I actually liked the video. It took me a second to realize it was actually THE video because I was expecting her to be talking to the camera right away, and I thought it was a commercial (you know how half of youtube has those “You can skip this shit we know you are going to skip, but we’re going to fuck with you for five seconds anyway”), but when I realized that was the video, I went back and watched from the start.
I liked it. It seems like she softened her tone a little, too. Still think it is ridiculous our stupid population requires candidates to all wear variants of red and blue, but I actually liked the video.
Why have only 37k people watched it?
BTW- Let’s not forget about Donna Edwards. Regardless of who wins the Presidency, we could use someone strong in the Senate.
Chet
Kinda choked me up, actually. I saw lots of nods to groups which are solidly democratic (Hispanics, people of color, young women, LGBT) and I felt proud to be part of that coalition.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Hear, hear. See also Tammy Duckworth, Ted Strickland, Joe Sestak (maybe? don’t quite get that one, is it Obama’s fault? Or have we moved on to Hillary’s fault?), Florida, Wisconsin… we’re gonna need to run the table. Is Boxer’s retirement effective next cycle?
Elizabelle
I liked it a lot.
Keith G
Does that count the embeds?
Plus its Masters Sunday, the sun is still out, and some like you are HBO-ing.
eta..@Chet: I was too. I am an old and old fashioned liberal. I believe in “we” and I have always loved that fundamental value of the Democrats that we look after each other. If HRC tapes into that, she will be fine.
Davis X. Machina
Not a single mention of the public option. Not one.
SiubhanDuinne
I agree. She may not be my perfect candidate (and depending on who else, if anybody, decides to primary challenge her, I may not even vote for her until the general) but I’m pleased with the tone, the inclusiveness, and the general message. I could warm to this Hillary, and I hope I will have every reason to.
Corner Stone
@Davis X. Machina: The contradictions! They have been heightened!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Davis X. Machina: After four years of President Cruz, the American people will rise as one to call on Dennis to come and set things a’right.
kindness
The video is smooth. Good move Hil.
Anne Laurie
It made me feel good — about my country, and the candidate. Here’s to a third consecutive term for the Democrats in the Oval Office!
Davis X. Machina
@Corner Stone: I’m just distressed how short people’s memories are and how this, the most important issue facing Americans in this, the second decade of the new century, can just disappear…
Chat Noir
I liked it. I liked the diversity of people and the message.
Anne Laurie
P.S. Cole: There is a “Hillary Clinton 2016” category, y’know.
Also, “Proud to Be A Democrat”, just in case that should ever happen to fit your needs.
Baud
It had a dog that wasn’t been hauled around on the top of a car.
Win!
Corner Stone
@Davis X. Machina:
Licensing for barbers and barber shops?
TaMara (BHF)
Well hello, Hillary. I liked it.
Baud
To repeat what I said earlier, the “decked stacked” line is straight from Warren.
Davis X. Machina
@Corner Stone:
Not unless you’ve got Armando and Matty Yglesias mixed up…
Keith G
@SiubhanDuinne:
I have never voted for a perfect candidate. And some were decidedly a distance away from some fanciful notion of perfection.
Shit, in the 88 primaries, I voted for Jessie.
Eta
@Anne Laurie:
To quote Cornerstone, “Snap!”
KS in MA
I think she put the dog and cat in for BJ readers.
WaterGirl
I rushed over thinking that “so far, so good” was going to be a pupdate.
TaMara (BHF)
@Baud: Luckily I was not drinking anything when I read your comment. So. Keyboard safe.
Another Holocene Human
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Run the table of blue states, so there’s that.
And LOLGOP, that wasn’t funny. When do we get to the “laugh out loud” part because it’s nothing but horrorGOP all the time these days.
JPL
The video was great, the timing not so much. Had she sent email blitzes overnight the number might be higher.
imo
geg6
Color me impressed. Our Hillary is learning. This was not the stiff, inevitable and seemingly self-centered candidate we came to know and loathe back in ’08.
Major Major Major Major
Yeah, I liked the video. I was expecting… I don’t know exactly? Something self-important or …I don’t know. I mean, it’s a pretty bog standard Dem video, but it’s well produced and all and I can’t really find any faults. And “bog standard Dem” in this day and age is a good look on Hillary, especially since she’s apparently glommed onto the Liz Warren side of the party.
OT: My mom brought me some cat grass today. It’s Samwise’s new favorite toy, to be sure.
Just Some Fuckhead
It’s pretty hard not to feel played now that she’s a class warrior for the little guy. Reminds me of John Edward’s living in his 20000 square foot home complaining about two America’s. I suppose the low information voter will be a little less cynical than me.
And how did this ad pass muster without a Native American in it? Time to fire the Campaign Diversity Team.
John Cole +0
@Anne Laurie: Actually, I didn’t know. The tags exploded exponentially during the ABL period to the point that I started relying only on the ones I created and I guess I just haven’t kept up to date.
Mary G
I liked it too. She seems sincere and warm, although it seems like she comes in a little late (that is just nitpicking).
gogol's wife
@Keith G:
I can’t believe I started to cry too. I have been one of the Hillary skeptics, but now I’m feeling — yeah, why hasn’t a woman been president yet?* It’s just a gut emotional reaction that’s coming over me now that she’s announced.
*Because we’re too emotional and we cry?
MazeDancer
Video great. Just lovely. Wretched logo. Looks like bad universal hospital sign. Not a T-Shirt waiting to happen.
Twitter savaging already. “Hospital exit to right” pretty much most designers’ reactions.
Never ceases to amaze when people choose dreadful design.
No one in any focus group said: “Looks like a Hospital Exit”? Find that impossible to believe. So going with: No real focus groups.
JordanRules
@Keith G: Been looking for a definitive answer on if YT counts embeds and can’t find one. Hmph.
@JPL: Yeah, set the stage, get the momentum going. Or maybe there was a reason it was kind of lowkey and mysterious (rumors about twittah etc)
geg6
@WaterGirl:
It’s been a little challenging. Just had another small tussle and I think Lovey got nipped. Not enough to hurt her but enough to scare ad six her.
Major Major Major Major
Oh, and YouTube view numbers aren’t updated in real time, whoever asked about that. IIRC embeds are included too.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Maybe that’s why she met with Warren, to make sure she could use that phrase without attribution. I can just hear it now – Plagiarism!
gogol's wife
@MazeDancer:
Oh, I didn’t even notice that. You’re right. But I hope that won’t sink her candidacy.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: She’s already stealing stuff, unethical. BURN HER!!!
