I Like To Think Of This As The Universe Expressing An Opinion About Today’s Incarnation Of The Party Of Lincoln

I mean, this picture sure seems to make a cosmic viewpoint clear:

Keyhole_Nebula_-_Hubble_1999 crop

You may consider this an open thread.

Image:  NASA, The Hubble Heritage Team (AURA/STScI) – Space Telescope Science Institute, Keyhole Nebula, crop of the feature known as “God’s Birdie,” 1999.






98 replies
  1. 1
    Ben Cisco says:

    Absentee ballot completed. Trying to send Kay Hagan back to the Senate and Thom Tillis back to his house.

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    Violet says:

    Trying to decide if life is worth living. Not sure it is.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    I was just listening again to the marvelous YouTube video where Gilbert Gottfried gives Fifty Shades of Grey the reading it truly deserves. I’m not so keen on audiobooks, but if that one actually existed I’d be happy to buy it.

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    Barbara says:

    @Violet: Oh god, I know that feeling well. But it passes.

    Hope you feel better soon.

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    Mike in NC says:

    @Ben Cisco: Send Thom Tillis to the outhouse to clean it out. Seems like the only job he’s qualified for.

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    katie5 says:

    Listened to Steve Kornacki subbing for Maddow last night. I think he’s gunning for Chuck Todd’s job. Kornacki: “I’m quoting Rand Paul here. Shouldn’t we be more concerned about the spread of Ebola in the US?” That and the smarmy way he treats politics makes me think he’ll be doing Face the Nation one day.

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    Waynski says:

    @Violet:

    Trying to decide if life is worth living. Not sure it is.

    I seriously hope that’s snark.

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    Mike in NC says:

    Is “Hubble Heritage Team” something run by the lunatic Jim DeMint?

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    Mike in NC says:

    @katie5: Bob Schieffer appears to be 115 years old but still going strong!

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    Emma says:

    @Violet: It is. Truly it is. Outliving the bastards is the ultimate pleasure.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Violet:

    Woah! As you know, this crew has pretty big shoulders (and surprisingly often, good advice). Speak up if you need to vent, sob, gripe, or carry on like a two-year-old.

    In the meantime, here are some {{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}.

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    raven says:

    @Violet: Remember when I was going to get my shoulder operated on? If you hadn’t questioned it I would have had unnecessary and debilitating surgery. Just a small reason to hang in there, we need you.

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    MomSense says:

    @Violet:

    Sending you big hugs, Violet. We all really value you here. Besides you have to stay here at Balloon-Juice since you are my health guru!! You and Mnemosyne gave me some good advice about my cholesterol and that it could be my thyroid. It was my thyroid but I wouldn’t have known which tests to ask for to get a diagnosis without your help.

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    Violet says:

    @Barbara: Thanks.
    @SatanicPanic: No
    @Waynski: It is not.

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    jayboat says:

    @Violet:
    We all have those moments, and when they come around it’s good to have moments of Gilbert Gottfried (see link above) to remind us that life is but a joke. 8-]

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    Violet says:

    @Emma: Not worried about “the bastards” and don’t care what they think anyway.

    @SiubhanDuinne: Thanks. Not sure I can do that. But thanks.

    @raven: Glad it was helpful for you.

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    MomSense says:

    @Violet:

    I’m so sorry, Violet. Is there anything we can do to help?? You are such a kind and helpful presence here so please do let us know how we can support you. I wish I could send you some pro-biotics for the soul!!

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    Violet says:

    @MomSense: Glad it was helpful. There are plenty who know about thyroid so I’m sure someone else can help.

    @jayboat: Since life is a joke, what is the point? Why be here?

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    katie5 says:

    @Mike in NC: Amazing guy, just in terms of stamina.

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    burnspbesq says:

    Just downloaded con-law rockstar Erwin Chemerinsky’s new book, “The Case Against the Supreme Court,” for weekend reading. Erwin was Judge Nelson’s last hire as Dean of USC Law, before Reagan nominated her for the Ninth Circuit, and she hit a five-run home run.

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    MomSense says:

    @Violet:

    I’m sure someone else can help.

    Nope. Part of why you are so trusted is because it is so clear that you are a kind and good person. I don’t usually take advice from people on the internet!

    I don’t know what is happening in your life right now and can understand why you don’t want to share it here. Just please find a helper you trust. You are important to us and we care about you. I care about you.

