Wednesday Evening Open Thread: Saving ‘Brawndo’ for After the Election

Per the Boston Globe:

Budweiser announced on Tuesday that it is making a drastic change to its signature beer labels this summer, renaming its lager “America” and replacing most of its branding with patriotic mottos.

The redesigned cans and bottles that hold its ubiquitous beer will be on shelves through the election season, the company said…

Anheuser-Busch, which was sold to Belgian beer-maker InBev in 2008, will introduce the cans on May 23.

Just in time for your Memorial Day adult beverage needs!

Apart from realizing that some people are treating Idiocracy as an instruction manual, what’s on the agenda for the evening?

244 replies
  1. 1
    Soylent Green says:

    Fuck you, Chuck Todd.

  2. 2
    the Conster, la Citoyenne says:

    @Soylent Green:

    Evergreen comment for the foreseeable future. Thanks Obama!

  3. 3
  4. 4
    dedc79 says:

    So I take it Miller had already claimed Amurika?

  5. 5
    Ruviana says:

    Bigfooting Cole! Great job!

  6. 6
    The Other Chuck says:

    they just need to complete the look and replace “e pluribus unum” with “FUCK YEAH”

  7. 7
    hedgehog the occasional commenter says:

    Blergh. And stupid.

  8. 8
  9. 9
    goblue72 says:

    I assume Bob Schooley knows that Budweiser is owned by foreigners. Belgians no less (Ok, technically Belgians and Brazilians). How do we know they aren’t just trolling the rubes in the flyover states?

    Because I can honestly see a conference room of marketing executives wearing fancy brightly colored eyeglasses and matching pastel ties over in Flanders sitting around going:

    “So Karl, I bet if we called our beer “AMERICA FUCK YEAH!” they’d buy it.”

    “Franz, that is so stupid. They’d never believe it.”

    “I bet you 100 euros.”

    “Shit, I’ll match that and eat my Guccis if they do.”

  10. 10
    Corner Stone says:

    OMG, 540>539. Pearly Gates, here I come!

  11. 11
    Baud says:

    They wanted to rename it Baudweiser, but I said no. I thought it would diminish my brand.

    I guess America was the next best thing.

  12. 12
    Diana says:

    Isn’t this possibly driven by trademark issues? I dimly recall that the name Budweiser was sold to Americans in perpetuity by the Bohemian family that owned it in the 1950’s, figuring they’ve never be selling in Eastern Europe again, and the whole thing wound up in epic trademark litigation in the 1990’s as people tried to get the trademark back following the triumph of capitalism.

  13. 13
    shomi says:

    Sadly, this tacky tasteless stunt will probably be a big hit with the Nascar crowd. And Juggalo’s…whoop whoop.

  14. 14

    @Baud: Do you even want to win? You’re the worst.

  15. 15
    Mnemosyne says:

    Are we sure April Fool’s Day doesn’t fall somewhere else on the Belgian calendar?

  16. 16
    Rolling Along says:

    This is the sort of branding that Trump can provide if Sasse chooses to bow out.

    As I said, the strategy is to “double down” on dangerous, unpredictable masculinity to contrast that with Hillary’s aging feminist harping.

    Trump will be branded as the candidate of Alpha Males, women who like Alpha Males, traditionalists, Redpillers, Second Amendment enthusiasts, libertarians, and self-made businessmen.

    Clinton will be the candidate of immigrants, aging feminist cat ladies, and Beta Male orbiters.

  17. 17
    Baud says:

    @Major Major Major Major: I was holding out for Manischewitz.

  18. 18
    Corner Stone says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    @Baud: Do you even want to win? You’re the worst.

    Bullshit. Ted Cruz is the fucking worst.

  19. 19

    See, it’s stuff like this that’s why I haven’t pie’d our friend here yet. How funny is that! Redpillers! He’s straight out of the MRA/Gamergate crowd on Reddit! Sad!

  20. 20
    singfoom says:

    Does no one else take this an offense to this shitty marketing ploy? America is no pale, yellow pisswater with no taste! AMERICA is strong and bold, like a Sour Red Ale, or a belt of fucking whiskey.

    Like anyone actually reads the fucking can/container/whatever. Budweiser is such an old brand the typography and surrounding iconography makes the actual text unimportant.

  21. 21
    singfoom says:

    @Major Major Major Major: It’s about ethics in political blogging.

  22. 22
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    The REAL Budweiser has been upset about this for decades, so fine. InBev only cares about the money, and frankly, they know how shitty the taste of Americans is that a foaming yellow beverage that’s associated with draft horses in advertising sells so well.

    Reminds me of this good ol’ Missouri boy who was an LT in my battalion in Germany who wouldn’t drink REAL beer (aka German beer) because he was afraid it would ruin his taste for Bud.

    (gack, choke…)

  23. 23
    Mike J says:

    Why use the beer blogging tag when talking about Budweiser?

  24. 24
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Baud: Mad Dog 20/20 for the win!

  25. 25
    Baud says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: I never acquired the taste for beer. More of a wine guy, if anything.

  26. 26

    I have never had a Bud and not going to start after it changes its name!

  27. 27
    Mike J says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: What’s the word? Thunder Baud! What’s the price? A dollar twice!

  28. 28
    germy shoemangler says:

    John Fugelsang ‏@JohnFugelsang May 8
    Sarah Palin has become Salacious Crumb to Donald’s Jabba.

  29. 29
    scav says:

    I’d say they should keep it permanently. They stole Budweiser from the Czech anyway. Budějovický Budvar!

    Or why not call it Eagle Piss? Bald Eagle Piss to be even more explicit about it.

  30. 30
    Anne Laurie says:

    @Mike J: Because I knew someone would ask that question!

  31. 31
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Rolling Along: Yeah, all those MRA “Alpha Males” who sat out their generation’s war. You know, like Lord Voldemort (both the Wyoming and Florida versions), the deserting coward, The Donald, Rafael Cruz (hell, the entire 2016 GOP klown kar less Gilmore).

    Cowardly scum, the lot of them.

  32. 32
    Calouste says:

    @Mike J: Monty Python had it right more than 40 years ago:
    “American beer is like making love in a canoe. It’s fucking close to water.”

  33. 33
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @germy shoemangler: FTW. R2D2, give her a shock or three!

  34. 34
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Calouste: All the upfists!

  35. 35
    A Ghost To Most says:

    @Rolling Along:
    Come on,you alpha-fellating cumbucket.

    I only need ‘ON-DEMAND FUNDING’ for bingo.

  36. 36
    goblue72 says:

    @Mike J: Funny.

