Dumb From Coast to Coast

I realize that quoting Republican state legislators in red states is just a shot away from  nutpicking, but it isn’t just CPAC where the crazy shit is being said:

JUNEAU, ALASKA — A state senator says he doesn’t think access to contraception is a problem in Alaska.

In a floor speech, Republican Sen. Fred Dyson said he researched the issue after a colleague suggested the number of abortions could be reduced by improving access to contraception. […]
Dyson says sexual activity is largely “recreation” and the public shouldn’t be required to finance “other people’s recreation.”

This makes sense because Viagra isn’t “recreation”, it’s a fucking sacrament.

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116 replies
  1. 1
    EconWatcher says:

    He’ll get in trouble with his own side for this. It’s not recreation. It’s strictly for procreation. Any pleasure is an unfortunate and shameful side effect, to be avoided if at all possible, particularly for the female partner.

  2. 2
    Doug says:

    Re-creation. Indeed.

  3. 3
    c u n d gulag says:

    “Honey, the CPAC Circus just hit our town for 3 days.
    QUICK!!!
    HIDE THE CHILDREN AND THE DOGS!!!!!”

  4. 4
    muricafukyea says:

    Funny how you haven’t masturbated over Snowden/Griftwald lately. Also funny how you haven’t asked why your hero of freedom from oppressive gov’t’s Snowden hasn’t denounced Putin’s violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty.

    I know the answer of course. You’re just a kid, you don’t have a clue what you are talking about.

  5. 5
    EconWatcher says:

    @muricafukyea:

    Trolling is one thing, but off-topic trolling? Have we no standards?

  6. 6
    beltane says:

    How can they reconcile their belief in the sanctity of marriage with their belief that the s*xual act is no different than playing Flapping Birds for five minutes? I am confused.

  7. 7
    Svensker says:

    @EconWatcher:

    You do realize who you’re talking to, don’t you?

  8. 8
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    There is no stupid like the stupid that resides in the Missouri House and Senate.

  9. 9
    ppcli says:

    So I guess we’ll no longer be giving millions upon millions for football stadiums.

  10. 10
    Elizabelle says:

    @beltane:

    You need to comment on some Alaska news sites!

    LOL and get there promptly. Reason is on your side.

  11. 11
    greennotGreen says:

    This is somewhat tangential, but it has occurred to me that if a woman has an unplanned or “accidental” pregnancy, she must carry it to term at whatever her personal cost, and someone must pay to rear the resulting child for eighteen years (or longer if the child is severely disabled.)

    But if someone exercising (the second part of the) Second Amendment rights accidentally shoots someone else, it was just an accident, sorry, continue about your business.

    I don’t understand conservatives.

  12. 12
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @greennotGreen: It’s all about personal responsibility.

    (hits sarcasm off button)

  13. 13
    Suffern ACE says:

    @beltane: I don’t have that sinful out if wedlock sex. Sluts do that.

    He isn’t hypocritical. He should not have to pay for sinners to have recreational sex. Just lik he shouldn’t have to pay for scamming welfare cheats who use drugs.

  14. 14
    Eric U. says:

    @Svensker: Is it DougJ or is Mistermix trolling his own threads?

  15. 15
    RuhRow_Gyro says:

    Access to contraception really isn’t that tough. It costs like under $10 per month to purchase birth control pills. Women are smart enough to work jobs that pay this much money. Most of them really aren’t that dumb.

  16. 16
    Fuzzy says:

    To solve all problems in this nation a test of precise drone strikes will occur at an unnamed convention center in MD in the early morning hours.

  17. 17
    beltane says:

    @Suffern ACE: The gentleman’s stridency suggests that sex isn’t a recreational activity that appeals to him. I feel the same way about golf so I can see where he’s coming from.

  18. 18
    aimai says:

    @greennotGreen: Because “personal responsibility” does not mean what you think it ought to mean.

  19. 19
    MomSense says:

    Wait a member of the Alaskan legislature doesn’t want to finance recreation?? So does that principle apply to tourism, hunting, fishing, hiking, trapping, skiing, and snow machining?