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    skerry says:

    @Violet: Talk to somebody. Call a hotline if you don’t have anyone in your life. Talk to us here.

    I’ve been there. I still have “suicidal ideation” from time to time.

    Is there something in particular that’s going on right now? Or is this something that you’ve been considering for a while?

    Hang in there. You are valued.

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    lamh36 says:

    Good morning.

    So I’m listening to Tom Joyner Morning Show they were talking about the guy in Ebola in DFW and how the guy went to ER at Presby D and based on his symptoms at the ER and sent him home with antibodies, even though he told them about his recent travels to West Africa. They speculated that it might have to do with his insurance, ya know whether he had it or not and/or what kind? And then i got to thinking hmmm i wonder too. I used to work at the big public hospital in DFW. Public hospitals wouldn’t turn anyone away even before the ACA. Ive also worked for a private hospital and i know what these private hospitals do.

    Course you know who will be blamed…ACA, even though Perry et al refused to expand medicare rolls to increase the number of people with insurance.

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    @Violet: Been there. Thought it wasn’t. Found out it actually is, for the most part, even if some of it sucks and other parts bore me to tears.

    I know I can’t change how you’re feeling, but I hope you’ll hold off on making any final determinations here, talk to someone who can help, and give that person a chance. It’s worth a shot. Trust me. You don’t have to enjoy it — just please drag yourself in that general direction for a while and see how it goes.

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    JustRuss says:

    @Violet: Been there, and it sucks. Took me a couple years and therapy to get through it. Please don’t give up.

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    Thread needs Secret service kitteh . Also some thoughts on the sequester.

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    Ben Cisco says:

    @Mike in NC: And yet I’m sure he’d find a way to screw THAT up too.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Violet: I wonder about that too sometimes, and so far, my answer is yes. Remember this thread? There were some good thoughts in the comments. I hope you feel better soon.

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    Punchy says:

    This shit seems to be spreading, and….WOW….where does it end? Do they start editing The Devil’s Work out of math textbooks? Do English textbooks get audited to ensure only Jesus-friendly vocab is taught?

    Peak wingnut has approached school boards in red states. This is going to get much, much worse, IMO.

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    sparrow says:

    @Mike in NC: Am I being too grumpy if I say the Heritage Team is a group that takes pretty but fairly pointless pictures with a one-of-a-kind resource that would be better used for real science? (Answer: yes. Also get off my lawn.)

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    ruemara says:

    @Violet: please don’t say that. There’s been too much of that already this week. Let us know if you need help.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @sparrow:
    Are you sure that that’s all it does? It seems to me that a picture like this would be very informative to the astronomers who have the tools to work out what they can say about the universe.

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    burnspbesq says:

    Jeez, the nerve on this asshole.

    http://nypost.com/2014/10/01/j.....-sentence/

    G’head, Judge Berman. Lose your cool and re-sentence him. You know you want to.

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    On a less serious, more trivial note, Iggy’s at the vet for his heartworm treatment. Seems it’s going about how I expected.

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    Tom Levenson says:

    @Violet: Adding to the chorus: you and your life are valuable to this community, and I’m sure to many others that you touch IRL. That is something “worth” the sometimes very difficult task of living, or so ISTM. If we can help here, we will.

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    @sparrow: The pretty pictures may actually inspire someone to do real science, don’t you think?

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    @Punchy: That is not good, wingnuts want to take us all to the Dark Ages.

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    skerry says:

    Wash Post is reporting that DOJ will not press civil rights violation charges against George Zimmerman in the killing of Trayvon Martin. Not good.

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    JPL says:

    @Violet: It is. Please share with someone your feelings. Valuable commentors are few and far between and we need you.

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    JPL says:

    @Punchy: Whitewashing American history has been going on for a long time. Folks my age might remember Lindbergh in a positive light rather than as the anti-Semitic that he was. Don’t get me started on Custer…

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    Shortstop says:

    Violet: it’s worth it and so are you.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Violet:

    You need to call somebody IRL. Like, now. Therapist, helpline, friend, whatever. You’ve been under a lot of stress that you’ve had to handle by yourself and you’re only human.

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    El Caganer says:

    @burnspbesq: That takes….I don’t know. Brass balls doesn’t begin to cover it.

