Open Thread: Feel the Burn, Trump

Okay, Tim F. beat me to the topic, but Tammy Duckworth’s diss was too good not to front-page.

Also entertaining: #justlikemilitary service, the hashtag collaboration. “I am, at this very moment, watching Robert Redford raise the flag in The Castle. Also did a Men’s Health workout…”

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    Baud says:

    I’ve read a blog post about tweets about military service. Baud! 2016.

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    gf120581 says:

    Good one from Duckworth. It’ll be nice to see her in the Senate come 2017. (I had no doubt of her future victory once she announced, simply from being a Democrat in Illinois in a presidential year, but since Mark Kirk developed a very bad case of foot in mouth disease, it’s pretty much become set in stone.)

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    Baud says:


    I would have preferred something more vulgar, but that’s probably too much too ask.

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    since Mark Kirk developed a very bad case of foot in mouth disease

    Duckworth’s secret weapon is that she’s completely protected against putting her foot in her mouth./badtaste

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    Poopyman says:

    Interesting fact: When read on a tiny screen, this post’s title is read as “Feel the bum, Trump”

    And I didn’t even raise an eyebrow.

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    Bitter Scribe says:

    So I guess Trump is now going to call her a fat pig loser.

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    But Trump isn’t a bum; he’s huuugely classy.

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    I binge-watched “Band of Brothers” and had a crush on Damien Lewis.

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    Baud says:


    Who’s running your SuperPac?

    Thanks for stepping up, Goldman.

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    benw says:

    Watching Williams vs Williams. Two of my favorite athletes. Damn you US Open for putting them on the same side of the draw!

    Trump’s a chump who’s gonna get dumped on his rump when his numbers slump!

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @efgoldman: I can probably find a stick.

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    Baud says:


    One sign is all I’ll need.

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    Morzer says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Trump – not a bum but an asshole!

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    raven says:

    @Mustang Bobby: He was good in The Forsyte Saga and he plays Sherman in “To Appomattox”

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    mai naem mobile says:

    Uh oh, Trumps going to go after Duckworth – ‘you’re a loozer for getting your legs blown off, you gooky chink! Also you’re a guurll! I’d make big money off a deal with you,cuz I do deals with chinamen all the time.’

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    JPL says:

    @benw: It’s definitely a good match, but why did they have to show Trump in the audience.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    Can we ask the Donald for his transcripts from the military academy? How about the transcripts/records from the schools he got asked to leave? The Google search implies that he did well in school but I remember reading that he was asked to leave several school before he was placed at the New York Military Academy.

    I want to see the transcripts.

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    Morzer says:

    #justlikemilitary service

    I’ve played Civilization. I can handle the Chinese!

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    raven says:

    Rachel is showing this dude blocking Cruz from getting to the christer on the podium. He looks like a ChiCom Officer!

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    rikyrah says:

    that’s SHAAADDDEEE from Duckworth

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    ThresherK says:

    @PurpleGirl: Trump was one of those brats who gets sent to military school to have some sense drilled into him, in the time-honored tradition.

    It obviously didn’t take. Now there’s a bad Yelp review for the NY Military Academy I want to read.

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    Morzer says:


    Mike Grifterbee done excludified Cruz from a seat on the Kim Davis short bus! Oh the horror!

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    raven says:

    This motherfucker is nuts!

    Donald Trump thinks the United States should accept some refugees from Syria due to the “unbelievable humanitarian problem.”

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    cokane says:

    At first I thought Dem politicians should probably lay off Trump and let him win the primary. But then I remembered that conservative is ~liberal so ya, every Dem pol and prominent liberal media figure should probably complain and especially act as offended as possible at every Trump utterance. That would pretty much make the nomination a lock.

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    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @Baud: According to Scott Walker, I’m prepared to be Commander in Chief since I’m also an Eagle Scout.

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    raven says:

    Well damn!

    “On behalf of our Duke community, we want to thank you for serving our country over these last two terms,” Krzyzewski told the crowd as he urged them to give the President a standing ovation. “You’ve been an amazing leader for our country. And it’s not just you, but your family and the sacrifices. So thank you very much for your service.”

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    GregB says:

    By the way, aren’t we witnessing large swathes of what most of the media calls the Republican deep bench going all Coconut Grove?

