what is scary about all of this shit… is that 40% of registered voters believe any of these guys are qualified to be President of the United States and you can thank our fucking horse race ratings based media for making concepts like letting people die without health care and deporting millions of people living here for the crime of being born in another country as serious policy decisions. It’s one thing to be a raving fucking nutball, but its something else even more sinister to give that fucker a megaphone, a soapbox and pretend to take them seriously.
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mclaren
So if Donald Trump becomes president, does that make the Oval Office the world’s greatest pen!s enhancer?
They got him on that. He was sweating. The development story is even worse than Trump University, BTW. It goes to how Trump puts his name on developments but doesn’t build or own them. That’s the big scam.
Is anyone going to ask Kasich why he keeps saying Ohio is booming yet at the same time people are living in basements? His two strands don’t make any sense. “Obama’s America is terrible! Ohio is doing great!” Two Americas.
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PsiFighter37
Looks like the establishment is waking up to do a hit job on Trump.
If this is what their hysteria looks like, what happens if Trump wins over the weekend and on Tuesday next week? This meltdown and attempt to mind-control their base is so transparent.
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dmsilev
@Baud: It’s not too late. You can offer courses in virtual campaigning. Free staff members!
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JPL
@Kay: Asking Kasich a follow up is not good for ratings.
@Kay: Those are the two that can do him in, if used correctly on attack.
I think no one’s thought to press Kasich on his giant Ohio fail because the Trump fight is sucking all the air out of the room, inside and out of the debate arena. He’s an afterthought.
We have to worry about him. If Kasich wins Ohio and Rubio loses Florida and Ted Cruz is still ghoulish and hated by all, Kasich is the last ditch nominee. That could happen. He’s still 5 points down from Trump in Ohio, so we’re okay so far :)
Frank Luntz tweeted that the #1 word his focus group used to describe the debate was “embarrassing”
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PsiFighter37
That was such a bullshit answer on Flint from Marco. All those Republicans cheering Snyder are heartless.
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Corner Stone
Kasich is really spreading the BS thick now.
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piratedan
@mclaren: no, look at the independents as well, you can’t tell me that the vast majority of them vote Dem. Unless there’s a three way race, the GOP nominee is going to pull, at a minimum, 40% of the vote.
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superpredators4hillary
Wanna see Trump hydrate Rubio with a water pistol. Wanna see Rubio like it.
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BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Can’t use the anteater, UC Irvine has that. Their cheer, ZOT!
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PsiFighter37
Where are the gotcha visual aids for Kasich?
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BillinGlendaleCA
Kasich: “I’ll go quickly”. LMAO.
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Peale
@Renie: I believe Trump was snookered. Took. Had. Blindsided. Outwitted. It looks like someone leaked that Fox made a decision To back him, when the opposite was true. Donald got in the front seat of the car. Also too, I think the NYT with their off the record conversation…hmmmm.
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Corner Stone
This is the whitest audience that could ever possibly convene in Detroit. For God’s fucking sake.
I get so angry when he brags about the “surplus” when I think how much he cut from public schools. They cut from 2009 to 2011 and then he cut half of their budgets again, this past budget year, after the recovery. He’s stealing from schools to create that “surplus”.
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BillinGlendaleCA
Hey Ted, since ObamaCare; unemployment has gone down.
@Corner Stone: You know, I’m from Detroit, lived right in the city as a kid and for my first ten years as a homeowner, and I had that thought too. I read it was in the old Fox Theater too, for god’s sake. Right downtown.
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amk
I hope enough voters are turned off by the clusterfuck kkklownshow that they turn up in Nov.
Each debate beats the ‘this is worst debate I have seen in my life’ contest.
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Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: I’m amazed they got them to come downtown after dark. Supposedly they’re scared to death of the denizens of that area, which is why they all live in the suburbs and exurbs.
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Mai.naem.mobile
Trump is going to make sure he gets Megyn Kelly audited by the IRS if he becomes President and it’ll be during her time of the month.
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Corner Stone
Tenthers Unite!
