NFL Open Thread

The NFL seems to have weathered the Ray Rice issue, and it appears that their main strategy was to put a ball gag in Roger Goodell and not allow him to speak in public.

Steelers are playing the Jets, which you think would be a gimme game, but other than the past two games, over the past couple years, the Steelers have been a very undisciplined team in which they seem perfectly content to play down to the level of their opponent and lose. At any rate, Go Steelers!

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    Baud says:

    Geaux Saints!

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    RobertDSC-iPhone 4 says:

    My Pats have a bye this week.

    I’m keeping an eye on the Niners in NO for a friend who is a big Niners fan.

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    burnspbesq says:

    And Arsenal fcuk up another winning position.

    Whoever owns the domain name “” is sitting on a valuable asset.

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    hilts says:


    Jets owner Woody Johnson was chairman of Mitt Romney’s campaign in New York in the 2012 race, so all I ask of your Steelers today is this: “RUN UP THE SCORE”. Here’s hoping that the Steelers give the Jets the biggest goddamn ass kicking of this NFL season in their own back yard and stick it to their buffoonish douchebag owner.

    I’d like to see Roethlisberger throw 8 touchdown passes, but I’ll settle for 6.

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    Tree With Water says:

    Reading reports of the Rice-Goodell hearings last week led me to conclude Goodell is cooked. If true, the reports make clear Goodell flat-out lied to NFL fans and the media about his knowledge of what happened in that elevator. Whether or not he also lied to the owners is a moot point. The institutional arrogance of the NFL is its achilles heel. Like the republican party, the NFL powers that be seem to believe if they say it’s true, people will believe it.

    I’ll go further. If Goodell keeps his job, it will serve as a distinct marker in the decline of the game’s popularity with the American people.

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    Bob In Portland says:

    Go, Niners. Plus, get ready for more war in Novorussia. The Ukies are shelling schoolchildren again.

    Oh, and here’s how it’s done in the Age of Oligarchs.

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    KG says:

    @Tree With Water: I, for one, am looking forward to the inevitable Bill Simmons victory lap

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    Svensker says:

    Hey, an actual Jets sack. Have you guys seen this “what happens to a guy walking around NY for 5 hours in a Jets T-shirt” vid?

    It’s really depressing being a Jets fan AND a Dem.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Tree With Water:
    But will there ever be any such decline, though? From what I see in these threads, the very people who denounce the sport for doing so little about violence on and off the field don’t seem any less supportive of their college and NFL teams once the season gets going.

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    Svensker says:

    Well, dang.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Bob In Portland: Totally fucking wrong all the time.

    1. Go Seahawks.

    2. Go Ukraine, crush the fascist legions of Putin the asswipe.

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    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again) says:

    The Bears still suck. Need more be said?

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Svensker: It seems that Jets fans have nothing to really do except cheer a lot during the draft.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Does anyone know why the teams in London have that red sticker or patch on their uniforms?

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN) says:

    @burnspbesq: Meanwhile, I might have to start saying nice things about Alan Pardew. I draw that line at doing anything but taking a steaming dump on Mike Ashley, though.

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    Svensker says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Well, apparently they’ve found a team more at sea than themselves. At least at the moment.

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN) says:

    Miami had 1 yard of total offense in the first quarter. Singular.

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN) says:

    Woah. J – E – T- S, Jets, Jets, Jets.

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    Hungry Joe says:

    “The NFL seems to have weathered the Ray Rice issue… “? Yeah, major surprise there. What did you think was going to happen — a lot of people stop watching pro football? Sponsors withdraw? A Goodell frog-march? Please.

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    JPL says:

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): The Falcons are ahead also but it’s only the first quarter. The Falcons are up only by 4 though.

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN) says:

    I follow the NFL because I’m a sports junkie and I’ll watch anything other than basketball. (And I even follow basketball even though I won’t watch it because there are a number of writers I enjoy reading who write about basketball, especially at Grantland.) On the other hand, the NFL makes next to no money off of me because I don’t go to their games, I don’t buy their merchandise, and I only watch their games at bars because I don’t own a TV.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @muddy: I thought they were playing in London, are they in Afghanistan?
    That red patch is driving me nuts. Not a word about it on the, or any news report.

