is better than Hillary. (sigh)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-hate-donald-trump-but-he-might-get-my-vote/2016/06/28/ddeee5f8-398d-11e6-9ccd-d6005beac8b3_story.html
D58826
@Keith G: same old same old.
link for those who want to read it
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/opinion/campaign-stops/bernie-sanders-democrats-need-to-wake-up.html?ref=opinion&_r=0
D58826
help[ 2 comments in moderation
D58826
@JMG: I can remember when she was a cub reporter at the all news radio station KYW in Philly in the mid 60’s.
Miss Bianca
@CarolDuhart2: The politics of the situation are messy, and an incredible cock-up on the part of David Cameron et al. I have an English correspondent who is quite a passionate Leaver – but he is an older gentleman (80 +) and a classic Little Englander, despite being highly educated and, one presumes, with a slightly broader knowledge of the world than what you think of in your average ‘Leave’ voter. We’ve been writing back and forth. If he gives me permission, I may pass on one or two of his comments – in fact, he sent me an email this morning on the subject which I have yet to unpack fully, but which I am fairly sure will rile up my digestion some – our positions on the topic are so diametrically opposed!
Matt McIrvin
@Kay: Quinnipiac just put out a national poll that has Clinton only 2 points ahead, so I assume that’s going to get most of the publicity.
Poopyman
That was hard to parse, but I LOLed when I managed it.
Paul in KY
@D58826: I personally don’t want to waste my time reading some POS yapping about stupid shit like that. I’m sure some people here do want to read it, if only to laugh at him/her.
Miss Bianca
@satby: It’s on the list of stuff to do – they are less than eight weeks old at this point. We’ll get rid of their ringworm first!
@Robert Sneddon: I imagine a lot of Scots are feeling shafted by this Brexit decision, particularly if they voted against independence on the grounds that it might threaten EU membership.
Poopyman
@Matt McIrvin: Oh hell yeah. It’s big on the CNN site this AM.
D58826
@Paul in KY: Actually it is a fairly good summary of why people are angry. Then he goes off on the usual tangent that only HE can save the world and Hillary has to beg for his limp barely noticeable nod of approval.
Miss Bianca
@bemused: Very high prey drive. Cats, bunnies, chickens, chipmunks, you name it…it’s the one drawback to their general awesomeness, if you happen to like small critters!
Kay
@D58826:
Yes, because everything was incredibly rigorous and difficult in 1970. There are people who went to school in the 1990’s who tell me this – what in the hell are they talking about? They were walking 5 miles to school? School was more difficult in 1996 than it is now? What?
It’s more competitive for young people now in my experience. It’s more difficult for them to get and stay ahead. This whole narrative about how they’re spoiled pisses me off. Compared to what? The hard working middle aged cohort? How was that more “merit-based”?
D58826
@Kay:
Uphill both ways and in snow drifts up to the elbows in May. Hard times.
LAO
@Miss Bianca: Although I am not a cat person, very cute kittens Miss B.
Paul in KY
@Kay: This is probably a ‘get off my lawn’ moment, but it appears to this ole coot that all the intertube help school kids can use now make some of their stuff ‘easier’ than it was back in the days of going to the library, etc.
Miss Bianca
@Paul in KY: I did have one rescue Husky who could be trusted with my cat, as well as one who was raised with her from a puppy and so learned to be “OK” with mine – but almost ate a kitten I adopted as a stray – and both of them killed a stray cat who wandered into our yard. So, that being the case, I decided against mixing for a while. My current Siberian is certainly not allowed in the office till the kitties have grown up and have the run of the whole store!
Cat48
@D58826:
I’m a boomer. I don’t remember everyone getting a trophy. That may have originated in team sports for toddlers or something.
D58826
@Kay:
I agree. I see what my early 30 something nieces have to deal with. Sure they probably have more gizmo’s than we did as kids but that’s about it. It took 5 years and a master’s degree before the youngest had a permanent job with benefits. The middle niece and her hubby live in a rental, with a buddy of the hubby, to make the rent. The oldest has a good job now but all struggled more than my wife and I did at that stage of our life. Funny thing is my BIL/sister are rockrib anti government low tax conservatives. They are opposed to that socialist Hillary. And each month they cash their military pension checks. Chuck hasn’t worked in years. His last job was at the local school district. They hate Obamacare but have no problem with the VA and Tricare (600.00 per year per person) or when the youngest was on their plan till she was 26.. Neither one has worked a day that wasn’t either on the government payroll or government subsidized (medicare/medicaid in the nursing home). Two of the three nieces work for the government and Chuck’s sister and BIL are retired military living in that h+ll hole San Diego.
