Connoisseurs of schadenfreude should head on over to NRO’s Corner blog and take a gander at how the Trumpenproletariat in comments are feasting on the doughy entrails of Jonah and the gang. The author of “Liberal Fascism” is getting an object lesson in the real fucking deal these days, though he lacks the self-awareness to appreciate the irony.
If Goldberg and crew weren’t the horrid people who ginned up the mob in the first place, pity might actually be possible, especially when these worthies attempt a timid assertion among their newly hostile audience, such as that it really shouldn’t be so hard for Trump to immediately and unambiguously denounce the Klan.
It doesn’t go well, even though Goldberg clears his throat by affirming that of course liberals are the real racists, but come one guys, can’t we agree David Duke and the KKK are, you know, bad? And isn’t it kinda terrible that Trump insults us conservatives by thinking we’d be offended if he denounced the Klan? Here’s a few sample replies:
Anymore – blacks and browns are the majority of toxic racists in the US. America needs a lot less black and brown. America is traditionally a non-Mexicali, Non-Africali, non-Midestracali stronghold. Look – Black and brown people aren’t as smart as white people by a mile – all the tests prove it.
So let me guess, the GOP establishment is going after trump because he won’t disavow the KKK. I simply think the GOP Establishment is race bating Donald Trump to bring him down and it’s not working. It may have worked in the past but this Donald Trump and none of the tactics that the GOP Establishment have, has NOT worked on Donald Trump and they are simply running out of options. Sooner or later the GOP establishment is going to have to wake up and realize that Trump is taking over the GOP and tossing the old guard to the curb.
I haven’t decided who I will vote for in November but NR has convinced me of one thing. I will vote against whoever the NR endorses. A vote against NR is a vote for America. #NoMoreNR
You’re making a fool of yourself, Jonah, as are all your NR friends.
It’s all so amusing until you realize that when wingnuts work out their pathologies on the world stage, it has potentially horrendous consequences for all of us. Much as how the Bushes’ daddy issues therapy sessions had such an appallingly high body count.
Anyhoo, against that backdrop, there’s just not enough popcorn in the world for tonight’s GOP debate. I know I’ve been saying I hope Trump dropkicks Lil’ Marco from Detroit clear to a gator and python-infested swamp in the Everglades because — did I mention I despise that smarmy little jumped-up ex-Bushling creep?
But now I’m wondering if maybe the empire will strike back with limited success tonight, taking Trump down a peg or two, and whether that might be a good thing in the long run. I don’t think we libs should underestimate Trump, but let’s not make him 10 feet tall and bulletproof in our minds either.
Trump is a crass, thin-skinned carnival barking fraud, and even the vile Cruz and nonentity Rubio should be able to score a few points. So I’m rooting for maximum disarray and investing in popcorn futures. You?
Ready
Singer and the Hedge Fund Boys are on their way to put out that fire with a big hose shooting out cold, hard cash!
Chyron HR
Mmmm, midestracali.
Lolis
TPM is reporting that Trump reached out to Paul Ryan to discuss the GOP agenda. This is great because Trump will take more extreme positions to win over the establishment and Clinton can use it to point out the BS behind his anti-establishment posturing. Trump is going to make a lot of mistakes and flip flop all over the place. Republicans will make sure of it.
Eric U.
@Ready: is the cash being delivered to the pump feeding the hose in Brinks trucks?
Baud
Baud! 2016!: Standing Athwart History Yelling Get The F*ck Out Of The Way!!!
Bill
Didn’t we have a thread here yesterday in which some insisted Trumps success is not about racism?
WarMunchkin
Siiiick title.
Jeffro
I’m just hoping Rubio or Cruz or Kaisch can do this right…deploy something along the lines of:
– We know you’re angry and Donald gives a voice to that. But he’s giving voice to a lot of racists and bigots and un-American sentiments. You don’t have to go along with him and compromise your American values
– We know you’re concerned about good paying American jobs going away…so please don’t get behind someone who not only outsources his own clothing label to China (while pretending to bang on China) but also imports hundreds if not thousands of illegal workers and pockets the savings
– We know you want genuine leadership…and that can’t come from someone who sells fake diplomas, fake timeshares and condos, fake wrestling, fake everything.
Or am I just helping Hillary sketch out some good attacks here? Because Rubio, Cruz, and Kaisch will never fall on their swords in time to stop Trump from winning the nom. Rubio will have to get out after 3/15, but even then, it’ll be too late.
The Republic, Blah Blah Blah...
At this point, it appears that Cruz’s big sales pitch is something along the lines of, “Yeah, I’m an assh*le but the OTHER guy is even a bigger assh*le, so vote for me…”
The lesser of two assh*les… simply astonishing…
Southern Goth
@Eric U.: Someone needs to reprogram it so that it waits a random amount of posts before posting.
Scout211
I agree that letting Marco try to damage Trump by his angry stand-up comedy act might be helpful to the eventual Democratic nominee.
I really don’t agree with Democrats who plan to vote for Trump in the open primaries. I don’t think his popularity needs any more of a boost.
EconWatcher
It is of course a choice between arsenic and anthrax. But I would take a Trump presidency before a Cruz or Rubio presidency.
With either of those latter two, you would end up with a united GOP, likely controlling all three branches, conducting a cold and efficient dismantling of every civilized feature in this society.
With Trump, I’d expect four years of chaos and humiliation on the world stage, during which I would have to claim to be Canadian. (I live outside the U.S.) But I think much less irreparable damage would be done.
Let’s hope all of this is hypothetical.
Chris
As I recall, a non-trivial part of the National Review’s agenda (or at least its founder William F. Buckley’s) when it was founded was to consign the John Birchers and other lunatics who were too crazy to be taken out in public to the outer darkness. The National Review crowd believed basically all the same things, but came at them from a genteel, well-dressed, properly brought up, patrician perspective.
The National Review vs. John Birch Society conflict is still going on, and by the look of it, the arrogant snobs in the former are losing. Badly. There’s some entertainment value in watching them get torn to shreds in their own comments section by the very people they thought they’d banished.
Mr. Twister
@Bill: Weren’t we also told not to make too big of a deal about how much of a factor racism is in American politics.
Calouste
Racism and bigotry are very American sentiments and values.
Betty Cracker
@Bill: I don’t think anyone here would deny that racism plays a yuuuuuge role in Trump’s rise. Some folks (including myself, FWIW) think it’s not that quite that simple, though — other factors are at play, including the decades-long rogering of the working class. Trump’s more genteel predecessors used coded racism to obscure that, but now Trump is offering the racism straight up and without the “eat your vegetables” austerity bullshit.
