Open Thread: Another Unfortunate Coincidence for JEB

From the Gawker post:

For unfamiliar Yanks, [Jimmy] Savile was one of Great Britain’s most beloved and popular entertainers during his lifetime, covering the gamut from radio to television to charity work and everything in between. He was even knighted by the Queen in 1990. But after Savile died in 2011, what had long been sporadic and stifled allegations of sexual abuse began to blow up. And up and up and up.

By November of 2012, it was revealed that 450 alleged victims had come forward in the mere ten weeks since the police launched an investigation into Savile’s behavior. According to a BBC report from the time, of the hundreds of alleged victims, 82% were female and 80% were “children or young people.”

In 2014, a new report from the Health Secretary revealed that Savile also may have sexually abused patients at over 40 different hospitals he had visited under the auspice of “charity work.” With the Daily Mail writing that “Savile is thought to have abused patients aged from just five to 75.”

And before all that came to light, Jimmy Savile had a wildly popular children’s show called Jim’ll Fix It

One British Gawker contributor is quoted “… The show was way before my time, but I knew about it because it was a big cultural reference point. And now it just has such horrifying connotations. Very similar to the Cosby thing.”

Queen of the Media Village Mean Girls Maureen Dowd had an uncharacteristically nasty piece about the Bushes last weekend — normally, such super-scavengers are careful only to attack dead or dying prey. “Fall of the House of Bush“:

… As much as Poppy Bush scoffs at “the D-word,” as he calls any reference to dynasty, the Bushes do consider themselves an American royal family. They have always pretty much divided the world into Bushes and the help. The patriarch once sent me a funny satire referring to himself and Barbara as the Old King and Queen, W. as King George of Crawford and Jeb as the Earl of Tallahassee.

At 91, 41 is living to see Jebbie become president. He is mystified by a world in which Trump, whom he considers a clown, could dethrone the crown prince.

Jeb said in New Hampshire that Poppy is prone to throw his shoe at the TV when Trump comes on. Fortunately, the former president always has very stylish socks…

When the Bushes had to stick a shiv in the ribs of their foes, they behaved like gentlemen and outsourced it to henchmen. They can’t fathom a world where that vulgarian Trump is doing his own dirty work…

…[T]his campaign has been defined by Trump parachuting in, like an Elvis impersonator in Vegas, and disrupting the royal coronation. Jeb had been out of politics for eight years and he strolled back, mistakenly assuming that the vassals were waiting eagerly to hail him.

With Trump belittling him for being low energy and running to Mommy and Daddy for help, Jeb realized he was in a new world.

His brother’s muscle-bound presidency led to Barack Obama and the diffident Obama led to a new brand of furious, Tea Party-infused Republicans…

Jeb is trapped in a nightmarish déjà vu. Once he was cast as the wonky one while his brother, the sparky one, slipped ahead. Now Jeb is cast as the wonky one while Marco, the sparky one, slips ahead…

Guess MoDo figured she’d better empty the venom sacs before old CIA hand George H.W. “What Iran-contra Scandal?” Bush actually kicks off, when the Media Village Idiots will all be required to put on their grown-up sadfaces and pretend Poppy handing his balls over to Ronald Reagan didn’t indicate the start of the Teabaggers’ GOP takeover. When it comes to properly acknowledging the distance between Our Well-Endowed Betters and the rest of us, there’s nobody can be counted on like America’s “best” pundits!

228 replies
  1. 1
    Baud says:

    Queen of the Media Village Mean Girls Maureen Dowd had an uncharacteristically nasty piece about the Bushes last weekend


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    chris says:

    Just checking in from soshulist Canuckistan where we are about to get moar soshulist. Works for me.

    So does the new! new! site. Well done all.

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    Yanno, say what you will about America’s Creepy Rapist, Bill Cosby, but at least he preyed on adults, not kids.

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    Jane2 says:

    I was shocked when I saw the slogan on Twitter. Obviously not one person on his campaign team has read a British newspaper in years.

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    Corner Stone says:

    The Jeb campaign and the UK thing are completely different. For instance, there are more people of color in the Jim version than will be associated with the entire run of the Jeb shop.

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    NonyNony says:

    @Baud: The uncharacteristic part is that it’s directed at the Bushes.

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    benw says:

    At some point, a simply incompetent campaign starts to look no different from an elaborate piece of performance art positing the meaningless vacuousness of American political narrative discourse.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Just the use of the word “fix”, in any way, is really awful on the Jeb campaign’s part. Fix? Fixer?

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    Arm The Homeless says:

    I bet W. loves the fact that ¡Yeb! is no longer thought to be ‘The Smart Bush Scion’.

    I sure hope ¿Yeb? comes knockin’ in Tally. I would love to remind those assholes about their part in the Schiavo affair.

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    Baud says:

    What’s with the picture of the dog?

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    jl says:

    Rubio is the ‘sparky’ one? I guess compared to Jeb?. But compared to any other candidate?

    And any ‘spark’ I do see in Rubio is sprayed on PR BS, not the real thing.