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    Belafon says:

    Remember her talk with the guy who claimed veterans disability for being injured in military school:

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    Morzer says:


    I guess it’s going to have to be woggles at dawn to settle this dispute.

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    raven says:

    One day before joining nine other contenders for the Republican nomination on the debate stage, front-runner Donald Trump will hold court on a decommissioned battleship to discuss his national security strategy.

    A speech by Trump will be the main attraction for “Make America’s Military Great Again,” a Sept. 15 event aboard the USS Iowa in Los Angeles that’s sponsored by Veterans for a Strong America, a “nonpartisan action organization” that endorsed Trump in July.

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    Belafon says:

    @raven: I wonder if Veterans for a Strong America is full of military school people as well.

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    raven says:

    @Belafon: They have a twitter.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @BillinGlendaleCA: A whole bunch of my middle school teachers thought I was a disruptive smartass, so I’ve pretty much taken on ISIS.

    (I’d pretty much grown out of it by the time I started high school)

    ETA: I opened up the machine to see if anyone has yet ID”d the Cheney-lover who lost a banner tug-o-war to Code Pink. I hope the internet elves are at work on that

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    Cacti says:

    In case anyone needed another reason to hate Tom Brady…

    He’s a Trump supporter.

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    benw says:


    I’ve played Civilization. I can handle the Chinese!

    And the Babylonians, Vikings, Romans…


    that’s SHAAADDDEEE from Duckworth

    Mama Said Knock You Out

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    JPL says:

    @raven: According to CNN, Rubio said the same thing.

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    rikyrah says:

    Silicon Valley, Seeking Diversity, Focuses on Blacks
    SEPT. 3, 2015

    OAKLAND, Calif. — More than a decade before diversity became a hot issue in Silicon Valley, Jason Young came home on winter break from Harvard to discover that his family was being evicted.

    Having grown up in a single-parent home with an absent father who was frequently incarcerated, Mr. Young, 33, can identify with other young black men he now calls “hidden geniuses” — the promising male teenagers who grow up in challenging circumstances mere miles away, but light-years apart, from Silicon Valley’s tech money machine.

    That experience led Mr. Young to found the Hidden Genius Project two years ago. The program immerses high school men of color in coding, web and app design, team building and other skills intended to give them a leg up in the tech economy. Mr. Young says he focused on young men because similar groups existed for young women, and because young males face particular challenges in school and their communities.

    As part of an initiative to put more women into top positions at Salesforce, a cloud software company, Cindy Robbins was promoted to head of human resources. She and a colleague raised concerns with the chief executive that women’s pay might not be on par with that of their male counterparts. A companywide review of salaries confirmed their suspicions.

    Google’s leaders have said that they are unhappy about the firm’s poor gender diversity, and about the severe underrepresentation of blacks and Hispanics among its work force.Bits Blog:
    His project is one of a multitude of grass-roots efforts that have sprung up recently to address one of Silicon Valley’s most acute diversity problems: the scarcity of African-Americans in the tech industry.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @raven: woah. That could be his undoing. He’ll have to compensate with more Mexican bashing.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    The Last Castle is just about the best movie about how to undertake an insurgency. It should be used as an instructional manual.

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    Morzer says:


    And the Babylonians, Vikings, Romans…

    C’mon, man. Anyone can handle the Vikings. Hell, even the Steelers can manage that much!

    Mind you, stopping the Babylonians from getting nuclear weapons ain’t easy.

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    Joel says:

    @Cacti: find me ten white, male, professional football players who are not wingnuts and we can talk.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @Cacti: he was a BUSH supporter. He’s been dead to me for over a decade.

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    raven says:

    @Bobby Thomson: Fuck Michigan.

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    benw says:

    @JPL: Going into the 3rd set 6-2 1-6. It would be insane if Venus actually beat Serena.

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    Morzer says:


    Er.. Chris Kluwe… um… did I mention Chris Kluwe…then there’s that Kluwe guy.. so that’s three.

    And Aaron Rodgers “hates both parties”. The things that boy will do to avoid throwing an interception!

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    east is east says:

    Would someone close to her tell Hillary to please stop wearing the suit. She looks ridiculous.

