Erik Erickson, the gentleman kingmaker
— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) August 8, 2015
Very-Nearly-Reverend Erick “Goat-Fucking Child Molester” Erickson has found an excuse to ringfence his marketable bloc of marks true Conservative believers from that nasty New York upstart [NY Daily News, because I didn’t want to link to Townhall]:
Donald Trump has been fired, from speaking at the annual RedState Gathering.
The Republican frontrunner was originally set to address the gathering’s closing tailgate party at the College Football Hall of Fame, but RedState Editor-in-Chief Erick Erickson announced late Friday night that he has been uninvited.
“I have rescinded my invitation to Mr.Trump. While I have tried to give him great latitude, his remark about Megyn Kelly was a bridge too far,” Erickson wrote on Twitter…
In a longer post on the RedState website, Erickson clarified the remarks were regarding Trump’s Friday night comment that Kelly “had blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her whatever.”
“He is not a professional politician and is known fo rbeing a blunt talker. He connects with so much of the anger in the Republican base and is not afraid to be outspoken on a lot of issues. But there are even lines blunt talkers and unprofessional politicians should not cross,” Erickson said…
… says the man who first came to public attention when he called Supreme Court Justice David Souter “a goat-fucking child molester”. Last night, from his RedState review of the debate:
…The candidates showed humor and feistiness. The candidates were wise to let the moderators mostly handle Donald Trump. Trump was hilarious, but it seems even the crowd at the RedState Gathering who like Trump thought he lacked some depth where he should have had some. There was a lot of anger toward Trump, even from his supporters at the Gathering, that he’d potentially run third party. People want to beat Hillary…
Erickson, who’s about to step away from his Chief Editor position at RedState, is busy monetizing his mailing list for a more upscale bunch of buyers. That means cutting (public) ties with the lowest tier of his audience (thus the cries of Cuckservative! arising from the Stormfront-adjacent depths of True RWNJ-ery) and hewing to the market-friendly behests of the RNC. The Base loves The Donald, but Trump has made himself an embarrassment to the Republican Party by saying out loud in public what they prefer to dogwhistle in quiet rooms. Ergo, Trump Must Go, and Erickson is the stern usher hastening to escort him from the bible study hall.
Further reporting on Redstate the Gathering to come, no doubt…
Spotted a crew from Vice/HBO covering RedState Gathering.
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) August 7, 2015
ETA:
Shouldn't @EWErickson invite David Souter to replace Donald Trump?
— Norman Ornstein (@NormOrnstein) August 8, 2015
MattR
Not sure if it is more like the stopped clock or the infinite number of monkeys on their infinte typewriters, but if you keep speaking you will eventually say something that all decent people will agree with, even if you are saying it for the wrong reasons
jonas
Sure it wasn’t from the new Onion EDGE network?
jl
Maybe it is a liberal enclave thing limited to places like SF Bay Area, but about those huge ratings: the local news reports noted that there were two types of Fox News debate parties: the larger Democratic ones devoted to drinking games and ridicule, and the smaller GOP gatherings that were treating it like a serious debate. The interviews at the D gatherings had people saying things like ‘duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude!!! Hilarious’ with lots of background laughter.
The interviews at the GOP gatherings were kind of sad. You can imagine them “I liked this clown going in, but that clown seemed really strong and angry,like a real leader.” Whatever.
The moderators ran a crooked debate run by a crooked media corporation,obviously slanting the questions to try to cull the field of bozos to their liking. Though I was only able to watch the first half, and just read the transcript for the rest.
Frightening that a major party has fallen down to the bottom of the privy.
Not sure I will watch any more for a while. It was like a supercharged power chug binge of political junk food. So, you sit down and slurp a dozen root beer floats, chew through a gallon of chocolate ice cream with whipped cream and caramel sauce, with a large double frosted red velvet cake for dessert. You don’t want anymore for awhile.
And, as I said, ultimately, a sad and disgusting spectacle of political fraud from start to finish, front to back.
ruemara
I just found out I know the family of the douchbro behind the bullshit Planned Parenthood videos. Holy moly.
David Koch
So calling a sitting President an illegal alien is okay. Calling Mexicans rapists and drug mules is okay. Saying POWs are cowards is okay. Insulting a spokesmodel – that’s over the line.
Got it.
? Martin
@David Koch: Starbursts, baby. Can’t harsh on the starbursts.
jl
@efgoldman:
” Where’d the formatting buttons go? ”
Well, I can see why that is what they are asking in a panic about Trump. Same text, but a dangerous lack of proper formatting.
Suzanne
@efgoldman: Oh, no. Republican men know that women menstruate. That’s how they explain away behavior that isn’t perfectly patient or charming or simpering—it has to be PMS. No women could simply find them irritating or stupid or obnoxious, or just be having a bad day.
