Having reviewed the @colbertlateshow transcript, let me just say this: You really might want to tune in tonight to see @VP Biden.
— Ed O'Keefe (@edatpost) September 10, 2015
But I was looking forward to more Jindal sick burns delivered in person. pic.twitter.com/JjRHnZw2qi
— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) September 11, 2015
Probably not related, but O’Keefe is one of the high priests of the journamalistic Cult of the Savvy…
ETA: Most of the Biden segment was about his son Beau, and the ongoing pain of coping with loss. Last words were Colbert’s (he mentioned losing his own father when he was ten): “My mother used to say ‘What’s the use of being Irish, if you don’t know the world is going to break your heart?'”
benw
Time for a beer and some music! I’m trying a Greenport Harbor Brewing Co. Harbor Ale, which I’ve never heard of but it showed up in the local beer section of my supermarket and it’s pretty good. Any music suggestions? My default will probably be Matthew Sweet’s “Girlfriend” if I don’t hear anything.
EDIT: is a “Jindal sick burn” aimed to or from Jindal? Either would be acceptable, obvs.
Punchy
Huck wont be there unless it’s moved to Rowan County. Maybe McAfee can take his place, unless its moved to Belize.
Gin & Tonic
Just finished making about a quart of a seriously smoky, spicy tomato jam. First experiment, as I’m tired of hot pepper jelly after three batches, and I had a lot of tomatoes that were on the verge of not being usable.
Renie
Resigning myself to having a 2nd root canal tomorrow. Ugh. At least I’m taking the whole day off from work.
vheidi
@Gin & Tonic: recipe, please? I made apple butter due to same problem with apples,
Redshift
Rachel read from the transcript after the earlier embargo was lifted. I would agree, probably well worth watching.
rk
Bobby Jindal said Trump has a “squirrel on his head” and jeb thinks he’s been most insulted by Trump. This is all very middle school. I think they’re going to start throwing spit balls at each other soon, or maybe Trump will pull Carly’s pigtails and make her cry.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Hadn’t heard this
I do miss Hackman. I remember reading a couple years ago that Nicholson was having trouble remembering his lines
Gin & Tonic
@vheidi: When cooking, I really tend to improvise. The basis is Mark Bittman’s tomato jam.
I started with about three times the tomatoes, so 4-5 pounds. Halve them and roast in a 400+ oven (convection if you can) until the skins char. Take them out, cool slightly, remove skins and chop coarsely in a food processor. Put in heavy pan with 2.5-3 cups of sugar, 3-4 Tbs of fresh lime juice, 2-3 Tbs cider vinegar. Here I deviate completely from Bittman, as I don’t like the ginger-clove profile. I added 3 fresh Thai hot peppers, chopped fine (with seeds), 1 Tbs ground cumin, 2 tsp Spanish pimenton, 1.5-2 tsp alder-smoked sea salt. Cook at a bit more than a simmer, stirring often, for 2-ish hours, until reduced by about half-volume. Increase/decrease the pimenton and smoked salt depending on your tolerance for that flavor profile. Mine is very smoky.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic:
Sounds a bit McMegany to me.
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: I bought some on a whim when I was in Vancouver and have been looking for a way to use it.
Gin & Tonic
@efgoldman: It’s very dark gray, actually. A manly shade. Don Draper would wear a suit that color.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: Classy, even?
Mike in NC
TV Note: “Under the Dome” series finale tonight sucked to high heaven. It was shot at Screen Gems Studio in Wilmington. NC once had a thriving television and movie industry (known as Hollywood East) like many states, but then the Republican teabaggers in Raleigh took over and decided that creating jobs and raising revenue were government tyranny and had to go, and the pricks slashed the incentive budget by about 90%. All those jobs moved to places like Texas and Georgia.
scav
@Gin & Tonic: Had a really good Italian style Tomato Jam in Ames, that tended a bit more toward Bittman’s original but definitely had fennel in it and probably more lemon. Was completely ambiguous as to what the flavor was: we originally had votes from strawberries to figs, but there was a bite underneath. My mother’s been experimenting ever since (she definitely cut back on the sugar).
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: Classy in an understated way; a way that The Donald would not understand.
Geeno
Since it’s an open thread: I’m listening to ancient Genesis albums this week. Up to “Trick of the Tail” tonight. I miss prog-rock.
lahke
Help! Came home tonight and little cat had big cat cornered under the bed, and there was big cat fur everywhere. I finally had to shut the little cat into her own room because her aggressive behavior is escalating. Is this sudden change normal in a 10 year old cat, or should I start getting paranoid about the fact that she had a rabies shot last week? Can a cat get rabies from the vaccinations? Her certificate doesn’t say if it’s live virus.
