Wednesday Afternoon Open Thread

Here’s a photo taken by master photographer Bill Rauhauser in Detroit.

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It’s undated in the Slate article where I found it, but my guess would be the early 1960s.

Open thread!






163 replies
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    Lavocat says:

    I’m guessing that burlesque has improved a great deal since the 1960s – including the spelling.

    Though I do love me some hot nuns on stripper poles.

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    PaulW says:

    worst cosplay ever.

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    PaulW says:

    Did Trump just defend Planned Parenthood?

    This is what Fox Not-News gets when they refuse to send him the party-line memos.

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    Bill Murray says:

    caption:

    What’s a quickie?

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    Lee says:

    @PaulW:

    If so that will be awesome once it hits the interwebs!

    Holy shit it’s true!!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....3b20bb1c53

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    Elizabelle says:

    Are they protesting or there to visit their [great-]niece?

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    dmsilev says:

    @Lee: See http://talkingpointsmemo.com/l.....od-hannity

    “Let’s say there is two Planned Parenthoods in a way. You have it as an abortion clinic. Now that’s actually a fairly small part of what they do, but it’s a brutal part and I’m totally against it and I wouldn’t do that,” Trump told Hannity. “They also however service women.”
    […]
    “Maybe unless they stop with the abortions, we don’t do the funding for the stuff that we want,” Trump said in response. “There are many ways you can do that, because I’m totally against the abortion aspect at Planned Parenthood, but I’ve had many women, I’ve had many Republican conservative women come up and say Planned Parenthood serves a good function other than that one aspect.”

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @PaulW:
    Apparently so, according to TPM. I can’t even begin to guess how that will play with the Republican base.

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    trollhattan says:

    “Burlesk” sounds like a desk fashioned from a redwood burl, something I’d love to own. Did Detroiters need phonetic spel-ling back in the day? Wouldn’t “nay kid tih tees” have been more effective?

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    trollhattan says:

    @dmsilev:
    “They also, however, service women.” Even when The Donald is being reasonable he makes it sound sketchy.

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    jl says:

    @PaulW:

    ” This is what Fox Not-News gets when they refuse to send him the party-line memos. ”

    Reading off of party-line memos, like letting demonstrators at you event speak, is weak, for losers. The Trump is not a loser. No one tells Trump what to say. That is his main selling point.

    As I understand it, Trump said, hey, Planned Parenthood, it does a lot good, it does a lot of bad, you can’t have the bad (abortions) funded by the government.

    What that actually means, who knows?

    Trump is claiming he is going to come up with some actual policy. I guess we will see how serious the guy is if he comes through on that promise. If he can come up with anything on even a few issues even half as good as any of the Democrats, it will put the other GOPers in an interesting spot, I think, since then there will be one GOPer competitive with the likes of Walker, Bush and Rubio who is not spouting BS and talking points, like a loser.

    Speaking of losers, looks like Jeb! is going to press what I think is a desperate and dubious GOP talking point, that I thought would be held in reserve for an emergency: Dub’s effort in Iraq turned into a hard won victory that was frittered away through Obama’s feckless policies. I guess Jeb! has to go that route, since ihs foreign policy advisors are basically Dub and Cheney’s crew. Good luck, Jeb!, you;ll need it.

    I heard Jeb! try it out in a news clip this morning. Jeb! has been practicing ‘resolve’ and ‘firmness’. Let;s see how he handles questions. I guess the one I would ask is, “So, you are back to saying it was worth doing, knowing what we know now, after giving every conceivable answer the last time you had to deal with this issue?”

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    dmsilev says:

    @trollhattan: Apparently women go to Planned Parenthood to get their oil changed and their arms rotated.

    Who knew?

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    The photo reminds of the pilot episode of “Father Ted”

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    Poopyman says:

    @dmsilev: The Donald needs an editor:

    “Let’s say there is two Planned Parenthoods in a way. You have it as an abortion clinic. Now that’s actually a fairly small part of what they do, but it’s a brutal part and I’m totally against it and I wouldn’t do that,” Trump told Hannity. “They also however service women…. I’ve had many women, I’ve had many Republican conservative women …”

    He should definitely hire me to do his editing.

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    jl says:

    @dmsilev: When Trump woodsheds actual policy, looks like he will have to start with the very basics.

    @Poopyman: Well, he needs to play up the candor, given his talking points against HRC.

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    MattF says:

    @dmsilev: With the usual 50-50 split between parts and labor, I guess.

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    different-church-lady says:

    @trollhattan: Wasn’t Burl Esk the guy who played the snowman in Rudolph The Red Nosed Raindeer?

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    MattF says:

    @Amir Khalid: He just has to remember never to say anything positive about Obama. That would be the kiss of death.

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    KG says:

    the photo on display by the barber’s pole looks like its Bettie Page, so early 60s at the absolute latest, since she retired in 1958. But i’d guess late 50s.

    ETA: I’ve got a few old photos of LA and Long Beach up at my place. Part of what I love about the shots of various streets is figuring out when it was taken… usually based off of cars, theaters, and occasionally adverts.

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    p.a. says:

    @PaulW: Trump can read? Doesn’t he have underlings for that? “I’m The Underminer. I’m beneath you, but nothing is beneath me!”

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    beltane says:

    @Poopyman: I’d have thought Donald Trump preferred being serviced by women rather than the other way around, but life is full of surprises like that.

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    Brachiator says:

    Detroit was obviously a tough town for burlesk. I wonder how much those ladies charged for a lap dance.

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    Tree With Water says:

    Digby quotes a scaredy cat name of Georgescu at Salon.com:

    “I’m scared. The billionaire hedge funder Paul Tudor Jones is scared. My friend Ken Langone, a founder of the Home Depot, is scared. So are many other chief executives. Not of Al Qaeda, or the vicious Islamic State or some other evolving radical group from the Middle East, Africa or Asia. We are afraid where income inequality will lead.”