Just Some Fuckhead
Be warned that we have a fierce gang that will terrorize the Trumpscairts.
Ready
@Eric U.:
It ain’t Brinks Tucks this time–it’s “Helicopter Paul” Singer dropping the dollars from 1,000 feet on anything and everything that’s anti-Trump!!
Jeffro
I’m still trying to figure out if I can watch a live feed of the Romney speech quietly at work…maybe if I close the door and pretend I’m on an important call? I just cannot miss this – it is Popcorn City. Popcorn City, squared.
Darn you, campaigns, for coming along every two years and killing my productivity!
Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class
I swear to God, Betty, if it were in my power to get you admitted to a Rubio Meet and Greet, I would, just for video of the occasion.
MattF
I’m definitely not going to watch it. That said, note that, e.g., Der Trump has come out with a ‘health care’ policy that actually will result in people dying in the streets. So, what we have here is the usual R crap, but in a more entertaining format. I don’t expect anyone on stage or in the media to make this point.
chopper
a conservative is a fellow who stands athwart history yelling “derp!”
OzarkHillbilly
Trump has yet to reach the magical 27%.
Thoroughly Pizzled
There’s a high school in Detroit’s Midtown named after Ben Carson. He was a local hero. I wonder if he dropped out of the debate tonight out of shame.
geg6
@Mr. Twister:
Yes, to both you and Bill. That’s exactly what our progressive betters told us yesterday. It’s about class anger, not racial anger. Those poor white GOPers are just pissed at the DLC, which was apparently a front organization funded by Goldman Sachs for Hillary’s future run for the presidency. Or some such nonsense.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Jeffro:
Here’s a sneak quote: “There are 47 percent of Republicans who will vote for Trump no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it — that that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. … These are people who pay no income tax. … [M]y job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”
amk
zombies eating the villagers. love it.
OzarkHillbilly
@Ready: Like turkeys at Thanksgiving!
Petorado
Me thinks the old rule that Republicans will all fall in line for the general election may not apply to this one. After eight years of denigrating a blah president, I don’t think the NR denouncing overt racism is helping to get the band back together.
p.a.
@amk: Unpossible. Zombies eat brains. Villagers lack em.
Linda Featheringill
But Trump is not a fraud. He is what he sounds like he is. One thing that makes him dangerous is that he comes across as more honest than any politician out there, including my favorites.
I don’t think this is because of good character on his part. I think that it’s because he has no shame, no guilt about anything. He’s probably a sociopath.
When his followers say that he doesn’t lie to them, they’re correct.
Compare his bombasitic statements to the carefully prepared propaganda and carefully concealed evasion that we so often hear and you will see why he’s such a formidable adversary.
Ready
Trump is about to be shown who the REAL billionaires are by the Hedge Fund Boys.
If worse comes to worse, our backup plan is Romney parachutes in just before the California primary to stop Trump short of a majority by taking Cali. Remember, Romney lives in La Jolla! And the Hedge Fund Boys will provide saturated coverage of Cali th markets!
oldgold
The more the GOP establishment attacks Trump the stronger he will become. The attack proves and reinforces what the base is pissed off about. That is that the GOP establishment does not listen to them.
schrodinger's cat
Trump is beatable. I think the most logical thing for GOP to do would be to go along with a Trump candidacy and then try to undermine him from within. Picking a public battle with him is going to be toxic for their brand, because their base loves him.
Snarki, child of Loki
The ONLY way that Rubio has any chance of getting to the nomination is if he hauls off and punches Trump at the Debate.
But Lil’Zipperboots is too wimpy to do that, so he’ll flame out and be forgotten.
MattF
@Linda Featheringill: I’d qualify that. Trump says what he actually thinks, at the moment he’s thinking it. A moment later, he’ll be thinking something else, and if some loser notices a change and complains about it, that’s just why he or she is a loser.
Betty Cracker
@Linda Featheringill: Gotta disagree with you there. Trump comes across as authentic only because of the blow-dried phonies who surround him, but he is a fraud. He’s not a self-made business genius — he’s a trust fund princeling and grifter. He lies all the time.
OzarkHillbilly
@Linda Featheringill:
link
Linda Featheringill
@MattF:
I agree with your refinement of what I said. Yes.
low-tech cyclist
As always, I’m rooting for whatever outcome sows the most confusion among my enemies.
I don’t regard Trump as 10 feet tall and bullet-proof. It’s just that a whole array of attacks on Trump are out of bounds if you’re a Republican, because you’ve been pulling the same crap as Trump all along – he’s just better at it.
Especially the angle of the sheer unrealism of his plans: that’s never stopped Republicans before. Anyone with any sense knows the Mexicans aren’t going to pay us to build a wall along the border, but anyone with any sense also knows that multi-trillion-dollar tax cuts can’t pay for themselves either. That doesn’t stop the GOP.
Woodrowfan
@OzarkHillbilly: with God as my witness, I thought villagers could fly!
Linda Featheringill
@Betty Cracker:
Is he running on being a business genius? Or is he just saying that he’s rich?
kindness
Enticing Betty but I really don’t know if I want to go slumming at NRO. You know, having to brain bleach after each visit makes it sucky.
Fair Economist
I just had a fairly scary thought. The Republican Establishment is trying to create a contested convention so they can nominate who they want, which will probably work if they can block Trump from a first-round win became most of the delegates are career political operatives. There’s actually a rule that the convention can only nominate somebody with some success in the campaign (delegates from 8 states or something like that). If Rubio loses Florida but Kasich wins Ohio Rubio will not be a very convincing candidate. In that case they might pick Kasich, who I think we all agree is their most dangerous candidate. Admittedly he’ll probably have a very pissed Trump coming after him but still, a disturbing possibility.
Roger Moore
@The Republic, Blah Blah Blah…:
Especially because being the greater asshole is exactly what Trump voters want.
Woodrowfan
@OzarkHillbilly: link not work. ;(
Hal
I don’t understand the question, and I won’t respond to it. Seriously, what the hell does this mean?
Kay
@Ready:
I was in Hillsdale, Michigan this morning. Not the area around the famous conservative college- the other part, where there’s little aluminum-sided houses and auto parts stores. I saw a LOT of Trump yard signs.
Why would those GOP voters like Marco Rubio?
CONGRATULATIONS!