  37. 37
    bemused says:

    @germy shoemangler:

    Fugelsang is great. We saw him at the Stephanie Miller Sexy Liberal Show in Minneapolis last weekend. Frangela, the two woman comic duo, were fantastic and hilarious.

  38. 38
    Rolling Along says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Dubay and Cheney beat the shit out of Omega Male Al Gore and smug medal-throwing asshole John “Jengus [sic] Kahn” Kerry.

    Outsmarted both by a mile. How’s that make you feel?

    I bet you cried like a little baby election night 2004, didn’t you?

  39. 39
    Mnemosyne says:


    I had a glass of a wine/beer combination at a party that one of the local brewing companies made. It was interesting, but I didn’t want more after the sample was done. It was made by Hangar 24 and was called Vinaceous.

  40. 40
    Baud says:

    @Mnemosyne: I guess everything is worth trying once.

  41. 41
    Mnemosyne says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    From what I’ve heard, the best beer for making beer and cheese soup is Miller High Life. It sucks for drinking, but does well when you heat it up.

  42. 42
    Benw says:

    Does this mean we can also expect “America Lite”?

  43. 43
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Mike J: I’ve probably told this true tale before, but when I turned 21, my 17 year old brother immediately approached me and asked me to buy him some TJ Swann.

    I told him two things: one, you’re my brother, and I love you as a brother, but it’s illegal to buy alcohol for minors. And two, I would not be caught dead buying TJ Swann.

  44. 44
    A Ghost To Most says:

    @Rolling Along:
    So tell us about your military service, girly man. You being a big strong alpha, you must have served. Or are you just stubby fingers on your keyboard and dick?

  45. 45
    Mnemosyne says:


    I don’t like beer, but it was the only non-beer offering they had. That’s what I get for going to a Beer and Brats fundraiser.

  46. 46
    Rolling Along says:

    @A Ghost To Most:

    I was on Ritalin as a teenager which disqualified me from service.

  47. 47
    p.a. says:


    I never acquired the taste for beer. More of a wine guy, if anything.

    Cheez you’re really trying to Dukakis this election, aren’t you? What’s next, badmouthing Chevys?

  48. 48
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Rolling Along: Still cowardly pants shitting scum. War criminals whose heads would look much better on pikes than on their shoulders.

    Also, too, Obama kicked the living shit out of your beloved Rmoney. And will be recalled in the top 25% of all Presidents, unlike the deserting coward, who is fighting with Buchanan for the basement.

  49. 49
    Baud says:

    @Mnemosyne: It’s not like they didn’t warn you.

  50. 50
    Ruckus says:

    Flint water, maybe.
    Tasted buttwiper once, not sure if Flint water is that bad

  51. 51
    magurakurin says:

    @Rolling Along: Sigh. Is the quality of trolls we are going to see this cycle? Damn. Trump is a fucking cheapskate if this is the level he is paying for. Jeb? had way better…and cocktail wienies, too.

  52. 52
    Baud says:

    @p.a.: Arugula and orange juice.

  53. 53
    A Ghost To Most says:

    And by the way, ‘alpha’ is just shorthand for greedy sociopathic asshole.

  54. 54
    smintheus says:

    I guess because nothing says “America” like weak and tasteless?

  55. 55
    piratedan says:

    well… these are STILL the United States and if someone wants to get offended about a shitty basic beer named after the country when we already have blowout sales of furniture and cars based on presidential birthdays, I figure, fuck it, even advertising schmoes gotts to get paid.

    I’ll just go get a sixxer of Stella and pretend to not give a fuck.

  56. 56
    p.a. says:

    Hey I’m a beer snob, but a cold Bud while/after yardwork is a fine thing. A place for everything and everything in its place.

  57. 57
    Rolling Along says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    *sigh* ahhhlgooore *sigh*/Loserman 166

    John ‘Effin Kerry/Breck Girl 251

    U mad bro?

  58. 58
  59. 59
    A Ghost To Most says:

    @Rolling A Turd:
    How fucking convenient, asswipe. I’m sure Ted Fuckwad Nugent is a personal hero.

    Fuck you, you craven coward.

  60. 60
    magurakurin says:

    @Rolling Along: nobody’s mad. Just tired. So, tired. And bored…you need to up your game…a lot.

    Seriously, not entertaining at all. Think up some nice zingers and try again tomorrow.

  61. 61
    SoupCatcher says:

    Every so often I’ll get a craving for a Budweiser Chelada Picante tall boy.

    I wonder what the new name for that one will be.

  62. 62
    JPL says:

    @Mnemosyne: Don’t feed the trolls. I wrote a fairly long comment highlighting Bush’s greatest achievements and erased it.
    It’s just not worth it.

  63. 63
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @p.a.: Miller High Life is the beer for that circumstance.

  64. 64

    @Rolling Along:

    U mad bro?

    Wow, you really did come here straight from Reddit. Wipe your shoes next time, you tracked in some shit.

  65. 65
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Rolling Along: You mad that McCain and Rmoney got beat by a blah man?

    BTW…Al Gore had more popular votes than deserting coward, and five sacks of treasonous shit installed him in the Presidency with the help of his low energy “clap please” brother in Florida. You know, the guy with BRINKS TRUCKS at his disposal.

  66. 66
    bupalos says:

    @Rolling Along: Thank you for your service!

  67. 67
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Well, of course he did, because he oozes it.

  68. 68
    SenyorDave says:

    Apart from realizing that some people are treating Idiocracy as an instruction manual

    Its just the never-ending attempt to appeal to the utter stupidity of white males (full disclosure – I am a white male). The same white males who will vote for Trump in droves because he’s not only a man, but THE MAN. He’ll show those INSERT GROUP (Mexicans, Muslims, women, etc.) who’s running things. And obviously a pampered billionaire who was born with a silver spoon up his ass will understand the problems facing a coal miner in WV, a steelworker in OH, or an underemployed white collar guy in anytown. T Boone Pickens, I understand why he’s for Trump. He’s a narcisstic fascist just like Trump. But anyone who isn’t rich ? Trump at best would ignore the, at worst have complete contempt for them.

  69. 69
    EBT says:

    California, where I can unwind with vapor instead. And maybe some gosling black rum in raspberry soda.

  70. 70
    Mnemosyne says:


    With the caveat that I only know beer because of what my microbrew-loving husband tells me, apparently a lot of microbrewers are offering low-alcohol “session” beers that are for that situation. Tasty, but you’ll be able to drive within an hour.

  71. 71
    debbie says:

    So what’s the message? America is monkey piss?

  72. 72
    Rolling Along says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Romney only lost because of Sandy and a big assist from Candy Crowley.

    “Deserting coward”? Lol, Dan Rather, is that you?