    Which brought a George Harrison song lyrics to my mind:

    “There’s a man talking on the radio
    What he’s saying, I don’t really know
    Seems he’s lost some stocks and shares
    Stops and stares, he’s afraid I know
    That’s the way it goes

    There’s a man talking of the Promised Land
    He’ll acquire it with some krugerand
    Subdivide and deal it out
    Feel his clout, he can stoop so low
    And that’s the way it goes”.

    There’s an actor who hopes to fit the bill
    Sees a shining city on a hill
    Step up close and see he’s blind
    Wined and dined, all he has is pose
    And that’s the way it goes

    There’s a fire that burns away the lies
    Manifesting in the spiritual eye
    Though you won’t understand the way I feel
    You conceal, all there is to know
    And that’s the way it goes

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    Jparente says:

    @Bill Murray: $10 Bucks, same as downtown!

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    Paul in KY says:

    @KG: Haircut $1.25 in Detroit. That would be a clue.

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    dedc79 says:

    Rod Dreher hasn’t read TNC’s book, but he’s pretty sure he’ll hate it:

    Have you read Ta-Nehisi Coates’s new book, his letter to his son about being black in America? I have not, and don’t intend to. He used to be one of my favorite bloggers, because even when I didn’t agree with him, I felt that I learned from him. He seemed to have an open, inquisitive, probing mind. The Trayvon Martin killing changed him, though. He entered into what his readers called a “blue period,” from which he never emerged (he explains its origins here). I quit reading him because his blog became a slough of despond, unrelieved by any humor, lightness, absurdity, or awareness that, in a Russell Kirk phrase I love and try to live by in spite of my own pessimistic bent, that “the world remains sunlit, despite its vices.” Reading Coates, I felt that I was in the presence of a man who had been conquered by despair, and who had become so committed to a vision of despair that any gesture towards hope seemed like betrayal.

    He goes on to liken Coates’ despair over America’s long (and ongoing) history of racial injustice to his own despair over the church abuse scandal. Seriously.

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    shell says:

    Betty, this made me think of you..
    http://imageshack.com/i/idFWgHnbj

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    jl says:

    @beltane: You saying Trump does not provide good services, very high class, excellent fantastic and luxurious services, to the women, many hot conservative Republican women? You may be appearing in an outraged Trump tweet soon.

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    Elie says:

    In a weird way, Trump reminds me a bit of Putin — each using recklessness and aggressiveness as a tool to seize power but without a real game plan besides having power. The Russian people adore Putin also but he has damaged the little fledgeling democracy that elected him and replaced it with a love of Putin devoid of effective governance and any succession for when he eventually leaves the scene. Here, we have a much more established government overall, but Trump is just kicking the shit out of what little remained of the Republican Party and replacing it with his personality cult. While not immediately dangerous to our country overall, its pretty dysfunctional in providing legitimate government and policy options for those of a conservative point of view. What is interesting to me is that none of the so called GOP have the guts to take this on and its implications. I hate Jeb! but used to credit the Bush crime family with the necessary ruthlessness to do what needs to be done. Not so sure anymore. Jeb!’s polls are in the toilet and he gets lamer and lamer with each passing day. So far there has been no evidence of the Bush ruthlessness — just fecklessness.

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    different-church-lady says:

    @KG: Here in “our fair city” one of the local news blogs frequently puts up photos from the city archives, saying, “can you figure out this location“, and we all kill the afternoon figuring out where and when.

    Being a map geek, this is like being sucked into an opium den for me. Historical maps, web research, old business directories. The tore down maybe 20% of Boston during the urban renewal craze, so sometimes the streets don’t even exist anymore. Other times the buildings are still standing and hardly changed.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Paul in KY: five bits? and no shave? Fuckin’ rip-off

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    Peale says:

    The spelling is rather hipster, but I’m wondering if Detroit had outlawed advertising “Burlesque” shows using certain words about them in signage and the owners got around the laws by intentional spelling errors. Burlesque might be the pen1s of its day.

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    Cacti says:

    Text of the e-mail I sent Senator Cantwell’s (D-WA) office yesterday:

    Dear Senator Cantwell,

    I am writing to express my concern over the lack of your support to date for the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action negotiated by the Obama Administration and other members of the P5 with Iran, concerning the latter’s nuclear program.

    As you are well aware, the same alliance of war hawk Republicans and war hawk Israeli officials that sold the American public the disastrous Iraq invasion and occupation of 2003-2011, are opposed to any peaceful or diplomatic solution, and are preparing a resolution of disapproval for any solution that won’t lead to another war.

    Sadly, you were among the 29 Democratic Senators who voted for the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. I am willing to assume that you acted in good faith on that occasion, and what you believed were the best interests for our country.

    However, I am extending no such benefit of the doubt on this occasion. Should you vote in favor of the Republican resolution of disapproval, you will be joining Senator Schumer as an unrepentant warmonger, who would rather stand with the Tea Party caucus than the Democratic President of the United States, and Secretary of State Kerry.

    Make the right choice this time Senator.

    Sincerely yours,

    Cacti

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    Keith G says:

    I have a question for those who use both tablets and laptops. My Asus t100 Transformer tablet passed away. I had it for 362 days. That’s important because I had a one year warranty on it. Micro Center says the motherboard issues make it more expensive to repair than to replace, so they are giving me full story credit for the purchase price.

    I value portability as much as I value having a keyboard, so a pure tablet is not anything I find interesting. Any suggestions about what I should be looking at for my next purchase?

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    dedc79 says:

    @Cacti: Letter generally looks good to me. But who are the “war hawk Israeli officials” that sold the American public on the war with Iraq? My recollection is that Netanyahu testified in favor, but that he was not in office at the time and that the Israeli government was ambivalent if not outright against it.