WaterGirl
@Major Major Major Major: I was glad to see your comment earlier that you are starting to feel better!
Major Major Major Major
@Just Some Fuckhead: Yes yes, and Al Gore is fat.
Suzanne
@MazeDancer: I actually really like the logo. It’s very European in its character—reminded me of the London Underground logo.
I thought the video was great. I thought it was very positive in tone and showed off her gravitas and her work ethic. I could use a lot more positivity this election cycle.
SiubhanDuinne
@Keith G:
Too young for Michael Dukakis, eh?
Edit: Never mind, I missed the whole ’88 part of your comment.
AdamK
Obama shoots rainbows. What’s Clinton’s superpower?
http://www.towleroad.com/2015/04/obama-rainbow.html
Violet
@Suzanne: Oh, no! Not European! Cheese-eating surrender monkey soshulists!
Keith G
@Just Some Fuckhead:.
I am thinking that this is not an election cycle when legitimate and True-Blue class warriors for the little guys and gals can get elected. The financial and media landscapes are each their own sort of jungle and survival of the fittest means those fitted with large pockets of cash….and that cash has in part to come from some unholy places.
WaterGirl
@geg6: Thanks for the pupdate! Of course it’s challenging, she’s a puppy! (I’ve had mine for nearly 5 months) Hugs all around
Either I don’t get out enough to know the new lingo, or that was the result of autocorrect.
Keith G
@SiubhanDuinne: I typed that I voted for Jesse over Dukakis. I had just turned thirty, so maybe I was too young to be in the Dukakis camp.
WaterGirl
@Keith G: I read Jesse as Jesus both times you’ve typed it in this thread. Time for me to go clean my glasses.
SiubhanDuinne
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Yeah, and where were the wheelchairs and artificial limbs?
Violet
Just watched it. I like it! Like all the people. Especially like “earn your vote.” Nice acknowledgment that it isn’t a coronation. She looks good.
MazeDancer
YouTube videos used to stop view counts at 301 on the first day. Overnight they check all views before revising the count.
Now that Billboard is using streams to calculate “sales figures”, Google may have revised YT views again. They work on stopping non-real people “viewing” counting as a number elevation. No matter what, today, there will be no real numbers.
JPL
@JordanRules: Tomorrow the news headlines will be less than a hundred thousand people linked to her website. The truth is several people that I know saw the video on CNN.
the Conster
OK! Basically, she needs to, and is, appealing to everyone not in thrall to Fox News. That’s a lot of people. She’s a hard worker and is the only announced candidate based in reality. If she can parrot Elizabeth Warren and Obama, I feel a lot more hopeful.
ETA: running away from Obama = lose.
SiubhanDuinne
@Keith G:
Yup, made an edit/correction to my post. Sorry.
Alison
I liked the video a lot. I like that it shows an actual true reflection of society, rather than Whiteyville of the GOP fantasies. And I liked the new attitude, too. From Benen:
Not looking forward to a year and a half of conservatives screaming about how she’s a demon feminazi lying monster, as well as TRUE PROGRESSIVES admonishing any of us who like her that we’re terrible traitors to the left and not real liberals and blah blah. Look, I’m not gonna demand you support her, but don’t tell me I’m an asshole or not a liberal if I do. You go find me the progressive sparkle-pony who both satisfies your every single requirement and who could also win the election.
I’ll wait.
Anyway, yay, looking forward to her debating any of the fuckbuckets the GOP ends up with.
pseudonymous in nc
View Source is fun. And the font (‘Unity’) is bespoke, and I’d be curious to know who made it.
SiubhanDuinne
@WaterGirl:
Jesus wouldn’t be a bad primary challenger, actually.
Suzanne
@Violet: If nothing else, the Dems smoke the Rethugs in the graphic design department. Exhibit A: AquaFresh Romney’s logo.
eemom
I saw her video, now I’m a believer….
JordanRules
@MazeDancer: Thanks for that info. I had just started to read about this magical 300 comments number where YT then stops and uses their algorithm.
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: I would consider voting for him. Pretty sure he’d be good on social issues and separation of church and state.
JPL
@SiubhanDuinne: He’s to liberal and loves the prostitutes.
BillinGlendaleCA
@eemom: That’s a damned good kick-off vid.
Keith G
@WaterGirl: He may have thought so.
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne:
Only if he’s ready to come clean about Mary Magdelane
Davis X. Machina
For those of you with self-harming issues, I recommend Bloomberg’s Definitive Hillary Scouting Report with Mark Halperin and John Heilemann.
It’s marginally safer, and less messy, than cutting….
Keith G
@SiubhanDuinne:
I think he had a drinking problem…and I heard he had hung out with a thief and a rabble-rouser.
Pogonip
I have What’s Going Around and have been stuck in the house all weekend, so figured I might as well get back on the Intertubes for the evening. Cole, does Thurston seem to be looking for Lovey?
I watched the Hillary video and am underwhelmed. Presidential election choices will be a sane Wall Street whore (Hillary) or a crazy Wall Street whore (whomever the Republicans nominate). Out of 350,000,000 people, the parties can’t do any better than this? A campaign slogan of “Hillary: She’s Sane” or “Hillary: You Could Do Worse” does not motivate me to stuff envelopes or whatever political volunteers do these days. Granted the flagrant corruption is not all her fault; but, benefiting so richly from it, will she be inclined to try to clean up? Not likely, and neither would her Republican counterpart.
I wonder if “identity politics,” stirring up demographic groups against each other, isn’t so prevalent these days because it’s the only way the parties can think of to keep citizens from noticing how alike they are in their corruption. If so, it’s not really working. What seems to be happening instead is a voter thinks, ” Well, I’m not thrilled with the Evil Corrupt Party, but since I’m [gay, black, poor white, Jewish, Christian, what-have-you] the Corrupt Evil Party sure isn’t thrilled with ME, so I guess I’m stuck with the Evil Corrupt Party.”. Then both parties, seeing results, double down on the Balkanization and the cycle continues. I don’t think it will lead to the horrors of the actual Balkans, but it is sure no way to run a country.
Aren’t you glad I returned for the evening? I’m going back to bed.
Davis X. Machina
@Keith G:
Minuses also include: Consorts with known Middle Eastern terrorist.
Hard to take any anti-tax position seriously with an IRS agent on his campaign staff.
