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Via valued commenter OzarkHillbilly, Stephen Colbert, national treasure, encourages people to send evidence of their gayness to Rep. Steve King:

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Colbert also encouraged those who submit Gay Evidence to mark envelopes “Campaign Contributions” so King would be sure to open them. Genius.

114 replies
  1. 1
    Elizabelle says:

    The Lord takes away a functioning US media.

    But He or She gives us Stephen Colbert.

    Have to be happy with that.

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    Forked Tongue says:

    A great American.

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    c u n d gulag says:

    I have an idea:
    As a compromise, let’s just let every person decide what he/she wants to serve to whom in public places, according to each person’s individual biases, prejudices, or intolerances – for ANY reason whatsoever.
    Religious, ethnic, gender, etc.

    Christian bakers won’t have to make cakes for gays.
    Jewish waiters won’t have to serve bacon, pork, sausage, lobster, shrimp, etc., to Christians.
    Gays won’t have to serve heterosexuals.
    Agnostic and Atheist waiters can decline to serve church/mosque/temple/etc, groups, out for a Sunday brunch after their services.
    Mono-fiberist’s won’t have to serve anyone wearing clothing of two or more fibers.

    Atlas will, of course, SHRIEK when someone decides not to serve him.

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    Shakezula says:

    I am not surprised to see King picking up an argument that has had the shit kicked out of it on countless occasions.

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    BGinCHI says:

    Nice to see the Pope way to the left of King and these other bigots/homophobes.

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    Howard Beale IV says:

    Kinky Friedman is in a runoff in Texas.

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    David Hunt says:

    @Forked Tongue:

    A great American

    “A Great American” or “The Greatest American?”

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    jl says:

    @Shakezula: Are you sure. The U.S. is an Xtianist nation, as the Constitution, Washington, Madison, Jefferson and Adams intended.

    Predestination and unconditional election makes each person’s religion an immutable characteristic. Only God can see it (theoretically), but clearly people like King are close enough to tell.

    All fits together for me.


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    catclub says:

    @David Hunt: “I am America, and you can too.”

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    catclub says:

    @Howard Beale IV: Also Kesha Rogers.

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    the Conster says:

    What a fucking moron, and so are the idiots who keep voting for him. How does he manage to dress himself?

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    Howard Beale IV says:

    @catclub: Eeesh.

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    DaveinMaine says:

    Clinton compares Putin to Hitler

    Guess the triangulation to the center for 2016 is underway…

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    ruemara says:

    That is seriously funny business. Ok, I’m having real technical quandary. The portable backup drive I bought did not work, so I returned it. I was thinking that I should buy a good case and a good WD green drive- a starter kit towards the 2x3t system I want. Then I thought I thinking like I’ll be living like a real person in a few months and maybe I should get a blue-ray drive instead. I can’t decide what to do. I want a stable backup system but I’m drowning in what ifs and info. Total derp.

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    Mike E says:

    @David Hunt: Beat me to it…certainly the greatest satirist in these parts.

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    slag says:

    @Forked Tongue: and a surprisingly elegant First Lady of France!

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    jl says:

    Forget about Ukraine/Russia spat, asteroids hitting the earth, ObamaHilterCare.

    Global warming induced Rock Snot is on the march and it will engulf the world. It’s The Blob, except this time it’s real!

    ‘Rock Snot’ Infestation Caused by Climate Change, Study Suggests

    Edit: Didymo. You know anything called didymo (for reals) has to be bad. That could a Dr. Evil, or even a supervillain name in a movie.

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    @DaveinMaine: The people who are crushing on Vlad are not going to vote for Hillary, any way. What the hell is she thinking?

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    Howard Beale IV says:

    @ruemara: If you go BluRay get a drive and media using M-Disc.

    Toshiba makes 1 TB 2.5″ for about $60-70.

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    danimal says:

    It won’t be fun for Rep. King’s staff in the coming weeks… But it’s a free country, and they accepted employment with Iowa’s biggest pile of bovine droppings, so I don’t feel too bad for them as they open their campaign contributions.

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    kdaug says:

    Apropos de nada: This has been my earworm this afternoon.

    (One of those that you hear from somewhere deep in the recesses, and then you have to look it up, and then dance you around for a bit and scare the dog).

