Valued commenter Immanentize shared a couple of tomato pie recipes with me the other day in response to my recent Attack of the Killer Tomatoes thread. Here’s the pie:
I trust it will taste as good as it looks and smells.
Speaking of trolls, Combover Caligula was in Tampa today (my closest media market). He said something that made my blood run cold even on this very hot day:
“I’ll be here so much, I’ll be in Florida, I’ll be with you so much over the next five months that you’re going to say, ‘Please keep him the hell out of Florida. He’s driving us crazy.’”
That clown car done left the big top parking lot a long time ago, Hair Furor.
But if there’s any justice, things should get more heated for Deadbeat Donald since a USA Today piece exposed him as a serial stiffer of working folks. Here’s a NY Mag summary:
USA Today has posted an explosive investigative story about what appears to be a deep aversion presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump has to paying his bills. The short version: USA Today claims that, based on what looks like some rather impressive reporting, Trump has for decades looked for just about any excuse he could find to stiff everyone from plumbers to — can’t make this up — lawyers who represented him in non-payment lawsuits.
The longer version is something of a bloodbath for Trump: “At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings reviewed by the USA TODAY NETWORK, document people who have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work,” writes USA Today’s Steve Reilly. “Among them: a dishwasher in Florida. A glass company in New Jersey. A carpet company. A plumber. Painters. Forty-eight waiters. Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at his resorts and clubs, coast to coast. Real estate brokers who sold his properties. And, ironically, several law firms that once represented him in these suits and others.”
The striking thing about Reilly’s article is that there’s no standard script for why a given person or company didn’t get paid in full by Trump — he seemed to withhold payment rather capriciously. While Trump would often claim shoddy work as his reason for not ponying up, Reilly presents pretty overwhelming evidence that in many, if not most, of the cases, this was not a credible claim.
This tendency to screw people seems in line with Fuckface von Clownstick’s general philosophy of grift, including the Scam U thing. I’m guessing a not-insignificant percentage of the tradespeople and service providers The Cheato fucked over outside of the Scam U context might be willing to tell their tale of woe in an ad.
pseudonymous in nc
USA Today: Trump stiffed the tradespeople he hired to do work
WSJ: Trump stiffed his suppliers and professional service providers
NYT: Trump stiffed investors in his Atlantic City cas1nos while he cashed out
That’s a trifecta.
Major Major Major Major
Isn’t this part of his plan? “China will take ten cents on the dollar and like it” or some such?
redshirt
Not paying people will only endear him to his followers, since they too have been “screwed” by shady pavers, roofers, and other Mexicans.
Jeff Spender
Got into an argument today that epitomized the tendency of some white progressives to throw minorities and their concerns and issues under the bus when things don’t break their way.
Sigh. I have suffered so many rude awakenings by people I thought were better than that.
redshirt
So what’s going on in that tomato pie, exactly? I’m intrigued. Is it like a pizza pie?
Villago Delenda Est
@Major Major Major Major: The Chinese have nukes.
This will not end well.
Baud
@Jeff Spender: In my experience, people are not better than that.
MattF
So, yeah, journalism. Of all things.
hovercraft
Betty Cracker
@redshirt: I put a link to the recipes in the top line in the OP. Haven’t tried it yet, but I imagine it’ll be somewhat pizza-like!
Major Major Major Major
@Villago Delenda Est: And an economy predicated to a significant degree on selling us shit. But isn’t that basically something he literally said?? Not a direct quote
Hal
I’m starting to get irritated by the number of “I’m a feminist, but I’m not voting for Hillary” posts I’m seeing on social media. If you don’t want to vote for Hillary, fucking don’t, no one is stopping you, but it seems to me to be completely anti-feminist to go out of your way to make sure every knows that just because you’re a woman, you’re not voting for Hillary.
What is sexist (in my male opinion) is assuming women are voting for Hillary Clinton because she is a woman, so why play into that bullshit trope?
Baud
@Hal: My guess. Because they aren’t feminists.
hellslittlestangel
I wish the press would go easy on Little Gloves — until he’s actually nominated.