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Just Some Fuckhead
Brilliant pitch from Kasich on common sense. Old white conservatives eat that shit up. There ain’t nothing you can’t solve with common sense.
He lies constantly. Earlier he said “we raise the minimum wage every year”. “We” do, but only because it went to a ballot referendum in 2006. “We” won. I think he was at Lehman Brothers then.
@Mai.naem.mobile: not only will she be audited, she’ll be there when the IRS is put on mothballs, trapping her in the examination room for eternity.
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Adam L Silverman
So serious question, based on this gay marriage question to Governor Kasich: I’m not married, never been married, been to maybe three or weddings ever (and one was my brother’s). When you order your wedding cake or hire your caterer or photographer are you paying these people to provide a service for you or are you actually inviting them to participate in your wedding?
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Steve in the ATL
@Kay: I have to believe that once Kasich get some exposure, people will really dislike him. Isn’t that the usual pattern with him?
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Corner Stone
Fox is so absolutely in the tank going after Trump this is going to completely piss off his voters. Can’t wait.
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Joel
@Steve in the ATL: I’ll say this, Kasich is a sneaky motherfucker. I’m keeping an eye out for him.
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Corner Stone
I wish Trump would turn and punch Cruz in the fucking face.
Ok, to be honest, I wish anyone would turn and punch Ted Cruz in the fucking face.
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PsiFighter37
The crowd sounded like they got shocked that Trump said he supported the assault gun ban in 2000.
Definitely feel like he might take a noticeable hit from this. He sounds a bit deflated as well.
I remember back in the good old days of the Starr Report, when it was supposed to be shameful that details of the President’s penis were discussed in public. Now the candidates are bragging about theirs on national TV. I guess we really are oversharing everything these days.
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Corner Stone
Why does Cruz think keep telling Trump to pause is a winning move?
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BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman: In Republican speak, if you have to go to the wedding to provide a service you become a participant. It’s icky to have to be around THOSE PEOPLE.
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PsiFighter37
Ted being a real asshole to Trump now. That’s two times he’s condescended down to hairpiece tonight.
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the Conster, la Citoyenne
There is no better case for a woman president than this display of white male hyper-masculine idiocy. If Idiocracy and Porky’s had a baby, it would be this GOP debate disgrace.
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dmsilev
Oh goody, foreign policy coming up.
Bombs away!
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Adam L Silverman
Senator Rubio, the original 2nd Amendment was removed in the Senate after the House sent the Bill of Rights over – the original 2nd Amendment prohibited Congress voting itself a pay raise. They also revised the language to what was actually included in the finalized Bill of Rights. It wasn’t made the 2nd Amendment for any good reason other than some of the ones sent over by the House after they approved the Bill of Rights were rejected or combined by the Senate before they passed it.
I wish anyone would turn and punch Ted Cruz in the fucking face.
It would be delightful if it were Ms. Kelly.
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a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Kay: And he’ll never really admit how much Medicaid expansion contributed. Which is really why he did it, of course.
@Steve in the ATL: He is really brittle and snappish. Thin skin and flippant is not pretty, and while he’s not a bully like Big Donald or Big Christie, he’s reactively mean.
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japa21
Just saw my first Rubio commercial here in Chicago. Basically focused on Trump not condemning the KKK. But the closing shot is just horrible. It makes Rubio look like a smug ass.
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Adam L Silverman
@BillinGlendaleCA: I get that part, it just really doesn’t make much sense to me.
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PsiFighter37
@Felonius Monk: I’d prefer Donald. His poll numbers would go up if he did it. Not sure the arrest would be worth it, though…
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Renie
@Corner Stone: their FB page is full of anti-fox pro-trump comments
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Just Some Fuckhead
@Adam L Silverman: We made our photographer attend the wedding because we thought he could get better pictures of the ceremony that way.
Now for the twist: our wedding photographer was gay and the wedding was in a Fundamentalist Baptist Church. Thank goodness he didn’t pull that religious freedom shit.
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superpredators4hillary
Kasich breaks it up like Sarah McLachlan commercial.