  20. 20
    aimai says:

    @RuhRow_Gyro: Actually, you need to have a doctor prescribe them for you, and be networked into a medical system. And they can have side effects and they can be prescribed for medical conditions other than pregnancy prevention. This has nothing to do with stupid/not stupid except insofar as your comment leads me to suspect something about you.

  21. 21
    NotMax says:

    “other people’s recreation.”

    How precious. Let’s keep those “other people” out of national parks, too.

  22. 22
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    And yesterday in “Dumb” I found this: Russell Crowe film ‘Noah’ edited to appease Christians upset by ‘historical inaccuracies’

    Yeah, you read that right.

    (via LGM)

  23. 23
    MomSense says:

    @RuhRow_Gyro:

    $10?? Maybe in ’62.

  24. 24
    boatboy_srq says:

    At least it’s a consistent argument with privatising the National Park system.

    /snark

    @NotMax: I see you beat me to it.

  25. 25
    Gin & Tonic says:

    I know the arguments from the left side often contain something along the lines of “but why is V!@gra covered, then?” I know it’s great for snark, but health insurance plans seldom if ever cover any of the cost of those types of medications, which are expensive, so it’s not an accurate argument.

  26. 26
    RuhRow_Gyro says:

    Women are very smart and most can figure out how to find a doctor’s office. If they are unemployed and haven’t found a man with a job, they can get free medical care through a program called Medicaid. I think you get free pills too if you are on that program, but am not totally sure.

  27. 27
    Linda Featheringill says:

    The public isn’t paying for birth control measures. The insurance companies same lots of money by providing that protection.

    The earth is not flat.

    The sun and the moon, but mainly the moon, cause tides.

    Eclipses are not a sign that God is having a temper tantrum.

    Damn!

    ETA: Yeah, I know. It’s not about the money, it’s about the war on women.

  28. 28
    Amir Khalid says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    What happens if Jews and Muslims then start griping about inaccuracies in the edited film? Another trip to the edit room?

  29. 29
    flukebucket says:

    He needs to have a conversation with Jerome Corsi. If you want to have fun read a book. Sex is not for fun.

  30. 30
    Gin & Tonic says:

    @RuhRow_Gyro: First rule of holes, dude.

  31. 31
    flukebucket says:

    @MomSense:

    $10?? Maybe in ’62.

    LOL! That is exactly what I was thinking. I know of a case where it was $60.00 per month without insurance and $75.00 per month with insurance. Damn.

  32. 32
    Gin & Tonic says:

    @flukebucket: Sex is not for fun.

    I think I’ve been doing it wrong, then.

  33. 33
    RuhRow_Gyro says:

    I’m aware of the world’s oldest profession Gin and Tonic, but believe that there are other options for women in modern America. They can be completely self-sufficient these days, if they want to and choose to work hard. They can teach school, or even become doctors.

  34. 34
    hilts says:

    OT

    Darrell Issa comments on his latest douchebag behavior:

    “Mr. Cummings is a member of Congress who works very hard for his constituents… I could have offered to reopen the hearing and allowed him to make a second statement… As chairman, I should have been much more sensitive to the mood of what was going on, and I take responsibility.”

    http://www.utsandiego.com/news.....gs-apology

  35. 35
    beltane says:

    @RuhRow_Gyro: Hi, DougJ. Hope all is well this morning.

  36. 36
    MomSense says:

    @RuhRow_Gyro:

    Thanks so much for mansplaining that for us. Probably hasn’t occurred to you that the more you write about this subject the more out of touch you reveal yourself to be.

  37. 37
    dr. luba says:

    @RuhRow_Gyro:

    Women are very smart and most can figure out how to find a doctor’s office. If they are unemployed and haven’t found a man with a job, they can get free medical care through a program called Medicaid. I think you get free pills too if you are on that program, but am not totally sure.

    Perhaps in a blue states, where Medicaid is available to all poor people, including the working poor, and Planned Parenthood clinics dot the bucolic landscape.

    But red states? Fuggedaboutit.

  38. 38
    geg6 says:

    @flukebucket:

    Granted, it’s been fifteen years or so since I took bc pills, but I was paying $30 a month with insurance back then. My niece tells me it costs about $80-$90 today. Or it did, until the ACA.

