I’ll catch the Irish thing on demand.
I feel dirty I am rooting for Cersei Lannister over these fucking godbotherers.
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I’ll catch the Irish thing on demand.
I feel dirty I am rooting for Cersei Lannister over these fucking godbotherers.
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Mike J
@efgoldman: I watched the first three eps and was bored silly. Better pr0n, better violence free on the net. But I don’t begrudge anybody else’s idea of entertainment. Lots of stuff I love is absolutely moronic, but fun.
Dog Dawg Damn
Steep learning curve. Not for idle watching or those who are uncomfortable with disorientation.
Sometimes you aren’t supposed to know everything, and by sometimes, I mean usually.
Baud
@efgoldman: same here.
Villago Delenda Est
I understand why you’re feeling dirty (Cersei? That vile bitch that ordered the death of Lady, a much nicer bitch?) but godbotherers are utter irredeemable scum. So you go with the lesser of two evils.
bluehill
From the Prince thread – other musicians have been covering Prince in tribute (Coachella has had a lot). Some tributes aren’t surprising; some a little surprising, but this one by country star, Chris Stapleton, was completely unexpected at least for me. Just shows widely respected Prince is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVDPNQA17sM
redshirt
@efgoldman: The books were really fun for a while. The last couple dragged but you feel compelled to plow on.
I doubt we see another book anytime soon. GRRM is too enamored of his celebrity and the NY Jets/Giants.
Iowa Old Lady
The show has now gone past the end of the books, so I’m curious. We don’t watch, mostly because we don’t get HBO, but also because even when I can catch episodes, the violence is too much for me.
Mary G
I love GOT and I am psyched to see what happens past the point of the books .
gf120581
@Villago Delenda Est: Said head godbotherer is played by Jonathan Pryce, though, which makes it more difficult.
Plus, I hate Cersei’s guts.
NotMax
@Baud
Ditto.
Keith P.
@efgoldman: I’ve watched it from day 1. Felt it was one of the best premieres HBO has done. I’m really emotionally invested in it; the first extended white walker scene just about stopped my heart, and Hardhome last season blew my mind.
Mathguy
Read the first three books and tossed them in disgust. I got bored, didn’t care for the style, nor the prepubescent children having an adult understanding of the world. Nice that others really love it. FSM knows I like some stuff that others thinks stupid, and may well be.
David Fud
@Villago Delenda Est: Rooting for many injuries, myself.
Mnemosyne
@Iowa Old Lady:
I think I made it to the end of season three before I had to give up for the same reason — the torture porn just got to be too much.
The funny thing is, my 80-year-old aunt LOVES it. Loves the books, loves the show, fears that Martin won’t finish the books before she dies. She’s got a stronger stomach than me, apparently.
Emma
Add me to the ones who can’t understand the attraction. I have this quirk when reading fiction — there must be at least one person I can identify with ( I did try to read the first one). There’s not one of those bloody-minded maniacs that I wouldn’t pitch over the side from a height of several miles. So…
I will say that I am impressed by what I have seen of the visuals. Amazing.
BruceFromOhio
@bluehill: that was fun, the harmonica was a nice touch. Inspired me to to get out sineads version, and even had TeenFromOhio singing along. Glorious.
Poopyman
Meh. never got into GOT. Morning is coming, so I’d better start getting ready for the coming week. Been listening to these kids lately, for whatever reason. I love the tunes, and really love her voice.
How is it that so many Jewish-Americans play Irish music, and so many Irish-Americans play Klezmer? Discuss.
schrodinger's cat
No has HBO, my favorite currently on air TV show is The Americans
RobertDSC-Quad Intel Mac
I read the first five books, but the story was a bit thick for me to follow completely. Never gave the show a shot as the genre isn’t really my thing. A friend had recommended the books to me, so I followed through. I liked them, but they don’t set me afire for re-reads.
redshirt
Anyone watch(ed) the show “Spartacus”? If you’re looking for an even more violent/porny show, give it a look.
Iowa Old Lady
@Mnemosyne: I’ve read the books. I find it easier to deal with the violence there. If I have to, I can skim. And I admire Martin’s achievement. I just can’t watch it.
I actually met Martin at a writer’s workshop. After his talk, all the workshoppers went out to lunch and I wound up sitting at his table. Connie Willlis was there too, and she told this funny story about GRRM signing books years ago at World Con. He was signing at the same time as Douglas Adams, who had come out with one of his Hitchhiker books that year, and the line for Adams went out the door and around the block, while GRRM had nobody. That was bad enough, but then one of the organizers got a bullhorn and walked along calling “No waiting for George Martin. No waiting for George Martin.” Bet that hasn’t happened lately.
