Two Initials One Cupp

Always the victim:

So let’s just start with, we don’t agree on the facts,” Nye responded. “This third report came out, saying it’s very serious, you say no. There’s the essence of the problem, S.E.”

Cupp then interjected to call scientists bullies.

“Isn’t it a problem when science guys attempt to bully other people?” Cupp asked Nye. “Nick here had to say, ‘I’m not a denier.’ He had to get it out: ‘I’m not a denier.’ Because really, the science group has tried to shame anyone who dares question this, and the point I’m trying to make is, it’s not working with the public.”

Using facts to tell people they’re wrong is the new Westboro Baptist Church picketing funerals of dead soldiers.






81 replies
  1. 1
    Phoenician in a time of Romans says:

    If I had the option, I’d start calling her “Alice” or “Mildred” in these debates. And when she objected, I’d claim that her name wasn’t a fact, that my opinion on her name was as good as anyone else’s, and that she was bullying people by insisting on her “facts”.

    But then, her intended audience wouldn’t get the point.

  2. 2
    mellowjohn says:

    hey, sippy? you may think the glasses make you look smart, but when you open your mouth you ruin the effect.

  3. 3
    srv says:

    If I could just go back in time and bully Xtian kids. Just torture them. Give them the cross they so ache to be crucified on.

  4. 4
    dmsilev says:

    I know that my fondest memories growing up as a nerd were the times that me and my posse would beat up athletes, take their lunch money, and stuff them in lockers.

    Also, does SIppy Cupp have an actually first name, or is it really just ‘S.E.’?

  5. 5
    gnomedad says:

    “bullying people with facts” should be a tagline or tag or label or whatever the hell it’s called.

  6. 6
    JustRuss says:

    @gnomedad:

    “bullying people with facts” should be a tagline

    Hell, I’m thinking it would make a fine tattoo.

  7. 7

    @dmsilev: sarah elizabeth
    both she and tucker carlson are from my neck of the woods. SADDESTOFFACES

  8. 8
    Not Adding Much to the Community says:

    @dmsilev: “Sarah Elizabeth” just as I guessed.

  9. 9
    Amir Khalid says:

    @dmsilev:
    Sarah Elizabeth, per Wikipedia.

  10. 10
    Origuy says:

    According to Wikipedia, she has a BA in Art History and an MS in Religious Studies. While these are no slight accomplishments, they don’t qualify you to dispute physics with a PhD in astrophysics.

    ETA. She studied ballet, and he got a gold medal in Latin Ballroom. He’s probably a better dancer than her, too.

    ETA2. Sorry, it was Bill Nye she was talking about. I thought it was Neil deGrasse Tyson.

  11. 11
    beltane says:

    @Origuy: Despite her qualifications, I wouldn’t care to discuss art with her either.

  12. 12
    Seanly says:

    snicker snicker, love the title. You’ll probably be nominated for a Moore award though now…

  13. 13
    Tonybrown74 says:

    @srv:

    That last nail is always a bitch to get in.

    You almost want to help them, but then they will accuse you of putting them up on that cross if you do.

    Let them wail.

  14. 14
    Jebediah, RBG says:

    @ranchandsyrup:

    both she and tucker carlson are from my neck of the woods. SADDESTOFFACES

    You can’t see it, but I here is my most sympathetic of sympathy faces…

  15. 15
    Ash Can says:

    Because really, the science group has tried to shame anyone who dares question this

    Um, no, dear. There are no science groups shaming you. You’re doing that yourself, bless your heart.

  16. 16
    Hungry Joe says:

    This aggressive, unapologetic ignorance is nothing new. Back in Watergate days there was a GOP Congressman named Landgrebe from southern Indiana who, when presented with evidence of Nixonian perfidy, said, “Don’t confuse me with the facts. I’ve got a closed mind.” Difference was, he became in instant laughingstock, and even though he was from a pretty red district he got voted out next time around.

  17. 17
    The Moar You Know says:

    both she and tucker carlson are from my neck of the woods. SADDESTOFFACES

    @ranchandsyrup: Fucker Carlson went to my buddy’s prep school, and showed up (uninvited) at one of our parties in North County (mid 1980s) and came within an inch of getting his ass seriously beaten. To call him “deliberately annoying” would be the understatement of the year.

    ETA: To find out that Sippy’s from here is no shocker as well, it just makes me die a little inside. This place was so cool, once a long time ago.

  18. 18
    Amir Khalid says:

    @Origuy:
    Who is the astrophysics doctorate you speak of? Per Bill Nye’s Wikipedia entry, he is a mechanical engineer with a bachelor’s degree from Cornell, but his three doctorates are all honorary.

  19. 19
    pablo says:

    It’s a good time to slip in the exclamation: THE STUPID….IT BURNS!!!

  20. 20
    Hungry Joe says:

    @The Moar You Know: ” … came within an inch”? And you couldn’t push him that extra inch? How much trouble would it have been? You’re breaking my heart here.

  21. 21
    Richard Grant says:

    An optimist would say that S.E. Cupp is half full.