  39. 39
    aimai says:

    @Gin & Tonic: What about P**** pumps? Medicare is covering them. Also: contraception prevents pregnancy, a health care risk to women and their families and a high cost to the insurance company. It is better compared not to Viagra but to smoking cessation, wellness, and preventitive health care costs which are quite legitimately undertaken by insurance companies.

  40. 40
    Suffern ACE says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: I was wondering where that would start. There is no dialogue in the Noah story in the Bible. That is going to create the need for a lot of filler. And my guess is that kind of creative license isn’t going to sit well.

  41. 41
    Jerzy Russian says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: You owe me a handful of brain cells.

  42. 42
    Matt says:

    Shorter Sen. Dyson: “Further, I’m pretty sure it’s mostly solo recreation – every woman I try to talk about it with tells me to ‘go fuck myself’.”

  43. 43
    C.V. Danes says:

    I’m always amused when people are surprised when awful people say awful things.

    These are awful people. Awful people say awful things. They should be loudly called out when they say awful things so that there is no doubt to their awfulness. But they will always be awful people who say awful things. The only thing you can do is encourage them to climb back under their rocks and stay there.

  44. 44
    MomSense says:

    @flukebucket:

    Yeah it was $75 for me per month. If only I could have found a man because of course all men have insurance and all insurance companies covered birth control.

  45. 45
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @RuhRow_Gyro: Ring ring… real world calling for RR-G…

    Hmmm, no answer.

  46. 46
    aimai says:

    I’m in moderation for mentioning pumps associated with sex for geriatrics but I’llforge on and repeat myself:

    Medicare is covering them. Also: contraception prevents pregnancy, a health care risk to women and their families and a high cost to the insurance company. It is better compared not to V*.* but to smoking cessation, wellness, and preventitive health care costs which are quite legitimately undertaken by insurance companies.

  47. 47
    dmsilev says:

    @RuhRow_Gyro:
    Has JenBob from LGM oozed its way over here? The “logic” style seems awfully familiar to me.

  48. 48
    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism says:

    @geg6: Wow, I was paying out of pocket for mine through the 80s and 90s because they were less than my insurance co-pay of $20.

  49. 49
    Gin & Tonic says:

    @RuhRow_Gyro: If you’re going to troll here, you’ve got to do better than this Washington Generals-level stuff.

  50. 50
    Citizen_X says:

    @RuhRow_Gyro: Scooby! Get off the computer!

    Sorry folks, he’s a dog.

    /Shaggy

  51. 51
    dmsilev says:

    @geg6:

    My niece tells me it costs about $80-$90 today. Or it did, until the ACA.

    I’m confused about the proper conservative response here. Should I be blaming Obama or Sandra Fluke?

  52. 52
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @dmsilev: when in doubt, blame both. Hillary too.

  53. 53
    maximiliano furtive, formerly known as dr. bloor says:

    Fred Dyson said he researched the issue

    I’m guessing that word does not mean what he thinks it means.

  54. 54
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @dmsilev:

    Should I be blaming Obama or Sandra Fluke?

    Yes.

  55. 55
    Citizen_X says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Russell Crowe film ‘Noah’ edited to appease Christians upset by ‘historical inaccuracies’

    So, it’s canceled?

  56. 56
    Cassidy says:

    @RuhRow_Gyro: ….and you overplayed your hand. Successful trolling for fun requires patience and while I admire your schtick you’ve got to be careful not to fit too much parody in to just a few comments. Take your time. Let it breathe.

  57. 57
    Biscuits says:

    @greennotGreen:

    Maybe if she were to shoot someone accidentally while she was having recreational sexytime…it would all cancel out?

  58. 58
    amk says:

    @RuhRow_Gyro: Not a clever nym for a limpaugh cock sucker. #Troglodyte

  59. 59
    Cassidy says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: I went to bed last night. I think you were looking for a song by Common with Will.i.am.

  60. 60
    scav says:

    Why is everyone playing with such a clearly fifth rate flamebait?
    Amuse yourself no end, but I’d rather see it done with a more talented partner. This one sounds as stilted and canned as dialog in a tedious afterschool drama.