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    Trollhattan says:


    Don’t think I’d go the blu-ray route unless you want offsite storage of data “snapshots.” Your two-drive route sounds like a good one, and you can make it RAID1 if you want redundancy. How much “stuff” are we talking about and how often would you need to back up?

    I kill gobs of storage space with photography and my system is import to PC HD with a second copy to an external drive. Back up both weekly on a network server. Yearly, move the PC HD photos to a second external HD, clearing space for the next year.

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    Mike in NC says:

    @DaveinMaine: Front page of USA Today has headline “Putin Blinks” alongside another article stating “Clinton’s negative image softens”.

    More good news for conservatives? Let the spin begin…

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    Tara the Antisocial Social Worker says:

    I confess. My same-sex relationship is decades-long plot (OK, almost 2 decades) to force people like Steve King to discriminate against me, for my nefarious purposes, bwahahaha!

    Because there wouldn’t be enough discrimination in the world otherwise.

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    Suffern ACE says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: I think what she said ended with “Yeah, its what Hilter said, but this isn’t really Munich.” I’d be more concerned if she said “Well, duh. If we’d have bombed Syria, the Russian’s would never have done this.” or “This is why I told Obama to put Ukraine in NATO”.

    I guess Hitler is the only nationalist leader ever who used the “protect my people” button as a pretext to invade. I guess no one else has ever heard of such a thing.

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    Mike E says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: Well, to point out that those who desire a leader with that certain kind of “Fuehrer” thing should NOT carry signs of Obama with that kind of mustache. Maybe?

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    Calouste says:

    @Suffern ACE:

    I’m pretty sure that the US has started at least one of their wars with Mexico using the “protect our people” button, not to mention quite a few wars with the Native Americans.

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    Suffern ACE says:

    @Calouste: It’s how we took over Hawaii.

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    p.a. says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: Were you paying attention in 2007-2008? The people she surrounded (surrounds?) herself with? DLC scammers. Poor field work, poor campaigner who ended up resorting to dog-whistle politics.

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    KG says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: it’s the scorpion and the swan… it’s her nature to be a hawk… eh, seemed to have crossed the metaphors there.

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    AnonPhenom says:

    “you can’t discriminate…based upon…race creed, religion, color of skin those kind of things. There’s nothing…there on self professed behavior”

    self professed behavior? You mean like religion is a self professed behavior?

    Logic motherfucker, how does that work?

    ‘the information goes in, the idiocy goes out….you can’t explain that’

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    MikeJ says:

    @Trollhattan: I’d go with RAID. I’ve lost drives in the past and even when you have backups it’s a pain in the ass to restore. Drives are cheap, and $150 to know that every time you write it’s going to two independent drives will help you sleep at night.

    Offsite backup is still a nice idea too, but you can limit that to your home directory partition (or c:/users/* on windows). Save large files that don’t change often to a blu-ray (photo, music, video collections) and backup docs and spreadsheets and other similar small size/highly critical files to cloud storage.

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    Cpl Cam says:

    Yeah, that was pretty good but the “chuck dupree” obamacare horror story is the funniest thing I’ve seen this year.

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    Hungry Joe says:

    Two little Hitlers will fight it out until / one little Hitler does the other one’s will.

    Not sure how it applies, exactly, but with all the Hitler talk going on I’ve really been wanting to throw in that line.

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    jl says:

    @AnonPhenom: We don’t know what information goes into King’s head. But I am open to a tidal explanation of what goes on inside his head.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    I saw American Hustle today, and I was deeply impressed. From the feet up, it’s the sharpest, funniest crime movie I’ve seen in quite a while. And the tackiest, most-1970s looking one too. Especially with that gigantic black wig on Jeremy Renner, and Christian Bale’s Bobby Charlton-inspired comb-over. (Amy Adams’ plunging necklines — meh. If you’ve seen one cleavage, you’ve pretty much seen them all.)

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    The people who are crushing on Vlad are not going to vote for Hillary, any way. What the hell is she thinking?

    @schrodinger’s cat: That the race to be the official bearer of America’s Giant #1 Foam Finger starts now, and she is right about that.

    I hope she learned something last time out. She put on one of the worst campaigns I’ve ever seen, and I include the Republican Debacle of 2012 in that.

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    Belafon says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: Maybe she thinks there are comparisons between Putin and Hitler?

