Sorry, folks, lost track of time. England is beating Colombia 1-0 and France is beating Mexico 3-0. If the scores hold up, things will be interesting.
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OnkelFritze
How so? France is going to be first, England second and Colombia qualifies as third. Sweden will have to hope for the last group later today, but the way they played so far and especially yesterday, they might as well go home, no loss.
raven
@OnkelFritze: That’s interesting.
Mike J
So Colombia will still go through, but as a top four 3rd placer rather than winning group F. Netherlands(4), Switzerland(3,+7), and Sweden (3, +0) will be the other three 3rds.
OnkelFritze
@raven: Mildly, at best ;)
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SRW1
Given that the Colombian player appeared to support herself with that arm, it’s bit difficult to see how she could have gotten it out of the way.
OnkelFritze
@Mike J: That’s likely, but after that stinker yersterday I’m still rooting for Sweden to get eliminated. Go Costa Rica!
SRW1
@Mike J:
There’s still a group to play today. Given that there are two teams in that group on one point each and Costa Rica on two points plays Brazil, the second third-placed team to go home is likely to come from that group.
Randinho
Will Lady Andrade get another chance to sucker punch Abby Wambach again?
SRW1
@Randinho:
What are you refering to? Was there an occassion when the two exchanged punches?
Randinho
2012 Olympics. Using my Ipad so I can’t put in a hyperlink, but here’s the video: http://youtu.be/TCMyvd12i3o
And for the record it was completely one-sided as most sucker punches are.
SRW1
@Randinho:
Nasty. It wasn’t so clear in the clip you linked to, but this one does show it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxJukT0ggIM
trollhattan
@Randinho: @SRW1:
Nasty business. “Lady” in the most ironic form. Did she have any consequences, or is that something that has to be seen by the refs?
Randinho
@trollhattan: iThe ref missed it completely, but FIFA gave her a two-game ban.
OnkelFritze
@Randinho: Well, she punched an American. Nowadays, FIFA wouldn’t ban her at all for that.
SRW1
@trollhattan:
The funny thing is that anything a ref states as having seen during a game is a decision of fact that can not retrospectively be sanctioned by disciplinary committee, whereas stuff a ref states as not having seen can be.
trollhattan
@Randinho:
Got it. Thanks!
I guess that would make a rematch kind of fun, in a there’s-a-backstory-here way. Confess I’m mostly interested in an opponent that inspires the Yanks to really bust open their offense. They still seem really tight to me, although yesterday was an improvement.
Randinho
@SRW1: Like the nonexistent foul that disallowed the third goal for the US in the 2010 WC against Slovenia.
Randinho
@OnkelFritze: Only if she punches Loretta Lynch.
OnkelFritze
@Randinho: She’d get the trophy for best player for that.
SRW1
@Randinho:
Bundesliga 2013, Hoffenheim – Leverkusen. Leverkusen scores a phantom goal in which the ball enters through the defective side netting. The ref doesn’t realize that and gives the goal. The decision stands even though replays clearly document what happened.
Roger Moore
@SRW1:
That doesn’t seem that strange. The ref only has two eyes, so it’s unreasonable to expect one to see everything that happens on the field. It makes sense to accept that they actually have seen what they said they saw, but it makes no sense at all to pretend they saw everything there was to see.
OnkelFritze
Except if the ref takes an objectively wrong decision.
SRW1
@Roger Moore:
I think the real issue is that FIFA still pretends that the ref (and his assistants) are the only ones that can see.
BTW: Guardian claims that England’s next opponent will be Norway.
JeffH
Has anyone noticed the potential ugliness looming in the last spot to advance? Suppose the Spain/South Korea match doesn’t end in a draw while Brazil/Costa Rica ends in a 1-1 draw. Then CR finishes third in the group with 4 goals scored and 4 goals allowed, exactly the same as Sweden. Unless I’m missing something, that means the last third place team to advance will be decided by a coin flip.
Roger Moore
@SRW1:
As far as discipline goes, I can understand second-guessing a ref who genuinely messes up a call. But for judgment calls, you need to have somebody who can overrule the ref instantly, or very nearly so, to be able to do the game justice. You really can’t go back the next day and decide the ref messed up and you have to replay from the point of the mistake.