Villago Delenda Est
@Hal: This is similar to the old “I’m a Democrat, but…” thing that you see on the Intertubes all the time. The reality is they are lying, and they’re assholes.
sm*t cl*de
I’m not seeing the irony. The law firms fought to establish the legal principle that Trump doesn’t have to pay creditors or fulfill contracts if he is in any way disinclined. Did they really expect to get paid?
grrljock
My fave yet. Well done!
Renie
I want them to go after him on releasing his tax returns. I’m sure there’s some highly interesting facts in there.
rikyrah
This is comedy gold.
Trump on Jeb endorsement: ‘Who the hell cares?’
June 11, 2106, 12:56 pm
Donald Trump on Saturday went after one of his favorite targets, tearing into Jeb Bush in his home state of Florida.
During a rally in Tampa, Fla. Trump mocked the former Florida governor’s failed presidential run.
Trump noted Bush’s low polling throughout the contest, which placed him at the edge of the stage at Republican debates.
“I was center stage at every debate,” Trump said.
Trump disparaged former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush on his home turf, calling him “Jebba” and dismissing his one-time primary rival’s political clout.
“You know the way guys were falling off the ends? I said ‘Jeb, you’re not gonna be here much longer, you’re pretty far down there Jeb-ah. You’re not going to be here much longer, Jeb. You gotta get tougher, Jeb.’ ”
“I don’t think he’s going to endorse me, do you folks?” Trump asked the crowd, before dismissively adding: “Who the hell cares?”
Bush has said he will not vote for Trump in November.
pseudonymous in nc
In moderation, but there’s now a trifecta: USA Today covered the blue-collar tradespeople, WSJ the white-collar suppliers and professional services, and the NYT just dumped an astonishing piece on his Atlantic City word-that-rhymes-with-gas-eno operations showing how he stiffed his bankers and investors, offloading debts onto them while cashing out any profits.
He’s an affinity fraudster. If you’re bedazzled in by the name and the lifestyle, you’ll get the chance to work for him or invest in his schemes, then get stiffed. His entire campaign is the same.
redshirt
@Betty Cracker: Missed that. Thanks.
Sounds like pizza. Except with Mayo.
sm*t cl*de
@pseudonymous in nc:
Trump has already explained that his extensive experience in using legal loopholes to defraud customers and creditors shows that he is the only politician who can be trusted to close those loopholes.
trollhattan
@Hal:
I’m convinced they’ve bullshit, to the level many are probably from GOP boilerrooms. Some number of the special butterflies exist, but not enough to have even a microscopic impact come November.
Jeff Spender
@Baud: He said we survived Bush, we’ll survive Trump.
To which I replied, who is this we? I know several people who didn’t.
And his response boiled down to dismissing the harm that Trump could do.
I don’t even know anymore.
rikyrah
Furious GOP donors stew over Trump
At an exclusive Park City retreat, some of the Republican Party’s top financiers lashed out at their nominee.
By ALEX ISENSTADT 06/11/16 03:01 PM EDT
PARK CITY, Utah — Donald Trump is trying to win over a skeptical Republican donor class, but they’ve closed their wallets — and they’re angry.
On Friday afternoon, at an exclusive Republican donor retreat here hosted by Mitt Romney, frustration boiled over. During an off-the-record question-and-answer session with House Speaker Paul Ryan, Meg Whitman, the billionaire Hewlett Packard chief executive officer, confronted the speaker over his endorsement of Trump. Whitman, a major GOP giver who ran for California governor in 2010, compared Trump to historical demagogues like Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini and wanted to know how the speaker could get behind him.
At another discussion session during the day, which featured top Romney alumni Stuart Stevens and Matt Rhoades, Ana Navarro, a Republican contributor and ubiquitous cable news personality, called Trump a “racist” and a “vulgarian and a pig who has made disgusting comments about women for years.” (Neither Whitman nor Navarro would comment.)
Even Ryan, who has endorsed Trump despite criticizing his behavior, joked during his presentation on Friday that in a recent conversation with magician David Copperfield, he said that he wished he could make himself disappear.
nutella
So his self-funded campaign will expose every possible vendor to his standard bill-paying methods, i.e., not paying. Surely that means that there will be no possible vendors for any campaign expenses? Or that the few vendors willing to risk it require all bills to be paid in cash in advance?