  61. 61
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Cassidy: No. I am familiar with Common. This was an artist I hadn’t heard of. Thanks though.

  62. 62
    Joey Maloney says:

    @Gin & Tonic: When you’re in one, stop recreating?

  63. 63
    dmsilev says:

    @maximiliano furtive, formerly known as dr. bloor: The research probably involved visiting some of the Internet’s less reputable web sites. Extensive research was undoubtedly required.

  64. 64
    GregB says:

    Besides if these kids get their contraceptives from the government instead of their parents they’ll feel unloved.

    I propose that we start brown bagging government provided contraception so that these young folks will feel loved.

  65. 65
    beltane says:

    @scav: I see your point, but if this troll is going to stick around for any length of time we might as well do what we can to improve its performance.

  66. 66
    Chyron HR says:

    Once the GOP locks down the coveted demographic of men who want their casual sex partners to get pregnant, their electoral domination is assured. SCARED YET LIBS?

  67. 67
    Ben Cisco says:

    @Gin & Tonic: No kidding.

    Hey Sparky, we don’t do AAA ball here.

  68. 68
    scav says:

    @beltane: Ah! I had forgotten the possible learning experience charity aspect.

  69. 69

    New troll or an old troll with a new nym?

  70. 70
    gbear says:

    @Biscuits: Praying Mantis style.

  71. 71
    Amir Khalid says:

    Off-topic, but this will be of interest to those interested in Malaysian politics:
    Prosecutors have won an appeal against Anwar Ibrahim’s acquittal on sodomy charges. This puts a kink in his plan to contest a by-election in Selangor and maybe take over the state’s Mentri Besar (chief minister) post from a PKR rival.

  72. 72
    Higgs Boson's Mate says:

    I realize that quoting Republican state legislators in red states is just a shot away from nutpicking…

    More like shooting a sitting duck.

  73. 73
    japa21 says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Actually, most insurance companies do cover those ED drugs. Most require pre-approval, which can be a pain in the neck for the office staff. And they may not be at the lowest co-pay part of the formulary, but they do get covered.
    My wife, who is a nurse in a doctor’s office loves Fridays. That is the day all the calls come in for prescriptions for those drugs so that the guys are prepared for the weekend, just in case they get lucky.

  74. 74
    Bobby Thomson says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Never stiff Madame Zeroni?

  75. 75
    Yatsuno says:

    @Ben Cisco: I hope JC kept the receipt this time. Then again they keep refusing to take Durf back even though we keep trying.

  76. 76
    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Amir Khalid: Hasn’t he been re-convicted and re-acquitted several times already? Does this ever end?

  77. 77
    Higgs Boson's Mate says:

    @japa21:

    That is the day all the calls come in for prescriptions for those drugs so that the guys are prepared for the weekend, just in case they get lucky to nobly father a fair-skinned, Real American Christian Child and that’s all.

    Fixed for inadequate Republicanism.

  78. 78
    amk says:

    @Amir Khalid: Talk about political vendatta. At this point, it has become more of a farce.

  79. 79
    Amir Khalid says:

    @Gin & Tonic:
    This is only the second round of sodomy charges against Anwar. Nobody here seriously believes he’s gay or bisexual. They didn’t get him on the sodomy charge in 1998, only on exerting undue influence on the cops for which he served six years.

    As long as Barisan is in power and believes Anwar is the greatest threat to its hold on power, no, this is not going to end. If he loses his appeal to the Federal Court and goes to jail again, someone will succeed him as Pakatan Rakyat leader. That person then becomes the new target.

  80. 80
    Gin & Tonic says:

    @japa21: Interesting. The pharmacist in my family says the overwhelming majority of retail purchases are out-of-pocket.

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    shelly says:

    And yesterday in “Dumb” I found this: Russell Crowe film ‘Noah’ edited to appease Christians upset by ‘historical inaccuracies’

    And they’re probably still waitin for the remains of the ark to be found on Mt. Ararat.

  82. 82
    Higgs Boson's Mate says:

    @shelly:

    And they’re probably still waitin for the remains of the ark to be found on Mt. Ararat.

    To be fair, they do have a point; Noah never threw a telephone at the giraffes.

  83. 83
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    That person then becomes the new target.