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    dmsilev says:

    @Amir Khalid: Yes and no. A pretty picture of that sort is, in and of itself, of little scientific value. The raw data that went into that picture is a different story. Typically, a telescope like Hubble is used to take a series of pictures of the same object, changing the filter in front of the camera for each image. The different filters are used to focus in on specific wavelength ranges, which allow studying things like how much dust vs. how much hydrogen gas there is in a particular nebula. If you take enough pictures in enough wavelength bands, there’s enough information to reconstruct a color image, but it’s almost a side effect.

    I say ‘almost’ because PR is important. Hubble was expensive to build and is expensive to run. Convincing people that it’s worthwhile to build and run something like that takes real work.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @ruemara: BTW how are you doing? What is happening with your company?

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    JPL says:

    @Karen in GA: When I adopted Mr. Finch, he had been treated for heartworm. The shelter wanted him retested after six months. I brought him to a VCA vet nearby and they waited two days to let me know he was fine. He certainly doesn’t have problems except for those of the behavior kind.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    Violet: Hope you feel better soon. How can BJers help you?

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    @JPL: Two days? Did they send the blood to a lab? Because then it would sound about right. Blood done in the office should only be a few minutes.

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    BTW has anyone heard of Higgs Boson’s mate? I haven’t seen him around, off late.

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    JPL says:

    @Karen in GA: Yes but didn’t tell me that is what they were doing. Finch goes to Alpharetta Animal Hospital now for his shots. I’ve been using that practice for decades but decided to try to the vet closer to me.

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    Citizen_X says:

    @dmsilev:

    it’s almost a side effect.

    That. If Hubble projects are like any other science, they’ll take thousands of images, in varying wavelengths, and recombine and process the images in multiple ways. Some of the resulting work will be useful or enlightening, much will be redundant, but, almost inevitably, out will pop a few images of staggering beauty. Some of those may even be informative!

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    raven says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: nope, they have both been absent

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    Paul in KY says:

    @Violet: It is. If only to post on Balloon Juice :-)

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    the Conster says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    The last I heard of him was Mary G saying that he was in a bad way again. That was a few weeks ago, and haven’t heard further, but I’ve been off the grid myself a lot lately. I’m worried.

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    Tenar Darell says:

    @Violet: You don’t know me, but please go see someone. To me, you sound way too much like Allie Brosch’s descriptions of her depression right now.

    It’s clear this community loves you. Even if you’re cloaked in your nym your compassion has bled through, and I’m sure that also is true in the real world. I’m so sad just reading your comments today. Please go see someone, now.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @the Conster: I’ve seen HBM posting at Booman’s place fairly recently.

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    the Conster says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    Oh good. You know who else I worry about and haven’t seen in these parts for a long time? Arguingwithsignposts aka AWS, who also had a bad spell that the BJ community helped with one night a few years ago. Things were much better with him, then nothing.

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    Kathleen says:

    @Violet: {{{{hugs}}}}} I always appreciate your insights. You strike me as a thoughtful, caring, intelligent, articulate person.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Violet:

    There for you, Violet.

    Wish I could pour you a glass of wine and provide a confidential ear IRL.

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    sparrow says:

    @Amir Khalid:@schrodinger’s cat: Well, as an astronomer, I can tell you that these pictures don’t really tell you a whole lot we didn’t already know about star-forming regions, etc. BUT, they are pretty, and SC has a good point about inspiration. I don’t really have anything against them except that Hubble is a REALLY over-subscribed resource, and we’ve already taken tons of pretty pictures. You start to hit diminishing returns. But as I said I’m really just being grumpy. Carry on…

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    raven says:

    @the Conster: I just checked in on one of his blogs, he seems fine.

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    Another Holocene Human says:

    So, I got this info off wikipedia, take that with a grain of salt, but apparently some eCig manufacturers, not exactly paragons of virtue, public health, and transparency, are putting diacetyl in their products.

    That’s the stuff that makes sour cream and butter tasty, as well as enhancing (or ruining) some wines and beers. It’s also used in artificial butter flavor but it turns out that, funny story, huffing it causes a catastrophic lung condition sometimes known as “popcorn worker’s lung” and it’s been removed from a lot of microwave popcorn products in the US as a result.

    So it’s being added to some eCig flavors … to be huffed … and to be 2nd hand huffed where vaping is allowed.