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    Suffern ACE says:

    @Amir Khalid: In the 70’s you had those mini curlers in your hair at night. I guess it was less damaging to one’s hair than the chemicals used to make a perm.

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    Tommy says:

    Colbert is amazing. When gay folks get hit with a fire hose they love it.

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    Tommy says:

    @Amir Khalid: I have to admit I wasn’t a fan. I thought the movie sucked. I might come back to it and fined myself liking it. But well, that is a hopeful thing.

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    Comrade Mary says:

    @kdaug: #holyshitimold

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    ruemara says:

    Should I send my shots of Pride Parade?

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    ruemara says:

    @Trollhattan: I have near a T + .5 in designs, software backups and the largest is footage, photos, animations. But, the issue is— homeless in about 5 months.

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    LanceThruster says:

    Rep. King needs a “Boot to the head!”

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Suffern ACE:
    I know, I saw them on my own mum back in the day. Them curlers must have made it uncomfortable to turn your head while you were in bed. The men’s hairstyles haven’t aged well either. And the clothes — ye gods, they were ugly!

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    chopper says:


    the great thing is, if homosexuality is merely ‘self-professed behaviour’ than so is being straight.

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    raven says:

    @Suffern ACE: I didn’t I let my freak flag fly!

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    spudgun says:

    Okay, this made the side of me that’s perpetually stuck in 2nd grade LOL:

    “Reid sees GOP as ‘addicted to Koch'”

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    WereBear says:

    @c u n d gulag: Agnostic and Atheist waiters can decline to serve church/mosque/temple/etc, groups, out for a Sunday brunch after their services.

    NO server wants the holier-than-thou, fresh-from-church, cheapa$$ “Christian” crowd.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @ruemara: I can only imagine how much it sucks not to know what’s ahead, but I’m not sure anything good can come from planning on being homeless. I am hoping something works out.

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    Suffern ACE says:

    @Amir Khalid: I’m hoping that when the bonus DVD set of the movie comes out, the “Deleted Scenes” include the conclusion of Louis CK’s story, so we can finally find out what happened to his brother on the cold night in Michigan on the lake.

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    I would strongly recommend against trying to use bluray as a backup medium. The disks are still rather expensive, to the point that they wouldn’t save you a lot of money compared to backing up onto an external hard drive. Meanwhile, the external hard drive is massively more convenient to work with, since you can easily do incremental backups.

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    LanceThruster says:

    I wonder if he’ll get any goatse?

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    I’d go with RAID.

    RAID and backups deal with different but overlapping problems. RAID is great for preventing a hard drive failure from killing your data, but it won’t help if you’re hit by malware, data corruption, accidental file deletion, or a disaster that destroys your computer. Backups are more of a pain and can’t protect your most recent data, but they protect better against problems with your whole computer system. I use both, including an off-site backup so that even a disaster that destroys my home won’t take out my most important data.

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    David Koch says:

    Former secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton on Tuesday compared Russian President Vladimir Putin’s aggression in Ukraine to actions taken by Nazi leader Adolf Hitler outside Germany in the run-up to World War II.

    Oy vey.

    This is why it’s so hard to have any enthusiasm of Hillary. A day after we all mocked the neo-cons for going Godwin, Hillary jumps in and panders to the loony crowd who will never stop hating, giving them a club they can use to mug her with.

    And true enough, McCain thanked her for goin Godwin, and then proceeded to rip her, saying it’s her fault for being weak in the face of Putin.

    “The whole administration deserves blame, everybody, for the weakness and total misperception of the nature of Vladimir Putin. And pushing the reset button is certainly a graphic demonstration of that,”

    Well done, Hillary. Now they can say, even the liburel Hillary Clinton agrees with us.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @LanceThruster: No way in hell will I click that.

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    Anoniminous says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    She is doing what the majority of Democrats have done for years: pandering to those who will never, ever, vote for her simultaneously driving away persuadables.

    Too many political scientists on her staff.

    (HEY! Omnes Omnibus …. :-p)

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    Suffern ACE says:

    @David Koch: what would McCain do with Russia if he had it anyway? I know he want war with them, but what would he do with them even if we won and our cities weren’t smoldering ruins? Does he just get up in the morning all sad that he hasn’t killed a russian recently?

