Who wins this battle of the Southern Cone?
I promised to include some recipes for popular dishes for each country in the round of 16 games. Here’s one of my favorite dishes in Brazil: Tutu a Mineira:
Making Tutu à Mineira
* 1 and 1/2 lb. black beans, already cooked
* 1 Linguiça Calabresa, brazilian smoked sausage
* lamb chops (optional)
* 4 hard boiled eggs
* bacon
* dried meat
* garlic
* olive oil
* manioc (cassava) flour
method of preparation
Procedure:
1) Let’s start by cooking your black beans the way you like, but with these differences in that this dish requires the beans to be seasoned with some salt, and the beans must cook with the smoked sausage. to serve 4 people 1/2k use black beans that has been properly cooked with a piece of smoked sausage, a small piece of bacon and other dried meat – at your discretion.
2) Now that the beans are baked and tender, we add plenty of garlic and a little olive oil; take the pot away from the stove and coarsely mash them into a thick broth with a bean masher or fork, leaving about one quarter of the beans unmashed. Return this broth to the pan, off the stove, and add gradually cassava flour until the desired thickness is reached, traditionally the Tutu is relatively thick; keep warm.
3) In a different pan, cook the rest of the bacon; slice the bacon to small bits and add to the black beans. Now fry the lamb chops, and slice the hard boiled eggs in slices;
Prepare each individual plates, with some Tutu bean sauce, sausages, lamb chops and arranging in an elegant way the slices of hard boiled eggs.
As for Chile, I had this dish at a now closed Chilean restaurant called Pomaire in New York: Pastel de Choclo:
Pastel de Choclo (Chilean Corn Pie)
Makes 12 servings
*Recipe Notes: Be sure to watch the pastel de choclo closely while broiling in the final step, as it goes from golden brown to burned quickly! This makes a fantastic freezer meal! Follow steps 1 through 4, then tightly cover the baking dish and freeze. When you are ready to cook the pastel de choclo, remove the dish from the freezer and let it thaw overnight in the refrigerator, then cook as directed in step 5.
For the beef and onion filling:
1 pound ground beef
2 large onions, chopped
2 teaspoons olive oil
2 garlic cloves, finely chopped
1 tablespoon beef bouillon powder
1/2 teaspoon garlic salt
1 1/2 teaspoons paprika
1/2 teaspoon ground cumin
1/2 teaspoon dried oregano
For the corn topping:
40 ounces corn kernels (thawed, if frozen)
1 (14.75 ounce) can creamed corn
3/4 teaspoon dried basil
3 tablespoons vegetable shortening
1 1/2 teaspoons beef bouillon powder
1/2 teaspoon fine grain sea salt
2 tablespoons raisins, soaked in warm water
2 large hardboiled eggs, cut into thin slices
3 ounces black olives, sliced
Granulated sugar, to lightly sprinkle over the top
1. Preheat the oven to 350 degrees Fahrenheit. Lightly grease a 13×9-inch baking dish.
2. Make the beef and onion filling: Saute the ground beef and chopped onions in the 2 teaspoons of olive oil over medium high heat in a large saute pan. When the beef has all browned, add the garlic, 1 tablespoon beef bouillon powder, garlic salt, paprika, ground cumin, and oregano. Continue to cook until the meat is cooked through, then taste for seasoning and add salt if necessary. Then reduce the heat to medium low and simmer until the onions are very soft, and no crunch remains, then remove the pan from the heat.
3. Make the corn topping: Put the corn kernels, creamed corn, and dried basil in a blender in batches and pulse until the corn is pureed, but not completely smooth. Pour the corn puree into a large pot and add the shortening, 1 1/2 teaspoons beef bouillon powder, and fine grain sea salt. Cook the corn mixture over medium-high heat until it comes to a boil. Once it comes to a boil, continue letting it cook for 5 more minutes, stirring constantly to prevent it from burning. After the five minutes, remove the pot from the heat.