    ETA: Trying to find the story, but pretty sure that one of Colin Powell’s people (Wilkerson) at some point came out and said they were getting warnings from Israeli officials that a war with Iraq was a bad idea. The Israelis were (and clearly still are) mostly worried about Iran.

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    jl says:

    @Elie: I think almost no chance Trump will get even close to nomination. His lead looks good with opposition split between 16 opponents, but that soon will be 10 or 12 and will go down from there. How good will it look against 2 or 4 opponents? I guess depends on whether his unfavorables continue to decline among GOP primary voters. I’m guessing ti won;t go down enough to make up for pruning of the GOP ranks as primary develops, but that is just my guess.

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    Elie says:

    Here is interesting column on Putin

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Keith G: I just bought one of those for Mrs G&T, found it for $200, but I guess store credit won’t help you with that. We like that machine (also being somewhat tablet-phobic.)

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    NotMax says:

    @Keith G

    No specific suggestions, but felt ought to mention that Bluetooth keyboards for a tablet are not very costly these days.

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    Tree With Water says:

    Chuck Schumer’s People: “..Said [Michelle] Bachmann during the same radio interview: “The prophets longed to live in this day that you and I are privileged to live in.”

    That would be ex-congresswoman Bachman, during whose tenure the republican leadership placed on the Intelligence Committee for the House of Representatives.

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    MattF says:

    @Elie: And here is a column from Jim Hoagland debunking the notion that Putin is a KGB mastermind.

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    Elie says:

    @jl:

    I agree that he won’t but he has damaged the GOP and our overall sense of the integrity of our electoral process, doncha think? I think we have to be careful in dismissing that and think about what needs fixing (esp the Republicans). Next time, we may not be so lucky. Balance and legitimacy are not automatic but must be reasserted by will and intent…

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    Death Panel Truck says:

    @trollhattan: @Peale: From dictionary.com:

    3. Also, burlesk. a humorous and provocative stage show featuring slapstick humor, comic skits, bawdy songs, striptease acts, and a scantily clad female chorus.

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    beltane says:

    @Tree With Water: Yes, but Obama, not Michelle Bachmann, is the real anti-Semite.

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    Keith G says:

    @Gin & Tonic: I really liked it. Unfortunately this store doesn’t carry that model anymore. I found myself using the full keyboard configuration more than just the tablet however.

    Which has led me to think that maybe I just want a full laptop. Although when I use the tablet it was awfully nice to have that convenience.

    By the way, since they are replacing the unit, are they going to insist on keeping the old one. I have information on that that while not retrievable for me I sure don’t want to have info sitting a drive that might be recycled.

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    Paul in KY says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: It’s Detroit, Jim….

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    And on a completely different photo-related track than that taken by the esteemed Ms Cracker, here’s an interesting piece of photojournalism from this summer on/near Lake Baikal. Contrast that with that National Geographic sort of image that I think outsiders have, if they ever even think of Lake Baikal. Most of Siberia is in drought this summer, with fires everywhere, including around Baikal.

    The words accompanying the article are in Russian, but the photos are great regardless. The only thing that might escape the non-reader is that the building pictured in the first photo is the regional airport in Khuzhyr, on the island of Olkhon, which is pictured in the next two photo-montages. The article talks of a lot of friction between the local population and the few national park people trying to fight the fires.

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    Paul in KY says:

    @Peale: Lot of people from Kentucky went up there to work in the auto factories. Could be a colloquial spelling to get us hillbillies in there.

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    Elie says:

    @MattF:

    Thanks! Scary huh? Insane man near a bunch of nuclear missiles…

    But sheesh, did you see those man boobs? I bet Trump has some saggy ta tas covered with thin gray hair. I wonder if he wears a sleeping net on his head at night, or whether he gets up with the “do” standing straight up? (I know, I know, hard to get this out of MY head now)

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    @beltane: He has shoots-pa.

    ETA: That nun’s habit is pretty modern for the 1960s. I went to Catholic schools in Detroit, and they all wore the skirts to the floor and full headdress.

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    Paul in KY says:

    @dedc79: Israeli Likud politicians were most definitely for it.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Elie: “people who think in terms of worst-case scenarios, who believe that the next disaster is just around the corner, who thrive on crises, who are addicted to extraordinary situations and no-rules politics” describes an awful lot of people in the former Soviet Union.

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    Keith G says:

    @NotMax: Thank you that’s a great idea. I hadn’t thought of that

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    Cacti says:

    @dedc79:

    My recollection is that Netanyahu testified in favor, but that he was not in office at the time and that the Israeli government was ambivalent if not outright against it.

    Primarily Bibi and Ron Dermer.

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    @Steve in the ATL:

    Are you thinking of the pilot or the “Passion of St. Tibulus” episode?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gT9xuXQjxMM

    The pilot is when Dougal wants to see the spider-baby at the fair.

    ETA: I forgot about the two old ladies who are fans of “The Crying Game.”

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    beltane says:

    @Paul in KY: And then you have those people who play for Team Likud and Team GOP at the same time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Dermer

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    Elie says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Uh — yeah… that was what the column that I linked said. — that it was a characteristic of Russians after the fall of the USSR and that Putin is a reflection of that..

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    jl says:

    @Elie: Not sure that Trump has damaged the political process any more than the GOP itself has over the last 30 years. And not sure how different Trump is from Perot, other than putting on a more vulgar and opulent show. Trump may also be less crazy than Perot turned out to be, IIRC.

    Depends to some extent what Trump looks like after he attempt to deliver on his promise of developing an actual non-joke policy platform. I am not hopeful, but I am curious about what he comes up with, if anything. That would be real innovation for the GOP of recent years.