I think the operative model for this election is the movie Animal House, with Trump playing Belushi’s part.
trollhattan
@Ready:
It would appear Jeb!’s rentboi has UNLIMITED SPARE TIME, amirite?
Ex Libris
@Chris: I think you’re right, and that has been the basic game these past 40 or 50 years – some yahoo bumpkin says something blatantly racist or fascist or just plain stupid, and then David Brooks or some equally hypocritical Member of the Club explains how that’s not really how we feel, even though in the long run, we don’t really disagree with the racist/fascist/stupid thing per se, but we just wish they said it more like WF Buckley would.
dedc79
Much of what i’ve seen over at NRO and other right-wing sites boils down to the following denialism: This is all the fault of liberals. They called Republicans racists for so long that the word lost all meaning. Now people don’t care what they’re called and they’re gravitating to Trump.
Betty Cracker
@Jeffro: Link to Rmoney speech here. CBS news is showing an embarrassing clip of Romney gushingly accepting Trump’s endorsement in 2012. Ha!
@Linda Featheringill: I built the most tremendous business! We’re gonna make such deals! I know how to win! Blah blah blah. Yeah, he’s running as a business genius.
Mr. Twister
@Betty Cracker: But how did the decades long rogering get started and become so strong ? After LBJ signed all the Civil Rights legislation. After that to a very large segment of the white working class Democrat became synonymous with “N-word lover”. At that point whites started voting for the party of the 1%’ers. Because of racism they have voted against their own self interests for almost 50 years now.
Parfigliano
I’m just glad I lived long enough to see the id, ego, and superego of the GOP tear itself apart….and be so self-unaware of how it happened
Just Some Fuckhead
@Linda Featheringill: Business genius. And he is, in a perverted way. He got bailed out of a 9 billion dollar debt by being too big to fail. With the exception of his name brand, his businesses and deals are either mediocre or outright failures.
But none of that matters when it comes to being President, if you believe all the conservative hype about Reagan, greatest president since Washington.
swkellogg
In retrospect it seems that the NRO and the other organs of Bowel Movement Conservatism’s best strategy would have been to portray Trump as the establishment choice.
Way too late for that though.
*sniff*
(wipes away non-existent tear.)
Citizen_X
@Ready:
Saying waaaayyyyyy too much about yourself there, buddy.
FlipYrWhig
@Linda Featheringill: As Betty Cracker just said, his entire sales pitch is (1) that he has bigger balls than anyone, (2) he knows how to make great deals (because of the ball size, mostly).
Betty Cracker
@Mr. Twister: I’m not disputing that. My point is there’s a complex interplay of factors. Attributing it 100% to racism is just as dumb as attributing it 100% to economics.
Ready
@Kay:
Because Singer and the Hedge Fund Boys will rip the bark the fuck off Trump with helicopter money, that’s why. Swiftboating 101.
Rommie
Tonight’s debate should be interesting. The Donald had to play it cool in the last one, before Super Tuesday, lest he err and give away wins. Now, he’s the proven front-runner. He doesn’t have to take the smarmy backhands from Mr. Canada and Little Roboto. I think we have the best chance of expletives uttered live we’ve ever known. Respect His Authoritah or face peril.
Kasich may come out of this with clean hands and the sane candidate. He’s also Rick Snyder, version Ohio, and I’ve seen that play already – it ends badly for anyone not on the GOP boat. So he’s no better than any of the other three in the long run.
Betty Cracker
God, Romney can even make a speech denouncing his party’s frontrunner boring.
Chris
@Ex Libris:
What’s really funny is that for all their bellyaching about “Political Correctness,” it’s never occurred to them that their followers might see the patronizing, condescending, head-patting “this is what Average Citizen John Johnson REALLY meant to say. He’s a good man, a hardworking man, a Christian and a patriot of the kind that built our country, but bless his heart, he’s just not the most articulate man sometimes” malarkey as part of the same phenomenon.
@dedc79:
Yeah, I suppose I could see how you could make that case.
Now, if the NRO and the rest would have the self-awareness to realize that the reason the name “socialist” isn’t sticking to Bernie like mud, or really having much of an impact in my generation, is because of the amount of times they’ve misused it in that way, then I might be impressed.
hedgehog the occasional commenter
@Ready: Meh. I prefer the Soggy Bottom Boys.
Citizen_X
@Hal: Wasn’t Midestracali recalled for serious side effects? ;-)
trollhattan
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Greatest since Washington, or greatest?
Hallowed be the name, Reagan.
Mr. Twister
@Betty Cracker: I never said 100%, but it should not be dismissed as it was by some yesterday. It is, to use the current vernacular, a yooooge factor.
Jim, Foolish LIteralist
@Betty Cracker: He finally started? I’ve had the phrase “molested by a dead sheep” on my mind every time I see that this is coming up
trollhattan
@Citizen_X:
Several severe cases of open, weeping jihadis.
OzarkHillbilly
@OzarkHillbilly: Linky no worky, try try again.
Kay
I know it’s bad and he’s dangerous but I can’t help but find it funny. A blistering letter! Work energetically!
Against their own base. Because they think their base is composed of morons and the base knows that now. How is anyone supposed to see this letter? In the Financial Times?
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
Mitt’s speech is on now.
Mittster’s not running. Not endorsing anyone either. He’s got a weird grin on his face. Talking about Reagan.
“A time for choosing”
“Innovation dynamic”
“Lucky crop of babies”
“The Aggressions of Putin”… He doesn’t do poetry very well.
“Improvident choices”
Don’t pick Trump. Trump would cause a “prolonged recession”. “He refuses to reform Entitlements”. He loves that word (remember how he spit it out in his 47% tape).
“A business genius he is not.”
“Flimsy prescriptions”
“You can’t punish business into doing what you want.” Hmm…
Some of the lights just failed.
Gotta team up to defeat Trump.
“Fueling the enmity of our adversaries”.
Light went back on.
“The most dangerous terror organization the world has ever known…” Hmm….
“Mocked a brilliant rival who happened to be a woman…” Hmmm…
“Evil Trumping Good.” Heh.
The BBC has Trump’s Twitter responses up on the same screen as Rmoney’s speech. Heh.
And so forth.
I don’t think Rmoney’s speech is going to have much of an impact, but who knows.
Cheers,
Scott.
CONGRATULATIONS!
Well, RMoney is doing his level best to get Trump the presidency. It’s like listening to a lecture by a second grade teacher on why the coolest kid in class is a jerk who will meet a bad end.
