Guns Don’t Kill People, Gays Kill People

Hey, did you know that gays were responsible for the UCSB shooter, a frustrated heterosexual obsessed with hetero pick up culture?

[…] [Ken] Blackwell blamed the shooting on “the crumbling of the moral foundation of the country” and “the attack on natural marriage and the family.”

“When these fundamental institutions are attacked and destroyed and weakened and abandoned, you get what we are now seeing,” Blackwell said, arguing that people who are “blaming the Second Amendment” are “avoiding talking about what is at the root cause of the problem.”

Ken Blackwell, a “senior fellow” at the hate group called the Family Research Council, used to be the Attorney General of Ohio, so he ought to know.

This guy is a professional hater, unlike, say, that Duck Dynasty guy or Cliven Bundy. Since he’s paid to hate, I don’t think criticizing him will turn him into a “hate martyr”, which is Josh Marshall’s term for those other two.

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101 replies
  1. 1
    NotMax says:

    And the time that one place left the cheese off the cheeseburger?

    That bank teller who posted the Next Window sign when I got to the front of the line?

    Sinkholes?

    Toenail fungus?

    Gays.

  2. 2
    gene108 says:

    I think Ken makes a valid point. Our nation’s new found embrace of the homosexual lifestyle has led to 9/11, Katrina drowning New Orleans and mass murder at UCSB.

    How many more tragedies do we have to endure as a nation before the facts become so overwhelming regarding the trouble we are in because of the acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle?

    Enough is enough.

    The facts are out there.

  3. 3
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    The obvious solution is to restrict voting rights.

  4. 4
    Baud says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    You think that will be enough to sate Jesus’s fury?

  5. 5
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @gene108: You left out dead Soldiers, Airmen, Sailors, and Marines.

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    NorthLeft12 says:

    “crumbling moral foundation”? Sounds like this is the only infrastructure that RWNJs are interested in working on.
    Fortunately it does not cost any money nor create any productive employment. It seems to be able to be rebuilt just by restricting minority rights, the escalation of hate, and plenty of hot air.

  7. 7
    Suffern ACE says:

    Sorry, heterosexual champions. After reading Jezebel’s snippets of posts from the Puahate site, this particular incident does not involve teh gehy overtly, covertly, or latently. Except for that one poster who proclaims that when he sees a woman, he sees a skinnyfat guy with a pussy…

  8. 8
    jibeaux says:

    It is eerily similar to the Westboro Baptist Church’s logic, isn’t it?

  9. 9
    MikeBoyScout says:

    Is there some organization which certifies marriages as 100% “natural”?
    Should I start a cert mill business?

  10. 10
    cmorenc says:

    Blackwell’s right in that guns don’t kill people, morally depraved people do. However, Eddie Izzard’s also right: “They say that guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Well I think the gun helps. If you just stood there and yelled BANG, I don’t think you’d kill too many people”.

  11. 11
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Baud: Oh no, when Jesus is done restricting the rights of blacks, hispanics, and gays, he will go after the asians, Norwegian farmers, and Jehova Witnesses. Or so some Republican told me.

  12. 12
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Ooopps, I forgot Catholics who use birth control. They are the worst of them all.

  13. 13

    Meanwhile, America demands black guy clean up big mess. Again.

    I mean, what the fuck am I missing here, people? Was the rest of the country asleep when liberals were hollering about the problems with the VA while Bush was sending more of our young people off to war?

  14. 14
    Betty Cracker says:

    Blackwell has it exactly bass-ackwards: It weren’t The Ghey that told the young lunatic he was entitled to women’s bodies and sent him off his rocker when hawt concubines failed to materialize at his feet. That message originated with The Patriarchy, the institution that inspired and is shored up by the rigid moralistic codes and religious dumbfuckery Blackwell is meeping about.

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    gene108 says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    The obvious solution is to restrict voting rights.

    And repeal the 1965 Voting Rights Act and the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    You left out dead Soldiers, Airmen, Sailors, and Marines.