4. Assemble the pastel de choclo: Cover the bottom of the greased baking dish with a thin layer of the corn topping. Spread all of the beef filling over the corn layer. Drain the raisins soaking in the warm water. Scatter the sliced hardboiled eggs, olives, and drained raisins over the meat filling. Finish by topping everything with the remaining corn topping. Use the tines of a fork to make grooves in the top of the corn topping, then sprinkle a light layer of granulated sugar over the top.
5. Bake the pastel de choclo: Bake the pastel de choclo in the preheated oven for 30 minutes to heat through (bubbles should be breaking the surface on the sides of the baking dish). Then change the oven to broil (high broil) and cook until the top of the pastel de choclo is golden brown. Remove the baking dish from the oven and let it sit for 10 minutes before serving.
raven
My friends from Colombia are coming over. I suspect they will be late for the first game!
raven
Don’t forget it’s on ABC today.
SRW1
Very Austria-Hungarian that national anthem of Chile.
How confident are you that the Selecao will deliver today, Randinho?
I gather that whistling during the acapella part of the Brazilian national anthem is from supporters of Chile.
Morzer
Chile and Colombia to win today.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@SRW1: i honestly don’t know. I think Chile’s defense is lacking a bit of speed and may have problems with Neymar.
I think Brazil matches up well against Chile physically.
Amir Khalid
it’s the eve of Ramadhan. Quite a few of the teams in the last 16 have Muslim players: France, Germany, Nigeria, Belgium, and Algeria whose squad are all Muslims.
Alex S.
This is going to get ugly. But Brazil should prevail.
raven
@Amir Khalid: What impact will that have do you think?
burnspbesq
And among all the guys who play for the world’s biggest clubs, you have one guy each from Toronto FC and Nottingham Forest.
raven
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: No they don’t, 4pm today.
Anoniminous
Univision. The only way to watch.
SRW1
Uh, Uh, veeery physical beginning. And we kind of know that Howard Webb isn’t the most impressive in dealing with that.
raven
Today, 4:00 PM on ABC • Round of 16
Estádio Maracanã, Rio de Janeiro
Uruguay
vs
Colombia
Anoniminous
@raven:
No bacon cheeseburgers during half-time, for starts.
burnspbesq
@raven:
I’m sure they can find a sympathetic mullah who will issue a fatwa excusing the players from fasting between sunrise and sunset during Ramadan.
Amir Khalid
Brazil’s Seleçao haven’t lost at home in 12 years. Nice record they have there. Shame if anything happened to it.
Anoniminous
@Anoniminous:
Bastards blocked it and FYWP won’t let me edit.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@raven: my bad. I deleted the comment.
Amir Khalid
@burnspbesq:
That; and from what I’ve read, there should be no problem for a Muslim athlete performing in the daytime if he takes care to rehydrate adequately at night.
ETA: If a Muslim is not able to fast because of say, illness or work-related reasons (this would certainly apply to the professional footballers playing in the World Cup), they can always make up the fasting days before next Ramadhan.
SRW1
BTW, why did they stay with the 1 pm kick off? As there are now only two games per day to stagger for TV instead of three, they could have opted for an at least somehwat later time, No? European TV audiences?
raven
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: Nuthin but a thang!
burnspbesq
Chile looks well organized so far. Jara is likely to be the focus of a lot of Brazilian attacks. You don’t see guys of the quality of Oscar or Dani Alves playing for Reading or Middlesborough.
HumboldtBlue
Hulk is aptly named
burnspbesq
Brazil is not subtle about working Howard Webb.
HumboldtBlue
There’s Neymar’s speed again st the Chile defense
burnspbesq
Dang.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
Vai Brasil!
Alex S.
Chile needs to injure Neymar if they want to win.
SRW1
@burnspbesq:
And even less subtle working the Chilean goal.
HumboldtBlue
Killer goal
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@Alex S.: they’re trying.
burnspbesq
And it’s Jara who loses Luiz.
