A couple of semi-tough questions from Jake Tapper are apparently too much for Ben Carson to handle:
“I would have problems with somebody who embraced all the doctrines associated with Islam,” Carson said. “If they are not willing to reject Sharia and all the portions of it that are talked about in the Quran — if they are not willing to reject that, and subject that to American values and the Constitution, then of course, I would.” […]
“You’re assuming that Muslim Americans put their religion ahead of the country,” Tapper said to Carson.
“I’m assuming that if you accept all the tenets of Islam that you would have a very difficult time abiding under the Constitution of the United States,” Carson replied.
The conversation ended when a voice off-camera, which CNN identified as Carson’s campaign manager, Armstrong Williams said, “This interview is over.”
There’s a video at the link – Carson looks semi-comatose. Perhaps it was a bad day for him, but how in the hell can you expect to run for President if you don’t have the political expertise to evade a few Jake Tapper softballs?
redshirt
A bit OT, but I just watched 60 Minutes and have to ask if that was considered good TV?
TomG
Wait…Ben Carson’s campaign manager is Armstrong “No Child Left Behind” Williams? That figures.
Those two deserve each other.
the Conster
For someone supposedly smart, his inability to see the irony of a Christian fundamentalist like himself who denies evolution stating he would have a problem with a Muslim as president because of their religious beliefs is really coocoo bananas. They’re all coocoo bananas.
dmsilev
Last time round, I sort of got the sense that some of the Not-Romneys never really expected to have their brief moment at or near the top of the heap, and showed pretty quickly that they were out of their depth. Suspect the same thing is happening with Carson.
Fiorina is a different sort of beast. She’s faster on her feet with the lies, and bullshits at a much higher level.
Baud
More gotcha questions from the liberal media.
jo6pac
He is a dr. so we can all imagine the proscription he has written himself? Cocktails at 7;)
redshirt
@Baud: The CBS guy asked Putin if he thought Obama was weak.
It was such a bullshit question – among many – that pissed me of.
MikeBoyScout
All praise & glory to the FSM for enabling me to not be taken in by the likes of ‘Dr.’ Carson and the unten(et)able GOP
Baud
@redshirt:
I would have become a huge Putin fan if he had said “Not as weak as Reagan.”
A guy can dream.
Elizabelle
@efgoldman: I think the censors may not allow the word “Republican” in some uses.
As in, Anne Thompson whining about the dysfunction in Washington, and no one talks to anyone anymore.
Uh, no. The Republican radicals have started eating their own, but you won’t hear about that. It’s just “Washington is broken.”
On purpose. By Republicans.
Baud
@efgoldman:
Coincidentally, I plan to spend a good portion of my two terms on horseback and shirtless.
Baud
@Elizabelle:
The certainly don’t allow “Republican” and “lie” in the same sentence.
Keith G
Silly Wabbit.
@redshirt:
Why? That’s a legit question. Putin and Obama are playing a bit of high stakes poker. I would be curious how Putin would formulate his response.
Keith G
Silly Wabbit.
@redshirt:
Why? That’s a legit question. Putin and Obama are playing a bit of high stakes p0ker. I would be curious how Putin would formulate his response.
Iowa Old Lady
@dmsilev: There’s research showing that people confuse confidence with competence. Fiorina comes across as totally confident in every bullshit thing she’s saying. Even when I know she’s lying, all I see is absolute certainty.
Baud
@efgoldman:
I’m trying to recruit Elizabelle as my Veep, although I’m not sure she has the fire in her belly you need for a grueling run for the White House.
I’m not sure what office I’d appoint Cole to. Maybe the Official White House Cat Ass Shaver.
Baud
@Iowa Old Lady:
As a completely confident person, I can vouch for the accuracy of those studies.
Elizabelle
@Baud: Veteran’s Affairs for Cole! He can cat shave on his own time.
ETA: And maybe he’d embark on one. That would be cool.
Baud
@efgoldman:
That’s my concern too. I’ve seen her cut the GOP like a scalple on this blog, but it’s tough to do it every day on cue.
Valdivia hasn’t posted in a while, but she could help me with the Latino vote. I hope she’s lurking.
Baud
@Elizabelle:
Haven’t our Vets been through enough?
Baud
@efgoldman:
Easily. That’s a no brainer.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Baud: If Elizabelle is unwilling, and you want to balance the ticket with both genders, I’m available. And I don’t live in RI.
JPL
@Baud: Are you running as a Republican or Democrat? Of course, you can invent your own party. Religious freedom would be a sure win, although I personally am sick of seeing masses on TV.
