Open Thread: Speaking of Wingnuts with ‘Manliness’ Issues…

I’m glad my preferred Speaker-to-RWingers got around to an explainer on this sensitive topic, because I did not want to link to primary sources. Dave Weigel, in the Washington Post, on “‘Cuckservative’ — the conservative insult of the month“:

Late last week, a neologism was born. Twitter was the incubator. “Cuckservative,” a portmanteau of “conservative” and “cuckold” (i.e. a man whose wife has cheated on him) burned up Twitter as fans of Donald Trump’s politicking warred with the movement conservatives who opposed it.

RedState.com’s Erick Erickson, the Daily Caller’s Matt Lewis, and the team at the well-read conservative blog Ace of Spades were among the critics suddenly deluged with accusations of cuckservatism…

I’ll defer to Richard Spencer, president of the white nationalist National Policy Institute.

“#Cuckservative” is a full-scale revolt, by Identitarians and what I’ve called the ‘alt Right,’ against the Republican Party and conservative movement,” Spencer explained in an e-mail. “The ‘cuck’ slur is vulgar, yes, but then piercingly accurate. It is the cuckold who, whether knowingly or unknowingly, loses control of his future. This is an apt psychological portrait of white ‘conservatives,’ whose only identity is comprised of vague, abstract ‘values,’ and who are participating in the displacement of European Americans — their own children…

According to Spencer, “Trump is a major part of the ‘cuckservative’ phenomenon — but not because he himself is an Identitarian or traditionalist. His campaign is, in many ways, a backward-looking movement: ‘Let’s make America great again!’ Why Trump is attractive to Identitarians and the alt Right is: a) he is a tougher, superior man than ‘conservatives’ (which isn’t saying much), and b) he seems to grasp the demographic displacement of European-Americans on a visceral level. We see some hope there.”…

“Just look at them!” said Spencer. “Glenn Beck, Erik [sic] Erickson, Mike Huckabee. They’re mediocrities, or sub-mediocrities. They’re grinning, obese doofuses. No person with a deep soul — no person who wants to take part in a moment that’s idealistic, that’s going to change the world — would want to be a part of ‘conservatism.’ In a way, the current ‘cucks’ are the residue of the Bush era. They were the ‘conservative’ and ‘Religious Right’ allies of the neoconservatives. They’re still around, for no apparent reason.”…

Well, it’s always a fun time when Democracy’s enemies start turning on each other… Any odds on this neologism turning up during the Fox debates next week? And if so: “Serious contenders” debate, or the no-hoper “kiddy table” intro?
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Apart from a refreshing chug of brain bleach, what’s on the agenda for the evening?






131 replies
  1. 1

    So, if I understand this correctly, they look down on conservatives who won’t come out and say that the entire movement is based on racism.

    EDIT – And ‘cuckservative’ is… the name these true conservatives have coined for traditional Republicans who want to pretend it’s about something other than race…? I think?

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    Tree With Water says:

    “..Like Chuck D of Public Enemy, I knew Elvis was a hero to some (if not, as he asserted, most), but he had never meant shit to me, and here I was, a northern negro in the Deep South in a town I knew nothing about other than that it had been developed as a site for cotton plantations, pissing on and entering the home of a man who purportedly brandished guns frequently, some of which he believed had once belonged to Elvis Presley. I was 29 years old, just a year older than Dwight David Taylor*..”.

    That’s as far as I’ve read in an interesting post at the Manchester Guardian:

    cohttp://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/29/death-at-the-elvis-presley-museum#img-1

    I often find the Guardian’s pieces about the USA more interesting/insightful than the Gray Lady’s.

    *Taylor was made dead at the hands of the owner of the house

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    Chris says:

    That’s what that means?

    I thought they were trying to be insulting and just couldn’t spell “cock.”

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    Yatsuno says:

    Blood test day! But only 2 vials. So I guess I’m getting off lucky. Record is 12 vials.

    In a way, the current ‘cucks’ are the residue of the Bush era.

    Sorry. You’re not gonna get the stink of ¡JEB! off that easily.