HumboldtBlue
I would say that will affect Chile’s attack and open them up to the counter but they never stop attacking so it’s par for the course
Randy Paul aka Randinho
OHumboldtBlue: Rumor has it that he got that nickname from a resemblance to Lou Ferrigno, but I don’t buy it.
Valdivia
That looked like sn own goal to me.
HumboldtBlue
@Valdivia: That was
HumboldtBlue
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: He’s built like a brick wall
mali muso
The crowd sounds like waves crashing on the beach. Must be amazing to be there.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@Valdivia: me too.
HumboldtBlue
Chile’s already getting impatient and frustrated
burnspbesq
Neymar the chef, makes a meal of any contact.
Ridnik Chrome
the glorified bus stop that is Chicago Midway
I know it was the previous thread, but as a native Chicagoan I find this description to be perfect. Well done, Mistermix.
mali muso
Taking diving and acting to new heights! Or lows….
Alex S.
This game will set the record for diving in the penalty box.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@mali muso: I love that stadium. It’s the home ground of Cruzeiro, the team I pull for in Brazil and the current league champion, also, only one of five teams in Brazil that have never been relegated (Flamengo, Internacional, Santos, And Sao Paulo are the others).
mali muso
Chile!!!!!!
burnspbesq
Giveaway is duly punished.
HumboldtBlue
Brazil’s defense is going to be the difference, both in the midfield and the back line
Valdivia
Chile now has two. One for themselves and one for Brazil!
Randy Paul aka Randinho
Very sloppy defense there, Brazil.
HumboldtBlue
Christ I’m almost three minutes behind on my feed
burnspbesq
@Ridnik Chrome:
If you think Midway’s a dump, you must never have flown into the old airport in Bangalore.
SRW1
@burnspbesq:
Here’s how The Guardian described it:
Amir Khalid
Ha. Knockout stage matches can go to extra time, and penalties. Ths could be a long afternoon. Luckily, no one on either team is Muslim.
HumboldtBlue
@Amir Khalid: Nope, but both teams are on a crusade to keep the cup on their continent.
Ba-dum-tsshh. I’ll be here all day, try Randinho’s bean-lamb-and-bacon
Randy Paul aka Randinho
Replay shows Chile got away with a hand ball in the box. Should have been a penalty.
SRW1
This may be blasphemous to some, but Neymar’s hair-do makes me assume he thinks he may need a comb-up in his later years.
gene108
@burnspbesq:
That would go for most other old airports in most Indian cities. They were very small and not meant to handle a lot of traffic.
Though I did like the really small one terminal airports, where you basically walked in the front door, took a look out the back door to see, if your plane was on the run way and if it was, you walked across the runway to the plane.
Baud
@Amir Khalid:
Would a team from a Muslim country actually forfeit a World Cup match if it went on after sundown?
burnspbesq
Ball security needs to be a higher priority for Brazil. That’s pretty much the definition of a narrow escape.
SRW1
Jebus, there’s a lot of careless losses of the ball in front of the own box.
mali muso
Seems to me that this could go either way. Brazil’s defense doesn’t look so hot.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@mali muso: Neither does Chile’s. They have been gifting the ball back a lot.
burnspbesq
@gene108:
At the airport in Devonport, Tasmania, baggage claim works like this. A beat-up old John Deere tractor tows a flatbed trailer out to the Tarmac to pick up the bags. They open an aluminum roll-up door at the end of the terminal, put the tractor in reverse, and push the trailer into the terminal.
Amir Khalid
@Baud:
Highly unlikely. The situation would probably not arise in the first place, because it would be awkward to schedule a match that close to sunset. And if it did, the team would probably decide to skip the fast for the day (which is permitted in some circumstances, as I’ve noted above).
mali muso
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: This is true. So is it going to come down to whichever team can shore up their defense?
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@mali muso: Probably.
smintheus
Neymar is looking like he’ll do almost anything to avoid shooting on his left foot. And it looks like the Chilean defenders have cottoned on to it.