    No. They were killed by our embrace of Sharia Law.

    Spilling coffee on myself yesterday, well that was part of the homosexual agenda.

  16. 16
    SuzieC says:

    Ken Blackwell is not an attorney and was never the Attorney General of Ohio. He was the Secretary of State for one term.

  17. 17
    Baud says:

    @SuzieC:

    Details.

  18. 18
    Patrick says:

    [Ken] Blackwell blamed the shooting on “the crumbling of the moral foundation of the country” and “the attack on natural marriage and the family.” “When these fundamental institutions are attacked and destroyed and weakened and abandoned, you get what we are now seeing,” Blackwell said, arguing that people who are “blaming the Second Amendment” are “avoiding talking about what is at the root cause of the problem.”

    OK – I’ll bite. If that’s Blackwell’s argument, then why does all other Western European countries have less gun violence than we do? Hell, they are not less gay friendly than the US and have much tougher gun laws than we do.

  19. 19
    raven says:

    @Southern Beale: The MJ crew yammered on about how money would not solve the problem, it needs leadership. They then agreed that more doctors and facilities were needed. Last night Rachel said there will be another vote on the VA funding bill that 41 pukes filibustered in January. expect the “money won’t solve this” routine.

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    Suffern ACE says:

    @raven: they would like to privatize it. It is amazing that private companies can find more doctors and nurses for less money. Just like private school vouchers find all of these amazing teachers for less money.

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    Patrick says:

    @raven:

    Did the “geniuses” on MJ at all bring up the poorly planned Iraq war and its impact on VA?

  22. 22
    rikyrah says:

    These muthafuckas have lost their damn minds.

    …………….

    Gun Activists With Assault Rifles Harass Marine Veteran on Memorial Day

    “Are you gonna cry? Sounds like you’re about to cry.” Watch armed men pursue a vet through downtown Fort Worth.

    —By Mark Follman

    | Fri May 30, 2014 6:00 AM EDT

    On Memorial Day this week, a former Marine in Texas named James got a couple calls from friends who’d spotted an unusual gathering in downtown Fort Worth: Roughly a dozen people, mostly men, were hanging out in the middle of the city’s cultural district, armed with semi-automatic rifles. James quickly knew what his friends were describing, having recently encountered an open-carry demonstration himself in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. An independent TV commercial producer who sometimes films live events, James headed downtown with his camera to get some footage.

    What he saw there struck him as especially provocative. Not only had the open-carry activists come to a typically relaxed, family friendly part of town, they were displaying intimidating firearms just three days after a major gun massacre in southern California. What he didn’t anticipate was that they would soon be pursuing him for several city blocks with cameras of their own, harassing him and later posting the footage online, where they would also level homophobic slurs and violent threats against him.

    Women who speak out have been the primary target for gun activists, as I detailed in a recent investigation. But now, on a day meant to honor fallen service members, a military vet would make the hit list.

    http://youtu.be/04k4OWPquK4

    http://www.motherjones.com/pol.....ne-veteran

  23. 23
    Morzer says:

    Blackwell was the Ohio Secretary of State (1999-2007), most prominent GOP officeholder in the state to support an anti-gay marriage amendment to the state constitution and, qua secretary of state, also the Chief Elections Officer in 2004 when he tried to push some distinctly hinky “provisional ballots”, mostly, it seemed as a form of voter suppression. Much ensuing legal upset, outrage and wrangling, which might be why Blackwell has now scurried off to a safer form of wingnut welfare.

  24. 24
    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    @gene108: And don’t forget the decline of quality running backs in the NFL, and decline of dominating centers in the NBA. And the disappearance of the actor Bronson Pinchot from quality TV.
    Oh and o/t Happy Birthday Bildebergers!

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    Gordon, the Big Express Engine says:

    @Suffern ACE: Oberyn Martel is my bisexual champion

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    @Suffern ACE:

    they would like to privatize it.