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    Germy Shoemangler says:

    Mathematician says Kansas voting machines need to be audited: A Wichita State University mathematician said she has seen enough odd patterns in Kansas election results that she thinks it’s time to check the accuracy of some voting machines. Election officials are making it as difficult as possible for her to get the data she needs.
    http://www.kmbc.com/news/mathe.....d/34271670

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    confederate flag FB group leaves admin permissions open, with hilarious results. https://storify.com/champioz/commandeering-a-confederate-pride-group

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    F says:

    The fuck did I just read?

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    A guy says:

    The thing y’all don’t like is that trump is rich. Admit your envy. And the fact that he’s turned the political elite upside down with comments that are starting to resonate scares you. I see and sense it. It’s just a matter of time until all the blog jobs are taken by illegals. But even then you still won’t see what’s happening to you.

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    Yatsuno says:

    @A guy: …
    Anyone else calling DougJ here?

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    Davis X. Machina says:

    @Germy Shoemangler: Delivering insane, instead of merely decisive, majorities to the GOP, no doubt….

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    A guy says:

    Admit it yatsuno. You are jealous of the guy. He has achieved where others have not

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    Germy Shoemangler says:

    @A guy:

    It’s just a matter of time until all the blog jobs are taken by illegals.

    Wait… you mean the front pagers get paid to post pup pics and garden updates??

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    Davis X. Machina says:

    @A guy:I don’t think so. For all but a handful of practitioners, blogging doesn’t pay nearly as well as picking vegetables, or working as a chain-motel chambermaid.

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    Tommy says:

    @ranchandsyrup: I have mentioned here my father’s PhD is in Civil War military history. When most kids went to Disney World I went to Civil War battle fields. Ken Burns says it well in the intro to his documentary on the Civil War.

    We killed each other wholesale.

    When I see the Confederate battle flag I just want to puke. Or strike out and yell at the top of my lungs.

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    Yatsuno says:

    @A guy: You’re right. I don’t have four business bankruptcies on my record. Including a ca$ino. WHO THE HELL LOSES MONEY ON A CA$INO???

    EDIT: I know, I know. DNFTT.

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    lamh36 says:

    I’ve seen a few media using what looks like a mugshot photo of #SamDubose and showing the officer in his uniform photo. ..when discussing Cincy

    Another example of media bullshit!

    RT @gq409: Another case of the media using something as simple as photographs to shape public opinion. #SamDubose http://t.co/MMvloQDDkK

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    A guy says:

    Lol at yatsuno bankruptcy comment. If you’ve not lost money in a deal you’ve never got into a deal. Ive lost money in venture capital . And least he took the risk? You? And he recovered! You?

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    JPL says:

    @F: I googled for additional information and it appears that the Identitarian movement started in Europe.

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    Tommy says:

    @Yatsuno: I once heard somebody say if you own a ca$ino and you lose money you are doing something wrong.

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    jl says:

    @Yatsuno: i assume all trolls are DougJ. But usually DougJ puts in a little work. Maybe all the recent academic admin work has DougJ on the bottle, and this is the best he can do?

    If it is DougJ trolling, we need to do a welfare check.

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    Brachiator says:

    I need a break from the societal craziness. I have to catch up with some videos. Tonight, episode 5 of the TV show Humans, finish watching the kung fu movie Ip Man, and a couple of history podcasts, maybe.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Yatsuno: Yaknow, “It’s just a matter of time until all the blog jobs are taken by illegals” really gives off an aroma.

    Maybe it’s just like with Renaissance art, if they can’t positively attribute something, they’ll say “in the manner of Titian” or something similar.

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    JPL says:

    @lamh36: Since I don’t have cable, I listened to the local news stations. When the video is slowed down, it is obvious that Dubose was murdered. One station had comments from attorneys who agreed.
    Body cams serve a purpose.

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    Trentrunner says:

    Been wondering where the infuriatingly centrist prevaricating pandering vintage 2007-8 Hillary Clinton has been?

    Well, have a look.

    You know, if Democratic women aren’t going to make a full-throated defense of Planned Parenthood, it makes it hard for the rest of us to give a flying fuck. Very dispiriting.

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    A guy says:

    Really, that you folks infer you can’t lose money on a casino confirms your business naivete

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    jl says:

    @JPL: I read the Wiegel piece and I still can’t figure out what it is about. But, it could be obscure European nonsense as filtered through uniquely USian BS.