    Personally, I don’t care if y’all vape, but do that shit outside. Vaping fumes INCLUDE NICOTINE WHICH IS FUCKING TOXIC. I am allergic to that shit … don’t tell me the bus is well ventilated, it’s not. I had to stop a bus once because some kid decided to apply liquid bandaid, which is like 90% acetone, on the way to class. At least it wasn’t nail polish, cause I kinda sympathized instead of blowing up, but jeezus. No, I can’t breathe. Hell, I’m taking medication every day over this shit. Please stop trying to kill me. Thanks.

    Sorry, didn’t mean to rant at smokers. I’m glad that vaping has been a positive so for many people I know. I just don’t like the whole, “It’s diffs, I can ignore all rules now!” or trying to BS that all the toxic was in the additives or this la la land ecigs don’t have additives a ha ha ha. No.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Violet:

    I always feel like I don’t have anything good to say in these situations, but I will say this: I value your presence, Violet, and would miss you if you were gone. Please get some help and find some sustenance.

    I reread that thread from a year ago that Betty Cracker linked. There is a lot of good stuff in there. And it brought up a lot of strong emotions related to things I have been working through.

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    Another Holocene Human says:

    Nicotine IS the suspect agent in most of the disease processes associated with smoking which means that blowing nicotine containing vapors around in an enclosed environment has only reduced some of the harms, not eliminated them. I will say this, people vaping outside the front door of a bar is far better than the alternative. Plus the little eCigs with the glowing ends look cool. They remind me of the cigarettes in Signal to Noise. Did anyone else read that series because I gave up halfway through? First book was awesome (in my mind), though.

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    the Conster says:

    @raven:

    Oh good!! Thanks. All accounted for.

    @Violet: I wish I could impress upon you how much it matters to us here that you keep on keeping on. I have no good advice for you – there’s a bunch of people upthread who know more than I do about such things. I spent the day once at Dana Farber in Boston with a friend who was getting cancer treatment. I thought I had problems, then realized I didn’t, really – I did, but nothing like life and death. The sick children and the desperate attempts by their parents to not look terrified snapped me out of it. Maybe that’s just some anodyne bullshit to someone who is really suffering depression, but I’ve never forgotten to remember that day.

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    Iowa Old Lady says:

    @Violet: I wish words made more of a difference, but they’re all we have to give at the moment. Please stay with us.

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    Another Holocene Human says:

    @Violet: I don’t know if this has happened to you before, Violet, but that is your brain saying that it’s in the middle of a chemical storm.

    I would recommend cutting out any activities that cause anxiety, but you may want to confide in some people you are really close to that you trust. Tell them to forgive your failings right now but you may just need to lean on them for some social time without warning for the next few weeks. But also you might have to drop out of other plans b/c you are going through some things. If that’s not possible or even if it is I totally recommend kitten cams and puppy cams. If you know anyone who needs dog sitting right now that also works.

    The real way out of depression is a boring combo of regular, nutritious meals, consistent sleep schedule (but don’t lie there, insomnial), regular exercise, which basically means walking briskly 30-60mins daily at least 2hrs before bedtime. All of these things are tough because you don’t even want to get out of bed. During my last bad crash I actually didn’t fight it, I let it happen for a week or so, basically treated it like a cold. I did go to work but on my days off I pretty much slept, loved on my cat, and watched soothing videos. I did see a therapist once a week. They’re trained professionals and can kind of correct the disordered thinking. Depression both drives and is driven by disordered thinking.

    If you start thinking it would be easier not to wake up or certain objects start looking scary and take on a new meaning I would call your local crisis hotline. To be honest the counselors, who are typically volunteers, will probably be relieved to talk to a vanilla major depression episode instead of domestic violence/rape survivor/endangered minor and all the other scary, traumatizing stuff they have to process.

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    Another Holocene Human says:

    @the Conster: I know you mean well, but don’t ever tell someone with suicidal ideation to “snap out of it”.

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    the Conster says:

    @Another Holocene Human:

    Well, I did say I had no good advice.

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    rikyrah says:

    Violet,

    Life is worth living. It is. It really is.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    I have been concerned. I think there was a crisis a couple of months ago, a cryptic comment from Mary G, then nothing since then. Although I think Mary G made a couple of (unrelated) comments in a thread a few days ago.

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    Paul in KY says:

    @Another Holocene Human: Nicotine is a poison, used by plants to deter insects.

