Open Thread: New York Values Cruz…

… at a steep discount to self-valuation. (I think that’s how the finance bobbleheads would phrase it.) From the NYDN article:

Ted Cruz got the Bronx cheer Wednesday from angry New Yorkers upset over the Republican presidential candidate’s callous “New York values” crack and his harsh stance on immigration.

Cruz was crucified during a stop in the Bronx, where residents and elected leaders derided him for insulting the city and the borough, only to come crawling back begging for money and votes…

“You’re running on an anti-immigrant platform, and you’re speaking in the Bronx,” Rodrigo Venegas told Cruz. “You should not be here.”

Venegas was cheered like a Yankee slugger by fellow protesters after Republican Party staffers removed him from the restaurant…

Bronx Borough President Ruben Diaz Jr. slammed Cruz as a hypocrite earlier — just hours before Cruz met with his father in the Bronx. Ruben Diaz Sr. represents the area in the state Senate.

“Ted Cruz is a hypocrite. He not only offended New Yorkers, he offended Bronxites, and now he’s here today in New York and in the Bronx looking for money and votes,” Diaz Jr. said…

Cruz was hoping to do better in Brooklyn today — specifically, with the angry misogynists of the ultra-Orthodox community…

Not helping, so far:

106 replies
  1. 1
    redshirt says:

    Hey. I’m talking here!

  2. 2
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    O’Donnell, damn his eyes, played the old video of Trump flirting with Rudi in drag, which I had mercifully forgotten about.

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    Luthe says:

    I’m surprised Trump isn’t doing worse. The good folks of New York have been living with his BS at close range for years. You would think they would have had enough.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    Haredim supporting a Dominionist. Is it still considered April Fool’s?

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    Redshift says:

    @Luthe: Remember, this is a poll only of Republicans.

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    dr. bloor says:

    @Gin & Tonic: No, this particular bizarre symbiosis is a 24/7/365 show.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Gin & Tonic: They’re not very bright, defying the stereotypes.

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    Andy says:

    It doesn’t matter. When it comes down to the election, people will hold their nose and vote for Hillary. Just like in 2012 for Obama. Buyers remorse doesn’t come into play in politics in 4 short years.
    Romney, really?
    Again, whatever Republican is put up will be a hard sell to mainstream voters.
    The numbers for Sanders should not be discounted. Although in the end, President Clinton will be impeached, so it was for naught.
    I’m hoping for a great V.P. pick on her behalf.

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    SarahT says:

    @Gin & Tonic:As my Bubbe used to say, “They should go lie in shit until their heads sprout like onions” – sounded even more insulting in Yiddish.

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    trollhattan says:

    I do so love watching the Republican Party drown in its own bile ocean.

    Please continue, morons.

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    Suzanne says:

    I hate Ted Cruz and I hope that, if SOMEONE has to get ass cancer, it’s him.

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    AkaDad says:

    @Andy:

    Don’t be rediculous. Hillary isn’t going to be impeached, she’s obviously going to be indicted and incarcerated.

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    WarMunchkin says:

    ROSE: If Hillary Clinton is the nominee, you will be supporting her.

    SANDERS: I think the idea of a Donald Trump or Ted Cruz presidency would be an unmitigated disaster for this country. I will do everything in my power and work as hard as I can to make sure that doesn’t happen, and if Secretary Clinton is the nominee, I will certainly support her.


    (source)

  14. 14
    JCT says:

    “He loves Jews” — @tedcruz supporter Yoeli Weiss, at a matzoh factory, on why he supports Cruz for president.

    Yeah, Cruz probably loves Jews in a light cream sauce. Old Yoeli is a schmuck.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Oy vey!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @JCT: that would definitely be traife!

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    NR says:

    @trollhattan: Luckily for the Republicans, there’s a candidate running who will unify the GOP after it blows up this summer: Hillary Clinton.

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    David 🍁Canadian Anchor Baby🍁 Koch says:

    @WarMunchkin: Wow. I can’t believe Sanders would sell out Susan Sarandon and support Clinton.

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    Mai.naem.mobile says:

    @Suzanne: Even cancer is offended that you are mentioning it in relation to Ted Cruz’ ass.

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    redshirt says:

    I have come to love all the Jews. Hugs ‘n Kisses!

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    Andy says:

    @AkaDad: Stockade Redux? Full Definition of WITCH HUNT. 1 : a searching out for persecution of persons accused of witchcraft. 2 : the searching out and deliberate harassment of those (as political opponents) with unpopular views.

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    AkaDad says:

    “He loves Jews.”

    Unless they have Liberal values, of course.

  23. 23
    ecomcon says:

    @David 🍁Canadian Anchor Baby🍁 Koch:

    Susan Sarandon has more integrity than hipster wannabe Chris Hayes.