Baud
@Pogonip:
We all hang out on John Cole’s blog. That should tell you something about the talent pool we’re drawing from.
Cervantes
@Davis X. Machina:
Still too subtle, maybe.
Cervantes
@Davis X. Machina:
I see no evidence that it’s safer.
geg6
@WaterGirl:
Yes, fucking autocorrect.
James E Powell
Cannot wait for the parade of self-described liberals who will write Op-Eds and appear on cable to agree, more out of sadness than anger, that Hillary is just not right for America.
This will be followed, or rather joined, by another parade of supposed insiders whose revelations will be The Big Story of this presidential cycle.
And what else? More Benghazi!!! investigations? Demands to re-open Whitewater?
I really hope she wins. Really. But I’m going to have to give up the news till election night 2016.
Poopyman
@geg6: Looking at the pic Cole posted down below, I’m wondering if Lovey’s glommed onto JohnDad as a Cole replacement. Of course, it’s hard for you to get a shot off if she’s draped all over you, so there may be some non-random selection of pic subjects going on.
Cervantes
@eemom:
But would you take the last train to Clarksville?
Pogonip
@Baud: “Steve and Thurston: Because They’re Cute, They Won’t Send Your Children To War, And Cable News Won’t Babble About Them 24/7.”
You could probably grab the first two people walking by the Capitol building to be President and VP, and I include gangbangers, welfare recipients, and honest whores in that statement. At least those people, unlike the Wall Street whores, live in the real world.
Goodnight, see you on the pupdate tomorrow!
Davis X. Machina
@Pogonip:
In a country with no detectable appetite for social democracy, the only progress you’re going to make changing the economic landscape is at the margins (direct gov’t origination of student loans, small increases in federal minimum wage,e.g. small ball stuff), and sporadically. The other stuff gets done because, well, it can get done.
Leaders don’t lead, they follow.
Seriously addressing slavery — the salient issue of the early 19th century — was sedulously avoided by all three major parties, and for as long as possible.
Inequality bids fair to trace the same arc.
MazeDancer
@JordanRules: The one thing Google has got is server power. They can check numbers. Who knows if they compile them accurately. But they can certainly run some validation scenarios. Ad rates depend on it.
Also, wondering how Twitter establishes a level playing field for politics about trending, or if they even try.
Twitter has certain celebs that they won’t let trend. The most popular ones and/or those with the biggest fan bases on Twitter. (Names I know they block to trend include Justin Bieber, One Direction, and Adam Lambert. Probably GaGa) Otherwise the same names would take over the trends every day. Cut down on selling promoted tweets.
Have wondered if “Clinton” was one of those names or not. Guessing Obama is. But wonder what Twitter will do for politicians who are celebs.
SiubhanDuinne
@WaterGirl:
@JPL:
Now how can an informed voter possibly make an intelligent choice between you two?
Pogonip
@geg6: Whoops, almost missed you! How are Lovey and Koda getting along? Did Lovey cry much last night?
MattF
The very least you can say is that she’s getting better advice than last time and she’s following it. And as a whole, it does seem to ring true– which could matter, given that the leading R candidates all have the “I’ll say anything” theme down pat.
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
MOAR CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS!!
SiubhanDuinne
@Keith G:
Also, he couldn’t swim.
Keith G
@Davis X. Machina:
Good word!
It had been so long since I had seen it that I had to look it up to be sure.
Corner Stone
@SiubhanDuinne:
Just because he didn’t…
Morzer
*In the voice of askew *
She’s just hiding how entitled she is, which makes her even worse than I confidently expected!!!
*In the voice of the cautiously optimistic realist who is Morzer Zeroth of his Name*
I thought the video would have been better if it had started with HRC saying something like:
“Spring is a time of expectations and hope” and then cut to the various people telling their stories. As it stands, it’s easy to spend the opening minutes wonder just when the voice-over is going to cut in and try to sell you a Megan McArdle approved rose crystal Himalayan seasalt grinder.
geg6
@Pogonip:
It’s a little challenging. Koda and Lovey are both jealous and quite straightforward (to put it nicely; really both spoiled). Some issues, but we hope to overcome them in a week or two. Lovey didn’t cry a peep last night and let us know she had to pee at 2am. And then pooped in the bathroom as soon as she came in. LOL! Trying to figure out how to work this when I go back to work Tuesday and can’t get home until lunch to take them out. She cries pitifully when she can’t see one of us.
WaterGirl
@geg6: If autocorrect, I was going with “scared the shit out of her”. Is that close to what you were trying to say?
If so, poor baby.
MattF
@Morzer: Himalayan seasalt? Isn’t there a, um, geographic problem with that?
srv
Now that things are under way, there will need to be enough players to lend the proper gravitas to this long, plodding campain of blog complain.
Are there really Anti-Hillary PUMAs and where does one find them and study them? Are they pro-Warren northeasterners who hated the carpetbagger but were bigots first?
Ruckus
@Mary G:
I like that she comes in a little late. This should be about all of us, not what it will do for her. She wants to be president, that means putting the country first and that means putting the people first. And mostly that means the people without a very expensive/expansive voice.
IOW I liked it.
WaterGirl
@Poopyman: I had the same thought as you.
geg6
@WaterGirl:
Exactly.
different-church-lady
@Davis X. Machina: I’d read that, but I’m not sure my desk can handle much more forehead.
Elizabelle
I liked the people in the ad.
One of these parties is not like the other.
Despite all the obfuscation of national political reporters (already not reading the NYTimes) and fabulists about the deserving nature of the hardworking well-off (Bobo, anyone)?
Now to turn every last vote out. Do that and we win. People sit on their hands — they make me nervous!
Ajabu
Hey Guys:
Not to step on Hilllary’s big announcement (I’m down with that) but…
Hop on over to Anne Laurie’s Sunday Evening Open Thread for my
Very Important (to me) Announcement! (at comment #15)
Thanks!!!
Roger Moore
@Violet:
This.
Elizabelle
I hope we see Senator Elizabeth Warren in heavy rotation on the trail, and siccing it to banksters and other malfeasors from her Senate post.
GE deciding to wind out GE Capital because regulation is onerous — moar of that, please.
GM is alive and GE Capital is getting spun off. GE should stick to its knitting and design and manufacture some great products. Well done.
Aleta
@Keith G: Never wrote his parents. Yet talked out loud to an invisible father that he claimed had forsaken him.