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a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Adam L Silverman: With a big contingent from Treasury, also too.
I’m wondering if Trump walked over to Cruz and tripped him as he walked away from the podium. Is Trumps bouncer Chris Christie there to Tonya Harding Cruz’s knee?
He is really brittle and snappish. Thin skin and flippant is not pretty, and while he’s not a bully like Big Donald or Big Christie, he’s reactively mean.
That was his reputation in Columbus when I was there.
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Betty Cracker
Sweet babby Jebus, did Cruz just resurrect Reagan’s Star Wars fantasy?
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bluehill
Assuming that Trump is not elected, there could be some benefit. People have pointed out that some of the things he says he believes or says he believes go against conservative tenets and I think his followers agree with him or are willing to follow him. Just the notion that it is acceptable to change your mind is always an issue for politicians but more so it seems with repubs because of the silly purity pledges they are forced to make.
Trump is the catalyst causing the average repub voter to look at what their party has done for them. It’s going on the dem side too, but the contrast between promises and actions is much greater on the repub side.
There is a disquieting feeling of unrest in the air. I think a kind of revolution is coming via the ballot box this year and the aftermath offers both reason for optimism as well as dread.
No, not really. He came in great guns and immediately went after labor unions. There was a ballot referendum and his big marquee 1st term anti-labor law was overturned by popular vote. 65% “no”. I think that was real check on him – he’s not stupid and he’s not a Scott Walker true believer. It was humiliating. He got more moderate. The economy got much better as he was approaching reelect. He was easily elected to a second term. He’s terrible on 3 things- abortion, education and the environment.
He doesn’t concern me except for the scenario where Rubio loses FL and Kasich wins OH, because then he has a good argument at the convention, if they knock out Trump. That’s remote but it could happen. He’s not doing well in the MICHIGAN primary (polling) though so all he’s got is Ohio.
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Mary G
This debate is boring compared to the last few. I don’t think it’s going to change many minds.
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beltane
@Betty Cracker: He did this in a previous debate as well. He also said we were in danger of North Korea disrupting the earth’s magnetic field.
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a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Omnes Omnibus: I saw him at a conference early last summer and he looks really old and worn up close. And slightly annoyed was his resting face that day. He did not seem at all in good health.
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beltane
@Mary G: It is boring. The best debates were when Trump went after Jeb.
Well since you were clueless (and remain clueless) on why Cruz was doing it your opinion doesn’t really count for anything.
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Just Some Fuckhead
@bluehill: Old people don’t revolt. They die and change comes slowly.
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Adam L Silverman
Here’s what Kim Jong Un actually said today about North Korea’s nuclear posture:
He said North Korea “must always be ready to fire our nuclear warheads at any time” because enemies were threatening the North’s survival.
“At an extreme time when the Americans… are urging war and disaster on other countries and people, the only way to defend our sovereignty and right to live is to bolster our nuclear capability,” he was quoted as saying.
And he’ll never really admit how much Medicaid expansion contributed. Which is really why he did it, of course.
I think the Medicaid expansion might be profound as far as how people think about government-provided insurance. It’s amazing how it got absorbed into “well, of course we all get health insurance!” after all that fuss. They are never going to be able to repeal it :)
Ted Cruz spends entire debate making case that Trump is really a liberal Democrat and shouldn’t nominee, then says he will support him if he gets the nomination. There went the vaunted prosecutor’s case.
I don’t know. Building trades endorsed him in his re-elect, but Democrats had a really weak candidate and they thought it was better to join him, which turned out to be smart. That whole 2010 anti-labor mania just wasn’t broadly popular in this state. I helped on the referendum to repeal the anti-union law here and there were lots and lots of county Republicans at meetings. It was a well-run campaign. We had a national AFL-CIO organizer they sent, he stayed for weeks, and we only have 30k people in the whole county. He kept it strictly non-partisan. Labor people felt it would lose if it became a D v R issue or if national Democrats got involved, especially Obama.
