The Power House Political Team has already set the narrative that Senator Rubio did poorly. Have at it in the comments.
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The Power House Political Team has already set the narrative that Senator Rubio did poorly. Have at it in the comments.
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Baud
Since I didn’t watch it, it was the best GOP debate yet.
Although I would like to have seen Rubio get spanked.
redshirt
@Baud: Also didn’t watch it. Thought Bob Dole did great.
BOB DOLE!
different-church-lady
Wonderful! Now maybe nobody will win the GOP nomination!
PhoenixRising
Christie went full Jersey on Rubio. It was beautiful. Both reverted to their inner natures: bully and weasel.
Baud
@redshirt: Oh God! Can you imagine watching GOP Debate Classics?
MomSense
@redshirt:
I kinda miss him and his quirky referring to himself in the third person. Then he retired and did ED commercials.
The Buhjaysus
I’m luvin’ all the talking heads pile on Rubio.
Christie had some whacked out comment about the evil Democratic Party supporting the selling of fetal body parts and the funding of Planned Parenthood.
Fuck Him
Felonius Monk
@Baud:
Hmmm!
Bill E Pilgrim
@MomSense: Tell me he didn’t refer to “Little Bob Dole” in those.
Renie
all of this is good news for john mc cain!
redshirt
@Baud: I’m surprised someone hasn’t launched that channel. From 5-11PMEST, all the best from the history of politics. From midnight to 4PM? Informercials for supplements and gold.
Baud
@The Buhjaysus: He must have eaten Carly Fiorina before the debate.
MomSense
@Bill E Pilgrim:
Ha!
redshirt
@MomSense: I’m honestly surprised Dole is still a Republican after the humiliation he suffered from our current Congress.
MomSense
@Felonius Monk:
Baud may want to blame that comment on a staffer.
scottinnj
I think this debate shows that Obama knows exactly what he is doing.
Jade
Rubio stopped running for President and started running for Obamas BFF.
MomSense
@redshirt:
I still know some Republicans and it shocks the hell out of me.
Felonius Monk
The Joisey Whale dined on the Florida Krill tonite.
jl
@Baud:
” I didn’t watch it ”
Don’t worry. Baud! 2016! is more incoherent and fact free than all of them GOPers put together. They can’t touch you.
Luthe
@redshirt: You forgot the exciting afternoon block of shows about how the Masons and the Illuminati wrote the Declaration of Independence.
Baud
@jl: I will Gish Gallop the Gish Gallopers.
redshirt
@MomSense: Linky.
Just another example of “these aren’t your Father’s Republicans”, but for us oldsters, remember when Republicans were actually sometimes capable of doing something good for the Republic and the world?
Mike J
Truman Capote is on Carson.
Old Dan and Little Anne
My local news just did a few minute segment on the debates. It was a nice glimpse of the insanity for those who aren’t paying any attention.
Felonius Monk
@Baud:
I wonder if anyone got pictures.
jl
@MomSense:
” Baud may want to blame that comment on a staffer. ”
Baud is probably spanking staffer now. Hope there is tape. Shows leadership and Baud! 2016! voters eat that stuff up.
trollhattan
@Baud:
Brain bleach, stat, deliver to aisle me.
Come to think of it, Christie and Fiorina deserve one another.
Chris and Carly, sittin’ in a tree
Stabbing children with sharp knives, one, two, three
redshirt
@Luthe: They’ll turn to that after a couple of years of running old debates and speeches when ratings are not up to snuff. Eventually, it will just be cop reality shows and wrestling on Fridays.
trollhattan
@jl:
Baud need stiffer staffers.
Baud
@trollhattan: Maybe I should get some of Bob Dole’s ED medicine.
Suzanne
@Felonius Monk: I really enjoyed Marco Rubio being humiliated. It was pretty fucking awesome. Maybe I’ll watch a gif. It’s kind of like watching that video of the dude falling for ten seconds while shoveling the snow. I laugh and laugh until my stomach hurts.
TheBuhJaysus
@Baud: @Baud: @Baud:
“Get in me belly”
Felonius Monk
If the rethugs really cared about our country, they’d load all these guys in a bus and drive it over a cliff.