WaterGirl
@geg6: My little guy would cry hysterically when the former owner left the house, but did not do that at my house. One difference is that when I leave I move his crate to the glass door so he can see that I’m leaving and he can see when I come back.
One day I was just heading out for 15 minutes so I thought I would leave his crate where it usually is in the living room. Bad move, hysterics before I even made it to my car. So something about getting to know what’s going on and knowing he’ll see me the second I return seems to do the trick.
That seemed to help Henry tremendously, maybe it will help you?
MattF
@Elizabelle: Yes! Krugman says it clearly, as usual:
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/04/11/a-victory-against-the-shadows/?module=BlogPost-Title&version=Blog%20Main&contentCollection=Opinion&action=Click&pgtype=Blogs®ion=Body
srv
@Morzer: I really think pink salt in a rose grinder would be gauche.
different-church-lady
@SiubhanDuinne: I don’t tend to watch videos on the computer, so I leave it to others to tell me if there’s a transgendered albino in there somewhere. Intersectionality or she’s Hitler, there’s no in-between.
different-church-lady
@geg6: Everyone complains about auto correct. But nobody ever turns it off.
raven
@Cervantes: I did, November 1966.
Tracy Ratcliff
@MattF: Dr. Krugman gets many geek points for that illustration at the top of the blog.
Morzer
@MattF:
Another hardworking little Christian mom and pop usury business wrecked by Big Regulation!
Thanks, Obama!
different-church-lady
@MattF: Depends on how far back you want to go:
MikeBoyScout
Prediction: Favorables sky rocket in the next 2 weeks.
Also, did Hil just air the first ad by a presidential candidate featuring a same sex couple?
JordanRules
@MattF: He spelled that out so succinctly. Love it K-thug!
Morzer
@MikeBoyScout:
I wonder if I could raise a million bucks from the rubes by posing as a Christian cake maker put out of business by the evil HRC for refusing to bake a homocake for the HRC Incipient Tyranny video?
Tom W.
607K now on YouTube alone – lot of people talking about this video (which I agree, was pitch perfect for this race).
nancydarling
@JPL: I just went to YouTube, and I show over 600,000 views.
Peale
@MattF: a surprising number of merchant ships fly the Mongolian Flag. I think the entire idea that there is land in China and India and not an ocean is a recent phenomena. Note how neither of those countries is mentioned in writing before 1300 bce.
David Koch
Watching CNN and Feinstein just gave her a big endorsement. Earlier she got a big endorsement from the Chairman of Goldman Sachs
So there you have it. Hillary Clinton – the candidate of AIPAC stooges and Goldman Sachs
scav
@different-church-lady: My spelling errors are all hand-crafted, artisanal and personalized, I’ll have you know. Took my a while to find out where to do it, but I’ve a devotion to my art.
Omnes Omnibus
@scav: Me, I just blame autocorrect for my crappy typing.
Cervantes
@MattF:
Much of the Himalayan region was below sea level for a long, long time.
Belafon
@Pogonip:
The candidates first select themselves. That reduces the pool considerably.
BillinGlendaleCA
@David Koch: DiFi said unkind things about Bibi, so I believe she had to surrender her AIPAC stooge card.
Anne Laurie
@John Cole +0: Well, to be fair, I only started the “HC 2016” category earlier this week, cuz I’m superstitious like that. :)
But “Proud to Be A Dem” has been around since Elizabeth Warren first popped up, IIRC.
The Moar U Know!
JPL
@nancydarling: nice
sharl
Thanks for mentioning Donna Edward, JGC. I think she’ll have her work cut out for her in this campaign, and will need all the help she can get.
She was on a local weekly radio politics show a few weeks ago; you can hear that discussion by clicking on the link included at this site. After being introduced up front, they talked about other things – primarily about former civil rights leader and DC Congressman Walter Fauntroy and his current travails – until bringing her in after about the 4:10 mark. It was an interesting interview, and IMO worth your time if you’re interested in Edwards’ campaign. The whole interview runs about 21 minutes (~4:13 – 24:45).
….At about the 17 minute mark, a caller is disappointed in having heard nothing in the media about her accomplishments in the House. DE’s response is honest, but also likely to be a problem for her IMO (tl;dl: she has largely worked behind the scenes, and her results don’t make the headlines).
….Apparently in some earlier interview she expressed an interest in going to Mars, even if the trip was one-way, so she was asked/teased about that. No big thing there, but given her activist past and basic personality, I wonder if that is a manifestation of a certain restlessness and frustration at being part of the largely powerless minority party in the House.
More recently, and coming as a bit of a surprise to me (maybe it shouldn’t have), she did NOT get the endorsement of Prince George’s County Executive Rushern Baker, who instead endorsed Rep. Van Hollen (MD-8) of nearby Montgomery County. Van Hollen already has the support of most (if not all) MoCo Democratic officeholders. Harry Reid also endorsed Van Hollen pretty much from the get-go.
Elijah Cummings (MD-7) also says he is considering a run, and if that happens, it can only hurt Donna’s chances of winning support in Cumming’s Baltimore district.
I’ve left out a whole bunch of possible contenders, but this month-old post by a cranky old journo who’s been covering MD politics for ages ain’t totally bad, outside of his subjectively hostile summary of Edwards’ far-left liberal politics and legislative track record.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
How many square feet did Roosevelt have at Hyde Park?
MattF
@Cervantes: Not to get all cranky about this, but according to the intertoobz, the mines that yield Himalayan salt are located in Pakistan, near the Indus river. A long way from the mountains.
Peale
@Belafon: I’ll run. It might offer a nice change of pace. I don’t mind spaghetti dinners and state fairs, so I think the MSM will fawn over how naturally I fit in with regular folk. I can be the Democratic Governor Goodhair.
MikeBoyScout
@efgoldman: I’m thinking she just made history on that count. Repugs aren’t going to echo that. Likely to drive them batshit crazy.
different-church-lady
@Belafon: Which brings to mind Douglas Adams’ observation that “anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.”
Iowa Old Lady
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I don’t object at all to the rich advocating for the poor. What do we want them to say after all? “I got mine. Screw the rest of you”?
Cervantes
@Elizabelle:
“We bring good things to life!”
GE is usually in the top twenty arms-producing and military-services corporations in the world.
(I guess Chinese manufacturers may soon knock it down a peg or three, if it hasn’t happened yet.)
Cervantes
@Iowa Old Lady:
Could not agree more.
