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I still have the battered copy of In the Shadow of Man from my teenage years. I’d be jealous of Colbert, if this interview wasn’t so charming!
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I still have the battered copy of In the Shadow of Man from my teenage years. I’d be jealous of Colbert, if this interview wasn’t so charming!
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srv
Why can’t commenters be more like monkeys?
NotMax
♥
SiubhanDuinne
Jane Goodall = hero(ine). That was lovely.
The audience clearly, and noisily, adored her. Nice. The kids are all right.
Ruckus
@SiubhanDuinne:
Be pretty hard not to like her. Bet you’d have to be a brain dead republican to pull that off.
trollhattan
It’s Jane’s world, we’re just visiting.
Worst houseguests ever.
? Martin
@Ruckus: Hmm. I think it’s more likely than you think.
Omnes Omnibus
@srv: Chimps aren’t monkeys and anyway isn’t enough poo thrown around here to meet your exacting standards?
Steeplejack
Watching Ferguson. Minor irritation: there’s a different book on Geoff’s table each night, and the camera shot is just far enough back that it’s often hard to get the title. Looks like a Harry Potter book tonight.
In addition to his well received memoir, Ferguson has written a novel or two. And he appears to be a reader.
Mnemosyne
@Omnes Omnibus:
There’s plenty being thrown in the thread below. I should probably check on my Sims and go to bed before I get drawn in.
Calming Influence
That was such a treat to see how Jane Goodall* interacted with Colbert. When I heard she was going to be a guest I was worried that she wouldn’t fare well – silly me.
*One of the big influences, along with Jacque Cousteau, in my becoming a biologist.
Ruckus
@? Martin:
The second sentence was my key.
Ruckus
@trollhattan:
Pretty much.
trollhattan
The Turtle brings the high, hard stuff. “What issue is most important to you?”
I know it’s pointless to note none of this has fvck all to do with, you know, running a government or helping the people or saving the planet, but what must it be like to live your entire life thinking in bumper sticker units?
http://wonkette.com/546112/mitch-mcconnell-wants-you-to-tell-him-what-issues-matter-as-long-as-theyre-guns-coal-bortion-and-obamacare#UiAJrjxXYMDepG8C.99
Ruckus
@trollhattan:
Little lives for little minds.
J.Ty
Obligatory Far Side:
http://ideonexus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/JaneGoodallFarSide.gif
NotMax
No insomniacs tonight?
Couple of stories which caught the eye.
Headlong dash to the past in Iraq.
Sadly predictable, the same tale surfaces with every conflict. And each time, no indication anyone in a position to plan and provide is the least bit aware of nor gives the slightest notice to the repetition of history.
MikeJ
@NotMax: You want them to clean up Afghanistan? They still haven’t cleaned up Hanford and that’s from WWII.
You’ll be happy to know that the onsite clinic run by the company that’s supposed to be cleaning it up says there’s nothing really wrong with the workers who were exposed to fumes and now have nosebleeds that won’t stop.
Of course we can’t get enough funding to get it cleaned up before the massive plume of radioactive waste that’s underground hits the Columbia river, because if it got cleaned, Obama might get the credit.
NotMax
@MikeJ
It’s not either/or (and I don’t think you meant to imply it is). Hanford, being a federal nuclear facility, is a different kettle of fish, but that’s not in any way an excuse for the procrastination and foot-dragging. what gets my goat is the sheer predictability of stories about the situations and of the total lack of preparation.
Bombing ranges can be cleaned up. Kahoolawe, an entire uninhabited island here used as a target by the Navy for about half a century, was done in about 5 years.
raven
@NotMax: Well, it’s a pretty small “entire” island!
raven
@NotMax: Here it is!
OzarkHillbilly
Hmmmmm…
Sandy Hook Elementary: 26 dead, 0 injured
Franklin Regional: 0 dead, 20 injured
Can’t wait for the gun nut spin on this one.
raven
“Both sides”. Mika.
Baud
@raven:
On which issue? Or has the Village moved past caring?
raven
@Baud: equal pay
Keith G
While I adamantly opposed most of his choices, I have always liked George H W Bush. Like many Houstonians, I have had a chance to meet him and Barbara and have always thought him to be a very gracious man.
Here he is going out of his way to show the GOP how adults are supposed to act.
Botsplainer
Oh fuck me.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/08/opinion/brooks-what-suffering-does.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0
Thus speaketh the comfortable white guy.
Schlemizel
I read once that Jane Goodall, Diane Fossey and their unheralded third, Mary Galdikas were all set off on their work by the same professor. Each chose a large primate (chimp, ape, orangutan) and lived their lives with them to teach us about all we know of our nearest relatives. I would love to hear the story of that guy or really how these three exceptions women chose the life they did.
NotMax
@raven
45 square miles.
And nice photo!