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @David Koch:
    Her comparison of Hitler’s half-assed justification for invading other countries to Putin’s doesn’t actually strike me as wrong, though. And Republicans are always going to attack Democrats for “weakness” of one kind or another. It’s up to Hillary how she wants to respond in this case. She can either ignore McCain like everyone should, or she can point out out that he and his party are not advocating any well-considered policy.

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    jl says:

    @Suffern ACE: McCain wants war with a lot of people.

    If Hillary said she looked deeply into Putin’s eyes and saw his soul, then there would be a different line of attack, which would produce more interesting punchlines and snark.

    Anytime the GOP trots out this nonsense, you need to have GW’s eye-gazing and deep soul-reading experience with Putin handy for a rebuttal.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Via valued commenter OzarkHillbilly,

    Oooooohhh, I am now “valued”… Instead of three pence I am now worth a shilling. All I can say is, “Your Welcome, your welcome. At your service, always willing to provide superior service to those in need.”

    Or as my wife likes to say, Humility is my middle name.

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    Did anyone else notice that the “NewsMax” link “What Democrats Did in Virginia’s Special Elections Should Worry GOP” actually takes you to HuffPost instead?

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    McCain wants war with a lot of people.

    Shorterer. He does not appear to be terribly picky about who we’re at war with, so long as we’re blowing people up.

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    Hal says:

    First day of Lent and I’ve already had a co-worker tell me I should not be eating chicken wings for lunch. Um, let’s see; I’m not catholic, I don’t care, and oh, how about you mind your own damn business. Every time this year some people think it’s ok to chastise everyone around them while they smear ashes on their foreheads and give up snickers bars for a week. Almost the same as being nailed to the cross. Almost.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: You can inspect the URL.

    I’m old enough to remember when goatse was actually a thing.

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    LanceThruster says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Generally wise but it’s merely the Wiki entry. I’m not that mean.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Gin & Tonic: I am not taking any chances.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    LanceThruster’s link goes to a Wikipedia article, as he says. So it’s safe.

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    jl says:

    Wonder why none of the neocons and war fans bring up the Georgian war.

    What Putin did in Crimea is bad, but if he has staged a violent military attack on a putative ally of ours yet in this crisis, I seem to have missed it. And if the U.S. is sitting around and doing jack squat about Russia staging a violent military attack on a putative ally of ours except saber rattling and talking big, I haven’t read about it.

    But of course, since GW Bush was in charge, the Georgian war went just peachy. That was a text book example of a firm resolute responsible thing to do in the case of a murky border conflict between Russia and an ally. Arm up a little country, build up a delusional tin pot Napoleon leader with thuggish authoritiarian impulses (since you always want a contrast with the Bad Guy). Then maybe allow (or maybe encourage?) him to try to solve the border problem by bombing Russia. Then do not much of anything when the tin pot Napoleon ally gets attacked (which may have been a direct response to a Georgian bombing campaign… what exactly happened is very murky, I think)

    Oh, yeah, IIRC one of McCain’s foreign policy campaign advisers was involved.

    Those were good times, eh?

    Edit: Oh, yeah, in surprise move, McCain was so deeply moved by the stirring events, he tried to hog the front and center and call for war. Never would see that coming, huh?

    Well, we were all Georgians, then, according to McCain. But the weak Bush II would not lead us to war, thank goodness.

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    Violet says:

    @Hal: What the hell? What business is it of your co-workers what you eat for lunch? Annoying busybodies.

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    jl says:


    ” First day of Lent and I’ve already had a co-worker tell me I should not be eating chicken wings for lunch. ”

    You don’t respect other people’s religious liberty?

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    raven says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: You’re my horse if you never win a race.

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    Gene108 says:


    I think she makes a valid point. Just because ethnic Russians live in Ukraine, or ethnic Koreans live in China or Japan, it does not mean Russia, Korea, etc are justified in invading a country to “defend” their ethnic group.

    It was a bogus argument, when Hitler used it to gain control of Austria and the Sudentanland and it is a bogus argument today.

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    StringOnAStick says:

    @Hal: I went to my dentist today, only to discover she’s added a new DDS to the practice, along with all her associated new staff members. One of the things I like about my dentist is she’s great at it, and she is one of very few liberal dentists out there (it tends to be a very conservative profession).

    I found myself staring at the new (to me anyway) front desk person with the ash cross on her forehead, and all I could think of was “wow, she sure likes to advertise her personal holiness”. Seems like spiritual bragging to me, and I bet my liberal dentist is thinking WTF too. I can honestly say I have never seen the ash-mark thing in person before; is it new pope fanboi stuff, increased in-your-face conservative Catholicism, or limited experience on my part?