I have always considered dudes who complain about women’s “hormones” or “time of the month” to be absolutely primeval and awful. I do not exist to flatter you or to make you feel comfortable and awesome all the time. I am an adult, in control of my emotions—only emotionally weak people flip out on others for no reason. If I am pissed at you, I guarantee that you’ve earned it.
David Koch
piratedan
Well it’s nice to know that even the hypocritical Erik son of Erik has standards, granted, I don’t care for much misogyny from any Presidential candidate but I will admit that someone like Kelly has earned it considering her statements about Fluke and Planned Parenthood and the general disdain and shamefest tactics that she’s shown to use in the past. So while Trump is certainly a cad and an asshat for his statements, it’s not as if Kelly hasn’t been working in the very same environment and agencies that promote and applaud that very behavior against the people that they disagree with.
It was transparent what Faux is/was attempting to do and Trump just essentially blew that shit right out of the water and he’s been an unrepentant bastard about it and you can tell who is a true believer (teahadis that are standing behind Trump) and who’s a fucking grifter (See, Erik, Son of and Kelly herself).
They all deserve each other and it will be grotesque to see how the RW media attempts to spin them selves past their own wingnut event horizon. I’m sure we’ll be getting lots of platitudes fluffing each other and their journalistic integrity while castigating Trump as a boor. Doesn’t matter that they’re correct (and they are) but everyone else is hard pressed to tell the difference between the horseshit that they’re peddling and the bullshit that The Donald is selling. Still smells like shit to me, nuance be damned.
SRW1
LOL, Erik bin Erik is getting trolled by Norman Ornstein?
David Koch
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@SRW1: Yes, but very moderately and reasonably.
Actually, I hugely respect Ornstein’s intellectual honesty. By nature, he’s a true centrist Republican and has all of the credentials that would make him a prime candidate for Both-Sides-Do-Itism, but he’s completely refused that bait. He calls the bullsht he sees, although he does it very moderately and reasonably.
David Koch
SRW1
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym:
Actually, I think the comical contrast is in being trolled by a moderate and reasonable scholar.
SRW1
@David Koch:
Yes, but Erik bin Erik is now moving off the dung heap and wants to be respectable.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@SRW1: Indeed. GOP, you’ve sunk so far that Norman Ornstein* deems you worthy of mockery.
*I wanted to write “Norman Fucking Ornstein” there, but just can’t; not moderate and reasonable.
jl
@SRW1: I think Ornstein is referring to that fact that the name Souter is a notable entry in the genteel Annals of EE. For EE is a gentleman who condemns all uncivil discourse from any quarter.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@SRW1: As respectable as one can be while screeching that you’ll assassinate anyone that doesn’t vote to defund Planned Parenthood.
SRW1
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym:
Patience. EE just got his sanding tools this week.
SRW1
@David Koch:
They had to photoshop Bernie just a little.
Calouste
The GOP doesn’t seem to have completely realized that Trump has them by the short and curlies and he is going to make them scream. If he runs third party, he can take 3-4% of their vote easily, which will turn the election into a foregone conclusion. If he runs and gets people on the ballot for some down ticket races, the GOP is going to lose the House.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@SRW1: It does give a whole new perspective to the contours of his policy program.
Anne Laurie
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym:
Oh, Erickson would never do that. He’d just call for some “lone wolf mentally ill” listener to commit assassination for him.
In the War on Women, as in all wars, Erick is strictly a keyboard commando.
Amir Khalid
@Calouste:
I have a campaign-song idea for Donald Trump.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@Anne Laurie: He’s all screech and no trigger.
NotMax
So he’ll be uninvited.
Big whoop.
Now, supposing he shows up anyway?
jl
@NotMax: Trump don’t show up for losers. And even Trump is right about some things, once in a while.
David Koch
Myiq2xu
The first thing that turned me off about Obama was his creepy crazed cult followers. The Stormtrumpers are giving me deja vu all over again.
jl
Actually, come to think of it, Trump is right about three things, and in these three ways is also dangerous in a GOP primary: politicians are bought by rich assholes like himself, and politicians should try to actually do some good for people even if they don’t like the policies they have to implement, and he is too open minded about policies that might work some time some where. I get the latter two from an interview I watched of him talking about the ACA.
He was criticizing one of the other GOPers for saying that they would expand Medicaid and then ‘walked away from it’, since that showed he wasn’t even trying. And saying stuff like “hey well all kinna systems might work. Single payers, yeah sure that might work someplace or sumpind waddafuck. Al sorta Yurpean systems seem a work OK. But, we don’t need that, you got me to make great fantastic deals with the hospitals for the poors in the US.