Baud
@Jeff Spender:
That harm will mostly fall on other people. The right kind of people will get good paying union jobs constructing and maintaining Trump’s concentration camps.
Adam L Silverman
@Major Major Major Major: No, its Americans will take 10 cents on the dollar and like it. The vast majority, around 70%, of US debt is held by Americans. Of the remainder the Saudis and the Gulf states own about 11-15% in their sovereign wealth funds, we just learned a couple of weeks ago because of a FOIA request that the Saudis also hold about $200 billion above and beyond that as a result of a secret deal that the Nixon Administration cut with them to ease the economic pain from the 1973 oil embargo, and China owns about 11-14%. So the vast majority of the people that would get hurt with a Trump haircut would be Americans.
Here’s the link to the piece on the Nixon and the Saudis. And as much work as I do on this stuff, I had no idea this had even happened!
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-05-30/the-untold-story-behind-saudi-arabia-s-41-year-u-s-debt-secret
Mai.naem.mobile
I was listening to a talkshow yesterday and a caller mentioned that Trump entered the race a day before he had to respond to the Trump University lawsuit. She was wondering if this was a massive distraction from a big losing lawsuit.
Chyron HR
Really digging your Chicago-style pizza. Here’s one I had the other day.
Felonius Monk
Is der TrumpenFarter now officially know as The Orange Cheato?
Adam L Silverman
@hovercraft: She didn’t buy it, someone who dislikes Trump and likes her did and then set it to redirect to her website:
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/trump-hater-buys-pocahontas-com-and-it-takes-you-to-elizabeth-warrens-donation-page/
Jeff Spender
@Felonius Monk: The Orange Cheato is redundant. I prefer the Cheato Dust Flop-Sweat, aka Sir Stay-Puft.
nutella
@Adam L Silverman:
Hey Adam! Did I see a comment from you recently that the Cherokee Nation had checked Warren’s background and determined that she is 1/28 Cherokee? Which would be enough to be eligible to join the tribe. I can’t find any links among the twenty tons of Pocahontas snark on Google. Can you provide a link for this?
Baud
@Mai.naem.mobile: Doesn’t really matter why he decided to run. No one forced the Republican primary voter to select him.
raven
@shomi: It’s a slur, some black folks like the N word but it’s still a slur.
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman: yeah, I know. Japan has a bit too. Just saying what Trump was saying. Most of the people who buy into his crap would never even guess that “paying back the national debt on the cheap” would primarily just destroy social security (in addition to the global economy).
SiubhanDuinne
@pseudonymous in nc:
Headline writers have a stiffy.
schrodinger's cat
@Jeff Spender: Goes to prove that its not just Trumpeters who are stupid.
Major Major Major Major
@raven: it’s not a slur though. He thinks he’s making fun of her for pretending to be Native American. (I am fully aware that she didn’t.) That makes *her* the real racist.
schrodinger's cat
@Major Major Major Major: Most of the US debt is owned by We the People.
FlyingToaster (Tablet)
@shomi: No single outlet could cover them all, but at Balloon Juice we can each pick an Orange Cheato scam and run with it.
How much does he pay the undocumented aliens who work at his hotels/casInos/condo towers? Who will work there once he deports them?
ETA screwed up the forbidden word. FYWP
gene108
@Major Major Major Major:
25% of our debt is intra-government borrowing, like the Social Security Trustfund and Medicare Trustfund.
You’d pretty much destroy the Federal government, if you forced all debt holders to take haircut on our debt.
jl
Is there a tomato pie recipe with more tomato and less cheese?
I like both 1 and 2, but sometimes would like a purer tomato experience.
And: ‘Hair Furor’, I like that. thanks. I’ll remember to use that one.
MomSense
@Jeff Spender:
I have two 20 something kids who have been trying to deal with their Bernista friends. I think both of them are ready to suspend all of their social media accounts and self deport until November.