  73. 73
    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Another Disgruntled Baud! Supporter, et tu Major Major Major Major?

  74. 74

    Is this troll staffed in shifts or something? This is a big tone difference from last time I saw him.

  75. 75
    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @Baud: Passover has, eh, passed. Another miscalculation from the Baud! campaign.

  76. 76
    bupalos says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: I’m not comfortable with the way you guys are treating this veteran.

  77. 77
    debbie says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    I had a friend who used to douse his ice cream with MD 20/20. I didn’t think ice cream could be ruined, but…

  78. 78
    p.a. says:

    @Mnemosyne: witbiers are fine summer refreshers.

  79. 79
    jl says:


    ” They wanted to rename it Baudweiser, but I said no. I thought it would diminish my brand. ”

    But I thought tasteless political swill WAS the Baud! 2016! brand. Especially if it earned at least a misdemeanor trial. .

    Consistent political messaging has always been the Baud! 2016! weak spot.

    Edit: this is one of those stories that I assume is a hoax until proven otherwise. Can ‘America’ sue Bud for slander? Will Coors rename their beer ‘Colorado’? Or maybe ‘Golden’? So many questions.

  80. 80
    bupalos says:

    @Rolling Along: Don’t let these guys get under your skin. In my book, anyone who has put there service in the way you guys did back in ’45 deserves a little leeway. Thanks again for your service, sir!

  81. 81
    p.a. says:

    @BillinGlendaleCA: The collapse has been rapid and ugly. What did we ever see in him? Us progressives and our flavors du jour.

  82. 82
    Tokyokie says:

    Shit like this ImBev move makes me wish I drank so I could boycott their crappy product. Although I imagine that if I drank beer, I wouldn’t be drinking that crap.

  83. 83
    Baud says:

    @p.a.: You’ll miss me when I’m gone.

  84. 84
    Mike in NC says:

    @Rolling Along: You would never have been able to pass either the physical or mental screening.

    In defense of Drumpf, it was a thing of beauty to watch him disarm and destroy your favorite low energy mama’s boy. He should have bent him over the podium and made him squeal like a pig until Babs led him away, crying. Word is that he hightailed it to Mexico and was last seen at the bottom of a barrel of tequila.

  85. 85
    Origuy says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Is this troll staffed in shifts or something?

    They outsourced him to Rajiv in Chennai. Go easy on him, he’s still in training.

  86. 86
    jl says:


    ” Hey I’m a beer snob, but a cold Bud while/after yardwork is a fine thing. ”

    If i’ts cold enough, pretty much anything is fine thing after yardwork.

  87. 87
    A Ghost To Most says:

    I’d be willing to bet that skid mark has never served our country a day in his entire worthless life. He only serves his greedy sociopathic asshole masters, in furtherance of himself.

  88. 88
    NotMax says:


    The Jeb Bush of beers.

    @Omnes Omnibus

    Deign to disagree. A classic (not the resurrected) Pabst Blue Ribbon.

    Step-father always kept a supply of Rheingold in the secondary fridge in the basement.

    Not so much because he drank it (a six-pack probably lasted him seven months) but because he knew everyone else who conceivably would be in the house couldn’t stand the stuff and would refuse when offered a beer.

  89. 89
  90. 90
    Steeplejack says:

    I am fairly sluttish indiscriminate in my beer drinking (viz., drinking a Dos Equis right now), but I can’t remember the last time I had a Budweiser. Pretty sure it has been at least 10-15 years. Renaming it “America” doesn’t improve the odds.

  91. 91
    p.a. says:

    @NotMax: “Hi neighbor, have a ‘gansett”

  92. 92
    debbie says:


    I hate to see myself typing this, but Budweiser is great for boiling shrimp.

  93. 93
    Benw says:

    @Baud: I’m gonna miss you by your taco.

  94. 94
    jl says:


    ” Passover has, eh, passed. Another miscalculation from the Baud! campaign. ”

    Holiday items are on discount after the holiday is over. It’s part of Baud! 2016! campaign to cut wasteful spending. Like his ‘roll your own from sidewalk butts’ policy.

  95. 95
    Miss Bianca says:

    @debbie: Well, it’s nice to know that it’s good for *something*.

  96. 96
    jl says:


    ” when I’m gone. ”

    And I thought that was the headline Baud! 2016! campaign theme.

  97. 97
    Bobby Thomson says:

    How the hell do they trademark that? Balls.

  98. 98
    NotMax says:


    Wetback Lite.

    (It’s my birthday, I get a free pass to be completely distasteful just this once.)

  99. 99
    Baud says:

    @p.a.: Damn. You dissed me with country. Some things you can’t take back.

  100. 100
    JPL says:

    @NotMax: Happy Day! Keep it up, and Donald will call you to see if you are available for the VP spot.

  101. 101
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Rolling Along: Oh, the Marquis de Mittens only lost due to an “act of God” and a woman whose fluffing of the deserting coward rivals your own.


  102. 102
    Baud says:

    @NotMax: Happy birthday! Why are you spending it with us losers?

  103. 103
    lamh36 says:

    Senator Reid…is Team NMFTG!

    Harry Reid to Rep. Alan Grayson: ‘I want you to lose’

    Rep. Alan Grayson angrily confronted Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid on Wednesday, disrupting a meeting of the Congressional Progressive Caucus in front of dozens of staffers and members of Congress…
    Grayson (D-Fla.), whose bid for the open Florida Senate seat Reid vehemently opposes, arrived at the meeting with Reid’s February statement in hand, according to two sources in the room. In that statement, Reid said Grayson has “no moral compass” and “used his status as a congressman to unethically promote his Cayman Islands hedge funds.”
    Story Continued Below

    As each member took a turn to speak to Reid, it was Grayson’s turn. He asked Reid if the Nevada senator knows who he is. After Reid answered in the affirmative, Grayson went on the attack.
    “Say my name, senator. Say my name,” Grayson told Reid as Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) tried to shut down the confrontation. Ellison chided Grayson, asking him what he was doing and why he was distracting from the meeting’s goals.
    Grayson responded by angrily waving a printout of Reid’s searing quote that called on Grayson to drop out of the primary race against Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-Fla.).
    “Why’d you say that?” Grayson said, insisting Reid’s statement was false.
    Reid calmly faced his inquisitor: “I want you to lose. It’s true.”...

    shorter Harry Reid… Sorry, not sorry…

  104. 104
    Calouste says:

    I notice that the label says “Indivisible since 1776”.
    I guess the marketeers slept through the history class in which the period 1861-1865 was discussed.

  105. 105
    p.a. says:

    @SoupCatcher: That sounds horrible… must… try…
    available in US?

