Monday Night [Football] Open Thread

Anyone watching the football? Atlanta-Philly just got interesting in the fourth quarter. I don’t really care who wins, but it’s a pretty good game. The Iggles just clawed their way back from a large early deficit to take a one-point lead.

Minnesota-San Fran is up next as the second part of a double-header, and I don’t care about either of those teams either. But I generally root against San Fran because an obnoxious former coworker is a huge San Fran fan, and it makes me happy to think of her feeling wretched because of a loss. 

Jon “Chucky” Gruden is calling the game. I’m not sure why he’s so widely hated as an announcer by viewers, but I’m sure y’all will tell me. I think he does an okay job. But I wish he wasn’t an announcer but was instead still coaching the Bucs. Tampa’s franchise has been a toxic waste dump ever since Chucky got kicked to the curb. 

Open thread!

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    redshirt says:

    San Fran is a disaster and the good man who was made their head coach will suffer for it and be the cause of it, to some point, since he shouldn’t be a head coach.

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    raven says:

    He ain’t bad, fuck all these dopes.

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    Elizabelle says:

    Go Mickey Mouse and Snow White!

    (Watching the Walt Disney documentary on PBS American Experience.)

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    Baud says:

    Saints are in a “rebuilding” year. I don’t think the NFL is going to be as interesting this year for me.

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    redshirt says:

    @raven: He may not be, but he doesn’t have the chops to handle the media. And he’s been gifted a disaster of a team and situation.

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    PhoenixRising says:

    By referring to the Niners and their home city as ‘San Fran’, you’ve done enough already. Your contempt has been communicated. Well played.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Baud: Well, the return of James Jones was a nice thing for me.

    /non sequitur

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    Betty Cracker says:

    Can’t believe the Iggles missed that kick. Jayzus.

    @redshirt: I think he meant Chucky Gruden…

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    redshirt says:

    @PhoenixRising: What’s the actual San city?

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    S. cerevisiae says:

    SKOL VIKINGS! Our defense will be awesome and Teddy with AD = points. You heard it here first.

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    benw says:

    After years of the Chargers getting the late game, this year the Niners are the west coast team hosting, to which I say: FUCK YOU, GOODELL!!!

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    PaulW says:

    Bucs fan here. I am with Betty that the Bucs ownership overreacted to firing Gruden in 2008 (the collapse of the team was due to bad injuries on defense). Every coaching move since then has been a worse hire than before. While we needed to get better on drafting – we’ve only had one decent draft since 2001 – we’ve had GMs with weird biases – Dominik refused to draft offensive line, ever, which killed the long-term development of the entire offense – and just bad luck with First Rounders.

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    S. cerevisiae says:

    Oh and ha ha Iggles!

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    redshirt says:

    Watching Eli run the 2 minute drill on Sunday made me appreciate being a Pats fan.

    How’d that guy beat us again???

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    Heliopause says:

    Jon “Chucky” Gruden is calling the game. I’m not sure why he’s so widely hated as an announcer by viewers, but I’m sure y’all will tell me.

    Chucky’s by no means the worst, but he suffers the same affliction as many color announcers; he safely delivers conventional wisdom in a stentorian voice, hence the network suits love him.

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    Richard Mayhew says:

    A bit different watching an almost meaningless game now that I am playing in a fantasy league at work and I needed Demarco Murray to gain a net eleven yards or score once to beat my boss.

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    Richard Mayhew says:

    @redshirt: sacrificed multiple virgins and sold sever hundred souls in 2008, 2012, gronk had big booboo

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    Betty Cracker says:

    Annnnd there’s the ballgame.

    @PaulW: Did you happen to catch that epic clusterfuck yesterday? Sweet babby jeebus, what a disgrace. I’ve been a Bucs fan since I was a schoolgirl in pigtails, but I can’t say I was sorry to see Jame-ass fail so fucking hard.

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    Peale says:

    @Richard Mayhew: yep. Was is too much to ask to give Demarco the ball in 4th quarter?

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    lamh36 says:

    Oh, is it football season?


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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Richard Mayhew: Where’d they find the virgins in Jersey?

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    Peale says:

    Iggllllez!!!!! Why do you torment me?