    I agree with @Frankensteinbeck that it seems like it wants to besome racist dog whistle, but, does a meme mean anything if it falls through the internet, and no one can figure it out?

    This is only slightly mysterious to me than the Confederate (battle) flag (of Lee’s Army of NV) planking, but only because I have a general sense of the type of person behind it. It took me quite a while ti figure out whether the plankers were agin’ the flag for fer it, or were expressing regret over it, or ironic non-shame, or what.

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    In The Manner of DougJ says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    It’s just a matter of time until all the blog jobs are taken by illegals

    Then again, has anyone actually seen John Cole’s long form birth certificate? And checked the kerning?

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    Tommy says:

    @Trentrunner: I am a dude. Not married. Of all the places I will take a stand because Planned Parenthood might be close to the top of the list of things I care about. It is about the health of a lady. I am kind of behind ladies getting reproductive health care.

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    shell says:

    to resonate scares you.

    (Snort) Oh, yeah. Im soooooo scared.

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    trollhattan says:

    @A guy:
    Several of those “word things” don’t mean what you believe them to.

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    Bokonon says:

    So … in other words, these guys are going all Rush Limbaugh on each other?

    That’s fine. It is sort of like watching a bunch of cannibals get into a feeding frenzy, and start devouring each other.

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    dmsilev says:

    @Yatsuno: See, your problem is that you don’t possess the Keen Business Acumen that let Donald Trump decide to be the son of a wealthy real estate developer.

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    NotMax says:

    Kookservative is more apt for the whole lot.

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    dmsilev says:

    @Bokonon: I was thinking more along the lines of the early history of the Soviet Union. We’re just witnessing the schism between the Stalinist and Trotskyist factions of the Party.

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    Yatsuno says:

    @dmsilev: So my problem is I didn’t win the genetic lottery? How do I go about fixing that now?

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    Mike in NC says:

    Is “suckservative” also a word we can use?

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    jl says:

    @Bokonon:

    ” So … in other words, these guys are going all Rush Limbaugh on each other? ”

    Yeah, I don’t understand what the actions items are supposed to be. for the accused #cuckservatives. Have more white kids? Swear and smash stuff more to assert their dominance? Suck Trump’s cuck? Or let Trump cuckold them to undo all the previous cuckolding.

    What they need is a handy-dandy bullet point ‘explainer’. And does it have anything to do with certain groups’ purported p**n size? or not? They really need to clear that up or people will start to think they have reason to be insecure about.. well… you know… May main take away is that they must have some ‘size’ worries.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @A guy: It’s not wealth. It’s the assholishness.

    Dumbfucks like you always get that wrong.

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    Archon says:

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    I always thought movement conservatism’s last phase before it’s inevitable implosion would basically be a full throated appeal to white nationalism and tribalism, without the dog whistles and the faux, limited government ideology. We are starting to see signs of that in the “cuckservative” meme and in Donald Trump’s appeal.

    The only scary part is I don’t think this phase will end without a lot political violence and white domestic terrorism.

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    dmsilev says:

    @Yatsuno: Time machine. First you go back in time and kill your grandfather, and then you somehow pick a different one.

    Bonus points if you manage to become your own grandfather.

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    A guy says:

    Yatsuno- that you didn’t win the genetic lottery is not an excuse, get over it and win. Get in the game and risk something. Even if you lose money like trump the thrill of participation is worth it

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    Citizen_X says:

    @ranchandsyrup: Oh mah gawd, that’s wonderful!

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    Doesn’t trump have less money than he inherited or something?

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    Mike E says:

    The GOP has gone fully autoerotic… they don’t need anyone else in the room. Yay.

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    Bokonon says:

    @jl: That’s the Limbaugh thing – it is about the insult first, and tribal identification second, and the justification later. Sometimes it doesn’t even have to make sense. It is just a vicious power play, and you want to be on the right side of it (instead of being the joke and the loser). No thought required.

    The furious reaction of those conservatives who got targeted shows that they know the tactic, and they don’t like being on the receiving end of it.

    NOT US, they are shrieking. HOW DARE YOU!