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    ed_finnerty says:

    like he fixed the election for his brother

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    dmsilev says:

    @Corner Stone: At this point, it seems pretty clear that Jeb has been fixed.

    In the veterinary sense.

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    Corner Stone says:

    There are three things that make this blog worth a darn, operationally. Recent Comments (RIP, old friend), comment numbering, and a functioning Reply feature.
    Cole straight murdered Recent Comments. Apparently numbered comments also must somehow drag down the databases somewhere, somehow so a putsch is being attempted early on. And the redheaded half ass questionable offspring version of the Reply feature/can’t get back to where you were seems to be headed for 0 for 3.

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    Corner Stone says:

    He’s a grinder. He eats nails before his breakfast.

    Is he running for president or for the nomination to be one of Gruden’s Grinders?

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    Pogonip says:

    @Corner Stone: Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how do you like the play?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    What picture of what dog?

    ETA: Never mind, I went back to main page and saw the dog. I suppose it’s one of Anne Laurie’s papillons.

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    Ruckus says:

    Hey! It’s raining in socal. You know wet stuff falling out of the sky. Amazing.

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    RAM says:

    Funniest story on the web today.

    I really did, honestly, LOL.

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    @Corner Stone: I hate the new block quote formatting too.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Pogonip: I’m not a fan of the slow scroll back up the blog when you click on a linked comment and the immense amount of whitespace everywhere makes me wonder if I am commenting in Idaho in winter.
    If I wanted to be surrounded by so much whiteness I’d buy a ticket to CPAC.

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    Baud says:


    The dog at the top of this post.

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    Renie says:

    Any minute RtR aka (for today) as Real Change will be along to let us know about the new (post Jeb WIll Fix It) rebranding. ?JEB? is turning into the political Dr. Who with all these new generations of himself.

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    satby says:

    @Corner Stone: supposedly there’s stuff in the offing that will make us “stand up and clap”, which is not actually what I want to do when I sit down to read a blog. The plot, she is lost.

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    Mike J says:

    @Corner Stone:

    He’s a grinder.

    Nobody cares about his favorite apps.

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    beltane says:

    Whoever would have predicted that Donald Trump of all people would be the vessel of divine retribution? The Bush family was deserving of humiliation, but Donald Trump? The FSM must have a sense of humor.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Corner Stone: He’s a grinder. He eats nails before his breakfast.

    And shits thumbtacks?

    And the Canadian company behind the Keystone pipeline has pulled its application from the State Dept! Now that connotes excitement.

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    @Baud: Anne Laurie’s Gravtar?

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    Mike J says:

    @Baud: I don’t see one at the top, but if you go back to the previous post and look at the icon on the next post, the dog appears.

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    Ruckus says:

    I’m so glad I’m not a hundred yrs old and no longer capable of seeing change as a positive thing.

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    Baud says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    It’s AL’s. Cool. But why is it in a post about Jeb? Did Jeb fix it?

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    beltane says:

    @Ruckus: “Things must change in order to stay the same.”

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @satby: supposedly there’s stuff in the offing that will make us “stand up and clap”,

    I thought maybe that was from a new internal campaign memo from Jeb!

    Reply function works for me, but I would also like to see numbered comments come back, and less whitespace.

    Is the fact that I long for grey an indication of depression?

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    Baud says:

    @Mike J:

    I’m on the mobile site, so I don’t have the next post icon. It’s at the top of the page on the mobile site.

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    I miss the old format. I find the nth degree of redundancy annoying
    Header says Balloon Juice
    Then the first page says Balloon Juice blog

    WTF is a quote rotator? Everything doesn’t need a caption. We are not in kindergarten.

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    I think it’s there to poop on Jeb. Just my interpretation, of course.

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    Baud says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    By the way, thanks for letting me hang out at your place yesterday.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Mike J:

    Nobody cares about his favorite apps.

    Thought was Tinder?

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    satby says:

    @Ruckus: good change is always positive… poorly thought out ones, not so much.

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    The Sailor says:

    so far, this sucks. And not in a good way.
    The colors are all wrong, you can’t see the buttons, and waaaay too much white space.
    But that’s just me, YMMV.

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    @Baud: You are always welcome over there.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    ‘scuse me while I pat myself on the back…

    ‏@ benshapiro
    White males, those universally despised creatures, gave women the vote, @ crproudman, and not because Meryl Streep threw molotov cocktails.

    Memory fades, the lights of snarkness past grow dim… Is this the erstwhile Virgin Ben, or was that Domenech? and are both or just BD frequent token annoyances on the Hayes show (where Comcast has crapped out in the middle of the Krugman interview)?

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Baud: She’s always nasty, but not about the Permanent Republicans or other very serious persons. If MoDo feels safe attacking Poppy — never mind Jeb — the Bush Dynasty is in serious trouble.