From the older thread regarding the gentleman that introduced President Obama today in Milwaukee – perhaps the autoimmune disorder he had that was possibly cured by surgery was myasthenia gravis. That can be treated with thymectomy. Also possibly ulcerative colitis. That can be treated by complete colectomy.
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Betty Cracker
@Steve in the ATL: It just seemed weird that he acted that way in Trump’s presence. But maybe that’s how he always is.
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Corner Stone
@Betty Cracker: No, I mention some of the same in the Try That Again thread. O’Reilly was really bringing his BS on in an attempt to get Trump to blow up on camera.
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a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@JCJ: I was probably too hung up on “cured.” And IANAMD though I teach intermittently at a med school. Thanks for pointing those out.
Me too sista, me too. So many LULZ go home with that guy. Mother stabbing, grain pyramids, fruit salad brain surgeon who wanted to be president. You couldn’t make any of this shit up in your wildest dreams.
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Gretchen
@Adam L Silverman: @Adam L Silverman: @Adam L Silverman: For my daughter’s wedding, the photographer started taking pictures as everyone was getting ready for the wedding, throughout the wedding and most of the reception: first dance, cutting the cake, throwing the bouquet. The caterer was there for the first part of the reception serving the dinner. The cake baker came to the reception, set up, cut, and served the cake. So, yes, in a sense they were all pretty involved in the reception, and the photographer in the wedding as well.
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Trinity
John Cole…prescient.
Felonius Monk
How come no moment of silence to honor Ben Carson?
Just Some Fuckhead
He already pulled out his penis and shook it but no one noticed. But supposedly he has excellent oral gifts.
schrodinger's cat
Who is actually watching this train wreck?
Just Some Fuckhead
I attended Trump University. I became terrific with success and some people say I am the best with money.
Just Some Fuckhead
Sheesh, Megyn Kelly is angry for some reason this month.
inventor
@Just Some Fuckhead:
There’s a long tradition of Nigerian Royalty matriculating at Trump U.
PsiFighter37
Trump reverting to Lil Marco.
Devolution baby!
Just Some Fuckhead
Tonight’s Debate Winner: Ben Carson!
GregB
Thank God the Republicans are on their way to restoring dignity back to the White House.
Kay
@GregB:
It’s a minor fraud case! Minor!
PsiFighter37
Ted getting his smarmy asshole routine on.
mclaren
Q: If Donald Trump, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are in a boat and it capsizes far offshore, who survives?
A: America.
Q: Why is it a good idea to bury Donald Trump in a 20 foot hole and pour concrete in?
A: Because deep down, he’s a really great guy.
Q: When Donald Trump was visiting Sea World and fell in the shark tank, how did he survive?
A: Professional courtesy.
Renie
Rubio is so pathetic. Why is Fox attacking Trump so much? Ailes is not supporting Rubio anymore so who is Fox for.
Lolis
Let’s be real. Trump’s dick is not big enough to hit anyone with it.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Kay: I thought they were all yooooge. And classy. More flip-flopping!
Kay
@Renie:
I don’t know. I hope they all rally ’round Cruz.
piratedan
what is scary about all of this shit… is that 40% of registered voters believe any of these guys are qualified to be President of the United States and you can thank our fucking horse race ratings based media for making concepts like letting people die without health care and deporting millions of people living here for the crime of being born in another country as serious policy decisions. It’s one thing to be a raving fucking nutball, but its something else even more sinister to give that fucker a megaphone, a soapbox and pretend to take them seriously.
mclaren
So if Donald Trump becomes president, does that make the Oval Office the world’s greatest pen!s enhancer?
mclaren
@piratedan:
Not sure about that. Isn’t it closer to 40% of registered Republican primary voters? Which is something like 20% of the actual electorate?
dmsilev
Kasich answers are the perfect time to get up and go for a snack.
Baud
I should have strarted a university.
Jibeaux
Lawrence O’Donnell just said that Chris Christie’s approval rating is 27%.
It’s truly uncanny.
Baud
@Jibeaux: New Jersey, like Kansas, had their chance to do the right thing.