Cervantes
@MattF:
Sure — I left out the scare quotes (just as you did).
feebog
@Ruckus:
Me too. I thought the whole vid was well produced and very nicely paced. And I will walk over broken glass to see her (or any other Dem nominee) elected. A Republican President at this point would put this country back a 100 years.
Pogonip
@different-church-lady: On Apple, I can’t find out HOW to turn it off. (The Apple company thinks instruction booklets are unhip.). If I could I would. A colleague once dubbed me “Red Pogonip, Spellcheck’s Bane,” because I so vigorously resisted it. (The “Red” was borrowed from a cartoon character, Red Sonya, a steel-bikini type character.)
Ruckus
@feebog:
More like 165 yrs but at this point that’s only arguing over minor details.
This is also a good KThug post about the conservative side of the isle.
dogwood
That was a great video. It had that “Morning in America” vibe. Hated Reagan, but that was a terrific add.
Belafon
@different-church-lady: The only problem I have with rules like that is Democrats are the only ones that would follow them.
max
I have watched the video. I have added to the numbers. It’s a bit like a home furnishings commercial or something. But, you know, gotta start somewhere.
She’ll be fine.
max
[‘This comment brought to you by the phrase, ‘I’m going to watching GoT shortly’.’]
Cervantes
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Springwood, the residence, comprised about … 20,000 square feet.
(FDR inherited it from his dad and in ’43 donated it to the country.)
grandpa john
@gogol’s wife: you didn’t notice, and I didn’t either. I would imagine that most other people not looking for nits to pick didn’t either but instead was looking and listening to the message. Wonder what the population count is of people in this country out side the beltway that don’t even know what Twitter is?
different-church-lady
@Pogonip: I turned it off the first day I had my iPhone, though I can’t remember off the top of my head how to do it.
Baud
@grandpa john:
My mom doesn’t.
Pogonip
@geg6: Oh, dear. About all you can do is beg the neighbors’ indulgence, keep the dogs inside with windows closed, and hope Lovey figures out quickly that while Cole did a vanishing act, HE was a one-off and nice normal owners like she has now go out the Door of Horror but reliably come back through after a while. Please keep us posted when you have time!
I feel like hell and am urgently needed on the job tomorrow. From grandmothers raising their grandchildren and bringing germs to work, Good Lord, deliver us. A couple of hours ago I joined Lovey in barfing on the rug; couldn’t get to the bathroom in time. Gah. I’m going to crawl back to bed.
different-church-lady
@Pogonip: Ah, here we go:
Settings…
Keyboard…
Auto correction OFF
Check spelling ON
That will flag your misspellings, but won’t auto-correct them.
This ain’t rocket surgery folks.
different-church-lady
@efgoldman: only if you’re using an iNail.
Mike in NC
@Elizabelle: Worked off and on as a consultant at GE for four years. It’s a really shitty company that has zero regard for its employees. They won’t spend a dime to improve workplace conditions. They even stopped providing Styrofoam coffee cups in break rooms to boost profits. GE was also eager to get out of the lightbulb and appliance business to concentrate on other more profitable operations, like selling jet engines for military aircraft.
Mike in NC
@feebog: Cruz, Paul, and the parade of mutants eager to jump into the GOP clown car have no interest in living in the 21st century, nor do their primary voters.
grandpa john
@James E Powell:
Try it you will like, I did several years ago and it really improved my attitude and mental health.
Ruckus
@efgoldman:
A hammer is OK if it is a 5# sledge. I find that a large truck is more satisfying. But best of all is gravity. 5 stories of gravity is about min though.
Baud
@grandpa john:
Same here. It’s terrible.
Cervantes
@different-church-lady:
I’m told this works in iOS 8.3:
Even if one does not know, wouldn’t this be a reasonable (not to say obvious) place to look?
Pogonip
@different-church-lady: I found it! Bless you!
Kay
@srv:
This is the sort of thing I look forward to :)
Mike in NC
The video was pretty good. Don’t care about the arrow logo. Waiting for the Bush 2016 ads with nods to Real Americans like the Koch brothers, Ted Nugent, Cliven Bundy, and the hordes of blue-haired haters and bigots.
Little Boots
for omnes, for love:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt5fv-89Maw
Cervantes
@sharl:
Thanks.
It appears she’ll need more help.
BillinGlendaleCA
@different-church-lady: Those are $200 each at the Apple store.
Roger Moore
@Mike in NC:
Not gonna happen. The Koch brothers are more than happy to be left out of the ads, and Bush is definitely in the school that believes in hiding their true intentions rather than trumpeting them. Instead, there will be lots of shots of plain, honest, hard working white folks talking about how we need sensible solutions.
Betty
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Regarding Sestak, I have been informed by a former subordinate of his that he is a “horrible person.” Have no details, but there may be valid reasons for the party’s non-support.
Morzer
@Mike in NC:
I am a bit disappointed that no-one has yet begun to analyze the fact that the arrow points TO THE RIGHT! It’s a clue, sheeple! Wake up!
Goblue72
Not a Hilz fan but really liked the video and what it says about her as a candidate. She’s learning & adapting. Which is a good thing.
I saw lots of women of varying ages. I saw not one but two gay couples (one gay one lesbian). Including a quite clear support for gay marriage. I saw Latinos speaking Spanish – who were also clearly business OWNERS. Also saw a quite adorbs interracial couple with their dog. What appeared to be a single mom or two. Blue collar white with a flag was in there at some point.
I really liked how unrelentingly diverse it was. Speaks well to her hopefully realizing playing it safe won’t work and shying away from Dem core values won’t work. A Hillary that embraces gay marriage with a “you got a problem with that?” attitude is going to win a lot more respect from the squishy center (& from the skeptical base). Iron Lady meets Ellen/Oprah is a nice right hook.
Pogonip
@efgoldman: Look here, you insolent whippersnappers, I tied an onion to the damn thing. When that didn’t work, how was i supposed to know where to go from there? Now get off my lawn before i stagger out there and barf on your shoes.
Actually, if i remember right, i was looking for Spell Check being out there as it is with Windows. Did not think that Apple would recognize its iniquity and thus have the decency to hide it behind something, i. e. “Keyboard.”
Morzer
@efgoldman:
There’s an app for tha… oh, wait.
There’s an app that will teach her how to use the app for that. Oh, wait.
There’s an app that will teach her how to use the app that will teach her how to…..
I think I need a hug.
Morzer
@Goblue72:
“Republicans thought Hillary was Miesha Tate. Turns out, she’s actually Ronda Rousey.”