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    Another Holocene Human says:

    @trollhattan: Simplified phonetic spelling was extremely popular in mid-century America, especially in commercial and marketing applications. Some of it was in pursuit of the trademarkable name, but some of it was a genuine notion that America was transitioning to more efficient, logical, clear spellings. Nite and lite are two great examples. (Lite now means something else.)

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    gelfling545 says:

    I’d say late 60’s. Nuns (at least around here) were still in full habit in ’62 when I graduated from grade school. Around ’68 (my HS graduation) was when the modified habit began to be more common.

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    Tree With Water says:

    This is one of the most chilling utterances I have ever heard spoken by a American politician:

    Jeb! Bush: “Our unrivaled warfighters know that it is simply not enough to dispense advice and training to local forces, then send them on their way and hope for the best”.

    Warfighters?

    He makes our Republic’s soldiers sound like the subdivision of some damn conglomerate…. because that’s the way he views the planet and its people, i.e., as cogs in a vast proprietary machine.

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    jl says:

    @Cacti: Netanyaho was a total cheerleader for the Iraq invasion and testified in front of Congress in favor, gung-ho in favor. He aped the Dub-Cheney line on how great it would be.

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    srv says:

    @Keith G: Apple is the answer to everything.

    That said, people who work with PCs and tabs and seek There Can Only Be One seem quite pleased with the Surface Pro 3.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBJTo51KlVc

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Elie: He was saying that it was a characteristic of the “elites” and the people around Putin. I’m saying that it’s a characteristic of a far larger portion of the population.

    “people who think in terms of worst-case scenarios, who believe that the next disaster is just around the corner” can be applied to almost every Slav, in fact.

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    Cacti says:

    @dedc79:

    Trying to find the story, but pretty sure that one of Colin Powell’s people (Wilkerson) at some point came out and said they were getting warnings from Israeli officials that a war with Iraq was a bad idea. The Israelis were (and clearly still are) mostly worried about Iran.

    Along with Bibi, Shimon Peres and Ehud Barak were also banging the war drums for Dubya in 2002, and Peres was the sitting Minister of Foreign Affairs at the time.

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    rikyrah says:

    Joe Cirincione ‏@Cirincione 1h1 hour ago
    Phony vets “group” set up to oppose #IranDeal. Looks like 4-5 front vets & big money behind. This scam copies 2004 “Swiftboat” attacks.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Tree With Water: Warfighters

    wow, that’s somewhere between Luntz and Palin

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    Elie says:

    @jl:

    I agree that its likely that the GOP has damaged itself more in the last 20-30 years — and that he is a reflection of that damage rather than any cause per se. I still believe, however, that it will be hard for any of the GOP candidates to come across with any confidence or power, the longer Trump keeps running the table. The current GOP candidates (except Trump), seem like inbred white rats with no immune system to be able to fend off invading diseases. They just blink blindly with their little red beady eyes and pee in the sawdust at the bottom of their cages. When someone gives “the signal” somewhere, they jump on the treadmill and then ring the bell when they jump off, just like they were trained during their brain control experiments.

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    Calouste says:

    @jl: I don’t think it is going to go down to 2-4 opponents for Trump any time soon. Walker and Bush got too much money behind them, as do possibly Cruz and Rubio. Carson and Huckabee really think they have been chosen by their god, and Paul needs to keep the family grift going. Can’t see any of them really standing out so far from the rest of the pack that the others will lose hope of being the one that upstages Trump. All the early primaries will split their delegates (no winner-takes-all).

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    beltane says:

    @Cacti: There is a big difference between Israeli military/intelligence officials and Israeli politicians. Unfortunately, the Israeli politicians are the ones with influence in Congress.

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    MattF says:

    @Tree With Water: That’s just military jargon. Apparently, Jeb! has been taking advice from professional warmongers.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Tree With Water:
    Then what does Jeb consider enough? Fighting other people’s fights for them?

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    Brachiator says:

    A little light hearted news:

    An archeologist has a theory about where the famous ancient Egyptian queen Nefertiti might be buried—through a door in her maybe-son Tutankhamun’s tomb. Well, that would be tremendously convenient.

    The Economist reports on a paper newly published by the University of Arizona’s Nicholas Reeves, outlining his intriguing theory.

    http://pictorial.jezebel.com/a.....1723628692

    King Tut,
    Now we found yo mamma,
    King Tut,
    And she’s a MILF ‘arama

    Born in Arizona,
    Moved to Babylonia,
    King Tut

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    Elie says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Ok — got it now. I guess I just read it as characterizing everyone in Russia — or else there wouldn’t be as much support for Putin.

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    Paul in KY says:

    @beltane: What a scumwad. He may get some medal from Israel, but I think he (and the other cheerleaders) should be in prison.

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    trollhattan says:

    @AndoChronic:
    The Beeb says it’s a “petrol storage station,” which makes sense in a port city. Being China it’s doubtless surrounded by apartments (just like Texas). Hopefully the death toll isn’t sky high.

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    Paul in KY says:

    @Amir Khalid: Got to have wars to break and/or shoot off all the expensive shit the MIL loves to sell us.

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    @Paul in KY: Your mother in law sells arms?

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    @Gin & Tonic:

    So Mel Brooks was accurate with the song he wrote for “The Twelve Chairs”?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gX1hZzMeyEw

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    Paul in KY says:

    @Iowa Old Lady: Gotta pay the bills somehow. Excellent markup on missiles, laser death rays. Not so much on swords & maces.

    In reality, I meant MIC for Military Industrial Complex. That’s what happens when I type too fast.

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    Brachiator says:

    @KG:

    the photo on display by the barber’s pole looks like its Bettie Page, so early 60s at the absolute latest, since she retired in 1958. But i’d guess late 50s.

    I think you may be right. Good catch.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Iowa Old Lady: @Paul in KY:
    Best family Thanksgiving gettogethers known! “We’re having a special on turkey legs and RPGs. Come on down!”