  106. 106
    JPL says:

    @Baud: So now there is something wrong with losers…………..

  107. 107
    Rolling Along says:

    @Mike in NC:

    You haven’t heard the last of the Bushes. George P. Bush is in the wings, poised for 2028 at the earliest!

    Again, I, for Ben Sasse (handsome, rugged, conservative and for a strong national defense AND entitlement reform!) but just saying Trump will probably win if Sasse doesn’t get in.


  108. 108
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @smintheus: That’s the America of Rolling Along. Weak and tasteless.

  109. 109
    Baud says:

    @JPL: Everyone is so hostile today. This primary can’t end soon enough.

  110. 110
    Mnemosyne says:


    I only mock, and frankly I don’t put much effort into it. Why bother?

  111. 111
    A Ghost To Most says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:
    We can call him ‘Ritalin Reject’; it even starts with his favorite letter (and now we know why).

  112. 112
    NotMax says:


    Memorable ads (infinitely more so than the brew itself) were the Bert & Harry ones (voiced by Bob & Ray) for Piels.

  113. 113
    p.a. says:

    @Baud: You mean I’ve fraked up my Fiji ambassadorship? Well they’ll prolly be under water by your 2nd term anyway…

  114. 114
    Rolling Along says:

    @A Ghost To Most:

    Mocking people with ADHD? I thought the left was supposed to be “compassionate”.

  115. 115
    Baud says:


    ” when I’m gone. ”

    And I thought that was the headline Baud! 2016! campaign theme.


  116. 116
    Punchy says:

    Bud in a can is great, as long as you dump out the beer and refill it with Vanilla Porter

  117. 117
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Rolling Along: He’ll get his worthless ass handed to him just like dear old dad did.

    The name “Bush” is toxic. Thanks, deserting coward.

  118. 118
    D58826 says:

    Ouch this is going to bern:

    Bernie Sanders Only Cares About Bernie Sanders;ocid=iehp

  119. 119
    Rolling Along says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    He never deserted unless you believe the memo really wasn’t written on MS WORD 2000.

  120. 120
    lamh36 says:

    NEW: @MittRomney calls Donald Trump’s refusal to release tax returns “disqualifying.”

  121. 121
  122. 122
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Rolling Along:

    Dude, at least half of us here have ADHD, including me. You’re not a special snowflake.

  123. 123
    Baud says:

    @p.a.: Yep. You’re now going here instead.

  124. 124
    Ian says:

    @Rolling Along:
    You know, a real aplha male like yerself ought to be out encouraging people of the rightness of your opinions in person. Only beta males like us weasals troll people online.

  125. 125
    NotMax says:

    @(t)rolling along

    At least get the kid’s name right. It’s George P. G. Bush. (Prescott Garnica)

    For whatever reason (self-shame because too Hispanic?), he dropped using his second middle name when on the ballot. Doesn’t alter the fact that P. is not his only middle initial.

    What a maroon.

  126. 126
    Mike in NC says:

    @Rolling Along: Ritalin Boy, 99.99% of voters never heard of this doofus Sasse. Tea Party loser from an empty state. Yeah, he’s a fucking superstar.


  127. 127
    SoupCatcher says:

    @NotMax: I guess that is down the path I was speculating along (I was thinking something along the lines of Reconquista!).

    Well played on the birthday mulligan, by the way.

    @p.a.: I don’t know how wide the distribution, but it is available here in California. I’m a sucker for trying spicy beers but have been disappointed by almost every single one (pretty much the reaction I have after the first sip, every single time, is to think that those two things don’t really mix) except for the chelada style (Modelo has a decent one as well). Maybe it’s because it’s less like beer and more like a fizzy bloody mary.

  128. 128
    The Sheriff Endorses Baud 2016 says:

    @lamh36: ‘Falling in line’

  129. 129
    raven says:

    Anybody done a reverse mortgage?

  130. 130
    Baud says:

    @lamh36: He would know.

  131. 131
    A Ghost To Most says:

    @A Ghost To Most:
    You are an insufferable asshole, who only comes here for the paycheck. Fuck you for pulling out a victim card after all the horseshit. Just another excuse for your entitled self.

    Hillary is going to crush whatever GOP fascist you numbskulls put up.

  132. 132
    Rolling Along says:

    @Mike in NC:

    Wait until the advertising dollars from the ‘ON DEMAND’ FUNDING. Kochs and Adleson will hop right on board and strike up the band in no time. Not to mention free media from National Review, The Weekly Standard, The WSJ, Mark Levin, and Glenn Beck (The Blaze)!

  133. 133
    Miss Bianca says:

    @Mnemosyne: Wait, what? Were you talking to me? Sorry, I was looking at something else.

  134. 134
    Mnemosyne says:

    @A Ghost To Most:

    Meh, he’s not worth anything other than mockery. We already know how pathetic he is.

  135. 135
  136. 136
    Mike in NC says:

    @NotMax: George Pablo Bush inherited his mother’s looks and his father’s work ethic. No future outside of a place like Texas. Very sad!!!

  137. 137
    p.a. says:

    @Baud: For duty and humanity! I’ll try to get the island’s America Beer concession.

  138. 138
    scav says:

    On demand funding as magic cure-all? Demand and get money! Sounds like a moochers wet-dream-method to me.

  139. 139
    ThresherK says:

    @Calouste: I thought that was Watney’s Red Barrel. (No personal experience with the brand, but the English don’t have to go “international” for that insult.)

  140. 140
    the Conster, la Citoyenne says:


    Wow, I couldn’t have written a better summary of the steaming pile of bullshit n/k/a Bernie fucking Sanders.

  141. 141
    jl says:

    @Mike in NC: Trump haiku is catching on, everyone using it. It’s the Bud Lite of campaign rhetoric. American English swindled, once again. Very scary!

  142. 142
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Miss Bianca:

    Also, LMM and his wife were way too cute on Twitter today. This is why he can never be my imaginary future ex-husband — Vanessa is perfect for him.

    (Also because I make up my own words and convince G to buy in, so clearly LMM and I are twinsies.)

  143. 143
    Ryan says:

    Is there Trump beer, or does he regard it as too tasteless to place his name on?

  144. 144
    A Ghost To Most says:


  145. 145
    No One You Know says:

    @singfoom: There’s coffee all over my monitor, but at least I can breathe now.

  146. 146
    NotMax says:


    You can’t see me but I’m totally doing a happy dance.

    Major Major Major Major


  147. 147

    @Rolling Along: Ah, here’s the evening shift.