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Richard Mayhew: I can’t do fantasy football. I played once and it ruined the whole season for me. It interferes with the natural flow of my rooting interests somehow.

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    Peale says:

    Why are the 9ers dressed like Altanta?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Betty Cracker: I can’t do it either. Same reason.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Peale: I was just wondering that myself. What the figgety fuck? Isn’t it bad enough that the Bucs are using Klingon font for their numbers?

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    redshirt says:

    I am so Fantasied up it’s a little dizzying. I think I can do it, but it’s hard to know what to root for.

    The Giants/Cowboys game was crushing (ROMO!!!!). Tonight’s Eagles game ended in just such a fashion as to be tragic. It’s all very fascinating.

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    benw says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    I can’t do fantasy football

    Same here. I like my rooting interests to sort of grow organically over the season as I find players and teams I like. I can’t even really commit to a March Madness bracket for the same reason.

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    MobiusKlein says:

    Screw the San Fran bs

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    Peale says:

    So I need 50 yards and a score from Boldin to win. I don’t wanna hear about clever 3 tight end sets.

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    Origuy says:

    I’ve been obsessively following the Valley Fire in Lake County, CA since Sunday morning. As it stands, the fire has burned 62,000 acres and is only 10% contained. Boggs Mountain State Forest, which was one of the best areas for orienteering and mountain biking in the state, is completely burned. The village of Cobb, where my friends and I got supplies when we were there, is gone. Much of the town of Middletown further south has been destroyed. Hundreds have lost their homes and businesses. Thousands have been evacuated. If you want to see some heartwrenching, but also heartwarming, pictures and stories, go to Twitter and enter #ValleyFire.

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    Gex says:

    Wanted to vomit when they told us AP believes hitting the field today will be redemption.

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    Jordan Rules says:

    @Betty Cracker: Yes, yes and yes!!!

    Fantasy just doesn’t work for me.

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    Gex says:

    Also what’s with the shitty aerial cameras that show only a tiny triangle of the field?

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    Peale says:

    @efgoldman: or a field goal?

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    redshirt says:

    @efgoldman: Yes, indeed, but let’s also hope the San Fran kicker somehow scores 12 points!

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    gene108 says:

    Gruden is loathed because he tries to do a poor man’s John Madden impersonation.

    He gave Julio Jones the knick name “Hammerin'” Julio Jones because argyle gargle (auto correct made argle bargle better) he’s a hammerrin’ sports ball star like “Hammerin'” Hank Aaron. And both of them sports ball starred in Atlanta.

    Hank Aaron was a bit before my time. I did do a book report about him in the second grade. I can say based on my detailed research Julio Jones has not put up with half the shit Aaron had to deal with in his professional career and has not come close to achieving, in football, what Aaron did in baseball.

    If Gruden just stuck to explaining what is going on in the game he would be very good. He gets side tracked into trying to be “cute” and/or “colorful”.

    Madden pulled it off because that style was new and entertaining in the early 1980’s. Now it is old and tired.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Gex: What a POS.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Gex: I have a rooting interest in karma in that case.

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    lamh36 says:

    Mary Sue is a great blog to follow if you are interested in both sci-fi, entertainment and what not from a female oriented point of view.

    Matt Damon and Project Greenlight Think Only Pompous White Guys Deserve Chances in Hollywood

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    ThresherK (GPad) says:

    Never tried streaming NFL audio, and it isn’t as easy as one might think. Found WHB, Kansas City, in Tune In after the SF and Mn stations, and Westwood One, all declined.

    Wondering if my old crystal set would be easier.

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    Gex says:

    @Betty Cracker: I have friends who quit the Vikings and became Packers fans over AP. The Vikings are the most embarrassing franchise in the league. It goes all the way back to the guy running the wrong way, to being the only team to win 15 games in a season and not win a Super Bowl, to Love Boat, to kickers and runners who deal drugs, to letting Shaun Alexander score FIVE touchdowns in one half, to having the most arrests in the league, and the part I hate the most, bilking us for THREE stadiums.

    I quit football a few years ago, so I’ve forgotten half my list of Vikings embarrassments too. I’m only watching tonight because I’m hanging with some friends. But it is so nice not to care about this effing team anymore.