  22. 22
    cckids says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Who is the astrophysics doctorate you speak of?

    Neil DeGrasse Tyson

  23. 23
    HR Progressive says:

    There was once a time I thought she was actually supposed to be an “intelligent conservative”.

    But this exchange erases all doubt. She’s as dumb as the rest of ’em.

  24. 24

    @Jebediah, RBG: lol thx

    @The Moar You Know: tucker’s got a face for punching, that’s for sure. so smarmy.

  25. 25
    pzerzan says:

    When is Freddie DeBoer going to write that while Bill Nye may be right, he’s still a bully.

  26. 26
    scav says:

    If science results were entirely up to public popularity contests, buildings would stop burning by firemen concentratedly ignoring them and deep fried chocolate chip cookies would be the pre-eminent diet food.

  27. 27
    gnomedad says:

    @HR Progressive:

    There was once a time I thought she was actually supposed to be an “intelligent conservative”.

    No money in that.

  28. 28
    The Moar You Know says:

    @Hungry Joe: He couldn’t push me the extra inch. I just wanted him out without the cops showing up, since we were all under legal drinking age.

    He really should have thanked me. I kept him and his two bros from getting a world-class beatdown. He had no idea. I got the vibe that he had no idea that anyone would even consider hurting him.

    Knowing what I know now, I didn’t do him any favors (although “doing him a favor” was the last thing on my mind). A beating would have improved his attitude considerably, I’m thinking. But then some of us would have ended up in jail, and he would have gotten off as “the victim”.

  29. 29
    MattF says:

    ‘Facts’ are very low on the list of things that motivate Ms. Cupp. Prejudices, beliefs, resentment, projection, etc. I guess Nye hopes that whoever he’s debating will say something so stupid that it goes viral– so this is a win for Nye. I don’t envy him, though.

  30. 30

    @The Moar You Know: fuck it, let’s build a time machine. I’ll take the rap.

  31. 31
    scav says:

    @pzerzan: Reality has a well-known bullying bias.

  32. 32
    cckids says:

    @HR Progressive:

    There was once a time I thought she was actually supposed to be an “intelligent conservative”.

    She was/is. It is an extremely low bar, with few contenders for the throne.

  33. 33
    Morzer says:

    @Richard Grant:

    A realist would say she’s completely full of it.

  34. 34
  35. 35
    Morzer says:

    @pzerzan:

    Freddie would never say that. He’d have to use a lot more words and the concept of “objective despicabilititudinousnessosity” would be deployed against EVIL BULLIES!!!

  36. 36
    HR Progressive says:

    @cckids:

    Certainly going to put my money on “Was”.

    I remember when she was on MSNBC, and I mean, I didn’t agree with her, but at least found her tolerable to listen to…which, again, extremely low bar…but there’s a lot of right wingers I literally cannot listen to speak, nails, chalkboard, etc.

    But now? Blech.

  37. 37
    jl says:

    Let me get this straight: telling SE Cupp that you disagree with her about some facts is bullying? How?

  38. 38
    The Moar You Know says:

    fuck it, let’s build a time machine. I’ll take the rap.

    @ranchandsyrup: 1984 here we come!

  39. 39
    Morzer says:

    @jl:

    Because BENGHAZI!!!

  40. 40
    Calouste says:

    @Phoenician in a time of Romans:

    I like that one. I sure will keep that in mind to use if I come across someone who think facts are just opinions.

  41. 41

    @The Moar You Know: @Hungry Joe: Wheeeee! Plus the padres were good that year. So was Van Halen.

  42. 42
  43. 43
    Origuy says:

    @Amir Khalid: Yeah, sorry, I was thinking of Tyson when I wrote that.

  44. 44
    Citizen_X says:

    @mellowjohn:

    you may think the glasses make you look smart

    Hey, come on, it works for Rick Perry.

  45. 45
    Just One More Canuck says:

    @scav: wrapped in bacon

  46. 46
    Citizen_X says:

    This goes along with Dana Perino’s line, highlighted the other day on the Colbert Report: “Hey, it would have been a good point if it were true.”

  47. 47
    Thursday says:

    “The science group”? Who the Sam Hill is that?

  48. 48
    PsiFighter37 says:

    I’d never heard of S.E. Cupp before this, and I’m glad I’ll continue to ignore her.

    Also, too, CNN hired this lady? No wonder they got shat on by everyone at the WHCD. They don’t deserve to be respected anymore.

  49. 49
    Violet says:

    @HR Progressive:

    There was once a time I thought she was actually supposed to be an “intelligent conservative”.

    That’s like the unicorn. Doesn’t exist.

  50. 50
    Cassidy says:

    She’s only gotten anywhere because of Bill Maher. I wish he’d just fuck her and dump her so we can be rid of her.

  51. 51
    Pogonip says:

    @The Moar You Know: Are you going to drive back to 1984 in a DeLorean?

  52. 52
    dan says:

    “I’m not a denier, but” just undermines whatever follows. Just like you know what’s coming when you hear “I’m not a racist, but … “

  53. 53

    @Pogonip: We don’t need roads where we’re going.