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    tom says:

    From http://arthopper.org/a-muse-the-dia/ which is where the photo came from:

    Stone Burlesk, Woodward Ave., Detroit, about 1960. Bill Rauhauser. Detroit Institute of Arts. © Bill Rauhauser, 2012.

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    bystander says:

    @Cacti: Bravi! (A plural bravo.)

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    jl says:

    @Elie:

    ” The current GOP candidates (except Trump), seem like inbred white rats with no immune system to be able to fend off invading diseases. They just blink blindly with their little red beady eyes and pee in the sawdust at the bottom of their cages. When someone gives “the signal” somewhere, they jump on the treadmill and then ring the bell when they jump off, just like they were trained during their brain control experiments. ”

    A horrible but apt image. Jarring for me too, since I don’t have the contempt for lab rats that I do for the likes of Jeb!, Walker, Rubio and the rest. Especially Jeb!, the more I see and hear of him, the more sheer gut level contempt I feel for this rank fraud. I hope he continues to be as incompetent as he is obnoxious and dishonest.

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    bystander says:

    Was “Burley-Q” just a pronunciation or am I remembering a variant spelling?

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    jl says:

    Stone Cold Burlesk would be a good caption for a pic of the next GOP primary debate.

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    @Iowa Old Lady:

    I think it depended on the order the nuns belonged to. The ones who had more contact with the public (like hospitals etc) usually had less restrictive habits.

    Carmelites are a common order for teaching nuns to come from, and they had the full-length habits.

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    Paul in KY says:

    @trollhattan: It’ll be a blast!!!!

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    Paul in KY says:

    @jl: Make a good band name too. Hair metal.

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    CONGRATULATIONS! says:

    Warfighters?

    He makes our Republic’s soldiers sound like the subdivision of some damn conglomerate…. because that’s the way he views the planet and its people, i.e., as cogs in a vast proprietary machine.

    @Tree With Water: It’s what the military calls themselves as well. It’s a dogwhistle. “Hey, I’m one of you guys, I get it!”

    More pathetic by the day.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Keith G:

    I value portability as much as I value having a keyboard, so a pure tablet is not anything I find interesting. Any suggestions about what I should be looking at for my next purchase?

    I guess a question might be what do you do, or want to do, with your device?

    Have you considered a Chromebook or the upcoming Windows 10 cloudbooks? Obviously these devices are new, and some models have not been released yet, but they may turn out to be a value alternative (if they are not total pieces of crap)

    http://www.itworld.com/article.....d-you.html

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @shell: Very boxer-like. They are inappropriate sitters.

    @Elie:

    The current GOP candidates (except Trump), seem like inbred white rats with no immune system to be able to fend off invading diseases. They just blink blindly with their little red beady eyes and pee in the sawdust at the bottom of their cages. When someone gives “the signal” somewhere, they jump on the treadmill and then ring the bell when they jump off, just like they were trained during their brain control experiments.

    Wow. Great analogy. So true.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @dmsilev: that’s not a defense. That’s “nice mammogram service you got there. Shame if something was to happen to it. Now stop with the slutty slut gay Muslim abortion crap or we’ll shut you down.” And since Tony Kennedy finds anything but the concept of choice super icky I’m sure it’s constitutional.

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    bystander says:

    Andrea Mitchell somehow uses the word “socialist” in front of Bernie Sanders’ name at every opportunity. Is there some reason why she doesn’t identify Israel as “socialist” everytime she refers to it?

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    shell says:

    Warfighters?

    Sounds abit Romney-esque.

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    scav says:

    I’m getting dizzy. Trump is semi-defending Planned Parenthood and chez Erick-Squared someone is hollering that Hillary Clinton proves “even a homely woman can sleep her way into power.”

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    smintheus says:

    @KG: I’d guess early ’50s for that photo.

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    WereBear says:

    @Keith G: Chromebook.

    Dirt cheap, light, up to ten hour battery life.

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    The Thin Black Duke says:

    Here’s the trailer for Quentin Tarantino’s new film. I’ve been disappointed by Quentin’s last few movies, to be honest, but I love westerns, damn it.

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    Elie says:

    @jl:

    There is not ONE of the Republican candidates who offers any serious candidacy skills or vision in my opinion. It is very scary that not one can be taken seriously. Our democracy was not meant to work well without serious and credible opposition. If any of them had some, they could pull their party back into respectability by just laughing at Trump and calling HIM a few names and to get serious or shut up. They all whimper and mew and pee in the sawdust some more. Not one has the capacity or capability of doing anything more than that and to me its embarrassing for our country, not just their party.

    Its interesting that I remember some on BJ likening the Republican Party to the Soviets… it seems that comparison may have been more apt than we realized. They are a bunch of mealy mouths and one ruthless asshole with no plan and no organization.

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    @jl:

    And not sure how different Trump is from Perot, other than putting on a more vulgar and opulent show.

    The obvious difference is that Trump is trying to work through one of the existing parties rather than building his own. Third parties are inherently a riskier, more expensive proposition, but they have the potential to be much more transformative if they’re successful.

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    @Keith G: A Chromebook might be what you’re looking for to replace your tablet. The Pixel is the best chromebook you can buy, but it’s seriously pricey to where you might as well get a full-blown laptop. An Asus C300 is in the price neighborhood of your tablet, and their build quality is better than many laptops twice the price.

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    Splitting Image says:

    Considering the style of the nun’s habit, I would say it has to be post-Vatican II, which means the photo can’t be earlier than 1962, and probably is closer to 1965. Judging by the old-timey look of the barbershop to the right, I doubt it can be much later than that.

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    beltane says:

    At #85 the photo is indentified as have been taken in 1960.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Elie:

    Here is interesting column on Putin

    The most interesting thing is that it is not about Putin at all. And it reminds me of the old Kremlinologists who would spend endless amounts of time trying to figure out who was in and who was out based on their position in a photograph.