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    beltane says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I do not care for all the whitespace. Nature abhors a vacuum and so do my eyes.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: IMO there seems to be an element of commercialism somewhere, like a product for sale and if you repeat it enough times in the first eyeballs you may close a sale.
    I’m not sure why the Recent Posts are all crammed at the top in a list view. I have no idea who the author is, or what the lead-in is. Is it a DougJ play on music titles and favorite songs from the winter of 1978 that I could care less about? Is it a Mayhew referee story where technique is involved? Heaven forbid I have to scroll down a little to see the blurb that goes with each post before I decide to click on it. Which is what I was going to do anyway, so why cram them up my cramhole instead of just listing posts?

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    Baud says:

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone):

    That’s Trump’s job.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Baud: Us front-pagers need to choose “an image” (in this case, my dog Zevon). I was supposed to be able to disable that image for a particular post, but while the embed function worked, the ‘disable’ button didn’t. Learning curve…

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    Corner Stone says:

    Colts just snakebit this season. I like Luck but this season is heading toward epic levels of disappoint.

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    @Corner Stone: After the redesign, the blog has become less functional and less pretty. We seem to have sacrificed both form and function.

    ETA: What is with the tiny fonts and huge amounts of white space. There are about 4 comments visible on my laptop screen.

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    Baud says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    Zevon! You don’t post enough pictures of him.

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    Mike J says:


    That’s Trump’s job.

    The guy who thinks America sucks and likes making fun of the disabled? Check out his new book.

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    raven says:

    The whiners have arrived.

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    Corner Stone says:


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    Anne Laurie says:


    And any ‘spark’ I do see in Rubio is sprayed on PR BS, not the real thing.

    You can totally see his handlers giving him a full-body coat of the craft-chain glitter glue so popular with eight-year-olds, though!

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    The Sailor says:

    MNF is my team playing.
    Go Colts, oh, fuck me. The offense can’t block and now the center can’t snap. Seriously, it wasn’t even a long snap, grab it and put it up between your ass and your cup.

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    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Right, Virgin Ben, and white people gave civil rights to black Americans out of the goodness of their hearts and not because of any boycotts or marches. History is easy when you ignore all facts and context!

    (Ben Shapiro is The Virgin Ben, Ben Domenech is The Plagiarist Ben.)

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    @raven: Tell us how much you love the redesign.

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    Corner Stone says:

    INT CAR!
    That was absolutely awful play by Luck. Just bad, bad, bad. IOW, not good.

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    Baud says:

    @Mike J:

    He completely bigfooted my upcoming book Syphilitic America.

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    Miki says:

    Okay then – here’s a Pap + Hugo. He’s gorgeous. And wicked smart. And so not a coincidence.

    Research good breeders and you’ll a Hugo.

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    The Republican debate revolt seems to be coming apart. Trump says he’ll negotiate directly with the networks. Christie and Fiorina won’t sign the letter. I blame Obama.

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    @Corner Stone:
    Feel free to nip on over to some other blog rather than continuing to struggle with this one.

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    The Sailor says:

    WTF is the deal with a whole page down of black space at the bottom!?

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    Corner Stone says:

    I do like the “Last Post” “Next” place markers that stay with you no matter where you are in the thread. You can refresh and see there’s something new without having to scroll all the way to the bottom. The “All the way up” arrow is also useful, IMO.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Corner Stone

    : If I wanted to be surrounded by so much whiteness I’d buy a ticket to CPAC.

    Give Tommy credit, it *is* less blindingly white than it was last night. For which my aging eyes are grateful!

    There will be a learning curve on both sides here, but — as I’m sure you remember — it’s nowhere near as godsawful as previous site migrations, so there’s that.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Roger Moore: Feel free to go fuck yourself.

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    redshirt says:

    @Roger Moore: But we’d lose Corner Stone’s live blogging of Texan games!

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Iowa Old Lady: Tweety keeps asking, “Is this even a political party any longer?”
    May be one of the more trenchant points he’s ever made.

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    raven says:

    @Anne Laurie: Don’t even bother.

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    redshirt says:

    @Corner Stone: Better add him to the old pie filter.

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    @The Sailor: It provides diversity, balances the abundance of white space everywhere.

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    @Anne Laurie:

    I like my explanation better.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Delayed QB draw? Designed run?

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    chris says:

    Whoa! People this is FYWP remember. If you think it sucks out here imagine what it’s like in the boiler room. No need to worry about the poisonous snakes they’ve all been killed by the spiders.
    Seems like there’s one brave soul, Tommy, working on it. Give him a chance.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Riverboat Ron going for it on 4th down & 1 near goal.
    TD CAR
    This Colts D just has nothing going for it and it’s making Andrew Luck take waayyy too much on himself. That earlier INT was just an awful series of choices by a Luck who obviously feels if he doesn’t do it no one else will. And he’s right. So…

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    Anoniminous says:

    Interesting cover of Gangsta’s Paradise.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yep — Shapiro is Technically-No-Longer-Since-Legally-Married Virgin Ben. Domenisch is Plagiarist & RedState Founder Ben. They are both Disgraces to A Good Name, IMO. And distinguishing the writings of one from the other is best left to specialists — like parsing species of carrion beetles.

    ETA: And Mnem beat me to it!