Adam L Silverman
@Poopyman: Irish, Jewish, ends in an “ish”.
ruemara
No HBO, so I haven’t seen more than the first 5 eps. A friend had a pre-FX in screener, so we had a watching party. I had huge problems with the role of women, although I do grant it is more historically accurate for the periods it’s based on than I may like to admit. GoT and Walking Dead all have the same problem for me; if I start to hate everyone in the story, I stop watching. I would never read the books now. I’m damned sure I hate everyone. Rather read a wiki synopsis.
I replaced the battery on my non working car. Still doesn’t work, but the battery is very pretty. And I cleaned the contacts of the old battery very well. At this point, I feel pride in futile accomplishments counts.
Uncle Cosmo
@Mathguy: A couple of years ago I was wandering through The Book Thing, Baltimore’s free book exchange (now sadly in abeyance after an early-morning late-winter fire destroyed at least 100,000 volumes) & came upon a pristine trade-paper edition of A Game of Thrones. I snatched it up, spirited it home, cracked it open–
–& a few days later, circa page 320, looked up & thought, Wait a goddamned minute. What am I doing? I don’t give a flying fuck about a single solitary character in this interminable tome!
And took it back to The Book Thing. YMMV.
joel hanes
@redshirt:
I doubt we see another book anytime soon.
For those who are deeply engaged, I can recommend GRRM’s A Knight Of The Seven Kingdoms, which I just shelled out for in hardback, three linked previously-published novellas in one volume. These are set in Westeros a century before the life of Ned Stark, and they’re some of the “Ser Duncan The Tall” stories Old Nan has told to four generations of young Stark boys.
Dork
@efgoldman: these GOT peeps are as bad as the Breaking Bad fanboize. Both shows are/were insipid and banal. Both shows are farcical. But how dare we opine these thoughts to the minions, lest we get troll-labeled.
Gimmie a Forensic Files marathon and Im straight.
Joel
Odd to find myself being contrary here, but I like Game of Thrones, books and show. Last season left me wanting in places, so I’m a little worried about how this one will go…
Iowa Old Lady
@joel hanes: I read that. It was charming, which is an odd word to use for a GRRM book, but it was.
elftx
Just saw this on twitter
‘Me and Mrs. Jones’ singer Billy Paul dead at age 80
I am feeling old..that came out in ’72, it seems like just yesterday
Mike in NC
Can anybody explain why network TV has so many shitty sitcoms (2 Broke Sluts, Dr Ken, etc.) that still use moronic 1950s style laugh tracks? Shows that are actually funny don’t need them. Don’t say they’re “filmed before a live audience” because that is pure bullshit.
dexwood
@redshirt:
That may be true. I don’t know. I’ve not read the series nor seen the show. i do know from local news, social media, and acquaintances how busy he is with other projects. He has saved a great old Santa Fe theater, opened a new interactive gallery in a restored bowling alley, and participates in local events frequently. He is busy. My guess? He might be bored with GoT.
Keith G
@Mnemosyne: Well, for me it’s not torture porn as much as it is those god-awful heterosexual sex scenes. But during the worst of it I can avert my eyes or maybe hit the mute button and then I get back to it in a few minutes. Either way, it doesn’t take that much time in a 55 min episode.
On the whole, it’s a pretty fantastic a bit of visual storytelling.
Tonight was a bit bloodier than I thought it would be, but it was not overly so. I was hoping that some of the ones who were victims would be around for a bit longer so I could see them in a more developed story line.
It was a good opening.
Keith G
@Dork:
Do tell.
I somehow missed the spot where that happened here.
Firebert
So buy a sweater.
EriktheRed
I am too, but I expect the feeling to pass pretty soon.
WaterGirl
@dexwood: I suspect you didn’t see my late answer to your powdery mildew question from the sort-of garden thread this morning. (copied below for your convenience)
Mnemosyne
@Keith G:
I think it’s fair to say that hetero sex scenes are usually not staged for the preferences of either gay men or straight women. I’m not particularly interested in naked boobs, and yet that’s 90 percent of what they give me to look at.
kindness
The first episode filled in blanks but not a whole lot of pushing the story forward much. Doesn’t matter. I’ll watch again next week.
rikyrah
Have never seen GOT. One of these days it will wind up on Netflix or Amazon prime video, and I will see it then.
dexwood
@WaterGirl:
Thank you. No, I didn’t see it. I did try this particular remedy last summer. It didn’t work. Got me some damn tough mildew out here in the high desert.