    The only problem is that they will all go out now and break more stuff in order to establish who is the most reckless, brutal, committed and ruthless conservative of them all. And get out from under the cloud of being a “cuck”. It has happened before. It used to be that conservatives would try to outrun being a “squish” by signing on to extreme and unyeilding positions.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @A guy: Trump had the advantage of falling out of the right uterus. So did Rmoney. The Bushes. The Kochs.

    That makes a huge difference. If you don’t acknowledge that, you’re part of the problem, not part of the solution, and you need to be disposed of accordingly.

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    mdblanche says:

    @F: The George Lincoln Rockwell wing of conservatism is just about fed up with the George Wallace wing’s timid half-measures.

    @dmsilev: “Citizens, we have reason to fear that the Revolution, like Saturn, will successively devour all its children, and finally produce despotism, with the calamities that accompany it.”

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    dmsilev says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Not quite. The calculation was that if Trump took his father’s net worth and stuck it in an S&P 500 index fund, the current value would be larger than his self-reported net worth.

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    mtiffany says:

    @A guy:

    Ive lost money in venture capital .

    Did you back a business that taught punctuation?

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Major Major Major Major: No. He has parlayed his Dad’s fortune probably 10x. Thing is, his Dad built housing for normal people, and wasn’t an asshole.

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    bemused says:

    Speaking of manliness issues, MN Dem Rep Betsy McCollum has called for a federal investigation of manly lion slayer Palmer. She believes strongly the US Attorney’s Office and US Fish and Wildlife Service should investigate whether US laws were violated related to conspiracy, bribery of foreign officials and the illegal hunting of a protected species or animal.

    She would actively pursue a legislative path to protecting other endangered animals in Africa and elsewhere. She is currently working on legislation to crack down on poaching of animals for ivory.

    Sounds good to me. Stop these wealthy, entitled “sportsmen” from executing endangered animals and utterly shaming the US.

  52. 52
    MomSense says:

    OH MY DOG. Some insanity crashed into my world today (an SPLC identified hate group) and it is truly terrifying. I can’t really talk about it but I’m processing and deciding what to do.

  53. 53
    raven says:

    The work on the kitchen is going full blast. Since we lost two big windows we decided to take a wall out.

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    @jl:
    Well, ‘European American’ means ‘white power.’ It’s not even a dog whistle, it’s just a new phrasing designed by their butthurt at not being special flowers. So…

    he seems to grasp the demographic displacement of European-Americans on a visceral level.

    …seems to mean that what they want is straight out, no dog-whistling, no wishy-washy cutting away at the edges with attacking the safety net race war dialog. ‘Alt Republicans’ think that any conservative who is not openly declaring that blacks and Mexicans rape white women, and so on, and so on, is betraying the white race. They’ve had enough with the polite mask, and demand it be removed.

    @Archon:
    My only relief there is that it will only be scattered, individual acts, like we’re seeing now. I was always worried we’d get that with a black president. There will be no organized, widespread violence, because their movement is backboned by chickenhawk cowards and old people.

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    Pie Happens (opiejeanne) says:

    @MomSense: Stay safe.

    Tell us about it at some point, if you can.

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    A guy says:

    Mtiffany- richest man I know is an absolute peach of a man who never graduated high school. Worth hundreds of millions. He speaks worse than I and I’m sure he can’t spell all the big words you love. What have you done to create jobs and opportunity?

  57. 57
    MomSense says:

    @Pie Happens (opiejeanne):

    There is some crazy stuff going on in Maine right now. They feel emboldened. Ugh.

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    jl says:

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    ” demographic displacement of European-Americans ”

    But too many syllables, too oblique and polite, and the more you read the more confusing it gets.
    Something is working at cross purposes at the cuckservatorian compound, semiotic-wise..

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    Pie Happens (opiejeanne) says:

    @MomSense: Ugh, indeed.

    Like I said, stay safe.

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    jl says:

    Glad we are off the Trump, that was a loser,huh?

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    Yatsuno says:

    @MomSense: I hope you’re not getting caught up in the white supremacists supporting LePage mishegas. Either way let us know if we can help at all.

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    sacrablue says:

    @Yatsuno: I gave my 2 vials yesterday. It is usually 4. I think they screwed up and I’ll have to give them more on Friday.

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    @MomSense: I hope it’s nothing threatening your safety, and that it gets slapped down quickly.