GregB
So how long before Chris Christie rushes the stage and goes Nancy Kerrigan on Mitt’s knee-caps with a knight-stick.
OzarkHillbilly
@CONGRATULATIONS!: “See if you can guess what I am now?”
schrodinger's cat
@Kay: It is funny, I love the morons vs. the credentialed morons of the GOP, civil war that is playing out for all of us to watch.
Chyron HR
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:
Thanks for nothing, Hedge Fund Boys.
slag
It’s telling that the buffoonery and overt racism have been turned up to eleven this election in that the only “establishment” Republicans apparently have to run against is radically reasonable governance and non-white people.
Barbara
@Fair Economist: No way. Rubio is their boy. They will not risk that much for someone like Kasich. Whether he is scary to us or not is not their guiding principle. The problem is, Kasich is too independent. He might buck the billionaires, which Rubio will NEVER do. That’s why they love him so much.
Just Some Fuckhead
Any historical precedents for a major party’s presidential nominee excoriating that party’s next most likely nominee? Maybe Teddy Roosevelt?
Tripod
The problem with parachuting in Romney, or any establishment stiff, is no matter how much money, is you still can’t beat somebody with nobody.
OzarkHillbilly
@Rommie:
You mean a RINO? Not seeing how that helps him.
CONGRATULATIONS!
Romney condemning Trump for being a “crony capitalist” may be the most unintentionally funny thing I’ve ever seen in my life.
Isobel
Cruz has even asked the others running to “prayerfully consider” dropping out so he can take on Trump – not going to happen. I’ll grab the popcorn.
Barbara
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: “He won’t reform entitlements.” I knew it would be in there. Does Mitt really not understand that’s a feature, not a bug, for the base?
sigaba
@Chyron HR: “Midestracali” sounds like an Italian desert on the Border Grill dinner menu.
Timurid
Italian buffet? And NRO is buying? I’m in!
FlipYrWhig
@Just Some Fuckhead: How did Nixon feel about Goldwater?
Barbara
@Tripod: Yep. If any of the others were strong enough, Trump would not be in the position that he is. At the end of the day, they are still weak candidates.
gene108
@Linda Featheringill:
Depends what your definition of is, is….but I digress…
He’s a conman.
Trump is very good at saying one thing that gets people thinking he’s on their side and then slipping by a 100 things that will make the filthy rich even richer.
His tax plan, for example, will tax hedge funds for carried interest, or some such, but is the biggest giveaway to the rich that’s ever happened; it dwarfs Bush, Jr.’s tax cuts.
He talks about Planned Parenthood being good, but slips in that he thinks we shouldn’t fund it it until they cut out doing the abortions.
He’s a fraud. He’s a conman. He’s saying whatever the hell he feels like, in order to get votes, with very little internal consistency.
Betty Cracker
@CONGRATULATIONS!: Right? And he also said Trump destroys companies, which was Romney’s fucking job!
sigaba
@Barbara: I heard T-Paw on NPR this morning. Two big points:
1) “I still think Rubio is going to win this thing”
2) “Trump voters are upset because Republicans promised to cut taxes and end entitlements, and they didn’t.”
This is what the Republican stalwarts are trying to sell. Basically the conservative policies they’ve been most successful at passing, and have hurt Trump supporters the most, they have not done enough of.
Van Buren
@Petorado: The issue isn’t that a few rules were broken, or whether some of us took liberties with our female guests…
Much better speech.
Miss Bianca
Romney’s making a speech against Trump? ROMNEY?
Seriously, in my best Miss Piggy voice: “Is that all you’ve got?!”
gene108
@schrodinger’s cat:
Trump’s not a life-long movement conservative Republican. The Republican Party can just say, “hey the voters went for someone outside the Party, and he lost. He was never a True Conservative…next time we’ll nominate a True Conservative and win!!!”
They pinned Bush, Jr.’s problems on being too liberal,, when he was considered the most openly conservative candidate to run for President, in 2000.
They’ll have no problem just sitting back, let Trump do his thing, and if he loses go, “too bad, so sad”.
Cruz or Rubio, on the hand, would be much harder to disown; if they got destroyed in the Presidential election.
Tripod
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Al Smith went purity progressive on FDR in 1936
Chris
@Barbara:
Wasn’t Kasich also the guy who not only supported the Medicaid expansion but said out loud that it was because he’d be able to look his creator in the eye and tell him what he’d done for “the least of me?”
scav
Judging only from headlines and past experience, I’m thinking that self-awareness is not exactly common over there, top to bottom, not even as a recognized potential aspiration.
Mike J
@geg6:
Having them yell about an org that hasn’t existed for 5 years is a step up from the one who complained about the DCCC being the power behind Hillary.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Mike J:
The DLC folded up their tent because they won.
Bill E Pilgrim
Good lord I just watched some of Romney’s remarks, this is amazing.
The thing is, Trump is almost certainly going to be the Republican nominee for President now, they’re deluding themselves if they think they can just override it through sheer bureaucratic and organizational will. They can’t even get one of the remaining competitors to drop out, Cruz and Rubio are still in it for themselves, each convinced that they’re the Messiah, even if the GOP establishment thinks they’re just naughty boys. Moreover, the people who Trump is rallying would revolt if he was just taken off the ticket somehow.
However, the people Trump is rallying don’t amount to remotely enough of a population to get him elected. He was going to get demolished in a general election in any case, but now they have people like Romney delivering entire speeches full of sound bytes about how Trump is an idiot, a fraud, a terrible businessman, and on and on. Hillary will only have to fill ads with the words of Republicans slagging off Trump.
They just keep being victim to their own delusions.
p.a.
@Timurid:
Cool your jets. NRO doesn’t use Fair Trade Certified Midestracali.
Jonny Scrum-half
A couple months ago I commented on several items over at National Review’s “The Corner.” I pushed-back on some of their arguments, but always in a substantive and non-troll-like way. I actually wanted to engage in a back-and-forth, in the hope of persuading at least some people with some facts. After several such posts, everything I tried to post was instantly deleted and I was banned as a troll, simply for making arguments that didn’t support their world-view.
Given that history, I find it fascinating that National Review hasn’t deleted the white-supremacist’s comment quoted in this post.
Linda Featheringill
@OzarkHillbilly:
Good diagnosis.
Sorry to be gone so long. I was called away for awhile.