Baud
@Amir Khalid:
Missed your earlier comments
? Martin
@Amir Khalid: I have a number of Muslim coworkers that came to the US as adults from Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc. I don’t see that Islam is any less adaptive than other major religions in terms of adherence to rules. The most devout coworker I have is Jewish, not Muslim. Everyone else really focuses on the spirit rather than letter of rules when it bumps into work obligations, etc.
HumboldtBlue
Chile is carrying the action
? Martin
We need a betting pool on which US player will break his nose in the game against Belgium.
HumboldtBlue
Huh, that was hand ball
HumboldtBlue
That call balances out the gift in the opener
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@HumboldtBlue: everyone here is saying shoulder and it looks that way to me.
? Martin
Wow. But yeah, that’s technically a hand ball. Not much point to keeping your arms in receiving a high ball like that – your balance is better arms out, so arms in is the first clue that you’re planning on using them.
SRW1
I kind of suspect Brazilians won’t be too fond of Howard Webb after not only disallowing that goal but then also following up with a yellow card.
HumboldtBlue
@SRW1: It’s an automatic yellow, handball in the box
Alex S.
The referee is really good… Brazil looks a little lost.
burnspbesq
Is it Tuesday yet?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6e-3dfQK7w4
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@HumboldtBlue: wht is going to balance out the handball that Webb missed from Chile?
HumboldtBlue
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: It hit his pec and then his shoulder, very close but a correct call
HumboldtBlue
Brazil is frustrated
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@HumboldtBlue: But not his hand or arm. It also didn’t deserve a booking.
mali muso
Foul city!
burnspbesq
Julio Cesar saves Brazil’s bacon. They got sliced open with frightening ease.
SRW1
@HumboldtBlue:
Yep, and I suspect the prime candidate among the Brazilians to not finish the game bacause of a card is Gustavo. He doesn’t foul egregiously, but has a tendency to persist even after a yellow.
HumboldtBlue
Go Peppers, go
? Martin
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: From that reverse shot (the view the ref had) it definitely looks like it hit his upper arm. And the ref can’t call a hand ball without a yellow there.
Amir Khalid
It might be interesting to see this very close match go to penalties.
burnspbesq
Vidal: all eights and nines from the judges, and 3.6 degree of difficulty. A 100-point dive. Could have been a card.
HumboldtBlue
Brazil’s defense in the midfield was swarming in the first half and has disappeared
Edmund Dantes
There is another angle that shows it’s a lot more arm than the initial replays showed. It’s been shown once and never again so far. Right call.
HumboldtBlue
Chile needs a goal to force the action, can’t risk extra time or penalties
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@? Martin: if he determines it’s not intentional he doesn’t have to give a yellow card.
SRW1
The Brazilian press has retreated significantly. High tempo at the begin taking it’s toll?
HumboldtBlue
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: I thought it was automatic, so that means the Ref saw him shrug his shoulder and arm to control the ball
burnspbesq
Ramires? Seriously?
Edmund Dantes
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: doubt you’d ever see it, but Brazil has been teetering on the far edge of earning some dissent yellows. Might cause Webb to lean away from Brazil in some 50-50 calls since probably would be murdered for yellowing (or yellow-red) a Brazil player.
SRW1
Jo does a Fred.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@Edmund Dantes: don’t insult me, okay?
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@HumboldtBlue: from The guardian:
“good decision. The ball hit Hulk in the upper arm as he controlled it, so the goal shouldn’t have stood, but I’m not sure it was flagrant or deliberate enough to deserve a booking. “
HumboldtBlue
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: Gotcha
Edmund Dantes
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: I don’t mean literally, but the way the bench and team reacted to Neymar throwing himself into the air and landing on his head due to his own fault proves my point.
Don’t insult me, okay?