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    Mike J says:

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN):

    and I only watch their games at bars because I don’t own a TV.

    Public display of televised games requires license from the NFL, which your local sports bar is making back from the price of your beer.

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN) says:

    @Mike J: Yeah, but I’d probably be here anyway. I’m here about four days a week regardless of the sports schedule.

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Tree With Water:
    HA! I love how you think there is some connection between Goodells honesty/behavior and his continued employment as the $50million a year figurehead of a nonprofit sausage factory.

    The fans do not care, they want to be lied to (minor caveat, some are only fussy when it is a player on their favorite team must understand there criminals and scum on their team so its best to be OK with other teams also). The wners sure as hell do not care. FOr Rog to lose his job would take something bigger

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    KG says:

    @Corner Stone: in the UK they were poppies for Veterans Day

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    JPL says:

    @Schlemazel: The loss of advertising would do it but that’s not gonna happen.

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    muddy says:

    @Corner Stone: Check the date and the year and maybe you will get it. They did this as well, amongst other things:

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    Corner Stone says:

    @KG: Thanks for the helpful response.
    It’s amusing that just now they explained why in the TV broadcast.
    I couldn’t tell they were supposed to be flowers. Guess I need a bigger TV.

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN) says:

    How much brain damage do NFL players do to themselves slapping their own heads after big plays?

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    Schlemazel says:

    Not as long as fans are OK with murderers and rapists on the home team.

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    KG says:

    @Corner Stone: no worries, I only knew about it because of Top Gear

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN):
    I know there have been a few cases, the one I remember was Jim McMahon was knocked cold slamming helmets with some other Bear after a TD. But he seems to be OK now, right?

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    burnspbesq says:

    @Tree With Water:

    If Goodell keeps his job, it will serve as a distinct marker in the decline of the game’s popularity with the American people.

    Dream on. The only thing that will kill the NFL is when the player pipeline dries up because parents refuse to allow their sons to start playing because of the risk of brain damage.

    The poster child for the ultimate demise of the NFL? His name is Jake Seau. He plays midfield for Duke.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Go Ukraine, crush the fascist legions of Putin the asswipe.

    Every time the people of Donetsk have to watch their hometown team play a “home” Champions League match in a stadium that’s closer to Berlin than to Donetsk because the separatists shelled the stadium, the support for the separatists erodes a little. If they make it to the knockout round, the separatists have a problem.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Dez Bryant is playing like a boss. And I don’t mean he’s standing around yelling at others and asking why his coffee is cold.

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    hilts says:


    It’s time for the Steelers to wake up and start kicking some Jet ass.

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    shelley says:

    Just got my grocery order and Shop Rite seems determined to give me free stuff. Last week was a big bottle of Tide I never ordered. This week it was a whole bag of somebody’s deli order. Cheese for tacos, chipolte ranch sauce, shrimp. Looks like they’re planning on having a Mexican night! Sad when somebody else’s groceries look more exciting than yours.
    (And yes, I called the store.)

    Switching to Braeburn apples from Honeycrisp. Damn, they’re getting expensive.

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN) says:

    Fucking Lions need to do something about all of these personal fouls. Even when they start winning it’s painful to be a fan of this team.

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    Corner Stone says:


    Switching to Braeburn apples from Honeycrisp. Damn, they’re getting expensive.

    What are you paying per lb for Honeycrisp? Those are my favorite and I eat as many as I can get while they’re in season (stocked at my grocers I mean).

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    max says:

    Steelers are playing the Jets, which you think would be a gimme game, but other than the past two games, over the past couple years, the Steelers have been a very undisciplined team in which they seem perfectly content to play down to the level of their opponent and lose.

    Jets 17, Steelers 3.


    [‘OK, back to digging a hole.’]