  148. 148
    marilynD Southern Oregon says:

    @raven: I used to “do” them for a living….but it’s been 6 years. If you are single with no kids, and don’t care if there is anything to hand down to them…and it makes living much easier for you, go for it. If you are married, that’s when things can be iffy, depending on who gets left behind after you or the missus dies.

  149. 149
    frosty says:


    They stole Budweiser from the Czech anyway.

    So will they let the Czechs have the name back?

  150. 150
    D58826 says:

    @Rolling Along: I have no inside knowledge about the authenticity of the memos in question. But i do know for a fact that they could have come from a 1960 era typewriter. In 1967 My mother used an IBM Selectric with a ‘golf’ball for the letters rather that the bars that kept jamming in old style typewriters. So what is so unique about the IBM Selectric – the ball could be taken out and replaced with one with a different font or character set. There was a ball for scientific notation. I have no idea if the Texas Air National Guard had these kinds of typewriters but the statement that the documents could only have have been written on a word processor is factually not true. A real investigation would have turned up the Selectric as a plausible way for the documents to have been produced in 1967. CBS was more afraid of the truth than the facts. They didn’t want to hurt the Bush family fee-fees. To much advertising revenue at stake. I repeat I have no idea about how the documents came about. It is not implausible that it was a GOP sting to undermine Rather’s credibility. Fake planned parenthood tapes and acorn tapes are mot the first time these tactics have been used.
    From wikipedia

    Instead of the “basket” of individual typebars that swung up to strike the ribbon and page in a traditional typewriter, the Selectric had a type element (frequently called a “typeball”, or more informally, a “golf ball”) that rotated and pivoted to the correct position before striking. The type element could be easily changed so as to print different fonts in the same document, resurrecting a capability that had been pioneered by the Blickensderfer typewriter 60 years before. The Selectric also replaced the traditional typewriter’s moving carriage with a paper roller (“platen”) that stayed in position while the typeball and ribbon mechanism moved from side to side.

  151. 151
  152. 152


    I wrote a fairly long comment highlighting Bush’s greatest achievements and erased it.

    I find it hard to believe that a post highlighting Bush’s achievements would be more than a couple of sentences.

  153. 153
    Mike J says:


    So will they let the Czechs have the name back?

    Czech back latter.

  154. 154

    Proving, once again, that Samuel Johnson had it right: patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.

  155. 155
    Steeplejack says:


    AMERICA is strong and bold, like a Sour Red Ale, or a belt of fucking whiskey.

    America is Cold Cock malt liquor. “Don’t let the smooth taste fool you!” (h/t Nat X)

  156. 156
    raven says:

    @marilynD Southern Oregon: Yea we are looking at that aspect. She’s not eligible to be on the deed but, since 2104, the law changed and the surviving spouse has the right to stay in the house. We don’t have kids and, while we’d like to leave something to nieces and nephews, it’s not paramount. We are looking at taking a line of credit and boosting our retirement accounts. Our financial guy recommended an approach that we took ten years ago and it has done well.

  157. 157
    Ripley says:


    I hate to see myself typing this, but Budweiser is great for boiling shrimp.

    So, we can expect “America: Steaming & Fishy!” commercials throughout the summer?

  158. 158
    NotMax says:


    And to this day remain free of charges of passing bad Czechs.

  159. 159
    raven says:

    @Baud: Thanks, good resource.

  160. 160
    frosty says:


    Hey I’m a beer snob, but a cold Bud while/after yardwork is a fine thing.

    That’s what I call lawnmower beer and you’re right, it’s great to have a cold one after yard work. I cycle between Natty Boh, Rolling Rock,and Yuengleng. Never ever Bud or Coors though.

  161. 161
    chopper says:

    @Rolling Along:

    I was on Ritalin as a teenager which disqualified me from service.

    that’s the funniest thing i’ve ever read. kudos!

  162. 162
  163. 163
    chopper says:


    miller lite is surprisingly good when you’re rebuilding a motorcycle engine on your back porch on a hot day, and the beer is very cold.

  164. 164
    lamh36 says:

    Trump, Warren Trade Barbs After He Says She Didn’t Have ‘Guts’ To Run For Prez

    Presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump continued his attacks Wednesday against Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), tweeting that she didn’t “have the guts” to run for the presidency.

    He also questioned her Native American heritage again:

    Goofy Elizabeth Warren didn’t have the guts to run for POTUS. Her phony Native American heritage stops that and VP cold.

  165. 165
    frosty says:

    @Rolling Along:

    I was on Ritalin as a teenager which disqualified me from service.

    Bull.So was my son who’s finishing up his National Guard enlistment.

  166. 166
    NotMax says:


    When preparing mac & cheese, I add 20 ounces or so of lager to the water used for boiling pasta. Kicks it up a small notch.

    Not Bud, though.

  167. 167
    JPL says:

    @Roger Moore: Not all achievements are good. In Bush’s case, I couldn’t find one that was positive.

    I find it interesting that some want to engage with the paid troll.

  168. 168

    The sad thing is, RA probably believes the Ritalin thing.

  169. 169
    lamh36 says:

    So the other day, I was wondering how the hell does one even enforce that NC law…

    Then this morning on TJMS, I heard Rev Al and he has a proposition…

    There is no way to really enforce this type of law…imagine the time, money and expense to do so.

    Plus, imagine the lawsuits from folks falsy accused of not being the “right gender”.

    Rev Al…propsed to TJMS, that this was an electioneering tactic to gin up “moral” voter outrage. Get the “moral” voters riled up enough to get out and vote to keep the folks in who enacted this, including the governor who’s up for relection.

    So you pass and introduce this law, folks in up in arms about “predators” in the restrooms and boom, instant voter turn on…smh

    Kinda like the year when Bush used the gay rights issue to gin up support with evangelist and oral voters…

  170. 170
    NotMax says:


    Rolling Rock, which was brewed in Latrobe, PA (no longer, made in NJ now). Known locally as Latrine, PA because the river there was not far downstream from the discharge pipes of a paper mill..

  171. 171
    JPL says:

    @NotMax: My neighbor makes the best black beans and she adds a few cups of wine to soak the beans in.

  172. 172
    marilynD Southern Oregon says:

    @raven: Not sure if you can do it, but we had cooperating Title Co.s that would go back the next day and put the wife back on title, as at that time (2010), if she wasn’t on the deed, she could not be on the title. I wouldn’t recommend that as an investment tool. Too many things could go wrong. If you do not need the money to live more comfortably, you probably could find better ways to improve your investment portfolio….also, beware of any adviser who steers you to a specific loan officer. Kickbacks were flagrant when these products were first offered, and are highly frowned on by the Feds now, I hope!!

  173. 173
    Prescott Cactus says:

    Bud, the company that gave us Straw-Ber-Rita AND Lime-A-Rita.