    Of course that it what this is about, even though it’s already partially privatized — many VA clients are sent to private doctors and clinics for certain care. That’s nothing new, and the backlog issue has increased the amount of “outsourcing” to private clinics.

    But you know, it’s not like we don’t have long wait times in the private healthcare world. It’s not like things are so wonderful out here in non-VA land, either. It can take me months to get in to see my doctor, and then I’ve got all the paperwork headaches of dealing with BlueCross/BlueSucks. I guess it’s better that I deal with it than some “government bureaucrat.”

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    Keith G says:

    Twinkies. I thought Twinkies caused this type of behavior.

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    bemused says:

    I think ammosexual is a brilliant word that I first read here recently. There were some other clever, not very subtle euphemisms that also popped up in the comments, iirc, but I haven’t found them again. I should have bookmarked.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    I imagine that Blackwell would say that pick-up artists and same-sex marriages are in fact two aspects of the same problem: sex obsession. I’m sure he thinks abortion and contraception figure in as well. For people like him, it’s all just different flavors of depravity. Interesting that rapacious capitalism and luxury never confirm the worrisome existence of depravity or become iconic as Challenges to Traditional Family Argleblargle.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Suffern ACE: @Southern Beale: Do you think privatization is the real objective? Sounds more planned than what they’ve been doing, which is mostly flinging poo every which way. I figured the whole brouhaha was a way to say “this is what Government Health Care looks like,” and reinvigorate the anti-Obamacare skree that had started to die down.

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    Ash Can says:

    These guys know they have to start flinging shit when these things happen, to distract people from talking about the real problems.

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    srv says:

    Clearly all you people remember that entitlement and objectification didn’t exist before gay marriage

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @rikyrah: Those pricks are terrorists, plain and simple.

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    Morzer says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    Privatization is always the real objective, in that it allows the GOP to repay their corrupt paymasters with public money and assets. It’s a key way for them to rip off the American people’s taxes and fatten the oligarchs.

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    K488 says:

    @bemused: I rather liked “Gundamentalist” and thank whoever coined it.

  36. 36
    C.V. Danes says:

    Of course, he probably would have killed fewer people if he had been forced to use a club or knife, but, you know, FREEDOM!

  37. 37
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Morzer: True, but that’s when they’re thinking long-term. I feel like so far this to-do has been entirely short-term: make a fuss, link it to some Bad Thing They Do, parlay it into a better position for the next election. I really don’t see the Republicans actually trying to privatize the VA, because to pull that off they’d have to fight openly against the veterans’ groups that don’t want anything of the sort.

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    bemused says:

    @K488:

    Ha, I missed that one.

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    monkeyfister says:

    Back in 2005, my workplace was part of the security state showcase known as the Boy Scout Jamboree. It used to be held at FT AP Hill, and so NORCOM led the security. We were called to FT AP Hill for the big briefing about load-in and participation in the event. Day 2 of the conference, Gen. Boykin was there to discuss threats to security. The classic line he spoke nearly put several of us on the floor with laughter. “All it takes is one homosexual with a bazooka to turn this event into a tragedy.”

    No self-respecting gay person would ever accesorize with a bazooka. Boykin’s very serious statement was ridiculous on its face. Holding back the laughter was painful.

  40. 40

    So the “logic” is because society has decided that non-discrimination, tolerance and empathy towards others, and giving people the freedom to pursue happiness (even if one disagrees with their path) is a good thing, that kids are confused and are deciding to become narcissistic murderous psychopaths who have zero empathy for others?

    Yeah, seems legit.

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    bemused says:

    @monkeyfister:

    Wow. Boykin is a total lunatic. Yet he became a general. The mind reels.

  42. 42
    Susanne says:

    Blackwell also isn’t someone who came out of nowhere to spew hate and become a martyr to the right. He’s already one of their heroes, because he was the Ohio Secretary of State who effectively stole Ohio for GW Bush in the 2004 election. http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0601-34.htm He’s a war criminal, once removed.

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    Keith says:

    Ken Blackwell is the problem, or at minimum part of it, emblematic of the problem.