Villago Delenda Est
@sm*t cl*de: Well, if he has adult supervision, as Joseph Kennedy had as head of the SEC. But Kennedy had adult supervision. Drumpf will not allow anyone to supervise him or be the boss of him.
schrodinger's cat
@Baud: I don’t think Trump likes to pay his workers either.
SiubhanDuinne
@gene108:
I’m not sure Donald is smart enough to have worked that out, but I’m certain there are plenty of drown-it-in-a-bathtub Republicans who have not only figured it out but think it’s a swell idea.
Baud
@schrodinger’s cat: Once they start the work, I’m not sure they’ll care.
Adam L Silverman
@nutella: I got it slightly mangled. She is 1/32nd, which is the same as the current Chief, Bill John Baker. His statement on her is quoted below and can be seen in the video at the Youtube link below the quote.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/donald-trump-swings-in-all-directions-as-he-tries-to-fight-back-against-elizabeth-warren/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCLHNYC6piY
schrodinger's cat
@SiubhanDuinne: Their own investments will tank too. This move would be beyond stupid.
Villago Delenda Est
@schrodinger’s cat: The problem is the MBA mentality (current fiscal quarter numbers only) has taken hold, and anything beyond that is ignored.
redshirt
@schrodinger’s cat: Yeah but as long as Liberals feel the pain…..
Jeff Spender
@MomSense: He’s having some kind of fit now and posting cutesy cat memes all over his facebook.
This is why I don’t call myself a progressive and think Jill Stein is the David Avocado Wolfe of politics.
Betty Cracker
@MomSense: My 17-year-old spent hours last night arguing with baby dude-bros in her peer group who are threatening to cast their first vote for Trump as an act of political arson. Oh well. They are young and hot-headed. There’s hope for them yet.
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
Only if Trump actually loses.
redshirt
@Betty Cracker: I’d think there’s little besides a girl who could get through to a juvenile DudeBro. Logic ain’t gonna work.
MomSense
@redshirt:
If you eat potatoes, I have a great summer recipe. Grease a shallow baking pan with olive oil, place a layer of thinly sliced potatoes, season with salt, pepper, and fresh basil (chiffonade works best). Add a layer of thinly sliced zucchini drizzled with olive oil, salt, pepper and basil, then add a layer of sliced tomatoes drizzled with olive oil, salt, pepper, and fresh basil. Parmesan/Romano grated on the top is optional. I usually don’t, I also go very easy on the salt.
Bake at 400 until potatoes are tender.
If you are adding cheese, I would wait to add it until about 10-15 minutes into the baking time.
Baud
@redshirt: Are you suggesting a sex-for-votes initiative?
Cat48
Pie looks good. The Miami Herald had an article today entitled roughly, “Trump Buys an Attorney General”, about him & Bondi’s relationship. No newspaper was safe for Team Trump today.
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
It seems to me that The Donald could and would attack the Senator Professor no matter what she claimed about her heritage. Since she accurately acknowledged this bit (1/32nd, FFS) of her ancestry, he slams her for trying to claim that she is Native American in order to take advantage (of, presumably, “real Americans”); but you know and I know that if she’d never said a word about it and someone publicized that one of her great-great-great-grandparents was Cherokee, Trump would attack her for trying to hide her ethnicity or something. (“What’s she so ashamed of?? Sad!!”)
Jeffro
@Cat48:
Amazing, isn’t it? If this was happening to the Dem candidate -just. this. one. issue. – the election would already be declared over. Ah well.
Hey, here’s some major-league hitting from the HRC campaign: take THAT, Orange Cheat-O!
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-university-clinton-campaign
redshirt
@Baud: No, but now that you say it, why not? I meant that for Juvenile DudeBros there’s next to nothing that can get into their heads except peer group girls. So if you had a girl of the same age give a pro-Clinton message to them, they might be swayed. Otherwise, good luck.
MomSense
@Jeff Spender: @Betty Cracker:
One of my kids apparently posted a status that was something like day ____ and still no indictment. About 500 comments later he was ready to crush his laptop. I think he even made up the number of days.
hovercraft
@Adam L Silverman:
Thanks, my mistake.
schrodinger's cat
@Villago Delenda Est: I don’t see how messing with the full faith and credit of the United States is good even for one quarter?
nutella
@Adam L Silverman:
Thanks!