BUT socialism!!!!!!!!!!!!
bemused
@Miss Bianca:
Most dogs do have that instinct. Twice I’ve seen our dogs kill a garter snake.
Elizabelle
@Matt McIrvin: made the NY Times website front page. Quel surprise.
Cat48
Mrs, Greenspan said she was 8pts ahead nationally. That was yesterday in the Survey Monkey poll. That was a fast fall for Hillz :)
Paul in KY
@Miss Bianca: OK, fair enough. You have much more experience with that dog breed that I do. Erring on side of caution is the smart thing to do.
Matt McIrvin
@Kay: I’m pretty sure the complaint about participation trophies and “self-esteem culture” was a popular form of bellyaching in the 1990s.
I was in kiddie T-ball in the 1970s and we all got trophies, but it was because we were the local league champions–we had about two kids on the team who actually knew how to throw and catch and which direction to run the bases, and the other teams all had zero, so we were nearly undefeated.
bemused
@D58826:
Ah but everyone knows they earned and deserve their government checks. It’s evil government socialism for everyone else. The mind reels.
Matt McIrvin
@Cat48: The news media will never stop concocting stories based on the shocking difference between Company X’s poll that came out a couple of days ago and Company Y’s today, regardless of their house effects, the usual range of variations, etc. They vaguely know what a margin of error is, but not what it actually means (it’s usually treated as the infallible boundary between a real lead and a “statistical tie”).
EBT
@Elizabelle: Asheville never voted for him or it to begin with though.
D58826
@Matt McIrvin: Heck I got a trophy in the late 1950’s in little league. In 3 years I had one hit, and 79 strikeouts after 80 times at bat. The boomers didn’t invent the participation trophy
@bemused: I don’t begrudge the pensions. They were 20 year military and they are the rules. I just begrudge the complaining about socialism and tax and spend democrats (unless if is for the L**** family.) Or the complaining about the streets not being plowed after voting to cut the highway budget.
Cat48
I wish we did raise enough tax revenue that we could have a working government again. A lot of the agencies are severely underfunded.
D58826
@Matt McIrvin: Watched my 9 year old niece’s softball team pull of a triple play. No one realized it at first, esp. the players
bemused
@D58826:
Oh I agree about their pensions. They just don’t believe there is any good reason for other government works that don’t directly affect them and they want all the benefits of the ones that do without paying taxes. They fantasize that good government can be run on the dirt cheap.
SFAW
@Patricia Kayden:
How many lesbians did she rape and murder in Benghazi, and then dragged their bodies to Fort Marcy Park? Or is that a different rumor?
catclub
@OzarkHillbilly: Remember in 2009 when the GOP hacks cheered that Chicago did not get it? In order only to humiliate ( in their small minds) Barack Obama.
I was glad the US did not get it because it is a waste of taxpayer money.
catclub
@SFAW: There was a super-duper-sonic plane at Mena airport, fueled and ready to go and save the brave boys at Benghazi, but she refused to send it.
Tom
@seaboogie: Does it count if I work from home? I often find my littlest cat curled up in my office chair.
catclub
@JMG:
so like, a week?
I kid.
Matt McIrvin
@catclub: Was it that hypersonic spaceplane that CERN owns? Or is Dan Brown lying to me?
CONGRATULATIONS!
@Paul in KY: It’s called “prey drive” and in some dogs it simply can’t be overcome. My current dog doesn’t have it. My last one did but it could be and was redirected. Sometimes that does not work. It can sometimes extend to children and then you have a real problem on your hands. One you didn’t cause…but a real problem.
The only surefire cure is to shoot the dog. Which I am not advocating, by the way, but that’s how it ends up working out sometimes.
daves09
CNN had both the 8% and 2% polls featured this morning. This afternoon only the 2% remains-go figure.
If HRC were leading by 20 Mitchell would say she’s leading but, Benghazi-I mean emails, no I mean server, blue dress, blue dress, blue dress.
Tom
@Cat48: I don’t miss mayflies at all. They are monsters from another world.
My dad got a sailboat and he kept it in Mackinaw City (northern tip of Michigan) during the summer. Almost every morning, we’d get up and everything (the boat, the dock, etc.) was covered in mayflies. Not pleasant if you’re used to going barefoot during the summer.
Tom
@OzarkHillbilly: To be fair, Satan has a proven record of competent administration.
Paul in KY
@CONGRATULATIONS!: All I’m saying is the dog should be able to be trained to leave your/his cats alone. Might kill everyone elses, but should be able to figure out that these ones are verboten.
If the dog can’t be made to understand that, then maybe its just a stupid dog. Dogs/cats have same range of intellect as people, IMO.
Lydia L. Pineault
Very cute kitties! Nice that you can enjoy them at work! And one must assume they are very much loved and well behaved!? Ha, ha!