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    StringOnAStick says:

    @Hal: I went to my dentist today, only to discover she’s added a new DDS to the practice, along with all her associated new staff members. One of the things I like about my dentist is she’s great at it, and she is one of very few liberal dentists out there (it tends to be a very conservative profession).

    I found myself staring at the new (to me anyway) front desk person with the ash cross on her forehead, and all I could think of was “wow, she sure likes to advertise her personal holiness”. Seems like spiritual bragging to me, and I bet my liberal dentist is thinking WTF too. I can honestly say I have never seen the ash-mark thing in person before; is it new pope fanboi stuff, increased in-your-face conservative Catholicism, or limited experience on my part?

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    raven says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Hey, did you hear about this young woman that was killed making a Greg Allman biopic here in Georgia? It looks like the filmmakers are in deep shit.

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    Gene108 says:


    HRC ran a bad campaign but came in a very competitive second place.

    It took nearly all the primaries to decide the 2008 Democratic nominee.

    Imagine what she could do with a good campaign staff?

    Also, I think HRC needs to be the first woman President. There are still many fragile male egos that cannot tolerate a woman having a more successful career than her husband. I do not see this dissipating any time soon.

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    Gene108 says:


    I think more than her campaign was the Iraq war vote versus Obama not supporting it that was a deciding factor.

    Though who knows how Obama would have voted, if he was in the US Senate at the time. He has been more concervative on security matters, since stepping onto the national stage.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    I can honestly say I have never seen the ash-mark thing in person before; is it new pope fanboi stuff, increased in-your-face conservative Catholicism, or limited experience on my part?

    Limited experience or, more likely, your city/town not being very Catholic. When I lived in the Chicago area (admittedly, 20+ years ago), it was a pretty common sight. It was common in college in Los Angeles, too, and USC is not a Catholic school.

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    Hal says:

    @StringOnAStick: I grew up in upstate NY and saw it a lot as a kid. I lived in San Francisco for years and saw it once in awhile, but many of my neighbors and co-workers were Filipino. I’ve always assumed any area with large numbers of Catholics have people doing the ash Wednesday business.

    One year a coworker of mine came back from services in the chapel at the hospital we worked at, and I joking said to her; “you’ve got something on your forehead.” She proceeded to smear the ash all over her forehead and I had to tell her to stop, I was kidding, Ash Wednesday remember? She was not amused.

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    Hill Dweller says:

    @Gene108: It took all the primaries because Hillary refused to concede, despite having no real path to victory.

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    ruemara says:

    @raven: Not surprised. They did everything wrong that you could. Some people don’t value the crew’s safety at all.

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    MattR says:

    @StringOnAStick: I think it is just you. I can’t remember what it was like in the Jewish neighborhood I grew up in (I seem to recall some students and teachers with the ash cross), but I definitely used to see people with the ash cross all the time (well, every year) when I lived in NYC. The tricky part was remembering what day it was before telling them they had shmutz on their forehead.

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    Baud says:


    Oooooohhh, I am now “valued

    Congratulations! I’ve been stuck at “barely tolerated commenter Baud” for what seems like forever.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    My late grandmothers would be scandalized to hear that it didn’t even occur to me that it was Ash Wednesday, even though I was fully aware of Mardi Gras all day yesterday. It’s got me thinking of last year, or was it two years ago, when all the professional Beltway Catholics, including those of MSNBC, went on TV with their foreheads ostentatiously smeared to underscore their Disappointment in Obama for forcing nuns to subsidize all that dirty non-procreative sex. I remember whackadoo Melinda Henninberger wearing the biggest, blackest smear I’d ever seen, reminding me of nothing so much as a whited sepulchres. Tweety’s brow is as clear as day. I wonder if Lawrence O’Donnell will wave off his make up people tonight.

    ETA: I vaguely remember there were rules about not washing the ashes off, but I can’t remember what it was.

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    @Baud: FWIW I value your pithy commentary.

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    Baud says:


    He has been more concervative on security matters, since stepping onto the national stage.

    More conservative than voting for a war of choice based on false pretenses? Do tell.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Baud: No false modesty, please!