    I suppose that Putin will continue to pull the strings of whoever might next be formally elected to a leadership position, assuming that Putin doesn’t run or declare himself to be leader for life.

    But the most original thing about the piece is that it suggests that Putin has not considered who might replace him after he is gone (or he’s just not saying), and this potential power vacuum is the most troubling question of all.

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    divF says:

    @dmsilev:

    Apparently women go to Planned Parenthood to get their oil changed and their arms rotated.

    I know, I know, you’re a woman who’s been getting nothing but dirty breaks. Well, we can clean and tighten your brakes, but you’ll have to stay in the garage all night.
    — Groucho Marx, Monkey Business

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    Elizabelle says:

    RIP. Uggie, little terrier star of “The Artist” has died, aged 13. Prostate cancer.

    I loved that little doggie. Great cinematic flair.

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    Elizabelle says:

    LA Times story on Uggie, who won the Palm Dog, and had a pretty sweet life offscreen too.

    He was a Jack Russell Terrier.

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    gogol's wife says:

    @Elizabelle:

    He was great. I finally saw that film and loved it.

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    divF says:

    @Elizabelle:

    Palm Dog

    It took a second, but I got it and it put a smile on my face.

    ETA: The award is real, and presented at Cannes.

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    Elie says:

    @Brachiator:

    But isn’t that the nature of a “personality cult”? No one can ask about anything or develop a plan or strategy. If what the author said, it doesn’t sound like Putin or his current “administration” care much about running things and taking care of “the little people”. That sounds pretty damned familiar to me from right here.. Yes, succession is scary but I think its also scary that Putin seems to be flying by the seat of his pants and may therefore be (in fact probably is), very unpredictable. Not good for them or the world. Our Republicans are a weaker sauce, but have the same poor governance traits ala Walker, Kasich, Jindal, Perry and others.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Iowa Old Lady: I went to Catholic grade school in the Chicago area, and I also had two aunts who were nuns in the Sisters of Saint Joseph. So I saw a lot of nuns!

    We visited the aunts at the convent every christmas and every year before we went back to school in the fall – the “modern” habit seen in the photo above was definitely worn by nuns from maybe 1965 on? Some kept the old fashioned habit, but many nuns ditched the old habits for the new ones.

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    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @Keith G: How about a Surface 3? Same processor as the Transformer(Intel Atom) and cheaper than the Surface 3 Pro(i series processors). Full HD, with pen support.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @CONGRATULATIONS!:

    It’s what the military calls themselves as well.

    Since when?

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    jl says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Maybe Jeb! meant to say ‘warriors’ I think ‘warriors’ is used in the military, though taxpayer me does not like that term.

    Seems like step up in coked up high octane warmonger frenzy to use ‘warfighters’, but then that is Rummy’s conception of what government troops are, they just war-battle-shoot-kill-‘splode-stuff that is all, doing anything else is sissy stuff that will un-man them. Another sign that the old Dub-Cheney team is running Jeb!’s foreign policy. I hope that issue comes up often and prominently with that turd of a candidate.

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    Tree With Water says:

    @CONGRATULATIONS!: I’m OK with military vernacular when bandied about by soldiers talking shop. Who isn’t? But in his remarks Bush betrays a profound disconnect between soldiering for our Republic, and a United States of America where Starship troopers wage perennial wars in the name of corporate mammon. The man, his family, and the republican party are monstrous in their appetites, and a curse on them all.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @jl: The term warriors is used in the military. I never heard anyone used warfighters.

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    raven says:

    @jl: No, Warfighters is common. Wharfrats moreso for deadheads!

    eta It’s also one of of those stupid fucking computer games.

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    raven says:

    Operation Warfighter
    Ready to make an impact? Click here to get startedOperation Warfighter (OWF) is a temporary assignment/internship program, developed by the Department of Defense, for service members that are convalescing at military treatment facilities at first in the National Capitol Region but increasingly throughout the United States. The program provides recuperating service members with meaningful activity outside of the hospital environment and offers a formal means of transition back to the military or civilian workforce.

    Operation Warfighter is a great opportunity for service members on medical hold to build their resumes, explore employment interests, develop job skills, and gain valuable federal government work experience that will help them prepare for their adjustment to the workplace. Each Service member must DoD’s OWF Program Manager, Office of Wounded Warrior Care & Transition Policy, DoD, at warriorcare@osd.mil prior to placement in a Federal internship program. Participants must be American citizens who are on active duty in the military (including the National Guard and Reserves). They must also fulfill the security clearance requirements set by the office where they intend to work.

    The Department of Homeland Security welcomes these individuals to the Department. Based on their skills, expertise, and interest, Warfighters are placed in host offices and assigned a supervisor and a mentor. Host offices are available in many areas of the Department including human resources, security, operations and administration.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @raven: @raven: New to me. It was not a term I ever heard bandied about.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Elie:

    But isn’t that the nature of a “personality cult”?

    I’m not seeing much of a cult of personality here, but a nation dependent on Putin’s whims, insecurities, indecision, lack of direction. The article speaks of in fighting that erupts because Putin fails to make a decision. Instability arising from a lack of leadership. Not like the iron rule of, say, the ruler of North Korea. And it sounds as though Russia has totally shrugged off the old stifling Soviet system, but has not replaced it with anything.

    But again, the problem is that the author does not give any suggestion of actually understanding Putin, or having dealt extensively with anyone who knows him. There are suggestions of a fragile regime hanging on by a thread, and ministers having to improvise because of a lack of direction. It would be useful to know whether there are any potentially strong subordinates, or the degree to which lawless oligarchs have worked to fill the gaps, or even how the country manages to operate at all. It is a very provocative article, but it is hard to agree with any of its tentative conclusions because there are just too many unanswered questions.

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    @Tree With Water: Jeb thinks he has military cred because his father served in the military?