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    Tree With Water says:

    @KG: Yeah, no kidding. Simmons might end up running the whole show after the dust settled.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): I don’t know, but this guy is well on his way to NFL level brain damage, given what happened last night.

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN) says:

    Calvin Johnson does make some of that pain go away.

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    shelley says:

    @Corner Stone: I love ’em too. Right now t hey’re averaging 1.79 an apple. A bit too steep for me.

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    Tree With Water says:

    @Amir Khalid: I can only answer for myself. I’m pushing 60, and have been a hard core NFL fan my entire life. The truth about concussions did alter how I look at the game, and I figure that must hold true with others. That’s for starters. A recent beef of mine is the fact the games are increasingly fractured by TV time-outs. It’s like watching a string of commercials when a football game suddenly breaks out, and as suddenly disappears.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @shelley: Ok, I’m getting them on a weekly promo for $1.58 per lb.
    But I’ll buy them til they get into Rainier cherry territory. Which, down here, are like virgin sex prices for old men.

    ETA, JEEBUS cracker. Did you mean per apple?!
    Holy shit.

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN) says:

    Steelers have 4th and 1 inside the Jets 5 yard line down 17 points at the start of the 4th quarter. They’re kicking a field goal.

    Game over.

    Edit: And they miss the field goal. You get what you deserve.

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    Tree With Water says:

    @Schlemazel: I don’t think the game will disappear. Let me put it this way. I think the leagues TV ratings will suffer a pronounced decline in viewership over the next decade.

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    Steeplejack (tablet) says:

    @Tree With Water:

    What speakers did you get? (Following up on a thread from last week.)

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    shelley says:

    Another entry in the ‘Irony is truly dead’ column”

    George W. Bush Shrugs Off Family Dynasty: ‘You Have To Earn Your Way Into Politics’

    What does Dubya paint in, oils or acrylics? If oils, maybe he’s been inhaling too much turpentine fumes.

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    Tree With Water says:

    @burnspbesq: Seau’s suicide was the event that changed things for me. It took that story about his cracking his helmet wide open during a scrimmage to wake me up. The poor guy played for years afterward, when he should have been long retired.

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    Howard Beale IV says:

    WTF-are the Lions trying to give this game away?

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN) says:

    @Howard Beale IV: Yes. Yes, they are.

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    Mike J says:

    Anybody else getting a letterboxed HD signal on the SFNO game? HD aspect ratio picture shrunk with a border on all sides. Some commercials looked fine, some screwed in the same manner.

    Weird. Hope they fix it before the real game starts.

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    Mike J says:

    @Mike J: And now they fixed it. Don’t know if it was the network, the affiliate, or comcast.

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    Elmo says:

    STOKED for this Sunday! My beloved Chargers CAN’T LOSE!!

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    PsiFighter37 says:

    Knowing the Jets, this will be the start of a winning streak that will convince Woody Johnson to keep Sexy Rexy and that incompetent clown Idzik. Ugh.

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    Tree With Water says:

    @Steeplejack (tablet): If you’re asking about the speakers over which I’m hearing new sounds within old Beatle songs, the answer is Bose speakers for computers.

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    Howard Beale IV says:

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): And sure enough, they’re doing it.

    The Detroit Lions-Democrats of the NFL.

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    Quaker in a Basement says:

    Anybody got eyes on Cole? Today’s performance by the Steelers is apt to send him up the nearest tower with a sackful of weaponry.

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    max says:

    @Quaker in a Basement: Anybody got eyes on Cole? Today’s performance by the Steelers is apt to send him up the nearest tower with a sackful of weaponry.

    Or start drinkin’ again. Which would be bad.

    [‘Yay. New apple tree planted. Hope it makes it.’]

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN) says:

    @Howard Beale IV: Or maybe they just like making it exciting.

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    Howard Beale IV says:

    OMG-Lions TD to Theo Riddick with 29 seconds left. Cardiac KIttehs pull it off again-maybe.