Elizabelle
Eclipse is starting.
Light scattered clouds in NoVA. Moon is so bright, can see it beautifully.
Bright white. No tinge of red. Yet.
Baud
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
I believe the appropriate term is “transgender.”
Heliopause
The tenets of Christianity quite clearly call for radical pacifism and indifference to secular affairs. Yet, 2000 years of Christians have managed to square that apparent circle.
redshirt
@Elizabelle: A dragon begins to eat the moon.
Baud
@efgoldman:
Swing state. Would have been helful.
@JPL:
I’m running as a D, of course. I’ll be there when Hillary and Bernie falter.
Baud
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
BTW, what do you have against RI?
Are you really in Idaho?
sharl
@TomG: You beat me to it! As soon as I saw the name Armstrong Williams, I wondered what swamp he has been lurking in all these years. Yep, there was his Dubya-era taxpayer-funded advocacy for NCLB, kept quiet until USA Today discovered the payment via FOIA document releases.
Before he left to co-found Black Agenda Report, Glen Ford co-authored several pieces on Armstrong Williams and others in the vanguard of conservative AA political commentary, like this 2002 article which specifically addressed the manner by which the TV show America’s Black Forum came to be co-opted by AA conservative front men for Roger Ailes and his ilk, including Armstrong (and Juan) Williams (I don’t think those guys are related).
Elizabelle
Who can see this alleged Supermoon? Reports from around the country?
jl
@Iowa Old Lady:
‘ There’s research showing that people confuse confidence with competence. Fiorina comes across as totally confident in every bullshit thing she’s saying. Even when I know she’s lying, all I see is absolute certainty. ‘
I’m beginning to wonder if Fiorina is a little crazy too. She is tripling down on her total pack of lies about Planned Parenthood. She insists there is evidence that PP keeps fetuses alive to harvest their organs for profit. She says she has seen video of it someplace, with her own eyes.
Fiorina: Planned Parenthood Aborts Alive Fetuses To Harvest Their Organs (VIDEO)
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/carly-fiorina-planned-parenthood-fetuses
satby
@Elizabelle: Yeah, lots of clouds here, we barely glimpsed the beginning of the eclipse when they rolled in thicker. So no eclispe for me and the girls tonight. I guess prayers must now be said during the eclipse too. Who knew (besides Amir)?
I did introduce them to the best film ever, Casablanca, this afternoon. Much surprise from the young’uns on how entertaining a black and white film could be.
JPL
@Elizabelle: Not here…
Baud
@jl:
Holy cow. She’s got a whole Matrix fantasy going.
Baud
What’s supposed to be so special about tonight’s moon?
Iowa Old Lady
@jl: Crazy or Evil may be a variation of the Stupid or Evil choice.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Baud: Nothing against RI; I had your state confused with efgoldman’s. I don’t live in Idaho – I took the nym from when Sarah told Doug J(Jarvis Green-Ellis, if memory serves) that his temporary nym “sound[ed] like a hip hop artist from Idaho.” I was charmed by the image and appropriated it for my nym.
Baud
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
That’s too bad. I was going to ask you about Idaho. It’s like a mystery state.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Elizabelle: Big and bright in SW OH.
@Baud:
It’s both full and at perigee (closest to the earth in its orbit, making it look bigger and brighter). Moonrise just started here and it is big and bright. Waiting for the eclipse where it will look big and rusty colored.
I’m hoping the weather cooperates in GA for raven to get photos.
Baud
@Iowa Old Lady:
I just clicked on your nym for the first time. First, your not as old as I expected. Second,
OMG. And I thought Jane Goodall deserved respect.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
Good to know Carson ran away (FLEE! FLEE!), wouldn’t have bothered watching. Goes double for the dumpster fire known as 60 Minutes. TRIPLE for the Sunday political genre I like to call “Scare White Guys Over 50.”
Baud
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
Thank you. That seems like it would be something that happens quite frequently. But what do I know?
Bill Arnold
@Elizabelle:
The moon is almost 1/2 eaten by the edge of a round black mouth much larger than it is, as seen here in the lower Hudson Valley. The shadowed part is faintly visible, more so in a scope or binoculars. No clouds for at least another hour here.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@Elizabelle: Cloudy here in the 704. No moon for us.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@efgoldman: Was speaking to the reality they substituted for the real one.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@jl: As Banner said when referring to Loki, you can almost smell the crazy coming off of her.