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    Jeffro says:

    From Percysowner’s post on the “F-you, Texas” thread (about a Huckabee staffer physically blocking Ted Cruz from jumping into the Davis-released-from-jail circus): can you imagine how close we came to Ted Cruz revealing his true self to the nation? Trying to sissy-slap his way into stunt pics of Kathy Davis’ release?

    It’s as close as we’re going to get to a Greg Stillson* moment for someone who most certainly fits that bill

    (*Bringing today’s events full circle, h/t to National Medal of the Arts recipient Stephen King for this crazy-a$$ character.)

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    JPL says:

    @benw: I’m streaming it on USOpen.. It’s behind their live scores. Venus has played great so far and it’s unfortunate, that one has to lose. I’d love Serena to get the Slam though.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @east is east: she should be wearing an apron, amirite?

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    east is east says:

    @Bobby Thomson: no, you’re aright. wow.

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    gelfling545 says:

    @raven: Well, if that doesn’t end him, nothing will. Letting foreigners into the country? What next?

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    raven says:

    @Jeffro: He’s a punk, he ain’t throwin down with nobody.

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    raven says:

    @gelfling545: Maybe he’ll join up.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Ever get the sense that inside Lindsey Graham is a decent person who wants to come out?

    ‏@ ByronYork
    On Fox, Lindsey Graham is asked to react to Mike Huckabee’s offer to go to jail instead of Kim Davis: ‘Well, we’ll miss Mike.’

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    east is east says:

    @Bobby Thomson: really. I think she looks stupid in that costume. And you go to say I’m implying she should be wearing an apron. Good job. Go to Daily kos with that bullshit.

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    benw says:

    @JPL: Venus is definitely not taking it easy on her little sister!

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    seaboogie says:

    @east is east: Naw – I think she’d look a bit silly just in just her under-britches. Seems like them other fellers been wearing themselves some suits, and yet you ain’t calling them out on that.

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    gelfling545 says:

    @east is east: Perhaps you could explain what it is you object to? I hadn’t noticed that she dresses any differently than most women in business or the professions.

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    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @Morzer: Always proud to note that Kluwe is a fellow Bruin.

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    JPL says:

    @benw: Serena appears to be the one having problems focusing and forgetting about who the opponent is.

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    Jeffro says:

    @raven: I mean, for real: just 5 seconds’ worth of video of Cruz trying to slap his way into a photo op could save the Republic. Until the next Cruz, that is.

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    east is east says:

    @seaboogie: fine. let her wear the pantsuit and look stupid. I get so sick of this shit. Implying I’m sexist. So fucking tiresome.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @efgoldman: I didn’t say “smart”

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    east is east says:

    @gelfling545: really?

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    Belafon says:

    Maybe Hillary needs to ask her husband what to wear.


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    seaboogie says:

    @east is east: I did not know that you are a fashion consultant to presidential candidates. Do pray tell, what exactly should she be wearing? As a woman, I’ve always kind of been down with whatever she sports.

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    benw says:

    @JPL: 5-3 Serena can serve to win it!

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    JPL says:

    The match isn’t over but this might be Serena’s most difficult match to the slam. If she wins this game, that is.

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    Morzer says:


    She looks fine to me, but I am too busy performing my military service via the Total War franchise to offer further commentary.

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    east is east says:

    @seaboogie: good for you. there’s no accounting for taste.

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    Belafon says:

    @east is east: There’s also no accounting for when taste is necessary and when it’s a distraction.

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    Cacti says:

    @east is east:

    fine. let her wear the pantsuit and look stupid. I get so sick of this shit. Implying I’m sexist. So fucking tiresome.


    It’s not like criticizing women for their fashion choices carries a ton of sexist baggage.

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    Mandalay says:


    Seems like them other fellers been wearing themselves some suits, and yet you ain’t calling them out on that.

    You have a point. I have just made the mistake of reading some blogs (not here) on Kim Davis, and there are plenty of people who are just attacking her for her appearance. That wouldn’t happen if a man had been in her place.

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    Felonius Monk says:

    Trump’s New Slogan: I was never in the military, but I did spend last night in a TRUMP HOTEL.

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    east is east says:

    @Cacti: you all really should head over to daily kos to get your daily dose of imagined outrage. I’m 50, and I’ve been laughing at men’s neckties since I was 15.

