Late Night Chiefest Among Media Village Idiots Open Thread

Mark Halperin, always lunging for that pinchbeck crown…

No further replies from Halperin, at least on the public Twitter. I’m assuming his response would run along the lines of “But the optics, Tony! Trump’s optics are reliably A+!”

I badly want to hand that man a drum major’s baton. Preferably one with a Loony Tunes lit fuse at the business end…

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    and this one

    Mark HalperinVerified account
    ‏@ MarkHalperin
    I know a lot of you are going to think I’m kidding, but this might be @ realDonaldTrump’s best speech of the campaign so far. #TrumpClassic

    only Bill Kristol is a surer omen of doom! Is this good news for Ted Cruz?

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    Thoughtful Today says:


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    You know you’re losing when you’ve won Mark Halperin! #losing

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    Jordan Rules says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Have mercy!! No for real! Someone have effin mercy.

    Is he trying to convince himself??

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Good to see you back!

    (note: Forgive me if I’ve missed your comments on earlier threads… )

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    srv says:

    Trump really owned it in Dallas tonight. He has a gravitas none of the other candidates have on stage and people really get it. No teleprompters, no academic bearing, just the real thing.

    If it’s an act, someone should give him an Oscar.

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    Tommy says:

    My mom is close to a life long Republican, well until Obama. It wasn’t Obama that made her change her vote, it was Palin. Mom felt she was shit all stupid. She didn’t want other people to think women were as dumb as Palin. Her vote was that darn simple!

    I told her nobody thinks that as she runs elections in her district. Let me say that again, my mom runs elections in her district, she isn’t stupid!

    It used to like pulling teeth to get my mom to talk to me about politics. Maybe it is generational. Just something you don’t talk about. I pushed her …….

    Only recently since Trump has got poll numbers for weeks on end has she called ME to rant. She is livid.

    If you have lost the 78 white lady you fucked up.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @srv: You’ve become completely silly. It is sad.

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    redshirt says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: So many caricatures these days.

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    srv says:

    The Ayatollah sends his latest threat.

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    Mike E says:


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    NotMax says:

    Sign of the food fad times.

    Took a stroll down the Halloween candy aisles at a big store the other day, just to see if there was anything new that caught the eye (no intention of buying anything – that’s for the day after Halloween, if at all).

    Spied a colorful box with generic holiday cartoon figures. Big, bright, bold letters announcing Healthy! Gluten-free! Kids love ’em! (Also a calorie count per pack.) Quite pricey compared to the usual Halloween sweet fare.

    The product contained little individual packs of cookies, in two flavors, proudly listed in colored blocks on the front.

    Flavor 1: Oatmeal raisin. Pretty standard, even plebeian, right? No big surprise there, albeit kind of dull.

    Flavor 2: Orange/Chocolate/Beet. Really, truly. All I could immediately muse was “An open invitation to having your house egged.”

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    Mike in NC says:

    Halperin is perhaps the lowest of the bottom feeders this go-round. Gotta get that book out in 2017.

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    I finally got tired of my own whining about all of my unfinished projects and picked this baby sweater back up. It turned out I was further along than I remembered, so hooray for that. Now I have to try to not think about my huge backlog of other UFOs, plus the stuff I want to make for my nieces and nephews for Christmas …

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    Suzanne says:

    @NotMax: One year at Halloween, my mom was on a health kick. So she bought individual boxes of cereal for the trick-or-treaters. And it was shit like Rasin Bran, not even Cocoa Puffs or Froot Loops.

    I told her that she deserved everything that happened to her house and that I wouldn’t help clean it up.

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    NotMax says:


    Mom spontaneously decided when I was maybe 11 or 12 that she’d knit me a sweater. Eventually finished it, by which time I was in grad school.

    Sweater did fit her fairly well, though. :)

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    @Anne Laurie: thanks! Good to be back in the land of the living, though I’m not out of the woods yet.

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    IIRC, beet sugar is more common in processed food than cane sugar because it’s way cheaper to manufacture. Funny that they’re now packaging it as a “healthy” alternative when sucrose is sucrose is sucrose.

    Also, too, turns out that the “something” behind the hysteria about HFCS is that fructose intolerance is more common than people realize, so consuming something that’s “high fructose” can cause nasty digestive symptoms in some people. However, evidence seems to show that it’s kind of like MSG — if you don’t have a specific sensitivity to that ingredient, it’s not going to do you any specific harm, though of course too much sugar of any kind is not healthy.