    Promoter of insidious division – self-loathing and fear.

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    Tone In DC says:

    Gen. Boykin was there to discuss threats to security. The classic line he spoke nearly put several of us on the floor with laughter. “All it takes is one homosexual with a bazooka to turn this event into a tragedy.”

    PLEASE tell me that quote is from the Onion.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Comrade Dread: The “logic” is “once you tell people that anything goes, then they’ll take you up on it by doing whatever they feel like doing, for instance killing people.” It’s the same thing that they say about secularism.

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    JGabriel says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Oh no, when Jesus is done restricting the rights of blacks, hispanics, and gays, he will go after the asians, Norwegian farmers, and Jehova Witnesses. Or so some Republican told me.

    And the Catholics. Remember how bigots hated the Irish, then the Italians, then the Poles, and now Mexicans?

    What they have in common: all are majority Catholic.

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    Belafon says:

    @FlipYrWhig: People need constraints and boundaries, except when it involves restricting guns.

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    Ash Can says:

    @monkeyfister:

    “All it takes is one homosexual with a bazooka to turn this event into a tragedy.”

    I have a couple of party-animal gay cousins who would adore the living hell out of this quote.

  49. 49
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Belafon: That’s because the guns are what you use to reestablish the constraints that Society has taken away.

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    @FlipYrWhig: Last time I checked, society still pretty much says, “Don’t shoot people, dickwads. It’s wrong. Unless you’re in Flordia… and they’re black.”

    And they are perfectly free to go on saying that gay people (and married gay folks and those that tolerate them) are an abomination that will be tortured by God for all eternity in fire without hope of recourse, mercy, respite, or parole.

    The rest of us are just free to ignore them and their view of who God is.

  51. 51
    Scott S. says:

    @monkeyfister: General Boykin is very, very interested in homosexuals with bazookas.

  52. 52
    JGabriel says:

    Susanne:

    [Blackwell’s] already one of their heroes, because he was the Ohio Secretary of State who effectively stole Ohio for GW Bush in the 2004 election.

    I was just about to post the same thing when I read your post.

  53. 53
    Cassidy says:

    No self-respecting gay person would ever accesorize with a bazooka.

    I don’t know. A bazooka is kinda retro. Maybe a hipster homosexual?

  54. 54
    shelley says:

    Ken Blackwell, a “senior fellow

    First I thought this was the guy demanding that their members refuse mail with the Harvey Milk stamp. (Your tax refund finally comes; but Harvey’s there on the envelope? Refuse it! That’ll show the gays.) But no, that’s another organization. So hard to tell ’em apart.

  55. 55
    jonas says:

    Shorter Blackwell: “What is your major malfunction, numbnuts?! Didn’t your mommy and daddy show you enough attention when you were a child?!”

  56. 56
    NotMax says:

    @Tone In DC

    Don’t doubt it for a nanosecond.

    Same Gen. Boykin of the “There is no greater threat to America than Islam” and “I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol” as well as “Here’s the way I want to enter the gates of Heaven. I want to come skidding in there on all fours. I want to be slipping and sliding and I want to hit the gates of heaven with a bang. And when I stand up and I stand before Christ, I want there to be blood on my knees and my elbows. I want to be covered with mud. And I want to be standing there with a ragged breast plate of righteousness. And a spear in my hand. And I want to say, ‘Look at me, Jesus. I’ve been in the battle. I’ve been fighting for you.’ ” argle-bargle.

    Among others. That final quote, by the way, was delivered in Israel.

  57. 57
    Roger Moore says:

    @NorthLeft12:

    Fortunately it does not cost any money nor create any productive employment.

    What do you mean it doesn’t cost money? It requires very large donations to Talibangelical organizations. These hate campaigns aren’t free, you know!

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Comrade Dread: Unfortunately, I think society says something more like “Don’t shoot people for no reason. Only shoot the people you have to. Which, The Way Things Are Going, may eventually be a significant number of people. You know the ones.”