Why was I surprised that a nasty and obviously ridiculously overblown story about a Democrat was debunked by the best authority on the topic 4 YEARS AGO and yet right-wingers are still slinging the lie today?
Same as the Hillary Honduras coup story although that particular lie seems to be pushed by people claiming to be lefties.
redshirt
@MomSense: Sounds delicious! But I’ve stopped eating potatoes too, so, alas.
I’m not even sure what I eat anymore. Eggs and cheese, without doubt. Jalapenos too. Other than that…
RSA
@redshirt: I first thought it was a quiche, but no eggs. Either way it looks good.
Betty Cracker
@redshirt: Interestingly, she doesn’t know any girls who were Sanders supporters who are now threatening to vote for Trump — not a single one.
hovercraft
@gene108:
I believe that’s a feature not a bug.
eclare
@efgoldman: How was the concert?
redshirt
@Betty Cracker: Not surprised. There’s definitely a testosterone factor with Trump, and Juvenile DudeBros are highly susceptible to the influence.
Baud
@Betty Cracker: Girls are smart. I’d rather have the girls than the boys as our voters if I had to choose.
Steeplejack
@nutella:
I’m sure there are vendors who are in the same state of denial about Trump as his voters. “Oh, that’s just the media lying about him!” “He’ll pay me because I’ll do a good job!”
SiubhanDuinne
@shomi:
Reminds me somehow of 2008 when right-wingers were sarcastically calling the Dem nominee “Barack Hussein Obama,” and instead of running from it, tens of thousands of bloggers and FaceBookers and commenters began using “Hussein” as a middle nym. Pretty sure DougJ and John did it here, pretty sure I was SiubhanHusseinDuinne for a while — grab it, turn it around, and throw it back in the haters’ faces. That’s what I see happening with Pocahontas now.
redshirt
@schrodinger’s cat: Logically there is no way it makes sense. But if you measure quarterly results in “Outrage” and “Sticking it to the Libtards”, then you can see how wrecking the economy might be good for quarterly results.
amk
And people are surprised the deadbeat said that he will stiff on the US debt?
Mnemosyne
The more I think about this asshole judge in George refusing to let a transgender man change his name, the more pissed off I get. Transgender people have been changing their names for at least 40 years — since before Ronald Fucking Reagan was president, for fuck’s sake — and now suddenly this asshole decides to change 40 years of precedent.
Fuck him, the horse he rode in on, and the blacksmith who shoed the horse.
Felonius Monk
Forget 5 months, I’m sure there are a significant number of Floridians who are saying that right now.
MomSense
@redshirt:
At least you can have omelettes. A good omelette is one of my favorite things.
SiubhanDuinne
@schrodinger’s cat:
But we’re talking about Republicans here.
amk
@SiubhanDuinne: Just like they did with #obamacare. Stupid nitwits of idiotic fools.
Gin & Tonic
@Steeplejack: I recall a long ago story about some candidate who was in NH, running late to be somewhere, sat down in a helicopter and the pilot said “I’ll take off as soon as I get paid. In cash.” They’ve seen their share of candidates up there.
redshirt
My father has a modest condo about 1 mile down the road from Trump’s main Florida stronghold. It was surreal to be absent mindedly driving back from golf and run into the Donald’s security detail.
redshirt
@MomSense: Heh. So many omelettes.
Tokyokie
I’m not sure what one should call somebody who inherited several hundred million dollars and developed a business plan that consisted in large part of walking away from contracts and daring the schmucks without elite legal talent on retainer to sue him. Fraudulent comes to mind, as does abuse of process. And, of course, there’s sociopathic asshole. But business genius doesn’t make the list.
ThresherK
@MomSense: Sounds sorta…Frenchified. Can’t you just enjoy a good American omelet?
hovercraft
@shomi:
Talk radio and one of the Boston tabloids harped on it during Scott Brown’s re-elect, and his fans followed her around doing tomahawk chops. And you see how well that worked. Just because it doesn’t make sense to non crazy people doesn’t mean they think it’ll hurt her somehow.