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    Morzer says:


    FWIW, the pantsuit seems like a perfectly sensible choice and it’s one a lot of women would probably be able to associate with, especially from the corporate world, where it seems like a default choice.

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    Morzer says:

    @east is east:

    I’ve been laughing at men’s neckties since I was 15.

    Thank you for your service.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Morzer: I like neckties. So fuck all you haters.

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    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q) says:

    @Southern Beale: Isn’t Nashville rather purplish? “Godless” don’t fly much in Tennessee, from what I’ve seen. It’s likely to work, she says from Ohio.

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    beltane says:

    @Mandalay: In one of the threads down below there was plenty of discussion surrounding her husband’s attire. Some people of both sexes just look ridiculous. Hillary Clinton is not one of those people.

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    Morzer says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I never get between a person and their preferred means of achieving auto-erotic asphyxiation.

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    beltane says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Neckties are not all created equal. I have seen some hideous ones in my day.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Morzer: Who mentioned silk stockings?


    Neckties are not all created equal. I have seen some hideous ones in my day.


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    geg6 says:


    Plus, what, exactly, is she supposed to wear? Jeans and a t-shirt???

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I suppose it would suck to be a lawyer who doesn’t like ties.

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    seaboogie says:

    @east is east: I did not know that you are a fashion consultant to presidential candidates. Do pray tell, what exactly should she be wearing? As a woman, I’ve always kind of been down with whatever she sports. @east is east: I remember playing paper dolls when I was young, little tabs to fold over the cardboard lady-figure….what do you have in mind?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @A Ghost To Most: What I don’t like are socks. So there is that.

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    srv says:

    You people think all those Republicans and Democrats who never served are going to go emo over this.

    Tell me, how many tours in Vietnam did Sylvester Stallone do?

    Derp. These people still worship Cheney.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @east is east:

    Would someone close to her tell Hillary to please stop wearing the suit. She looks ridiculous

    It’s her uniform. She looks like Hillary in it — there’s even a campaign tshirt.

    She tries switching her “look” now, every Media Village Idiot will reprise their favorite “Al Gore in earth tones, eeewwww!!!” comedy routines.

    Within the restrictions of her pantsuit-uniform, HRC’s actually been looking pretty good. And given the myriad sexist landmines lurking for every female politician, that’s exactly what she should be doing: not attracting attention, in either direction, for her looks.

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    Mandalay says:


    Hillary Clinton is not one of those people.

    Right. I’m no fan of Hillary Clinton, and I’m no expert on fashion, but she looks fine to me.

    But it’s also worth pointing out that she finally said today what she could and should have explicitly said months ago about her private email server:

    That was a mistake. I’m sorry about that. I take responsibility

    And we’re discussing her clothes?

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    seaboogie says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Funny – I love feet in socks – man, woman and child. I often give socks as gifts for those who are feeling low – good ones are like little hugs for your feet, and feel great!

    I used to sometimes wear an awesome necktie that I purchased at Bloomingdales during my first visit to New York (80’s), and I was pretty cute in it. When I met my husband, I was the only one in our couple who owned a tie.

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    east is east says:


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    redshirt says:

    And so begins Pantsuitgate 2016.

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    east is east says:

    Just saying it doesn’t look good on her. goodness gracious.

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    east is east says:

    @efgoldman: I’m working on it.

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    SFAW says:


    so I had to tape them on, and it hurts when you rip the tape off.

    Have tee shirts not made it to Vo Dilun yet? Or do you have to drive to (horrors!) Seekonk to buy them? I never pictured you as a lazy SOB, so it must be something else.

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    seaboogie says:

    @efgoldman: I think the tape-pain is supposed to be part of the fun – and a handy ex-foli-hair-iant.

    Dialed into Slate the last couple of days, and some BDSM thing featuring cats keeps cropping up, and going auto-play audibly, completely unbidden. Glad that I don’t work in an office around other people.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @seaboogie: The preppy look worked for me.

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    seaboogie says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Popped collars?

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    dexwood says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I hate wearing ties, never do, but I own some pretty nice ones, including my father’s favorite, a tie with a hand painted map of the Chesapeake Bay

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    SFAW says:

    And, for the second game in a row, the New York Mets come from behind to beat the hated Washington Nationals. Apparently, the only reason it was close was that Yoenis Cespdes still hasn’t figured out how to be an outfielder in the major leagues – turns a single into a “grand slam” inside the park four-bagger.