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    gene108 says:


    Iggllllez!!!!! Why do you torment me?

    I have found, living in the greater Philly area, the more dismissive the local sports talk stations are of an opponent the more likely the Philly team will lose and they were all saying this would be a cake walk in Atlanta.

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    redshirt says:

    @ThresherK (GPad): I only have radio and it stinks. The crappy radio I own does not get stations I can get in my truck just outside my house. So either it’s my house (probable to a degree) or the crappy stereo (probable to a degree). Regardless, I’ve fashioned an elaborate antennae out of aluminum foil and positioned the radio in front of the picture window…

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    redshirt says:


    And Boomer Berman makes two.

    You don’t laugh anymore when he says “Thhhhhheeeee Raaaaaiderzzzzz…..”?

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    gene108 says:


    Gruden tries too hard to bring “pizazz” to his broadcasts. I could put up with his voice, if he talked like he normally would.

    Same goes with Chris Berman. Nobody wants “pizazz” in their color commentary anymore.

    Like the popularity of wine coolers, it was a phenomenon best left in the 80’s.

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    lamh36 says:

    Ya know. I’d also like to see a good female late night host…

    I’m glad we’ve got POC hosting, but really only Arsenio was a true late night show on broadcast tv. I’d love to see a broadcast net have a host of color…or female host at some point…meh…

    IDK, imagine an Amy Poehler or Tina Fey or Aisha Tyler as a host of a net entertainment interview show!

    Just Some Dudes Hanging Out, Drinking to Male Privilege

    Vanity Fair just accidentally illustrated comedy and TV’s “boys’ club” problem better than any article ever could.

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    benw says:

    @Gex: @Betty Cracker: In the world of American sports narratives, he’ll only be redeemed if he wins or plays spectacularly. If he can do that, he’s fine, but struggle and they’ll never forgive him.

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    Jerzy Russian says:

    @ThresherK (GPad): I tried for some time yesterday to see if I could stream the Broncos-Ravens game. I am willing to pay, and even then, I could not see a way to do that (either video or audio). There is apparently a Direct TV package where you don’t actually need Direct TV, but that was not available in my area. I would love to see what others do regarding streaming video and/or audio.

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    S. cerevisiae says:

    @Gex: Go root for the worthless Cowboys then.

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    redshirt says:

    @efgoldman: It seems as if it’s the norm nowadays for sports teams to successfully blackmail their cities into paying substantial amounts of money towards new facilities.

    Kraft almost did it when he first bought the team – the Hartford Patriots?

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    Chet says:

    Make love to football.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @lamh36: Saw an article about that photo earlier somewhere — Jezebel maybe? Anyhoo, it alleged that Amy Schumer was offered Stewart’s gig but turned it down. I hadn’t heard that before. Wonder if it’s true?

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    ThresherK (GPad) says:

    @redshirt: Well, auto radios are pretty good, but as “terrestrial radio” becomes less and less important, that may change.

    For home or portable use, Good AM radios aren’t hardly made anymore*, and getting one with a place to attach an antenna is also rare.

    *Going counter to everything else about tech hardware and pricing.

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    OldDave says:


    The crappy radio I own does not get stations I can get in my truck just outside my house.

    AM or FM? If AM, try turning the radio 90 degrees (if the long axis is oriented E-W, try N-S). This because the ferrite bar antenna inside most of them is directional.

    FM? You’ll have to look to see if it has an external antenna connection. Try a 30″ length of wire oriented vertically. Beyond that, I’m out of ideas.

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    Scout211 says:


    Butte fire here in Calaveras County is now 71,000 acres and 35% contained. All the big air tankers are now working the Valley fire. There is some optimism.

    The cooler weather and rain tonight should help both fires.

    It is hard to imagine being evacuated with only seconds. That Valley fire is just a monster.

    Go Niners!

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    redshirt says:

    @OldDave: So like a long wire of aluminum foil?

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    NotMax says:


    Station doesn’t livestream?

    (Would pay extra for a radio which doesn’t pick up sports broadcasts. But that’s a personal preference, not a recommendation.)

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Thanks! It’s good to know that Schumer got an offer, at least.

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    redshirt says:

    @NotMax: The internet here is terrible too.