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    raven says:

    There is a video intro to the new look that Tommy put together, I’m sure some of you experts can run over there and find a bunch of shit to cry about too. Fucking douche bags,

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    Fair Economist says:

    @Corner Stone: It’s really a tragedy, but I guess you’ll just have to stop commenting. Don’t worry, much as we’ll miss you, we’ll soldier on.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Fair Economist: See my reply to Roger Moore at comment #…hmmm.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Corner Stone: I really, really, really miss comment numbers.

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    Corner Stone says:

    I love it when they say, “they have to play complementary football!”
    “Friend, your ass looks fabulous in that uni!”
    “Thanks, you! BTW, you look great in that mayflower blue, really brings out the green in your eyes!”

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    Better add him to the old pie filter.

    Too bad the pie filter doesn’t seem to be working after the redesign.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Tell that to the countless penii in this thread.

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    The Sailor says:

    @chris: Whoa! People this is FYWP remember.

    I would quote that, except the buttons are the same color as the text on the buttons.

    And no, they didn’t have to change anything. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
    Some of you may recognize the crossed wrench & rubber logo, if I could find a way to post it: If you can’t fix it, fuck it.

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    Chyron HR says:


    There is a video intro to the new look that Tommy put together

    The fact that someone felt it necessary to make an instructional video teaching people how to read the new website is in itself a red flag.

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    Mike J says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Menu->View->Page Style->No Style.

    Looks almost as good as it does in lynx, but has comment numbers.

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    raven says:

    @Chyron HR: A red flag of what, it takes time to make a major change?

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    @Ruckus: I am completely disoriented. Balloon Juice seems odd somehow, the sun is gone yet it’s barely six, & now wet stuff falls from the skies. Not long ’til the meteors, I guess.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    I repeat: Looks like TransCanada has withdrawn their request for the State Department to approve the Keystone pipeline. Not officially dead, but it looks like it’s in critical condition.

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    raven says:

    @The Sailor: It hasn’t worked on Chrome for six motherfucking months. Is that what you call “if it ain’t broke”?

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    eemom says:

    hey, is the blogfixer Tommy any relation to —

    Nah, never mind.

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    BTW has anyone actually watched the instructional video?

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Miki: Oh, Hugo is indeed gorgeous!

    Zevon is a rescue, and quite smart, but not particularly ‘typy’. Apart from his ‘wolfy’ head, he’s got an incorrect double coat (not to mention a chronic skin issue that the vet says usually occurs in cockers or poodles) and he’s just over 12″ at the shoulder (at least a third bigger than a show Papillon). He has the winning Pap-ersonality in spades, though!

    My first Papillon (first dog) was a ‘pet prospect’ from one of the top breeders — another oversized boy, who is fondly remembered by everyone who ever met him. Our next two were also from that breeder (one retired show girl, another not-quite-up-to-those-standards yearling). The four since then have been acquired off the internet, three from breed rescues & one from Petfinder.

    The Spousal Unit & I both hope to own another adorable Papillon puppy some day… but right now our three variously “imperfect” rescues are as much as we can handle!

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    Baud says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    I did. It’s a blast.

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    @Baud: Does it have cats? Those are the only videos I like to watch online.

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    The Sailor says:

    @raven: “A red flag of what, it takes time to make a major change? ”

    They had time, or didn’t you notice how long the whole site was down?

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    raven says:

    @The Sailor: You are serious right?

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    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think only Domenich appears on MSNBC. Guess it’s harder to plagiarize live.

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    Baud says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Not that I recall.

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    chris says:

    @Anne Laurie: Back in the day before he got caught Ben Domenech was Box Turtle Ben. round about the time Cole saw the light IIRC. Good times!

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    The Sailor says:

    “It hasn’t worked on Chrome for six motherfucking months. Is that what you call “if it ain’t broke”? ”

    It still doesn’t.

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    Big Picture Pathologist says:

    This is a bit unfair… I read a number of articles on JS and even I didn’t hear of that particular slogan.

    Don’t let this defense obscure the fact I find Jeb tied for first with Ted Cruz for most loathsome candidate.

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    raven says:

    Nutella says:
    November 2, 2015 at 6:46 pm
    Can I just say that, as a web app developer, I’m glad I’ve never had to deal with UX demands from a hundred snarling jackals (aka site users) on go-live day demanding more changes or fewer changes that must be done or undone right now? I usually have 2 or 3 clients sending me bug reports and feature requests and that’s plenty to deal with.

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    raven says:

    @The Sailor: Maybe you can get your money back.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Baud: @schrodinger’s cat: I watched it as well.

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    redshirt says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Too bad the pie filter doesn’t seem to be working after the redesign.

    Gasp! I have to look at posts I don’t agree with?!?!?!

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    raven says:

    a hundred snarling jackals (aka site users)

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    ed_finnerty says:


    $100 million and they come up with “Jeb! will fix it”

    what is he Goober Pyle

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    @Omnes Omnibus: And? Does it finally reveal where the mustard is?

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    Mike J says:

    There’s been a lot of talk about this next song, maybe, maybe too much talk. This is not a rebel song.