  24. 24
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @redshirt: Have you had your shots? Standard childhood diseases? Did you wash your hands?

  25. 25
    Prescott Cactus says:

    @WarMunchkin:

    That angry Bernie

    Will support and not divide

    Democrats is sweet

  26. 26
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @ecomcon: also more villas in Tuscany.

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    Andy says:

    @David 🍁Canadian Anchor Baby🍁 Koch:Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

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    Dog Dawg says:

    So what do you call “silly season” when it lasts an entire fucking year?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Andy: And professionals discuss logistics.

  31. 31
    Dog Dawg says:

    @srv:

    Well, Cruz sucks, but at least is staff doesn’t keep talking about the X-Files:

    You have no respect for micro-targeting.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @redshirt: Since I’m one of the potential hugees, I’ll be asking the questions here!

    For full disclosure: yes, yes, and just a few minutes ago when I brushed my teeth.

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    Andy says:

    @ecomcon: That dude had a great weekend show that was RUINED by his own network. Go back in time , beyond last night, and see the archives.
    True discourse was examined. More so than the norm.
    He has a family to support, so it was written, so shall it be done.

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    Bergman says:

    @Luthe: Oddly, he doesn’t seem like a real New Yorker in the sense that one feels him on the ground vs. a dude on TV in various forms for decades. Not sure what to compare it to. Back in the Spy days, yes, but not for awhile now. It’s almost like his show moved to Burbank but kept the NY set? Something like that.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Andy: Not where I was going, but that would work, perhaps. Its an old military saying: “Amateurs talk tactics, professionals discuss logistics”.

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    Andy says:

    @Andy: Hillary Better Than UPS?? It’s logistics, bro….David Abney, who began his career as a part-time package loader while in college, serves as chief executive officer of UPS. David was appointed CEO in 2014, and is the 11th CEO in the 108-year history of UPS. He was unanimously appointed by the Board of Directors as Chairman in 2016.

    David previously served as chief operating officer since 2007, overseeing logistics, sustainability, engineering and all facets of the UPS transportation network. UPS’s global transportation network serves more than 220 countries and territories, and includes a ground fleet of more than 96,000 vehicles and an air fleet of more than 500 aircraft. UPS operates major air hubs in Louisville, Kentucky; Cologne, Germany; and Shenzhen, China.

    Before serving as COO, David was president of UPS International, leading the company’s strategic initiative to increase its global logistics capabilities. During his career, David was also involved in a number of global acquisitions that included the Fritz Companies, Stolica, Lynxs, and Sino-Trans in China.

    Earlier in his career, he served as president of SonicAir, a same-day delivery service that signaled UPS’s move into the service parts logistics sector. David began his UPS career in 1974 in a small facility in Greenwood, Mississippi, while attending Delta State University.

    In addition to his corporate responsibilities, David serves as a Trustee of The UPS Foundation and chairman of the World Affairs Council of Atlanta. He is also a member of the President’s Export Council, the Board of Directors of Johnson Controls, and the Business Roundtable.

    As Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, David serves on the UPS Board of Directors’ Executive Committee.

    A native of Greenwood, Miss., David earned a bachelor’s degree in business administration from Delta State University. He serves on the Board of Directors of the Delta State University Alumni Foundation. He and his wife, Sherry, sponsor the school’s annual symposium on international business.

    Logistics that work on a hands on level.
    I’m thinking Philly.

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    redshirt says:

    @LAO:Don’t let this deluge distract you.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @LAO: I more closely physically resemble whatever that thing is that is molesting Daffy Duck.

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    cbear says:

    @WarMunchkin: Try not to be so disruptive, wouldja? That kind of inflammatory information is neither needed nor appreciated around here.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    And on that note, I’m to bed! Everyone have a lovely night.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Andy: Your point as refutation of the Napoleon paraphrase?

  44. 44
    LAO says:

    @redshirt:
    @Adam L Silverman:

    Every time a rw christianist, says s/he loves Jews, I feel like poor “George”

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    NotMax says:

    I’ve been led to understand he was in Brighton Beach in Brooklyn, otherwise known now as Omsk-on-the-Atlantic.

  46. 46
    redshirt says:

    @cbear: I’ve actually spoken to the wardens of the night.

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    benw says:

    @Prescott Cactus:
    Once there was a Democratic party
    Whose support for each other seemed not hearty
    But against Trump or Cruz
    They didn’t dare to lose
    So their support in the general would not be tardy

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    NotMax says:

    @efgoldman

    Heh.

    Au jus, natch.

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    AkaDad says:

    @Andy:

    She’s not a witch. She’s us.