So, Trump is same BS as other GOPers on a host of issue, but departs from them in a few ways on substance that are also dangerous. I can see why they desperately want him out. I want him to have a nice long disruptive run in the primary.
Also nice to see scumbags like Jeb! and Christie bob around like bloated defunct possums in a slimy sump, slowly sinking out of site, Jeb!’s money might get him the nomination, but hard to see how he ends up less disliked than Romney.
jl
I’ll check back in for decent ******** when DougJ is doing his finger exercises for next summer.
NotMax
@Amir Khalid
Alternative suggestion.
@jl
Maybe so. On the other hand, he may recognize a prime opportunity for street theater and sa lot of camera time.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@Myiq2xu: Are you going to keep repeating this until we all finally decide to agree with you?
David Koch
David Koch
Frankensteinbeck
Partly political reporters protect their own, and in particular they protect political reporters who protect the fiction that Republicans are reasonable and mature. See the whole ‘sister’ network thing when Obama called out FOX.
But at least as big is the specific insult Trump chose. Dog whistles are important to the Republican Party. They hate, hate, hate being being labeled as the racists, misogynists, homophobes, and universal bigots that they are. The bar in our society for being recognized as misogynist with no deniability is much higher, but menstruation jokes have been labeled one of the very few undeniable slurs. Fat jokes and an obsession with looks and age are misogyny that Dog Whistle Republicans feel like they can deny. This is over that line.
EDIT – How this affects Trump’s polling will tell us a lot about how much the base wants to maintain that ‘I’m not a bigot, you’re the bigot’ feeling of righteousness, versus how much they are sick and tired of not being allowed to be honest about their disgusting feelings.
Major Major Major Major
Ooookay then. Manic phase still continuing.
Fuck.
I had sex with like four guys today ugh
Baud
@Major Major Major Major:
Today is only 3 hours old where you are.
sm*t cl*de
And if you don’t like them, no problem, he has other ones.
bystander
Let’s face it. Megyn put the “Gyn” in Megan, so she was asking for it.
I for one am completely laughing my butt off. Trump is like a guy with a suicide bomb vest in his own version of Groundhog Day. He keeps setting off the bombs and comes back the next day to do it all over again.
Hal
Republicans finally recognize misogyny and sexism…but only when it’s directed at Megyn Kelly. Say the same thing about Hillary Clinton and they wouldn’t have cared less.
bystander
Just saw that the Aurora shooter got life. I am shocked. I really thought they would hang him high. The sentencing process in Colorado seems cumbersome but I think it forces the jurors to think long and hard about their responsibilities.
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: fine, yesterday.
I’m not bragging.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major:
I hope you feel better today.
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: I can’t seem to stop making truly horrid decisions, but if anything approaches actually harming somebody then I’ll definitely recuse myself. :( this sucks
Elizabelle
@bystander: Overnight report said one juror was against the death penalty for James Holmes and stood firm.
Which was good by me. I was horrified they were going for the death penalty. Holmes is obviously mentally ill as well as criminally culpable. Thought it was wrong of prosecutors to pursue it.
I think the death penalty is going to be gone in the next decade or so, except maybe in Texas.
satby
@Major Major Major Major: you mentioned your new meds, is it something that maybe needs to be adjusted that could help? Maybe you should let your Dr know?
Hugs Major x4, we’re here when you need to talk.
bystander
@Elizabelle: My first impression from the newsreader was that there was more than one juror. But you’re right, there was apparently only one holdout. Should be only a matter of time before the whining and whingeing about how we all could have closure if only we could enjoy one more death.
Saw the grandparents of one of this guy’s victims. They obviously learned nothing from the people in Charleston. Hope they do for their own sakes. Pining for an execution is not the way to assuage the grief.
Mac
Simplest explanation. Our chubby little kingmaker fancies himself a queen.
debbie
@bystander:
I heard there was one firmly against the death penalty and two others on the fence. So, only nine definitely for it.
Hal
@bystander: I saw those grandparents. I can’t imagine what they are going through but they seemed to think the death penalty would have provided closure. The problem being it could be years or decades waiting. Now they know his fate and at they don’t have to wait any longer.
Comrade Dread
Excuse me if I find it rather difficult, nay… impossible, to believe that Donald Trump will pay any serious price with the GOP base for making misogynistic comments about any woman.
CarolDuhart2
It seems to me that the death penalty process would only prolong the suffering for these people. Endless referrals to the day combined with a countdown process-life without parole means that the killer gets forgotten quickly.
The whole drama of appeals-last minute reprieves-and the penalty itself seems to prolong the trial beyond endurance and fills the world with constant reminders of the crime itself. Even the execution itself that comes at the end is almost an afterthought.