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    GregB says:

    Has Joe the Political Assassin chimed in today?

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    SatanicPanic says:

    @rikyrah: Westboro Baptist Gun Club

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    NCSteve says:

    Blackwell is the guy who stole Ohio for Rove in 2004.

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    Mike in NC says:

    Family Research Council, Focus On The Family, etc. You really can’t organize a wingnut hate group without the word “family” thrown in there someplace. I met some of these assholes in the workplace.

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    @bemused: Ammoerotica: fantasies about how an ammosexual would have stopped a massacre had they only been there with their gun.

    Dear Guns & Ammo: I was at the latest Expendables sequel, my AR-15 nestled comfortably between my legs, when a clown walked in the emergency exit with a rusty 9 mm…

  64. 64
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Joseph Nobles: I’m loving all the new “ammo-” coinages.

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    Belafon says:

    @Comrade Dread: But you are free to intimidate as many people as you want as long as the gun stays at home in your car concealed on your body not pointed directly at anyone who isn’t questioning your need to carry a gun.

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    @FlipYrWhig: Yeah. :D

    I did mean to reply to bemused up above, but your handle got into the @ somehow.

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    Tokyokie says:

    I liked Blackwell a lot more when he was issuing yearly snark about celebrities’ clothes.

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    CONGRATULATIONS! says:

    “All it takes is one homosexual with a bazooka to turn this event into a tragedy.”

    @monkeyfister: There are so many glorious things about this line it would be impossible to list them all.

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    bemused says:

    @Joseph Nobles:

    lol

    @FlipYrWhig:

    Me too. If there isn’t a handy list of ammo eroticisms and coinages somewhere, there should be.

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    John PM says:

    Maybe I am missing something, since I am thinking rationally, but isn’t the increase in the number of gays actually good for straight guys since there is less competition for the hot girls? Unless, of course, the hot girls have gay best friends who are telling them to stay away from crazy entitled bastards.

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    Silencio says:

    @Betty Cracker: Right on the money. Heterosexuality is a disease (I say, deliberately provocatively). Heterosexuality brought you child abuse, of various forms; domestic violence; and children being raised in the “wrong” way so they grow up to be murderous, loathsome people.

    Every time I see a killer, I see that heterosexuals are bad parents, unable to raise their children properly. After all, in our nation’s history, gays and lesbians have seldom to never had a chance to raise kids. So any “moral decay” we witness can be laid on the doorstep of heterosexuality.

    For the good of our nation and god’s reign on earth, we need to restrict the rights of heteros to reproduce. MAYBE they should be allowed to adopt, if further social research indicates they can do that without destroying a child’s moral compass.

    More seriously: anytime I read about these blind and foolish homophobes, and increasingly when I read about the woman (and self) hating men’s “rights” movement, I’m reminded of a paraphrase from Plato’s Republic: “You can’t reason with someone who doesn’t want to reason.” Those sorts of people prove that, in many different ways, we overestimate the “rationality” of human beings.

  72. 72
    Sherparick says:

    These people really are disgusting. When you have 315 million people, and even more freely available guns, stuff will happen. Contrary to the wild paranoid fantasies of the Fox News audience, the level of violence and misbehavior in the U.S. is probably the lowest in its history. http://www.vox.com/2014/5/25/5.....-on-record

    Compare this with the beloved 19th century these guys hanker to go back to. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wesley_Hardin

  73. 73
    gene108 says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    Do you think privatization is the real objective? Sounds more planned than what they’ve been doing, which is mostly flinging poo every which way. I figured the whole brouhaha was a way to say “this is what Government Health Care looks like,” and reinvigorate the anti-Obamacare skree that had started to die down.

    Why couldn’t they be attempting to do both at the same time?

    As dumb as rank-and-file GOP folks are, there are still some clever evil folks in the Republican Party, who can occasionally manage to do serious harm to this country, such as Operation Red State in 2010.