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    Another Holocene Human says:

    @Violet: Life is a joke. Laugh. You don’t feel like laughing right now, and that is because of chemistry, not because of what is going on outside your brain. If you have to deal with enough shit, though, your brain’s coping mechanisms end up here, in the brainstorm. All hands on deck, this is a neurochemical and psychological emergency!

    Depression can be a time of creativity as well. It’s possible that whatever tactics you have been using against adversity in your life are not working at all. Instead of quitting, maybe it’s time to shelf the tactics and think of a different approach. Sometimes we get really frustrated with something not working but feel like we “ought to” persist and these feelings of sadness and withdrawal are our bodies’ way of saying “No. Stop. Just stop.”

    There’s some wisdom there. Listen to it. Something to let go of. To shed.

    IMO sometimes your mind and body are just exhausted and there’s nothing wrong with shutting out the world and sleeping for a week. Our culture tries to shame us for this but we’re the most depressed and anxious people there ever were! And sleep deprived! Bump that, bump the landlord, take care of yourself first.

    Affix your oxygen mask before assisting others.

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    cleek says:

    i saw some roadsided signs near my house that say “Republaiken” on them.

    Clay Aiken is running for Congress in one of the districts in the area and i thought someone was putting up signs trying to confuse voters about which party Aiken belongs to. but, no. those are actual Aiken signs.

    he’s trying to appeal to rural NC Republicans.

    good luck!

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    MomSense says:

    @Steeplejack:

    I’ve “seen” HBG at Booman and LGF.

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    Another Holocene Human says:

    @katie5: I have trouble calling him Steve Kornakky, I keep wanting to call him Kornatski.

    The problem, though, with trying to “correct” ethnic names back is that you can get it wrong. Not only did I have some teachers try to do that they helpfully “fixed” the spelling to match their interpretation … oh well, now that I live in the South everybody tries to turn it into an English surname … sigh.

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    Another Holocene Human says:

    @cleek: I saw a Thom Tillis sign planted in front of a Wrong Way road sign. It was all over twitter yesterday but google is not my friend right now. Somebody posted it and included his campaign manager “You had one job.”

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    El Caganer says:

    @cleek: Now if it was ‘Republikraken,’ he might really have something. Maybe not in NC, though.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Violet:

    With your background, you might find this book valuable: The Mood Cure, by Julia Ross.

    [. . .] a prescriptive plan designed to relieve a variety of ailments from seasonal disorders, stress, irritability and depression. Ross believes that many of these [. . .] disorders can be relieved through a change in diet and nutritional supplements. Readers are asked to first determine which of four “false moods” they suffer from: a dark cloud, blahs, stress or too much sensitivity. [. . .] Armed with their survey scores, readers can then turn to the appropriate chapter to learn which diets and supplements will be most helpful. Particularly reassuring are the author’s detailed explanations of why she advises a particular strategy. While Ross is an advocate for nutritional supplements, she provides a sound overview for all her recommendations.

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    shortstop says:

    A couple of days ago, I commented here about three V-22 Ospreys going directly over our building, which is in the usual flight path Marine One takes from O’Hare to near Hyde Park when Obama’s in town. I hadn’t realized that they were associated with Marine One, but figured it out that day.

    So the president’s here today (but using the Gary airport) and we keep looking up from our work to watch Marine One (plus the additional, fake Marine One) go by escorted by an Osprey. In six years of watching Obama’s comings and goings over Chicago, we’ve never seen a big, badass military plane in that entourage. Never.

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    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q) says:

    @Violet: I hope you can get to a place where that’s no longer a question. Please share that thought with a physician or a helpline, or both. Thyroid trouble can wreak havoc on your brain, so that it totally seems like life may not be all that and a bag of chips.

    @Another Holocene Human: Please remember that depression is a medical condition, and while regular sleep, exercise and a healthy diet are essential, there may be other required interventions. Sleeping it off as one might a head cold will not always work.

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    JPL says:

    @shortstop: I’ve heard that they are already canceling flights because of an approaching storm. Stay safe.

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    Why is it whenever one finds vote fraud it ends up being the Republicans doing fraudulentin’ ?

    Here it’s the Arkansas Republic AG candidate and an ex-Huckabee legal aide who had her voter registration cancelled because she’s registered to vote in multiple locations.

    You’d think a candidate for attorney general and former legal aide to the governor would know you can’t do that ….