HumboldtBlue
Even if they manage to win, Brazil is missing something, they don’t have that last piece in attack and it shows
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@Edmund Dantes: I didn’t insult you. I’m not the one who called someone else’s objectivity in question. You did.
burnspbesq
@Edmund Dantes:
You’re showing the same level of objectivity and insight here as at Tax Analysts. Sigh.
burnspbesq
Bravo has been very good.
HumboldtBlue
@burnspbesq: He’s had to be
? Martin
Someone needs to teach Chile how to clear the ball. Holy shit guys. It pretty much doesn’t matter what direction you kick it in that situation.
SRW1
Both teams are already preparing mentally for extra time.
Edmund Dantes
I doubt you would see it. Is a common expression that doesn’t have to refer to the person as being the one that would see it.
I doubt you (meaning anyone that watches a world cup game) would see a ref ever book a player for dissent in the knockout stages. Especially one already on a yellow.
Amir Khalid
This is going to extra time, and with any luck the first penalty shootout of this World Cup.
HumboldtBlue
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: Do the Brazilians speak better Spanish than the Chileans speak Portagee?
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@Edmund Dantes: For the record, a common argument here is that Brazil lost the 1998 World Cup due to some funny busines. My response: Brazil hobbled its way into the final with a crappy defense and a lot of luck. France gave up two goals the entire tournament and did without Zidane for three games. France was clearly the better team in 1998.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@Edmund Dantes: Fair enough. Hatchet is buried.
Edmund Dantes
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: for the record, I’ve never meant or tried to call into question anyone’s integrity. I’m sorry my choice of expression led to a misunderstanding.
Outside of this, Brazil has spent way too much time worrying about the refs calls than playing. If they focused on the playing, we’d see more of these amazing long balls actually payoff. More chance more likely to beat odds.
Edmund Dantes
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: done. And sorry again.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@HumboldtBlue: Brazilians have almost no problem understanding Portuguese, but the reverse is not true. All the phonemes that exist in Spanish also exist in Portuguese, but Portuguese has phonemes that do not exist in Spanish.
Alex S.
Brazil never looked completely convincing during the group stage, but then almost no team did, so it seemed ok in the end. But this game shows that Brazil is really not in the best shape. Chile managed to take Neymar out of the game without violence and then the brilliance is missing.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@Edmund Dantes: Agreed.
Edmund Dantes
Not to mention if Brazil loses this game it blows up one side of my bracket. I’m pissed they aren’t doing better.
Violet
Just got home and turned on the TV. We’re into an extra 30 minutes? It’s not whoever gets a goal first wins, right? They have to complete both 15 minute periods?
HumboldtBlue
@Alex S.: Chile have been the better team and a golden goal would be more than well-earned
HumboldtBlue
@Violet: Yes, all 30 get played
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@Violet: Yes, but there is no golden goal.
SRW1
Brazilian has become more passive and alowed Chile control of midfield, yet still had some clear chances. Could still go either way and I suspect first goal will decide it, but Neymar looks awfully tired and without his contribution Brazil’s attack doesn’t look that sharp.
? Martin
The least satisfying aspect of futbol is the shootout. Hope it doesn’t come to that.
HumboldtBlue
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: Yeah, I guess I used golden goal incorrectly, that was in the old sudden death
HumboldtBlue
@? Martin: But it’s absurdly exciting
Alex S.
@HumboldtBlue:
I still think that Brazil is going to win, but it’s only based on a feeling. Their way in this tournament however should be over after their semi-final against the Netherlands, or even against Colombia in the quarter-finals.
Violet
@HumboldtBlue: When I was in Rio a few years ago and trying to get on a waiting list for a restaurant, the guy making the list didn’t speak very good English. I don’t speak Portuguese so he asked me if we could communicate in Spanish. My Spanish isn’t great but it’s better than my Portuguese, so we managed to communicate that way. It was kind of fun for both of us I think. He was quite nice about it and I was doing my best to communicate in Portuguese before we switched to Spanish, which is usually appreciated (the trying to speak in the native language). Outside of Paris, of course. If your French isn’t perfect in Paris they don’t want to talk to you.