ETA: BTW, how’s your hoof doing? Are you getting better?
Felonius Monk
@Suzanne: I don’t think he is even smart enough to know he’s being humiliated. This twerp just seems very dense.
ETA: How’s your hoof doing? Is it getting better?
Howard Beale IV
Trump wants to do things far worse than waterborading.
Numemburg-whazzat?
TheBuhJaysus
I will give Christie props for smacking young Marco around.
amk
so who is gonna drop out after nh? kasich? nj fucker? shrub3?
MomSense
@redshirt:
I remember attending one of William Cohen’s poetry readings.
Baud
@amk: All of them, Katie.
(I wish)
TheBuhJaysus
@amk:
If Rubio stumbles from his lackluster display they will all stay in.
The Funtime variety show will keep on rolling…
redshirt
@MomSense: LOL. What a trip. What was that like?
I met Senators Cohen and Mitchell (a couple of times) back in the day. Good Senators.
Suzanne
@Felonius Monk: Oh, I think he knew he was getting shivved. He just isn’t smart enough to do shit about it. Christie hit the nail on the head: Rubio memorizes these sound bites and tries to cram them in wherever possible, even where they don’t make sense.
Felonius Monk
Bernie Sanders will be making an appearance on Saturday Night Live tonight.
jl
@Suzanne:
” he knew he was getting shivved. He just isn’t smart enough to do shit about it. ”
As I’ve typed before, Rubio looks like a fawn just bright enough to sense in a very vague way that it needs to avoid headlights.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Mike J: Isn’t Capote dead? Wait, so is Carson.
Suzanne
@Felonius Monk: Yeah, all seems to be better so far, THX for asking. Spawn the Younger has been a puke monster for the last two days, so we are spending much time at home on the couch.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Felonius Monk:
@trollhattan: Don’t give people out here in the San Fernando Valley any ideas.
ETA: I go out and trace the footsteps of Sheriff Andy Taylor and little Oppie and come back to this?
amk
@Baud:
from I could see from the cage fight, no one came out winnah. let’s see what monday brings.
MomSense
@redshirt:
That was a depressing spectacle. The Republicans were hopped up on UN conspiracy theories. Ugh.
Felonius Monk
@Suzanne: Sick kids – not fun for kid or mom. Mrs. Monk had stomach bug about a week ago. It was not pretty, but all seems well now. A lot of that going around here now.
MomSense
@redshirt:
He was really nice. I remember he and my dad sat around and talked in my dad’s study for awhile after it finished.
Mitchell is great. My youngest met him a few years ago and he was really gracious and generous with his time. I got the feeling he enjoys talking with the kids more than the adults.
Joel
I fixed a plumbing issue in my kitchen (bad connector in my pull out faucet).
I am so fucking proud of myself.
dr. bloor
@srv:
Misused and misspelled. Well done.
Although the thought of Joe Biden in a hotel room dwelling on how every day he’s there he gets weaker while HRC gets stronger is weirdly entertaining.
Mary G
The beginning was the best part to me, sort of like an SNL skit. They called whoever was first (Christie?) and he came out and took his podium. Then they called Dr. Booby, who only came to the side of the stage and stopped. The next couple of guys dithered about whether they should stop there too, except Jeb, who didn’t even slow down and barreled right past to his podium. Then it was just Trump and Carson and the poor anchor was so flustered by having to coax the doctor out he forgot about Kasich and was ready to go with a podium empty, while Kasich was peeking out from the curtain going WTF.?
The Republican party in a nutshell.
Frankensteinbeck
@jl:
And still a far better politician than Jeb:<
Suzanne
@Felonius Monk: They’re so cute when they’re snuggly, though. Dawwww.
p.a.
@MomSense:
gun-centric or enviro-centric? or some new lunacy?
redshirt
@MomSense: Yeah, Mitchell was fantastic. Too bad he left the Senate, actually.