    Magic number is now something like 19.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @seaboogie: No.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Mandalay: People were making fun of her husband’s appearance, on this very blog.

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    SFAW says:


    Hey, you’ve been incoherent two nights in a row, but that’s not close to a record. Keep trying.

    Incoherent? Or inchoate?

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    seaboogie says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: When I wore the tie, it was a bit edgy – back in the day when women were emerging in the workforce and wearing suits with blouses with floppy ties. I went for an actually wonderful men’s tie – but I was working in the art biz, and could push the envelope.

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    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    We’re pretty blue, actually. Not even purple. It’s a weird strategy for someone who wants to be mayor, maybe not so weird if they’re using the race as a branding exercise for a different race.

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    A Ghost to Most says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    We have a tradition in our families, of wearing to the funeral (and keeping) the ties of of the nearly departed.

    Almost every tie I now own came from a dead relative.

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    Too soon to tell. Last polls showed them neck and neck.

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    seaboogie says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Okay – so I know what I am NOT getting you for Christmas – tie or ugly sweater it is!

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @A Ghost to Most: the ties of of the nearly departed.

    So you steal their neckties as they lay dying? Seems pretty inconsiderate to me.

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    Morzer says:


    some BDSM thing featuring cats

    I knew the Cole tapes were going to surface sooner or later.

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    dexwood says:


    You force me to admit a fondness for my Three Stooges tie.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @seaboogie: Have you considered scotch or cognac?

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    A Ghost to Most says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Ha! But that would only be one tie. All the other ties in their closet are open, and

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    seaboogie says:

    @seaboogie: Oh shucks, that reminded me of a funny family story. So my little sister- who was notorious for not being able to keep a secret – had my father overseeing her bed-time prayers while I was present because lil’ sis and I shared a room. And she said this while on her young and tender knees, elbows on the bed with hands folded in prayer:

    …”and God, please don’t let me tell Dad I got him socks for Christmas”.

    Same little sis is now ably shepherding my father through his recent widower-hood.

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    A Ghost to Most says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Ha! But that would only be one tie. All the other ties in their closet are open, and there are several people (pallbearers plus)


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    east is east says:

    @seaboogie: a nice blouse is always attractive.

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    seaboogie says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Popped collars?@Omnes Omnibus: You seem kind of picky, so are we talking single malt, peaty or not-so-much, and how old, and VS vs VSOP….are you sure you don’t just want some cozy socks?

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    dexwood says:

    @A Ghost to Most:

    A nice tradition. A family elder loved to embroider her own handkerchiefs. She had dozens upon her death. As each female member of the family entered the chapel for her memorial service they were handed one of her hankies to keep. They were put to good use and my wife treasures hers.

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    seaboogie says:

    @east is east: You sound like my mother. Not necessarily a good thing.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:


    Popped collars?


    so are we talking single malt, peaty or not-so-much, and how old, and VS vs VSOP

    Famous Grouse is fine. And, if you prefer, I also like Calvados.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @A Ghost to Most: Like the waistcoats in Four Weddings and a Funeral.

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    seaboogie says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Re: Calvados…do you know of the tradition of “Le Trou Normand”? Middle course in a large meal. First and last time I experienced it was in Quebec, at the home of my friend’s father – many, many years ago.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @seaboogie: Yes, I do.

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    Ruckus says:

    @A Ghost to Most:
    I have two Jerry Garcia ties and he’s gone, does that count? And no he didn’t leave them nor give them to me, I actually bought them for the very few occasions I had to wear a suit, which I haven’t done in about 11 yrs. Still have it and it fits, strangely enough.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Mustang Bobby: I clicked your link to #justlikemilitaryservice.. Those were fun!

    P.S. I share your crush on Damien Lewis, and I’m still not over the fact that they took LIFE off the air. Bastards.
    (Just like military service?)

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    dexwood says:


    Hmm, I have two Jerry Garcia ties, too. Paid a buck apiece for them at an estate sale. I’ll never wear them, but I did love the colors and patterns. And, my most recently purchased suit was ten years ago. Wore it, sans tie, to a wedding two weeks ago. Catholic school education forever ruined my willingness to wear a tie.

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