    There’s been a lot of talk

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    Miki says:

    @Anne Laurie: Hugo is oversize – probably close to 13 inches. His breeder knew he would be a big boy. I don’t think she knew he would be so gorgeous! He has a ginormous personality – my friend was a bit overwhelmed by it for a time. But they’ve figured out how to live together and both of them have blossomed! I adore him. I’ve been sucked in by poodles (standard and miniature) for the last 20 years but my next breed will be a Pap. They’re darned near perfect.

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    @redshirt: I have never pied anyone. The closest I have come was A guy. I found his graphic descriptions of killing pets/chickens/squirrels etc. sickening.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Mike J: Menu->View->Page Style->No Style.


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    Baud says:


    It was known.

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    The Sailor says:

    @raven: I used to do this shit for a living. No, you don’t roll it out when it doesn’t work, you roll it back.

    What, it’s developed for IE? It doesn’t work on Chrome, it doesn’t work on Firefox, it doesn’t work on Safari.
    And you didn’t notice the whole site was down yesterday to roll this out!?

    With your mad skillz I’m sure you could have changed the local CSS to make Chrome work for you. And obviously, you did something, you’ve been here all along.

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    raven says:

    @The Sailor: What do you do now, roving critic?

    eta I didn’t do anything. I started using it on Chrome and it worked. It used to simply freeze up.

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    gah says:

    not liking this redesign one bit. it’s just garish to my eyes, and doesn’t seem to solve anything from before…

    at some level, i’m resistant to change, like most humans, but when i try to climb above that sentiment, i still don’t understand what the gain is here. it’s clunky, ugly, and even less accessible than it was previously….

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    @Big Picture Pathologist:

    It sounds like it was the name of Savile’s long-running TV show, not a slogan. One of those things that would be instantly familiar to Brits but not to Americans.

    So it’s more that the Brits are snickering at Jeb’s cluelessness than that it’s something everyone in the US should have known.

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    The Sailor says:

    The only thing worse than the MNF game is the announcers for it.

    Wow, maybe the refs.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @efgoldman: if Jeb is Goober, then Dumbya is Gomer?

    Well, gooo-ooo–ooo-LY

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    Kay says:

    I’m like a Bush dead-ender at this point. I’m still convinced he manages to pull this out. I don’t know how! They’ll think of something!

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    @Kay: So tell us what or who is your avatar photo?

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    Baud says:


    If anyone can fix this, Jeb can.

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    I did. It was very basic.

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:


    You lie!

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    Kay says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Do we have avatar photos? Do you have one?

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    PaulW says:

    My two cents about Jeb’s? disaster of a rebrand effort.


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    gogol's wife says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    I did. It wasn’t very enlightening.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Kay: Gossip on Tweety was there are more shoes to drop on Li’l Marco’s comingling” of personal and party money. I think they used to call it “grifting”, if not “embezzlement”

    I think that’s the kind of thing that sticks if he starts to stumble. The big threat to him I think is trump talking about immigration.

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    Baud says:


    He’s already got the ass part down.

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    redshirt says:

    @The Sailor: You’re being a little dramatic.

    And I don’t recall many posts from you – do you only contribute to complain?

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    I just want Jeb…? to stay in the race, only so Mommy has to spend months worrying her beautiful mind with the fact that the country has finally, at long last, figured out that she raised nothing but parasites and trash.

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    Ruckus says:

    None of this is aimed at you, it’s just a rant on my part. I just came back to BJ and checked in and your post is one of the first I saw.

    For about the sixth time, I like it. Would I have changed it if it were my blog? Have no idea but it seemed rather clunky and some days worked very poorly. For me this is better. Yes it’s new, yes I’ll have to get used to it, it’s no longer my internet blankie. But in the last 3 yrs I’ve gone from having no job and no money and sleeping on a friends floor to having a job that pays decent to living in a nice apartment. Of course I go tomorrow for a biopsy, I’m under the care of a neurologist for a possible debilitating disease with no cure, I’m having a migraine for the third week in a row, so maybe I’m still trying to look for the brighter sides of things.
    Many here are not privileged but the complaining about how horrible this is has become very tiring in the over all scope of things as I see it and to me is a classic case of first world problems. I’ve got much bigger fish to fry than how someones blog looks. And yes I spend an inordinate amount of time here like many others. It just isn’t all that important.

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    Kay says:


    Not him. That family. I always thought George HW was vicious, but I never like the moderates as much as other people do.

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    Anne Laurie says:


    Do we have avatar photos?

    The Site Designers would like all us front-pagers to pick “an image”, as I understand it. Not sure it’s the best way to flag separate posters on this particular blog — as people have mentioned, poor Zevon doesn’t deserve to be associated with #FailBush — but this is still a work in progress.

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    redshirt says:

    It’s so weird the Bushes are like secret Mainers. Maine out out there, man.

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    ed_finnerty says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I have a hard time believing this rebranding is even real

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    raven says:

    @Ruckus: Good luck tomorrow.

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    Kay says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Oh, good. The Florida state GOP was horribly corrupt and that was during his rise. I don’t know though- Republican voters seem not to care about corruption anymore. They’re so belligerent now “so? who cares? they’re all crooks” It kind of fits into (fake) anti-government postures they take.