    I have heard some right-wing talking head – maybe on CSPAN or NPR – go on about how expanding government services will not solve the VA problem, because government has failed at this for decades and we should use free-market magic. They actually had a non-right-winger, who came prepared and went off about how VA care is better, cheaper and cannot be duplicated by the private sector.

    Anyway it really does seem they want to kill any future attempts at single payer / universal coverage and this gives them some cover to take digs at “government insurance”, along with privatization of the VA.

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    gnomedad says:

    Being gay is a choice, except for when a “frustrated homosexual” trying to get women commits a massacre.

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    Paul in KY says:

    @Scott S.: That’s my takeaway from that. Can’t get those thougts of buff, oiled gays with big bazookas shooting & shooting…

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    PaulW says:

    List of things Gays are responsible for:
    1) Massive federal deficits
    2) Lying to a majority of people about there being WMDs in Iraq
    3) Failing to raise taxes or other means of revenue creation – what the hell happened to war bonds? – to fund two massive wars
    4) Implementing a torture regime despite the still-existing international and national laws prohibiting its use
    5) The outright theft of billions of dollars supposedly used to fund those overseas wars and rebuilding efforts

    Oh wait, my bad. I confused Republican Party leadership with Teh Gays.

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    monkeyfister says:

    @Tone In DC:

    It is a real quote. I was thirty feet from him when he said it. He also worried about transvestites coming in disguised as Girl Scouts. My boss and I were stunned. laughed our asses off as soon as we were able to step out of the building on a break.

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    monkeyfister says:

    @Cassidy:

    I think “Che Chic” was already out of style even in 2005.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    Have you ever seen Klute, with Jane Fonda and Donald Sutherland? It’s considered a classic of the 1970s, but damned if that isn’t the exact message of the film. The killer is driven mad by the permissiveness of society, and it kinda is all society’s fault, which is why Fonda’s character has to stop being a hooker and become a submissive housewife for Sutherland.

    No, seriously, that’s the movie.

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    Silencio says:

    @Mnemosyne: That movie creeped me out.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Mnemosyne: I haven’t seen it, but that’s pretty much the core message of a huge number of ’70s films, isn’t it? For starters, Taxi Driver, Death Wish…

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @gene108: Oh, I’m sure that’s the think-tankers’ plan, but I don’t see them trying it anytime soon, because it would set up a confrontation with actual veterans, a/k/a Our Wounded Warriors, and they’ll lose that fight, and badly.

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    CONGRATULATIONS! says:

    Maybe I am missing something, since I am thinking rationally, but isn’t the increase in the number of gays actually good for straight guys since there is less competition for the hot girls?

    @John PM: I lived in San Francisco for a decade. This is absolutely true. Most of the good-looking guys were gay, and there were lots of wonderful, lovely single women there who were competing rather determinedly for the attention/affection of single guys such as myself. My dating life was never as good before or after.

    I can also tell you that there’s such a thing as “reverse gaydar”, because I never got hit on by a guy. Not once. It actually started bothering me after a while, I asked one of my friends of the queer persuasion whether there was something wrong with me or if I was ugly or what. He just smiled and said “waste of time”. lol.

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    SFAW says:

    @monkeyfister:

    “All it takes is one homosexual with a bazooka to turn this event into a tragedy.”

    The only thing that will stop a bad gay with a bazooka is a good gay [sic] with a bazooka?

    No self-respecting gay person would ever accesorize with a bazooka.

    Well, if they came in pink, instead of olive drab, would that be more acceptable to Teh Gheys?

    @rikyrah:

    “Hello, Fort Worth Police Department? There are a bunch of guys downtown, with automatic weapons, scaring the shit out of some of the wimmins and children. I think I heard a few of them yelling ‘Allyhoo Akbar’ or somethin’ like that. They looked kinda swarthy, if you know what I mean. Yes, sir, I ran inside to get away. I mean, they had some heavy-duty stuff, an’ were pointin’ their guns at people and laughin’. Anything y’all can do to help? ”

    Fucking terrorists. How are they any different from the Taliban? Or Sinaloa?