Eric
@Geeno: go to you tube. Look up Big Wreck live 2015 Suhr factory concert. Enjoy
Omnes Omnibus
@benw: @Geeno: It’s Otis Redding’s birthday. Just saying.
Morzer
@lahke:
You should rent little cat out to Cole as Thurston’s new mother.
SarahT
Anne Laurie, that Biden interview was amazing, and sooooo different from anything you’d usually find on late night TV. Really special.
PJ
I have to say that Biden’s conversation with Colbert came across as genuine and affecting in a way that most politicians rarely do. This may be simply due to the subject matter, but I agree with Colbert that that recognition of suffering and sense of public service would be an asset in the current race.
Omnes Omnibus
@PJ: And yet Biden effectively said he wasn’t running.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@Renie:
I’ve been very lucky for my several root canals to have found a really great endodontist who knows exactly where to inject the novocaine so I don’t feel a thing during the procedure. It’s the next couple of days afterwards that hurt. If anyone in the LA area needs an endodontist, I can wholeheartedly recommend Jeff Berlin, DDS, in Beverly Hills. He even calls you that night to make sure you’re feeling okay.
If part of the problem is that your jaw hurts from holding it open for so long, ask your dentist or endodontist if they can use a bite blocker on you. It lets you relax your jaw but keeps it open enough for them to do their work.
(My endodontist works with dental phobics like myself a lot, so he actually referred to the bite blocker as a “tooth pillow” when he offered it to me, which cracked me up later.)
Omnes Omnibus
@Morzer: The new cat would just join the conspiracy against Cole.
trollhattan
@Morzer:
You do understand “renting a cat” involves handing over a cat plus an envelope containing a significant sum of cash?
Anne Laurie
@lahke:
Doubt it’s rabies, but it’s certainly possible that she’s having a bad systemic reaction to the shot & the pain is making her unusually aggressive. I’d definitely call your vet in the morning, make sure he doesn’t want to see her again. Especially if she’s ever had an issue with her kidneys.
PJ
@Omnes Omnibus: That wasn’t the impression I got, which was that he still hasn’t made up his mind. I think his emotional state is a large consideration, but another one probably is that Hilary has sucked up huge amounts of cash from the big donors. Biden has been making a lot of public appearances (like Colbert) and his office allows him public attention that Sanders and Clinton have to campaign to get. I think if he wants to run, he should do it – all this talk of tarnishing one’s legacy is just a lot of hoo-hah from people who have no legacy to tarnish. (As a side note, the American obsession with being a “winner” ignores the benefits that strong public debate and discourse can have on a democracy. I don’t expect Bernie Sanders to win the nomination, but I’m glad that he’s running because he’s raising issues that it would be easy for Clinton to ignore.)
trollhattan
@Omnes Omnibus:
Coincidentally I’m sittin’ ona dogam day at this very moment.
Omnes Omnibus
@trollhattan: Now that you mention it, “renting a cat” sounds like a euphemism for something illicit.
dww44
@Morzer: LOL. I hope Cole sees your comment.
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
John G Cole arrested for running a cat-rental scheme…. I could see it happening all too easily.
Omnes Omnibus
@PJ: Hasn’t made up his mind equals not running at the point.
PJ
Here’s some more of Biden’s non-campaigning;
lahke
@Anne Laurie: Thanks, but we may not survive the night. She’s rocking that door pretty hard.
SiubhanDuinne
I heard the first few minutes (just audio) of the midnight rebroadcast of Rachel’s show. Just hearing her read the transcript was moving enough. I’ll hope to find a streaming pod whatchacallit video thing of the actual Colbert-Biden interview tomorrow.
Fourteen years ago today (meaning September 10) I was forced to be in the same room as Dick Cheney. That was awful. But 14 years ago tonight (still meaning September 10) I met George Clooney and his aunt Rosemary, which took most of the Cheney stink away. Unfortunately, those nice Clooney memories were rendered mostly irrelevant the next morning.
Omnes Omnibus
@Morzer: It sounds very W. Va.
Amir Khalid
@PJ:
Biden ran twice before, and didn’t do all that well. That too is something he needs to take into account.
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Sounds like something Governor Mark Sanford would have done if only he hadn’t been busy hiking the Appalachian Trail.
askew
Man, that interview made me ugly cry. So, heartbreaking. Joe was having a hard time keeping it together.
From twitter, all the pundits are saying Joe’s in for sure after this interview. I just don’t know. He looks broken. I don’t think he has another run in him.
Colbert showed why he got the job with that interview. He, like Letterman, can turn off the jokes and do a thoughtful interview. Makes the contrast with Fallon even more remarkable.