    Didn’t read the fine print. Thought it was lime and strawberry margaritas made by Budweiser.

    Oh no, a margarita and beer mixture with carbonation.

    It was worse than warm wine cooler poured out of a pigs ass.

  174. 174
    Gravenstone says:

    @germy shoemangler: Ya know, I can totally hear her doing Crumb’s cackle.

  175. 175
    raven says:

    @marilynD Southern Oregon: OK, good info. I know that we did buy ourt long term health care through the advisor. He’s a former prof here and works with lots of faculty and staff on retirement.

    ” the past, if you weren’t listed as a borrower on a reverse mortgage on your home and your spouse died, you could very likely end up losing the home to a foreclosure. However, a recent District of Columbia federal court’s landmark ruling recognizes the need to protect surviving spouses in this situation. Read on to learn more about the groundbreaking ruling in Bennett et al. v. Donovan and how the outcome of this case (and new reverse mortgage rules) can protect you if your spouse passes away, but you are not named as a co-borrower on a reverse mortgage.

  176. 176
    NotMax says:


    Positive achievements?

    The Do Not Call registry.

    Also -  -  -  -  -  - 


  177. 177
    Schlemazel Khan says:

    @Major Major Major Major:
    Why not?The poor moron believes JEB? is a sure bet because of brinks trucks stuck in reverse and that Sassy is going to bring the vote to the outhouse. Dumbass will believe anything.

  178. 178
    A Ghost To Most says:

    @Major Major Major Major:
    Nah, the only thing it believes is when the check clears.

    On a better, electoral, note:

    tRump is toast

  179. 179
    Cacti says:

    If they put “F**k Yeah!” in parentheses underneath the name, I might grab a sixer as a keepsake.

  180. 180
    NotMax says:


    Filed away to try next time make feijoada. Thanks.

  181. 181
    Prescott Cactus says:

    @raven: No, but I don’t think they are regarded as the financing vehicle of first or second choice. Lots of fee’s, commissions, details, possible landmines.

  182. 182
    Mnemosyne says:


    Rev. Al is 100 percent right. Folks who’ve read the NC bill say that it sneaks all kinds of union-busting and other administrative stuff in with the bathroom “protection.” It’s a scam.

  183. 183
    mellowjohn says:

    they can call it whatever they like, but i’ll still call it horse piss.

  184. 184
  185. 185
    Ruviana says:

    @Rolling Along: #Nolivingchin!

  186. 186
    John W. says:

    My stuck-up friends and I always called it ‘Buttwiper’. I did know a bulldog that liked it, though.

  187. 187
    Trollhattan says:

    Somebody held the brand they really wanted.

  188. 188
    Litlebritdifrnt says:

    Ditto I know a ton of marines who joined up while on Ritalin.

  189. 189
    John W. says:

    @mellowjohn: Hold on to your stomach: I had a friend who after sleeping it off at my house, caught my wife emptying part filled cans of Buttwiper the nextl morning. He yelled, “Woman, what are you doing! That’s my beer!”. Warm crappy beer: breakfast of champions.


  190. 190
    Prescott Cactus says:

    @raven: Welcome !

  191. 191
    Rolling Along says:


    The military was a lot stricter about that stuff in the early ’90s than they are now. Different times.

  192. 192
    chopper says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    the actual paper says “jesus christ, he can’t do one goddamn pushup!”

  193. 193
    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet says:

    ObOpenThread. BBC:

    The Turkish minister for European Union affairs has told the BBC he is losing hope of getting a deal on visa-free travel for Turks within Europe.

    Volkan Bozkir said changing anti-terror laws in Turkey would be impossible.

    The EU insists that Turkey needs to narrow its definition of terrorism – as well as meet four other key criteria – to qualify for visa-free travel.

    It is part of a larger agreement between the two sides aimed at easing Europe’s migration crisis.

    On Wednesday, Mr Bozkir told the BBC that his hopes of getting visa-free travel for Turkish nationals were “getting less and less”.

    He admitted that the negotiations had reached a crucial phase, stressing that Turkey had already done enough.

    Good that the EU isn’t backing down on this. Someone needs to stand up to Erdogan and stop rewarding him while he seems to move farther and farther toward strongman rule.


  194. 194
    Kathleen says:

    @Major Major Major Major: He’s. Not. Even. Trying.

  195. 195
    raven says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: We’d get french pharmaceutical meth or a weight loss syrup called Obesitol in the village. Shit was great for those long convoys from north of Saigon way into the delta> I actually drove slower and safer when I was doing it.

  196. 196
    Steeplejack says:


    Happy birthday!

  197. 197
  198. 198
    scav says:

    No doubt they got the idea after being unable to take their eyes off the Republican primary and concluding that there’s a solid demographic of ‘mercans that really will obediently swallow anything with the proper red-white-and-blue label on it.

  199. 199

    Last I checked, real Americans homebrew now.


    /signed a teetotaler

  200. 200

    @NotMax: well damn I should have posted more often this past Sunday. :(

  201. 201
    Mnemosyne says:


    I actually drove slower and safer when I was doing it.

    Probably yet another sign that you have ADHD. Caffeine puts me to sleep.

  202. 202
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Rolling Along:

    All you had to do was stay off Ritalin for a year and you would have been in. So much for your patriotic fervor.

  203. 203
    A Ghost To Most says:

    Yeah, but they are already Buttwiper drinkers.

  204. 204


    In Bush’s case, I couldn’t find one that was positive.

    I can think of a couple:
    1) Substantially increasing foreign aid used for AIDS prevention
    2) Declaring 6 new National Monuments, including 4 marine NMs that cover a vast area in the Pacific. That made him the first Republican since Nixon to make a new NM by proclamation; all National Monuments created under Ford, Reagan, and Bush Sr. were created by Congress.

  205. 205
    NotMax says:


    Domo arigato.

  206. 206
    Germy Shoemangler says:

    As an antidote to piss beer, here is Mahalia Jackson singing Guardian Angels (a song composed by Harpo Marx) accompanied by Harpo:

  207. 207
    scav says:

    @A Ghost To Most: well, wasn’t going to ascribe too much rationality to PR campaigns.

  208. 208
    Chyron HR says:

    @Rolling Along:

    Muh Ritalin!

    So how incoherent are you when you’re NOT on behavior-correcting drugs?

  209. 209
    debbie says:


    First, happy birthday!

    I would never use Bud in anything else, but the shrimp were really very delicious. It was like the taste of Old Bay without the saltiness.

  210. 210
    NotMax says:


    Merci, madame.

  211. 211
    NotMax says:

    Very early alert: Second season of “Mr. Robot” begins on July 13. Mark those calendars.