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    Mike J says:

    @LAO:

    Every time a rw christianist, says s/he loves Jews, I feel like poor “George”

    To make a christianist rw for owner, group and world, the command would be:
    chmod 666 christianist

    (unix joke)

  51. 51
    Andy says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”
    Oh, I’m sure we’ll win.

  52. 52
    Dog Dawg says:

    Ted Cruz is too ugly to be elected to President of the United States.

    He’s awkward, ugly, and decidedly unpresidential.

    You’d have to go back to Nixon to find an uglier specimen, and at least Nixon had a certain Chiseled seriousness that lent itself an air of authority.

    Cruz’ face has the shape of a two-day-old turd, kept moist by being left in the toilet unflushed.

  53. 53
    Timurid says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    They’re just sooooo excited about how they’re going to be Redshirts in the Apocalypse…

  54. 54
    trollhattan says:

    @NR:
    IF the GOP had any hope of stopping Hillary they would have done so with BenMailGhazi. So…nope.

  55. 55
    cbear says:

    @redshirt: Thanks. We don’t need outside agitators disrupting the party like that.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Andy: Well, that makes everything okay.

  57. 57
    Andy says:

    @AkaDad: Christine O’donnell was….IDK.
    But after the Ted Cruz election synopsis the other night, anyone could be Prez.
    It’s a joke. That’s what’s so funny here. No one really knows the best candidate for President, it’s just the bile that’s put forth.
    And then to even argue about such light weights and their viable merits is absurd.

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    Prescott Cactus says:

    @benw:

    Truer words not spoken

    Fail gunner or Trumpster fire

    Not for DC oath

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    cbear says:

    @Dog Dawg:
    Cruz’ face has the shape of a two-day-old turd, kept moist by being left in the toilet unflushed.

    I admire your turn of phrase and keen powers of observation—do you have a newsletter I might subscribe to?

  60. 60
    John S. says:

    @WarMunchkin:

    Unpossible.

    The BJ commentariat already decided that Bernfeeler was going to take his ball and go home. And probably endorse Trump. Or something.

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    Cacti says:

    @Andy:

    It doesn’t matter. When it comes down to the election, people will hold their nose and vote for Hillary. Just like in 2012 for Obama. Buyers remorse doesn’t come into play in politics in 4 short years.
    Romney, really?
    Again, whatever Republican is put up will be a hard sell to mainstream voters.
    The numbers for Sanders should not be discounted. Although in the end, President Clinton will be impeached, so it was for naught.
    I’m hoping for a great V.P. pick on her behalf.

    Was this intended for public consumption, or did you just type out the internal dialogue with the voices in your head and accidentally hit post comment?

  62. 62
    Prescott Cactus says:

    @trollhattan:

    IF the GOP had any hope of stopping Hillary they would have done so with BenMailGhazi. So…nope.

    FTFY
    WhitewaterPaulaJonesVinceFosterMonicaBenMailGhazi

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    Mike J says:

    Tomorrow’s wapo

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Prescott Cactus: I take it we have entered the obligatory haiku portion of the evening

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @John S.: Evidence?

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    Andy says:

    @Mike J: That’s good, a “Left Leaning” blog pushing WaPo editorial. You should be proud.
    It’s like 1995 here.

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    WarMunchkin says:

    @John S.: I had debated writing an incorrect transcript with the correct source, something like “I will not support Secretary Clinton under any circumstances”, just to see who took the bait, but I thought that giving people heart attacks was in poor spirit.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Related to the earlier thread, I really loved that thing you pointed out to the enraged person. I was reading through the thread and waiting for someone to say it. They had all signaled that it was their own communities they were speaking about.

    (I wasn’t sure about the reference to everyone having a relative in Chowchilla though. That went right over my head even though I’m familiar with both that place and the other area referenced by that poster)

  69. 69
    Andy says:

    @Cacti: You are a nonentity with your pushing of a fictional narrative of sexism from the Sanders campaign.
    I’m sure those that follow your postings will applaud your twistings of speech.
    Good Show, Chummie!

  70. 70
    Cacti says:

    @Andy:

    That’s good, a “Left Leaning” blog pushing WaPo editorial. You should be proud.
    It’s like 1995.

    Bernie’s inability to discuss policy beyond the level of slogans is an establishment conspiracy.

    The bourgeois press will be first up against the wall when the proletariat seize the means of production.

    ;-)

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    Prescott Cactus says:

    @opiejeanne:
    Optional for now.
    11pm Pacific (today) / 3pm Toyko (tomorrow) we go obligatory.

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    Cacti says:

    @Mike J:

    The revolutionary army is taking it pretty hard that the generalissimo has been exposed as the campus radical who never grew up.

    But fear not. They’ll be back with new and devastating hashtags.

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    JCT says:

    @efgoldman: Indeed, that was the point!