MomSense
@ThresherK:
Freedom omelettes!
Tokyokie
@shomi: As a descendant of Rebecca Rolfe (aka Pocahontas), I find it very weird to have a Disney cartoon princess as a forebear. (It also means I’m an in-law of the odious Woody Wilson. Ugh.) But as I am, like Elizabeth Warren, a native of Oklahoma, I’m tickled that a loudmouth shithead thinks he’s slurring her by invoking my ancestor’s name.
Betsy
I, personally, will never again refer to the Donald as anything but “Hair Furor.”
schrodinger's cat
@MomSense: Did your friend like Queen?
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
Trump apparently hasn’t heard the expression – If you’re explaining, you’re losing.
Twitter:
“The story’s false! I pay my bills except when I don’t!!1”
Cheers,
Scott.
redshirt
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: That’s beautiful.
I hope it ends up being Twitter that takes Trump down.
Mnemosyne
@Adam L Silverman:
IIRC, the initial claim by Brown was that Warren faked having Native American heritage in order to get affirmative action consideration, and when it turned out she was telling the truth, they then switched the attack to just plain attacking affirmative action, which really only works on Republicans. Looks like Trump is circling back to the initial, already debunked claim:
Baud
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:
Too bad Republicans don’t use the same standard when voting.
Jeff Spender
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: Why would you even draw attention to it with a 140 character rebuttal?
Seriously?
MomSense
@schrodinger’s cat:
I’m hoping we can watch tomorrow when I visit. She has been really sick from the chemo but she switched her care to Dana Farber and they seem to be managing it better for her.
redshirt
@Jeff Spender: You can’t let lies go unchallenged.
Iowa Old Lady
@Mnemosyne: Warren didn’t even go to Harvard. She taught there. Not that any of this matters. As an attack, it just sounds juvenile and demented to most people.
Jeff Spender
@redshirt: What I mean is why is Trump even bringing it up if that’s his only response? It just perpetuates it and actually probably harms him in the long run.
Gin & Tonic
@Adam L Silverman: That domain has been registered for over 20 years, so it’s not like somebody woke up to the possibilities this week. Interestingly, the name of the registrant is masked, but the address is in Toronto. Perhaps coincidence, but on Mowat Ave.
SiubhanDuinne
@efgoldman:
How was the musical day at Faneuil (sp?) Hall? Did any Juicers show up?
ETA: oops, sorry, I didn’t see that eclare asked the same question.
Mnemosyne
@schrodinger’s cat:
Did you say that “Queen” is on Netflix right now, or I am misremembering? We also have Amazon Prime, if it’s on there.
SiubhanDuinne
@amk:
Yup, exactly the same principle at work.
schrodinger's cat
@MomSense: I know you like dance videos, this is from Anybody Can Dance. It had no big names. Prabhudeva and Ganesha Acharya two RL choreographers play themselves along with a cast of virtual unknowns, along with one of the finalists from So you think You can dance. It was directed by Remo D’souza who choreographed Pinga from Bajirao Mastani.
schrodinger's cat
@Mnemosyne: I streamed it from Google Play.
SiubhanDuinne
@efgoldman:
You should report it to John*. He can do a “Fuck all y’all fuckers” front page on your behalf.
*(All caps email, natch.)
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
@rikyrah:
Oh, please. Where the fuck have these women been all these years while Republicans were pushing anti-abortion bullshit, allowing pharmacists to refuse to fill birth control prescriptions, going on and on about rape — ah, fuck it, why bother.
They built this. Fuck them.
schrodinger's cat
@Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA: He is GOP’s monster they constructed him, and he is going to destroy them.
Yutsano
@MomSense: This is essentially a cheater ratatouille which can be time consuming. Throw in some garlic and yours would be really close!
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: consistency, small minds, hobgoblins…
redshirt
@Jeff Spender: Oh, from Trump’s side.
He’s a narcissist and will respond to every personal challenge.