OzarkHillbilly
OT: Liberal Supreme Court Justices Just Slammed Texas’ Abortion Restrictions
Don’t make too much of it, but even Kennedy got in on the fun.
bjacques
George R. R. Martin’s The Sandkings. Especially the ending.
D58826
Looks like a great white shark feeding frenzy. Time to throw a bit more chum in the water. Romney maybe?
Bill
@Betty Cracker:
I actually don’t disagree with this. But if the “rogering of the working class” was their main concern they’d be voting Democratic. They aren’t, which tells me that racism matters (and sexism, slut shaming
etc…) matters more to them than getting ahead financially.
ruemara
@Baud: I’m voting for Baud. Because, everyone else sucks.
Jesus, 2016 has turned into predator vs alien, no matter who wins, we lose. I think I’m going to get my passport & other papers together. I don’t know how long I have in this world, but it’s too short no matter how long to spend in one country. I seriously want to see Wales & Scotland. There’s clan castles up there to explore.
Villago Delenda Est
It is ALWAYS projection with these vile assholes.
ALWAYS.
OzarkHillbilly
@Linda Featheringill: You don’t have to apologize to me for not replying to a comment I have made. I have this really bad habit of allowing life to get in the way of my blog commenting. I’m just a bad boy that way.
Villago Delenda Est
@Bill: Or, they don’t understand the relationship between the two. Or their pride is more important than the future of their children.
Either way, they demonstrate that they deserve to be serfs.
Jeffro
@Bill E Pilgrim:
It’s almost like Romney had…binders full of complaints against Trump.
Just Some Fuckhead
@OzarkHillbilly: Wouldn’t Ginsburg’s question require Republicans to have some basic grasp of how female anatomy works?
MattF
@Bill E Pilgrim: There’s a sensibility there that Dems won’t get– Romney regards the Republican Party as a valuable entity, something to be protected and nurtured. And Der Trump threatens that. Now, perhaps needless to say, I beg to differ– but it’s what Romney thinks and what Romney sees as the threat to the Republican Party is what he’s reacting to.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
I took a short stroll over to that shitty site to see for myself a little of the bile and anger. Those people are demented. And what’s even funnier about the asshole whose comment you quoted is that later on, after he bitches about non white people being stupid, it turns out that he himself can’t tell the word “leech” from the word “leach”…
ruemara
@Bill: not sure why people can’t get that racial, gender & sexual orientation bias will trump economic justice every time. Why else do you think most of the socialism that got passed in this country excluded those marginalized groups?
Chris
@ruemara:
There’s a meme going around Facebook of the various candidates’ pictures listed along with the Ghostbusters quote “CHOOSE THE FORM OF YOUR DESTRUCTOR.”
I actually like Sanders and Clinton both. But fuck it, it’s still funny.
hueyplong
Another day of Republican-on-Republican sniping, grudge creation, and posting of comments that can never be unread, followed by more of the same on national TV. Then back to the sniping and grudge creation after it’s over.
Faster, a-hole cats! Kill! Kill!
OzarkHillbilly
@Just Some Fuckhead: I’m not sure, but it would require them to have some basic level of humanity.
Kay
@Ready:
But how will they rip the bark off Trump? He has “businesses” that rob suckers. You-all don’t object to that.
Marco Rubio doesn’t have any standing to rip into Trump on the fake college. Marco Rubio takes tons of campaign money from fake colleges and those colleges are federally-funded or guaranteed.
Chris
@hueyplong:
I feel like Ernst Stavro Blofeld, overlooking his tank full of furiously warring beta fish.
Hoodie
@Bill E Pilgrim: Either that, or Mitt knows know exactly what he’s doing. The GOP PTB may realize that they’re not going to beat Trump for the nomination and a convention fight would tear the party apart. They’d rather let Trump set sail in the general and make sure he has a nice hole below the waterline before he casts off. They need to keep the Trumpenproletariat in the fold, but they want them to learn to eat their raw flesh on the back porch and not mess up the table linens. After Trump implodes, they tut-tut, retake control and resume the dogwhistle.
MattF
@Kay: Well, fwiw, Jerome Corsi, the lying asshole who pretty much drove the Swiftboat libel, is a Trump supporter. This is the real problem for Republicans– their shock troops are all flocking to Der Trump.
OzarkHillbilly
@Chris: A good joke is still a good joke, even if it is poking fun at oneself.
Mike J
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:
So Romney wants to get the government boot off the neck of the small businessman selling plants and plant extracts down on the corner?
p.a.
@ruemara: It’s in the national DNA. I’ve heard the trend among the young is toward justice but it seems 2 steps forward 1.5 back. My most hopeful belief is that much of the friction is from the rearguard action of Fed Judiciary & SCOTUS. My despair is at the level of state gvt where CitzU seems to be far more effective than on the national level. So far.
Cacti
OT: President Obama and Vice President Biden endorse Patrick Murphy over Alan Grayson in the Florida Democratic race for US Senate candidate.
Let the shrieking of the emo left commence.
Zinsky
As I posted elsewhere on BJ, it’s all over. Hillary Clinton is our next president, unless she either dies or is indicted. However, I’m not even sure an indictment would stop her election. The anti-Trump voter turnout in November is going to be massive. Trump is a dead man walking and doesn’t even know it.
chopper
@Ready:
so the brinks trucks can fly now. jesus, this is the worst fanfic ever.
Bill E Pilgrim
@Hoodie: Did you see the speech? He called Trump a liar, a con man, a fraud, an imposter. If their idea of keeping anyone in the mainstream GOP “fold” is calling the hero who they worship names like that, they’re doing it wrong.
Amir Khalid
Off topic, but this news has to be worth a front page post. David Alan Grier has been cast as Colonel Harland Sanders in KFC’s next round of commercials featuring its founder.
raptusregailter
Chris Christie ain’t “rushing” anything. Unless it’s the free buffet line. Or the first available window at the local Wingnut Welfare office.
ruemara
@Cacti: Grayson is an utter train wreck. And for a hedge fund manager to complain about the establishment big bank candidate, I’m cracking up. Of course, every Sanders supporter I know is a Grayson supporter. None can explain what good he does in office, but he said angry things I agree with seems to be the main reason. We deserve the suffering our stupidity as a species causes.
raven
Bill E Pilgrim
@MattF: This is a good point, and/but it’s actually the central delusion of all. Nobody in the country cares about “the Republican Party” except lobbyists, politicians, and journalists and pundits. Rubio has also stood up and said “this will destroy the Republican Party!”, and the people who are voting for Trump collectively respond “Huh? Who cares?”.