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    jl says:

    @raven: Is Warfighters used as a generic term for troops? Non-ironically, and not as soldier jargon? By whom? I’ve never heard a politician or office holder use that term before.

    Jeb! going to talk about ‘Sitrep’ and ‘Opsec’ next?

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    Tree With Water says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: I have never heard the term used before, but then, I avoided military service with tremendous enthusiasm way-back-when. It doesn’t resonate with me as sounding typically American, though, but neither does the 4th Reich-sounding “Homeland” that Bush-Cheney foisted upon the country.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    When patronizing a restaurant I am no mere “diner” I, sir, am a FoodEater!” and demand to be referred to as such.

    “The FoodEater at Table Seven is sending this back because he declares it “undercooked.”
    “Spit on it, throw it in the ‘wave for twenty seconds and bring it back to the FoodEater, STAT!”

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: I am not going to go there.

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    Elie says:

    @Brachiator:

    This was from commenter Matt upstring. It doesn’t get at all of your specific questions, but like the article I referenced, describes Putin as not really a leader capable of organized leadership in a structured framework, but a “failed” KGB spy who failed precisely because he lacked the ability to exert disciplined organizational skills.

    I think for right now, its a lot to ask to have an article that details all of what is going on in Russia from a person or persons with intimate knowledge of same and who also know what the succession would be, doncha think? Its not exactly an open society where information comes easily. Even if imperfect, we at least get a glimpse of what might be going on. We certainly see enough to make the broader comparison that I did of Putin to Trump.. though that is a limited comparison for sure.

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    @Omnes Omnibus: He hasn’t been here, off late. Or else I have missed those threads, have not been checking Balloon Juice as much these days.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @jl: It sounds to me like the term is only applied to the people participating in the specific program that raven mentioned.

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    Brachiator says:

    @jl:

    Is Warfighters used as a generic term for troops? Non-ironically, and not as soldier jargon? By whom?

    To me, it sounds like Jeb! saw “Mad Max: Fury Road” and lost his mind, and tried to create a neologism inspired by the Warboys in that film.

    Maybe he got too shiny and chrome.

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    Kay says:

    @WereBear:

    Chromebook.
    Dirt cheap, light, up to ten hour battery life.

    I love mine. The laptop I have feels like it weighs 40 pounds now, in comparison. I never take it anymore. They genuinely go all day out and about without recharging.

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    Anoniminous says:

    OED:

    warfighter: A soldier in combat.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Elie:

    I think for right now, its a lot to ask to have an article that details all of what is going on in Russia from a person or persons with intimate knowledge of same and who also know what the succession would be, doncha think?

    I don’t think it possible to know all of what is going on in Russia from an article or two, but you cannot make judgements about who Putin is from a fuzzy, impressionistic piece about Russia’s search for “vision.” The two articles you cite together suggest that Putin is not the strong leader that some (including Republicans) swoon over, but a man in over his head, who is running things badly because he doesn’t understand what he is doing.

    You have to be careful with comparisons with Trump. The Donald has been (more or less) a successful businessman, where Putin here is depicted as a former failure who somehow magically scrambled to the top.

    However, I think that Trump may be like Putin in that he is someone who would be a total incompetent as president or any kind of political leader.

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    Elie says:

    @Brachiator:

    I appreciate your admonition not to take two articles in popular media as all she wrote about Putin. I get it. I certainly also know the limitations of any comparisons of Putin to anyone, much less Trump. It was just a conversation for entertainment — purely speculation since I donot have any way of having direct knowledge of Putin, Trump, Snow White or the Seven Dwarfs. That is what we do on blogs, no? (though I allow that we are fortunate enough some times to have real people with direct experience and knowledge sharing in the comment string. I am interested in politics, history , political science but am just a nurse. I try to stay informed but am quick to point out my limitations)

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): If I may be pedantic, “Passion of St. Tibulus” was the pilot, but was not shown as the first episode, for reasons known only to the BBC or perhaps a more hardcore Ted fanatic.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    Cross-posted from the thread upstairs, where it was off-topic:

    President Jimmy Carter has just announced he has liver cancer, which has spread to other parts of his body. He’ll undergo treatment at Emory Hospital in Atlanta.

    I’m not one to pray for people, but if I were ever going to make an exception it would be for him. I certainly wish him a thorough and comfortable recovery, and I’ll send a card to let him know I’m thinking of him. He’s a good man who has done incredible good around the world, and I’m not ready to say goodbye just yet.

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    Speaking of laptops and tablets does anyone have experience with the laptop-tablet combos out there. I want to replace my Dell Inspiron laptop which has served me well for about 8 years now. I replaced almost everything in it from the hard drive to RAM. It still works great but I feel like its time for a change.

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    I first heard “warfighter” when I worked at a Beltway Bandit in 1988. It sounded to me more like a term that Pentagon procurement types used to impress civvies than any actual term of art. Think about it: “woah, these guys fight actual wars — unlike me, a bourgeois suburbanite ween…”

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    Brachiator says:

    @Elie: The second article in particular was quite good in noting that there is shockingly a lot of failure when you look beyond Putin’s tough strongman image. This was a welcome corrective to the way that he has typically been depicted in the press.

    ETA: nurses are my heroes, especially after some recent health scares.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: considering some of the stuff he did in the navy it’s amazing he’s still alive.

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    trollhattan says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    Jimmy Carter is the best “worst president” of my lifetime. Every time I hear some Republican or other use him as the de facto example of a failed president I grind my teeth just short of dust. This doesn’t sound good–I can only wish him and his family a graceful passage through what’s to come.

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    Kay says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Oh, I’m sorry about that. I always liked him. I think he’s honest.