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    Baud says:


    Well, I think the “like” of H.W. is purely relative.

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    The Sailor says:

    @raven: For a lot of reasons, I’m in a shitty mood tonight. I apologize to you and everyone else here.
    (But I still hate the bloglift;-)

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    gogol's wife says:

    @The Sailor:

    You don’t have to apologize to anyone. They were asking for comments on the redesign, so they should get comments.

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    raven says:

    @The Sailor: Hang tough man, it don’t mean nuthin.

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    Anne Laurie says:


    I always thought George HW was vicious, but I never like the moderates as much as other people do.

    GHWB is the grandson of a man who made his fortune enabling Nazis and the son of a man who climbed to his Senate seat playing footsie with Joe McCarthy. Anybody who expected CIA head “Poppy” Bush to be other than a self-serving monster just wasn’t paying attention. And gods know, nothing he did from his introduction to the national stage going forward has been anything but self-serving and monstrous!

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    gogol's wife says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    So that’s why every Zandar post today had a tipping-over matryoshka doll or something. I didn’t see how it was relevant to every post he was writing. Now I get it. It’s like the little purple-people-eater avatars they gave all the commenters once.

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    The Sailor says:

    @redshirt: “And I don’t recall many posts from you – do you only contribute to complain?”

    I mainly lurk.

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    gogol's wife says:

    @The Sailor:

    Stop lurking and join the (inane) conversation :)

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    Debbie says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Help me understand your objections. I just looked at your blog and the font’s much smaller.

    My eyes are beyond aging and I admit I’d like a slightly larger font and a little less leading, but I don’t get the ceaseless carping (and it’s barely been 24 hours!). People have voiced their gripes and made their requests and that should be enough. Saying it more won’t make it magically change.

    Thank the universe I did not become a kindergarten teacher. I wouldn’t have lasted.

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    normal liberal says:

    Thanks to Tommy for all the work he’s done already, even since this went live – I can now resize on my iPad, for example. Perhaps he gets some time to work through the list in John’s post below? I too would like comment numbers, more contrast on various buttons and so on, but Rome wasn’t built, etc., especially when some of the earlier coding was apparently done in Julius Caesar’s day.

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    Anne Laurie says:


    It’s so weird the Bushes are like secret Mainers.

    Only in exile to “summer” together. Bar & Poppy were among the original WASP Aryans from Darien, CT, before the state was overrun with NYC day-trippers and those people in Hartford.

    Dubya’s not leaving Texas, nor Jeb! Florida (unless the posse catches up with them). Those big Sunbelt states are much more amenable to the Boomer-Bush generation’s unvarnished grifterism.

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    Kay says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    Thanks. I was afraid it was for commenters and we all had one but I just didn’t see mine for some reason. I’m using my son’s Chromebook.

    I didn’t get asked to pick an avatar but I don’t blame them- I hardly ever post anymore. If I ever start again I’ll have to pick one, that is if I can still get into the editor and figure out how to post.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Anne Laurie: JEb reminds me of Poppy in that he’s willing to be as dirty as a turd blossom (to pick an image at random), just not very good at it.

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    Ruckus says:


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    Corner Stone says:


    Many here are not privileged but the complaining about how horrible this is has become very tiring in the over all scope of things as I see it and to me is a classic case of first world problems. I’ve got much bigger fish to fry than how someones blog looks.

    Complaining…about people complaining…about how a blog looks. And you’re going to go with that sounds like first world problems?

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    The Sailor says:

    @gogol’s wife: “Stop lurking and join the (inane) conversation :) ”

    I’ve been hanging out for years. The first time I commented I introduced myself, like a polite guest, explained my ‘nym, but I don’t usually say anything if I got nuttin’ to say.

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    Keith G says:

    @The Sailor:

    I would quote that, except the buttons are the same color as the text on the buttons.

    The button in question changes color when the pointer passes over it. I would hope that that level of effort does not present an insurmountable barrier to blog commenting.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @gogol’s wife:

    So that’s why every Zandar post today had a tipping-over matryoshka doll or something.

    I think it’s a Weeble, like his contact address (but even my youngest sibs were too old for 70s toys).

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Keith G: Nobody asked you!

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @efgoldman: remember pork rinds and the Oak Ridge Boys? jus’ folks!

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    Kay says:

    Tommy, if you’re reading it looks fine and it seems speedier somehow. It just takes a little getting used to, but thanks for agreeing to do it.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: At the end, we are sworn to secrecy. I can’t tell you.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: At some point this afternoon, Tommy had taken off the title “Wisdom????” and the tag was there alone. Then “Quote rotator” appeared. Yeah, we really don’t need being told that there’s the rotating tag line.

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    redshirt says:

    @Anne Laurie: Weebles wobble but they don’t fall down.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Anne Laurie:
    There is a reason it’s generally known as the Bush crime family.
    I’m nearly half Sicilian and family story, great grandfather was asked to leave Sicily as he was supposed to be a huge asshole in his role as an enforcer. So if this is true and one believes in things like original sin, sins of the father, etc I’m worse than any Bush. But I haven’t started any wars, or lacked the empathy of a flat rock, made money from supporting monsters or mobsters or actually been either one of those or benefited from same, so I’m thinking not so much for me being worse. I have gotten a speeding ticket before though, so there is that.