Kay
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
They got him on that. He was sweating. The development story is even worse than Trump University, BTW. It goes to how Trump puts his name on developments but doesn’t build or own them. That’s the big scam.
Is anyone going to ask Kasich why he keeps saying Ohio is booming yet at the same time people are living in basements? His two strands don’t make any sense. “Obama’s America is terrible! Ohio is doing great!” Two Americas.
PsiFighter37
Looks like the establishment is waking up to do a hit job on Trump.
If this is what their hysteria looks like, what happens if Trump wins over the weekend and on Tuesday next week? This meltdown and attempt to mind-control their base is so transparent.
dmsilev
@Baud: It’s not too late. You can offer courses in virtual campaigning. Free staff members!
JPL
@Kay: Asking Kasich a follow up is not good for ratings.
Just Some Fuckhead
@dmsilev: lol
Baud
@dmsilev:
Baud U!
All I need is a mascot.
PsiFighter37
ZOMG, a question about Flint? I’m actually shocked.
BillinGlendaleCA
Wow, they did get to Flint.
dmsilev
@Baud: Cole has some pets you could use.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Kay: Those are the two that can do him in, if used correctly on attack.
I think no one’s thought to press Kasich on his giant Ohio fail because the Trump fight is sucking all the air out of the room, inside and out of the debate arena. He’s an afterthought.
Kay
@dmsilev:
We have to worry about him. If Kasich wins Ohio and Rubio loses Florida and Ted Cruz is still ghoulish and hated by all, Kasich is the last ditch nominee. That could happen. He’s still 5 points down from Trump in Ohio, so we’re okay so far :)
Baud
@Kay: I’ll say a prayer for you.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Kay: LO’D had some of the victims of the Trump “development” in Mexico last night.
Iowa Old Lady
Frank Luntz tweeted that the #1 word his focus group used to describe the debate was “embarrassing”
PsiFighter37
That was such a bullshit answer on Flint from Marco. All those Republicans cheering Snyder are heartless.
Corner Stone
Kasich is really spreading the BS thick now.
piratedan
@mclaren: no, look at the independents as well, you can’t tell me that the vast majority of them vote Dem. Unless there’s a three way race, the GOP nominee is going to pull, at a minimum, 40% of the vote.
superpredators4hillary
Wanna see Trump hydrate Rubio with a water pistol. Wanna see Rubio like it.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Can’t use the anteater, UC Irvine has that. Their cheer, ZOT!
PsiFighter37
Where are the gotcha visual aids for Kasich?
BillinGlendaleCA
Kasich: “I’ll go quickly”. LMAO.
Peale
@Renie: I believe Trump was snookered. Took. Had. Blindsided. Outwitted. It looks like someone leaked that Fox made a decision To back him, when the opposite was true. Donald got in the front seat of the car. Also too, I think the NYT with their off the record conversation…hmmmm.
Corner Stone
This is the whitest audience that could ever possibly convene in Detroit. For God’s fucking sake.
Iowa Old Lady
Oh dear. Someone check Kay’s blood pressure. Kasich babbling about schools in Ohio.
Corner Stone
Ted Cruz is the fucking worst.
p.a.
@Baud: Keeping with part of tonight’s theme, here’s the RISD mascot, if you need ideas.
Kay
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
I get so angry when he brags about the “surplus” when I think how much he cut from public schools. They cut from 2009 to 2011 and then he cut half of their budgets again, this past budget year, after the recovery. He’s stealing from schools to create that “surplus”.
BillinGlendaleCA
Hey Ted, since ObamaCare; unemployment has gone down.
Iowa Old Lady
@Corner Stone: You know, I’m from Detroit, lived right in the city as a kid and for my first ten years as a homeowner, and I had that thought too. I read it was in the old Fox Theater too, for god’s sake. Right downtown.
amk
I hope enough voters are turned off by the clusterfuck kkklownshow that they turn up in Nov.
Corner Stone
“Faith leaders”?
Just Some Fuckhead
@Corner Stone: They were bussed in from the UP.