If Rubio and Romney are saying it to each other, insider to insider, well sure, have at it. My point is that I think Rubio and Romney are thinking they can persuade people away from Trump, by threatening “this will hurt the Republican Party!”. But no one, in the grand scheme of things out in the country, actually gives a shit. That’s the horror that they’re not quite yet facing.
chopper
@GregB:
he tried but got winded going up the steps.
BruceFromOhio
Awesome! Do love me some Jawbox!
TAKE THE BIG MAN DOWN
Amir Khalid
Having Mitt publicly denounce the Donald has to be a desperation move. The Republican party must know, there’s nothing Mitt (or anyone else) can say to break The Donald and his followers apart. The followers know this is an attempt to do that, and they’ll only cling all the more tightly to their pied piper. They’re not going to part with Donald until they see him actually selling them out.
D58826
@Cacti: Grayson is a good bomb thrower as a back bencher in the House. If I was a Fla. D, I would prefer some one a bit more, how to say it – mature!
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@ruemara:
The emo-prog self-cutting daddy issues contingent likes attitude over substance – the one’s who were disappointed in Obama because he believed in doing things legislatively rather than pulling executive action stunts when he first took office. They wanted a progressive GWB, but got an FDR instead (for the few months he had a Democratic Congress to work with).
chopper
@BruceFromOhio:
niiiice. i remember back in 95 when they toured with jawbreaker. insane.
D58826
@Bill E Pilgrim: Former Reaganite Bruce Bartlett wrote a piece in which he said he voted for Trump and hopes that he wins the nomination. Why? His reasoning is you have to burn the house down before you can rebuild. He is hoping that a crushing defeat in November will, in Obama’s words, break the fever and restore the GOP to a moderately conservative party that can take part in the government either in the majority or the minority.
Just Some Fuckhead
And the usual suspects show up to turn a thread about Republicans into an internecine Democratic fail show.
Hoodie
@Bill E Pilgrim: The Romney faction absolutely wants Trump to fail and sure don’t want him in the fold, because he threatens their power. However, they still want his supporters, and what better way than making him an utter loser, losing to, of all people, Hitlery? They may be thinking that Trump’s supporters have nowhere else to go once Trump implodes, they’ll go back under the stairs and only come out when summoned to wear purple bandaids or otherwise savage a Dem. The interesting thing will be to see how Trump reacts. If he caves, they’ll use him, otherwise they’ll tear him apart.
Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class
OT, but this is emblematic of the sort of sound judgment that earns big pay for C-suite executives and the levels immediately beneath them.
ERIN ANDREWS I WANT THAT MARRIOTT GUY WHO OGLED ME BACK ON THE STAND
Peskind is the company rep at the Andrews trial, sitting at counsel table. He managed to do this mid-trial.
I can think of about a thousand different scenarios under which the judge should allow this recall, and how any final finding would be reversible without it. Of course, unlike Omnes, I’m an actual real-life lawyer and not a paid corporatist neo-liberal posting troll (even though as a family lawyer, I have little but glancing knowledge of deep issues of the philosophy of constimatooshinal jurisprudence, as the damn thing just gets in our way most of the time).
Just Some Fuckhead
@D58826:
I watched his interview on O’Donnell’s show and it was a fantastical voyage into the mind of a supposed rational Republican. If he actually thinks nominating Trump will break a conservative fever, he’s dumber than the Republicans who stayed in the party. They are just going to chalk a loss up to failure to nominate a real conservative. And if Trump can somehow pull off a win, maybe because of a Clinton indictment or something, Bartlett’s worldview will be dealt a deathblow. I had a tiny bit of respect for Bartlett prior to last night’s interview.
ETA: I think it’s more likely Bartlett has a secret Trump crush.
Bill E Pilgrim
@D58826: That makes a lot more sense to me that these other clowns like Romney or Rubio, out there pleading with the country not to elect Trump because it will hurt the “Republican Party”. After the way the Republican Party has treated the country, why in the world would they think anyone cares?
It really is emblematic of how backwards they see things, as if the voters are there to serve the party, rather than the other way around. And in the sense of citizens being there to serve the wealthy who make up the party establishment, it is traditionally precisely how someone like Romney sees things.
@Just Some Fuckhead:
That’s probably true also. It’s not so much that I think it would work, it just seems less deluded than Romney.
agorabum
Back in 2009, Chris Rock astutely observed that minorities haven’t “gotten better” in America, but that white people have gotten less crazy (and he expanded on it in 2014, noting “White people were crazy. Now they’re not as crazy. To say that black people have made progress would be to say they deserve what happened to them before.”)
But there are still a lot of crazy ones, and they have been given permission by the Republican establishment and the racists at NR for years to openly rip on minorities because it all served the goal of attacking Obama and deriding him and everyone of color he appoints as an ‘affirmative action’ appointee.
Despite and the Drumpf stormers, I’m holding on to hope that the white folks – on the whole – are less crazy, and won’t elect that clown in November. Surely, at some point, people will wake up from the fever dream…you can’t fool all the people all of the time.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@D58826:
He’s such a tough critic of the “wanker party”, but he’s delusional too. Republicans are now whatever Trump says they are, which are a bunch of xenophobic racist morons. The Republican party as we’ve known it all of our lives is dead.
Nate Dawg
@Just Some Fuckhead: It will all be Democrats’ fault.
They could nominate and elect Hitler himself, and after the rubble had been cleared, we’d only hear about how “A Democrat ran as a Republican and ruined this great country” for the rest of time.
The Republican party is just one giant “No True Scotsman” fallacy.
The Republic, Blah Blah Blah...
@CONGRATULATIONS!: That’s demeaning to both the film and the memory of John Belushi…
I’d say the status quo is more like Lord of the Flies…
Bill E Pilgrim
@Hoodie: I think another of the big delusions is their not seeing how they themselves created these Trump supporters. They seem completely flummoxed by it, and it’s emerging as a much more potent force than they imagined, that’s the whole point. I don’t think it’s entirely just people who were under a rock forever, they’ve created lots more of them via FOX News, Rush Limbaugh, Matt Drudge, and so on. So, good luck on the idea that the little handful will just creep back under rocks, no chance. They really have no good solution though, it’s true.
raven
Nathan Deal makes a forceful, biblical case against Georgia’s ‘religious liberty’ bill
Ella in New Mexico
Listening to Mitt Romney denounce Trump for not being a business genius and callously causing so many people to lose their jobs under his various bankruptcies…
Priceless.