Baud
@Morzer:
There is probably an app for that.
Morzer
@efgoldman:
The pants-en-fuego party is going for greater truth in advertising?
Morzer
@Baud:
Reader, I married her.
Ruckus
@efgoldman:
Just saying, 5 stories of gravity is more satisfying, not that a common hammer is ineffective.
Bill Arnold
@Pogonip:
Auto-Correction is there too. That is certainly worth turning off for nearly everyone.
Cervantes
@Betty:
He’s hardly a “horrible person,” just that he holds others to the standards he tries to maintain for himself. You know the type, I am sure.
He was tough to deal with even in the Navy and left on less-than-good terms. That party hacks don’t get along with him is not a surprise — but he’s not an easy person to work for even if you admire him personally. I wouldn’t say this makes him a “horrible person.”
WaterGirl
@efgoldman: Flames? The hell with shrinking it until it fits in a bathtub. Burn the government to the ground. I think that’s what the flames stand for.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Do you remember Hugs for Obama during the 2008 campaign? I thought the videos showing all these happy people getting their hugs was pretty cool.
Morzer
@efgoldman:
Only when you are doing it right.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
I don’t. BDSM for Hillary would be pretty cool though.
Ruckus
@efgoldman:
And I said nothing about a 12 gauge magnum loaded with buckshot. That’s satisfying. Dangerous, loud and possibly quite stupid, but satisfying.
Ruckus
@WaterGirl:
Was going to say or hell on earth but they end up being the same thing.
WaterGirl
@Baud: In case you were wondering, I wasn’t making that up.
Free Hugs for Obama
WaterGirl
@Ruckus: That would work, too. I suspect their websites explain their logos, but I’m sure it would be unbearable to go looking.
JordanRules
@Cervantes: Did you serve in the Navy with him?
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Thanks! That was sweet.
askew
@Cervantes:
kos at Daily Kos has said that the reason they won’t endorse Sestak is because treats his staff horribly and there is huge staff turnover due to his behavior.
More on-topic, I am incredibly excited about Donna Edwards. I hope she can pull off an upset in the MD-Sen primary.
As for Hillary’s ad, it reminded me of an ad for Fidelity or Blue Cross. It was focus tested and generic. But, it was a huge improvement from 2007’s announcement so maybe she is actually listening to the Obama staffers who signed on to her campaign. And her supporters seem to like it so that is all that matters.
Ruckus
@WaterGirl:
For anyone with more working brain cells than a box of salt.
different-church-lady
@Ruckus: So many things to throw on the ground…
Bill Arnold
@Betty:
The wikipedia article for him quotes a former aide:
Which, if an anonymous source in a wikipedia article is to be believed, roughly confirms Cervante’s take.
(Yes, some people would consider this a description of a person unpleasant to work for.)
Baud
@different-church-lady:
Heh.
nancydarling
@efgoldman: My sister, who is 79, thinks that copy and paste is something you do with scissors and a gluestick. Mostly she does email and forwards cute animal videos and pics.
I’ve tried to teach her, but she’s not interested. I am a tech idiot but even I have mastered a few things.
I still don’t know how to embed a link without using the whole web address.
different-church-lady
@nancydarling:
1. Copy the address of the page you want the link to go to
2. Come back to BJ, highlight the text you want have as the link
3. Click the “link” button*
4. Paste the address you copied at step 1.
This will result in something that looks like gibberish in the immediate text entry field, but when you post it, WordPress will format it as a link.
*I’m told this button (and others) does not appear in the mobile version of BJ? So these instructions might not work on phones and tablets.
E-mul
Can we get a BJ ActBlue thermometer for Donna? Everyone loves a good ActBlue Thermometer.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Is our Clintonites lurning?
This is so fucking stupid. She couldn’t have done better if she were trying to parody PUMAs. She already deleted it and apparently is trying to pretend she didn’t mean it the way it sounded.
I said many times in ’08 that HRC was poorly served by her surrogates and supporters, from Bubba and unmothballed racist Geraldine Ferraro on down to the screaming meemies of MyDD
nancydarling
@different-church-lady: Thanks! I’ve copied and pasted your instructions. No glue sticks for me!
Zinsky
It was very well done. Regardless, the right-wing jackals are howling for her blood and the howling and cackling won’t cease for 20 months more.
Corner Stone
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I know that I, for one, hate everyone that Hilary Rosen loves!
askew
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Wasn’t Rosen the one who attacked Ann Romney for no reason in 2012? Is she still associated with Hillary Clinton or is she just another disastrous ex-Clinton supporter turned pundit?
sharl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Ah, Hilary Rosen, former RIAA chief, populist hero in sync with the pulse of the nation.
Cervantes
@different-church-lady:
You’re told incorrectly — at least, as far as I can see.
Cervantes
@askew:
Attacked Ann Romney, yes. Reason? No idea.
What she’s been doing for some years now is selling her (asserted and perceived) access to the Obama White House.
askew
@Cervantes:
Well, I can’t blame Hillary for Rosen’s comments then. Sounds like she is just sleazy.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@different-church-lady:
Well, maybe. Assuming Word Press doesn’t just send the link off to the Bahamas or somewhere.
WaterGirl
Can someone explain this dust-up between the NYC mayor and the clinton campaign? I saw that the mayor said he would wait to see her positions before deciding to endorse her, but I gather there was some negative response from the campaign or a surrogate?
edited
Cervantes
@efgoldman:
OK, and it’s no fun being intimidated, sure.
Thanks.
Corner Stone
@WaterGirl:
Sure. There is no dust-up.
People behind the scenes all say that there is no issue here, and all is well.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@WaterGirl: here ya go
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
if this becomes a pattern…. oy.
jonas
That was a pretty good video. We have to remember that the vast majority of low-information, middle-class voters who might be inclined to vote for HRC aren’t irony-marinated hipsters like the rest of us — they like this kind of Oprah-esque, focus-group tested stuff. If she can 1. keep Bill on a short leash, and 2. keep surrogates from saying/doing completely stupid shit, she will do quite well against whatever asshole the GOP puts forward who promises to kick the poors, gays, and minorities in the nuts harder than the guy to his left.
Corner Stone
@jonas:
How would one keep other people from saying/doing completely stupid shit?
(Not saying you necessarily have the answer to this.)
(Thanks)
WaterGirl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yeah, I saw your comment but I didn’t really understand it, that’s why I asked.
