Friday Evening Open Thread: Wingularity

Somewhere, Molly Ivins and Hunter Thompson are sharing a beer, shaking their heads about how easy the current crop of political humorists has it…

Jennifer Jacobs, in the Des Moines Register article:

“(Trump) left me with questions about his moral center and his foundational beliefs. … His comments reveal no foundation in Christ, which is a big deal,” evangelical conservative activist Sam Clovis said in an email just 35 days before he quit his job as Republican Rick Perry’s Iowa chairman and signed on with Trump’s campaign.

In the emails, shared by Perry backers Wednesday with The Des Moines Register, Clovis castigated Trump for his past liberal positions and admission that he has never asked for God’s forgiveness for any wrongdoing.

In an interview Wednesday, Clovis verified that he’d written the sharply worded criticisms of Trump, including one email in which he praises Perry for calling Trump a “cancer on conservatism.”…

Clovis defected from Perry’s team at a time when the former Texas governor has been struggling to cover his campaign aides’ salaries.

Iowa Republicans said Wednesday that Clovis’ move raises questions about how he reconciles endorsing Trump with his previous stances and statements, and whether he was motivated less by ideology and more by the promise of a big paycheck from a business mogul who has said he is willing to spend as much as a billion dollars to get elected…

Apart from wishing confusion upon our enemies (who are pretty confused already!), what’s on the agenda for the start of the weekend?

120 replies
  1. 1
    Calouste says:

    whether he was motivated less by ideology and more by the promise of a big paycheck

    Considering that for movement conservatism and Prosperity Gospel, money is their ideology, I don’t see a contradiction.

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    Scout211 says:

    What is happening with this blog and why does Is it Down Right Now say that this blog is “down for everyone” and “the server isn’t responding?”

    It has said that for the past three days.

  3. 3
    Benw says:

    Since a Trump/Palin campaign would want to get rid of PP, it would be Trum/Alin 2016!

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    OK, Jehovah. You have one last chance to prove you exist. Meteor on The Donald and Mooselini tonight.

    Get ‘er done.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Scout211: It’s been up for me the last three days, even through a Win 10 upgrade. Firefox on Win 7 then Win 10.

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    srv says:

    @Scout211: Crumbling infrastructure, John’s intertubes need flushing.

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    dedc79 says:

    A copy of the interview has already been leaked to youtube

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    Jeffro says:

    Can we get a GoFundMe going, to pay for a PI to follow these two horny-for-each-other klowns after the interview?

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    lgerard says:

    Over/under on new “‘words” invented during this interview?

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    Amir Khalid says:

    You has winned da Intertoobz!

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    Mike E says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: Yahway or the highway!

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    Baud says:

    Sarah Palin is boring.

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    Baud says:


    Congrats. And sympathies for your wife.

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    shell says:

    Sarah Palin Will Interview Donald Trump

    I dont think the usual use of the word ‘interview’ should be applied here. Try ‘tongue bath.’
    Awaiting the birth of my eldest nephew’s first baby. My sisters gonna be a grandmother!? Goddamn, I feel old.

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    Gimlet says:

    If Erika survives the mountains, it could regain intensity over the Straits of Florida and the Gulf of Mexico, the hurricane center added.

    Florida Governor Rick Scott declared a state of emergency on Friday, noting the storm could travel “up the spine of Florida” from Sunday into next week.

    Scott said the Tampa area on Florida’s Gulf Coast was a major flood concern due to saturation from rain this month.

    I’ve heard Republicans repeatedly say “America’s broke”. They need to cut the budget. Perhaps Gov. Scott could talk to the IMF about a loan if it’s necessary. They’ve done well by Greece I think.

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    Baud says:



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    sm*t cl*de says:

    evangelical conservative activist Sam Clovis

    OMFSM, that photograph. It cannot be natural to have a head so closely resembling a carbuncle. It is as if he blew his original head off with a shotgun, and the new one is partway through growing back.