Baud
@Botsplainer:
And the most ennobling suffering of all is a tax on capital gains! #thingsyoullneverreadinthenyt
Baud
@raven:
How the hell is that issue both sides? Because of Pryor and Manchin?
NotMax
@raven
And IIRC, the ordnance clearing groups were also small – no more than a couple dozen people maximum allowed on the island at any time.
OzarkHillbilly
@Schlemizel: His name was Leakey, Louis Leakey, and I would be surprised if you did not already know more than a little about him. ;-)
Keith G
@Botsplainer:
And thus speaketh almost all spiritual belief systems – the vast majority of which were not developed by comfortable white guys (or gals).
OzarkHillbilly
@Schlemizel:
A wiki link relating to the 4 of them specifically:
The Trimates,[1][2] sometimes called Leakey’s Angels,[3] is a name given to three women — Jane Goodall, Dian Fossey,[4] and Birutė Galdikas — sent by anthropologist Louis Leakey to study primates in their natural environments. They studied chimpanzees, gorillas and orangutans respectively.
I should note that when I was growing up, I was a National Geographic junkie, awaiting each issue with bated breath and never missing a show. Those who weren’t could well not know his name, sad but true. :-(
Schlemizel
@OzarkHillbilly: SERIOUSLY!?!
I read this whole story about how odd it was that this one prof could have affected these three women so deeply and how that changed the world we live in etc & the author never bothered to mention that? AAARRRRG
Frankensteinbeck
@Keith G:
Technically true, but the moral lesson taken was almost always the opposite. Until 20th century Christianity, the lesson was usually ‘suffering has made you a better person, so you deserve better than assholes who have the easy life.’ Brooks is echoing the Republican Party line, which incidentally is the domestic abuser’s line. ‘I’m hurting you for your own good.’
Disclaimer: The moral message of Christianity may have been the above, but that doesn’t necessarily mean anybody did anything about it.
RSA
@Botsplainer:
Sometimes? Wow. I don’t think I’ve ever read anything more clueless (and even offensive) by Brooks.
On Jane Goodall, a few years ago I published a paper in the animal behavior literature and cited her work. That gave me a warm feeling.
Debbie(aussie)
@Botsplainer:
Didn’t help that quadriplegic legislator from Alabama(?). He hasn’t found any empathy or nobility. Lack of empathy seems ,to me, to be disease that has reached almost epidemic proportions. Sadly!
OzarkHillbilly
@Schlemizel: Wow. That is some epically bad writing.
Baud
@RSA:
It all depends on who’s doing the suffering.
RSA
@Baud:
Right. and as Botsplainer observes, it’s clearly not David Brooks. “I’m suffering, but I think I’ll wait a while before bringing it to an end. I’d like to be a little more noble.”
Emily68
@Schlemizel: You can read how Jane chose the life she did in Dale Peterson’s Jane Goodall: The Woman who Redefined Man I got at the library and read it last year.
Among other things, I learned that when Jane was a little girl she wondered what it looked like when a hen laid an egg. So she went in the hen house and sat as motionless as she could for hours until the hens got used to her and one was ready to lay and VOILA!! she saw an egg being laid.
I recommend the book.
Hillary Rettig
@Calming Influence: She is utterly unflappable, I’m guessing from decades of interacting with chimps.
Hillary Rettig
@Schlemizel: I think by Richard Leakey? I saw them all at the same time when they all came to Cornell to be on a panel!
Jack the Second
@RSA: Isn’t that basically how the seven-year-old’s mind works? I BET IF I DIED RIGHT NOW MOM AND DAD WOULD FEEL BAD ABOUT NOT LETTING ME HAVE CAKE FOR BREAKFAST.
Suffering brings parental pity brings cake, and therefore is desirable.
Gin & Tonic
@Jack the Second: Our grown daughter, a happy and well-adjusted woman, a few years ago commented favorably on the fact that we allowed her to have chocolate cake for breakfast when she wanted to. We never viewed food as a weapon or a bribe, and our children are now healthy, omnivorous and have no weight problems, eating disorders or food phobias.
Amir Khalid
@Hillary Rettig:
Not Richard Leakey, but his father, as OzarkHillbilly #32 notes.
Mnemosyne
@J.Ty:
Apparently, when that cartoon was published, the Jane Goodall Institute freaked out and started drafting a letter for their lawyers to send to Larson. Larson felt terrible that he had hurt the feelings of someone he admired.
And then Goodall stepped forward and basically told the Institute, “Lighten up, Francis.” She thought the cartoon was hilarious. She ended up writing the foreword for one of Larson’s books and he was able to visit her in Africa and see the chimps. Happy ending!
Mnemosyne
Also, too, I got to hear Goodall speak one time because she has an institute at my undergrad alma mater, the University of Southern California. Suck on it, UCLA!
Paul in KY
@Keith G: Alot of them were created by the ‘white guys’ of their day & culture.