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    Chyron HR says:

    @A guy:

    me no talk good but dat make me betar than u

    But of course if a black person isn’t 100% erudite it’s just (further) evidence that he needs to be summarily executed.

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    Mike E says:

    @dmsilev: And you are outa here! Heh.

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    MomSense says:

    @Pie Happens (opiejeanne):

    Thank you.

    @Yatsuno:

    It happened at work. Not sure what I can do about it yet, if anything. Things are crazy here because of the Maine Supreme Court case and our governor’s encouraging this “element”.

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    gogol's wife says:

    @MomSense:

    I hope it works out.

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    JPL says:

    @MomSense: Take care of yourself.

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    Mike E says:

    A guy walks into a room carrying a chicken…

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    RSA says:

    @Yatsuno:

    Anyone else calling DougJ here?

    But DougJ never sounds dumb, does he? Misguided and naive, maybe, but not plain dumb.

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    Iowa Old Lady says:

    @MomSense: Processing is good. Hope nothing too terrible is happening.

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    mtiffany says:

    @A guy:

    richest man I know is an absolute peach of a man who never graduated high school. Worth hundreds of millions. He speaks worse than I and I’m sure he can’t spell all the big words you love. What have you done to create jobs and opportunity?

    Like you, I befriend rich people and sing their praises. How’s that for creating jobs and opportunities? That, and I occasionally give a homeless guy a couple hundred bucks so I can beat him up. I have a friend record it on their phone so I can show all my friends how tough I am, and that my cock is really, really yooooge. And it’s totally fair too, I’m not taking advantage of a person, I’m just taking advantage of the opportunities my money affords me so that I can rig the outcome in my favor. Some say predation, I say competition. Potato, potato, amirite? Would you and your wealthy hundred-millionaire friend care to join me some time? It seems like something you’d really enjoy.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Tommy: Evening. I am just a few miles from Cold Harbor. Bucolic, but cannot forget the slaughter that occurred just a few miles away. Maybe an hour, if that, on horseback.

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    @jl:
    No, I’ve read some of their literature. Racist leaders tend to want to sound intelligent, educated, and reasonable. They believe they’re the members of the intelligent, civilized race, after all. A white power treatise is less ‘let’s string up them niggers’ and more ‘we are facing a crossroads where the European race must retake control of the system, or our civilization will be dragged down by the black race’s inability to act responsibly above the level of animals.’ This is about right. They just don’t want to hear stuff about welfare queens. They want straight-out ‘Mexicans are coming over the border to rape and murder’. Anything less is empowering minorities. They know anything less empowers minorities, because despite all the dog whistled racist cruelty of the last four decades, things have continued to slide so far that a black man has been elected president.

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    Hungry Joe says:

    I’m taking a certain amount of comfort in the almost universal outrage over Cecil the Lion. Such a reaction would have been unimaginable 100 years ago, when big-game hunting was a common rich man’s avocation. No one thought anything of it. Heads of dead animals on the wall, their hides on the floor? Well done, old boy. And 100, 200 years before that, torture of cats, bear baiting, dogfights, etc., were no-big-deal public entertainment. Try such things today and you’ll go to prison … if a crowd doesn’t tear you to pieces first. I call that progress.

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    MomSense says:

    Thanks , everyone. The bottom line is these people are bullies and other professionals have disengaged because of intimidation so I have to decide whether I can help them in these circumstances. I want to help but it is not without risk.

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    A guy says:

    Mtiffany- what jobs have you created?

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    TerryC says:

    @A guy: Anyone who is worth “hundred of millions” should give most of that back to the people he or his parents stole from them.

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    srv says:

    Just like Joe the Plumber predicted, it’s never enough:

    Lawmakers will likely have at least until the end of October to raise the nation’s borrowing limit, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said in a letter to Congress on Wednesday.

    Lew told lawmakers that while he cannot pinpoint when the nation would be in danger of missing debt payments without a borrowing boost, he was confident he would be able to avoid default until at least late October.

    “We believe that the measures will not be exhausted before late October, and it is likely that they will last for at least a brief additional period of time,” he wrote.

    I fear Obama is setting up a Republican President to fail.

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    gelfling545 says:

    @ranchandsyrup: I just laughed myself into hiccups reading that.