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    Prescott Cactus says:

    @opiejeanne:

    Related to the earlier thread, I really loved that thing you pointed out to the enraged person.

    Oh, Omnes Omnibus

    Brings peace to those needing it

    Causing little pain

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    Mike E says:

    @Cacti:

    Was this intended for public consumption, or did you just type out the internal dialogue with the voices in your head and accidentally hit post comment?

    Forget it, Jake… It’s the internet

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    Prescott Cactus says:

    @WarMunchkin: It was perfect click bait. I was actually surprised and thrilled.
    Then I started thinking “is this from 2008?”

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Prescott Cactus:
    I must up my game
    Too long have I neglected
    Lovely haiku form

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Prescott Cactus:
    Omnes gently
    points out error of enraged
    bows out gracefully.

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    BR says:

    @WarMunchkin:

    Good to hear Sanders say that. I was beginning to lose faith in him over the past few days.

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    Prescott Cactus says:

    @opiejeanne: by Prescott Cactus

    Your game is very up
    Hidden is not neglected
    sharp mind, sharp poem

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    eemom says:

    Haikus some dumb shit
    No fucking point I can see
    In five seven five

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    Prescott Cactus says:

    @eemom:

    Heretic, blasphème
    Who sees no reason or rhyme
    Yet haikus to you

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    Mike J says:

    @Andy: We all know what fans of Hillary Clinton (or as some would have it, “The Clintons” ) the Washington Post is.

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    AkaDad says:

    I suck at haikus
    They are for clever people
    Which I am so not

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Juliet Eilperin ‏@ eilperin 44m44 minutes ago
    “I say to folks, ‘we cannot be complacent, & we cannot be cynical, because the stakes are too high.'” @ POTUS
    58m58 minutes ago
    Ds tell @ POTUS they will miss him & aren’t excited about the 16 race “And I say, ‘I have no patience for that.”
    1h1 hour ago
    “What’s at stake right now is how our democracy functions.” @ POTUS at @ dccc fundraiser in LA

    I’ll admit it, I remember enough of ’08 that it’ll make me chuckle if HRC needs BHO to help her over the finish line.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @eemom:
    eemom cuts through shit
    like knife gliding through butter
    bad analogy?

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    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I remembered Rudy in drag, I forgot it was opposite Trump.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @AkaDad:

    words connecting words
    aka dad does it well
    he’s clever enough

    (sorry, that sucked)

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    sinnedbackwards says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    I’ll suggest huggee;
    hard gee declines the Trump trope
    and brings trees to mind.

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    Prescott Cactus says:

    @AkaDad:

    Haiku is within
    No cleverness is needed
    Skill is growing it

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    trollhattan says:

    Ninaaaa, nooooo!!!

    Guess who just watched the latest “The Americans?”

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    Prescott Cactus says:

    @opiejeanne:

    bad analogy
    if we will share loaf of bread
    otherwise, ok

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    Prescott Cactus says:

    @opiejeanne:

    (sorry, that sucked)

    No one hurt badly
    nothing sucks in a Haiku
    Much feeling and expression

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    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @efgoldman: Failgunner is kosher?

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    Prescott Cactus says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: True. The PUMA’s. The bickering. Thankfully we have (oh geez) hope, that ours is the better path.

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    AkaDad says:

    Lustily jeering
    It is what my girlfriends do
    When I get undressed

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    sm*t cl*de says:

    Cruz was crucified during a stop in the Bronx

    A win-win situation.

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    prob50 says:

    @efgoldman:

    The haredim are OK because they’ll go to Israel to be vaporized in Armageddon and save his pasty christofascist ass. The rest of us? Not so much.

    To be loved because of your supposed role in a lunatic wet dream of mass annihilation does not give me the warm fuzzy’s. Who the hell would want to willingly associate with people who regard you as some sort of recipe ingredient or plot device? Go be friends with somebody else.

    These folks remind me of Twilight Zone aliens in the “To Serve Man”episode.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Dog Dawg:
    Someone here nailed it:
    Rafael Cruz has a face for a Criminal Minds episode.😠

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    John S. says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    You’re joking, right? If you have been reading the Clinton/Sanders pie fights here over the last few days – pick any thread really – you’ll find ample evidence of this ludicrous sentiment.

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    Woodrowfan says:

    @Andy: ‘Never murder a man who is committing suicide.”

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    boatboy_srq says:

    @Luthe: This is NY Republicans we’re discussing here. Considering the alternatives, it’s surprising Trump isn’t more popular.

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    misterpuff says:

    @JCT: With a little Chianti and Fava Beans.

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    xian says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: i look forard to obama, biden, warren, michele, bernie, and bill clinton all campaigning for hillary and see no problem with that.

    hillary helped obama win by unifying the party behind him in ’08

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