That’s why I love the idea mentioned by someone else to have Warren, Pelosi, Reid, Biden, Obama, Mrs. Obama be the response team for Clinton. Let Warren and Pelosi and Reid attack. Let Biden concern troll. Let Barack bring the full weight of the office, and Michelle brings it as the last First Lady in a while.
Hillary can stay above it. Looking Presidential.
Adam L Silverman
@hovercraft: No worries.
Adam L Silverman
@nutella: You’re welcome.
Mnemosyne
@schrodinger’s cat:
Looks like I can rent it from Amazon for $3.99, but I can’t remember my Netflix password right now. That happens to me a lot. :-(
srv
Trump knows he has a lot of states, so Florida, Ohio and such will be getting a lot of attention.
As for the lawsuits, when you’re rich and successful, everyone will try to shake you down. Need I bring up all the lawsuits against Soros?
redshirt
@srv: I would like you to know that Soros has not paid be a dime in years despite my liberal shilling on his behalf.
Cat48
@Jeffro:
Hillz Campaign is working hard, funny video & True! He looks like he’s flipping out the way he’s hugging that flag pole. ewww
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: Which is interesting as she never went to Harvard. She attended the University of Houston and Rutgers School of Law.
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: Who knows. None of the reporting actually identifies the owner.
Cat48
@efgoldman:
I hope she would be prosecuted too. Abbott in TX did the same thing for $35,000 &’Trump had to stop selling the package in TX. The state regulators were ordered to stop all investigations. It sounds illegal, but I’m not an atty.?
srv
@redshirt: On a blog infested with lawyers, you can’t take on a billionaire?
It takes a conservative to herd liberals.
dmsilev
The really fun thing, which I don’t think Donald was counting on, is that the very public colonoscopy that he’s going to get over the next few months from both the press and the Clinton campaign is going to drive away anyone with even a hint of sense from doing business with him. His own big mouth might very well bring the entire edifice of Trump Inc down around it.
Sad!
Aleta
Trump today: “The Republican Party really should get their act together.”
The GOP tries very hard but …. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te_3gfOoh8c
redshirt
@srv: Rumor I heard is Trump is actually funding Sander’s campaign.
rikyrah
It’s 85 degrees at 9:30 at night ???
debbie
@rikyrah:
So much for the talking-to from Mitch et al.
redshirt
@rikyrah: It’s 49 here in Maine.
Mike in NC
@srv: Your contrarian hipster fellating of Herr Drumpf continues through November. Got it.
BillinGlendaleCA
@redshirt: 66 and misty here in LALALand.
amk
@srv: Idiot.
redshirt
@BillinGlendaleCA: Sounds nice. I want to live in Southern CA but inertia prevents it from happening.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
A bunch of pathetic COSPLAYers have all lost the plot.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: Try leaning downhill and to the west while wearing something heavy on your back!
Major Major Major Major
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: That really is pathetic. That’s the right word. In all senses.
catclub
@SiubhanDuinne:
Until they are told how many rich American bondholders will erupt in fury at such idiocy.
amk
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: Buncha paulite trolls.
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: A small reptile Gandhi type might do it.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt:
That’s usually my starter Pokemon too.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: I do not understand what your wrote at all.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@amk:
Can’t imagine why white male independent millennials aren’t taken seriously as a voting bloc.
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: Yoda?
justawriter
Here is a link to a recipe for a semi-souffle tomato and bacon pie. It is a ripoff of a Pillsbury bake off winner, but this is an easier to find link than the original. I first made this in 1977 and still get requests for it.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: And I don’t understand why a Star Wars reference fits here either.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@schrodinger’s cat: Not only that, but most people don’t realize that when Social Security has a surplus it adds to the deficit. Why? Because the SS funds don’t sit in a “lock box”, they get spent with the promise that the funds will be paid back in the future. In other words, they get loaned out, so there’s a debt to be repaid.
But there’s even more to it than that.
Angry Bear:
$33.3T in 2090 sounds like an ungodly large number. Oooh! Big scary number!!
But without context, it’s just a big scary number.
The present value of US housing stock is $28.5T. 75 years from now, $33.3T will not be a scary number.