What was Cohen’s poetry like? I’m very curious now. I know he’s a decent writer with some fiction books out, but had no idea he not only dabbled in poetry but did public readings.
redshirt
@efgoldman: Yeah, most likely. Too bad he didn’t say something back in 2012 after that debacle.
Speaking of, have there been any notable defections of Repubs to Dems recently? Seemed like a small trend years ago (Bush era), but since?
NotMax
Jeb! wasn’t accompanied on stage with his mother?
MomSense
@p.a.:
We’ll cease to be a sovereign nation!!!
@redshirt:
Some orbit was sort of romantic. 70s vintage meandering. I have one of his books somewhere.
redshirt
@MomSense: I really, really love the idea of the former Secretary of Defense for the most powerful nation that’s ever existed doing poetry readings.
I guess even if it was Rummy. Maybe.
Mandalay
CNN – which normally has the spine of a wet paper towel – is taking the bold step of calling Cruz a liar on camera for what he said about their reporting on Carson during the debate tonight.
Unfortunately that may get overlooked tomorrow with the Rubio brouhaha, but should provide Cruz’s opponents with some handy sound bites.
p.a.
@MomSense: Oh. Bircher 1950’s stuff. Sweet.
Feathers
Forgot/never knew (don’t know which) there was a debate. Netflixed CONSTANTINE. Probably a very similar experience to watching the debate.
Although the debate we really need is the candidates magically frozen with Tilda Swinton sliding up beside them, cocking her head and whispering questions in their ears, while Keanu Reeves shouts You know you must answer, you know you must answer! The Fox News team is whining and wailing, hissing This was supposed to be neutral territory as Djimon Hounsou shakes his head and laughs.
Or just have the next debate from the basement of a closed insane asylum. That would also suffice.
NotMax
@redshirt
I never saw a purple cow
I never hope to see one
But I can tell you here and now, by darn
They’re to the north, east, south and west of the barn
p.a.
@efgoldman: BJuice gets some weakass trolls I think.
srv: sad. ridiculous. vacuous.
Dee Loralei
I saw “Pride and Prejudice and. Zombies” tonight. Was Shaun of the Dead meets Jane Austen. It also stuck very close to the original book, P&P. Well other than zombies and kick ass Bennet sisters. It was fun. And sounds like it was less scary and bloody than the Republican debate.
Last Saturday I played in a World Series of Po-/ker regional event down in Tunica and I beat 167 other women and won a WSOP ring! Oh and some cash. So yay me!
jl
@efgoldman:
” when she wasn’t in office and wasn’t a candidate for anything. ‘
But, she knew she would be a candidate! Just like every single fart she emitted as Sect of State should be combed through for conflict of interest. HRC obviously knew Obama would win a second term, be relatively popular at the end of his term, and she would be front runner for Dem nomination in 2016…. and she had everything all planned out.
Even, probably the ‘meltdown’ is planned, whatever that is supposed to be.
Look efg, if the HRC BS industry collapsed, how would we make up for all the jobs lost. Thousands of jobs, just gone overnight!
amk
@srv:
This WH doesn’t do “apocolyptic” or bernstein. #idjit
redshirt
@Dee Loralei: Wow! When I last followed poker, that ring was a big deal. Still the case?
Congrats!
redshirt
@NotMax:
You write the poem
you have not the poem
you wish for if wishes
were poems then fishes
would pen tomes and
this world would be a
much different place.
Nate Dawg
The Bernie Sanders skit on SNL was absolutely brilliant. I’m sure it’ll be all over the intertubes soon enough, but damn, actually lol’ed several times.
mclaren
The moderators need to start reading out the results of research papers about political attitudes to the candidates and asking for their comments.
For example, the study “Bright Minds and Dark Attitudes” by researchers at Brock University found that having lower general intelligence in childhood could predict conservative and racist ideas as an adult. The moderators should cite that study and ask the Republican candidates for their reactions.
Then there’s the survey “What You Know Depends on What You Watch,” undertaken by Fairleigh Dickinson University, which found that watching Fox News produces more ignorance about the world. Researchers asked 1,185 respondents which news shows they consumed and then asked general questions about newsworthy events. People who watched Fox News got an average score of 1.04, while NPR viewers got an average score of 1.51. I’d like to see the moderators read the results of that survey and see what the Republican candidates think.