Joel
@Mnemosyne: the sex in game of thrones is terrible. A throwback to the “Skinemax” days. Spoken from a heterosexual male, albeit one over 16 years old, so clearly not the target audience.
Timurid
@redshirt:
It’s basically the live action version of “Itchy and Scratchy.”
redshirt
@Timurid: Heh. They’re is a lot of fighting. But way more sex than in Itchy and Scratchy.
The Fat Kate Middleton
@rikyrah: Seasons 1 – 5 are on Netflix. DVD only, I believe. And, yes, I love it.
Drunkenhausfrau
Our household is an unrepentant GoT fan zone! Actually cheered when Sansa was saved…creeped out by the godbotherers and hope Diana rigg takes them out! Also, really want to see ghost rip off Thorne’s face!
Prescott Cactus
@Adam L Silverman: Tis a fine thing
Fair Economist
I loved the books, but avoided the TV series because torture and brutality are far worse to watch that read about. My husband, however, hates reading and loved the show when he got introduced to it last year. So, I got drafted into watching the new season with him. I’m eager to see the story continue, especially with a team that’s actually committed to finishing it, but dreading the gore. Not tonight though, because we don’t have HBO and have to wait for it to come out on Amazon.
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
As do Spanish and Danish. Why don’t they rhyme?!?!?!?
Doug R
Shame!
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Poopyman: @Adam L Silverman: I have an atheistish friend from Vancouver who’s in a Klezmer band. Her husband collects literary Judaica. Does that count?
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: They ain’t poets?
max
@redshirt: Anyone watch(ed) the show “Spartacus”? If you’re looking for an even more violent/porny show, give it a look.
Watched a couple of episodes, gave up. Gratuitous sex massive compared to GOT. Story tissue-paper thin.
@ruemara: I had huge problems with the role of women, although I do grant it is more historically accurate for the periods it’s based on than I may like to admit.
Honestly think the sex and violence pretty toned down from second half of 1400’s. Since it’s based on the War of the Roses, thus middle/late medieval Great Britain actual time period, well, that’s coming from a country that killed a purportedly gay king by (purportedly) shoving a white hot poker up his ass.
I replaced the battery on my non working car. Still doesn’t work, but the battery is very pretty. And I cleaned the contacts of the old battery very well. At this point, I feel pride in futile accomplishments counts.
If you no power/lights with new battery, you either have a burned out fusible link or a dead computer. If you have lights and power, and no starter noise, the starter is dead/malfunction. If you have starter noise but no ignition you have a spark system problem (very model dependent). And if the car starts and runs and then dies and won’t crank, or the charge meter in the dash is negative, then you have a dying alternator/generator/voltage regulator. (GM’s and Chrysler’s have the voltage regulator in the alternator, old old Fords have a separate voltage regulator, many other cars have VR in the alternator. Depends on make model. Can ask at parts store.)
Anyways, I watched Grantchester. And then I’m gonna watch GoT after I get finished with this hockey game, but in any event, in two weeks Penny Dreadful.
max
[‘Consider this kicker a placeholder for a tweetstorm on the Hobbesian nature of history and the Rousseauian (?) nature of civilization, and the inability of people to grasp the scale of the shift.’]
Chip Daniels
Rooting for the cold evil queen over the smug self righteous revolutionaries?
Hmm…
SFAW
@Adam L Silverman:
“Goldberg, iceberg — what’s the difference?”
Adam L Silverman
@Prescott Cactus: I used that with my parents when, in high school, I had to explain that my date that Saturday night’s last name was McCarthy.
redshirt
@Doug R: *rings bell.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: I don’t see why you couldn’t use either of those two too.
Adam L Silverman
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): sure, why not.
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
Why aren’t the Spanish from Spenmark? Why aren’t the Danish from Dain?
Mike J
Since I only watch like every fourth Simpsons,can somebody tell me why Ned Flanders’ wife is alive?
redshirt
@Mike J: She is? Hi-diddly-do!
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: Ain’t nobody’s business but the Turks.
ruemara
@max: OK. This is a volvo. Not sure if I can change an alternator myself. MY stepfather is also thinking it’s the ignition coil.
Mike J
@redshirt: It seems to be a flashback to pre Maggie days.
Omnes Omnibus
@ruemara: I have a Saab. My parents had a Volvo for a long time. I advise taking it to a dealership. the cars last for ever if well maintained, but they are expensive to work on.
xenos
@elftx: Papa Wemva died yesterday, too. Damn. I don’t think all these people should live a few extra decades for my convenience, but I am getting rather put out by the last few months.
EBT
I hear the show basically erased the nonsensicle fifth book?