Context matters, but it’s almost never provided in a meaningful way when talking about the budget, Social Security, or anything else related to the Federal Government.
Cheers,
Scott.
Mnemosyne
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:
Or, if I may quote a long-dead dude, “A national debt, if it is not excessive, will be to us a national blessing.”
ETA: Also, too, this article about the origins of federal debt turned out to be unexpectedly interesting.
BillinGlendaleCA
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: But, but the Government is just like your family budget; except the Government can print money and households incur debt over and above their income(mortgages, and sometimes car loans).
Adam L Silverman
@BillinGlendaleCA: @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:
And as I’ve often asked US military personnel when this comes up: when was the last time you had to finance a fleet of aircraft carriers?
NotMax
@Mnemosyne
Do you use Firefox? It well might be available in the browser.
Tools – Options – Security – Saved Logins – see if Netflix is in the list – click Show Passwords – click Yes when prompted – find password.
Click Hide Passwords when done – close Saved Logins box – close Options tab.
Been forever since I looked at Chrome but similar there as well, IIRC.
dogwood
@amk:
I think there a some Paulites in the Bernie brigade, but I think it more likely it’s new people who have the same sensibilities as the former Paul crowd. I taught high school government for 35 years and loved teenagers. But I can tell you the vast majority of young white males are not empathic. When class discussions veered toward issues about women, minoriies, poor people, the girls perked up and the boys started to shut down. The Sanders campaign was a perfect home for them because Bernie didn’t talk about the issues that bore them. I respected my students and listened to their opinions. They taught me a lot , but I never took my voting cues from them, because their views aren’t very coherent. They are the future, and they are welcome to participate in this process, but they aren’t ready to call the shots.
Quinerly
Here in St. Louis today, the Bernie supporters (T shirts and all) were out in south city in full force… at our very white Tower Grove Farmers Market, collecting signatures to get Dr. Jill Stein and the Green Party on the ballot. They were aggressive around the music stage at the market…
I ran two off away from me and said all they were doing was ultimately supporting Trump. They said they were just trying to get progressive measures on the ballot. Later, they were going door to door in the neighborhood collecting signatures. This area has had tons of Bernie yard signs from the beginning. They are all still up. A new HRC sign was spotted. Just saying……
Betty Cracker
@justawriter: Damn, that sounds good. Bookmarked — thanks!
FMBJO
@efgoldman: I’m thinking “Deadbeat Donald” might be used also. I linger on the “Dead”.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@BillinGlendaleCA: There are lots of spurious comparisons between family budgets and the national budget, but there are some instructive ones as well.
When someone takes out a 30 year mortgage that is 2-3x their annual income, they don’t suddenly go bankrupt. Pension funds with “huge” obligations that are paid out over 50+ years aren’t necessarily unsustainable either.
When someone loses their job, or otherwise has a drop in their income, the way to attack the problem isn’t always to cut expenses. Cutting expenses can do more harm than good. Sometimes it’s to spend down savings. Sometimes it’s to take on more long-term debt (to pay for education, or to pay to move and buy housing elsewhere). Sometime it’s to take on short term debt from friends and family to get through the downturn.
As Mnemosyne says, the national debt is a blessing. Hamilton was right that it was liquidity that helped create a strong national economy. Similarly, having a mortgage is often a good thing, because it means that family capital can be invested elsewhere (in addition to the tax benefits).
The way our national discourse has been hijacked by cartoon arguments that Taxes = Bad, and Inflation = Bad, and MBA-driven quarterly profit reports are the primary indicator of the worth of a company, all of those things have done tremendous damage to the country. I’d like to think that the tide is turning, but it depends on the results of the next few elections…
Eternal vigilance…
(Trying again to post this…)
Cheers,
Scott.
J R in WV
@Adam L Silverman:
I had the chance to vote against that rat bastard Nixon, and still the depths of his evil, dishonesty and disregard for our nation overwhelms me. Only Nixon would have been willing – well, maybe W Bush too – to repay the Saudis for their losses from a poorly thought-out oil embargo.
What an evil muther!! War crimes, treason to win his presidential election, just no end to his evil psychosis.