SiubhanDuinne
Cruz: “32% differential = level playing field.”
Okay, then. Knew I should have paid more attention in math class.
GregB
@Iowa Old Lady:
Were they looking at Frank’s toupee?
amk
Each debate beats the ‘this is worst debate I have seen in my life’ contest.
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: I’m amazed they got them to come downtown after dark. Supposedly they’re scared to death of the denizens of that area, which is why they all live in the suburbs and exurbs.
Mai.naem.mobile
Trump is going to make sure he gets Megyn Kelly audited by the IRS if he becomes President and it’ll be during her time of the month.
Corner Stone
Tenthers Unite!
Just Some Fuckhead
Brilliant pitch from Kasich on common sense. Old white conservatives eat that shit up. There ain’t nothing you can’t solve with common sense.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: A sloth.
Kay
@Iowa Old Lady:
He lies constantly. Earlier he said “we raise the minimum wage every year”. “We” do, but only because it went to a ballot referendum in 2006. “We” won. I think he was at Lehman Brothers then.
Felonius Monk
@Baud:
Just say you did. Nobody will know the difference. Just do what Trump did.
PsiFighter37
@amk: Just think that you will have to wait only 1 more week to get another dumpster fire of a debate!
Corner Stone
@Adam L Silverman: Probably police escorts brought a convoy in.
beltane
At CPAC they’re all drunk and screaming at each other.
BillinGlendaleCA
Wait, Ted says we can compromise on MARGINAL TAX RATES? I thought you were proposing a FLAT TAX.
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: That would be my guess.
Renie
can’t decide who is the most annoying tonight?
Peale
@Mai.naem.mobile: not only will she be audited, she’ll be there when the IRS is put on mothballs, trapping her in the examination room for eternity.
Adam L Silverman
So serious question, based on this gay marriage question to Governor Kasich: I’m not married, never been married, been to maybe three or weddings ever (and one was my brother’s). When you order your wedding cake or hire your caterer or photographer are you paying these people to provide a service for you or are you actually inviting them to participate in your wedding?
Steve in the ATL
@Kay: I have to believe that once Kasich get some exposure, people will really dislike him. Isn’t that the usual pattern with him?
Corner Stone
Fox is so absolutely in the tank going after Trump this is going to completely piss off his voters. Can’t wait.
Joel
@Steve in the ATL: I’ll say this, Kasich is a sneaky motherfucker. I’m keeping an eye out for him.
Corner Stone
I wish Trump would turn and punch Cruz in the fucking face.
Ok, to be honest, I wish anyone would turn and punch Ted Cruz in the fucking face.
PsiFighter37
The crowd sounded like they got shocked that Trump said he supported the assault gun ban in 2000.
Definitely feel like he might take a noticeable hit from this. He sounds a bit deflated as well.
Roger Moore
I remember back in the good old days of the Starr Report, when it was supposed to be shameful that details of the President’s penis were discussed in public. Now the candidates are bragging about theirs on national TV. I guess we really are oversharing everything these days.
Corner Stone
Why does Cruz think keep telling Trump to pause is a winning move?
BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman: In Republican speak, if you have to go to the wedding to provide a service you become a participant. It’s icky to have to be around THOSE PEOPLE.
PsiFighter37
Ted being a real asshole to Trump now. That’s two times he’s condescended down to hairpiece tonight.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
There is no better case for a woman president than this display of white male hyper-masculine idiocy. If Idiocracy and Porky’s had a baby, it would be this GOP debate disgrace.
dmsilev
Oh goody, foreign policy coming up.
Bombs away!
Adam L Silverman
Senator Rubio, the original 2nd Amendment was removed in the Senate after the House sent the Bill of Rights over – the original 2nd Amendment prohibited Congress voting itself a pay raise. They also revised the language to what was actually included in the finalized Bill of Rights. It wasn’t made the 2nd Amendment for any good reason other than some of the ones sent over by the House after they approved the Bill of Rights were rejected or combined by the Senate before they passed it.
Its only the 2nd Amendment by accident.