Mr. Twister
Wow, Bernie Tweeted this.
Betty Cracker
@Cacti: I concur wholeheartedly! Rubio’s soon-to-be vacant senate seat should be an easy get — unless the FL Dems are dumb enough to nominate Grayson.
Just Some Fuckhead
@raven:
You mean like when McCain said we should go to war with Russia over the Republic of Georgia?
Matt McIrvin
I don’t think those guys can take him down, because they’re Republicans, which automatically forecloses a lot of the arguments they could use.
But I’m not particularly happy about this. Carlos Yu, a guy who I generally pay close attention to, has been making some pretty morose comments on Noel Maurer’s blog about how he thinks that if Trump so much as gets the Republican nomination, even if he loses the election (maybe especially then), it’ll lead to a Republican Party in which open white-supremacist rhetoric is much more normal and acceptable than it has been, with a corresponding increase in the general level of daily nastiness encountered by anyone with the temerity to be non-white in this country. Even if Trump is similar to or not as bad as Cruz or Rubio in his actual policy proposals, even if this attitude isn’t a national election-winner, that’s a real difference and not a good one.
MattF
OT, via TPM: The DeLemus family is pretty unusual. Note, in particular the last paragraph of the article.
Timurid
That Romney speech… wow.
He was projecting hard enough to show Powerpoint slides on the Moon…
chopper
@Mr. Twister:
well, that’s bernie ‘no personal attacks’ sanders for you.
Patricia Kayden
@agorabum: What you say is 100% true except Republicans have been racist for decades prior to President Obama’s ascendancy. President Obama just brought the racists to the forefront and into the public eye. From the meeting of Republican leaders during President Obama’s first inauguration where they promised to obstruct everything he did, through the “You lie” interruption at the first SOTU, to the birtherism, there can be no doubt that Republicans have encouraged and pampered racists.
Trump is just the fruit of their decades of coddling bigots. It’s almost amusing to see Rightwingers like Goldberg moaning about Trump’s embrace of the KKK when he has been part of a political group which is fine with Tea Baggers and Birthers.
FlipYrWhig
@raven: This is great news! For John McCain!
Romney/McCain 2016: The Republican Wing of the Republican Party
Amir Khalid
@Mr. Twister:
Bernie does remember that it was Bill, not Hillary, in elected office at the time. Doesn’t he?
Applejinx
@Amir Khalid: Are you kidding? Detroit went down well before that.
He’s right that NAFTA helped keep it down and it’s a valid point, but it wasn’t NAFTA that turned Detroit into a wasteland, it was urbanization: white flight, suburbia, the abandonment of the city. It’s a city made for 10X or 20X the people it supports, and most of the infrastructure’s been lost for decades upon decades.
Check out the amazing documentary ‘High Tech Soul’, if you can find it (I’m proud to own a DVD hard copy). Techno was born out of Detroit and the movie begins with a historical overview of what happened to Detroit. You could also say racism happened to Detroit, and NAFTA finished it off.
D58826
Well Mitt has had his say but until the fat lady sings, I mean Bristol Palin,. nothing will be decided.
Chip Daniels
@Applejinx:
Which is an interesting point, especially when viewed against the current fapping of the tech and financial press about how wonderful it is for capital to be highly mobile, and industries to be “disruptive”.
Capital may be mobile, but property isn’t, and labor not much.
So how does a society adapt to massive investments in infrastructure which may reach its critical replacement date exactly when the capital decides its time to flee somewhere?
FlipYrWhig
@Applejinx:
Explain that to your pal Bernie.
Peale
@Tripod: Exactly. Oooh boy, RMoney. Gonna save the day. Piss pantsy though. Wouldn’t even endorse anyone else. Isn’t gonna go out on a limb for anyone. Nothing says Man’s Man to the base like a loser who is never willing to take a risk. Declare Rubio your boy or declare yourself in or sit down, Mr. Has-been.
D58826
@Applejinx: The industrial rust belt started at least as early as 1980. Or maybe the 1981 recession just put the spotlight on the decline of manufacturing that had been happening for years
Applejinx
@D58826: Exactly. NAFTA just drove a stake into its heart. It’s a valid point but not solely due to Third Way politics.
@Chip Daniels:
It doesn’t.
Simple answers to (not stupid, in fact very reasonable) questions :)
Mr. Twister
I thought it was a despicable attack on Bernie’s part. That’s the kind of crap you see coming from Breitbart’s and other parts of the Right Wing cesspool.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Mr. Twister: Wow. Bernie seems to be losing the thread here. Last I looked, Hillary didn’t have a vote on NAFTA. Bill was president and 27 Democrats in the Senate voted for final passage.
Lumping Bill of the 1990s and Hillary of today together as one borg-like person isn’t a good approach, it seems to me.
Bernie really should be campaigning by looking forward, not fighting so many 5-20+ year old battles again. :-/
Cheers,
Scott.
chopper
@Mr. Twister:
i think his campaign is starting to see the writing on the wall and is thinking it’s time to go negative. which isn’t going to do any good.
Steve in the ATL
@Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class:
I’m not a litigator anymore, but I suspect this was not a wise move by Mr. Peskind and will be viewed unfavorably by the court.
Aside from that, they were making fun of her body??? What the hell? She’s pretty impressive as physical specimens go. They are lucky they didn’t see a peephole video of me and my naked dad bod!
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Mr. Twister:
Unpossible! Bernie’s perfect! All day every day my FB feed full of white people I know tells me so.
Mr. Twister
I think he’s actually in Detroit today. There’s more where that tweet came from.
Applejinx
@Mr. Twister: Are you joking? NAFTA decimated these areas.
Maybe you think it despicable because it’s too difficult to counter and the only counterattack is sticking your fingers in your ears singing ‘LA LA LA CAN’T HEAR YOU’. Of all the places with a legitimate beef against globalization, privatization and the flight of capital overseas, Detroit is top of the list.
They privatized the MAYOR, for fuck’s sake. It’s war out there. Bernie is completely justified in citing the failings of neoliberalism there.
Steve in the ATL
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: These Bernie bros were at best little kids during Clinton’s reign of terror, or however you describe eight years of peace and prosperity. Surely this argument is not gaining much traction with them, unless they are tribalists first and progressives second. Which reminds of the base of a different political party….
chopper
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:
the other part is that NAFTA was written up and banged out during Bush I, with the ratification handed over to the senate in clinton’s inaugural year. that isn’t to say clinton was agin’ it, but it wasn’t his baby in any manner of speaking.