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    Cap'n Phealy says:

    Someone get Trump a pi-ano, and have him play “Those Endearing Young Charms”. Problem solved. You’re welcome.

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    NotMax says:


    Whether or not the cookies contained any beet sugar, cannot say. What they were touting was beet flavor.

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    @Major Major Major Major:

    Hopefully your kitteh has been a good nurse during your convalescence. My late great Boris was a good nurse, but he did reach a point when I was laid up after knee surgery when he had to make it clear that I was disrupting his schedule and didn’t I have somewhere I should be other than his favorite spot on the couch?

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    NotMax says:

    @Cap’n Phealy

    A Private Snafu reference!

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    Anne Laurie says:


    What they were touting was beet flavor.

    Nah, probably just advertising that they were using “healthy” beets instead of Red Dye #whatever. Lots of pseudo-chocolate “organic” products use beets and/or carrots to get the proper dark-red-to-brown tone.

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    Try eating a piece of a beet that’s been roasted, not pickled. What you’ll taste is sugar.

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    @Mnemosyne (tablet): I’m so glad my generation of white people are over the msg hysteria thing. It affects like less than one percent of the population if not fewer than like fifty thousand. But now it’s so entrenched that no business would dare remove the No MSG Added sign for fear of Yelp death (although the wording on those signs should give you a hint as to what msg you know *is*)

    Cat’s doing fine, managed to trick us into four meals yesterday though.

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    Mike E says:

    I just made a batch of hummus using Alton Brown’s recipe that substitutes peanut butter(!) for tahini. Scrumptious.

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    kdaug says:

    “And lo, the useless were useless still”

    Sometimes I try to replace “Halpern” with “Ignasio”, just for fun. Maybe with a poncho/sombrero or something, thirsty in a desert.

    But nope, he still ain’t interesting. Probably just me.

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    NotMax says:

    @Anne Laurie

    Believe this pic may be of the same company’s product.

    They also apparently market these:

    Lemon Broccoli cookies
    Zucchini Gingerbread Carrot cookies
    Banana Squash squares

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    NotMax says:

    @Major Major Major Major

    Monosodium glutamate is just a beard.

    What MSG really stands for is Makes Stuff Good.


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    @Major Major Major Major:

    It’s confirmed to be a migraine trigger for some people, and if you’ve never had a migraine before, it can freak you right the hell out, especially if you get some of the weirder symptoms like auras.

    Still, it was pretty silly for people to decide that a food additive that had been around for at least a century was OMG POISON! because some people got migraines from it.

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    @Mnemosyne (tablet): I’ve had migraines. I get them from chicken. Doesn’t mean I go around having every American-style restaurant take it off the menu in a fifteen-year full fledged panic and convince my friends it will kill them all.

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    Tommy says:

    @Mike E: There is a happy thing in this comment. Have to try that.

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    @Major Major Major Major:

    You clearly do t have any friends who have gotten really, really into things like the Paleo diet. Don’t you know that grains are POISON and they’re going to KILL US ALL!?!?

    MSG is just another in the long series of food freakouts by Americans, but it scared people because it had a scienc-y name in the 1970s.

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    Tommy says:

    @Mike E: I always felt a hit team was coming for me. Telling me I am doing it wrong>.

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    NotMax says:


    Just for sh*ts and grins, look at the ingredients list and scan a few of the reviews at the link given above in #27.

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym says:

    I’m desperately behind schedule on revising the novel. Working a dozen overtime shifts over the last six weeks was a large part of the problem, but I think they largely have their personnel problems behind them. I need to revise at least three chapters a day for the next week+ to meet deadline. I got my quota done for today.

    When I got out of bed this afternoon, I found an email in my inbox asking if I could work Wednesday night training someone in. I’m mad at myself for saying yes.

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    @Mnemosyne (tablet): fair point. They just aren’t assholes about it I guess. Oh, can I have the steak salad, and you can just give the cheese to M^4 here for his hamburger…

    Now, acquaintances who do that shit, yeah. Got them. Lotta antivax overlap. Can’t consiser them friends I guess.

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    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: hang in there, as the kitten says. You got this!

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    NotMax says:

    Upcoming at 6:30 a.m. Eastern, TCM is re-airing the 20th anniversary tribute to host Robert Osborne. Somewhere in it is a very short, very funny bit with him pretending to be soused while introducing a film of much less than stellar quality.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Back in the land of the living is good. Does that mean you have had your surgery? I must have missed that.