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    MattF says:

    The snark generator here on my desk just exploded.

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    Heliopause says:

    Trump’s got good numbers again today on Pollster.

    If you knew nothing about the polls and asked yourself at the outset, out of the field of 17, “who are the three most dangerous, batshit insane candidates who would get us all killed if elected,” I think the answer would be pretty easy: Trump, Carson, and Cruz. Current Pollster average of these three together is 46%. If you asked yourself, “who are the three candidates that the party establishment would be most comfortable with” they would be, IMO, Bush, Walker, and Christie. Together they are polling 15.4%. OK, let’s help out the establishment by giving them Rubio, which gets them up to 22%. Now add Kasich, they’re up to 26.1%. Not looking good. Better throw in Fiorina; 31.9%. At least they’re past Trump now. Fine, make it Everybody Else: 44.3% TrumpCarsonCruz beats Everybody Else, and that’s giving Huckabee and Santorum to The Establishment. Funny.

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    Thoughtful Today says:

    I assume…

    Ted Cruz’s Dad’s revised prophecy is where Ted Cruz becomes Trump’s Vice President and then Cruz masterfully engineers a House Of Cards moment in March of 2017!

    12 years of Prophecy instead of only eight!

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @efgoldman: It has been a bit slow for me as well. Perhaps Steve needs to scare the bejezus out of the server hamsters or something.

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    Mike in NC says:

    This guy Sam Clovis is clearly someone who never missed a meal in his life, and he was happy to dump Perry for 30 pieces of Trump’s silver.

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    Mike in NC says:

    Last night I installed an update to the OS on my iPad and it seems to have helped with loading BJ.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Mike in NC: Sam Clovis doesn’t just look like he’s never missed a meal in his life. He looks like he’s had seconds and even thirds at most of them.

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    chromeagnomen says:

    @efgoldman: hey hey hey! i’m just catching up on postings, and i see yesterday that you are actually considering rooting for the mets for the rest of this year?!?!?! what the fuckity-fucking-fuck!!!

    /red sox fan since the early 50s

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    WereBear says:

    I like that Trump is ripping the veneer off the Republican pretense of sanity and statesmanship. Next Presidential cycle it will be that robot that vomits and a Triffid.

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    mdblanche says:

    @lgerard: All of them.

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    lgerard says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    @Mike in NC: Sam Clovis doesn’t just look like he’s never missed a meal in his life. He looks like he’s had seconds and even thirds at most of them.

    He’s corn fed

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    @Thoughtful Today: They’d have to wait until 2019. 22nd Amendment says you can only run twice if you serve less than two yrs. unelected.

    No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

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    cckids says:


    Awaiting the birth of my eldest nephew’s first baby. My sisters gonna be a grandmother!? Goddamn, I feel old.

    I found out via FB this year that a classmate from high school has SEVEN grandchildren.

    We are 52 years old. That is just not right.

    Plus, to completely blow my mind, this meanest-of-the-mean girls has become (at least on FB) an uber-Xtian. I’m glad she lives all the way across the country.

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    mai naem mobile says:

    Maybe the Trumpster thinls he can get Princess Sarah of the Northwest Snowbillies Megan Kelly’s Fozxy gig.

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    A guy says:

    I really don’t know if it’s good or bad but trump is kicking everybody’s ass. There no denying it

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    Archon says:

    @Mike in NC:

    Modern day conservatism is basically one gigantic grift operation.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @Scout211: BJ was loading slowly for me, but it’s back to normal for me. Not seeing any other problems with it. But then I’m still using Win XP… (Can’t afford to buy all new software for doing things, so I stay with what has been a stable platform for me.)

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    WereBear says:

    @cckids: meanest-of-the-mean girls has become (at least on FB) an uber-Xtian

    I’m sorry. I’m not catching the difference?

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    Felonius Monk says:

    @efgoldman: Congratulations. I hope Mrs. efgoldman enjoys her dinner, she has earned it. Have a great time. :)

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @efgoldman: Hope you and Mrs EFG have a great evening and best wishes for another 38 years.