Felonius Monk
@Corner Stone:
It would be delightful if it were Ms. Kelly.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Kay: And he’ll never really admit how much Medicaid expansion contributed. Which is really why he did it, of course.
@Steve in the ATL: He is really brittle and snappish. Thin skin and flippant is not pretty, and while he’s not a bully like Big Donald or Big Christie, he’s reactively mean.
japa21
Just saw my first Rubio commercial here in Chicago. Basically focused on Trump not condemning the KKK. But the closing shot is just horrible. It makes Rubio look like a smug ass.
Adam L Silverman
@BillinGlendaleCA: I get that part, it just really doesn’t make much sense to me.
PsiFighter37
@Felonius Monk: I’d prefer Donald. His poll numbers would go up if he did it. Not sure the arrest would be worth it, though…
Renie
@Corner Stone: their FB page is full of anti-fox pro-trump comments
Just Some Fuckhead
@Adam L Silverman: We made our photographer attend the wedding because we thought he could get better pictures of the ceremony that way.
Now for the twist: our wedding photographer was gay and the wedding was in a Fundamentalist Baptist Church. Thank goodness he didn’t pull that religious freedom shit.
superpredators4hillary
Kasich breaks it up like Sarah McLachlan commercial.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Adam L Silverman: With a big contingent from Treasury, also too.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman: You can’t apply logic to Republicans.
Mai.naem.mobile
I’m wondering if Trump walked over to Cruz and tripped him as he walked away from the podium. Is Trumps bouncer Chris Christie there to Tonya Harding Cruz’s knee?
Mandalay
@Corner Stone:
Because comments like that are all about exerting power, being in control, and having the upper hand. And they work.
SATSQ
Mai.naem.mobile
Shit,they didn’t fix Lil Marco’s hair during the break.
Adam L Silverman
@Just Some Fuckhead: I’m surprised no one burst into flames!
Corner Stone
@Mandalay: Bullshit.
Omnes Omnibus
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
That was his reputation in Columbus when I was there.
Betty Cracker
Sweet babby Jebus, did Cruz just resurrect Reagan’s Star Wars fantasy?
bluehill
Assuming that Trump is not elected, there could be some benefit. People have pointed out that some of the things he says he believes or says he believes go against conservative tenets and I think his followers agree with him or are willing to follow him. Just the notion that it is acceptable to change your mind is always an issue for politicians but more so it seems with repubs because of the silly purity pledges they are forced to make.
Trump is the catalyst causing the average repub voter to look at what their party has done for them. It’s going on the dem side too, but the contrast between promises and actions is much greater on the repub side.
There is a disquieting feeling of unrest in the air. I think a kind of revolution is coming via the ballot box this year and the aftermath offers both reason for optimism as well as dread.
Kay
@Steve in the ATL:
No, not really. He came in great guns and immediately went after labor unions. There was a ballot referendum and his big marquee 1st term anti-labor law was overturned by popular vote. 65% “no”. I think that was real check on him – he’s not stupid and he’s not a Scott Walker true believer. It was humiliating. He got more moderate. The economy got much better as he was approaching reelect. He was easily elected to a second term. He’s terrible on 3 things- abortion, education and the environment.
He doesn’t concern me except for the scenario where Rubio loses FL and Kasich wins OH, because then he has a good argument at the convention, if they knock out Trump. That’s remote but it could happen. He’s not doing well in the MICHIGAN primary (polling) though so all he’s got is Ohio.
Mary G
This debate is boring compared to the last few. I don’t think it’s going to change many minds.
beltane
@Betty Cracker: He did this in a previous debate as well. He also said we were in danger of North Korea disrupting the earth’s magnetic field.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Omnes Omnibus: I saw him at a conference early last summer and he looks really old and worn up close. And slightly annoyed was his resting face that day. He did not seem at all in good health.
beltane
@Mary G: It is boring. The best debates were when Trump went after Jeb.
Mandalay
@Corner Stone:
Well since you were clueless (and remain clueless) on why Cruz was doing it your opinion doesn’t really count for anything.