PurpleGirl
Randinho — that dish sounds great. I might not make the whole complete thing, but the meat filling is definitely something I will try. I’m always looking for different ways to prepare and flavor chopped beef.
burnspbesq
Oscar’s playing name should really be Maninho. He looks 12.
HumboldtBlue
From the Guard
Some stats:
Shots – Brazil 15-6 Chile
Corners – Brazil 6-5 Chile
Saves – Brazil 1-4 Chile
Fouls – Brazil 21-14 Chile
Passes – Brazil 351-435 Chile
Completion rate – Brazil 67%-72% Chile
HumboldtBlue
@Alex S.: I feel ya, I can certainly see a quick counter leading to a goal
? Martin
@HumboldtBlue: True. Seems absurdly arbitrary as well, though. I’ve always wanted to see instead of a 1×1 shootout, a 3×3. Take the ball in from midfield, play ends with a goal or you lose possession. Something like that.
HumboldtBlue
@Violet: That’s fantastic, my favorite fictional character, Dr. Stephen Maturin, an Irish-Spaniard, is quoted as saying that “no man understands Portuguese unless he was taught at his mother’s breast and even then it’s not a sure thing”
raven
@? Martin: Rock, scissor, paper?
PurpleGirl
@Violet: As I remember a French teacher explaining it: “Don’t try telling a French person you don’t speak French in French, they won’t believe you. They will only make fun of you, better to just speak English, they will make fun of you anyway but less so.”
SRW1
And Jo attempts a de Jong. Weird that the ref is again Howard Webb.
? Martin
@raven: A friend of mine suggested awarding the match to the team with the fewest fouls, with yellows counting 3 and reds counting 5.
Howard Beale IV
@burnspbesq: Try HPN in the 1990s.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@SRW1: Except at least Jo was going after the ball.
raven
@? Martin: Throw in their GPA!
HumboldtBlue
Jo is a surprisingly big dude
burnspbesq
@SRW1:
Yellow was the correct call IMV. No intent to injure. Occupational hazard for keepers.
HumboldtBlue
Darke just made a great point about Oscar who was great in the first two games but has been invisible today
scav
@Violet: I’m wondering if that’s a temporal thing, the Paris I mean. I’ve usually managed more than fine there, and even my not-at-speaking-the-lingo parents managed, even remarkably in a cheese shop when there was a distinct focus and goal. But we tended to go in the dead of winter.
ETA. change in game tone from the first round is amazing. This is business. fun too, but different. Will they all be like this now?
SRW1
@Randy Paul aka Randinho:
Actually, I would consider going for the ball less of an excuse than not having fully seen what was going to happen (I thought he was looking for the ball coming from his back). Going for the ball fully aware that your studs are gonna hit your opponent in the chest is not much of an excuse in my eyes.
SRW1
@burnspbesq:
Yea, I agree. That was why I said ‘attempted’.
HumboldtBlue
@scav: Yes, it’s the knockout stage
burnspbesq
That’s the first obviously bad call.
Violet
@? Martin: The suggestion in my house is that you play the extra time but at certain points–say, every two minutes–each side has one player leave the game. The strategy would definitely be interesting to watch.
HumboldtBlue
OK, that’s a terrible call on Alves
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@SRW1: He deserved the yellow, no question, but de Jong planted his foot into Alonso long after the ball had left.
So Chile get a free kick because their player ran into Dani Alves who had been standing still?
HumboldtBlue
@burnspbesq: I was reading a Guardian writer who said it’s time for a second referee on the field, to hell with tradition.
raven
@HumboldtBlue: Oh god, not again.
scav
@HumboldtBlue: I get the knockout thing, but there was a joie de combat until now — almost talking more about the stands. even the guard blog has gone grim.
Alex S.
Chile has been dead for about 40 minutes now…
burnspbesq
The late, nasty challenges are coming thick and fast now.