  54. 54
    Pogonip says:

    @PsiFighter37: I hadn’t heard of her either. I want to see her debate Sarah Palin. Hodor has agreed to moderate.

  55. 55
    PIGL says:

    SE Cupp? A slightly more presentable Atlas Juggs. Going for the sexy librarian look, in contrast to the considerably more aged Anne Coulter’s coked-out, cocktail-dress sleaze. There’s not enough booze in the world to get me do ’em, jointly or severally. There’s not even enough blow.

    If you want them mango’s, head over to sadlyno.

  56. 56
    Patricia Kayden says:

    “Isn’t it a problem when science guys attempt to bully other people?” Cupp asked Nye.

    Bullying by giving people the facts of global warming? Really?

  57. 57
    sm*t cl*de says:

    An Objectivist claims the right to her own facts? Nope, didn’t see that coming.

  58. 58
    chopper says:

    that bill nye, what a huge bully. I’ll be the kicks sand in dudes’ faces on the beach and everything.

    seriously, what a hack. “I clearly don’t know what I’m talking about, so that makes you a bully”

  59. 59
    Hal says:

    Her entire act and look seem so affected. The glasses,the initials instead of a first name, the tailored look that says I’m a smart, young professional.

    Also, my fave exchange:

    http://astrodidact.tumblr.com/.....-crossfire

  60. 60
    Shana says:

    @ranchandsyrup: You have my sympathy. My synagogue has Bill Kristol and Elliot Abrams as members so I feel your pain.

  61. 61
    Hungry Joe says:

    @ranchandsyrup: We’re all in San Diego, right? You and Moar get to work on the time machine, and I’ll hit the thrift stores for some ’84-appropriate duds.

  62. 62

    @Shana: Yikes. Condolences.

    @Hungry Joe: Sounds good. :)

  63. 63
    Shana says:

    @ranchandsyrup: Thanks. Despite the fact that the vast majority of American jews are Democrats, politics is never a part of the sermons there.

  64. 64

    @Shana: I can see why that is. :)

  65. 65
    Pogonip says:

    @Shana: What are they like in person?

  66. 66
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @HR Progressive: What is sad is that she obviously has some intelligence, but she’s willingly given it up to be as bone ignorant as the rest of the scum in her momvement.

    These people willingly become sub-humans, willing give up whatever FSM granted talent or smarts they have to fit in with the vile tribe they’ve chosen to align themselves with. It’s like the old joke we told in the Army about someone being promoted to Major and then reporting to the post medical center for their field grade lobotomy.

  67. 67
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @PsiFighter37:

    Also, too, CNN hired this lady? No wonder they got shat on by everyone at the WHCD. They don’t deserve to be respected anymore.

    The best part of the WHCD was shots of Leslie Blitzer’s carved-in-granite face as barb after barb was launched at the wreckage of Ted Turner’s once great yacht, CNN,

  68. 68
    Hungry Joe says:

    @Shana: Your rabbi needs a little backbone: Part of repairing the world is calling out vicious destructos like those two. I suspect a good part of the congregation would love it.

  69. 69
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Citizen_X: Sarah Palin deliberately wears glasses as well, even though she’s had lasik surgery to correct her vision. Sarah thinks it makes her look smart.

  70. 70
    Gravenstone says:

    @Cassidy: That hasn’t rid the world of Ann Coulter now, has it?

  71. 71
    cokane says:

    Cupp isn’t dumb imo. She’s just another grifter who’s trying to fill the space occupied by Coulter. I doubt she believes half the shit she says. Just look at that debate with Nye, she’s not even arguing the denial side, just doing some unnecessary mental gymnastics to score points on a liberal scientist.

  72. 72
    Shana says:

    @Pogonip: Sorry I can’t say, I’ve never actually spoken to either one. I try to be elsewhere when possible.

  73. 73
    Shana says:

    @Hungry Joe: You’re right about the attitude of most of the congregation I suspect, but I also think it was probably made very clear when he was hired, as well as to our assistant rabbi, that it is a subject to be avoided.

  74. 74
    Pogonip says:

    @Shana: Can’t say I blame you!

  75. 75
    Mnemosyne says:

    @jl:

    Let me get this straight: telling SE Cupp that you disagree with her about some facts is bullying? How?

    Because telling her that she’s factually wrong is mean, and therefore bullying. QED.

  76. 76
    Phantom 309 says:

    @The Moar You Know: Hot Tub Time Machine!

  77. 77
    Chocko Rocko says:

    Pretty Mean Girl accuses science nerd of being a bully. I think my high school just imploded.

  78. 78
    brantl says:

    @Citizen_X: ANYTHING that covers up more of Rick Perry, makes him look smarter, as it shows less of Rick Perry, DUH.

  79. 79
    Paul in KY says:

    @The Moar You Know: You were the bigger man.

  80. 80
    Paul in KY says:

    @Shana: You poor devil…

  81. 81
    Paul in KY says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: I think they think they’re just playing a character for alot of money.

    They’re acting.

Comments are closed.