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    Cacti says:

    POTUS has ordered an across the board 1% pay raise for federal civilian employees and 1.3% for military personnel for fiscal year 2016.


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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @efgoldman: Congratulations, and enjoy. Isn’t that the place that blew up a few years ago?

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Mike in NC: Sam Clovis obviously worships the same deity that Trump does.


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    gnomedad says:

    @sm*t cl*de:

    It is as if he blew his original head off with a shotgun, and the new one is partway through growing back.

    Do you know how much that stings?

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    Myiq2xu says:

    Source: FBI ‘A-team’ leading ‘serious’ Clinton server probe, focusing on defense info

    An FBI “A-team” is leading the “extremely serious” investigation into Hillary Clinton’s server and the focus includes a provision of the law pertaining to “gathering, transmitting or losing defense information,” an intelligence source told Fox News.

    The section of the Espionage Act is known as 18 US Code 793.

    A separate source, who also was not authorized to speak on the record, said the FBI will further determine whether Clinton should have known, based on the quality and detail of the material, that emails passing through her server contained classified information regardless of the markings. The campaign’s standard defense and that of Clinton is that she “never sent nor received any email that was marked classified” at the time.

    It is not clear how the FBI team’s findings will impact the probe itself. But the details offer a window into what investigators are looking for — as the Clinton campaign itself downplays the controversy.

    The FBI offered no comment.

    A leading national security attorney, who recently defended former CIA officer Jeffrey Sterling in a leak investigation, told Fox News that violating the Espionage Act provision in question is a felony and pointed to a particular sub-section.

    “Under [sub-section] F, the documents relate to the national defense, meaning very closely held information,” attorney Edward MacMahon Jr. explained. “Somebody in the government, with a clearance and need to know, then delivered the information to someone not entitled to receive it, or otherwise moved it from where it was supposed to be lawfully held.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Myiq2xu: Which is significant for what reason, pray tell? Did Reagan on either Bush ever consult with the State Department about their overseas or foreign policy related speeches?

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    Baud says:


    My first thought also.

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    PaulW says:

    Please don’t pray to include Sarah Palin as a Veep to any ticket. My drinking game list would pretty much boil down to “bottoms up.”


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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Myiq2xu: And?

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    PaulW says:


    congrats on the anniversary.

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    Baud says:

    I hope the servers are fixed soon so we can get the regulars back to dilute the paid trolls.

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    FWIW, my late brother’s girlfriend is already a grandmother of three and she’s two years younger than I am. And at 46, I ain’t that old.

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    jl says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: From the link, Bill Clinton declined the two invitations, which means there must be an even huger scandal than we first suspected, somehow, than if he had accepted

    HRC did a thing, whatever it was, and something must be fishy about it. It is big news and raises questions, no matter what.
    If that is not fair and objective coverage of important news, I just don’t know what is,

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    Amir Khalid says:

    He asked. State said no. No scandal. End of story.

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    Scout211 says:

    Hmmm. Okay, on my mac and the site works fine.

    On the iPad, the desktop version takes forever to load but the iPad (mobile) version works fine.

    Still, Is it Down Right Now? says is down and the servers are not responding.

    Very strange.

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    Myiq2xu says:

    This one is definitely on topic:


    WTH? Lamestream media asks GOP personal, spiritual “gotchas” that they’d NEVER ask Hillary, or they’d feed the question to her and/or liberal cohorts before they asked it on-air (we know how these things work, lapdog media… the public’s on to you), so good on Trump for screwing with the reporter. By the way, even with my reading scripture everyday I wouldn’t want to answer the guy’s question either… it’s none of his business; it IS personal; what the heck does it have to do with serving as commander-in-chief; and these reporters trying to trip up conservatives can go pound sand until they ask the same things of their favored liberal pals. I’ll cover this in my interview with Donald Trump and other candidates tonight on the One America News Network show “On Point.” The more the media does this, the more they empower America to reject them and their bias as voters run to the anti-status quo candidates daring to Go Rogue.…/dea.....s-not-…/

    – Sarah Palin

  57. 57
    John Revolta says:

    Oh fuck. Somebody showed the troll how to blockquote.