HumboldtBlue
Willian has model good looks
SRW1
So, is Alexis Sanchez signalling that the days of baggy trunks are coming to an end and we are in for the sexy shorts of the 1970/80s making a comeback?
raven
@Alex S.: SIW
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@SRW1: God, I hope not.
? Martin
@raven: I think a hairstyle competition might be in order.
Amir Khalid
Very very nervy penalty shootout coming up soon.
raven
@? Martin: I’ve just recently adopted the Tim Howard look. My wife came back from a week at camp and was startled!
? Martin
Man, every heart in Brazil just stopped.
HumboldtBlue
Ugh
SRW1
Jebus, the game had become all Brazil and then the crossbar has to save them
Randy Paul aka Randinho
Now the dreaded penalties.
? Martin
@raven: You have the bushy beard Tim Howard look? She like it? I don’t think I could pull it off. I’d just look like I have cancer.
SRW1
So, who is the more likely penalty killer, Cesar or Bravo?
Alex S.
Heh, see you on the other side.
HumboldtBlue
@? Martin: Mine is shockingly white and my niece can’t understand how I have an all-white huge beard-afro on my face and chin and dark brown hair on my head. Of course, when you are as stunningly handsome as me any look is a good look
BGinCHI
How do you say “Brazil is shitting its pants” in Portuguese?
HumboldtBlue
@BGinCHI: They are experiencing a Goldberginho?
raven
@? Martin: Yea, shaved head and full beard. I’ve had the goat for years but I have this bump on my cheek so I let it grow. There was a time when I had the ZZ Top thang.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@BGinCHI: “Brasil esta cagando na calca”, pero Chile tambien esta cagando en los pantalones.
SRW1
@Randy Paul aka Randinho:
The Guardian MBM have a picture of Sanchez on the catwalk.
raven
Los chokearola grande!
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@SRW1: I saw it will take me years to get rid of that image.
? Martin
I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone miss the goal like that.
BGinCHI
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: I knew it would be good. Thanks.
Brazil will come through.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@SRW1: @SRW1: Julio Cesar thus far.
Amir Khalid
@raven:
That’s the whole idea of penalty shootouts.
Amir Khalid
Sudden-death penalty kicks, anyone?
SRW1
And Chile does an England in the penalty shoot-out.
That Aranguiz dude is one cool fellow. Best penalty ever.
Baud
Wow.
burnspbesq
Man …
Randy Paul aka Randinho
Brazil dodged a bullet.
HumboldtBlue
Fucking Brazil, lucky bastards
raven
Pretty cool.
? Martin
Well, they’re doing a good job of redeeming the penalty shootout.
BGinCHI
Brazil ripe for the pickings if Colombia go through without a bunch of yellow cards.
The home side has a lot of work to do….
Baud
Brasil doesn’t burn tonight!
Hill Dweller
Brutal way to lose. Chile hitting the crossbar and post in extra time and PK’s respectively was too cruel.
gene108
Brazil’s Man of the Match: The Goalposts and Crossbar
? Martin
Man, missed a deflection into the goal by no more than an inch on that.
Violet
I love Brazil so I’m happy for them. Feel bad for Chile but glad the hosts are through. I’d hate for them to go out so early.
mali muso
sigh. Well, there you have it. Brazil still not as impressive as they’ve been advertised, imo. How many yellows did they pick up anyways?
burnspbesq
If that’s all Brazil has, they aren’t getting to the final.
scav
@gene108: Indeed. Little tin replicas hung up on the walls of innumerable churches with flickering candles beneath. (Personally, I want them on a Bimbo card.)
Baud
I think it’s odd to give the host a free pass into the elimination round. Is that a typical practice in other sports?
Valdivia
@SRW1:
I agree that penalty was something!
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@mali muso: 4 for Brazil, 3 for Chile.