Omnes Omnibus
@askew:
I agree. I think he effectively announced tonight that he wasn’t running.
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
Kay (not the front-pager)
@Morzer: Hey! I was drinking coconut water! My keyboard will never be the same.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@lahke:
If you have to, put one of the cats into their carrier for their own protection. (Preferably the one who’s acting out, but you don’t want to get bitten, so you can put the non-crazy one in the carrier instead.) I would definitely being the little one back to the vet, because a sudden behavioral change is something to worry about in cats.
Omnes Omnibus
@Morzer:
David Koch
Biden is treading on Twitter
People are really moved.
Omnes Omnibus
@David Koch: And?
Omnes Omnibus
@David Koch: Add this:
Now what?
Steeplejack
My verdict on the new Colbert show is still out—there’s something that feels slightly off about it, which could just be me getting used to it—but this was classic Colbert tonight: “Frank Luntz—Republican pollster and child who wished to be a grown-up on a cursed carnival ride . . .”
ETA: I had never seen Frank Luntz, to my knowledge. Whoa.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: Eek!
cckids
Apropos of nothing else in the thread, but I’m re-watching Ken Burns’ Civil War on PBS, and I’m struck by how much I’m enjoying Sherman marching through Georgia. Get ’em, Bill!!
“Atlanta is ours, and fairly won”
Steeplejack
@benw:
Music? The Kills’ “Future Starts Slow,” which was featured at the end of the Person of Interest episode “Relevance” tonight. Awesome fit.
The song.
End of the episode (possible spoilers).
I’ve been rewatching Person of Interest and Elementary on WGN’s current binge-a-thon. Pleasantly surprised at how well both series hold up. Just ran through the Irene Adler arc on Elementary the last few nights.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: For some snobbish reason, I cannot bring myself to watch Elementary.. Probably my loss.
The Pale Scot
Oscar Wilde
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
Possibly you have a bit of a Lucy Liu problem? A lot of people do, it seems. But, anyway, tastes differ, so no blame attaches.
The series started off a little shaky but got better quickly. In seeing the episodes again now, I’m a little surprised at how good.
The premise (and treatment thereof) is certainly no stranger than that for the universally beloved BBC Sherlock. Plus the Irene Adler arc featured Natalie Dormer of The Tudors and Game of Thrones.
Jordan Rules
@Omnes Omnibus: “People are really moved.” If this is all he meant by the comment, that’s enough.
Whew. Cutting onions over here.
BillinGlendaleCA
@SiubhanDuinne: I was flying back from Hawaii with Miss America sitting across the aisle from me.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: Wait! Ms. Dormer is involved? I’ll look in.
@Jordan Rules: Read the next comment down. Okay, people (including me) are moved by the VP’s interview. Now what?
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
Sorry, she was in only a handful of episodes, and they ran them all this week. But she definitely made an impact, both as Irene Adler and the identity behind Irene Adler.
NotMax
Home again, home again, jiggedy-jig.
Thank FSM.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
Holmes meets Irene Adler. (Heats up at 2:20 if you get bored.)
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: I’ll look.
Jordan Rules
@Omnes Omnibus:Now what?
Nothing. That’s it. That was my point. People were moved and commented on it.
mclaren
By the way, isn’t it time for the annual American 9/11 hysteria?
I’m waiting for the chanting wailing crowds murmuring “nine eleven…nine eleven…nine eleven” obsessively over and over, in a mindless mantra of blind fear and abject panic. Where are the Fox News shills prostrating themselves before videos of the Twin Towers while they whimper “Never again”?
Where are the candlelight vigils by the self-appointed guardians of the American population who don’t give a shit about all the black men being choked to death or shot in the back by cops, who couldn’t care less about all the no-knock SWAT teams kicking in the doors of innocent families and shooting their dogs and kids and husbands in the head, yet who swoon and fall into a faint at the thought of 9/11?
Where are the sacramental hosannahs offered on every TV channel to our ignorant incompetent U.S. military with its rapists and gang members and misfits? Where are the craven explications of fear and mindless panic and cries from the no-neck American population for the corrupt socipoaths in law enforcement to protect them from the imaginary wahabis hiding under every bed and lurking behing every bush? Where are the shouts of “anything they want, give it to them!” from our gullible sheeplike populace to the wardheeling bribe-taking politicians sleazy enough to exploit 9/11 for more military procurement grifting and domestic police payoffs misnamed “national security”?
I’m really missing the national hysteria here.
Why aren’t you people falling on your knees en masse and slithering forward begging to hand over your sacred liberties to a bunch of thieves with badges, bribe takers in high office, and incompetent careerist military thugs who courts-martial a private for losing his rifle but give generals like Petreus a pass when he loses a war?