    Batten down the hatches!

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    Baud says:

    Anyone ever watch Tiny House Hunters on HGTV? Ho-lee cow, those houses are small.

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    Scout211 says:


    I hope they have a follow-up on those people after at least a year living in those tiny houses. I am not sure that living in those tiny houses will turn out they way they think it will.

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    Scout211 says:


    correction: mac is slow, too

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    @Thoughtful Today:

    12 years of Prophecy instead of only eight!

    Nope. If the VP succeeds the President less than two years into the term, he’s only eligible for reelection once. Check the 22nd Amendment. Also, too, the 12th Amendment requirement that the VP meet the same eligibility criteria as the President means you can’t wriggle around the 22nd by having somebody who’s termed out run as VP and then have the President resign.

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    Baud says:


    That would be fun to see. Lots of broken relationships perhaps.

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    JPL says:

    @Myiq2xu: At the start of every speech, Trump talks about the Bible. It’s fair game and has nothing to do with Hillary.

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    trollhattan says:

    Joke’s on you; my IQ is negative.

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    Baud says:


    He probably sees it as an autobiography.

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    No kidding. She got married at 18, her son got married at 18. I’m pretty sure she’s getting him a vastectomy for the holidays this year.

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    mdblanche says:

    @Roger Moore: Isn’t it cute you think niceties like that would still matter in Ted Cruz’s America.

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    BillinGlendaleCA says:


    my IQ is negative

    That’s what happens when you live too close to the State Capitol.

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    patrick II says:

    “So, tell me Don, what newspapers do you read?”

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    WereBear says:

    @Baud: Yep, they hate the holy heck out of the sin.

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    WereBear says:

    @Myiq2xu: dude, gotta put a warning on that. Thought my brain had melted.

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    cckids says:

    @WereBear: Ha ! Well, at least all the FB stuff she posts is about “letting God take over”, etc. She’s not at all political, very family-oriented from what I see. It’s just such a total reversal from her HS persona it is surprising.

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    Gimlet says:

    After defying multiple orders to issue marriage licenses to gays and lesbians, a Kentucky clerk is taking her case to the Supreme Court.

    Rowan County clerk Kim Davis on Friday filed an emergency request with the court to put a temporary hold on a lower-court ruling that effectively forces her to begin serving gay couples, saying that complying with the order would violate her religious beliefs.

    Davis’ request was addressed to Justice Elena Kagan, who oversees emergency petitions from Kentucky.

    The petition goes on: “If Davis’ religious objection cannot be accommodated when Kentucky marriage licenses are available in more than 130 marriage licensing locations … then elected officials have no real religious freedom when they take public office.”

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    Thoughtful Today says:


    A couple of ya’all are confusing our neo-Prophets Master Plan with Constitutional safeguards.

    Spoiler alert: They’re not the same thing.

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    Rich (In Name Only) in reno says:

    This is the Whore of Babylon interviewing the Beast as prophesized in the Book of Revelations, isn’t it?

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @efgoldman: Congratulations, and here’s for many more to come!

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    Kropadope says:


    This one is definitely on topic:

    Unfamiliar with the term “open thread,” smarty pants?

    Only someone who would quote Sarah Palin as an authority on anything would aggrandize their own intelligence so much. “She was a governor and almost VP. If she’s smart enough to do that, I must be a genius!!!”

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    rikyrah says:

    They are all about the GRIFT. This entire post was hilarious. Of all of them, Trump is the most honest. Think about that…..LOL

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    trollhattan says:

    A-yup. And also, too, that giantfaint sucking sound is what’s left of my soul vanishing into the void.

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    Kropadope says:


    Trump is the most honest. Think about that

    Skinny kid at fat camp principle?