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    4jkb4ia says:

    Um, I apologize to John for jinxing the game.

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    Howard Beale IV says:

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): And it’s done. Lions 20, The Fish 16.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @Tree With Water:

    FWIW, Jake is the real deal: 99th-percentile athleticism and a motor that never stops. He may play at short-stick defensive midfield as a freshman, and if he does, he and senior Will Haus have a chance to be the best pair of SSDMs that college lacrosse has ever seen (yes, better than Josh Hawkins and Pat Laconi of the 2012 Loyola championship team).

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    hilts says:


    I was all psyched to see the Steelers rub the Jets’ faces in shit today, so I don’t appreciate this piss poor performance.

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    Tree With Water says:

    @burnspbesq: That doesn’t surprise me, acorns and trees and such. His father was one of the best I ever saw play.

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    KG says:

    @Tree With Water: the commercial thing drives me crazy in football and basketball, baseball isn’t much better either. it’s funny, everyone complains about length of games but nobody says “hey, maybe we should cut down on a couple of tv time outs.” wonder why that would be

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    Corner Stone says:

    @KG: Every fan says that.

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    hilts says:

    @Tree With Water: @KG:

    Would be nice if the NFL and MLB could handle commercials in the same way as the FIFA World Cup.

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN) says:

    Only one drive but the Giants just got run over.

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    Tree With Water says:

    @KG: The big difference being in baseball there’s no time clock. I watched every pitch (or nearly) of that 18 inning Giants vs. Nats playoff game, and it ebbed and flowed in its natural way, immune to dictates a running clock imposes..

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    JPL says:

    OT a few days ago dopealope recommended Dean Spanley on netflix streaming. When I googled Balloon Juice and dean spanley, several commentors including Mom Sense mentioned it before. Just wanted to say thanks. I watched it last night and will probably watch it again.

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    p.a. says:

    If the pipeline from pee wee on up dries up it will affect the game but it will take a generation. I just don’t see the MFL (Manning Football League; whenever he gets his ass kicked they change the rules to make passing easier) going the way of boxing.

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    hilts says:


    Any film, with the rare exception of Supergirl, which includes Peter O’Toole in the cast is worth checking out.

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    Steve from Antioch says:

    They had everybody wear pink to cure tit cancer so it’s all good.

    No matter how many women get beaten or how many dogs get tortured or killed or how many people end up with swiss cheese for brains, the NFL will keep chugging along as long as mouth breathing idiots continue to watch it.


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    Victory says:

    Mike Tomlin is 1-8 on the road versus teams %.200 or worse.

    He has to go.

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    Bonnie says:

    America has other sports that are even more violent than the NFL. In particular, any kind of one-on-one fighting, e.g., boxing, UFC stuff, are essentially two people who go in a ring to beat the living daylights out of the other person. Football has a lot of variety in how to score that includes also a lot of strategy. I personally would prefer there wasn’t the attitude from the defensive players that they have to maim/kill the opponents. But, they certainly aren’t going to listen to me. When it comes to college football, there is nothing available to women that will get them a college education. Additionally, I don’t see men saying, “gee, I don’t think I will play football because I might get hurt.” I have been watching football since I was about nine; and, I am pushing 70. I still remember some of those old games and teams and wish we could go back; but, we can’t. Ray Rice probably would have cold-cocked his girlfriend no matter what profession he worked in. It just might not have been in an elevator of a very expensive hotel. Men who beat up women come from all walks of life–not only football. And, it is too bad that every woman who gets beat up by her spouse/boyfriend/S.O. doesn’t get this amount of attention.

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    gian says:

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN):
    If suh played in the NHL he’d spend a lot of time eating through a straw. Didn’t watch this game but his fuck the rules I’m going to send you to the hospital style… well I’m surprised he hasn’t been career ended via a dirty play

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    mr_gravity says:

    @shelley: After he heard the election results W put down the paintbrush and climbed out of his spiderhole. “Finally! It looks like the coast is clear. He, he, he.”

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