I’ll grant the referee’s position as being difficult, but I’ve seen several replays of the disallowed Hulk goal. It hit his chest, not his arm.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@Baud: that wouldn’t have happened if Brazil had lost.
Baud
@Randy Paul aka Randinho:
I know. I’m just making fun.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@BGinCHI: Colombia had a very easy group. Brazil has nearly a week to regroup.
mali muso
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: Hmm, this photo says otherwise. To be honest, I can’t tell.
So on to Colombia and Uruguay. I have hated Uruguay with the passion of a thousand suns since their thuggish elimination of Ghana in the last cup (Suarez being the focus of my ire, so very delighted he’s been booted). I’m all for Colombia today.
Heliopause
Here are some really good ideas for settling important sporting events:
To settle a tie NFL playoff game each team attempts five 45 yard field goals. If still tied after five rounds then random position players have to attempt the kicks until the tie is broken.
To settle a tied NBA playoff game five players from each team attempt a free throw. If still tied after five rounds keep going until one team ends up sending someone like Shaq up there.
To settle a tied NHL playoff game have a shootout. That’s an easy one.
To settle a tied baseball playoff game each team hits five ball off a tee. Most over the wall wins. If still tied after five rounds keep going through the roster and, yes, pitchers have to hit.
If Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson are tied after 72 holes of the Masters they line up identical six foot putts. First one to miss loses.
To settle a boxing draw each guy gets a free shot at the other until one can’t get up.
All of this would be fair, sensible, compelling entertainment.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@Baud: They would be more likely to whine about the game being paid for and grumble about being robbed as they did in 1998, notwithstanding the fact that they played really badly in 1998, creaked into the final and France had an incredible World Cup.
? Martin
@burnspbesq: Not with Germany on that side of the bracket.
Baud
@Randy Paul aka Randinho:
Since they’re the host team, however, I think a loss today would have been more painful.
HumboldtBlue
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: Ask Croatia about close calls in the box
? Martin
@Heliopause:
Home run derby. Each player in the lineup except pitcher and DH hit.
Golf should degrade to fencing for sudden death. Putters should have a touch sensor at the top of the grip.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@Heliopause: The culprit is television. In the 1938 WC, Brazil and Czechoslovakia tied in the quarter-finals and replayed the entire game two days later.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@HumboldtBlue: Not disputing you, but the angles I’ve seen from the front show that it did not hit his arm.
BGinCHI
@Randy Paul aka Randinho: By “regroup” I assume you mean becoming a better team? I hope so for their sake. Chile was good today but Brazil looks very beatable. Still, surviving is the name of the game in this WC.
scav
@Heliopause: In water polo, everyone has to dive simultaneously and hold their breath. last living person to surface wins (I am assuming they’d rescue the drowning). For some reason, Cricket insists on competitive sitting. Last one to make a run for the loos wins.
eta and I might actually watch @? Martin‘s golf.
Randy Paul aka Randinho
@BGinCHI: Learn from their mistakes, principally.
burnspbesq
@Randy Paul aka Randinho:
By the standard used for video replay in the NFL and MLB, you’re not getting an overrule. No way is the video evidence “conclusive.”
hilts
@Heliopause:
“To settle a tied baseball playoff game each team hits five ball off a tee.”
The current format of playing extra innings is just fine. There’s nothing broken that cries out for your fix.
Heliopause
@Randy Paul aka Randinho:
My suggestions, which always go over so well, are as follows.
Fifteen minutes overtime periods. First two are aggregate score, after that it’s sudden death.
Teams are allowed two extra substitutes per 15 minute period. Players substituted for during the first 90 minutes may re-enter the game in overtime. Yes, purists, wail away; do you really enjoy watching exhausted, cramping players play not-to-lose football for an hour, hoping for a lucky break (which Chile almost got) or penalty kicks (which they did get)? Please. Today’s game was brutal to watch from halftime onward in terms of creative play.
And yes, keep going until there’s a score. Other major sports manage to keep going for hours on end in search of a legitimate winner.