Just Some Fuckhead
@bluehill: Old people don’t revolt. They die and change comes slowly.
Adam L Silverman
Here’s what Kim Jong Un actually said today about North Korea’s nuclear posture:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35723070
Steve in the ATL
@Kay: That makes sense, and explains why Ohio hasn’t gone right to work like its neighbors
Kay
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
I think the Medicaid expansion might be profound as far as how people think about government-provided insurance. It’s amazing how it got absorbed into “well, of course we all get health insurance!” after all that fuss. They are never going to be able to repeal it :)
Mary G
I miss Ben Carson.
Corner Stone
@Mandalay: Fuck you, moran.
Just Some Fuckhead
Ted Cruz spends entire debate making case that Trump is really a liberal Democrat and shouldn’t nominee, then says he will support him if he gets the nomination. There went the vaunted prosecutor’s case.
Corner Stone
Fox trying to trap Trump one last time.
Felonius Monk
@Mary G:
I do, too. It was always entertaining to see if he would stay awake long enough to answer a question.
Kathleen
@Adam L Silverman: They’re holograms.
NotMax
@Just Some Fuckhead
On the contrary, have been acquainted with some old people who are positively revolting.
Kay
@Steve in the ATL:
Kathleen
@Just Some Fuckhead: I thought Trump suggested that would be Mitt Romney.
Omnes Omnibus
@Kathleen: Is Jem there?
Adam L Silverman
@Kathleen: I could buy that.
SiubhanDuinne
@Felonius Monk:
Somebody earlier today basically said that Carson = The Dormouse in Alice in Wonderland. “Treacle!” A perfect analogy.
Steve in the ATL
@Kay:
Is that because he believes it or because he doesn’t think it’s politically expedient?
Betty Cracker
Wow, O’Reilly was super creepy with Trump in the post-debate encounter. And weirdly lecherous toward Trump’s wife.
Steve in the ATL
@Betty Cracker: Did you mean to say “O’Reilly was typically lecherous”?
Oldgold
I forgot Kasich was President in the 90s.
Kay
@Steve in the ATL:
I don’t know. Building trades endorsed him in his re-elect, but Democrats had a really weak candidate and they thought it was better to join him, which turned out to be smart. That whole 2010 anti-labor mania just wasn’t broadly popular in this state. I helped on the referendum to repeal the anti-union law here and there were lots and lots of county Republicans at meetings. It was a well-run campaign. We had a national AFL-CIO organizer they sent, he stayed for weeks, and we only have 30k people in the whole county. He kept it strictly non-partisan. Labor people felt it would lose if it became a D v R issue or if national Democrats got involved, especially Obama.
JCJ
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
From the older thread regarding the gentleman that introduced President Obama today in Milwaukee – perhaps the autoimmune disorder he had that was possibly cured by surgery was myasthenia gravis. That can be treated with thymectomy. Also possibly ulcerative colitis. That can be treated by complete colectomy.
Betty Cracker
@Steve in the ATL: It just seemed weird that he acted that way in Trump’s presence. But maybe that’s how he always is.
Corner Stone
@Betty Cracker: No, I mention some of the same in the Try That Again thread. O’Reilly was really bringing his BS on in an attempt to get Trump to blow up on camera.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@JCJ: I was probably too hung up on “cured.” And IANAMD though I teach intermittently at a med school. Thanks for pointing those out.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Mary G:
Me too sista, me too. So many LULZ go home with that guy. Mother stabbing, grain pyramids, fruit salad brain surgeon who wanted to be president. You couldn’t make any of this shit up in your wildest dreams.
Gretchen
@Adam L Silverman: @Adam L Silverman: @Adam L Silverman: For my daughter’s wedding, the photographer started taking pictures as everyone was getting ready for the wedding, throughout the wedding and most of the reception: first dance, cutting the cake, throwing the bouquet. The caterer was there for the first part of the reception serving the dinner. The cake baker came to the reception, set up, cut, and served the cake. So, yes, in a sense they were all pretty involved in the reception, and the photographer in the wedding as well.