CarolDuhart2
@Comrade Dread: That’s what happens when you’ve driven out the saner folks and now have only crazy people left. Crazy people only want crazy candidates. And Donald is crazy, so he’s their choice.
bystander
@Hal: Nor can I imagine their grief. The idea that killing another person gives “closure” is excusemaking for bloodthirsty revenge fantasies. We will never hear from the bereaved who know that putting this sicko to death will not change their grief one iota because they’re obviously irrational and selfish for wanting to deny the others their “closure”.
No one wakes up one day after losing someone they loved to violence and says, “Well, I sure don’t miss my (child, grandchild, son, mother) as much now that Killer Joe is dead. And I never wake up crying anymore.” It doesn’t work that way at all.
Matt McIrvin
By the way, I’ve been meaning to ask… where did this “cuck-” usage come from exactly? Short for “cuckold”, I assume, which would mean it’s some kind of PUA/MRA/neckbeard-misogynist thing? Do the people using it realize how stupid it makes them sound? Questions, questions…
Gin & Tonic
@Matt McIrvin: I think the conservatives made that one up all by themselves.
Heliopause
To recap our current discourse:
One candidate makes disgusting comments about women.
The others are falling all over themselves to defund Planned Parenthood.
One of these things is distasteful. The other tangibly hurts tens of millions of people and will lead to premature deaths. So guess which one is the outrage du jour?
Frankensteinbeck
@Matt McIrvin:
It is openly declared that ‘cuck’ is derived from ‘cuckold’. If (big if) I understand the article featured here on the subject, the idea is that traditional Republican candidates are gullible, wishy-washy untermenschen whose base are being stolen away by real conservatives who know what the base wants and have the passion and virility to deliver. (Hint: The base wants open racism.)
PaulW
Trump is an asshole for insulting women by what seems to be pure impulse.
Erickson is an asshole for insulting women by what seems to be political posturing. His hypocrisy dumping Trump just makes his misogyny just as shameful.
Neither of them are saints. Both of them deserve far worse than the blows they are inflicting on each other right now.
Cervantes
@Matt McIrvin:
Busy and cannot stop to discuss but some clues are below. You’ll wish you hadn’t asked.
The term likely arose at MPC. An introduction:
And you ask:
What do you think?
Cacti
I honestly don’t care what rhetorical bombs the high profile right wingers lob at each other.
Yes, Donald Trump is an ogre when it comes to women…
Which makes him different from other Republican candidates in what meaningful way, besides a willingness to be loud and proud about his misogyny?
Megyn Kelly is a paid femagogue water carrier for the caveman/patriarchy party. So, I’m fresh out of sympathy in this feud.
Cervantes
@bystander:
Er … what?
Tripod
Boo hoo. Trump is playing by the Propaganda Ministry’s rules and they don’t like it. Tough shit. Kelly was regurgitating whatever line of attack
Herman GobbelsRoger Ailes gave her. I’m surprised he hasn’t dressed her up in dom leather – fan service and all that.That whole operation is an affront to civil discourse and human decency.
Tripod
@Tripod:
File under – no fucks left to give.
Villago Delenda Est
@Cervantes: They have no idea how stupid it makes them sound. Because every last one of them are fucktards.
equs_1776
@Cervantes: They should let us in on how BECOMES White…?
Althea
Yes it was offensive and gross, but, considering Kelly actively participates in trying to set back the cause of women in general and is also an enabler to all others who do the same, meh. Is not Erickson of the same stripe?
hoodie
@Frankensteinbeck: From what I’ve read, it’s a term derived from a porn genre involving white men who like to watch their wives/girlfriends having sex with black guys. In this context,guess it’s about conservatives who don’t realize that they are in an existential fight with the brown menace, e.g., Mexican rapists.
agorabum
@jl: hey @johncole put this on the frontpage.
Jeff
Republicans deeply respect the Holy sanctity of Life, except for the whole icky menstruation part.
AxelFoley
@Myiq2xu: Troll elsewhere, assmunch.
Sharon
@SRW1: that was just the best!
Mobile Grumpy Code Monkey
@efgoldman: Y’know, it’s okay for EE to call Trump an asshole when Trump is, in fact, being an asshole, no further complex motivation required. Even if EE is a massive asshole himself.
Not a fan of Kelly, her awesome “Republican math” shot at Rove notwithstanding, and I know she doesn’t need EE to defend her honor (I picture rolling her eyes and making jackoff motions at the thought), but Trump’s comments about her are offensive, and for my personal entertainment I need him to not alienate this many people this quickly. He has to last long enough to win enough delegates to force a ballot at the convention.