    What? Al Qaeda’s new #2 man?

  84. 84
    Chris says:

    @shelly:

    Idiots.

    The Ark’s been collecting dust in a U.S. government warehouse since 1936. Everybody knows that.

    … oh, Noah’s Ark! Right.

  85. 85
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Higgs Boson’s Mate: Imagine the outrage from the right if Bill Cosby did “Noah” today?

  86. 86
    Origuy says:

    @Gin & Tonic: My health insurance covers the V pill as a tier 3 medication, meaning that the co-pay is $70 for 6 pills. That’s about half the cost without insurance.

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    GxB says:

    @Cassidy: [Sniff] It’s so nice to see one of the BJ regulars take the time to nurture and encourage a budding troll. Especially when its a problem as sensitive as premature articulation.

  88. 88
    Higgs Boson's Mate says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    And how sad is that? One of the most, to me, disturbing aspects of contemporary conservatism is that the bastards seem to have absolutely no sense of humor. In my book that makes them slightly less dangerous than a rabid skunk.

  89. 89
    PurpleGirl says:

    @RuhRow_Gyro: Medicaid IS NOT FREE care. A person still has to pay for appointments, although the cost may be reduced. There are rules for getting Medicaid and you have to eligible. You may be low income but still have too “high” an income to be eligible.

  90. 90
    Higgs Boson's Mate says:

    @GxB:

    “premature articulation” Well played!

  91. 91
    Amir Khalid says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    Well, the Malaysian equivalent thereof.

  92. 92
    Cassidy says:

    @GxB: Bravo /theater clap

  93. 93
    Ruckus says:

    @GxB:
    Way to stay on topic. Golf clap.

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    Cervantes says:

    @MomSense:

    $10?? Maybe in ’62.

    The first oral contraceptive in the US — Enovid — was available in 1960. It cost about a hundred dollars. Most women could not afford it — presuming they could obtain it at all: at the time female contraception was illegal in many states. Only after Griswold v. Connecticut (1965) was it available to wives in all states (at which point the price dropped to about thirty dollars); unmarried women had to wait until after Eisenstadt v. Baird (1972).

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    cane giallo says:

    @Suffern ACE: Are they going to show Noah drunk and naked in the final scene?

  96. 96
    cane giallo says:

    @Cervantes: I got them in 1967 or thereabouts when I was in college (and unmarried). I don’t remember how much they cost though but $30/month would have been a BIG hit on my available funds. I don’t think the school health plan paid for them.

  97. 97
    gelfling545 says:

    @geg6: I took them in the 70’s – 80’s & my (excellent) insurance at the time did not cover them and I believe that was not unusual. I paid about $50/month which, if you are working a minimum wage job, may as well be $500.

  98. 98
    Cervantes says:

    @cane giallo: Sure. In 1967, what state were you in? The law varied from state to state. Also, the prices I mentioned were Enovid at retail, but Planned Parenthood (for example) had a (small) number of clinics that offered Enovid at discounted prices.

  99. 99
    Goblue72 says:

    @beltane: can we express its anal glands?

  100. 100
    japa21 says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Many are because they don’t get the approval. Kind of like all insurances cover heart transplants, but that doesn’t mean that you don’t have to prove you need it.

  101. 101
    Cervantes says:

    JUNEAU, ALASKA — A state senator says he doesn’t think access to contraception is a problem in Alaska.

    He might not think so but let’s ask his mother what her experience was …

  102. 102
    Bex says:

    @greennotGreen: As Barney Frank once said, for conservatives “life begins at conception and ends at birth.”

  103. 103
    Cervantes says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Prosecutors have won an appeal against Anwar Ibrahim’s acquittal on sodomy charges.

    Can’t say I’m surprised. The whole system is far more crooked than he ever was.

  104. 104
    c u n d gulag says:

    I think I smell pancakes.

    I think JenBob’s trolling here today.

  105. 105
    Cervantes says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: When someone argues that the Old Testament is not the word of Christ, do their heads explode?

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    No, bringing to light things that Republican state legislators say is not nutpicking. These people are elected officeholders who write laws for their states. Many of them go on to win seats in the U.S. House or Senate, or to win governorships. These are among the most capable of wingnuts; you have to have something on the ball to win a seat in a state legislature. Just because few people know who the hell they are doesn’t mean they aren’t important, or that they don’t speak for many people.