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    NotMax says:


    Uncoated wire hangers work fairly well, also too.

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    ThresherK (GPad) says:

    @Jerzy Russian: For audio I tried the Tune In app, and while Westwood One told me they were not streaming now, I got two affiliates streaming tonight’s game. KPMI and WHB.

    Not sure how that network may treat Sunday games different from Monday nite. lists fewer stations for the former than the latter, but you could do worse.

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    MobiusKlein says:

    Nobody looking great on the feets ball tonight.

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    Cacti says:


    to being the only team to win 15 games in a season and not win a Super Bowl

    Well, they do have company now in that category, after a certain New England-based franchise ran the table in the regular season, then stepped on their dicks in the Super Bowl. :-)

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    Football? Watching the Dodgers, Vin Scully at the mic. Football? Really?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Cacti: Sadly, I must admit that Green Bay had a 15 win season without a championship.

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    lamh36 says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: @Betty Cracker:

    Ya know, I know alot of folk like Schumer, but I’m not really a fan. But yeah, at least she would have different than the current boys club.

    And imagine if Samantha Bee had been named TDS host!

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    lamh36 says:

    Miss America Organization Finally Apologizes for Slut-Shaming Vanessa Williams
    It only took over 30 years, but who’s counting?

    …This entire incident, however, is also a reminder that women’s nude images being distributed without their consent is not just a Digital Age problem. For example, when hackers released private nude images of Jennifer Lawrence last year, many people said that Lawrence should’ve “known better.” What did she expect, after all? It’s the Internet! If she didn’t want them to be distributed, she shouldn’t have taken them in the first place! But clearly, women don’t need the Internet for this to happen.

    In addition, the answer is never “she shouldn’t have taken them in the first place.” The answer is, “What is wrong with our society that we ever think that distributing nude photos of a woman without her knowledge and consent is OK?” As Jennifer Lawrence pointed out after her photos were leaked, this isn’t a “scandal,” it was a sex crime. I’m just glad that the Miss America organization finally came to their senses and apologized for penalizing her for having the audacity to have her privacy stolen…

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    redshirt says:

    I’m scared of copper thieves. They’re desperate for copper.

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    different-church-lady says:

    Still seething about Headset-gazi. Glitches happen and the whole country screams “MORE CHEATING!!!!” Then the league says, “No, it wasn’t the Patriots fault” and there’s crickets.

    Apparently the Pats’ headsets went down during their second Super Bowl against the Giants in 2012. Did anyone anyone ever hear about it? No. Because the Pats just took their lumps without complaining. Instead of bitching during the press conference, Darth Hoodie just added headset failure into his game planning, and now has his coaches practice working without headsets.

    I hope Brady is so pissed off this year that he wins Super Bowl 50 twice.

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    MobiusKlein says:

    And again 9rs are loo’rs

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    ThresherK (GPad) says:

    @NotMax: Plenty of pixels have been spent on how some stations for some leagues are trying to work out the rights for live streaming on radio station’s sites. Every sport seems to do it their own way. The NFL are the most top-down I have seen yet.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @lamh36: seems to me succeeding Stewart is a “be careful what you wish for” situation. I think that was one of the reasons Jessica Willaims told everybody to back the fuck off and mind their own business. She pretty much quit tweeting after that.

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    NotMax says:


    That had potential to be, shall we say, entertaining during thunderstorms. :)

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    sacrablue says:

    @Scout211: I’ve been looking at the tankers and other firefighting aircraft all day. They fly directly over my house to land at McClellan Airpark to refuel and refill their retardant. It was sad that they weren’t able to do much yesterday because of the smoky inversion layer.

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    Jerzy Russian says:

    @ThresherK (GPad): Thanks, there is a local WestWoodOne affiliate here, so I can listen to those games. I am still a bit amazed on how hard it is to actually pay for a feed. I can understand them cracking down on the “free” feeds, but not making it easy for someone who wants to pay seems a bit silly.

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    OldDave says:

    @redshirt: Like others have already mentioned, copper wire would be better. I said 30″ because that’s a quarter wavelength at FM frequencies. Another issue if you’re trying for AM stations – lighting dimmers, which create a lot of electrical noise when the lights are partially dimmed.