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    gelfling545 says:

    @Yatsuno: Blog jobs? No doubt the pay is attractive. That’s overspicing the stew a bit. Must be a prank.

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    shell says:

    @gelfling545: Joe the (non) Plumber. yup, thats who I want to listen to for advice.

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    GregB says:

    They can’t spell clownservative?

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    C.V. Danes says:

    @Chris: My thoughts exactly.

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    @A guy:
    Well, I know for me, I’ve created editor and marketing jobs directly, and certainly been an active part of the pool that creates a number of retail goods jobs. Rich people don’t create jobs. The idea is silly. Customers create jobs. Rich people are only middlemen making the process go more quickly and smoothly while taking a very large cut of the money involved. Do you think companies exist because the rich person is like ‘Hey, I want to give my money away?’ It’s because customers will pay for whatever the workers produce. Customers pay the workers’ salary. I don’t mind that some people are rich. I think some have even earned it. But to describe them as ‘job creators’ is putting the cart before the horse, economically. You might as well call an accountant a tax creator.

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    @jl:

    Yeah, I don’t understand what the actions items are supposed to be. for the accused #cuckservatives.

    They’re supposed to stop taking it so easy on Obama. You know, the way that Mitch McConnell and John Boehner have constantly caved to his every demand rather than really sticking it to him. Calling them cuckservatives is basically a racist insult claiming that they’re letting Obama have his negro way with their women while they watch.

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    MomSense says:

    @A guy:

    You are an asshole.

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    lamh36 says:

    Welp, they send my lil sister back home. She’s determined to get up and get walking so she can “get that baby out of her”…lol.

    I told her, I’d appreciate it if she could go ahead and have baby Zoe by Friday. ‘m off that day and I need to know if I will need to drive to BR or if me and my cousin can go see Mission Impossible! Kay, thx, bye

    http://media.giphy.com/media/h...../giphy.gif

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    A guy says:

    Franken- I didn’t ask you about the jobs you have created but thanks anyway. I will ask you though if you have ever mortgaged your house to create a business and jobs

    Momsense- I hope you tell your kids that if you don’t have anything nice to say then don’t say anything at all. A real mom would do that. My wife of 26 years does.

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    Poopyman says:

    @dmsilev:

    We’re just witnessing the schism between the Stalinist and Trotskyist factions of the Party.

    Dibs on the ice pick concession!

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    JPL says:

    @ranchandsyrup: That was great!

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    WereBear says:

    @MomSense: That must be scary. I hope you have a lot of resources to muster.

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    tybee says:

    @A guy:

    what jobs have you created that you can prove you created?

    yeah, just what we all thought.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @mdblanche:

    And then there were seventeen.

    That makes nine (9) current and former governors, five (5) current and former senators, and three (3) from the private sector. (FWIW, that’s the only way I can keep track of their ever-increasing numbers.)

    ETA: I should explain, someone asked me the other day if I could name all the Republican candidates. I kept missing people until I subdivided by job.

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    @A guy:
    Moving the goalposts, then? Hardly any rich people have done what you describe. That they don’t have to is a very big reason why it’s so much easier to stay rich than get rich. I could describe at length what I have done, but I think it’s important not to stray from that fact. Your question is irrelevant, and has almost nothing to do with the ‘job creator’ mythos or the economy.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @srv:

    I fear Obama is setting up a Republican President to fail.

    Trollin’, trollin’, trollin’…

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    mtiffany says:

    @A guy:

    Mtiffany- what jobs have you created?

    Aside from the homeless guy? Well, I am the number one employer of people in the electrical generation field, because my computer is the most biggest and the most fastestest and it has all the microchips in it. All the microchips. So it needs all the power. All the other people in US America do not help contribute to the continued employment of people in the field of generating consumer electricity. It is only the me.

    Also, I weigh 90 megagigatonnes (Imperial measurement, because metric is European homofaggotry) because I eat all the foods. No one else in US America eats the foods, because US America had an obesity problem, so I decided to single-handedly solve the obesity problem by eating all the foods, (tasty yum) so I am the sole employer of the peoples (who do not eat or use electricity) who produce foods — by hand, through manual labor, because all the electrics is mine.