Then there’s a study by researchers at the University of Arkansas called “Low-Effort Thought Promotes Political Conservatism.” They performed four different experiments, all of which reduced subjects’ ability to use “effortful, deliberate thought,” and they found that situations causing low-effort thought resulted in more conservative beliefs.
It would prove very interesting to hear moderators ask Republican presidential candidates their opinions on that study.
I would be particularly keen on hearing a debate among the Republican presidential candidates — is conservatism due to low biological innate intelligence, or ignorance caused by Fox News, or is conservatism a situational cognitive deficit produced by reduction in effortful deliberate thought?
Enquiring minds want to know. I’d listen to that debate with great interest.
redshirt
@Dee Loralei: Sorry, I said a verboten.
How big a deal is your win? Like huge? I’m impressed regardless. Congrats!
Kropadope
@efgoldman:
It’s nice to see Fox’s idea for using the dumbest possible pundits as sources for “some say” journalism has caught on in the broader MSM.
Steeplejack
@Dee Loralei:
Congratulations!
Tripod
Bucket of crabs.
Lulz
p.a.
@mclaren:
I believe U Maryland did similar back in ’03/’05 to same result. The MORE time a person spent watching Fux the MORE ill-informed they became.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Dee Loralei: Yay! :-)
P&P&Z looks like fun. Thanks for the mini-review.
Cheers,
Scott.
Mandalay
@Kropadope:
Since David Gregory was a pundit on Fox tonight you have a point.
Dee Loralei
@redshirt: a biggish deal. I guess kinda like winning a conference championship. But it’s a big ass ring! I mean yooge! It’s a mans ring and heavy and gold, and it’s engraved and it’s bigger round than my thumb!kinda like a super bowl ring without the jewel. Out of like 3,00 players in my hold me league, I’m the only one with a ring. But one of my good friends went out 10 in the main event and was the last woman standing! The one in Vegas is the one they show on tv. So I think what she did is more impressive than my win. But I am damned proud! Thanks!
redshirt
@efgoldman: I meant only in the WSOP standings or leagues or however they run it. I have no idea at this point. I won money back in the day but don’t have the desire any longer, apparently.
redshirt
@Dee Loralei: Wow! Awesome. Yeah, that’s big time. So impressed because I know how hard it is to do what you did. I could never do it, that’s for sure!
Kropadope
@Mandalay: Jon Stewart first brought this to my attention, I can’t claim credit.
Suzanne
@Dee Loralei: GO YOU, that’s badass. WTG!
Dee Loralei
I can’t edit, but it’s a hold ’em league, damned auto correct! And thanks everyone. And EFG I didn’t win enough for the IRS to care, I mean less tha $5K. but it was a nice little payday. And quite unexpected.
Oh and I now have a Hendon Mob profile, they make them automatically when you cash in a WSOP event. And no, I don’t know entirely what that means, except my son is jealous. Oh lol last Saturday night when I got home, my son and I stayed up having a couple of celebratory beers and he was bouncing off the walls excited for me, since I accomplished something on his bucket list! And I threatened to melt my ring down or sell it lol! For a while he thought I was serious! Hahaha, pranked my son!
PaulW
Domo arigato Mr. RoboRubio
dww44
@TheBuhJaysus: That’s actually the preferred outcome in my playbook.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Dee Loralei: Badass cool. Congratulations.
redshirt
@Dee Loralei: Was your tournament close or did you hold a commanding lead?
Suzanne
LMMFAO. I just watched the end of the debate, and saw Trump’s line about Cruz stealing Carson’s votes in Iowa, and Kasich staggers back from the podium, laughing.
God DAMN, there are times I like Trump (and Christie) for just being unrepentant douchebags. It’s percersely admirable. Bwahahahaaaaaa.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
wow, the knives are out
Dee Loralei
@redshirt: when we got down to 10 , I was chip,leader and it stayed that way going into heads up. Final table we had 3 women from our league and heads up was me and the woman who runs the league, so we did quite well in that tourney. The funny thing was our league had a $35 tourney the week before and top 3 got their buy-ins paid for, and I won that! So it cost me nothing to enter the WSOP event and the cash was pure extra!