    Edit: you know we love you.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    It’s one of the reasons some filmmakers do location shoots — they’re under less scrutiny and can cut corners. Unfortunately, when they do that, people can end up dead.

    G went to film school and was told, many times, that there was no movie on earth worth dying for or killing someone. Ever.

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    JPL says:

    @StringOnAStick: It is pretty common and in fact there are probably gay folks with ashes. Steve King would probably faint if he saw pictures of gays with ashes. Hopefully, he’ll receive a few next week.

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    Also, I think HRC needs to be the first woman President. There are still many fragile male egos that cannot tolerate a woman having a more successful career than her husband.

    I’ve said it before: the solution to this is Tammy Baldwin. No husband = no husband’s accomplishments to worry about outshining.

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    NotMax says:


    Can certainly think of some movies where it could have been worth it to maim some people afterwards.

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    ruemara says:

    @NotMax: movie 43.

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    Baud says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: @WaterGirl:

    I don’t know what to say. ::wipes away tear::

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    David Koch says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Stephen Colbert is a big Catholic and one year he made fun of people wearing ashes.

    That said, it’s kinda weird how someone as smart as Stephen believes in invisible supernatural beings.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Not the same as a crew member who drives his car into a tree on his way home because he’d worked 19 hours that day. Haskell Wexler did a documentary about it.

    When people wonder why Hollywood is still a union town, it’s because of shit like this — directors and producers are perfectly willing to kill people in order to save a few bucks or get the “right” look.

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    Elizabelle says:


    I did see that. RIP Sarah Jones.

    You deserved management as professional as you were.

    ETA: The horror of the whole situation. Not even 60 seconds to respond, and your escape route is running towards a speeding locomotive that didn’t expect to see you on the track.

    I hope Randall Miller never gets near a movie set again. Ever.

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    Felanius Kootea says:

    @ruemara: I use a drobo (I finally got one after I lost two different backup drives due to device failure) and swear by it. It mimics RAID, the costs are not trivial, but after replacing those failed backup drives, I realized it was worth it to me.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Suffern ACE:
    If you’re curious, you can go to the movie’s IMDB entry and click on Trivia. There’s an item about the ice-fishing story and how it ends.

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    Gene108 says:


    He did vote in favor of granting TelCo’s some sort of immunity for the NSA warrant less wire tapping, IIRC.

    Liberals wanted them to have legal liabilities.

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    Suffern ACE says:

    @Gene108: yeah, but it’s fairly standard as far as excuses go. I think we need to separate the protests from the ouster or coup, however you want to define it. I think Russia was right strategically to prevent that coup from taking hold in the Crimea by preventing representatives from the new interim government from taking up positions. I think the Ukranians blundered into this situation. And I do think Russia should be very wary of the magnanimous intentions of Western Europeans there. He definitely is in a better negotiating position at the moment. Yeah, protecting Russians is a generic pretext. But he’s not going to let the EU come in and create another pro-west state without some major concessions.

    In his press conference he basically said that any agreements he had with the old pre-revolutionary government might not be in force, since they were made with a government that no longer exists. I think that was a shot at the West, which had an agreement with Gorbachev that if he dissolved the Warsaw Pact, they wouldn’t add those former members to NATO. And then ten years later, they were signing them up willy nilly under the fairly bogus claim that since the Soviet Union didn’t exist, those agreements were null and void anyway.

    He’s not going to let that happen again. My guess is he’ll stay in UKraine until the west puts it in writing that Ukraine will never be in the EU or NATO. The west can have Ukraine’s weak economy if they want, but they are going to have to convince Putin that that is all they want.

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    NotMax says:

    re: Ash Wednesday

    Don’t know how widespread it may have been, but most non-Catholic kids in town knew to avoid walking past the very large Catholic school that day, being careful to use the sidewalk on the other side of the street if they had to pass that way.


    Because groups of kids would rush out of the cast-iron barred gates to tackle a non-Catholic kid, hold him (they only did this to boys) on the ground and smear his forehead with dirt. Jewish kids received the added bonus of being called Christ-killers and having the dirt mixed with spit.

    All while the nuns stayed inside the fence, watching and nodding approvingly.

    Not long after John XXIII became pope, this ‘tradition’ abruptly ended.