    Because I am so big, because I eat all the foods, but not fat, I am muscular, with the biggest penis of all the penises of the world, I require all the spandex in the world. Because big muscular job creators who eat all the foods and use all the electrics who also happen to have the biggest penises in the world must also show off their amazing job creator physiques with their classy, uber chic clothings. So I have all the spandex in the world. For my classy clothing. So I employ all the people who work in all the spandex factories in the world.

    Also, because I am so classy, my house — which is so huge that the bathrooms are mansions in and of themselves — is also classy. It has all the marble and golds. Because only marble and golds are classy. So I employ all the people working in marble quarries and gold mines. Plus the people working in gold refineries and the artisans that sculpt the marble for my house into classy columns and tiles.

    I would go further, but I must eat all the foods now, and use all the electrics, while wearing all the spandex in my classy house, which uses all the marble and the golds, because I have taste and am classy, so that everyone else can continue working and be grateful for their jobs, and give all their glory unto me, because there is no such thing as ‘consumer demand’ which represents the collective consumption of all goods and services by all the people consuming them — there is only me, the sole job creator, with my big, huge penis.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @gelfling545:

    Blog jobs?

    I’m not going to tell you how I first read that.

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    MomSense says:

    @A guy:

    Yatsuno is universally liked and respected here. He does not deserve to be judged and insulted by anyone let alone someone who seemingly insult posts here.

    My kids are spectacular. They are happy, healthy, productive, and respected. They certainly do not bully and and treat others poorly.

    if you want to comment on issues, fine. If you insult valued members of the community, don’t be surprised if we don’t tolerate your bad behavior.

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    Pie Happens (opiejeanne) says:

    @A guy: At the very least, he buys clothing and food, pays rent or a mortgage, pays for utilities, etc. That sort of activity is the primary creator of jobs.

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    gelfling545 says:

    @TerryC:

    Behind every great fortune lies a great crime.

    Honore de Balzac

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    @Poopyman:

    Dibs on the ice pick concession!

    ITYM ice axe.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Me three, or four.

    @A guy: I will ask you though if you have ever mortgaged your house to create a business and jobs

    You’re not using the Discover Card story anymore?

    I liked Jimmy Kimmel’s line about the canned hunt dentist: “You seriously need to kill a noble animal to get an erection?”

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    bemused says:

    @mdblanche:

    How many are debating, trying out crazy each other next week? Anyone planning to watch? I’m torn. It’s sure to be insane which could either kill me laughing or banging my head on the wall. It’s almost inconceivable that this Republican lineup is for real. I keep thinking of the movie Idiocracy but that was only a movie, not a live documentary.

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    Iowa Old Lady says:

    @bemused: I like to read live blogs of the debates rather than watch or listen to the debate directly. The snark is instantaneous.

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    mai naem mobile says:

    I have to admit I didn’t quite understand what cuckservative meant when I saw it on Twitter. I wasn’t sure if it was a left dissing wingnuts or teabaggers dissing establishment Repubs. It just looks and sounds obscene. C0ck, Koch or the other c-word.

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    dmsilev says:

    @bemused: There will be ten clowns in the center ring (the prime-time debate) and all remaining clowns will be relegated to the side show/freakshow.

    Might watch; haven’t decided yet. Probably will depend on just how masochistic I feel next Thursday.

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    PaulW says:

    I’m shilling more campaign bumper stickers http://noticeatrend.blogspot.c.....-fast.html

    and my drinking game for the August 6th debate is gathering more readers somehow. I may need to update it.

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    mainmata says:

    @Tree With Water: I’m a big fan of the Guardian and their crackerjack US Bureau. The Guardian stopped being “Manchester” of old labor fame a long time ago and has been the major national “liberal” (in the US sense of that term) paper of Britain for a long tme.

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    mainmata says:

    @dmsilev: I may watch to live Twittercomment if it looks other than boring conservamessaging, which I think it my be because everyone is expecting a sh*tshow. They’re all losers in a previously unknown and bizarre “Lost” episode.

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    FortGeek says:

    @A guy: It’s not that he’s rich. It’s that he is CLASSY. Very classy.

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    nastybrutishntall says:

    @A guy: I’m guessing the only jobs you’ve created are the blowing kind, on your rich daddy pally-wally.