It’s September 11 again. Get moving, people. Prove once again you’re the lowest form of human being on the planet — you did it last year, it’s time again, now get to it, lazybones. Fox News isn’t re-running those videos of the Twin Towers to get you to play fucking yahtzee — they’re re-running those videos to turn you into sniveling crawling cowards eager to sell your constitutional birthright for a mess of fear-induced pottage. Now get moving! Crawl like the animals you are!
Steeplejack
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I really felt bad when I finally realized that Hackman had “quietly retired.” I’m a little more ambivalent about Nicholson, because my memory of his late-stage career is a tendency toward phone-it-in “Nicholson being Nicholson” type performances. Still a great career, though.
Steeplejack
@mclaren:
Hope you had enough tissues to clean up after your jackfest.
Morzer
@Steeplejack:
I think mclaren’s had one game of fucking yahtzee too many.
J R in WV
@mclaren:
Asshole!
That’s in the morning, hours yet from right now.
Dumass. Fuck you for being a sociopath, which finally is proven by what you have said tonight.
I was working, and my boss came into my office and said “NPR just said a plane just flew into the World Trade Center.”
I said “What do you mean, like a Cessna lost or something?”
He said, “No, like a 747 or something like that… A big airliner of some sort.”
So we went to a guy’s cube who had a 8 or 9 inch B&W TV, and there was the first Tower, burning like a hand of glory candle. The cube was full, 9×12 with 8 guys. We were quiet, for us… and then another airliner came across the image, and hit the other tower.
I saw footage of people crowding into shops after the first tower fell, just before that the news anchor told us that many of the falling objects were people diving away from the flames.
Not long after that I went home… it was strange, no traffic, even for the rural road I traveled on.
Mrs J was at work too, at a news bureau. With 4 or 5 TV screens 24/7. She got the full dose all day long. I did too, on a broadcast network station.
mclaren Fuck you!
Everyone else, good night, I’m gonna take another swing at sleep tonite.
mclaren
Crocodile tears from Biden the sociopathic authoritarian.
How about all the pain from all the men and women who’ve had their lives destroyed by the no-knock raids Biden’s legislation started? How about all the loss from the countless innocent people who have had their homes and their cars, their bank account and their possessions legally stolen by the asset forfeiture legislation Biden wrote?
Joe Biden needs to be charged with conspiracy to commit grand larcency for writing the asset forfeiture legislation, and aiding and abetting assault, battery and murder for the insane drug lasws Biden rammed through.
Joe Biden needs to be tried, convicted and sent to prison, where his victims can form a rape conga line on him that circles around the prison ten times.
A Humble Lurker
@mclaren:
Considering they were slave owning and many of them were against the kind of democracy that’s common place today, that sounds like a compliment. Judge a man by the quality of his enemies, and all that.
mclaren
You ignorant incompetent bully-worshiping pithecanthrepoids need to have the truth shoved down your throats so far it spew out your backsides, so open wide and say “Ahhhh”:
Source: TomDispatch.com website, “Mantra for 9/11.”
Read it and weep for your own stupidity and gullibility, you slope-browed dupes.
Morzer
@mclaren:
Honky, please: pithecanthropoids.
Duane
@PJ: @Omnes Omnibus:
GHayduke (formerly lojasmo)
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I can’t remember who, but an actor recently reported working with jack and being told “nice to meet you” and they had done three or four other films together.
Sherparick
@lahke: No, they can’t. How long have the cats been living together? Have there been any other changes in your environment and the cats environment the last month? There may be little status dynamics going on in the “pride.” Talk to your Vet and see if you can afford a consult from a cat behaviorist
Neldob
I believe Biden is to the right of HRC. The Nation magazine has an article, but haven’t seen it yet.
Somehow all this constant insistence that she’s not nice, not someone you want to have a beer with, not genuine, not affected by suffering is some weird take on her being a woman and fomented mainly by the right wing media.
A person can’t be in politics their whole life and be always sweet and nice. Not Biden, not Obama. Maybe W was ‘nice’ to his friends, but that turned out not to be a plus.
Ruckus
@J R in WV:
I was on a plane flying from east to west. The pilot came on and told us about the first plane. Then a few minutes later he said he couldn’t believe that a second plane hit and that we would be landing ASAP. The pilot was amazing. After we landed in Atlanta and were parked on the taxi way waiting for a gate he walked through the cabin. When we finally got off the plane we saw and heard that a lot of pilots didn’t say anything to their passengers and people were getting off planes and being rushed out of the terminal by police and military, and had no idea why. I wrote a letter a few days later to Delta telling them how professional he had been and while he was just doing his job, he did it very well that day.