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    SFAW says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    because it would set up a confrontation with actual veterans,

    Dickhead Burr doesn’t seem too worried about that.

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    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q) says:

    I’m sure it’s already been pointed out that Blackwell was not AG, but he actually did way more damage as Secretary of State – dibeold machined and other ways he helped throw 2004 election for Shrub, including extensive litigation against him and his office. Oh, and 2006 (?) release of millions of social security numbers (oops! new lawsuit!). I think some group that got the list wouldn’t cooperate with the recall.

    He had a pretty uneventful stint as Treasures before that. While in Cincinnati he did tried on every party hat – starting as a Democrat (!) then joining the Charterites (there’s a local Charter Party – don’t ask) before finally deciding the GOP hat fit the best. Coinciding of course, with statewide ambitions!

    I could go on and on, but I’ll spare you. Nikki Giovanni dedicated a poem to him when she read it locally; something to the effect of “I’m here on Fountain Square in Cincinnati – original home of that SOB and political whore Ken Blackwell.” Not quite, but close. It’s a great poem with lots of local references.

    TL;DR asshole from way back.

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    RSA says:

    Hitler and Stalin also hated gays. I wonder what Blackwell makes of that?

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    SFAW says:

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    Nikki Giovanni dedicated a poem

    Except that Cincinnati is not the biggest Oktoberfest outside of Munich. That would be Kitchener-Waterloo, in Canadia.

    Yes, I realize that’s not what the poem was about.

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    Rich (In Name Only) in Reno says:

    The right wing accrue “martyrs” who shoot their mouths off, while on the left it’s those who’ve been shot.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @SFAW: If I were Richard Burr’s next opponent, I would be counting my lucky stars.

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    SFAW says:

    @FlipYrWhig:
    You’re dreaming, unless you mean his Tea Party opponent. With all of the shit that the Rethugs have done to service members over the last 20-plus years, has it affected their ability to win in the South? Maybe a little, but not too often.

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    Paul in KY says:

    @FlipYrWhig: Looking for Mr. Goodbar.

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    SFAW says:

    @Rich (In Name Only) in Reno:

    Excellent point.

    A possible alternate version: Right-wing martyrs are the shooters, left-wing martyrs are the shootees.

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    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q) says:

    @SFAW: Yeah, but I bet we have way better craft beers at ours than (the one in) Canada. First shot fired in North American beer war!

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @SFAW: I’m in Virginia, where Jim Webb rode orneriness, populism, and pro-soldier/pro-veteran attitudes to an unexpected victory over a goober whose dad was a football hero. If Richard Burr had any accomplishments to his name, he could shrug this off, but I think it’s going to hurt him in a state that, like Virginia, has been receptive lately to center-right Democrats. Does NC have a Jim Webb? Please don’t let it be a rematch with Erskine Bowles.

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    SFAW says:

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    Maybe so, but I didn’t go to K-W for the craft beers. I’m guessing most people don’t go to Cincy for them, either. (Unless they make a side trip to Covington.)

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    SFAW says:

    @FlipYrWhig:
    Yeah, as I was writing the previous comment, I was thinking of Webb. If there’s a Webb in NC, perhaps he (or she, I guess) would stand a chance against Burr.

    But, given that Allen was also an incumbent, maybe I’ll be proved wrong. I can only hope.

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    RaflW says:

    Maybe this is already out there, but perhaps the pilots of MH 370 were secretly gay, and that’s why the plane disappeared? Moral decline isn’t just for Americans, after all!

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    boatboy_srq says:

    @jibeaux: It IS Westboro’s logic. Westboro was an anomaly only in the direct nature of their rants: most of the Reichwing figured out how to (dog)whistle the tune a bit more subtly.

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    Darkrose says:

    @Suffern ACE: I read that, and then had to go take a long shower. Ew.

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    pseudonymous in nc says:

    Wingnut welfare: once you’re made, you will never be out of work.

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