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    Tree With Water says:

    “There is an increasingly viable proposal for the Raiders in Los Angeles. Owners seem taken with a $1.7 billion proposed stadium in Carson, which also won’t require a public vote, that would house the Chargers and Raiders. And the Raiders seem content to play second fiddle, as long as it gets them out of Oakland”.

    A question to southern California football fans: In terms of suitability, i.e., commuting to and from Carson to watch NFL games, how well situated is the town? Jerry Brown should declare it a state insane asylum for wasting all the money it’s about to flush down the toilet..

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    Elie says:

    @Brachiator:

    Thank you for the compliment…

    Putin would make a great opera star in my opinion….

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    @Steve in the ATL:

    Ah. The DVDs are in broadcast order, one assumes.

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    Elie says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    My prayers are with him. He has had a remarkable life and he will leave good things behind. He may not have been the best President but he was a really good man. The energy for goodness and love is never lost to the universe. That energy that remains is the only eternity we can ever have…

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    @Tree With Water:

    It’s not horribly situated — it’s closer to Long Beach than it is to LA, so it’s convenient for the Orange County crowd.

    The city of LA and LA County Supervisors consistently refuse to give the NFL one thin dime of taxpayer money for a stadium, so it makes sense that one of the smaller cities would bite. Sadly, I think Carson will quickly realize why LA and other cities refused to accept the white elephant of an NFL team.

    (Fun fact: Seattle Seahawks star Richard Sherman is from the neighboring city of Compton.)

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    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @Tree With Water: Carson, ain’t gona happen. The Chargers aren’t really serious about moving. The Rams are moving to Inglewood at the former site of Hollywood Park.

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    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): Carson should talk to Irwindale about the Raiders.

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    Brachiator says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Speaking of laptops and tablets does anyone have experience with the laptop-tablet combos out there.

    I’m also looking for a laptop, but unfortunately do not know about laptop-tablet combos.

    Have you looked at some of the recommendations at the Wirecutter?

    http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/laptops/

    There was an interesting review of an Acer hybrid on the TWIT program Before You Buy. A transcript here:

    https://twit.tv/posts/transcripts/you-buy-165-transcript

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    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: Look at the Surface Pro 3.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Bobby Thomson:

    Indeed. The Chalk River incident related at the link is an interesting story. Radioactive urine for six months afterwards, yikes!

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com.....cle614379/

    (Full disclosure: The book launch at the Carter boyhood home in Plains was an event I coordinated on behalf of the Canadian Consulate General, and Art Milnes, the author of Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter: A Canadian Tribute, has become a good personal friend.)

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    trollhattan says:

    @BillinGlendaleCA:
    That Raiders edition was still piloted by Al Davis’ more or less life-like corpse, the same Al Davis who nearly finagled Sacramento into taking out a $50M loan for a franchise fee when he was “ready to move” there.

    Good times….

    Only thing that makes sense for LA (in the metro area sense) is a shared stadium with 16 home games/year ala Giants-Jets. Please, let one of them be the Raiders.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @trollhattan:

    I’m the same. It never makes sense to me that the RWNJ contingent talk about how awful he is. And they never ever consider the great accomplishments he’s had in the almost four decades since leaving office. Kind of like the way they can’t get past “Hanoi Jane” to consider other aspects of Jane Fonda’s life and work (which, BTW,, has included directing an Atlanta pregnancy prevention program for The Carter Center).

    @Kay:

    I agree. I think he’s as honest as a human being can be — sometimes to the point that his honesty, or bluntness anyhow, backfires on him.

    @Elie:

    And that energy will trump the negativity of his haters every time.

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    Tree With Water says:

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): More precisely, it’s “Seattle Seahawks star [and Stanford graduate] Richard Sherman”, as the man himself pointedly reminded Rush Limbaugh, or George Will, or some other right winger who publicly tangled with him a couple of years ago (on twitter, as I recall)..

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    @Tree With Water:

    A question to southern California football fans: In terms of suitability, i.e., commuting to and from Carson to watch NFL games, how well situated is the town? Jerry Brown should declare it a state insane asylum for wasting all the money it’s about to flush down the toilet..

    Carson is already home to LA’s MLS stadium, and I don’t remember hearing anything especially bad about getting there. There are 4 freeways that go through Carson (I-110, I-405, I-710, and CA-91), so it has decent road access. It doesn’t currently have great public transit access, but it’s close enough they might be able to run buses to the nearest stops on the Blue and Green lines on game days. I have a hard time believing that it will be any harder to get to than the Rose Bowl.

    And the stadium is supposed to be privately funded. I assume the city will pay for some infrastructure improvements, but they aren’t funding that $1.7 billion for the stadium. Private funding has been a practical requirement for any proposed NFL stadium in the LA area.

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    Cervantes says:

    @Iowa Old Lady:

    ETA: That nun’s habit is pretty modern for the 1960s. I went to Catholic schools in Detroit, and they all wore the skirts to the floor and full headdress.

    Photo was probably taken between ’54 and ’61. The Stone was on the 2500 block of Woodward Avenue. You can see in the barber’s window the reflection of a building, sort of across the street. If it’s the building I’m thinking of, it was a hotel that at some point became a nursing home run by Carmelite sisters.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Tree With Water:

    A question to southern California football fans: In terms of suitability, i.e., commuting to and from Carson to watch NFL games, how well situated is the town?

    Carson is actually not bad. A location tossed around in downtown LA near the Staples Center would choke with the extra traffic congestion and parking issues.

    Inglewood would also work well, and might be a better location. Back in the day you had a fair amount of traffic to the Forum and to Hollywood Park racetrack, and people could get in and out fairly well.

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    @Cervantes:

    That would also explain the habit being “modern” pre-Vatican II — I think the nuns who were in nursing positions were allowed to adopt more practical habits earlier than the less active orders.

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    Denali says:

    @Siubhan Diunne,

    Oh no. I am so shocked and sorry to hear this sad news about Jimmy Carter.

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