    If the radio has two screws for an external FM antenna it may want a folded dipole antenna. Those used to be easy to make, but 300 ohm flat-lead TV cable isn’t nearly as common as it used to be. If you’re attaching a single wire try one screw at a time – one may work better than the other.

    That’s about all the advice I’m good for in one 24 hour period. Good luck!

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    Jerzy Russian says:

    @redshirt: Thieves recently stole a large water valve for a condo complex near my brother, who lives in a fairly nice neighborhood. It must have taken a lot of effort as the pipes were cleanly cut. From the looks of similar valves on other buildings, that thing must be at least 100 pounds of copper and brass.

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    Tommy says:

    Did not see the game nor hear it.

    I grew up and my standard is Jack Buck. I know there are other amazing folks with the mic at their hands, I fear a dying bread, but Jack fucking buck!

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    redshirt says:

    @Jerzy Russian: We’re already on the edge of End Times, as the resource scavengers have long been here. Copper thieves are no doubt druggies desperate for their next fix, but they presage the time when we will all be desperate for metals.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    Can someone explain the ‘Niners new uniform?

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    redshirt says:

    @efgoldman: Have you ever met real Maine rednecks? They’re hobbit like.

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    MobiusKlein says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Uh, blood on Raider’s uni?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @efgoldman: Um, ’60s era Packers?

    @Jerzy Russian: I once was involved in a criminal case where people were stealing veterans’ bronze plaques from cemeteries and trying to sell them for scrap. A scrap metal dealer dropped dime.

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    Comrade Mary says:

    There’s a brilliant Guardian live blog going on right now for the Vikings-49ers game, written by an “uninitiated Aussie” because one of their own is playing. It’s sheer delight.

    Righto, nil-all still in the Big One, 49ers vs Vikings. And there’s another timeout. Vikings with the ball. They make four yards. They have to get another six to make a first down, it’s the laws of the game. But Niners defence belts the running man. And then several of them head off the field. Funny game, National Football League. A sack! The Niners D-people celebrate like they’ve invented penicillin! The Vikings are deep and will punt, meaning…

    Here’s the Hayne Plane! His first touch in the NFL. And… he drops it? Oh my goodness me, he drops it! His first touch is a fumble! He’s grassed it. Oh my.

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    Goblue72 says:

    @efgoldman: The rest of Boston is cheering watching the Townies be pushed into the Harbor by the yuppie invasion.

    Couldn’t happen to a more deserving neighborhood. I’m looking forward to coming back someday to piss on Bulger’s grave.

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    lamh36 says:

    Iraq vet: Fox News ‘War on Cops’ narrative has infiltrated my police academy

    An Iraq War veteran who joined the police force said that the police academy where he studied in “a northern red state” is in full-on panic mode over the supposed “War on Cops,” in spite of the fact that U.S. rates of violence against police are on the decline.

    Writing for the Daily Beast under the pseudonym Clayton Jenkins, the ex-soldier said that his instructors frequently parroted the Fox News narrative that police officers are under siege, “dying left and right” at the hands of Black Lives Matter activists and criminal thugs…

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    Goblue72 says:

    @different-church-lady: I need a cigarette after reading that.

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    Tommy says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: No I can not. But then I feel I am getting old here. The team I used to hold season tickets for I don’t even like to type out their name anymore. That football team that plays in DC. Well Maryland at this point but I guess that is another thing ……

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    redshirt says:

    @Goblue72: Southie is pretty prime real estate, and I’m sure some gangsters already made their millions.

    Back when I worked there, it was a literal wasteland.

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    MobiusKlein says:

    flag, flag, flag, flag.


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    Betty Cracker says:

    @lamh36: Samantha Bee would have been a great choice for TDS too. And yeah, it’s about time the Miss America organization apologized to Vanessa Williams. Kinda ridiculous for an organization that makes loads of cash objectifying women to be in the business of slut-shaming anyway, but like you said, Williams was a victim.

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    different-church-lady says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    On the sidelines before the game, some Dallas players believed that Lombardi had purposely removed power to the heating coils.

    Plus Kramer moved early.