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    rikyrah says:

    Wow , 38 years.

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    JGabriel says:

    Des Moines Register via Anne Laurie @ Top:

    Iowa Republicans said Wednesday that Clovis’ move raises questions about how he reconciles endorsing Trump with his previous stances and statements

    Expecting consistency from a Republican political consultant? That’s hilarious.

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    JGabriel says:

    @efgoldman: Congratulations, and best wishes for many more.

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    rikyrah says:

    I don’t get the show

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    ThresherK says:

    @Baud: Wait, is that being cross-promoted with “Little People, Big World”? I consume absolutely no reality TV.

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    jibeaux says:

    This split between the chamber of commerce types and the even nuttier types is coming, if they keep losing non-gerrymandered races. There won’t be anything to lose, and in the nuttier minds everything to gain by embracing their true batshit selves. Do you think we’re at that point yet, or later, or never? I think we’re close. I don’t think Republicans want Trump as an independent, and they simultaneously favor him above the others and he wins highest marks for the one they won’t support (there’s your split.) Fascinating dynamic.

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    Ultraviolet Thunder says:

    I’m stuck at LaGuardia past my bedtime trying to get from Manchester NH to Detroit before I have to get up in the morning. It’s already an hour past my bedtime.
    Some day I’ll be too old for this shit.
    Maybe soon.

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    Gravenstone says:

    @Scout211: Didn’t they used to have a name for tiny houses? I think it was, an “apartment”?

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    PurpleGirl says:

    TCM: on now Casablanca. They haven’t sung Les Marseilles yet.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @PurpleGirl: It’s coming soon.

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    Friend of mine in Florida is getting email from Publix urging her to stock up before the hurricane. They send her a list of possible buys, including latex free examining gloves. Since she’s an English professor, she puzzled over what she’s meant to do with them.

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    Gravenstone says:


    Expecting consistency from a Republican political consultant? That’s hilarious.

    I think this is what you meant …

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    WereBear says:

    @cckids: Well, pardon my sarcasm then. It sounds like it turned things around for her and she doesn’t want to be mean anymore.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @PurpleGirl: Sorry, La Marseillaise.


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    Gin & Tonic says:

    So there was a Cole post, then it disappeared. Since it takes about a half-hour per page load, I can’t be 100% sure, though.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: As many times as I watch the movie, that scene hits me emotionally.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @Gin & Tonic: No problem.

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    mdblanche says:

    You know, I just remembered this isn’t the first time Trump and Palin have held a meeting of the mindlesses.

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    Debbie says:


    I don’t know how many times I’ve seen that movie, but I always get teary when they start singing.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Iowa Old Lady:
    Removing passive voice once and for all?

    Gawd, I don’t know but suppose if there’s flooding the sewers back up and everything wet is a possible biohazard. I’d recommend going to higher ground but it’s Florida….

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    WereBear says:

    @PurpleGirl: me too.

    I believe I have figured out why we have relatively few yoots commenting here. The mobile version barely lets you comment.

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    What happened to the thread extolling the virtues of Red State in the years past?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: Maybe Cole rethought the value of explaining that measles are better than cholera.

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    sukabi says:

    @M. Bouffant: just located the next amendment on the chopping block.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: It’s back.

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    @Omnes Omnibus: I was going to say, that the Republicans were always this bad and that Cole didn’t see it because he didn’t want to see it.

    The Florida recount, the run up to the Iraq War are just two examples from the top of my head about their general awfulness.

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    NotMax says:

    To save time, here’s the transcript.

    SP: Tough but fair question first. Iran is the devil, right?

    DT: In every poll, my support skyrockets when I talk about the evil of the so-called agreement with Iran.

    SP: Have you ever been to Mexico?

    DT: Beautiful beaches, beautiful people. Why they want to leave – well, that’ll stop once I’m president. (loud clap) Boom! Just like that.

    SP: How great are you gonna make America again? Really great, really, really great or super-duper great?