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    sukabi says:

    @efgoldman: a lively game of last man standing for the repulsive primary? ¡Jeb! will have to get better help to come out on top…

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    Ruckus says:

    @Corner Stone:
    One thing I do miss is that the pie filter no longer works and I have to see your posts. Now that’s a bridge too far.

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    @Debbie: My blog is a free blog hosted on, and your point is well taken. I am going to upgrade to the paid version so that I have more control over what it looks like. Compared to Balloon Juice my readership is minuscule.

    Besides, what does my blog have to do with the Balloon Juice upgrade?

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    @Debbie: BTW show me where I have complained about the tiny font?

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    Kay says:


    I just didn’t “get” them, the elder Bush couple. When people would say Bar Bush reminded them of their mother or grandmother I was thinking “really? to you..grandmother?” She has mean eyes.

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    @Kay: No only front pagers get to have one. I am afraid I belong to the commenting caste so I no gets one.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Ruckus: And you see, I get that. You’re an old ass broke dick joke. You have nothing to say that anyone wants to see or read. You make a lot of words about things. Good for you!

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @The Sailor: I don’t know about anyone else but when I hover my cursor over the format buttons, I see white text on a burgundy background.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: Christ, I hope avatars aren’t going to be a feature of the upgraded comments.

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    @Omnes Omnibus: I agree, I was just teasing Kay.

    ETA: I have no idea why Zandar’s avatar is a matroishka doll? Is he a Russian spy?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Ruckus: It’s really a tragedy, but I guess you’ll just have to stop commenting. Don’t worry, much as we’ll miss you, we’ll soldier on.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: Hey, mine on twitter is a stuffed monkey reading Shakespeare.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Corner Stone:
    I see my decision to ignore you long ago was correct.
    Fuck you asshole.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Ruckus: Feel free to nip on over to some other blog rather than continuing to struggle with this one.

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    Another Holocene Human says:

    @redshirt: The Bushes are from Milton, MA, where the chocolate factory is. (Unless they’re from CT and I’m confused, which is possible.) Sadly, the factory shut down but the Bush clan is still with us.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Ruckus: Hahaha. Try and get back to it, couch surfer. You have so much to share with us all, truly.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @The Sailor: The site was down for a few hours — how awful is that, really. I waited until midnight to re-open and found it had been up for some time by that point. You can’t live without a particular site for a few hours? I suggest getting a life.

    ETA: I do issues with the new design — the lack of comment numbers and the size of the typeface. I noted those in the appropriate thread and look forward to seeing the response from Cole and Tommy.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @efgoldman: Hahahaha. If I had a comment number to point you to, I would.
    Otherwise, maybe take a look at this thread, assface.

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    @Omnes Omnibus: My gravtar is my kitteh boss, Yogi.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Kay: I admit I fell for that schtick for a long time. In the eighties, she was often favorably compared to Nancy Reagan. I used to think MoDo was being silly (back when I had some regard for MoDo) when she talked about the Luca Brazzi of the WASP Corleones. Now, after watching the clan for almost thirty years, I think she understated it. She’s Luca, Barzini, Tataglia, Tessio and Hyman Roth rolled into one.

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    Debbie says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Check the ETA section of the post I was replying to. I can’t copy and paste text on my iPad.

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    @Debbie: OK I should have been more clear, its not the font size I mind, its the huge amounts of white space compared to the font size. The tiny font size in the sea of white space looks like vegetation in the tundra. I don’t see the point. Of course, YMMV.

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    @schrodinger’s cat:

    FWIW, you did say “tiny font” in a comment at 8:36 pm.

    I’ve been able to scale the font to a legible size on the iPad by double-tapping, so I’m okay with it.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @Ruckus: Hoping the biopsy comes back negative for bad stuff.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Tolbert. That dude is a serious load.

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    Anne Laurie says:


    When people would say Bar Bush reminded them of their mother or grandmother I was thinking “really? to you..grandmother?” She has mean eyes.

    Have to admit: Behind their backs (mostly), we referred to my grandmothers as the Dragon Lady and the Toad Queen.

    They were, in their separate ways, excellent role models for a smart-mouthed little girl, but they did have beady little mean Irish eyes!

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    Corner Stone says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    The tiny font size in the sea of white space looks like vegetation in the tundra. I don’t see the point.

    Global warming, babee.

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    Doug R says:

    @raven: It’s like a republican debate in here-it looks exactly the same on my phone as before.

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    I haven’t tried out the iPad version yet, in part because the inability to copy/paste on the previous version drove me nuts. It sounds like the problem still exists?

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    Debbie says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Design now is all about white space, but I agree there’s a point where it becomes wasted space.

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    Debbie says:

    @Mnemosyne (tablet):

    For me, yes. I can copy and paste urls but not sentences. My skills could be the problem.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Jonathan Stewart is just beating this Colts D all by hisself.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Debbie: People aren’t obligated to like the redesign.