Iowa Old Lady
@Baud: Funny you should say that! I used ethnographic research methods, studying engineers in their native habitat, in the wild, so to speak.
That picture is about 8 years old, and I have not changed it because time is a cruel mistress.
Just One More Canuck
@Iowa Old Lady:http://www.criminalizeconservatism.com/2014/09/are-conservatives-crazy-and-stupid.html
For your future reference
Baud
@Iowa Old Lady:
I’m sure your current photo would be lovely. Congrats on your new book.
J R in WV
Clouds and light rain in WV tonite. No Eclipse here either.
dmsilev
@Baud: Could be worse. She could be studying the mating habits and rituals of engineers.
psychobroad
Can’t see the moon here (North GA) very frustrating, it’s overcast. My daughter and I keep going outside to check–nothing!
catclub
@Iowa Old Lady:
Dick Cheney read that research.
catclub
Catalonia may be leaving Spain. Given the election results. After a few years of wrangling.
Much clearer than Scotland vote in favor of separation.
geg6
Been spitting rain since sundown here, so no eclipse/blood moon. Bummer.
But we need the rain so I can’t complain too much.
Achrachno
“Carson looks semi-comatose”
Yes, it was disturbing. It seemed like he was struggling just to keep his eyes open. If this were a one-off I’d just think he was exhausted from recent campaigning, but he often seems to have a spaced-out look. I wonder if something is going wrong physiologically. He can’t have always been like this.
Ken
Well, yes. What I’m wondering is how Carson expects any religion with some version of “You shall have no other gods” to reconcile that with “Congress shall pass no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”
Stacy
Got a good picture of the moon in NoVA. Also Carson was in Loudoun County tonight speaking at a local high school. Apparently we’re going to be a very important county to win in VA in 2016.
seaboogie
@Baud: I’m glad I had not just taken a sip of a beverage when I read this…I cannot afford a new laptop just yet.
seaboogie
@Baud: Baud – I’m still saying that Cole would be the best and most profane Press Secretary evarrr….it would just be “Go Fuck Yourselves!” like almost every day. And you are probably going to need that if you are shirtless on horseback – just saying….
ETA, unless you look like Obama does in swim trunks, in which case we will need to see you riding shirtless on any animal that can bear your weight – Pandas maybe?
Elizabelle
@seaboogie:
Speaking of Mr. Cole: he will get a really good look at the moon, won’t he, out in the desert?
If he can get away from the Las Vegas strips and its megawatt lights.
chopper
oh man that alone almost ruined the whole thread for me.
Amir Khalid
I saw that interview video. I don’t know if Ben Carson is really stoned, or if that’s just his calming bedside manner deployed in a political setting. I’d give him the benefit of any doubt, and call it the latter. When it comes to Muslims, he does sound like a bigot, but that doesn’t exactly make him stand out in this Republican field.
TriassicSands
Carson misses the irony that his brand of Christian fanaticism is just as dangerous to democracy and a free society as the Sharia law he condemns. All fundamentalist religions are a threat to free societies if they hold up a supreme being as the source for laws and behavioral standards. There’s enough in the Bible to indict Christianity several times over as being an enemy of freedom.
SFAW
Just saw everyone talking about the eclipse – last night was the first night? I’ll have to try to catch it tonight
SFAW
@TriassicSands:
Kim Davis, Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz, and a boatload of others disagree. They believe it’s only dangerous if someone not-like-them is in power.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Not the idea for the wingnuts – they want someone there to just rant about how everyone else sucks.
Original Lee
@Iowa Old Lady: After I read Baud’s comment, I also clicked on your nym. OMG, I’m pretty sure I read some of your papers when I was in graduate school. Blown away.
The Fat Kate Middleton
@Iowa Old Lady: So, I had to check your nym, too, if only to confirm that we’re almost neighbors. I intend to read your book … and and I have to thank you so much for introducing me to the “dick ribbon of manhood.”
Ella in New Mexico
Yeah, what is UP with those 15-second long eye closures while he’s talking? Does he have some kind of neurological problem?
Or is it what my 18 year-old said the other day: “Man, that Ben Carson is fucked up–dude always looks like he’s on fricking horse tranquilizers!”
SFAW
@Ella in New Mexico:
Many years ago, the Times ran a correction regarding their story reporting the OD deaths (I think) of twin-brother doctors, I believe they were the brothers portrayed by Jeremy Irons in “Dead Ringers.”
In the correction, the Times said that they meant to say that drug addiction among doctors was an occupational hazard, not habit, as had been written in the original obit.
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