  212. 212
    Ben Cisco says:

    @lamh36: That was indeed the intent.

    That, and gutting employee protections regarding wrongful/discriminatory actions.

    And the right of cities and municipalities to enact their own minimum wage laws.

    It’s not going to save him.

  213. 213
    BillinGlendaleCA says:


    Why are you spending it with us losers?

    Speak for yourself, bud.

  214. 214
    Mike in NC says:

    On a NATO exercise in Scotland about 20 years ago, we stayed at a very nice B&B located above a pub, where the most expensive beer was canned Bud because they had to import that swill.

  215. 215
    Schlemazel Khan says:

    @Rolling Along:
    two words:

  216. 216
    rk says:

    @Rolling Along:

    What’s all this nonsense that you keep spewing about alpha, beta, Omega males. Are you five years old? Or are you just a deeply deeply insecure little man like your hero Trump.

  217. 217
    The Lodger says:

    @Rolling Along: You mentioned P in an An he user Busch thread. At least you’re on topic.

  218. 218
    Dog Dawg Damn says:

    @Rolling Along: As far as I can tell, the only people who use the term “alpha males” are delta males who are jealous the “beta males” have managed to do what can’t–leave their parents’ basements and having a functioning member of society.

    And by “member”, I mean a penis that works in the presence of women.

  219. 219
    Dog Dawg Damn says:

    @Rolling Along: The only people who use the term “alpha males” are delta males who are jealous the “beta males” have managed to do what they cannnot–leave their parents’ basements and have a functioning member of society.

    And by “member”, I mean something that works in the presence of actual, physical women.

  220. 220
    Tripod says:

    I like a good old American adjunct lager. Budweiser is no longer that. They relentlessly beat the quality out of it to cut costs and appeal to the most palettes. When even the mighty Anheuser-Busch marketing machine couldn’t hold off the market share erosion, they busted out the company.

  221. 221
    Aleta says:

    My nephew joined the Marines about 4 years ago. A recruiter told him he had to be off his medications (Add*r*ll. and anti-depress) for some months before he could be accepted. Being on the meds had made a huge difference for him. He quit them, and then began to fail his college classes, dropped out, lost his job, spent some months depressed, and then joined as his best option. Anyway, according to the recruiter he could not join if he was on those meds. He was told the Marines would prescribe meds if he needed them after he was in. He’s on 2nd tour in Afghanistan now.

  222. 222
    Gravenstone says:

    @rk: Probably best not to ask it about the size of its hands.

  223. 223
    The Lodger says:

    @Aleta: So he had to go off his meds, lose his job, and fail college just to make the Marines into an attractive alternative ? I’m speechless.

  224. 224
    Aleta says:

    @The Lodger: @The Lodger: I was pissed; the recruiter had been pursuing him for several years. (The recruiter used to play video games with him, and told him he was one of the best at it he’d seen.)

    For anyone interested, this link is from 2014 about joining the military in general:
    “Under the old standards, any history of ADD or ADHD was disqualifying. While waivers were sometimes possible, they were among the hardest categories of waivers to get approved. Under the new standards, ADD/ADHD is disqualifying only if the applicant has been treated with ADD/ADHD medication within the previous year and/or they display signs of ADD/ADHD. For applicants with a previous history of ADD/ADHD who have been off medication for more than one year, and they do no demonstrate significant impulsivity or inattention during MEPS processing, the MEPS examining official may find them qualified for military service without submission of a waiver.

    Records review is still required. Any history of being evaluated or treated for ADD/ADHD must be documented. As a minimum, all treatment (if any) within the previous three years must be submitted to MEPS, in advance, as part of the medical pre-screening. Full medical records are required if the applicant was ever treated for ADD or ADHD with any medication other than Ritalin, Adderal, or Dexedrine, or if there were any additional psychiatric symptoms, such as, but not limited to, depression.”

  225. 225
    Mnemosyne says:


    I can understand why the armed forces are reluctant to have people with impulsivity issues carry guns, but they’re really going about it the wrong way. My nephew heads off to boot camp in August and I am not thrilled about it.

  226. 226
    Aleta says:

    @Mnemosyne: My relative had to go off antidepr. to renew her type of security clearance (which she’s had for research, for many many years). Seems like poor practice to me–even backwards.

  227. 227
    J R in WV says:

    @Rolling Along:

    War Criminal Cheney and Deserting Coward Bush?

    Versus man who actually killed and was wounded in defense of his nation? Keep on eating those red pills, they will make your testicles fall off pretty soon, if it hasn’t happened yet!

  228. 228
    J R in WV says:


    Yuengling beer is made by an Ayn Rand true-believer who spends much of his profits hating on union workers. He works to undermine the rights of workers to unite to improve their working and living conditions.

    I enjoyed the beer, but haven’t had a drop since I discovered his vile political viewpoints, and the work he does to fight American values. Same with Coors – right wing Nazis.

  229. 229

    @J R in WV: none of that swill is worth the cans it comes in. There are so many local micro choices now, unless you live in BFE or lack the coin, there is always something better.

  230. 230
    TriassicSands says:

    Anheuser Busch can call its beer anything it wants — Jehovah’s Sweet Nectar — but it will still be rat piss. There was a time when Americans might have drunk American beers because there was almost nothing else available — in many areas, if people were lucky, a mediocre to poor import like Heinekin might have been available. In the seventies, I remember Canadians coming to the States to rock climb and extolling the virtues of Canadian beers while deploring American brews. In truth, Canadian beers like Labatts and Molson really weren’t significantly better than American beers. They paled when compared to what microbreweries are turning out today.

    These days, there is simply no reason to drink Budweiser, PBR, Miller, or Coors. There are countless microbreweries now making — maybe not the best lagers and ales in the world, but brews that are definitely worth drinking. Beers with flavor, body, character, etc. Tastes vary and it is true that there is no accounting for taste (or the lack of it), so it is possible that American swill actually tastes good to some pitiable people. They probably think DONald Trump is going to save America. (I loved that London billboard.)

    If you want something that is stellar, you can find plenty to savor in Europe. Trappist monks in Belgium make some of the most delicious brews on the planet. But I don’t care what A-H calls its beer — piss by any other name would taste as rank.

  231. 231
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @TriassicSands: Calm down.

  232. 232
    Steeplejack says:


    So what would you recommend from your average, “pretty well stocked but not ‘GOP deep bench’” supermarket beer selection?

    I confessed to drinking a Dos Equis above because I’m currently in one of my beer slumps, brought on by the fact that my usual supermarket apparently monitors my buying habits and quits carrying any beer that I buy regularly or too enthusiastically. I don’t mind an inoffensive lager for casual sipping, but I try to find something that is at least a little interesting, readily available and not over $10–11 a six-pack.