    DT: Just look around – I’ve built great things. I’ve had a great TV show – a ratings bonanza. Huge audience, huge success. I know great, great is what I do, why so many, many great, great people are flocking to me.

    SP: Let’s get the facts on the table before we go. You’re really, really rich, right?

    DT: You betcha. *wink*

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: They’ve gotten worse in the past 20 years, but they have been awful for my whole life.

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    NotMax says:

    @Omnes Omnibus

    Preach it, O. O.

    All politics is dirty. Republican politics is filthy.

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    Anne Laurie says:


    Didn’t they used to have a name for tiny houses? I think it was, an “apartment”?

    Yeah, except these are perfect little jewel boxes for special snowflakes…

    I’m not being fair (only seen a couple shows, when we’re at the gym on the weekend) but it’s on the same kind of take-a-semi-reasonable-concept-and-pound-it-into-senseless-display model as most of the HGTV shows I’ve seen. “Tiny houses” are defined as under 600sqft, which is okay for a single person with maybe a cat or small dog… then they find couples, with several big dogs, or two young kids, or she’s pregnant but they’re talking about zero-carbon earth toilets & gravity plumbing. And of course half the time, they’ve never owned their own home before, so they have no idea of upkeep beyond “call the landlord”. And it’s really hard to get the proper permits in most cities, so the acreage they settle for is either on the inlaws’ land, or so far out in the boonies that getting utilities hooked up will cost as much again as the house proper…

    At least half the few couples in the shows I’ve seen end up abandoning the concept within a few months, but we’re all assured it’s a valuable learning experience.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    only seen a couple shows

    A couple of shows. Just in case eemom isn’t around.

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    Bobbo says:

    @dedc79: pure genius. Better than a rickroll

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    catclub says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: exactly.. If she had had the same emails on a federal server, having classified information on them is just as bad – actually worse, because all the machines have to be purged of classified info when there is ‘spillage’.

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    Kyle says:

    Like the big super PACs, I suppose he’s laying low until the carnage leaves a winner, but where is Karl Rove? It sort of freaks me out that he’s not being heard from, and you know that bastard is up to no good.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @Roger Moore: the 12th amendment doesn’t actually say that.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Kyle: Last I heard, the NYTimes said the sumbitch was “dedicating” his American Crossroads PAC to attacking Hillary Clinton. Same article said there was “a history” of bad blood between Turdblossom and JEB! (so the Establishment GOP is holding their skirts away from Karl’s contamination) and that newer fiercer ratfvkers like the Kochs were running right over his pudgy rump on their way to 2016.

    So, I’m not counting him out, not while he’s this side of the Styx. But I hope he’s enjoying getting kicked around by the monsters he helped create.

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    Kyle says:

    @Anne Laurie: I would like to hope that all the money he wasted in 2012 has diminished his influence but “rational thought” isn’t something I assume from the right wing folks.

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    NotMax says:

    Ingrid Bergman day on TCM. If anything, somehow she got better and better looking the older she became.

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    Mike G says:

    “His comments reveal no foundation in Christ, which is a big deal”

    A big positive deal as far as I’m concerned. We’ve had way too much of aggressive assholes who think, nay KNOW their Xtianity excuses any and all evils they commit.

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    low-tech cyclist says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    @Omnes Omnibus: I was going to say, that the Republicans were always this bad and that Cole didn’t see it because he didn’t want to see it.
    The Florida recount, the run up to the Iraq War are just two examples from the top of my head about their general awfulness.

    They weren’t pure evil IMHO until 1993, when they decided to engage in massive resistance to Clinton’s plan for universal health care just because its passage would have hurt them politically. (Major props to Digby for refusing to let us forget about or overlook this history.)

    My dad used to say that both parties desire the best for this country, they just have differing views on what that is. This was when the GOP proved him wrong, putting their political fortunes ahead of the well-being of tens of millions of Americans.

    And then the Gingrich Revolution of 1994 came along and locked the GOP in as the Party of Evil.

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