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    barbequebob says:


    I’m thinking you’ve never lived in an area where there are a lot of Catholics. The rubbing of ashes on the forehead is what puts the ash in ash wednesday. It was common practice 40+ years ago in my neighborhood in Queens NY, when I was being raised Catholic. Everywhere youwet, there were people with ashes on thir foreheads.

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    WaterGirl says:


    I don’t know what to say.

    That’ll be a first! :-)

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    tybee says:

    @Roger Moore:

    we have a winner.

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    Howard Beale IV says:

    @MikeJ: Unless its RAID 6, forget it.

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    mclaren says:

    The Obama administration has just opened a new front in its ongoing war on whistleblowers. It’s taking its case against one man, former Transportation Security Administration (TSA) Air Marshal Robert MacLean, all the way to the Supreme Court. So hold on, because we’re going back down the rabbit hole with the Most Transparent Administration ever.

    Despite all the talk by Washington insiders about how whistleblowers like Edward Snowden should work through the system rather than bring their concerns directly into the public sphere, MacLean is living proof of the hell of trying to do so. Through the Supreme Court, the Department of Justice (DOJ) wants to use MacLean’s case to further limit what kinds of information can qualify for statutory whistleblowing protections. If the DOJ gets its way, only information that the government thinks is appropriate — a contradiction in terms when it comes to whistleblowing — could be revealed. Such a restriction would gut the legal protections of the Whistleblower Protection Act and have a chilling effect on future acts of conscience.

    Having lost its case against MacLean in the lower courts, the DOJ is seeking to win in front of the Supreme Court. If heard by the Supremes — and there’s no guarantee of that — this would represent that body’s first federal whistleblower case of the post-9/11 era. And if it were to rule for the government, even more information about an out-of-control executive branch will disappear under the dark umbrella of “national security.”

    Source: “Silencing Whistleblowers, Obama-Style,” Tomdispatch, 4 March 2014.

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    GHayduke (formerly lojasmo) says:


    Oh no! An alleged lawbreaker having to wend his way through the court system? TYRANY!

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    StringOnAStick says:

    @barbequebob: Yep, it has to be because I have always lived in Colorado, which is (or at least was when I was younger) mostly protestant. I think the first time I ever saw the ashes thing was via Stephen Colbert and if I hadn’t seen that I would have been completely clueless. I have an older fundy sister who considers any pope to be the anti-Christ, though that role has been getting crowed as of late what with a near president and all that.

    I really feel for the poor woman who lost her life on the movie set; I have no doubt she was doing what she was told so she could be seen as a team player in a male dominated field. You do the dangerous thing because your current job and career depend on it; been there, didn’t like doing it but felt I had no choice.

    Live train tracks are scary; my first career was as a geologist, and on one assignment we had to walk through active train tunnels in a very, very steep canyon in Northern CA. It was the boss who insisted we do it, the prick. We were told to listen real hard first and then make it snappy; some of those tunnels were too long for such a stupid tactic but we did it anyway to avoid his considerable wrath. At the end of the week, we had just exited a tunnel when a railroad worker drove up behind us in one of those pick-ups with rail wheels. I didn’t hear his vehicle and when he called to us I about jumped off the tracks to the water 200 feet below. It became clear then that the “listen real hard first” tactic was a crock of shit from our over-compensating 5′ 5″ tough guy boss.

    It really hadn’t hit me until this sad story about the camera assistant that this was yet another in my list of how I almost died while working as a geologist (or almost got raped and then murdered). That canyon had plenty of wrecked freight cars at the bottom of it; as long as they weren’t visible to the public, they just left them. What really gets me though was all this ‘risk for science’ produced some conclusions from Lil’ prick bossman that were so lame and rote that I almost felt sorry for the client.

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    LAC says:

    @jl: I am picturing an emaciated hamster leaning on the wheel while a dirty lightbulb flickers dimly

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    LAC says:

    @mclaren: oh goody. More ranting from you. Brings a new meaning to March Madness” I bet when Putin takes his shirt off, you see word “freedom” etched in his chest. Thank god Snowbunny is safe

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    Mezz (fpa Michael2) says:

    I don’t care how brilliant or insightful Colbert or Stewart are – can you posters PLEASE STOP EMBEDDING THESE CLIPS. Jesus tap dancing Christ provide a link – the autoplay on every page makes me stop coming here for days b/c it is so god damn annoying. It doesn’t seem that difficult a challenge to achieve. Good grief.

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