I don’t really speak fluent twitter. This one was especially confusing since I initially read “expense” as money related, but on second read I see that it’s not. So some surrogate tweets a veiled threat to Bill deBlasio? That’s it?
edited to make a complete sentence
sharl
@WaterGirl: Some background on this incident here, as well as some other info, including a link to an explanation of the Ann Romney thing mentioned upthread.
With “friends” like this…
jonas
Also, we can expect pretty much the following for the next year or so:
Normal, objective headline: “Clinton gives speech outlining economic plan”
Every MSM outlet headline: “Clinton scrambles to address concerns about her economic plan, particularly among white males voters”
Corner Stone
@sharl:
Yeah? And?
(Thanks)
Cervantes
@askew:
Her firm, SKDKnickerbocker, is essentially an unregistered lobbying operation. It is co-owned by and employs former Obama campaign and Administration staffers.
Kay probably knows it well because of its work on behalf of for-profit “educational” institutions.
Jewish Steel
Me gusta el video. Especailly the LGBT stuff. Made even this cynical ironist proud to be a D.
Omnes Omnibus
@Corner Stone:
Ask Vince Foster.
jonas
@Corner Stone: My points 1. and 2. were largely redundant. But see too, e.g., Geraldine Ferraro from 08 campaign. You don’t let prominent people endorsing you say stupid, racist, damaging crap without reigning them in within one news cycle. Period. A campaign that has its shit together takes care of this.
Corner Stone
@Omnes Omnibus:
In what way could one ask him anything?
(Not saying you have the answer to that, possibly.)
(Thanks)
Corner Stone
@jonas:
Takes care of this, how?
Omnes Omnibus
@Corner Stone: You can ask quite easily. Getting an answer is the challenge.
Corner Stone
@Omnes Omnibus: What would [1] asking look like? And [2] what would the challenge be?
(Not saying you should have the answers to those questions, necessarily.)
(Thanks)
sharl
@Corner Stone: Sorry, but at 11pm ET I switched from Serious Commenting to Performance Art Commenting.
I do not explain my Art, instead leaving that to the Reader, as so many true Artistes do.
What do you think I meant? That’s the important question.
Omnes Omnibus
@Corner Stone: You can do this all night, can’t you? I cede the field, sir.
Corner Stone
@sharl: It’s not really up to me to decide what another commenter [1] meant by their comment and/or [2] deserve as a response.
That’s why I asked.
(Not suggesting you should have the answers to those questions, necessarily.)
(Thanks)
Gretchen
Thank you, different church lady. I turned my auto-correct off too.
Cervantes, I didn’t look for it because it didn’t occur to me that there is a way to turn it off. As dcl says, everybody complains about it, so I didn’t know you could do something about it.
Gretchen
Rod Dreher has been having a hysterical meltdown over at the American Conservative over the Indiana law and the Christian bakery and the end of civilization that will result from gay marriage and how they’ll all have to withdraw into the wilderness or something. I can’t wait to see what he thinks of the Democratic presidential campaign noting gay marriage approvingly.
askew
Man, there are a lot of racist Hillary supporters attacking The Obama Diary and other Obama supporters on twitter for not being excited to vote for Hillary. It’s pretty ugly. It’s like the entire Taylor Marsh site is tweeting out their racist vile at once.
And the entire Democratic establishment has sent me emails telling me to get on-board with Hillary. Guess we aren’t having a primary this time.
Omnes Omnibus
@askew:
Of course, there are going to be primaries. There will be several candidates. HRC may seem like the prohibitive favorite right now, but it is early days. And for the record, I have huge concerns about HRC’s age and health, but I don’t see the point of trashing our party’s frontrunner and doing the work of the GOP. YMMV.
Corner Stone
@askew: Wow.
askew
@Omnes Omnibus:
I don’t see the point in attacking fellow Dems and calling them sexist and racist for not supporting Hillary before the primary even starts but that is what some Hillary supporters are doing now. It’s pretty ugly.
And the Dem establishment is clearly circling the wagons and trying to push out any competition for Hillary.
This is just going to piss off Dem voters again. No one wants to be told who to vote for. We want a choice.
Cain
It was a pretty good kick off video. For shits and grins, I watched Obama’s “Fired up / Ready to go!” and damn, I don’t know what is about that guy on the screen. He really brings it. I felt all hopey changey watching it all over again. 10/10 would vote for Obama.
Corner Stone
@askew: Just can’t help yourself from lying, eh?
I would say it’s stunning but it’s really more status quo from you.
WaterGirl
@askew:
I haven’t gotten a single email about this. Can you copy and paste the text of these emails so I can see what they say?
Omnes Omnibus
@askew: You do realize that she has really high approval levels among rank and file Dems, right? She has some issues with the AA community from some of her tactics against Obama; she has fences to mend there. But Obama’s support should help her with that. And from what I have read, the big O will be behind her.
@WaterGirl:
Nor have I.
sharl
@Corner Stone: I think it will all become clear after seeing this and this.
(You’re welcome)
Omnes Omnibus
@sharl: Not enough turtles.
El Caganer
@askew: Some HRC (who’s seeking the Dem nomination) supporters are attacking Obama (sitting Dem President) supporters for insufficient Hillmentum? That’s really fucking stupid.
sharl
@Omnes Omnibus: There never are…
Omnes Omnibus
@El Caganer: Sure, but blaming her for it is equally stupid.
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: There’s definitely some ugliness at the Obama Diary.
askew
@WaterGirl:
I can’t paste the one from DNC HQ because it is just a massive picture asking me if I am in for 2016. But it goes to http://www.mydemocrats.org/Hillary.
Here’s the one from Schumer:
askew
@El Caganer:
Yeah, it’s bizarre. My TL just blew up over it.
Omnes Omnibus
@askew: Okay. Schumer basically endorsed her. And?
El Caganer
@Omnes Omnibus: Hell, I certainly wouldn’t blame her for it – AFAIK, she’s actively soliciting Obama’s support and he’s happy to provide it. She’s got some dumbass followers, though, if they can’t see why this is a poor move.
askew
@WaterGirl:
Here’s another one I got from DNC:
Still digging through spam folder to get more.
askew
@Omnes Omnibus:
People asked to see the emails I got endorsing Hillary because apparently I am a liar. So, I am posting them.
Senator Mikulski:
Omnes Omnibus
@askew:
Yep, that is circling the wagons around HRC.* Take a couple of steps back. The DNC is welcoming a prominent Dem to the race. No more, no less. It was not an endorsement.