Sasha
Then root for injuries.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@ruemara: Do you have an ODB II port under the dash? Do you have a friend with a scanner? There are places online that let you interpret the Codes. Maybe it’ll have some clues.
Good luck.
Cheers,
Scott.
Sasha
From fanservice to fandisservice in less than 20 seconds!
ruemara
My import auto shop had it for days and couldn’t get an error code. Taak, Max, Omnes & I’mNotSure. I’m in a pickle. If it’s going to be expensive, I might as well get a newer car, since this is a 1995 with nearly 300k miles on it. But I feel unsure about that, since I don’t plan to be in this area longer than another year & a car payment would be an additional uncertainty. And the down payment would eat my film budget for the summer. I could do a GoFundMe, but I don’t have much luck with those things. Lots to think about.
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
If you’ve a date in Constantinople, she’ll be waiting in Istanbul.
Omnes Omnibus
@ruemara: See what’s really wrong and how much it will cost to fix. Then game out the cost of a replacement vs. the potential costs of keeping the old one going. I tend to resole shoes, etc. YMMV,
ruemara
@Omnes Omnibus: True.
patroclus
I love GOT. Tyrion is my obvious favorite, though I’ve been missing Bram and Rickon. I wasn’t expecting the Dorne prince to die in quite the way he did. Good season premiere – everyone seems to having trouble though. I’m thinking Jon Snow is gonna make a comeback – that direwolf licked up his blood. The red woman looks pretty old.
SFAW
@SiubhanDuinne:
Then they’d be dwarvish, not Danish.
Apologies for the cheesy comment.
Omnes Omnibus
@SFAW: Dain was a dwarf not a place.
SFAW
@ruemara:
and
These statements seem incongruous: if it’s something as simple as an alternator or a coil replacement, then I would think that not getting a code should not be an obstacle to competent mechanics. They should be able to diagnose a coil or alternator problem for a 1995 car without plugging in to the port.
Standard disclaimer: not a mechanic, don’t play one on TV, etc.
SFAW
@Omnes Omnibus:
Gee, thanks for mansplaining that to me. And here I was thinking that “Dain Ironfoot” was a place like the “boot” of Italy, only with more metal.
“Danish from Dain” (SiubhanDuinne’s phrasing) can be parsed/interpreted in more than one way, by the way.
redshirt
@SFAW: I believe that’s “Tolkiensplaining”.
SFAW
@redshirt:
Doesn’t quite flow, but point taken.
eclare
@Mnemosyne: agree, only made it halfway through first. Hope you caught LMM on Oliver!
Omnes Omnibus
@SFAW: @SFAW: @redshirt: It was pedantry. Jebus.
sherparick
@gf120581: Like most things in GoT, it is complicated.
Although the remaining books and the TV show will likely end at the same place, I think how they get there will be very different. (I think the whole Dorne story for one will be very different in the books for one thing.)
Starfish
@Uncle Cosmo: Oh no. That is so sad about The Book Thing.
SFAW
@Omnes Omnibus:
Pedantry? Must have a different meaning in the Land of Cheeseheads.
And I believe the proper speling is “Jeebus,” but that may be a geographic thing, too.
ellie
Me too! And Cersei scares the crap out of me.
Paul in KY
Am going to assume that letting Cersei go back to the Red Keep was a mistake. Also, doesn’t High Sparrow look somewhat like Pope Francis? Do not think that was inadvertent.
Paul in KY
Haven’t seen the episode yet, but assume Red Witch brought John Snow back to life. If that drunk Thoros of Myr could do it, I assume she could do it.
Even better would have been if they forgot to burn his body & he becomes a white walker.
Paul in KY
@Iowa Old Lady: By end of 5th season, there were many plot points that diverged from books. IMO, most of them superior to what was in the books.
Paul in KY
@Joel: Very sad about poor Sheeren’s murder. Was sorry Ramsey didn’t get his hands on Stannis.
No One You Know
@Iowa Old Lady: I like “seeing” the Wars of the Roses, and I like some of the “quotations” of other people; IIRC, Sancia of Aragon did marry Geoffrey of Naples (although I’m not sure that’s who Sansa Stark and Joffrey Lannister are emulating).
I especially like the emphasis on a lot of medieval issues re health, cultures, and what happens when law is subject to personal will–or theocratic interpretation.
And the trolls can go elsewhere: If you don’t like the thread topic, you can choose to read somewhere else. The fact that you have nothing to voice but contempt for the whole idea of the thread suggests you should have been a cast member of a contemptible sort.
DCF
Now there is a perfect 2016 election analogy – except, in this scenario, Cersei is winning….