    I was on a good run with Third Shift Amber Lager from Band of Brewers*, but the grocery stopped carrying it a month or two ago. They probably bought a pallet last year and were selling it to me and one other guy.

    Another that I remember from before Third Shift was Sam Adams Black Lager. I drank that for a year or so until it disappeared.

    So now I’m alternating among the Mexicans while I find something new.

    * I have seen some evidence on line that this outfit could be a front for Coors.

  233. 233
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Rolling Along: Actually, there is no record of him reporting in to the Massachusetts National Guard when he moved from Alabama to Mass to attend Harvard Business.

    He was still under a six year service obligation at the time. He just blew it off.

    Not being present for a muster for a period longer than 30 days is desertion. Especially if there is no intention ever to report in.

  234. 234
    PurpleGirl says:

    @SoupCatcher: I’ve had a Raz-ber-Rita: it wasn’t great, doubt I’ll buy again. OTOH the Lime-ber-Rita had a good strong lime taste and would be good with Tex-Mex food. I’ll probably buy that again, not often but at some time.

  235. 235
    PurpleGirl says:

    @NotMax: My father drank Ballintine. If I want beer now I go for Fosters or Sapphoro or Bass Ale. In college I liked to go to the English Pub on 6th Avenue for a Black & Tan (Bass Ale and Guinness Stout).

  236. 236
    TriassicSands says:


    I live in a small town in western Washington State and the supermarkets here have reasonably good selections of both imported and domestic microbrewery beers.

    Sadly, because I take opioids I no longer drink beer (I never drank wine or hard liquor), so my knowledge is no longer current.

    However, one ale I would recommend is made by Trappist monks in Belgium and amazingly it is stocked locally. It is called Chimay and there are three (or were fifteen years ago) varieties — a white label (good), a red label (now called Premiere — “the original” — great) and a blue label (Grande Reserve — too much alcohol for my taste).

    When I started drinking Chimay it was only available in 26oz. bottles (with a cork stopper). On the back of the bottles there was an international sign “warning” the drinker not to drink the ale from a pilsner glass (picture with the circle and diagonal bar through it), but instead to use a wide mouthed glass with a stem (that looked more like a wine glass).

    The Grande Reserve has an alcohol content of 9%. The current white label (I don’t think it is the same brew as the one with the white label I drank) is 8%, and the red label is a mere 7%. Drinking a single bottle of Grande Reserve might put many drinkers at risk were they to get behind the wheel immediately afterward.

    I just did a search and it appears that they are now selling smaller bottles and they have yet another label — gold — which has only 4.8% alcohol.

    There are other Trappist ales from breweries in Belgium that are also worth trying, but many of these are so distinctive that they may not appeal to everyone.

    While I was still living in Colorado, they opened the New Belgium Brewery in Ft. Collins and I liked their Fat Tire ale, but despite the name, their products are very different from those of the Chimay brand.

  237. 237
    Steeplejack says:


    Thanks for the feedback. I think I’ve had Fat Tire; don’t remember a strong reaction one way or the other. And I’ve seen Chimay—can’t remember if the supermarket carries it, but definitely at Total Wine.

  238. 238
    TriassicSands says:


    One beer that every masochist should try is called EKU 28 (we facetiously called it U-238). I can honestly say it was the worst beer I ever had. At the time I tried it, it was reputedly the second strongest beer in the world (its alcohol content is 11%).

    It is amazing to me, but there are critics who actually think EKU-28 is good. I tried it twice and on neither occasion was I able to drink even a small glass.

    Earlier, I came across the Beer Advocate on line and they rate beers. They have two ratings — one from BA (the Beer Advocate) and the other from “The Bros.”

    Here are the ratings for the three Chimays:
    Grande Reserve — BA = 95 (world class) The Bros = 90 (outstanding)
    Premiere — BA 92 (outstanding) The Bros = 97 (world class)
    Tripel (white label) — BA = 91 (outstanding) The Bros 95 (world class)

    I line up with The Bros (whoever or whatever they are), but obviously these are very fine beers. If you can find them, and have never tried a Trappist brewery’s beer, you should.

    Note: I don’t know if you live where there is a Safeway grocery store, but if they don’t stock it, they might order special order it.

    Oh, yes, be prepared for sticker shock. A 26oz bottle of Grande Reserve appears to be about $14-$15 at present. Not something you guzzle down on a hot July afternoon, but rather something to savor on cold December night (in front of fire?)

    There is now (as of 2015) a Grande Reserve Oak Aged ale — 10% alcohol.

  239. 239
    Steeplejack says:


    I’ve got a Safeway less than half a mile from me. I go there fairly often, but my usual place is Shoppers Food Warehouse, an infelicitously named local chain (NoVA) that is very good. Both are pretty well stocked with beers. I won’t special-order anything; it’s easier to motor out to Total Wine, where they have pretty much everything.

    Right now I’m just trying to replace Third Shift with something comparable as my no-brainer casual brewski.

  240. 240
    TriassicSands says:


    Chimay is definitely not a “no brainer casual brewski.”

    Good hunting.

  241. 241
    sherparick says:

    @J R in WV: Samuel Adams is not perfect, but at least they run a union shop.
    This was a very stupid move by InBev since all it will do is highlight that Annheiser-Busch is owned by a Brazilian Billionaire/ Private Equity Conglomerate that does give a rat’s ass about the quality of its product, its customers, or its workers, but simply worships the Milton Friedman/Ayn Rand code of maximizing shareholder value at the expense of anything else within the fuzzy bounds of the law (I think one reason for this change is get around the whole trademark dispute, allow InBev to sell the beer formerly known as Budweiser throughout Europe, and avoid having to pay licensing fees that might be owed if TIPP ever comes to be.

    Also, the reliable core of “Budweiser’s” market is southern white working class males. A lot of these guys serving in Germany would drink nothing else but Bud. So this may be InBev’s way of trying to further lock in the market in the age of Trump.

  242. 242
    Bitter Scribe says:

    @goblue72: I guess “Belgium” and “Brazil” tested poorly.

  243. 243
    Bitter Scribe says:

    @Steeplejack: Moose Drool. An unappetizing name for a terrific beer.

  244. 244
    Bitter Scribe says:

    Last month I visited a Bristol Farms supermarket in Newport Beach, Calif. Never saw so many luxury cars in one parking lot in my life. Anyway, they have this gigantic wall of beer–more than 300 varieties. Made me want to cry. They carry Budweiser and similar shit, but it’s relegated to one corner facing.

Comments are closed.