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    shortstop says:

    @shortstop: What the hell do I know about these things? I thought Ospreys’ armament was for more than show, but now see it’s very much incidental to the transport role. Okay, I’ll put this down to the president volunteering to haul very many buttons and t-shirts to the Quinn fundraiser. ;)

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    Josie says:

    @Violet: I can so relate to this feeling. You must be a member of the sandwich generation. I seem to remember that your parents have had health issues lately and you’ve be wearing yourself out taking care of them with not much help from immediate family in daily chores. Also, you once mentioned that certain meds cause you feelings of depression. Please talk to your family and ask for whatever help you need. Don’t suffer in silence. I have been so grateful for the help and advice you have offered to me several times, and I know that others feel the same way. We’ve never met, but I care about you and hope that things get better for you.

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    Botsplainer says:

    @Violet:

    Is there someone that any of us could call for you?

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    WereBear says:

    @Violet: Maybe it will be tomorrow.

    {Violet}

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    StringOnAStick says:

    My BIL is refusing to go to his radiation therapy appointments on the days when his girlfriend isn’t there to take him (she has a job in another city). The radiation affects hit full force last weekend, and his feet are so blistered that he can only get around by crawling, even though they are using the lowest dose. He refuses to use the hospital’s free van service to get him to his appointments. He says the pain meds don’t help, and refused our offer to hire a home health care aide because he “doesn’t want anyone to hear him screaming in pain”.

    Yesterday we offered to pay his girlfriend her exact same salary to live there and take care of him and his elderly, semi-senile dad, something she has offered to do anyway, but he refused. he says it “wouldn’t be good in the long run” because he doesn’t want her thinking he’s in a committed relationship with her. He doesn’t seem to realize that there isn’t going to be any “long run” if he doesn’t go to his prescribed radiation therapy.

    We really didn’t realize how serious his OCD issues were until we were so involved in moving him and my husband’s father to their new home last spring; maybe it has gotten worse. He is so stressed by the cancer diagnosis in general, and when he is in his doctor’s office he is so stressed out that I doubt he hears or comprehends half of what he’s being told. I suspect he’s not consistently taking his pain meds (because all pain meds, even aspirin is “weakness” in his eyes), and this is why he’s in such pain. Breakthrough pain happens if you aren’t consistent, and it takes even more pain meds to get it back under control; I’m sure he’s been told this, but he didn’t hear it.

    He keeps refusing my husband’s offers to come out to help, to hire someone; something, anything, but no – stubborn refusal all the way. His OCD is such that anything that overwhelms him is responded to by just ignoring it; we’ve seen it time and again in other matters. I guess our next step is to ask him when he wants us to contact hospice, when he wants us to move their dad to assisted living out here near us, and what he wants us to do with the cat he is choosing to leave behind because he won’t treat an easily curable form of cancer. I don’t know how else to get his attention. The doctor isn’t going to come to their house and drag him to therapy.

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    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q) says:

    @StringOnAStick: Yipes. That sounds like a trial for all of you. I wish i had some answers.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @StringOnAStick:

    Is there any way to get him admitted to the hospital for his treatment even though it’s supposed to be outpatient? He probably would never speak to you again, but at least he’d be alive.

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    @Violet: Only you can answer the question of whether life is worth living. But one thing I learned from spending the winter in Antarctica 7,000 miles away from anyone who loved me, is that the midst of depression is the exact wrong time to make serious life choices.

    Stories help. Activity helps. Friends help. A clear head helps. Excercising enough that you sleep as soon as you hit the mattress helps. Good food helps. Fun helps. How long has it been since you went outside and watched a sunrise? How long has it been since you took a walk in the woods? How long has it been since you hugged a puppy? How long has it been since you read your favorite book? Since you watched your favorite movie? Since you listened to your favorite band’s best album all the way through? Since you cooked your favorite meal and shared it with friends?

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @Southern Beale: But, but, but… she’s moved several times and keeps forgetting to cancel the last voter registration and she’s just sooooooooo busy.

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    satby says:

    @Violet: Violet… I hope it helps a bit, reading how much we all love you and having you here in our virtual lives. But please call a crisis line, or your (or your parents, even) doctor and tell them what you’ve told us. Or as a last resort 911, even if it means that you might spend 3 days as the reluctant guest of the local hospital. Because this crisis and the hopeless feeling will pass, as long as you stay around so that it can. All things pass, this will too, but get help if you need to so that you can wave goodbye when it goes.

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