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    different-church-lady says:

    @efgoldman: And horseshit had not yet become the coin of the realm. (For culmination, see Trump, Donald. Or for that matter, Goodell, Roger.)

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @different-church-lady: BS and BS squared. Everyone played in the same conditions. Show me the replay.

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    different-church-lady says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Oh, wait, you’re saying that sometimes when a team gets accused of cheating, it’s bullshit? Well knock me over with a feather!

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Tommy: My condolences on your loss.

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    lamh36 says:

    @Betty Cracker: Truly…if I had to name 5 Ms America winners, Vanessa would be #1 and I’d honestly have to google to even figure out who any of the other Ms Americas were.

    ‘Nessa has always been and will always be the first Black Miss America to us..good to see the current org apologize, but also great that she not only became more famous than I’d say any other Ms America winner, but she is still successful and made a name for herself outside of the crown

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    Tommy says:

    @Betty Cracker: I am getting more and more happy I have no connection to mainstream media. I had no idea any of this happened to Vanessa Williams. Good for her! Heaven forbid she was nude won’t for a pic. So unheard of these days.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    I’m looking at Atlanta and the suburban county that’s building a replacement for almost-new Turner field.

    Don’t even get me started.

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    Tommy says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Just a game, but thanks :).

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    ThresherK (GPad) says:

    @Jerzy Russian: The odd thing is, I don’t have a radio in this room, so trying Ye Eye Eye is the trick unless I want to go upstairs.

    Look into forward to fall when the AMers start booming in after sundown.

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    Tommy says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: You should kick them out. Said as a dude where the team in my area left, came back, and now is saying they will leave again. Leave!

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Tommy: Um, the condolences were for your relative in CA.

    @lamh36: I have seen the “scandalous” photos and I can say that they were art shots not porn shots. Williams was fucked over, but good for her for having a real career after all of that.

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    redshirt says:

    Betty Cracker is the best Front Pager on BJ.

    Retweet if you agree!

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    Gex says:

    @Cacti: ah yes. I quit football before that so I lost track. Well, at least the Vikes are ground breaking!

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    Gex says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: so they’re the only team to win 15 and fail to win the SB without Randy Moss. I was starting to think maybe it was him.

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    redshirt says:

    I think the Vikings are cursed and shall never win a Super Bowl.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

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    Tommy says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: I know just trying not to think about it.

    I would guess in your interaction with me here you found I am kind of dense. Runs in the family.

    Why my parents are not on a plane as we talk is beyond me I guess.

    What gets me is Mary Sue was in their house two weeks ago for a week. I got these giddy emails from my parents.They always noted her husband wasn’t in the best health. Get on a gosh darn plane and fly west.

    What gets me more is my parents are a member of a high-end time share and they drive/travel two weeks a month throughout the midwest. Worse case try something to the west! CA isn’t going to bite you gosh darn it!

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    trollhattan says:

    If you want to absolutely shit a brick, load this map and zoom into the Valley Fire are, where directly northwest are the footprints of the Rocky and Jerusalem from barely a month ago. Before this one is out that will be 200k acres burned in a single part of the state.

    Friends have a vacation home in Arnold, right in the path of the Butte Fire. Arnold and Murphys are both under evacuation advisories tonight. They think they’re going to squeak through for the time being, weather is helping for now.

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    Gex says:

    @redshirt: We are a state where those who want to watch winning teams should watch women play: Gopher’s hockey and the Lynx.

    Sure the Twins won, but their last Series win was almost a quarter century ago.

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    redshirt says:


    At least they’ve gone (years ago). Could be worse – they could be the Browns or Lions.

    Yes. But think of the suffering of Buffalo. It is great and large and has literally sunk an entire region.

    So sad, foot ball.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @efgoldman: The Browns won NFL championships.

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    redshirt says:

    @Gex: Minnesota sports has a long tradition of

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    ThresherK (GPad) says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:”It was was a different America, when this old ballfield was built. Names like Clinton and Bush were spoken of for the White House. But times have changed, and Atlanta must say goodbye to Turner Field after 19 long years. The hot and cold running water, plush executive suites, and Jumbotrons are hopelessly quaint in the year 2015, no matter how attached some fans are to this old place.”