FlipYrWhig
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:
All Bernie has is 20-year-old battles that he fights with 50-year-old ideas.
Kylroy
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: I was born in 1980. The Republican Party I’ve known my entire life hasn’t died, it merely completed it’s ongoing metamorphosis.
Steve in the ATL
@Applejinx: It was more automation and bad design that blew up the US auto industry. As for the emergency manager law in Michigan, that was 100% Republican over the vehement objections of the gerrymandered-to-nothing Democrats.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Applejinx:
“They” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. Is that Clinton (the borg) and the DLC’s (ditto) doing as well?
(sheesh)
Cheers,
Scott.
FlipYrWhig
@Applejinx: Interestingly enough, Hillary was talking about Flint as a symptom of larger problems WELL BEFORE St. Bernie dawdled his way over to it.
Peale
@Applejinx: Nafta. Jeebus. What killed the auto industry wasn’t NAFTA. Consumers didn’t want what what US manufactures were selling and haven’t for quite some time. Oh, look, last year less than 50% of US cars sold were by US manufacturers (generously counting FiatChrysler as a US Auto Company. Those foreign cars that people are buying are primarily manufactured in the US, but by foreign owned plants and JVs operating outside of Detroit/Fint/Pontiac. The country that took most of those manufacturing jobs from the US in auto-manufacturing was actually Canada until recently (it took 20 years for that labor arbitrage to finally kick in! Until then, it was those wealthy white Canadians who were eating US worker’s lunch, but no one wants to criticize white workers, so…) NAFTA is a code word for US manufacturers didn’t give a crap about their consumer’s preferences, sold them junk, lost their confidence and haven’t been able to win it back.
FlipYrWhig
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: AJ sees Hillaries everywhere, like a sort of mischief-making sprite that turns the promise of social justice into a grim hellscape.
Miss Bianca
@D58826:
Yeah, well…good luck with that one, Bruce…
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Steve in the ATL:
Dunno. There was a bit of a perfect storm that hit Detroit in the early ’70s. The end of cheap oil, the end of people accepting that cars should last 4 years before they rust out or the wheels fall off and we should be happy about it, the faint beginnings of sensible emissions controls and safety regulations, management buying off unions with decent wages and benefits but not figuring out ways to improve quality for customers, etc.
Halberstam’s The Reckoning covers a lot of this very well (but he thought Nissan was going to win, so it’s not perfect by any means).
When GM, Ford, and Chrysler had the US market to themselves they felt no pressure to compete by actually making better cars. Just bigger, flashier, more powerful. They sewed the seeds of their own destruction. It was a long slow process that culminated in the 2008 crash, taking Detroit and lots of other “company towns” down in the process.
Cheers,
Scott.
Tripod
White America fled and capital staved vast swaths of urban America because African-Americans moved in.
Now white America feels nostalgia about the destruction.
I get it was some twenty something staffer, but clueless and entitled is no way to go through life.
Steve in the ATL
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: That is a much more detailed description of what I meant by “bad design”!
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Steve in the ATL: :-)
I (obviously) still haven’t gotten the hang of the short, pithy comment yet. I’d be hopeless on Twitter.
“(187/2834) – And another thing!11 …”
Cheers,
Scott.
Miss Bianca
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:
Yeah, this. I was there. Granted, I was only 10 years old in ’73 when the gas really hit the fan and began the rapid accelaration of the destruction sowed in the wake of the ’67 riots, but even a kid could tell that the oil embargo and the domestic auto boycott was a BFD for Detroit.
Mr. Twister
@Applejinx: Really the privatized mayor ? That was Republicans dude. Also, I worked in the auto industry in the late 70’s and 80’s and as others have pointed out the cars coming out of Detroit were absolute junk. No one wanted that unreliable crap and so Detroit lost a lot of business to Japan.
Long before NAFTA. It was a cheap shot by Bernie.
retiredeng
@ruemara: The stupidity of our species is due to the instinct for warring tribalism. Be it verbal or outright murder. It will not go away because it’s in our DNA.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Kylroy:
There’s a straight white line from Nixon to Trump. It took two and a half generations to dispense with all of the party built edifice, constructed to obscure the rotten core of its racist identity. Which Trump can add to his collection of shitty things with his name on it, including Chris Christie’s manhood.
Calouste
@Mr. Twister: I’m just looking out of my office window into the car park, and I can spot 2 American cars, and a few American trucks and SUVs. The rest of about 40 or so I can see are Japanese, with some European mixed in.
The Lodger
@FlipYrWhig: How did McKinley feel about Barnum?
DCF
As one of the thousands who lost a close family member (Army Ranger Captain/101st Airborne/age 30) to the Bush/Cheney cabal, this Betty Cracker quote strikes deeply….
Thom Hartmann was just on the TV machine, speaking with Dr. Stephen F. Cohen about the (Obama-sanctioned) program for the miniaturization of nuclear weapons with ‘controllable fallout range(s)’…mix this news with the prospect of a TRUMP! presidency, and the prospects are truly frightening….
Revenge of the Simple: How George W. Bush Gave Rise to Trump
Bush was just an appetizer — Trump would be the main course
By Matt Taibbi March 1, 2016
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/revenge-of-the-simple-how-george-w-bush-gave-rise-to-trump-20160301
Howlin Wolfe
@chopper: +100000000000000000
Howlin Wolfe
@p.a.: Nah, they got brains, they just don’t use them. The zombies may as well eat them.
Princess
@Mr. Twister: It’s a perfect Roscach test for the Dem primary. He looks at those photos and sees NAFTA. I look at them and see white flight and racism, starting in the 60s. I think my history is better. Detroit started on that path long before NAFTA.
J R in WV
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
While non-white people can be stupid, they have much less power than white people, who can be equally stupid. And with that excess power, the stupid of white people can be much more damaging than the equally stupid non-white people who have less power in the great external world.
I’m just tying to say “race” has very little correlation with stupid, either way. Does the comment make any sense in that light? never mind.
Good quote, OzarkHillbilly! Pins the psychiatric diagnosis right against that hairdo! Saved you a barge of typing, too.
Uncle Cosmo
I realize I’m late to the feeding frenzy here, but let me simply note that Jonah Goldbrick [sic] is the ultimate illustration of the road apple not falling far from the horse’s arse.