Omnes Omnibus
OT: for anyone who still cares about the site rebuild… Around midnight EST last night, the site stopped completely loading for me. It cycles through a lot of transferring data from a variety of sources.
mike in dc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqshYG4qvT4
That’s pretty bad. Like, Rick Perry “oops”, Howard Dean “Byaaaah!” bad.
redshirt
@Dee Loralei: You’re living a p0k3r testimonial! It’s impressive.
How did you play your final hands? Aggressive as heck?
benw
@Suzanne: Trump has that particular asshole ability of instinctively zeroing in on someone’s weakness and really sticking the knife in. The way he lit up Cruz at the last debate about being all alone on the Senate floor because everyone else hated him was vicious. I mean, I wouldn’t want Trump anywhere near any position of power, but you have to admit he has a talent.
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
@Dee Loralei: Congratulations!
David *Rafael* Koch
Hilarious attack ad – Rubio as a little boy who can’t stop drinking from a bottle, with a fat Christie impersonator covered in mud.
lgerard
@David *Rafael* Koch:
that’s pretty funny
Omnes Omnibus
This is brilliant.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@David *Rafael* Koch: Some SuperPac paid for that. I wonder who they support. (The fine print at the end says it wasn’t authorized by any candidate or candidate’s committee.)
It’s such a mystery!!11
/snark.
Our campaign laws are so messed up…
Cheers,
Scott.
(The SuperPac probably spent $20 to e-mail it to reporters and post it on YouTube while hoping they don’t have to pay any TV stations to show it.)
Dee Loralei
@redshirt: heads up especially, but short handed, my range of playable hands opens up, meaning final hand I called a 30k raise with 6,7 of spades, and normally, I’d fold to a big raise with that, but I flopped a flush, and because I knew the woman I was playing against, I just checked to her, and she checked back, next card was a little heart, and I checked again, because I know she can’t stand too many checks, and oddly she checked back! Next card was a king of diamonds and I checked again! She shoved all in and I called! And kicked her butt! But yea, I’m much more aggressive when I’m playing fewer people. Usually I will fold my big blind to a medium raise if I have a crappy starting hand. But short handed I will call a middling raise and then act aggressive on the flop.
Suzanne
@benw: Oh, I think the dude has an almost incredible ability to size up his opponents and find the weakest spot for the shiv. A few debates back, he was going after Jeb!, calling him “low-energy”, and it was so obvious that it pissed him off soooo bad, but he did t know how to parry it. And I said, and I still believe, that Jeb! should just go and punch him right in the face. A show of strength, of energy, of dominance. That would have completely changed the race. I would have loved watching that.
redshirt
@Suzanne: For real? Violence at a debate?
Suzanne
@redshirt: It’s a Republican debate. Physical violence would be more honest and forthright.
Omnes Omnibus
@Suzanne: Go watch this now. Trust me.
ETA: Choose dirty, but you knew that.
redshirt
@Suzanne: Perhaps on the Dem side too, but that’s why we have debates instead of “brain your opponent” sessions. Civilization requires lies.
Kay (not the front-pager)
@Dee Loralei: Winning the WSOP event, that’s great. You should be proud. But having your son so proud of you he’s bouncing around the room, being able to prank him about possibly melting down the ring? That’s awesome! Isn’t it just great when your kid grows up to be someone you would want to spend time with even if he weren’t your kid?
Suzanne
@Omnes Omnibus: I guess Red Lobster is better than Joe’s Crab Shack.
@redshirt: Our debates have been relatively substantive and illuminating, especially the last one. Theirs have been ridiculous. I mean, slashing one another’s tires would be more honorable.
Omnes Omnibus
@Suzanne: Huh? You watched and listened and called chain restaurant? Seriously?
Suzanne
@Omnes Omnibus: That Red Lobster line was the best part of the whole song!