    I know that often it feels like nutpicking, since so many of these turds say such utterly fucked up shit. And, in all truth, they aren’t as smooth as most federal officeholders, who have learned, or at least most of them have, that there are times they need to keep their mouths shut. But if state legislatures are the laboratory of government, then Republican state legislators are the laboratories of Republican policy. We need to be loud about pointing at these people as serious power-holders, since they are.

  107. 107
    dr. luba says:

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:

    Wow, I was paying out of pocket for mine through the 80s and 90s because they were less than my insurance co-pay of $20.

    The price depended (and still depends) on several factors:

    1. Brand name or generic? The generics are much cheaper. But not everyone can take them, and sometimes the newer formulations help with associated issues (e.g. acne).

    2. Where do you buy them? If you get them thorugh Planned Parenthood, they are much cheaper. A retail pharmacy? Be prepared to pay through the nose.

    3. What does your insurance cover? Some don’t cover at all, others will only cover certain formulations (e.g. generics). Most nowadays have tiers of coverage.

    IIRC, pills were about $15 a pack back in the 80s. My insurance co-pay was $2, but didn’t cover pills. In the days when I had an office practice, the pharmaceutical companies sampled quite generously. I would give 3 packs to all patients starting pills, or changing to a new pill. If they did well, they’d get a prescription.

    I was lucky in that most of my patients belonged to an HMO that covered OCPs. As prices rose dramatically, I found myself handing out 12 packs of the pills to those patients withough coverage, since most of them were working poor or lower end of middle class, and would have had trouble affording them.

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    Cervantes says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Oh, and was the film actually “edited”? What I read suggested only that a “disclaimer” was added and the marketing materials were altered.

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    catclub says:

    @Cervantes: I read that, too. The filmmaker is getting some extra attention by mentioning that they were ‘pressured’.

    Also, why do words like filmmaker and withhold have double letters. Maybe I should write a letter to Mark Twain about this orthography.

    Bookkeeper has three sets of double letters. I would like to double the p just for completeness.

  110. 110
    Svensker says:

    @Eric U.:

    No, it’s Derf, I think, although maybe Timmeh. I’ve lost track and don’t care a whole lot.

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    fidelio says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: I hate to disagreee, and I do get regular updates on the Jeff City Follies from my family, but you haven’t seen either the Tennessee Lege, the Alabama Lege, or the Missisippi Lege in action from close up.

    However, much as I hate to say it, I think the Missouri Lege was actually less toxic in the 1960s amd 1970s than it is now, and they had some real jewels in there back then..

  112. 112
    Bill D. says:

    @catclub:

    I would like to double the p just for completeness.

    Can’t. One of the few really consistent rules of English vowel pronunciation is that a double consonant is preceded by a *short* vowel sound. Thus, doubling the p means you’d have bookkepper. An exception is if the double consonant is due to two words having been smooshed together, so the double k in bookkeeper doesn’t count under this rule.

    This is why randomly doubling consonants in names just for cuteness doesn’t work as intended. This often changes the grammatically correct pronunciation, which probably was not intended in most cases.

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    Ian says:

    @MomSense:
    I think you just won the internet for the day.

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    Ian says:

    @RuhRow_Gyro:
    Well fuck me. While we are at it, lets build a castle and have serfs! We can go back to bloodletting as a medical pratice, cutting down all the trees for fire wood, killing all the deer for food, and beating our neighbors heads with clubs.

    If you want to live in a feudal lifestyle, go play age of empires. You can have all the fun you want, and leave the rest of us in reality.

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    Ian says:

    @Suffern ACE:
    Wheres the female unicorn? Did you bring it? No, I was supposed to bring it? Fuck…

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @RuhRow_Gyro:

    I’m aware of the world’s oldest profession Gin and Tonic, but believe that there are other options for women in modern America. They can be completely self-sufficient these days, if they want to and choose to work hard. They can teach school, or even become doctors.

    So every married woman in America who uses birth control is by definition a whore?

    You must be fun at parties.

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