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    Fred says:

    Interesting that comments in this thread about Trump petered out at 19. Even srv, who is usually dogged, if as was noted silly gave up. Could this be a trend pointing to general boredom with the blathering clown? After the geek bites off the forty-first chicken head it stops being shocking. It seems shocking is all The Donald has got.

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    Thoughtful Today says:






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    magurakurin says:


    Flavor 2: Orange/Chocolate/Beet. Really, truly. All I could immediately muse was “An open invitation to having your house egged.”

    my thoughts exactly. Hallowen, or at least trick or treating for candy, is a form of blackmail initiated by children in the United States after the war. By the time I arrived on the scene in the late 60’s the candy companies had made a well established and acceptable practice. This hadn’t always been the case. But even in my era, cheaping out on Halloween candy definitely set you up for a bad night on Mischief Night the following year.

    And seriously, people who give healthy shit to children on Halloween totally frickin miss the point of the whole damn thing. Candy, mutherfucker, do you have it!!!???? Apples, that ain’t no candy I ever heard of, say “healthy treat” one more time, I dare you, I double dare you mutherfucker, say “healthy treat” one. more. time!

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    BillinGlendaleCA says:


    I double dare you mutherfucker, say “healthy treat” one. more. time!

    Wow, tough hood, must have kept the local dentists happy.

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    SRW1 says:



    You wanna out-clown the uber clown, am I right? Gravitas is the last thing the audience looks for in a clown.

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    Thoughtful Today says:

    “Define the danger. Preferably in political cliches, sports analogies and beltway dork speak. ”


    Prescient 9/12.

    9th down. 8th inning.

    Synergistic political music…..

    Just tune in…



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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Thoughtful Today:
    Dear God, that’s awful.

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    NotMax says:

    @Amir Khalid

    Awful is not nearly a strong enough adjective. Deplorably odious and aurally noisome. Makes one long for Al Gore demonstrating the Macarena.

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    Thoughtful Today says:


    You’ve crossed a line!


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    Thoughtful Today says:

    Amir, what did Gootube flow into?


    … What did Youtube queue into?

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    Thoughtful Today says:

    For me it queue’s into decent American folk music.

    .my mmv (You’re countries mileage* may vary …

    * should I calculate for metric?

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    Thoughtful Today says:


    What do you see?

    What do you hear?

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    Another Holocene Human says:


    Only recently since Trump has got poll numbers for weeks on end has she called ME to rant. She is livid.

    If you have lost the 78 white lady you fucked up.

    Trump is an old school Republican’s worst nightmare. The non-crooked ones.

    The crooked ones hate him too because he stole their shtick and is running a cruder version of it. Actually, he’s killing their shtick.

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    raven says:

    Joe has the nuts to rail AGAINST elites!

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    Another Holocene Human says:

    @NotMax: I would defs eat orange+chocolate+beet, but not in cookie form. Sounds terribly sketchy.

    This stuff is nothing new, remember those “frookies” from the 90s that were supposedly to be healthy cookies (not)?

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    Another Holocene Human says:

    @Mnemosyne (tablet): Beet sugar turned sour for me when the beet sugar folks broke their contract with their workers in the midst of profits.

    And the “something” is that a doctor did a very popular lecture posted to YouTube where he through innuendo and errors argued that HFCS is of the devil and causes metabolic disorder. The only actual point he had was that HFCS stabilized sweetener prices and made sweets cheaper.

    The people that can’t stomach HFCS can’t even eat a strawberry either. I pity them. (I know because I went through a bout of it but fortunately got better.)

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    Another Holocene Human says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Hmmm, you may be right about MSG, but 1/3 of the population is sensitive to sodium. I am one of them. It’s not a totally bad thing, in that I can adjust low blood pressure by ingesting table salt. However, if I ate one of those mid century East Asian meals with the Aji-no-Moto liberally applied I could get a raging headache and be wondering why.

    Not from the tasty glutamate. From the sodium part.

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    kc says:


    Trump really owned it in Dallas tonight. He has a gravitas


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    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet says:

    @srv: That’s a very annoying video (at least with the sound off, trying to read the subtitles). I only made it ~ 50% through.


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    TerryC says:

    @Mnemosyne (tablet): @Another Holocene Human: You would die, then after a single one of my meals :) I got acclimated to lots of salt as a kid and still do it – luckily, it does not affect my bp.

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    ellie says:

    @NotMax: My mom began knitting a sweater for her first born son back in 1955. She finished it for his grandson a couple of years ago.

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