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    mtiffany says:

    @mainmata:

    They’re all losers in a previously unknown and bizarre “Lost” episode.

    Holy shit! Lost, but with the cast composed of all the people running to be the Republican nominee. How could you not watch? You should pitch that to Hollywood. That would be amazeballs.

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    jake the antisoshul shoshulist says:

    @Yatsuno:
    Not DougJ. Even as a troll he writes better than that.

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    White Trash Liberal says:

    @mtiffany:

    Brava

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    mtiffany says:

    @White Trash Liberal: Thank you. And my big, huge penis thanks you too.

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    Calouste says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: I prefer to divide that as 3 candidates who have never held an elected position, 4 candidates who last held a position at least 8 years ago, and 10 candidates with current or somewhat recent experience.

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    jake the antisoshul shoshulist says:

    @gelfling545:

    As much as I hate to disagree with Balzac, I am of the opinion that it is usually a long series of small crimes.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @Yatsuno: And let’s not forget that his father gave him massive amounts of money. He didn’t start with nothing, starting with 420 Million is very different.

    ETA: He’s always been an attention hog, his ID is yooouge.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @Gin & Tonic: His father also operated the apartment complexes he built. The Donald builds the buildings, sells the units as condominiums and then has his company hired as management.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @PurpleGirl: My proofreading bad… $20 million. sorry.

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    lol chikinburd says:

    @Mike in NC: A Google search on “insecurevative” comes up with no hits (except for a differently-spelled string used apparently once in a completely disparate context). Twitter search for it comes up empty. I don’t get it; you’d think it would be the obvious coinage.

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    Chris says:

    @MomSense:

    You are an asshole.

    This is really all that needs to be said.

    @gelfling545:

    As I say every time that quote comes up – given all the life-saving, life-improving uses that the money could be put to where they would do infinitely more good than sitting in a rich man’s Cayman Islands account, the great fortune is the great crime.

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    Plantsmantx says:

    One of the funny things about all this is that by the “anti-cuckservatives'” definition, Trump himself is a “cuckservative”.

    Are black conservatives “cuckservatives” by definition?

    It exposes the anxious masculinity in terms of race (meaning black men) on the part of the people who are being accused of being “cuckservative” and that of the people who are doing the accusing.

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    Plantsmantx says:

    Robert Stacy McCain
    ‏@rsmccain
    Attention, my “New Right” friends: Consider the possibility that this #cuckservative thing is the work of agents provocateurs in your midst.

    Plantsmantx ‏@Plantsmantx 3h3 hours ago
    @rsmccain AmRen and Vdare?

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    Original Lee says:

    @Germy Shoemangler: Somewhat longer interviewhere. She was initially only looking at Republican primaries, so I find it fascinating that she’s getting so much resistance.

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    Original Lee says:

    @Yatsuno: Not to mention destroying antiquities at a hotel construction site in Cancun.

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    colby says:

    The thing y’all don’t like is that trump is rich. Admit your envy.

    Sure, I admit it, I wish I had Donald Trump’s money.

    He’s still going to lose.

    Because you need to understand this: wanting Trump’s money is not the same thing as liking him or respecting him. And all of this talk about Trump (or Romney, three years ago, or Forbes, way back in the day) “is rich, so he MUST be a JOB CREATOR, so he must be superior to JOB NON-CREATORS”, besides being a logic bog, misses one pretty key part of the electorate:

    Most of them aren’t job creators, either. Most of them don’t want to be job creators, they just want to have a job, work it honestly, and have fun with their family and friends. And insulting them, like you’re doing, like Trump has done, like Romney did in ’12…I mean, c’mon, you already know this, insulting the voters is bad strategy. You must know this. Voters could give a sh*t that Trump “took a risk”, or that his three bankruptcies (or however many they are, we all care so little I don’t even know) were perfectly explicable.

    Now me, I’m a little ambitious, I want to do a little bit *more* than just work a job and have fun. But I understand that most people aren’t that way, because I am not a sociopath.

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    Howlin Wolfe says:

    @A guy: How does the Donald’s butthole taste? You’ve obviously had your tongue up there.

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    Howlin Wolfe says:

    @NotMax: Kochservative is a different animal, maybe.

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