*That was snark.
@askew: Okay, Mikulski endorsed her. Quelle surprise. I am still not seeing the circling of wagons that you suggested.
WaterGirl
@askew: I’m sure they have all sorts of lists and the first thing they will do is ask for donations. Thanks for posting that one.
That looks like a standard fundraising email to me, though. I would imagine that the first thing they’ll want to do is find out how many of the people from those lists will actually donate to Hillary. If people feel that’s pushy and feel that Hillary is being pushed on them, then unsubscribing from all those lists will send a message.
askew
Here’s the link to the DSCC’s site basically endorsing Hillary as well:
https://www.dscc.org/standwithdems
WaterGirl
@El Caganer:
I’m with you on that!
askew
@WaterGirl:
I unsubscribed from all of them. The sales pitch basically made it sound like Hillary is our nominee. No mention of a primary and I’d be shocked if Sanders, Webb or O’Malley gets email announcements like that from DNC, etc. I’d love to be proven wrong though.
WaterGirl
@askew: I am guessing that this is someone’s idea of a strong rollout for the campaign. If you think it’s pushy, then unsubscribe to each list as soon as you get the email messages. That’s what I plan to do.
I think we’ll know better once someone else like O’Malley declares their candidacy. Will the DSCC also send out messages for him? My best guess is that the answer will be yes, but we will know soon enough.
All the DSCC cares about at this point is collecting names and email addresses. They won’t get mine, but then they never do because I prefer to give directly to candidates.
Omnes Omnibus
@askew: She is the 800 lb gorilla in the Dem Party. She will suck up all coverage until someone takes it from her. If you don’t want her, start pushing your person.
WaterGirl
@askew: Our comments crossed in the night. I don’t think that the individuals who have endorsed Hillary (Schumer, etc) will send out anything for O’Malley (for example) but I would think that groups like the DNC and DSCC etc will. Again, time will tell.
I’m sure it is their goal to make Hillary seem like a fate accompli. Their wishing it doesn’t make it so. A lot of folks here today seemed to like the video, so maybe it will be all over but the shouting. I sincerely hope not, but everybody gets to make their own choice.
Cervantes
@Gretchen:
Fair enough.
And kudos to different-church-lady for helping you and others.
@Gretchen:
I don’t read Dreher — and thanks for reminding me why.
Have a great evening!
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus:
Not sure I agree with that statement. I imagine the DNC wants Hillary because they have decided she has the best chance of winning.
I can’t recall if it was BooMan or the fellow who took over for Benen at the Political Animal, but one of them talked last week about how we need – and should want – additional candidates for several reasons. One of those reasons was that you need an understudy even with Hillary in case she falls ill or their candidacy blows up for some other reason. You always want someone else waiting in the wings, at the very least.
Look at the crazy republican candidates who were expected to win their senate races and then something unexpected happens and suddenly the whole race looks different.
WaterGirl
@askew: One person called you a liar. I asked to see the messages so I could see what they said and judge them for myself.
askew
@WaterGirl:
I think it is their goal as well which is frustrating because multiple polls show Dems want a competitive primary. I expect Schumer whose e-mail list I never signed up for to endorse Hillary, but I expected better of DNC. They are supposed to be neutral. Not surprised with DWS at the helm though.
Morzer
@askew:
So the entity known as askew is really a collective?
Omnes Omnibus
@WaterGirl: I think you are reading too much into it. But I will walk away from this discussion now. We are beating a dead horse.
Morzer
@Gretchen:
http://alicublog.blogspot.kr/2015/04/a-week-of-shorter-rod-drehers.html
Roy Edroso nails Dreher with a merciless, beautiful precision.
sharl
@Morzer: Hahahah damn that’s awesome. I don’t get over to Edroso’s site nearly often enough, both for his posts and the very funny commenting crew he has over there.
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: I’m not sure which of my two points from the comment that you think I’m reading too much into. But walking away is fine.
pattonbt
Needs more old white dudes.
BillCoop4
@Davis X. Machina: Tough to talk about everything in 2 minutes without getting cluttered. This message was solid for what it is–a roll-out.
WaterGirl
@BillCoop4: That was snark from Davis X. Machina.
mclaren
Great vid. Sharp move to play off Hillary’s well-known rep. Nice to hear her come out of the box swinging about inequality.
If this is how Hillary’s campaign team is gonna handle the campaign, she’ll wipe the floor with Jeb.
mclaren
@Omnes Omnibus:
Hillary’s age and health issues are so much better than Jeb’s criminal record and politically radioactive crime family history that there’s no contest.
Personally, I can’t wait to see the Demo attack ads. Just show excerpts from Dubya’s 8 year Reign of Error and add the tagline: DO YOU REALLY WANT FOUR MORE YEARS OF T*H*I*S? The attack ads basically write themselves…
mclaren
@askew:
No, Hillary and Bill have already pushed out any competition for HIllary. They’ve been very effective in clearing the field by making it clear that people who split the vote Nader-style in Demo primaries this time will suffer the vengeance of the very long Clintonian memory.
Well, tough tit. That’s bare-knuckle politics. Deal with it. Obama did the same thing to potential Democratic primary opponents in 2012. Them’s the breaks in rough-and-tumble real world politics.
Sure we want a choice. This presidential campaign, we don’t get one. Sometimes we do get a choice, sometimes we don’t. Look at 1984. We wanted a choice back then. But Mondale had done the spadework, he was the pre-eminent frontrunner, he had amassed such a huge warchest, and he was so wired into the political establishment that no other Democrat had a chance of getting the nomination that year.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again — Hillary isn’t my favorite pol by a long shot, but given the lunacy of the Republican presidential candidates, if she runs I will damn sure vote for her.
mclaren
@WaterGirl:
Yes, I get the same kind of spam because I’m involved at the grassroots level in my area as a Demo field worker. I went door-to-door last election, I manned the phones, blah blah. This is the kind of politispam you get if you’re involved at the local grassroots level. Learn to like it.
The local Demo organizations have a tendency to cast every election as the “make or break moment” with breathless “We must support candidate [X] this time or [insert predictions of ultimate doom here].” Yeah, that’s the way it works with local Demo field organizations, in my experience. I don’t take it seriously.
Although those claims happened to be true in the 2008 presidential election.
I guess the local grassroots demo organizations learned their goddamn lesson the hard way from the 2000 (s)election.