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    sublime33 says:

    Gruden lost a lot of credibility in Chicago last year when the coaching staff bent Gruden’s ear, told him that Jay Cutler was undermining their most excellent coaching and Gruden repeated it verbatim on Monday Night Football. Not that Jay Cutler doesn’t deserve criticism, but Baltimore Raven fans are going to find out real soon how bad their new offensive coordinator really is.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Oh hellz no. You couldn’t pay me to live in Cobb County.

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    Origuy says:

    @trollhattan: Yes, I’ve seen that. There aren’t a lot of people living in the area of the Rocky Fire. There are (or were) a lot of little communities on the west and south side of Clear Lake.

    I hadn’t heard about the Arnold and Murphys evacuations. Those are pretty large communities, and a long way from where that fire started. Scary.

    ETA. At least we’re getting cool weather now. There’s even been some rain. The wind doesn’t help, though.

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    lamh36 says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: yes. I’ve seen the pics as well. And they def are “artsy”I was born in ’76, so when all it went down, I was too young to even know what the big deal was.

    Funny enough, nowadays in the “age of the sex tape” that becomes big selling porn…those photos were nothing

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @lamh36: Oddly, that particular issue of Penthouse is infamous. It had the Vanessa Williams photos and the underage Traci Lords centerfold.

    I was in college at the time and no one gave a shit except for the prurient angle. She was, and is, lovely.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @sublime33: I didn’t hear about that and don’t know anything about the OC. But Cutler was a big crybaby when he played college ball and probably still is.

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    Mike in NC says:

    @efgoldman: Been away too long to recognize any of it. Grew up in Roxbury and later Mattapan/Hyde Park. Worked my first job in Southie and then Roslindale. Had lots of family in the area but they’re gone now. Aunts and uncles in Jamaica Plain. Back in the day I’d buy 69 cent model airplanes at the Woolworth’s there. A different world.

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    Mike in NC says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Was on a blind date outside a restaurant in Providence, RI about summer of 1988 when a model showed up for a fashion shoot. Didn’t know who she was at the time but soon found out it was Vanessa Williams.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @efgoldman: Cutler has every physical attribute to be a brilliant QB. But he panics. I like that.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @efgoldman: Sure. Any player for any team would deserve to be called a whiny ass crybaby if he went on TV to piss and moan about how the officials had robbed him like Cutler. He’s a big baby, or at least used to be. Maybe he’s matured since then.

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    Tommy says:

    @Mike in NC: Hard for me to think how anybody would see her and not say,”shit that is a super hot lady.” She is just beautiful!

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    redshirt says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: He also smokes cigarettes. Google Jay Cutler smokes.

    He’s also a diabetic, more power to him, but I think it plays a part in his performance. Sudden lows….

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    Thoughtful Today says:

    Anyone watching the football?”

    Lucy has it.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Thoughtful Today: Answer my questions in the thread below, if you aren’t too scared.

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    Thoughtful Today says:

    You owe Cervantes for some of those beers.


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    Thoughtful Today says:

    He’s asking about’s Senate rankings.

    Cervantes found them here:

    NB: Different sorting orders produce different results.

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    Thoughtful Today says:





    ♫ <-:

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    Just One More Canuck says:

    @Betty Cracker: we need a like button for this

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    different-church-lady says:

    @Betty Cracker: Hey, at least you’ve finally moved on from ALL CHEATERS ALL THE TIME!

    See you in San Francisco — oh, wait, the Bucs won’t be there…

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @different-church-lady: What are you talking about? Like most people outside the 508, 617, etc., area codes, I assume the Patriots are cheating cheaters who cheat, but it’s hardly an obsession of mine or a topic I return to repeatedly.

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    kindness says:

    Niners dude. #BlackJerseysMatter?

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    different-church-lady says:

    @Betty Cracker: Probably should have said “it’s a refreshing change” in a general sense rather than “you’ve moved on…” in which I meant “you” in the plural.

    Either way I’m sick of it, and putting up with is done. Fuck all y’all.

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    steverinoCT says:

    @Jerzy Russian: SiriusXM. They have an Internet streaming product; don’t know if it’s stand-alone.

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    mclaren says:

    Your words sound strange to me, friend.
    What is this ‘football’ of which you speak?

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