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    Corner Stone says:

    How could CAR be on the brink of winning their 11th straight game? Did they win the shadow Superbowl somehow?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: You are requested to go somewhere else and do that thing there.

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    Another Holocene Human says:

    The white space jarred me at first, but I find it very user-friendly on this Mac/Chrome. Scroll is fast. I would have stopped seeing it by now if not for the umpteen comments about white space. *shrug*

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    The Sailor says:

    @PurpleGirl: It’s hard to find the buttons when you can’t see them.
    It makes no more sense than expecting to wield supreme power just ’cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Another Holocene Human:

    I would have stopped seeing it by now if not for the umpteen comments about white space. *shrug*


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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Corner Stone: I respectfully decline to comply with your request. Also, I’m staying open-minded about the redesign until it gets finalized. For now, it is a work in progress.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Wow. That was actually an amazing throw by Cam. Woah, Cam.
    Nice job, CAR.

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    Debbie says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    No, but they ought to hold off until it’s been finalized.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Nope. NOPE. NOAP.
    You got something to say? Go the fuck somewhere else!
    It’s amazeballs, don’t you know? Amazeballs!

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @The Sailor: I’m looking at them right now. There is a black outline and when I hover the cursor, I see the text in white on burgundy. How hard is it to bring the cursor over since you have to to click on the box anyway. I’m using Firefox and Win XP (yes, still, I can’t afford a new computer right now or new peripherals and software).

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    J R in WV says:

    My take on JEB!#$ Can Fix It! was the 2000 election, when he and his Secretary of State cleaned many Democrats from the voter’s lists, sent broken voting machines to Democratic voting stations, and generally trashed the system of democracy in Florida, to fix the election for George W “Shrub” Bush.

    He’ll need to do a lot of fixin’ to take the 2016 race, I can tell you that!

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Debbie: They’ve been asking for comments. It’s motherfucking Day 1.
    Joe Fucking Biden Literally.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Debbie: Bringing up issues and preferences is what commenters have been asked to do. Bitching about the timeline for things getting “fixed;” well, that’s another thing.

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    Kay says:


    nor mentioned in the release is the fact that both Brzezinski and Scarborough earlier this year attended a weekend in Palm Springs, California, for the American Recovery Policy Forum, put on by the Kochs’ organization, the tax-exempt Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce.
    The weekend was closed to the public and the media but nevertheless contained many members of the press — including ABC News’ Jonathan Karl — who networked with donors, business leaders and other denizens of the Koch kingdom. Also in attendance were presidential candidates Sen. Rand Paul, Sen. Ted Cruz and Sen. Marco Rubio, who headlined the event with an informal debate around “free markets and the role of government.”
    Neither MSNBC nor the Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce would answer questions about whether the Koch organization paid the travel or other expenses for the MSNBC hosts.
    Once the MSNBC duo returned to New York to tape their show, they treated viewers to several days of glowing reports from their trip to Kochland. Brzezinski, the resident liberal to Scarborough’s cranky-but-lovable conservative persona, raved for two days about the unappreciated passions of the “awesome” oil magnates as her male co-host nodded beside her.
    “They’re definitely not what you think,” Brzezinski said the first day back. “I mean, it’s everything that you don’t think, and you don’t know,” she went on the next day. “There are different facets of the story you get to see when you actually go and observe events like this.”
    “Liz Koch, ever met her?” Brzezinski continued, mentioning Charles Koch’s wife. “She’s a ball of fire! And she’s got this incredible program for helping the poorest of the poor kids in several inner cities that she’s developed.”

    You have to look at the photo, too. I had a car that came with satellite radio and I found myself (essentially) listening to Morning Joe because I disliked all of them so much. I have a different car so I don’t do it anymore, which is probably healthier.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Kay: Joe asked this morning why there was not a single Republican advisor in big media. Why can’t we hire at least one Republican operative?

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    Cervantes says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    GHWB is the grandson of a man who made his fortune enabling Nazis and the son of a man who climbed to his Senate seat playing footsie with Joe McCarthy.

    Hmm … If his grandfather was his father, that might help explain something about Jeb and George W.

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    Cervantes says:

    @Another Holocene Human:

    The Bushes are from Milton, MA, where the chocolate factory is.

    Hmm … How are the Bushes connected to Walter Baker’s long-ago chocolate empire?

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    Corner Stone says:

    That’s the Andrew Luck I’m talking about!!

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    Corner Stone says:

    This is starting to get into the nuts territory.

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    Corner Stone says:


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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Corner Stone: Are you Tony McAuliffe all of a sudden?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Can you imagine how badass it would’ve been to be that guy?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Corner Stone: An artillery officer with jump wings? Been there done that. Being the guy asked to surrender at the Battle of the Bulge? No, it reads like a film script, but is actually real.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Corner Stone: There are better ways to spend Christmas.

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    sukabi says:

    @efgoldman: very apropos for this group…perhaps their super Pac funders will hire hitters to take out the competition as well.

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