GregB
Any truth to the rumor that Rubio is holding his election night rally at a Chuck E. Cheese?
mclaren
@Suzanne:
That’s great for 8-year-olds on a schoolyard, but how does that translate to actual policy that a person would implement as president?
There’s a point when people who aspire to become president have to stop giving one another wedgies and start talking about real issues in the real world, with some realistic proposals for solving them. I’m not seeing that anywhere in any of the Republican debates.
It’s like kindergarten over there. These people are going to implode when they come up against the Democratic presidential nominee talking real numbers and real policies.
Omnes Omnibus
@Suzanne: I suggest that you may have missed the point of the song. OTOH, I am going to bed. You may want to take up the the meaning of the song with lamh36; I think she would see the song differently.
Suzanne
@Omnes Omnibus: I get the meaning of the damn song. The video is not subtle. I also think the Red Lobster line is funny and cool. Geez. Calm the fuck down.
@mclaren: Oh, it doesnot translate to ability to be president at all. None of those clowns are qualified to change my fucking tires, never mind run a country. Makes for good TV, though. I mean, if they’re going to devolve our electoral process into a complete farce, I might as well sit back and enjoy it.
Omnes Omnibus
@Suzanne:
Spell better.
Suzanne
@Omnes Omnibus: Good Lord. It’s a song. Who pissed in your cornflakes?
redshirt
@Suzanne: LOL. Have you ever met Omnes before? Don’t worry, he’ll apologize in the next few days.
Dee Loralei
@Kay (not the front-pager): thank you! And it is awesome! Especially the fact he enjoys hanging out with me as much as I do him! A few years ago, we were standing in line waiting to buy drinks at a movie theater, and just chatting and a woman behind us said ” excuse me for eavesdropping, but I feel like I’m watching an episode of the Gillmore Girls” and I said, ” I love that show! But only one of us is a girl and only one of us is named Loralei!” Rofl, and I had to show her my drivers license to prove I am actually a Lorelei! HA!
SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel
I want to make sure everybody has a chance to see this epic debate opening. Didn’t see any mention of it in the last couple of threads. What a clusterfuck.
Carson genuinely does seem to be impaired, either through illness/injury or through medication of some kind. I love the momentary “What the everloving fuck?” look on Jeb’s face. And if anything could make me feel a little bit sorry for Kasich….
Omnes Omnibus
@Suzanne: You decided to be particular. I just followed on.
ETA: I am perfectly willing to leave it here.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Fuck you. General principle. Suzanne and I have known one another for awhile. We will get past this.
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: LOL. No need to be rude, roboticon.
lgerard
@SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel:
The best part was the stagehand who kept looking out from behind the curtain wondering what Carson was doing. It was like a grade school play
Darkrose
@Dee Loralei: Congratulations! That’s awesome!
karen marie
@SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel: Carson? It was obvious he didn’t/couldn’t hear his name called. I thought the more astonishing display of idiocy was Trump. WTF was he doing? That weird smirk …
HeartlandLiberal
Trending on Twitter, #RobotRubio is a thing of beauty. Even conservative nuts like Ann Coulter showing up and totally trashing Rubio, I mean, rendering him limb from limb.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/RobotRubio?src=hash
MomSense
@Omnes Omnibus:
It’s so good.
Matt McIrvin
@Suzanne:
This is what terrifies me about Trump–I can actually see his appeal. He’s funny! Not just ironically, look-at-this-moron funny; he’s genuinely funny, in a vicious way, about people who we hate at least as much as Trump.
People respond positively to that. “Oh, man, he really got ’em that time!” He also seems to be enjoying himself in a way that most of the candidates aren’t. It’s what makes me think he could actually win a general election.
J R in WV
@mclaren:
You are so dim:
NPR viewers? Rally? National Public Radio viewers? Oops.
dim!
Van Buren
@Baud: i have a son with autism who does exactly that. Watches old debates.Repeatedly. His alltime favorite is the 1988 VP debate.
rikyrah
No, he is not smart enough to come back with a good retort
mclaren
Who cares? None of these losers has a chance against either Bernie or Hillary.
This election is in the bag for the Democrats. It’s Miller time.